To make the sister killing worse, they were fighting khornate daemons, and decided that the best way to fight them off was to murder the holy and bathe in their blood
"Sir Kronkius, everything has gone Terminal, it's time to enact the Decree!" "Ah yes, the Decree, the Decree for Terminus time, a Decree specifically made to be enacted when everything is at Terminal level, Terminus Decree." ... "THAT Decree?" "YES THAT DECREE!"
Just realized, Guilliman was being killed by a cursed Slaanesh blade when he was put in stasis, which means odds are if he died he would be taken by Slaanesh. The Yinari used Guilliman as a test run for getting souls back from Slaanesh
And maybe they will link up with the jester aelderi, the harlequins, and perform the final act and steal back the souls. Would be interesting how they write that out
@@kumaking5519 I'd be down for a full 40k lore reset if this happens. Forget about a few revamped aspect warriors, lets just axe the whole shebang. Find a way to make every firstborn marine perish in the process, including their dogshit gear.
@wolvie90 I mean realistically lore wise most space marines only last a few hundred years. All new marines are primarius. I seem to recall some space marine in the dark imperium book thinking about how most first born are becoming primarius and those who don't will all die out soon. There still in the tabletop, but actual lorewise they've already become very rare. And it'll be a miracle to see a first born after like 500years. They dont have to change the lore at all the get rid of first borns. They're already going exotic
My theory on the Terminus Decree: It's the suicide ritual that created the Emperor. The intention in case Terra falls and the Emperor is no longer on the golden throne, ALL grey knights enact this ritual to form a NEW emperor like entity, but very different, instead of shamans and what not, it's all hyper-militant grey knights.
I was literally thinking this same thing. Something like "the psyker's guide to ritual suicide". Or a guide on how to steal power from the chaos gods like (supposedly) on Moloch
@kalyambamhango4548 the power wasn't stolen I think. It was won. Some think it also might have been a contract. They teach him how to make Primarchs but they get half of them
that or an alpha legion guy trying to fulfil their long term plan, no one wins. they were given two bad future, one with dead horus and one with dead emps. i'm thinking they decided fuck option three: they both die and someone else leads humanity to the future.
@@thewerdnaand afterwards when the Lion asked Corswain “Where is your sword?”, he responds with one of the biggest chad quotes of “Forgive me my Lord, I left it in a Primarch’s spine”.
@@ShadowGhost0117 yep. Which is why, being such a gigachad, I can buy him also being able to kill Custodes. Plus all evidence points to him being Cypher since last we saw, Corswain was fighting Zahariel, the previous known person to hold the title of Cypher. We don't know who won that fight yet, but since Zahariel was a psyker and chaos corrupted, while current Cypher is niether, all evidence points to Corswain winning the fight and taking the title of Cypher
The Terminus Decree is actually a note that says "Can I offer you a tangerine in these end times?" next to what presumably once was a tangerine, 12k years expired
It's literally an "If I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me!" button. Holy shit, if that's actually what the Terminus Decree is then I have a new found respect for Big E, I had a hard time convincing myself that he was human, but that would be the most human thing of all. Only we are THAT spiteful.
24:36 If I remember correctly the Astronomicon predated the Great Crusade, and was originally seperate from the golden throne, and yes, Big E could guide the astronomicon remotely. The Golden Throne was created to oversee and form the hear of the Emperor's webway project, which was to replace the Astronomicon, and when completed required a powerful psyker to operate it, who was to be Magnus. The life support systems would allow Magnus to continue to live on the throne, but his soul would be fully able to travel and explore the warp. The problem was Magnus's attempt to warn the Emperor about Horus caused damage to both the Astronomicon and the Golden Throne, and more to the point tore a fucking hole between the webway and the warp, allowing demons to enter. The Emperor needs to stay on the Throne both to take advantage of the life support and to hold the Warp tear created by that shut so that Terra isn't consumed by the Warp, while also guiding the damaged astronomicon.
@@HistoritorJimaldus I mean, SOMEONE had to make it first anyway. Also, I think Emps found it *somewhere* and retrofitted and modified it heavily to fit into the astronomican, so you could say that both Found and Made are fitting here
@@Lets_Go_UW It's definitely some crazy Dark Age tech. It's got enough in common with some of the higher end Eldar tech that some of the more technically inclined Dark Eldar are occasionally persuaded to assist in repairs and maintenance to the psychic bits that the AdMech guys can't deal with, but even they don't know where the fuck this thing came from or what its original purpose was. The only thing we really know about it is that it is a powerful enough psychic focus that it would allow an alpha-plus level psyker to brute-force create their own Webway, something even the Old Ones couldn't do, but that the Emperor had to modify it quite a lot in order to do only that and not fulfill its original function.
@@BrotherVoidBomberHe wouldn't be a Chaos god, as his existence is the polar opposite of them. He would become a Warp deity of his own, probably one that personifies absolute Order or even, if him being the anatema of Chaos means being an entity who opposes the Warp itself, a god akin to Gork and Mork, AKA a god independent of the Warp with its own rules
Nah, I think that's unrelated. As getting the true name of the Emperor to save hunanity is the goal of the Yellow King. Who is that you may ask? (Spoilers bellow for the Eisenhorn books) The Yellow King is a mysterious figure opposed to an the Inquisition. He lives in a pocket dimension of the warp. He has an army of winged blood angels, genetically engineered blanks, and emperor-aligned anti-demon possesed (human souls placed in demon warp bodies). There is a book that is found revealing the name of the Yellow King. A name that is the entire contents of the book, because the name is that long. The first two words in that book, the first two words of the name are... Constantine Valdor
Which would explain why its a final last ditch thing that could either doom or save humanity. Pretty much gamble that now 5th chaos god Big E can save humanity
I've always been amused by the proposition that the Emperor's ascension to godhood would be a good thing for humanity. People somehow always seem to forget what happened to the last species whose decay and fall from grace resulted in the creation of a chaos god embodying the degeneracy of their society.
@@beefmonstr4644exactly, who is to tell, the actual emerging creature would act like the Old Emperor, and not reflect that ideas perversion in the current state of the Imperial Cult.
I can just imagine Draigo teleporting into the middle of the grey Knights hq, yelling "Unleash the Terminus Decree" and then disappearing, and everyone in the room just looks around confused
Previously on Warhammer 40k... The incorruptible bastion against demons and chaos - no really, they are completely pure. No, no really, not one has fallen to chaos. Has made a glorious tribute to Kohrne
Two ideas of what the Terminus Decree is: - One, the fully depressing grimdark path. Instructions for entering the Webway, which was ruined from the entry the Emperor was building. Meaning this document is effectively useless. - Two, instructions for reversing the golden throne. Unleashing MILLENNIUM of pent up psychic energy in one single pulse to try to coalesce the emperor in a last ditch attempt of survival. Bonus third idea which is incredibly wild. It's something related to the deal the emperor struck with chaos, and somehow, has the means to reverse this deal.
If u really don't know, I put it in the bottom paragraph, but SPOILERS, FOR REAL. If u don't want to be spoiled, for the love of PEPA NURGLE! READ THE SIEGE OF TERRA!!! Just audiobook it, if your short on time. Its the greatest gift to mankind, in this IRL dystopian MEDIA hellscape. Where men play dress-up, mega-corps are corrupted, from top to bottom. And the western film/game industry is dead set on putting out, made for nobody, G-Rated, "we HATE what you like" media. Where all IPs are clones, of clones, of an original idea, that was great for its time (movie/game/book), but now, mid, at best. With a few exceptions.... umm, oh yea, 40k. **SPOILERS BELOW** The Terminus Decree is an Emperor-sanctioned, Malcador-planned protocol that will unleash a genetic weapon capable to destroying all Astartes gene-templates. The weapon was devised by Basilio Fo under the auspices of Valdor. The Sigilitte's spy rings learned of this and the Sigilitte ultimately claimed authority over its control. After his death, his organization is charged with enacting the "terminus sanction" under pre-specified conditions. Eventually this "terminus sanction" takes the form of the Terminus Decree and is entrusted to the Grey Knights
@@TheKnizzine _And from the forbidden depths of the dungeons of Terra, a world saturated by his Holy Light, an impossible stillness grew._ _And from beyond the furthest reaches of the Galaxy, horns of war forgotten by all but those ancient few sounded once more._ _And within the Throne Room of His Holy Palace, a cinder faded, for the fires must rage._ _Wherever there is life, there must be death. And today, _*_Death, there will be._* ... _Wait... _*_W H E R E T H E F U C K I S T H E E M P E R O R ._* Trazyn: "Won't say :3"
The best guess (and by "best", I mean "most interesting") I've heard is that the decree states a location to an STC template capable of constructing the old Men of Iron, and the reason that the Grey Knights have the Decree is because it would *really* be the Grey Knights that would use the creation of soulless, heretical, unstoppable AI as a last resort to save/doom humanity
I feel they missed the most important part about Phos weapon, it's gene locked to The Emperor, so every Astartes, every Primarch and the Emperor would have died. A last ditch effort to save humanity from Horus's betrayed at the the height of the Siege it was constructed so you can imagine the mindset behind it at the time, similar to the atom bomb deterant but if it didn't get used
@@isuckatusernames4297 that's the only survivable loophole I could find too (aside from Chaos BS), however the pathogen may go dormant without a target host until one re appears so it could attack them every respawn or once we'll never know
I think that the emperor's plan long term is to slowly ascend to a more stable godhood than the chaos gods. The Terminus Decree in my mind is a ritual that fast forwards it turning his ascension to one closer to Slaanesh's, becoming the true god of humanity but with the costs associated with that kind of universally traumatic ascension.
