I think Marines use surface bombs because most of the time they dont have proper exterminatus uses. Local imperial command propably wouldnt supply that to the local crusaders that ignore the power structure and dont give a damn about economical losses. While a plasma reactor bomb is something a techmarine can whip up in a week from spare spaceship parts.
To be kept in mind, for a lot of Inquisitors, calling in an Exterminatus is often an admission of failure, failure to deal with the situation BEFORE it's too late.
This is a very good point to remember . An inquisitor likely had a entire invisible war behind the scenes to prevent a exterminatus but all everyone sees is the big boom at the end.
Imperium does not usually endorse asteroid strikes as an Exterminatus weapon due to time, effort and fuel cost of such an operation. There is a classic fan article, which was actually canonized and published in a White Dwarf and Chapter Approved, called "Rocks are not free!" comparing an Exterminatus done by a Magna-Melta and a space rock. It is still funny.
More realistically the problem is that asteroids are trivially easy to stop for spacefaring civilizations. I mean the Orks make ships out of them and real life humanity or its successors probably will too
I don’t think Bricky noticed, but when he mentioned Kryptman DK started talking about blowing up planets for not throwing parades. DK got Kryptman and Doge Van Dire confused, and I would have loved for Bricky and or Shy to roast him for it.
It's alright sometimes it goes over people's heads during recording. Example: I kept on talking about Shili, the Togruta homeworld but I pronounced it as Csilla the Chiss Homeworld
I fucking love the Votann ship. Every other faction destroys entire worlds to rid them of enemies, Bugs do it because they're hungry, Dwarves do it because the price of gold has risen 6%
Not sure 40k writers understand scale; a planet is mostly metal and the metal in one planet could build a fleet that dwarfs every other fleet in the 40k galaxy. The Earth alone has enough metal for something like 100 TRILLION Universe-class Mass Transporters, one of the biggest ships in the Imperium But, I suppose 40k isn't unique in that regard. It certainly gets it more right than most, at least as far as hive city populations go, although it still tends to low-ball just how massive such a city would be.
Bricky can memorize dozens of books of history for a fictional universe made to sell plastic army toys, but can’t remember the name of the most infamous conquistador in real world history.
Not only, he confused the Mayans for the Inca, the Mayan empire was gone for more than a century before the Spanish showed up Edit: I have been told that was the Aztecs that Cortes butchered, I am just as uninformed as Dk and I was thinking of the acts of Francisco Pizarro on the Inca. According to someone in the replies, the Mayans were more city-states in conflict than an empire and eventually those city-states were reclaimed by the jungle while the people simply returned to smaller communities.
If I remember correctly, virus bombs were practically illegal in the Imperium and were only allowed to be used by 2 people. The Emperor Himself and Warmaster Horus.
Only they had direct authority to launch them, anyone else either needed to get permission from Big E or the Warmaster, or from the High Lords of Terra
darktide the infestation is to the point where guardsmen could probably hold it back until a space marine chapter could be delegated to eradicate the nurgle presence.
Indeed, what makes it tenuous is just that warp travel to and from the planet is disrupted. They turn to expendable death row inmates for special missions because they need every tool they can get. It's also why half those missions involve securing resources for the war effort.
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: Bricky's forehead is a sign of the End Times so desperate measures are taken to ensure that Bricky's planet sized forehead doesn't grow to apocalyptic levels. Shy begins a Orbital Bombardment but due to the shiny nature of the Forehead the laserbeams bounces off the bonce and into Shy's imperial Navy, DK comes up with a different plan and Virus Bombs the Lovecraftian forehead but as Bricky is a Warhammer 40k fan his lack of hygiene soaks up the Virus Bombs like a sponge in water. This leaves Kirioth to fire Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedoes at the now existential threat that looms over them.
@Knoxcom Human astronomers are baffled why there's a giant skeleton constellation in the sky. Priests claim this to be the divine representation of the emperor preserving the backbone of the imperium across the bounds of space. Experts brought from the Mandragora system maintain that the planets previously occupying that sector were deemed "unfaithful" and strayed from the God-Emperor's light.
I remember reading in one of the Cain books that Inquisitor Vail mentions that not only is Exterminatus very rare, but it's not always even viable or wise. Like you wouldn't want to virus-bomb a planet that fell to Nurgle, you'd just be giving them ideas. And getting a fleet together for something more simple might lead to heavy losses.
