What if Jet Fighters Never Existed?
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2023
- Today, we explore an alternate history timeline: What if Jet Fighters Never Existed? Or more accurately, what if turboprops were chosen instead of afterburning turbojets? At the time, they were more efficient and accelerated quicker, so it could have been a feasible decision.
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This is such a cool idea, you should totally make this a series
Super pretty please a series would be crazy cool
Yes, yes you should
Yes, yes he should*
Series? Guys this could be an entire aviation genre. Like steampunk or dieselpunk.
@@marrqi7wini54Proppunk! The more descriptive Turboproppunk or Propfanpunk don’t roll off the tongue well at all.
I want to see a MiG-21 recreated with this type of turboprop arrangement. I think it would look hilariously cursed
What about a f14 with turbo prop. I tried that on simpleplanes and it didn't work well lol. Mostly cause I wad trying to make a it ww1/early ww2 themed with wing sweep so yeah..
Do 335 noises
I did a turboprop f-14 in KSP once and it worked surprisingly well
Appearance wise, it reminds me of the SNCASO SO.8000 Narval. A French piston plane. But it had the same general layout, with even the counter rotating props. I really like the look of that aeroplane. And I quite like the look of this one too.
That’s what I was thinking too! The resemblance is uncanny! Love the design ofc
This has a pretty cool design philosophy behind it. I could see it being made in an alternate version of real life where jet engines just didn't work right. It also has a really striking silhouette.
You're my absolute favorite niche-interest youtuber at the moment - The quality of your voiceover combined with the meditative build of the craft is an excellent combo. Keep doing your thing ❤
its goofy but its the perfect kind of goofy that allows for some brilliant ideas and designs that can be truly memorable - a series would be great
Love the alt history series idea! Maybe companies with varying design doctrines like focusing on heavier planes, faster planes or manuverable planes for dogfighting?
Definitely want this as a series. I know flyout doesn't have this capability yet, but what if helicopters were developed before fixed wing aircraft?
Flyout added helicopters last update! It'd be possible
i'm a huge fan of creating alternate worlds. if you decide to proceed with that idea, you've got my whole attention there. hell, i might join later to the party
Great idea for a series! You could do this as well for classes. Modern heavy fighters, hydroplanes and flying fortress type bombers.
We can not only make this a series but an entire aviation genre.
You should really make this a series it would be so fun
I love it! It's like a modernized SO.8000, would be nice to see more
I absolutely love alternate history / lore serieses with this kind of stuff! As a dungeon and dragons DM, this kind of story telling is the backbone of so many of my campaigns. Seeing something like this, where certain countries have their own design principles and schools of thought, naming conventions, and aircraft development where jet engines never really caught on would be simply incredible. Very much so hoping that idea comes to fruition!
Like just thinking about the repercussions of that, I imagine IR based sensors and weapons would be less useful given the colder visible operating temperatures and Radar / TV based sensor suites would be much more prevalent.
definitely interested in seeing this as a series, always preferred the late WW2 and early cold war era aircraft.
EDIT: regarding the ejection seat, I don't think it would be unlikely that even at its size the aircraft could have an ejection seat, the He-162 had an early ejection seat and that was very small, and the Do-335 had even great issues with tail and prop placement (solved by the same method as you, Explosives in both the rear prop hub and vertical stabilizer that blew them clear)
I absolutely feel the same about turbo props being interesting and would make a fun fictional niche. Really wanna see it in gaming.
Yes! I would love to see this turn into a series!
Such a cool dieselpunk concept! Definitely please do more about it.
That introduction scene of the plane looks like a War Thunder trailer. Beautiful work as always! Keep it up, I love your content!
Would love to see all the potential layouts for 'modern' prop fighters.
Have you ever thought about making a video about what you think air travel will be like in the future. I would like to see your take on a futuristic airliner.
hyped by this concept and the possibility of a serie
You sir, are everything I love. Alternate History, space, storytelling and hypothetical technology. I WANT IT ALL ! ! ! Keep making content good sir. Also Messier 82 is a pretty galaxy I agree :-)
awesome video! cant wait to see how aircraft will develop without jet engines
Love the series idea. Something like a jet/rocket powered P38 would be cool.