The Emperor was losing to Drach'nyen because of symbolism; which is straight up how Daemons work. it was the End of Empires, he's The Emperor. It had the symbolic advantage, so it was being warp boosted. Its like how True Faith can hurt Daemons due to the symbolism, but here it was turned in the daemon's favor.
Early in the episode they were talking about turning off the Golden Throne and wondering "but how would that save the Imperium?" But some have said that the Emperor being kept alive on the Golden Throne is doing more harm than good. It's preventing him from ascending to godhood or something. As long as he's being kept tethered to the mortal realm via the Golden Throne then Chaos will never be defeated, and humanity can never win. Only by letting him "die" can he ascend to his true form and save humanity. I think this was mentioned most recently in "The Lion: Son of the Forest."
It’s an idea. But it was also warned against in books like Dark Imperium wherein Guilliman has a discussion with warp minded people to discuss the possibility of the emperor becoming a god. He gets a very cagey warning from his Eldar friend basically that just because the emperor pre Golden Throne+10k years was good for humanity doesn’t mean that whatever comes out will be. It’s also reminiscent of the violent destruction of the birth of Slaanesh who consumed an entire empire.
@@discopete117and slaughtering almost the entire pantheon of the eldar. I remember hearing that someone (forgot the name) was actively trying to free the emperor from his golden throne but the emperor himself despite how painful it is to keep his ass glue to that chair was, doesn't want to be free from it because the emperor knows it won't end well for anyone if he carelessly freed himself from his mortal shell.
*imperium falling apart as terra is under siege, ragtag group of heros open the box to save the imperium and all that it is a mirror showing them the friends they mad ealong the way with a little confetti
I’d absolutely love to see more episodes like this one where it’s a lot of interesting speculation, it’s actually unintentionally brought to light a lot of lore I wasn’t aware of, like how Magnus was supposed to be the one to take the golden Throne
I would like to believe that the terminus decree is a paper that holds the secret for recreating a critical component to AI. The re-emergence of AI could save humanity, but also destroy it again.
Something a lot of people miss is that terminus is also a railroad term. A terminus is a major rail hub that is designed to quickly decouple engines from cars and to send them off where they need to go. A terminus has a massive roundabout that has roundhouses built into it where they can couple and decouple cars to the engines, then send the fully loaded trains out to where they need to go, and send decoupled cars where they need to go, whether it be repairs, getting filled or emptied, or sent to be coupled to another engines. Terminus was the original name for Atlanta as the whole city originally served as a massive railways hub. Maybe the Terminus Decree is the means on how to move extremely important devices across the Imperium to form a new capitol, thus the whole term destroy or save the Imperium.
Tonite On Ridiculous Gear: DK tries the Terminus Decree Ritual but struggles as it forces DK to read which causes him to pass out, Bricky tries breaking into the Chamber of Purity by headbutting the door but the door is so strong that even Bricky's forehead is no match and Shy wants the Terminus Decree for herself to bring about the End Times of the Imperium because she's just a little mischievous Shy
"We won't do three Grey Knights episodes in a row" - Bricky (paraphrased). Well I supposed there was an intermittent detective ridiculous. I am by no means complaining however, this is good stuff.
Based off the Grey Knights being the ones protecting it and it’s just a piece of parchment, it’ll probably end up being the true name of some mega powerful Daemon/warp entity.
For anyone wondering, I managed to track down the original text as penned by our Spiritual Liege, Matt Ward, himself *THE TERMINUS DECREE* Deep within the Chambers of Purity, locked away in the chamber said to hold the tomb of the Sigilite himself, rests a simple wooden box, embellished with a golden seal. Within this box, written upon ancient parchment, is the instruction known only as the Terminus Decree. This artefact[sic] goes unrecorded in all the libraries of the Imperium, for it has been kept secret from all but the Supreme Grand Masters of the Chapter Only a Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights knows how to open the box, and he will do so only when all hope for the future of humanity seems lost. The Terminus Decree is the ultimate sanction of the Grey Knights, a secret so vast it could bring the Imperium to its knees, or save it in its darkest hour. The exact nature of the document is unknown, and the only clue to its contents lies in the box's golden seal. It is whispered that it is the exact match of another seal, found only in one place in all the Imperium's many scattered worlds: the Emperor's Golden Throne.
so from this we can infer that the original intention for the idea was that it would relate to the Golden Throne, it was specifically stated to be instructions, and that it's kinda strange that people are whispering about this given that it is only known about by, at most, 2 living people at any given time
My head-cannon is "This is how I struck deal with Chaos Gods and made Primarchs. Now one of you have to repeat that. If your will is as strong as mine and mind as sharp, you can save Mankind. If it's not, you can damn it."
Valdor: *sonic boom has he breaks ALL the walls* "DON'T YOU FUCKING DEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
this was my thought also, Instructions for Making More Primarchs making more could either save or doom the Imperium EASILY depending on how the New Primarchs are raised
That's actually a great guess, the chaos gods need humans or at the very least prefer them, if the empire was on the brink the chaos gods would probably be willing to save it to continue their great game
He operates entirely off of grimdank logic, is the meme that Ultramarines are Gary Stu's? Then they must be Gary Stu's and are thus deserving of hatred. So basically he operates as about half of the fanbase does
@@chronovac Whoa, whoa, most ppl on hear don't speak High Gothic. I'll translate this to Low Gothic: "Aye, dat boy with the 5-head, def rode the short bus."
My theory for the Terminus Decree has been that it instructs the Grey Knights to give Magnus the Noble shard of his soul back. At this point, he’s either try and save the imperium or be just as angry, but at full strength. It would either save the imperium or destroy it.
Honestly give how Magnus and many Thousand Sons don’t even like Tzeentch, and at that point it’s either Deus Ex Machia or Galactic death, I can see this being a possibility. I mean if we’re at the point of using the Terminus Decree, we have already reached the point of no return *long* ago. And it’s not like either the Imperium nor Magnus have much left to loose at that point.
The Astronomicon was controlled by big E long range, but the more humanity expanded the greater a strain it put on him to maintain it so it lead to his plan to make the Imperial webway. The golden throne was originally built to maintain and control the Imperial Webway and he intended to sit Magnus on it once the Webway project was complete. After he was bonked it was makeshift turned into both a cork on top of the broken webway and a life support system while the Astronomicon requires psykers because he is too weak to maintain it directly while also constantly battling the Chaos gods.
The book kiroth is referencing about the grey knights being "just better space marines" is the Emperor's Legion from the Watchers of the Throne series. (Incredible books would recommend) A strike squad of Grey Knights links up with Valerian a Custodian to fight the demon invasion at the gates of terra he mentions them being just a step below himself and his fellow custodians so it's reasonable to assume they are quite a bit more powerful than your average space marine considering the only other time he thinks like this is when he's standing off against the minotaurs chapter master (giga chad Asterius) and these are just your run of the mill strike squad not even a paladin or something of that caliber. The sister of Silence whos the other main character of that book Aleya also mentions they were maybe only a fraction slower than Valerian which is saying something considering they were under null effects and couldn't psychically link up as a squad or use any of their psychic abilities to enhance themselves. A lot of other books typically don't take this stance on them unfortunately, I enjoy David Annadele and Chris Wrights power scaling the most probably as they make it fairly consistent in how strong characters are and the real world factors that can affect them typically (doesn't matter how strong you are when you're locked in the webway with an ungodly number of drukhari" but others sometimes like to use them as a worf stick. (Months of shame nonesense bleh) But they are quite literally made from the geneseed of the emperor himself so it would stand to think that just bog standard they would be stronger and faster than most space marines baring the truly exceptional. For Grey Knights Geneseed reference and all the nuts that think they are from magnus or something like that directly from the Eighth Grey Knights Codex "Where the other Space Marine Chapters were built upon existing stock, the Grey Knights were born of a new gene-seed, one without the flaws of those that had gone before, and which carried the gift of the Emperor’s own flesh and soul." it really doesn't get that much clearer than that.