Eldar have two different methods, Firehearts which are a prefall psychic missile that destroys a planets core and the unnamed weapon Craftworld Yme Loc has that just psychic storms continents and sucks up all the life there.
Slight correction. Firehearts are Anti-matter missiles effectively. There is also the fun Psychic weapon that the Eldar Empire used to have that involved a psychic plague that caused everyone on a planet to kill each other and the only way to stop it was for the Eldar that activated the device that did this to activate it again. They used it as a policing tool.
@@karlrichards7188 It may have been specifically the virus bomb. I remember a conversation of the few loyalist in the fleet right before Horus played his hand on isstvan debating if Horus even had the authority to use it as warmaster or not.
Reminds me of Konie Kruze and Peter Turbo, who legitimately thought that by doing an exterminatus, one of them on a rebel planet, their heads were going to be on the chopping block if they didn't rebel too.
I wanna point out real fast, before he became a Lord High Admiral, Spire actually asked a Inquisitior (i dont remember the Inquisitior's name) if exterminatis really was necessary to which the Inquisitor more or less says that as much as he would prefer to not press the big red button, sometimes it truly is the only option (Battlefleet Gothic is the game)
Isn't there a minor Ordo within the Inquisition, the Ordo Excorium, that investigates whether the usage of Exterminatus was justified or not? If not, I guess that Inquisitor is kaput.
Yes. 90-99% of the time, they excommunicate (A.K.A. put out a death warrant on) whoever put out the Exterminatus order. Thus, they aren't as prevalent as the jokes make them out to be, not every Inquisitor has committed one... Edit: I don't think that Eisenhorn or Ravenor have ever needed Exterminatus, but I obviously could be wrong since a lot of their career happens "off-screen."
@@jagnestormskull3178 Look up Inquisitor Kryptman who Extermatus so many systems as his overall war against Levianthan fleet as a Galactic Cordon to starve them out. He got excommunicated from Inquisition, but still had enough sway to put in a lure to set Levianthan to Octarius Sector and fight against the Ork Empire there. Unfortunately for everyone not Tyranids, they won and came out much stronger.
@@dyingearth I know about Kryptman. He coined the term "Tyranid" after the first planet that they were known to have struck on, Tyran. Although the First Tyrannic War was a success, that f--king idiot decided that it would be a good idea to put two unstoppable forces (Orks and Tyranids) against each other, and in the process of setting it up, destroyed something like twelve planets. Kryptman is a great example of an Inquisitor who used his Exterminatus power cruelly and wastefully, then got excommunicated for it. As for the Octarius War, I thought that was still ongoing. Isn't Ghaz there now, trying to build up enough of a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! dat he can summon Gork an' Mork? Yes, Kryptman still had a lot of political capital within the Ordo Xenos itself, excommunication isn't technically the be all and end all for an Inquisitor's career, but it's still a death warrant that any other Inquisitor can cash in on. _Ex-Inquisitor_ Kryptman is almost definitely constantly watching his back, even more than regular Inquisitors. In another example (SPOILERS AHEAD FOR _The Magos_ and the _Bequin_ series), Eisenhorn had either been excommunicated or otherwise declared a Renegade/Heretic, but he still had enough political capital within the Ordos Scarus to get an Ordo Hereticus Interrogator (and more importantly, his Rosette) to join his crusade against the Cognitae, because that Ordo Hereticus guy believed them to be much more dangerous than one Inquisitor who just went off the reservation.
15:08 to be entirely fair, NASA’s project Artemis (permanent moon base to support other planetary colonization) is under way, it’s just not yet at the point where it’s back on the moon
38:05 "Why didn't they predict Cortez?" They kinda did predict him. They had a prophecy that basically went "Our war god will come to us riding a beast of war we've never seen with an army equipped with weapons of war we've never seen". Cortez showed up on a horse followed by a lot of people in metal armor and bright cloth carrying muskets, so it was as close to the prophecy coming true as you could get. I don't remember whether their war god arriving was supposed to help or harm the Aztecs, but you get the idea.
44:23 The Holy Hand Grenade of Antiok, the number of the counting shall be 3, and the number of which you will count shall be 3. Not 1 less than 3 and not 1 more than 3 shall this counting be.
At the end of the first Farsight book, a space marines chapter master declares exterminatus on a world he had just lost control of. Specifically, he was going to fire one of the torpedoes. Farsight, having anticipated this, sent his AI buddy in a broadside battle suit up into space to shoot his railgun down the barrel of the imperium ship, detonating the torpedo inside the ship and wiping out the whole fleet.