Yeah this is really cool please make this a series, seeing multiple countries, all with unique designs would be amazing
great vid btw
Talking about fictional company lore sounds awesome. I like reading wikipedia etc about all the company and political reasons behind, say, the MiG-15 and its engine. It would be so fun to have a fictional aerospace company that doesn't just develop aircraft, but has a whole universe of politics and shenanigans to go along with it.
I think that Rotodyne style aircraft would be a very interesting concept for this alternate history series
I think this is a sick concept I love it, and can not wait to see what your amazing mind can come up with. Keep up the good work :D
I love alternate history. I think it would be pretty cool to see how different technologies such as stealth (ducted fan shroud around props?!??), supersonics and ARAAMs work out with different these design philosophies.
This was a pretty cool idea and honestly I would like to see you develop the world further
I gotta say that’s a pretty sweet looking design, really works strangely well with the loads of weapons on it
I love this idea, you should make a series of it imo
Gotta say this is probably my favorite looking plane you’ve made
Great Channel! I found you a couple of days ago and watched all your videos. Your builds and testings are very nice and entertaining. Keep it up!
This is my new favorite video, the idea and concept is amazing, I guess great minds think by of arguments(of alternated histories)! This was an amazing plane by far as it looks like a P-50* (if I didn't forget the name and mistake a plane*) The video was entertaining! Nice work!
I love the idea of an alt series. This aircraft reminds me a little bit of the A1 Skyraider. Keep up the great content mate, can't wait for more.
Would love to see reimagined jet fighters, with their jets replaced with turbo props, but the same basic frame and fuselage
This is interesting. Even just modding 1940"s -1950's era warbirds, you have a lot of material to play with.
really cool to see your channel growing.
This guy explains so good and yet only has 11k subs he deserves more
This would be an incredibly entertaining and creative series. Definitely continue with this.
I think this creates an alternate reality where rocket fighters also likely exist. We might even see a Bell XF-1 or something. Turboprops have serious difficulty getting close to the speed of sound and actually exceeding it becomes wildly inefficient. Yet at moderate speeds they can loiter much longer than rocket-powered aircraft. There might even be hypersonic glide interceptors.
I didn’t expect your account to post so many videos when I first subscribed, but I’m enjoying them all👍
I'd love to see this as a longer series!
100% I’d binge this series. Please do it!!!
One concept that could be interesting for this universe is the development of Moto-jets, where the compression and turbine flow is powered by a piston engine, this in this universe could produce a 'jet' aircraft as the sort of inbetween for conventional jets as they become a new technology, perhaps they could just never develop a good compressor and so thats why no one ever made good jets, so a piston engine allowed them better rotation and compression, and so the heavier twin design became somewhat common, I could also see the planes shutting off their props and engaging rocket boosters to intercept and then switching back on the props for engagement, making multi engine designs common in the setting.
The combos and ideas could be limitless, im loving this.
That sounds like an awesome idea for a series!
This would make an amazing series
just found your channel today if you dont make this a series ill never be back. In all seriousness though amazing videos keep up the good work (and please make this a series)
Please do more videos like this! Side note, the plane looks a lot like one I drew a while back, its cool to see something like it in 3D!
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!
This is an awesome idea, and I'm all the way down for this being a series.
holy shit this was amazingly good to watch, i really hope to see more of this
This is basically why I want this game. please continue this as a series
i know its a semi old vid rn, but id love to see this as a series, seems like a really cool idea!!
Please never stop with the rambling voice overs Messier. They make the videos informative and are just as enjoyable as the builds (for me at least)
Absolutely love the upload schedule. Flyout is great!
I love the alt history stuff! Can't wait to see what you come up with next
Nice video idea! It'll be amazing to explore the "possible" tech trees in our world lol
There were a few turbo props which could go super fast. Though I remember one was so loud that it would cause ground crews to vomit because the tips of the propellers would break the sound barrier so it was like a constant none stop sonic boom.
Yes, the thundershriek. The torque of the turbine engines was so strong that it was pitching to the left constantly, as the plane essentially attempted to rotate around the driveshaft. Loudest plane in history.