Don't think I've heard this one suggested yet: Consider; who would have wrote the Terminus decree? Either the Emporer or Malcedor Who associated with the Grey Knights, the protector of the TD? Not the Emp, it was Malcedor's plan What is it? If I recall, it is a singular piece of parchment paper, so it must be something simple to write What does Malcedor know? A lot Who did he write it for? They Grand Master of the Grey Knights Who was that at the time? Janus What was Janus? A loyalist Thousand Son with a shard of Magnus So it has to be something Janus could do, likely, which would be warp related, but needed to be kept out of the hands of Chaos. My guess this is the true name of the Emporer, which Janus would give to either/or both Constantin Valdor and Leman Russ, who are searching for the Emporer's name to bring to the Tree of Life to return the Emporer to his former self. Janus would be the only Grey Knight with power over the Warp to reach them. So this name would be the key to reviving the Emporer OR if it fell to the hands of Chaos the end of the Imperium/ Galaxy.
You know, the deeper and deeper this podcast has gone, the more and more I realize how little of the main storyline Bricky, and Kirioth to a certain extent, actually know about.
@hugisdb. While it can be a bit infuriating sometimes, Bricky and Kirioth do have other stuff going on then just being complete WH40K encyclopedias. And honestly, some of there lack of knowledge has made this podcast incredibly funny and inspiring. At least to me. There’s a level of relatability with them and I like that instead of being talked down to, like I’m a smooth brain.
I believe the reason the terminus decree exists is to keep hope in the imperium. I once read this story about a man who got his sister an empty box as a wedding gift as he was poor. He told her to only open the box in the event that there is no hope for their future be it financial or emotional problems. 80 years later the sister never opened the box as every time she thought of opening the box she would look at all the ways things would be better and that would help her keep going My idea is that the terminus decree is noting but a peace of parchment with nothing on it. The point of it is that it will force the impulsive imperium to actually think of their actions in the darkest of times as the belief that opening said box could destroy the imperium as well as save it would cause them to think about their actions
'Terminus Decree' just sounds like an overly-ornate way of saying 'Off Instruction'. Either Empz true name or how to switch off the Throne. There's the whole 'if Empz dies, he may (or not) respawn, full-fledged. It's a final toss of a coin when ultimately everything seems lost.
Mission brief: The [Redacted] is sent to [Redacted] to eliminate [Redacted]. Though out the course of the period of [Redacted] the [Redacted] managed to overrun the local guardsmen but with intervention from the [Redacted] successfully counter the [Redacted]. By the order of highest order of [Redacted], the planet is considered [Redacted] even though local populations managed to survive despite the possibility of contamination of the water system. The holy order of [Redacted] concluded to [Redacted] the planet as the risk is too high. May the Emperor watch over his people even in death. By [Redacted].
They’re all forgetting the fact that he was only shaping and guiding the Astronomican. He’s also holding the webway on terra closed at all times or a second eye of terra will open devouring the sol system.
My personal head cannon is that the terminus decree is something to be enacted at the end times, when hope is lost. There is no way for humanity to prevail over chaos, in this continuum. So, when the end times are nigh, the grandmasters of the grey knights open the container and find in it, instructions to kill the emperor. A ritual to end the mortal life of the emperor, as well as fling his psychic self-back in time to prehistoric earth, for essentially a do-over. At which point, his soul, caught in the time-space continuum, imparts visions of the end times to shamans of the primeval world, and acts as a catalyst for the ritual, resulting birth of the strongest human psyker. But having undertaken such an arduous journey, his psyche is fragmented, only the vague incomplete visions of a doomed future remain. He spends the rest of his lifetime trying to regain his memories, and by the time of the great crusade has just about reached his prime when.... all the events replay again. Like in Arthur C. Clarke's 'Childhood's end', his projection keeps travelling through various cycles, forever doomed to replay events, ad infinitum.
Only Adeptus Ridiculous would do an episode on the Terminus Decree right before we (probably) learn what it actually is in the End and the Death Part II in a couple months.
Maybe the document is a detailed schematic on how to build STCs and move humanity into the web way, effectively ending all the emperors work. The gray knights would be the ideal chapter to serve as a rear guard for an evac through portals on Terra once they gather enough people and the decree being placed with malcador the guy that was the emperors closest friend is a way to honor him by having his body protect the biggest threat to the emperors ambitions.
The Terminus decree is actually just a peice of paper that has just three words which hold more power than everything in warhammer combined. "Games workshop copyright."
Watch it be like the dragon scroll from the first Kung Fu Panda. Drago opens it but its just a reflective blank parchment. He’s disappointed at first but upon starring at it, he realizes the answer was within the whole time. So he solos all of chaos. 😂
So, Kept in a wooden box. A piece of parchment. Protected by the gray knights. Shrouded by secrecy. Capable of influencing events on a galactic level (presumably). Got it. A sonic Screwdriver. With a psychic paper. With the Doctor's true name written on it. Can't be anything else.
It’s the location of a fully intact STC. This would end the imperium as we know it cause all the tech from the golden age would once again be accessible, it would also get rid of the need for the tech priest and mechanicus while elevating the imperium from a faction that’s trying to survive in the galaxy into the new preeminent faction of the galaxy. Just a thought!
The Terminus Decree was written in the late 10th Millennium by the famous scribe Spongerobertus Squarepanticus and contains the secret formula for something called a "Carcinized Hamburg Steak Sandwich".
I think the paper has either Big E's True name, the name of a forgotten warp being, or a way to turn off the throne. The throne BTW, if turned off would kill big e... but the thing everyone forgets is that Big E is a perpetual: if he is allowed to die, he would eventually comeback after an unknown time. So he dies, shit goes into Party Time, and he comes back after a while and starts again from scratch.
Plot twist: When the end of the universe came, the Grey Knights open the box and read the paper, which has literally a single massive capital letter E on it, which is in fact the real name of the Emperor, Big E.
The Golden Throne was a tool to build the human webway gate. It operates as a lighthouse now, but the project that Big E was working on when he left the Great Crusade to Horus's leadership was the human webway gates. The issue arose that Big E had to be on the throne because Magnus blew a massive hole through the webway gates in order to get a message to Big E that the Heresy was starting. When that happened the webway project had to be put on hold because magnus essentially blew a tremendously large hole in a tunnel through the warp that let daemons just start pouring through. The reason Big E is on the throne is less about the astronomicon and more about the fact that Terra itself would be overrun by daemons from the webway gates.
It's hinted that The golden throne was to be a weapon of mass destruction for the immaterium. Magnus was to be on it "screaming into the void" for all eternity purifying the warp. The web way was the launch points for the Emporer to send his will through Magnus and scourge the chaos gods from existence. We see the effect but on a smaller scale occur in Mechanicum. Then it goes into detail in A Thousand Sons. Check out the section when Magnus Kool aid his way into the throne room. He immediately figures it out. Then watch the exchange between him and chaos when he falls.
It’s just a string? Yeah. But if you pull the string not opens this compartment. And inside is an embarrassing photo of Emperor at the Christmas party!
The book where the Custodes is remarking about how Grey Knights aren't overly hindered by the presence of Sisters of Silence when fighting Daemons is "Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion" and is set just after the revival of Gulliman I believe. Hilariously that same passage has the Sister of Silence noting that the Grey Knights weren't much weaker than Custodes right before the aforementioned Custodes standing jumps high enough to stab a Bloodthirster in the chest. (Spoilers for the book but considering later on how a bunch of Custodes and Sisters enact a last stand against an entire Chaos warship, I feel like someone was being generous in their assessment)
My personal take is that the paper has the True Name of the Emperor (like daemons have). With this it could save the imperium by either reviving the emperor or giving Grey Knights and others some pf the power of Big E but it could be the downfall because if it falls into the hands of Chaos or a power hungery marine it would spell doom.
Consider the story of how the emperor was created. Mass ritual sacrificing of powerful shamans (psykers). Now imagine what could happen if all the Grey Knights ritually sacrificed themselves. They're gonna create a NEW EMPEROR.