@@bubbasbigblast8563I guess the sheer detonation of such a large charge alone in a pressurised ship was pretty destructive. Then the rubles of the ship went crashing into the rest of the fleet. Or maybe it's just an other case of "it sounds cool so let's roll with it"
@@mat5977 It's the latter. Even the complete destruction of every actual anti-ship torpedo in an Imperial ship just screws up the ship it's attached to, it won't reach out far enough to hit a nearby ship. It wouldn't even work with a Nova Cannon, cos those shells don't prime until moments after firing.
@@AGrumpyPanda If we're being technical a warp shell has a range of friendly fire in that it will destroy the ship firing it if it's too close to the target (this was a plot point in Lords of Silence) so some nova cannon rounds could destroy the ship. That said, this is karma for all the times the imperium have sacrificed a big ship by overloading the reactor to wipe out a whole fleet (or two in the tyrannid battle for Macragge). I would note that Talos fired several cyclonic torpedoes into a moon which was implied to be a dead rock so they can presumably still have some impact if not as destructive when an atmosphere is lacking (it may have had an atmosphere but it was never mentioned).
Ah perfect. I got my McD's. I'm tipsy from two big beers. And I get to chill to you two talking about *planetary extinction technologies*. Perfect way to start my two days off.
Not sure how canon it is, but you can exterminatis from your flagship in ChaosGate. Grey Knights seem like the type to have reason to drop cyclonic torpedos as part of their scorched earth tactic
Dark Angels used to have some ridiculous planet killers hiding out in the Dreadwings arsenal, but that was Horus Heresy. Personal favorite was the Phosphorex bombs, angry nanotech white phosphorus that hunts down any living thing in an area that is either ridiculously toxic once it runs out of steam or goes dormant and reactivates when people get close. For some reason, they made a planet sizes version. Also, Virus Bombs fell out of favor after the Heresy. Apparently, Nurlge's boys love the stuff and may have tricked the Inquisition into making a few Daemon Worlds for them.
Phosphex is a funny one, 'cause earlier in the Crusade, all the Legions had it. But the stuff is so horrific that its production was banned and only the DA had access to the remaining stock. Yea, it is THAT bad.
to bring a counterpoint about the Space Marine's version of Exterminatus being "meh", what's more Space Marine-y than turning a "simple" artillery order into an epic escort mission / TF2 Payload match?
22:50 Now that Diablo 4 is out it would be cool to see DK play Warhammer Inquisitor so he gets some quick context to how an inquisitor works, the weird stuff they fight against, the classified information they live with and the like.
votan should have like a planet accelerator that basicly propels the planet killing and icing everything while it travels to votan controled space to be mined
Cortez was the Aztecs… Mayans died off for reasons we don’t know. I don’t want to be the guy the keeps saying these things but first the Greek thing in the Ferrus episode now this, I don’t want to be this person.
The trick with virus bombs and Tyrannids is that you'd have to cut them off from their main hive so they couldn't relay back sensory data of the event. You could easily wipe out an invasion fleet on the surface with virus bombs because of how swiftly the virus works, but if their bodies can transmit the data of their fleeting fight against that virus, then they might be able to adapt to it so that the virus bomb wouldn't be effective in future. Otherwise you could only use it once against them, forever. Essentially this risk means that using more conventional or alternative methods is likely preferred against tyrannids. Unless you're doing the based Kryptman thing where you're denying their food supply ahead of the invasion. "I didn't bomb that orphanage, I cancelled the enemy's preorder"
Nurgle's gifts always bring about rebirth and new life in some form or another, he is the god of nature and life after all. An Imperial virus bomb wipes out all life in minutes, Nurgle actually hates them. They break the cycle of life and destroy his work plus the life eater virus has no ability to reproduce. A single use virus that can't spread, Nurgle has no use for such things.
"Who says 'no' to the Inquisition and lives to tell the tale?" The Space Wolves outright told the Inquisition and the High Lords of Terra to go fuck themselves after the First War of Armageddon.