I wonder if they could have used the deafening loudness as a weapon? If it had such awful effects on people to begin with, surely it could have been made to be even louder and more powerful. Imagine a collection of enemy soldiers being suddenly buzzed by 3 or 4 of these things at once.
This thing is sick! Love it!
I'd love this as a series, it was a great watch!
Please make this a series, love this stuff :)
This might be my massive SAAB bias but this looks a lot like the SAAB 21 but with a Prop-Fan. Absolutely love it, reminds me of some of the CAPSTONE projects i see from the Aero track seniors at my school.
It kind of resembles a De Havilland Vampire/Venom, but with a turboprop engine. I like it.
Anything you do is epic and i will watch! Love it 😼
Really like the idea of following a series on your channel
I love in depth alternative history and I can't wait to see more of this series
I’d love to see an interpretation of a high speed biplane in this style
Why not the complete inverse, a jet powered biplane? (Monoplanes never being invented)
@@enderjed2523 I love it
@@levidotson6610 If the Fairey Swordfish could do ridiculous things with a 690hp piston engine, imagine what it could pull off with a jet strapped to it.
@@enderjed2523it would really need some pretty strong wings and then again it would limit the speed greatly but I would love to see something like that
I love this. Can't wait to see the next one!
I love Thai concept, and would absolutely love to see this turn into a series
Would love to see a stealth bomber in this style
Really enjoyed this! Now you gotta make a supersonic one!
i absolutly love that you almost build the mwari from paramount group, you have the same mind as their engineers, nice
I love this channel and ive always wanted to see a more modern prop fighter concept ❤👍
This is almost exactly like a scenario I have for a world I'm building.
I hope to see more of it.
This is really cool. I always wante to see how late WW2 superprops with more modern sensors and armament.
Please, turn this into a series
Ideas like this are why I want this game. I just wanna make a bunch of cool (float)planes.
He always makes great vids
This turboprop timeline looks very interesting. It's basically mechanical speculative evolution and I'm all here for it. What I'm especially interested to see would be this alt-hist world's version of the XF-84H Thunderscreech and a 5th gen fighter turboprop equivalent.
I love these videos!!!
I really want to get my hands on Fly Out to try out ideas and create designs that never made it off the drawing board or what-might-have-been.
I'm looking forward to seeing multiplayer matches where you could have air racers or dog fighters that has one rule you must use a fictional design or you designed it yourself.
Now that would be interesting!
Pls make this a series it is super interesteting
loved the video idea!
guess whos back back again jimmys back tell a friend lol great vid as always 👍👍
I am a sucker for alt history, especially alt history aviation. Crimson skies was my first introduction to video games after all.
Oh don't be silly, we absolutely adore your rants about stuff while the timelapse is playing. On that note, dunno what editing software you're using, but you could record the audio before you make the timelapse so that you can talk about whatever you want to.
PS: please consider making a BSG Raider, I want to see what that flying horseshoe can do.
This is a very good idea, you should definitely make this into a seiries
I enjoyed the rambling you do
Yes!! Yes!!!! Love your videos
Pls do more alternate history its sooooo good i have been trying to find alternate military stuff for a long time now and there is either nothing or shit i will literally cry happy tears if u do more alt history pls😭😭😭
These explanations are phenomenal
Nice ideas, would you later create a Light fighter with the Fuselage of a F-104 with the extended wings of a F-5, the engine of a f-15, the lerx of a mig-29 and the tail and stabilizers of a f-4? Thanks for appreciating my arts BTW.
I love the idea of alt history/alternate power aircraft also can you make helicopters in flyout?
Maybe make a super YB-35? Way bigger and faster, with stealth capabilities
Can you try to make a vtol plane in flyout? Also I really do like the theoretic plane video idea, you should definitely continue making videos like this.
reminds me of the anime 'sky crawlers'. i dont remember ever seeing any jet aircraft in that show (though i could be wrong) and you mentioning companies brought that right back.
would love a series of this
This is cool, awesome looking plane, as I do not have Flyout, I was wondering if you'd take the German Dornier Do 335 Pfeil (Arrow), put turbo props front and rear, and modernize it a little while maintaining it so that one can still see it's clearly a Do 335. Thanks
this plane is gorgeous, kinda feels like a sea venom but ive always loved the look of props over fans