A Space Marine’s biology makes them privy to a wider perspective, a bigger picture afforded by their longevity. Add to that the fact that it’s a Grey Knight chapter master, with all the top secret information that entails, I think they genuinely would have a better idea of how far along the “were fucked” scale the imperium is.
In regards to the turning off The Golden Throne theory was that if The Emperor dies without his life support he could fully regenerate since he is a perpetual, so they take the risk to see if The Emperor can heal before the Imperium gets crushed, my personal theory is that the parchment contains The Emperor's true name.
I figure its one of three things 1. Doge van dire's secret foot pik collection. 2. Nudes of the emperor pre golden throne. 3. Its the emperors plans for the web way if its lost so is humanity and if chaos figured out how to use it everything for every race is lost. Also the grey knights were fighting khorne realized the sister were immune to the khornate power so they killed them all and bathed in their blood to stop khornes powers, yeah kinda dumb. Also sisters being ugly is what stopped my wife from playing them and choosing space wolves.
I like to think it’s directions on how to free the void dragon trapped on Mars. It might just wipe out humanity because of the emperor trapping it, or it might decide to claim the title of machine god and help it’s new servants. Obviously neither scenario is that good for the emperor, so it would explain why it’s a last resort.
@Ashtor1337 no it didn't, they established a new jailer for it and passed a shard of the emperor to Dalia so she could keep it contained and the old priest could rest. Where did you get the fact that it got free?
My personal theory for the decree. The true name of either one of the chaos gods or the emperors true name. Since the true name of a deamon doesn't just banish, it binds the daemon to the will of the speaker
It's definitely got to be a ritual to summon the Emperor as a warp deity. On the plus side, big E is back and can continue his mission, on the down side the astronomicon is definitely being snuffed out
What if malcador was the real emperor. Big E is the primarch of the custodians. The terminus decree resurrects malcador, or allows his soul to be bound to a primarch
I'm glad that they retconned the slaughter of the Sisters of Battle to have the Sisters do a last stand while the Grey Knights completed a ritual to banish the demons.
Ok, I think I have a theory about the Decree, or, less a theory and more a guess. The decree has the true name of The Emperor. Speaking it would naturally banish Big E, sending him back to the warp like all warp creatures. Then either The Emperor would be reborn and save humanity, or when he’s reborn he is so different that he becomes the 5th chaos god
But, Big E _isn't_ a Daemon/warp creature, he's the culmination of mass ritualistic suicide by the shamans of early earth to fuse their souls into a single soul(Big E's), which then went into a new body and become a perpetual, almost-godlike psyker with op plz-nerf powers. Speaking his true name would likely do nothing to him.
Whenever a super virus is mentioned in 40k all I can think is how Nurgle takes it. The plague marines also are only kept ‘alive’ through warp magic, and if they’re cut off they die instantly or actually suffer everything they’ve caught over the centuries. Another theory is that Nurgle’s preference for rot despite being the balanced cycle of rot and renewal is caused by him attempting to rot the entire universe in order to cause a universal reset
My guess has been it's the Emperor's true name. Since he's effectively become a (not so) Chaos God, knowing his true name could completely sieze the reigns of his power. That could be pretty impactful or devistating under the right circumstances. Also, in order for him to ascend,he has to die, hence "terminus."
New theory; the terminus decree is that ritual that potentially made the emperor where all the sages or whatever formed into him. All the grey knights will become emperor 2.0 Also I love that I get to UM actually Kirioth but UM ACTUALLY! The terminus decree is briefly mentioned in the 9th codex I believe.
>Bruh, one of Malcador's most trusted people is "Hasan" >the infinitesimally small chance we get Angron screaming from the warp "HASAN PIKEEEEEER! I'M GOING TO KILL YOU! ON TERRA, IN YOUR TEMPLE!" It's a tiny chance, but not a nonexistant one.
I think a lot of the problems regarding the sexualization of the sisters of battle are still present, given that they still have pretty heavy dominatrix vibes, and I think half the problem comes from the fact that they stopped doing female Space Marines so early on.
To make the sister killing worse, they were fighting khornate daemons, and decided that the best way to fight them off was to murder the holy and bathe in their blood
Don't worry, totally never corrupted. Never. Totally.
"Brother, we are surrounded by water."
"Fear not, brother, I have a solution: I brought some ice."
Sounds like you got a case of corrupted Grey Knights there
I’m so glad this isn’t cannon anymore
Matt Ward is just a misogynistic piece of trash
"Sir Kronkius, everything has gone Terminal, it's time to enact the Decree!"
"Ah yes, the Decree, the Decree for Terminus time, a Decree specifically made to be enacted when everything is at Terminal level, Terminus Decree."
...
"THAT Decree?"
"YES THAT DECREE!"
This is awesome
"... Where is the Terminus Decree?".
The Terminus Decree: Step 1) Deploy the anti-astartes virus weapon. Step 2) ??? Step 3) Profit!
@oldeskul Well alot of astartes are psykers chaos and otherwise. So imagine what that would do to the warp. Remember the Eldar?
@@oldeskulbeat me to it
Just realized, Guilliman was being killed by a cursed Slaanesh blade when he was put in stasis, which means odds are if he died he would be taken by Slaanesh. The Yinari used Guilliman as a test run for getting souls back from Slaanesh
And maybe they will link up with the jester aelderi, the harlequins, and perform the final act and steal back the souls. Would be interesting how they write that out
@@kumaking5519 I'd be down for a full 40k lore reset if this happens. Forget about a few revamped aspect warriors, lets just axe the whole shebang. Find a way to make every firstborn marine perish in the process, including their dogshit gear.
if slenoosh got guilimens soul it would probs make the chaos god game end itself
@wolvie90 I mean realistically lore wise most space marines only last a few hundred years. All new marines are primarius. I seem to recall some space marine in the dark imperium book thinking about how most first born are becoming primarius and those who don't will all die out soon. There still in the tabletop, but actual lorewise they've already become very rare. And it'll be a miracle to see a first born after like 500years. They dont have to change the lore at all the get rid of first borns. They're already going exotic
My theory on the Terminus Decree: It's the suicide ritual that created the Emperor. The intention in case Terra falls and the Emperor is no longer on the golden throne, ALL grey knights enact this ritual to form a NEW emperor like entity, but very different, instead of shamans and what not, it's all hyper-militant grey knights.
I was literally thinking this same thing. Something like "the psyker's guide to ritual suicide". Or a guide on how to steal power from the chaos gods like (supposedly) on Moloch
Instructions on how to make a new big E
So very little would change except the grey knights are dead and there's a new emperor?
@kalyambamhango4548 the power wasn't stolen I think. It was won. Some think it also might have been a contract. They teach him how to make Primarchs but they get half of them
@@kalyambamhango4548"ritual suicide for dummies" 😂
A button just big enough for Bricky's forehead. Perfection
This comment makes me wish this was them live. Shy would show him this.
I’m sure they go through these. The all mighty Shy may be making a meme about this for all we know.
Fucking Ruthless
"FUCKING ASTARTES!"
The cipher moment where he somehow beats custodes, goes to kill the emperor is asked not to then leaves really makes me think he is alpharius
If he is not, then he is most likely Corswain. Aka the dude who shanked Konrad through the spine to save Lion
that or an alpha legion guy trying to fulfil their long term plan, no one wins. they were given two bad future, one with dead horus and one with dead emps. i'm thinking they decided fuck option three: they both die and someone else leads humanity to the future.
@@thewerdnaand afterwards when the Lion asked Corswain “Where is your sword?”, he responds with one of the biggest chad quotes of “Forgive me my Lord, I left it in a Primarch’s spine”.
@@ShadowGhost0117 yep. Which is why, being such a gigachad, I can buy him also being able to kill Custodes. Plus all evidence points to him being Cypher since last we saw, Corswain was fighting Zahariel, the previous known person to hold the title of Cypher. We don't know who won that fight yet, but since Zahariel was a psyker and chaos corrupted, while current Cypher is niether, all evidence points to Corswain winning the fight and taking the title of Cypher
I was also thinking this but if it was Alpharius then was the fuck is keeping the Sword for? Wasn't it supposed to be the Key to waking the Lion?
The Terminus Decree is actually a note that says "Can I offer you a tangerine in these end times?" next to what presumably once was a tangerine, 12k years expired
We all know that the Terminus Decree is the electricity bill for the Golden Throne. Truly, a document of universe-shattering implications.
The emperor dodging his bills because hes dead. The tax office did not like it
*Motive Force bill. Fortunately the Admech have forgotten it exists, so there will be no war between Terra and Mars today!
Based.