The one thing that brought me to 40k was me leaving star wars fandom. I am sure I can be a weirdo and cite Disney, but in truth I just preferred Legends. I love the Super Weapons we saw in the Old Republic and beyond Era and of course I love the Death Star. So in 40k, I looked long and hard to grasp onto something in the lore I loved. That was Exterminatus ‘Exterminatus’ is like a permanent smite from god, but in science fantasy future. You never see it coming. 💡 But when you do, it was probably because someone was a whacko on the surface and tried to summon a tentacle daemon. This is the way. *drinks one last cup of recaf while I await the Emperor’s mercy.* ☕️
In the first Farsight book he fights off against a space marine chapter known as the scar lords who decide to exterminatus the planet farsight's people are on, so he flys his battlesuit up to the ship in stealth mode and just shoots the torpedo while its in the launch tube, blowing up the whole chapter in their command ship lmao
@@__-tp4tm probably virophages. Virophages are tiny virusses that infect larger virusses. To put it simply: it is the diseases' disease. Getting infected with a virophage while you're suffering a viral infection actually makes you get better faster as the virophage infects the virus and prevents it from reproducing.
Probably not, but there are things in reality that make them VERY nervous: Blanks. Because a sufficiently potent blank, like a Culexus, can do something alsmost nothing else can: grant a daemon true death. For immortal creatures, that is just about the scariest damn thing out there.
Exterminatus is one of the spots where grimdark and grimdumb intersect: because while it's totally badass that one bloodthirsty Inquisitor can order an entire planet be destroyed, when you think about the practicality of actually doing that it falls appart.
It makes the most sense against a Tyranid situation especially if the biosphere collapses and it's just more effort than it'd be possibly worth defending one planet as opposed to several when a tendril is on the rise. Otherwise? Maybe for like heavy chaos shenanigans where the planet is pretty much already gone so might as well take it out but situations like Darktide wouldn't warrant one
The absolute best part about Roks is that even after the earth-shattering blow of a city-sized asteroid (or even several) striking the surface of the planet, any part of it that is still remotely intact will still be absolutely CRAWLING with orks, who will almost immediately begin pouring out of the thing and going to town on whoever is still alive.
15:09 On the subject of space colonial efforts, I can recc Powers of the Earth by Travis Coccoran. Space libertarians colonizing the moon with converted cargo ships. If you like hard scifi, detail oriented procedurals, and anti corpro/gubbermint sentiment; read it.
Orks also used moons that messed up a planet's gravity in the War of the Beast. They did this to several planets. I was also surprised not to hear talk about the Black Fortresses since they are 1 ship planet killers.
As for the elite Marine strike force sabotaging the planet's own reactors? That was a thing. The Carharodons did that to Badab Prime's. Woulda been nice if the Guramarines warned the other forces to get evac ready ahead of time.
The Star Wars equivalent to an Exterminatus isn't the Deathstar, it's a naval procedure called Base Delta Zero. IIRC this can be done by any capital ship mounting heavy turbolasers, with a single ISD able to complete the bombardment in 3hrs, though normally a squadron of 3 are used.
I feel like the best Inquisitor I've been exposed to is Inquisitor Harkin in the "Imperator: Wrath of the Omnissiah" novel. He's quite calm when pressed about why people shouldn't trust an Inquisitor and is aware of the inherent logical fallacy of presenting a symbol that immediately demands loyalty and obedience as the end-all-be-all as to why one should submit to an Inquisitor's authority.
Virus bombs arent used often , because you need special facilities to produce it and as you said its an surface weapon so its not effective against high grade bunkers or even Necron tomb complexes , there are even special strains of the life-eater that are only targeting "special" lifeforms but those are allegedly even more rare , but you better ask Luetin about those tbh :)
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Fun fact during WWII when the nukes where droped on Japan the egg heads did not know if the nukes whould set the whole air on earth on fire.
I think Marines use surface bombs because most of the time they dont have proper exterminatus uses. Local imperial command propably wouldnt supply that to the local crusaders that ignore the power structure and dont give a damn about economical losses. While a plasma reactor bomb is something a techmarine can whip up in a week from spare spaceship parts.
To be kept in mind, for a lot of Inquisitors, calling in an Exterminatus is often an admission of failure, failure to deal with the situation BEFORE it's too late.
This is a very good point to remember . An inquisitor likely had a entire invisible war behind the scenes to prevent a exterminatus but all everyone sees is the big boom at the end.
Pride fits as a reason holding back the numbers.