Huh, the one thing that can rival humanities numbers
@@Der_DekanterHorus: Tax evasion is a crime, father
Emperor: IT'S AN OBLIGATION
It's literally an "If I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me!" button.
Holy shit, if that's actually what the Terminus Decree is then I have a new found respect for Big E, I had a hard time convincing myself that he was human, but that would be the most human thing of all.
Only we are THAT spiteful.
'Only we are that spiteful'... yeah right, have you met the Eldar
@@tomgeytenbeek2207 As if those Filthy Xenos can beat Humanity in any metric. Your Heretic statement has been foreward to the Ordo Xenos.
My favorite version of that is, "There is room in this grave for you too..."
24:36 If I remember correctly the Astronomicon predated the Great Crusade, and was originally seperate from the golden throne, and yes, Big E could guide the astronomicon remotely. The Golden Throne was created to oversee and form the hear of the Emperor's webway project, which was to replace the Astronomicon, and when completed required a powerful psyker to operate it, who was to be Magnus. The life support systems would allow Magnus to continue to live on the throne, but his soul would be fully able to travel and explore the warp. The problem was Magnus's attempt to warn the Emperor about Horus caused damage to both the Astronomicon and the Golden Throne, and more to the point tore a fucking hole between the webway and the warp, allowing demons to enter. The Emperor needs to stay on the Throne both to take advantage of the life support and to hold the Warp tear created by that shut so that Terra isn't consumed by the Warp, while also guiding the damaged astronomicon.
I thought the Golden Throne was FOUND not created
@@HistoritorJimaldus I mean, SOMEONE had to make it first anyway. Also, I think Emps found it *somewhere* and retrofitted and modified it heavily to fit into the astronomican, so you could say that both Found and Made are fitting here
@JimL85 it's been said he found it and has heavily modified it to suit his needs it seems like it's a Eldar or Eldar adjacent creation
I was waiting for someone to reply this
@@Lets_Go_UW It's definitely some crazy Dark Age tech. It's got enough in common with some of the higher end Eldar tech that some of the more technically inclined Dark Eldar are occasionally persuaded to assist in repairs and maintenance to the psychic bits that the AdMech guys can't deal with, but even they don't know where the fuck this thing came from or what its original purpose was. The only thing we really know about it is that it is a powerful enough psychic focus that it would allow an alpha-plus level psyker to brute-force create their own Webway, something even the Old Ones couldn't do, but that the Emperor had to modify it quite a lot in order to do only that and not fulfill its original function.
Here’s a theory: it’s the Emperor’s real name. That would give whoever knows it power to recall him to the Warp to be reborn.
Actually that would be cool because it would tie into his death and rebirth, probably as a new chaos god.
Interesting theory....
@@BrotherVoidBomberHe wouldn't be a Chaos god, as his existence is the polar opposite of them. He would become a Warp deity of his own, probably one that personifies absolute Order or even, if him being the anatema of Chaos means being an entity who opposes the Warp itself, a god akin to Gork and Mork, AKA a god independent of the Warp with its own rules
same, it was the first thing that came to my mind.
Nah, I think that's unrelated. As getting the true name of the Emperor to save hunanity is the goal of the Yellow King. Who is that you may ask? (Spoilers bellow for the Eisenhorn books)
The Yellow King is a mysterious figure opposed to an the Inquisition. He lives in a pocket dimension of the warp. He has an army of winged blood angels, genetically engineered blanks, and emperor-aligned anti-demon possesed (human souls placed in demon warp bodies). There is a book that is found revealing the name of the Yellow King. A name that is the entire contents of the book, because the name is that long. The first two words in that book, the first two words of the name are... Constantine Valdor
Ive always assumed it simply states "kill the emperor" and to let him fully ascend to godhood
Same
Which would explain why its a final last ditch thing that could either doom or save humanity. Pretty much gamble that now 5th chaos god Big E can save humanity
"Tell Cypher its time"
I've always been amused by the proposition that the Emperor's ascension to godhood would be a good thing for humanity. People somehow always seem to forget what happened to the last species whose decay and fall from grace resulted in the creation of a chaos god embodying the degeneracy of their society.
@@beefmonstr4644exactly, who is to tell, the actual emerging creature would act like the Old Emperor, and not reflect that ideas perversion in the current state of the Imperial Cult.
I can just imagine Draigo teleporting into the middle of the grey Knights hq, yelling "Unleash the Terminus Decree" and then disappearing, and everyone in the room just looks around confused
Draigo: *reappears* “I meant HAMS. Release the hams. *teleports away again*
Grey Knights: *even more confused*
Crowe: *rolls eyes* “Shit.”
Hyperion: *so done* “Here we go again.”
Previously on Warhammer 40k... The incorruptible bastion against demons and chaos - no really, they are completely pure. No, no really, not one has fallen to chaos. Has made a glorious tribute to Kohrne
I know someone will go ahead and mention the Silver Knight, but there's no confirmation that they're actually a Grey Knight.
Imagine if the Tyranids are about to eat Terra, the Grey Knights have a look at the terminus decree... "Virus to kill Space Marines".
Two ideas of what the Terminus Decree is:
- One, the fully depressing grimdark path. Instructions for entering the Webway, which was ruined from the entry the Emperor was building. Meaning this document is effectively useless.
- Two, instructions for reversing the golden throne. Unleashing MILLENNIUM of pent up psychic energy in one single pulse to try to coalesce the emperor in a last ditch attempt of survival.
Bonus third idea which is incredibly wild. It's something related to the deal the emperor struck with chaos, and somehow, has the means to reverse this deal.
If u really don't know, I put it in the bottom paragraph, but SPOILERS, FOR REAL. If u don't want to be spoiled, for the love of PEPA NURGLE! READ THE SIEGE OF TERRA!!! Just audiobook it, if your short on time. Its the greatest gift to mankind, in this IRL dystopian MEDIA hellscape. Where men play dress-up, mega-corps are corrupted, from top to bottom. And the western film/game industry is dead set on putting out, made for nobody, G-Rated, "we HATE what you like" media. Where all IPs are clones, of clones, of an original idea, that was great for its time (movie/game/book), but now, mid, at best. With a few exceptions.... umm, oh yea, 40k.
**SPOILERS BELOW**
The Terminus Decree is an Emperor-sanctioned, Malcador-planned protocol that will unleash a genetic weapon capable to destroying all Astartes gene-templates.
The weapon was devised by Basilio Fo under the auspices of Valdor. The Sigilitte's spy rings learned of this and the Sigilitte ultimately claimed authority over its control. After his death, his organization is charged with enacting the "terminus sanction" under pre-specified conditions.
Eventually this "terminus sanction" takes the form of the Terminus Decree and is entrusted to the Grey Knights
4th.
Let the Angel, the 2nd, and 11th out their cages.
5th.
Trayzen is my sucessor.
I think it may be the Emperor’s true name and he works similar to Daemons do with that.
@@TheKnizzine _And from the forbidden depths of the dungeons of Terra, a world saturated by his Holy Light, an impossible stillness grew._
_And from beyond the furthest reaches of the Galaxy, horns of war forgotten by all but those ancient few sounded once more._
_And within the Throne Room of His Holy Palace, a cinder faded, for the fires must rage._
_Wherever there is life, there must be death. And today, _*_Death, there will be._*
...
_Wait... _*_W H E R E T H E F U C K I S T H E E M P E R O R ._*
Trazyn: "Won't say :3"
@@jo_kenafter reading the Eisenhorne books... yes.
29:51
Love how Shy goes straight for throat on that take
The parchment contains the incantation to resurrect the Emperor. The incantation reads “up up down down left right left right B A Select Start”
The best guess (and by "best", I mean "most interesting") I've heard is that the decree states a location to an STC template capable of constructing the old Men of Iron, and the reason that the Grey Knights have the Decree is because it would *really* be the Grey Knights that would use the creation of soulless, heretical, unstoppable AI as a last resort to save/doom humanity
I feel they missed the most important part about Phos weapon, it's gene locked to The Emperor, so every Astartes, every Primarch and the Emperor would have died. A last ditch effort to save humanity from Horus's betrayed at the the height of the Siege it was constructed so you can imagine the mindset behind it at the time, similar to the atom bomb deterant but if it didn't get used
actually the emperor and Vulkan would've just lived trought it since perpetual and all
@@isuckatusernames4297
perpetuals need time to respawn. it probably takes that into account and meant to be used if both were on their timers.
@@isuckatusernames4297 that's the only survivable loophole I could find too (aside from Chaos BS), however the pathogen may go dormant without a target host until one re appears so it could attack them every respawn or once we'll never know
@@novadragonz7357 yeah, on top of chaos favorites like kharn the betrayer d angron who get respawned by their patron gods everytime they die.