Kryptman: "My Mama once said, Keep going until you succeed, not to let failure stop you." *Proceeds to exterminatus several planets*
Was about to say this XD
@@rerako4755 LOL hey now, that was strategic! 😂
Imperium does not usually endorse asteroid strikes as an Exterminatus weapon due to time, effort and fuel cost of such an operation. There is a classic fan article, which was actually canonized and published in a White Dwarf and Chapter Approved, called "Rocks are not free!" comparing an Exterminatus done by a Magna-Melta and a space rock.
It is still funny.
I came here to the comments to be mildly put out that they didn't mention that in this video as it's so dang good.
asteroid strike exterminatus approved for orc nation.
"You think you're smart, do you? You're getting sent to the BLUE chair, idiot"
More realistically the problem is that asteroids are trivially easy to stop for spacefaring civilizations. I mean the Orks make ships out of them and real life humanity or its successors probably will too
"And you will sit in the blue chair."
I don’t think Bricky noticed, but when he mentioned Kryptman DK started talking about blowing up planets for not throwing parades. DK got Kryptman and Doge Van Dire confused, and I would have loved for Bricky and or Shy to roast him for it.
It's alright sometimes it goes over people's heads during recording. Example: I kept on talking about Shili, the Togruta homeworld but I pronounced it as Csilla the Chiss Homeworld
Bro wth spoilers
@@crushersbutlessedgynow you're literally reading the comments about exterminatus.. And you don't expect spoilers? That's on you, mate.
“Is that a cannon?”
“Yeah that’s canon”
“THATS A GUN?!”
The miscommunication here was absolute comedy gold
51:35
I fucking love the Votann ship. Every other faction destroys entire worlds to rid them of enemies, Bugs do it because they're hungry, Dwarves do it because the price of gold has risen 6%
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Not sure 40k writers understand scale; a planet is mostly metal and the metal in one planet could build a fleet that dwarfs every other fleet in the 40k galaxy.
The Earth alone has enough metal for something like 100 TRILLION Universe-class Mass Transporters, one of the biggest ships in the Imperium
But, I suppose 40k isn't unique in that regard. It certainly gets it more right than most, at least as far as hive city populations go, although it still tends to low-ball just how massive such a city would be.
Bricky can memorize dozens of books of history for a fictional universe made to sell plastic army toys, but can’t remember the name of the most infamous conquistador in real world history.
Not only, he confused the Mayans for the Inca, the Mayan empire was gone for more than a century before the Spanish showed up
Edit: I have been told that was the Aztecs that Cortes butchered, I am just as uninformed as Dk and I was thinking of the acts of Francisco Pizarro on the Inca. According to someone in the replies, the Mayans were more city-states in conflict than an empire and eventually those city-states were reclaimed by the jungle while the people simply returned to smaller communities.
@@42ndguardian The mayans never were an empire they were a bunch of city states that waged war against each other just like ancient greeks.
Hernan Cortez was a war veteran who fought against many Ottoman expansion campaigns.
Honestly? Based. There are few people less deserving of being remembered than Cortez or Pizarro.
I mean, with a forehead that big he’s gotta have a giant collection of lore in there
If I remember correctly, virus bombs were practically illegal in the Imperium and were only allowed to be used by 2 people. The Emperor Himself and Warmaster Horus.
Only they had direct authority to launch them, anyone else either needed to get permission from Big E or the Warmaster, or from the High Lords of Terra
And even then Horus was a grey area on of he actually had the authority or not. For the short time that mattered anyway.
I’m sure The Lion could also use them, the Lion got to break every rule in the book
I thought they stopped because someone realized that, "...wait, we're using a _virus_ to kill off a whole world. Isn't that Nurgle's thing?"
That makes what Herman Von Strab did in the 2nd war of Armageddon a whole lot worse than it already was.
darktide the infestation is to the point where guardsmen could probably hold it back until a space marine chapter could be delegated to eradicate the nurgle presence.
would love to see boltgun's sassy nurgling in darktide lmao
Indeed, what makes it tenuous is just that warp travel to and from the planet is disrupted. They turn to expendable death row inmates for special missions because they need every tool they can get. It's also why half those missions involve securing resources for the war effort.