I think that the emperor's plan long term is to slowly ascend to a more stable godhood than the chaos gods. The Terminus Decree in my mind is a ritual that fast forwards it turning his ascension to one closer to Slaanesh's, becoming the true god of humanity but with the costs associated with that kind of universally traumatic ascension.
AKA fucking the fabric of reality itself and eating 99.9999% percent of humanities souls plus some Warp gods?
N I C E
Another Eye of Terror but in the Solar system. Maybe call it the Emperor's Gate
The Emperor was losing to Drach'nyen because of symbolism; which is straight up how Daemons work. it was the End of Empires, he's The Emperor. It had the symbolic advantage, so it was being warp boosted. Its like how True Faith can hurt Daemons due to the symbolism, but here it was turned in the daemon's favor.
Early in the episode they were talking about turning off the Golden Throne and wondering "but how would that save the Imperium?" But some have said that the Emperor being kept alive on the Golden Throne is doing more harm than good. It's preventing him from ascending to godhood or something. As long as he's being kept tethered to the mortal realm via the Golden Throne then Chaos will never be defeated, and humanity can never win. Only by letting him "die" can he ascend to his true form and save humanity. I think this was mentioned most recently in "The Lion: Son of the Forest."
It’s an idea. But it was also warned against in books like Dark Imperium wherein Guilliman has a discussion with warp minded people to discuss the possibility of the emperor becoming a god. He gets a very cagey warning from his Eldar friend basically that just because the emperor pre Golden Throne+10k years was good for humanity doesn’t mean that whatever comes out will be. It’s also reminiscent of the violent destruction of the birth of Slaanesh who consumed an entire empire.
I just finished listening to that book an hour ago
@@discopete117and slaughtering almost the entire pantheon of the eldar. I remember hearing that someone (forgot the name) was actively trying to free the emperor from his golden throne but the emperor himself despite how painful it is to keep his ass glue to that chair was, doesn't want to be free from it because the emperor knows it won't end well for anyone if he carelessly freed himself from his mortal shell.
I mean he's supposed to also be a perpetual iirc, so they are literally stopping his actual, functional 'now alive again, just like dear son Vulcan'.
I think we all knew that the Terminal Decree is the friends we made along the way.
*imperium falling apart as terra is under siege, ragtag group of heros open the box to save the imperium and all that it is a mirror showing them the friends they mad ealong the way with a little confetti
I’d absolutely love to see more episodes like this one where it’s a lot of interesting speculation, it’s actually unintentionally brought to light a lot of lore I wasn’t aware of, like how Magnus was supposed to be the one to take the golden Throne
I would like to believe that the terminus decree is a paper that holds the secret for recreating a critical component to AI. The re-emergence of AI could save humanity, but also destroy it again.
Something a lot of people miss is that terminus is also a railroad term. A terminus is a major rail hub that is designed to quickly decouple engines from cars and to send them off where they need to go. A terminus has a massive roundabout that has roundhouses built into it where they can couple and decouple cars to the engines, then send the fully loaded trains out to where they need to go, and send decoupled cars where they need to go, whether it be repairs, getting filled or emptied, or sent to be coupled to another engines.
Terminus was the original name for Atlanta as the whole city originally served as a massive railways hub.
Maybe the Terminus Decree is the means on how to move extremely important devices across the Imperium to form a new capitol, thus the whole term destroy or save the Imperium.
@oldeskul stopped reading halfway through, the terminus decree is about how to get a bisexual nigga from Atlanta onto a train?
@@oldeskul this is the first time I've heard this sort of theory for the terminus decree. definitely the most interesting.
@@henrypaleveda7760Maybe a guide on how to operate the Webway then?
This is definitely not it but I adore the idea
Tonite On Ridiculous Gear: DK tries the Terminus Decree Ritual but struggles as it forces DK to read which causes him to pass out, Bricky tries breaking into the Chamber of Purity by headbutting the door but the door is so strong that even Bricky's forehead is no match and Shy wants the Terminus Decree for herself to bring about the End Times of the Imperium because she's just a little mischievous Shy
It is nive to see you here again!
But how could she do it by herself? She's just a little cherub XD
Just a little guy
@@jackmesrel4933 Just a little cherub >:3
"We won't do three Grey Knights episodes in a row" - Bricky (paraphrased). Well I supposed there was an intermittent detective ridiculous. I am by no means complaining however, this is good stuff.
Based off the Grey Knights being the ones protecting it and it’s just a piece of parchment, it’ll probably end up being the true name of some mega powerful Daemon/warp entity.
True names of the Chaos Gods?
I really like these theory crafting videos you should do more
Same, more of this
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Remember Magnus blew a hole in the throne room and sitting on that throne is also holding that thing in check.
Not the throne room in the web way behind the door underneath the throne
For anyone wondering, I managed to track down the original text as penned by our Spiritual Liege, Matt Ward, himself
*THE TERMINUS DECREE*
Deep within the Chambers of Purity, locked away in the chamber said to hold the tomb of the Sigilite himself, rests a simple wooden box, embellished with a golden seal. Within this box, written upon ancient parchment, is the instruction known only as the Terminus Decree. This artefact[sic] goes unrecorded in all the libraries of the Imperium, for it has been kept secret from all but the Supreme Grand Masters of the Chapter
Only a Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights knows how to open the box, and he will do so only when all hope for the future of humanity seems lost. The Terminus Decree is the ultimate sanction of the Grey Knights, a secret so vast it could bring the Imperium to its knees, or save it in its darkest hour. The exact nature of the document is unknown, and the only clue to its contents lies in the box's golden seal. It is whispered that it is the exact match of another seal, found only in one place in all the Imperium's many scattered worlds: the Emperor's Golden Throne.
so from this we can infer that the original intention for the idea was that it would relate to the Golden Throne, it was specifically stated to be instructions, and that it's kinda strange that people are whispering about this given that it is only known about by, at most, 2 living people at any given time
daemons have names, Valdor is hypothetically looking for the Emperor's, but what if it was the name of Mankind itself?
‘Spencer’
'Eric.'
"Jimmy Space"
"James Werkhshoppe"
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
My head-cannon is "This is how I struck deal with Chaos Gods and made Primarchs. Now one of you have to repeat that. If your will is as strong as mine and mind as sharp, you can save Mankind. If it's not, you can damn it."
Valdor: *sonic boom has he breaks ALL the walls* "DON'T YOU FUCKING DEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
this was my thought also, Instructions for Making More Primarchs
making more could either save or doom the Imperium EASILY depending on how the New Primarchs are raised
That's actually a great guess, the chaos gods need humans or at the very least prefer them, if the empire was on the brink the chaos gods would probably be willing to save it to continue their great game
I don't understand DK's unwarranted hatred of things he doesn't understand lol
He operates entirely off of grimdank logic, is the meme that Ultramarines are Gary Stu's? Then they must be Gary Stu's and are thus deserving of hatred. So basically he operates as about half of the fanbase does
he equates ambiguous writing to lazy writing its just his thing
@@chronovac Whoa, whoa, most ppl on hear don't speak High Gothic. I'll translate this to Low Gothic: "Aye, dat boy with the 5-head, def rode the short bus."
My theory for the Terminus Decree has been that it instructs the Grey Knights to give Magnus the Noble shard of his soul back. At this point, he’s either try and save the imperium or be just as angry, but at full strength. It would either save the imperium or destroy it.
Honestly give how Magnus and many Thousand Sons don’t even like Tzeentch, and at that point it’s either Deus Ex Machia or Galactic death, I can see this being a possibility. I mean if we’re at the point of using the Terminus Decree, we have already reached the point of no return *long* ago. And it’s not like either the Imperium nor Magnus have much left to loose at that point.
The Astronomicon was controlled by big E long range, but the more humanity expanded the greater a strain it put on him to maintain it so it lead to his plan to make the Imperial webway. The golden throne was originally built to maintain and control the Imperial Webway and he intended to sit Magnus on it once the Webway project was complete. After he was bonked it was makeshift turned into both a cork on top of the broken webway and a life support system while the Astronomicon requires psykers because he is too weak to maintain it directly while also constantly battling the Chaos gods.
The book kiroth is referencing about the grey knights being "just better space marines" is the Emperor's Legion from the Watchers of the Throne series. (Incredible books would recommend) A strike squad of Grey Knights links up with Valerian a Custodian to fight the demon invasion at the gates of terra he mentions them being just a step below himself and his fellow custodians so it's reasonable to assume they are quite a bit more powerful than your average space marine considering the only other time he thinks like this is when he's standing off against the minotaurs chapter master (giga chad Asterius) and these are just your run of the mill strike squad not even a paladin or something of that caliber. The sister of Silence whos the other main character of that book Aleya also mentions they were maybe only a fraction slower than Valerian which is saying something considering they were under null effects and couldn't psychically link up as a squad or use any of their psychic abilities to enhance themselves.
A lot of other books typically don't take this stance on them unfortunately, I enjoy David Annadele and Chris Wrights power scaling the most probably as they make it fairly consistent in how strong characters are and the real world factors that can affect them typically (doesn't matter how strong you are when you're locked in the webway with an ungodly number of drukhari" but others sometimes like to use them as a worf stick. (Months of shame nonesense bleh) But they are quite literally made from the geneseed of the emperor himself so it would stand to think that just bog standard they would be stronger and faster than most space marines baring the truly exceptional.
For Grey Knights Geneseed reference and all the nuts that think they are from magnus or something like that directly from the Eighth Grey Knights Codex "Where the other Space Marine Chapters were built upon existing stock, the Grey Knights were born of a new gene-seed, one without the flaws of those that had gone before, and which carried the gift of the Emperor’s own flesh and soul." it really doesn't get that much clearer than that.
The idea of killing the emperor and the involvement of the fallen in this DOES get some precedent from Son of the Forest
Don't think I've heard this one suggested yet:
Consider; who would have wrote the Terminus decree?
Either the Emporer or Malcedor
Who associated with the Grey Knights, the protector of the TD?
Not the Emp, it was Malcedor's plan
What is it? If I recall, it is a singular piece of parchment paper, so it must be something simple to write
What does Malcedor know? A lot
Who did he write it for? They Grand Master of the Grey Knights
Who was that at the time? Janus
What was Janus? A loyalist Thousand Son with a shard of Magnus
So it has to be something Janus could do, likely, which would be warp related, but needed to be kept out of the hands of Chaos.
My guess this is the true name of the Emporer, which Janus would give to either/or both Constantin Valdor and Leman Russ, who are searching for the Emporer's name to bring to the Tree of Life to return the Emporer to his former self. Janus would be the only Grey Knight with power over the Warp to reach them. So this name would be the key to reviving the Emporer OR if it fell to the hands of Chaos the end of the Imperium/ Galaxy.
You rise some really good points
The Terminus Decree is two words written in ancient ink on a Late M2-era plastic slab encasing perfectly preserved brown tape: *INSTALL ME*
Now that's terrifying!
Sure it maybe a shitpost of a answer but that's.
Just ominous!
Is this a reference to some horror story/creepypasta or something?
Grey Knights open the box. To their shock and dismay there is just a note - I O U love Trazyn x
HAHAHAHA I LOVE IT
You know, the deeper and deeper this podcast has gone, the more and more I realize how little of the main storyline Bricky, and Kirioth to a certain extent, actually know about.
I mean it’s a lot of material and a lot of it can be hard to recall cause the lord is dense and has been retconned in certain places
@hugisdb. While it can be a bit infuriating sometimes, Bricky and Kirioth do have other stuff going on then just being complete WH40K encyclopedias. And honestly, some of there lack of knowledge has made this podcast incredibly funny and inspiring. At least to me. There’s a level of relatability with them and I like that instead of being talked down to, like I’m a smooth brain.
"How do you handle a blood thirster without space marines?"
Leman. Russ. Demolisher. Cannon.
I believe the reason the terminus decree exists is to keep hope in the imperium.
I once read this story about a man who got his sister an empty box as a wedding gift as he was poor. He told her to only open the box in the event that there is no hope for their future be it financial or emotional problems.
80 years later the sister never opened the box as every time she thought of opening the box she would look at all the ways things would be better and that would help her keep going
My idea is that the terminus decree is noting but a peace of parchment with nothing on it. The point of it is that it will force the impulsive imperium to actually think of their actions in the darkest of times as the belief that opening said box could destroy the imperium as well as save it would cause them to think about their actions
'Terminus Decree' just sounds like an overly-ornate way of saying 'Off Instruction'. Either Empz true name or how to switch off the Throne. There's the whole 'if Empz dies, he may (or not) respawn, full-fledged. It's a final toss of a coin when ultimately everything seems lost.
Mission brief: The [Redacted] is sent to [Redacted] to eliminate [Redacted]. Though out the course of the period of [Redacted] the [Redacted] managed to overrun the local guardsmen but with intervention from the [Redacted] successfully counter the [Redacted]. By the order of highest order of [Redacted], the planet is considered [Redacted] even though local populations managed to survive despite the possibility of contamination of the water system. The holy order of [Redacted] concluded to [Redacted] the planet as the risk is too high. May the Emperor watch over his people even in death. By [Redacted].
Wait....[Redacted] can be [Redacted]?
I like when Kirioth is around, he is fun and the chemistry is great!
They’re all forgetting the fact that he was only shaping and guiding the Astronomican. He’s also holding the webway on terra closed at all times or a second eye of terra will open devouring the sol system.
My personal head cannon is that the terminus decree is something to be enacted at the end times, when hope is lost. There is no way for humanity to prevail over chaos, in this continuum.
So, when the end times are nigh, the grandmasters of the grey knights open the container and find in it, instructions to kill the emperor.
A ritual to end the mortal life of the emperor, as well as fling his psychic self-back in time to prehistoric earth, for essentially a do-over.
At which point, his soul, caught in the time-space continuum, imparts visions of the end times to shamans of the primeval world, and acts as a catalyst for the ritual, resulting birth of the strongest human psyker.
But having undertaken such an arduous journey, his psyche is fragmented, only the vague incomplete visions of a doomed future remain. He spends the rest of his lifetime trying to regain his memories, and by the time of the great crusade has just about reached his prime when.... all the events replay again.
Like in Arthur C. Clarke's 'Childhood's end', his projection keeps travelling through various cycles, forever doomed to replay events, ad infinitum.
Only Adeptus Ridiculous would do an episode on the Terminus Decree right before we (probably) learn what it actually is in the End and the Death Part II in a couple months.
Dang thats unfortunate we will be forced to make another video and get more bread :
Pity poor man of brick, he LITERALLY means bread, bc he is extremely poor. SHY! (bad joke cliché drum sound)
Maybe the document is a detailed schematic on how to build STCs and move humanity into the web way, effectively ending all the emperors work. The gray knights would be the ideal chapter to serve as a rear guard for an evac through portals on Terra once they gather enough people and the decree being placed with malcador the guy that was the emperors closest friend is a way to honor him by having his body protect the biggest threat to the emperors ambitions.
The Terminus decree is actually just a peice of paper that has just three words which hold more power than everything in warhammer combined. "Games workshop copyright."
Watch it be like the dragon scroll from the first Kung Fu Panda. Drago opens it but its just a reflective blank parchment. He’s disappointed at first but upon starring at it, he realizes the answer was within the whole time. So he solos all of chaos. 😂
Something even more dumb about the daemon they were fighting was Khorne. They cover themself in blood fighting BLOOD god army
Fire against fire doesn't work when you cover yourself in petrol
So, Kept in a wooden box.
A piece of parchment.
Protected by the gray knights.
Shrouded by secrecy.
Capable of influencing events on a galactic level (presumably).
Got it.
A sonic Screwdriver.
With a psychic paper.
With the Doctor's true name written on it.
Can't be anything else.
"HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A TANGERINE?
Also whats this sticky note?"
I'm betting the Decree is a 40k version of an Age of Sigmar button.
It’s the location of a fully intact STC. This would end the imperium as we know it cause all the tech from the golden age would once again be accessible, it would also get rid of the need for the tech priest and mechanicus while elevating the imperium from a faction that’s trying to survive in the galaxy into the new preeminent faction of the galaxy. Just a thought!
The Terminus Decree was written in the late 10th Millennium by the famous scribe Spongerobertus Squarepanticus and contains the secret formula for something called a "Carcinized Hamburg Steak Sandwich".
Honestly I'm convinced that Cypher is Alpherius, especially after that talk with the Custodes
Wasn't Matt Ward one of the lead writers at GW during the Grey Knights Sister Murder incident? Would explain a lot...
Yeah, most of the weird and bonkers Grey Knights lore comes from the neckbeard Matt era...
POV: Bricky about to use metal pipe sound effect while Shy tries to stop him.
I think the paper has either Big E's True name, the name of a forgotten warp being, or a way to turn off the throne. The throne BTW, if turned off would kill big e... but the thing everyone forgets is that Big E is a perpetual: if he is allowed to die, he would eventually comeback after an unknown time. So he dies, shit goes into Party Time, and he comes back after a while and starts again from scratch.