You heard him. He said "NO" at the end there. HE SAID "NO". WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER EPISODE OF BLOOD ANGELS. IT'S THE BLOOD ANGELS WOOOOOOOOO
i mean we definitely need the devestation of baal
@@antigrav6004 And Dante, Mephiston, the Sanguinor and others
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: Bricky's forehead is a sign of the End Times so desperate measures are taken to ensure that Bricky's planet sized forehead doesn't grow to apocalyptic levels. Shy begins a Orbital Bombardment but due to the shiny nature of the Forehead the laserbeams bounces off the bonce and into Shy's imperial Navy, DK comes up with a different plan and Virus Bombs the Lovecraftian forehead but as Bricky is a Warhammer 40k fan his lack of hygiene soaks up the Virus Bombs like a sponge in water. This leaves Kirioth to fire Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedoes at the now existential threat that looms over them.
This... is true.
That's a story in a paragraph. Emperor bless.
Ridiculous gear: season 3 finally
@@Twinsidedsoldier I think I went a bit overboard but blame Thunder Child for that lmao I was listening to music as I typed it out
This was a fookin acid trip to read
The lore for the Iron Hands is head and shoulders above their primarch.
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@@amargwari2431 wow there buddy it's just a joke don't lose your head over it
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Imagine youre a necron and you trip into the celestial orrery, planting your hand firmly on several star systems to catch yourself
@Knoxcom *a scarab gets into the room*
@Knoxcom Human astronomers are baffled why there's a giant skeleton constellation in the sky. Priests claim this to be the divine representation of the emperor preserving the backbone of the imperium across the bounds of space. Experts brought from the Mandragora system maintain that the planets previously occupying that sector were deemed "unfaithful" and strayed from the God-Emperor's light.
@@consolescrub4031Oh that's funny!
Also, the life-eater virus has a chance to strengthen Nurgle, so it’s not the best choice at times
Life eater virus can't reproduce, it dies after it has wiped out all life. that is the opposite of helping Nurgle.
It would not surprise me in the slightest if The Imperium in it's infinite wisdom dropped the Life Eater virus on Plague cults several times
@SCP - 1669 - 53 bullshit. This has to be false
@SCP - 1669 - 53 Was it Sly Marbo?
@@maverickso8397I actually remember hearing something similar somewhere so might not be bs
Bricky: "Exterminatus these nuts."
Ad Mech : "Permission to go forth with the biological neutering has been granted, proceed with the operation."
If memory serves, the great crusade world eaters once did an exteminatus manually.
Pre and post Hersey World Eaters can ONLY commit exterminatus.
I remember reading in one of the Cain books that Inquisitor Vail mentions that not only is Exterminatus very rare, but it's not always even viable or wise. Like you wouldn't want to virus-bomb a planet that fell to Nurgle, you'd just be giving them ideas. And getting a fleet together for something more simple might lead to heavy losses.
Eldar have two different methods, Firehearts which are a prefall psychic missile that destroys a planets core and the unnamed weapon Craftworld Yme Loc has that just psychic storms continents and sucks up all the life there.
Slight correction. Firehearts are Anti-matter missiles effectively. There is also the fun Psychic weapon that the Eldar Empire used to have that involved a psychic plague that caused everyone on a planet to kill each other and the only way to stop it was for the Eldar that activated the device that did this to activate it again. They used it as a policing tool.
Bricky's description of what Eldars are doing is pretty much how I feel about their lore. "Oh, they're doing Eldar things."
(Former) Inquisitor Fidus Kryptman approves of this episode
Imagine being exiled from the Inquisition for being too cruel. What an overachiever, give this man a round of applause.
A note on how rare these actually are, pre heresy not even the primarchs could commit exterminatus without the permission of the emperor.
Wasn't it that they needed his permission to use the life eater as I remember fulgrim ordering one in anger on a elder world I think in his book
LMAO no they didnt. They just had to explain why they couldn't take the world.
@@karlrichards7188 It may have been specifically the virus bomb. I remember a conversation of the few loyalist in the fleet right before Horus played his hand on isstvan debating if Horus even had the authority to use it as warmaster or not.
Reminds me of Konie Kruze and Peter Turbo, who legitimately thought that by doing an exterminatus, one of them on a rebel planet, their heads were going to be on the chopping block if they didn't rebel too.
The Gravemind spoke in iambic pentameter, I believe
Trochaic Heptameter actually
I wanna point out real fast, before he became a Lord High Admiral, Spire actually asked a Inquisitior (i dont remember the Inquisitior's name) if exterminatis really was necessary to which the Inquisitor more or less says that as much as he would prefer to not press the big red button, sometimes it truly is the only option (Battlefleet Gothic is the game)
That cutscene is on YT. Heresy is like a tree so when you think about it, radical inquisitors are just bonsai professionals.