Plot twist: When the end of the universe came, the Grey Knights open the box and read the paper, which has literally a single massive capital letter E on it, which is in fact the real name of the Emperor, Big E.
The Golden Throne was a tool to build the human webway gate. It operates as a lighthouse now, but the project that Big E was working on when he left the Great Crusade to Horus's leadership was the human webway gates. The issue arose that Big E had to be on the throne because Magnus blew a massive hole through the webway gates in order to get a message to Big E that the Heresy was starting. When that happened the webway project had to be put on hold because magnus essentially blew a tremendously large hole in a tunnel through the warp that let daemons just start pouring through. The reason Big E is on the throne is less about the astronomicon and more about the fact that Terra itself would be overrun by daemons from the webway gates.
It's hinted that The golden throne was to be a weapon of mass destruction for the immaterium. Magnus was to be on it "screaming into the void" for all eternity purifying the warp. The web way was the launch points for the Emporer to send his will through Magnus and scourge the chaos gods from existence. We see the effect but on a smaller scale occur in Mechanicum. Then it goes into detail in A Thousand Sons. Check out the section when Magnus Kool aid his way into the throne room. He immediately figures it out. Then watch the exchange between him and chaos when he falls.
It’s just a string? Yeah.
But if you pull the string not opens this compartment. And inside is an embarrassing photo of Emperor at the Christmas party!
The book where the Custodes is remarking about how Grey Knights aren't overly hindered by the presence of Sisters of Silence when fighting Daemons is "Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion" and is set just after the revival of Gulliman I believe. Hilariously that same passage has the Sister of Silence noting that the Grey Knights weren't much weaker than Custodes right before the aforementioned Custodes standing jumps high enough to stab a Bloodthirster in the chest. (Spoilers for the book but considering later on how a bunch of Custodes and Sisters enact a last stand against an entire Chaos warship, I feel like someone was being generous in their assessment)
My personal take is that the paper has the True Name of the Emperor (like daemons have). With this it could save the imperium by either reviving the emperor or giving Grey Knights and others some pf the power of Big E but it could be the downfall because if it falls into the hands of Chaos or a power hungery marine it would spell doom.
I wanna say it's the true name of the emperor and invoking it would revive him but nearly wipe out humanity in the process via mass sacrifice
Given it was most probably Malcador who wrote this there can only be one thing written "The Alpha Legion are Loyalists"
Consider the story of how the emperor was created. Mass ritual sacrificing of powerful shamans (psykers). Now imagine what could happen if all the Grey Knights ritually sacrificed themselves. They're gonna create a NEW EMPEROR.
Something funny about a guy in charge of guarding the decree looking at the galaxy the way it is and going: “No… not yet.”
A Space Marine’s biology makes them privy to a wider perspective, a bigger picture afforded by their longevity. Add to that the fact that it’s a Grey Knight chapter master, with all the top secret information that entails, I think they genuinely would have a better idea of how far along the “were fucked” scale the imperium is.
In regards to the turning off The Golden Throne theory was that if The Emperor dies without his life support he could fully regenerate since he is a perpetual, so they take the risk to see if The Emperor can heal before the Imperium gets crushed, my personal theory is that the parchment contains The Emperor's true name.
The most dangerous sticky note of all time.
Huh, both Adeptus Ridiculous and Majorkill released Grey Knights videos 32 minutes apart.
Real Grey Knight hours I guess
I figure its one of three things
1. Doge van dire's secret foot pik collection.
2. Nudes of the emperor pre golden throne.
3. Its the emperors plans for the web way if its lost so is humanity and if chaos figured out how to use it everything for every race is lost.
Also the grey knights were fighting khorne realized the sister were immune to the khornate power so they killed them all and bathed in their blood to stop khornes powers, yeah kinda dumb.
Also sisters being ugly is what stopped my wife from playing them and choosing space wolves.
I like to think it’s directions on how to free the void dragon trapped on Mars. It might just wipe out humanity because of the emperor trapping it, or it might decide to claim the title of machine god and help it’s new servants.
Obviously neither scenario is that good for the emperor, so it would explain why it’s a last resort.
The void dragon is already free. It escaped it's binding in Mechanicum.
@Ashtor1337 no it didn't, they established a new jailer for it and passed a shard of the emperor to Dalia so she could keep it contained and the old priest could rest. Where did you get the fact that it got free?
53:15 tbf that was before Gullimen and Lion came back and the Galaxy was ripped in half and Imperium was at it breaking point or close to lowest level
Terminus Degree
Golden Throne Operator Manual
Chapter 9:Troubleshooting guide
Step 1: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Maybe the decree is instructions for all the gray knights to get together and perform the ritual that first created the emperor
My hope is that it's a code word for the alpha legion to force every alpha legionnaire to enact an imperium secondus thing again.
I always liked the idea that its big E's true name. Constantine been looking in the wrong place all along :)
It's Nioth cuz ofc GW had to ruin it. I argue it should be Adam
I’m pretty sure The End and the Death confirmed that it’s a super virus that will kill all Astartes
My personal theory for the decree.
The true name of either one of the chaos gods or the emperors true name.
Since the true name of a deamon doesn't just banish, it binds the daemon to the will of the speaker
It’s just a note that says “Don’t fucking worship me -Big E”
It's definitely got to be a ritual to summon the Emperor as a warp deity. On the plus side, big E is back and can continue his mission, on the down side the astronomicon is definitely being snuffed out
also, the last time a civilisation birthed a warp deity it killed off most of their population to near extinction.
Or it tears a hole in reality like the last birth of a chaos god.
@@Ashtor1337 "you've heard of the Eye of Terror, now get ready for... the Eye of Terra!"
What if malcador was the real emperor. Big E is the primarch of the custodians. The terminus decree resurrects malcador, or allows his soul to be bound to a primarch
I'm glad that they retconned the slaughter of the Sisters of Battle to have the Sisters do a last stand while the Grey Knights completed a ritual to banish the demons.
Yea it made no sense that the force who is legit incorruptible had to murder Sisters to protect themselves from corruption (?)
The Terminus Decree is just a slip of paper that says, "Let Cypher cook."
Imagine if the emperor could become the chaos god of order
Maybe it's the true names of all the Chaos Gods?
A way to control or unmake them in an emergency?
Ok, I think I have a theory about the Decree, or, less a theory and more a guess. The decree has the true name of The Emperor. Speaking it would naturally banish Big E, sending him back to the warp like all warp creatures. Then either The Emperor would be reborn and save humanity, or when he’s reborn he is so different that he becomes the 5th chaos god
But, Big E _isn't_ a Daemon/warp creature, he's the culmination of mass ritualistic suicide by the shamans of early earth to fuse their souls into a single soul(Big E's), which then went into a new body and become a perpetual, almost-godlike psyker with op plz-nerf powers. Speaking his true name would likely do nothing to him.
Whenever a super virus is mentioned in 40k all I can think is how Nurgle takes it. The plague marines also are only kept ‘alive’ through warp magic, and if they’re cut off they die instantly or actually suffer everything they’ve caught over the centuries.
Another theory is that Nurgle’s preference for rot despite being the balanced cycle of rot and renewal is caused by him attempting to rot the entire universe in order to cause a universal reset
The TERMINUS DECREE will probably be discussed again at some point. GW is slowly bringing these old things back and incorporating them into the story.
My guess has been it's the Emperor's true name. Since he's effectively become a (not so) Chaos God, knowing his true name could completely sieze the reigns of his power. That could be pretty impactful or devistating under the right circumstances. Also, in order for him to ascend,he has to die, hence "terminus."
New theory; the terminus decree is that ritual that potentially made the emperor where all the sages or whatever formed into him. All the grey knights will become emperor 2.0
Also I love that I get to UM actually Kirioth but UM ACTUALLY! The terminus decree is briefly mentioned in the 9th codex I believe.
>Bruh, one of Malcador's most trusted people is "Hasan"
>the infinitesimally small chance we get Angron screaming from the warp "HASAN PIKEEEEEER! I'M GOING TO KILL YOU! ON TERRA, IN YOUR TEMPLE!"
It's a tiny chance, but not a nonexistant one.
I think a lot of the problems regarding the sexualization of the sisters of battle are still present, given that they still have pretty heavy dominatrix vibes, and I think half the problem comes from the fact that they stopped doing female Space Marines so early on.
I bet it's a specific Enuncia word, either to literally reset the universe or create souls out of nothing. Maybe a word to create a god.
got to love Matt Wards barely disguised misogyny