Isn't there a minor Ordo within the Inquisition, the Ordo Excorium, that investigates whether the usage of Exterminatus was justified or not? If not, I guess that Inquisitor is kaput.
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Yes. 90-99% of the time, they excommunicate (A.K.A. put out a death warrant on) whoever put out the Exterminatus order. Thus, they aren't as prevalent as the jokes make them out to be, not every Inquisitor has committed one...
Edit: I don't think that Eisenhorn or Ravenor have ever needed Exterminatus, but I obviously could be wrong since a lot of their career happens "off-screen."
Inquisitor Kaput of the Ordo Excorium
@@jagnestormskull3178 Look up Inquisitor Kryptman who Extermatus so many systems as his overall war against Levianthan fleet as a Galactic Cordon to starve them out. He got excommunicated from Inquisition, but still had enough sway to put in a lure to set Levianthan to Octarius Sector and fight against the Ork Empire there. Unfortunately for everyone not Tyranids, they won and came out much stronger.
@@dyingearth I know about Kryptman. He coined the term "Tyranid" after the first planet that they were known to have struck on, Tyran. Although the First Tyrannic War was a success, that f--king idiot decided that it would be a good idea to put two unstoppable forces (Orks and Tyranids) against each other, and in the process of setting it up, destroyed something like twelve planets. Kryptman is a great example of an Inquisitor who used his Exterminatus power cruelly and wastefully, then got excommunicated for it.
As for the Octarius War, I thought that was still ongoing. Isn't Ghaz there now, trying to build up enough of a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! dat he can summon Gork an' Mork?
Yes, Kryptman still had a lot of political capital within the Ordo Xenos itself, excommunication isn't technically the be all and end all for an Inquisitor's career, but it's still a death warrant that any other Inquisitor can cash in on. _Ex-Inquisitor_ Kryptman is almost definitely constantly watching his back, even more than regular Inquisitors.
In another example (SPOILERS AHEAD FOR _The Magos_ and the _Bequin_ series), Eisenhorn had either been excommunicated or otherwise declared a Renegade/Heretic, but he still had enough political capital within the Ordos Scarus to get an Ordo Hereticus Interrogator (and more importantly, his Rosette) to join his crusade against the Cognitae, because that Ordo Hereticus guy believed them to be much more dangerous than one Inquisitor who just went off the reservation.
The Votann ship that dwarfs a planet reminds me of the Beast Planet from Shadow Raiders, an old 3d animated tv show from way back
Hah, "dwarfs".
15:08 to be entirely fair, NASA’s project Artemis (permanent moon base to support other planetary colonization) is under way, it’s just not yet at the point where it’s back on the moon
Im not sure how the Mayans could have predicted Captain Alessio Cortez of the Crimson Fists, but i bet itd be an interesting episode lol
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Week 18 of TALK ABOUT THE RAVEN GUARD YOU COWARDS! I'm not giving up yet!
Lmao way to reset the counter
It'll probably be a while before we get another Primarch episode but i hope the next one is Corvus Corax
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_Bring forth the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!_
If your looking for episode ideas: I’d love to see a Grey Knight episode!
+1
Yes
38:05 "Why didn't they predict Cortez?" They kinda did predict him. They had a prophecy that basically went "Our war god will come to us riding a beast of war we've never seen with an army equipped with weapons of war we've never seen". Cortez showed up on a horse followed by a lot of people in metal armor and bright cloth carrying muskets, so it was as close to the prophecy coming true as you could get. I don't remember whether their war god arriving was supposed to help or harm the Aztecs, but you get the idea.
Imagine if you gave the Sororitas the Power to Exterminatus...
Either they become less zealous because of the responsibility....or they become the exterminatus inquisitor meme
So...they become the Inquisition?
The big ship was The Sword of the God Emperor. In Godblight, they were prepared to use all the methods covered on one planet if Gman failed
44:23 The Holy Hand Grenade of Antiok, the number of the counting shall be 3, and the number of which you will count shall be 3. Not 1 less than 3 and not 1 more than 3 shall this counting be.
At the end of the first Farsight book, a space marines chapter master declares exterminatus on a world he had just lost control of. Specifically, he was going to fire one of the torpedoes. Farsight, having anticipated this, sent his AI buddy in a broadside battle suit up into space to shoot his railgun down the barrel of the imperium ship, detonating the torpedo inside the ship and wiping out the whole fleet.
Cyclonic Torpedoes kind of need atmosphere to work, so it might not even destroy the ship launching it, much less an entire fleet...
@@bubbasbigblast8563I guess the sheer detonation of such a large charge alone in a pressurised ship was pretty destructive. Then the rubles of the ship went crashing into the rest of the fleet.
Or maybe it's just an other case of "it sounds cool so let's roll with it"
@@mat5977 It's the latter. Even the complete destruction of every actual anti-ship torpedo in an Imperial ship just screws up the ship it's attached to, it won't reach out far enough to hit a nearby ship. It wouldn't even work with a Nova Cannon, cos those shells don't prime until moments after firing.
@@AGrumpyPanda If we're being technical a warp shell has a range of friendly fire in that it will destroy the ship firing it if it's too close to the target (this was a plot point in Lords of Silence) so some nova cannon rounds could destroy the ship. That said, this is karma for all the times the imperium have sacrificed a big ship by overloading the reactor to wipe out a whole fleet (or two in the tyrannid battle for Macragge). I would note that Talos fired several cyclonic torpedoes into a moon which was implied to be a dead rock so they can presumably still have some impact if not as destructive when an atmosphere is lacking (it may have had an atmosphere but it was never mentioned).
@@consolescrub4031 Lords of Silence is referring to a specific variant nova cannon round then, rather than the standard munition.
Ah perfect. I got my McD's. I'm tipsy from two big beers. And I get to chill to you two talking about *planetary extinction technologies*. Perfect way to start my two days off.
Did I just hear JOINING CHAOS?! Uh ooooh!
SMASH IT!
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THATS IT LADS, ROCK AND STONE
"Subordinate."
"Yes officer."
"See that planet over there?"
"Yes officer."
_"I don't want to."_
...
*_"Understood officer."_*
Finally, I was looking forward for an episode about the exterminatus.
6:50 "heretical, chaos infected, genestealer cults... something like that" I worry DK read Inquisitor *shudder*
One of the main reasons exterminatus is avoided is simple: there's a finite number of useful planets and exterminatus reduces that number.
Men, we have orders to perform Exterminatus upon this world. Prepare "The Emperor's Favorite Bone" to fire.
YO! Radiation affects machinery, especially electronics! Bad, rad is bad, no go, stay away ad mech-bad toaster boy with yer giger screams
34:08 “You can’t just blast a hole in the surface of Mars!”
Kryptmen: Observe…
Initiate destruction of this location. Order Buster Call... I mean Exterminatus.
Not sure how canon it is, but you can exterminatis from your flagship in ChaosGate. Grey Knights seem like the type to have reason to drop cyclonic torpedos as part of their scorched earth tactic
Dark Angels used to have some ridiculous planet killers hiding out in the Dreadwings arsenal, but that was Horus Heresy. Personal favorite was the Phosphorex bombs, angry nanotech white phosphorus that hunts down any living thing in an area that is either ridiculously toxic once it runs out of steam or goes dormant and reactivates when people get close. For some reason, they made a planet sizes version. Also, Virus Bombs fell out of favor after the Heresy. Apparently, Nurlge's boys love the stuff and may have tricked the Inquisition into making a few Daemon Worlds for them.
Phosphex is a funny one, 'cause earlier in the Crusade, all the Legions had it. But the stuff is so horrific that its production was banned and only the DA had access to the remaining stock. Yea, it is THAT bad.
to bring a counterpoint about the Space Marine's version of Exterminatus being "meh", what's more Space Marine-y than turning a "simple" artillery order into an epic escort mission / TF2 Payload match?
I got my very first mini today!
Cannot wait to build an entire army.
@37:10 the world did end in 2012. Has anyone truly felt alive since?
I believe when you hit the billions the announcer just says 'Exterminatus!'
22:50 Now that Diablo 4 is out it would be cool to see DK play Warhammer Inquisitor so he gets some quick context to how an inquisitor works, the weird stuff they fight against, the classified information they live with and the like.
you guys missing one, pre heresy: sending the world eaters. they exterminatus manually
Ah yes my favorite character in Warhammer 40k.
Joe Exterminatus
votan should have like a planet accelerator that basicly propels the planet killing and icing everything while it travels to votan controled space to be mined
those quotes are 2 of my favorites . Thank you for all of the entertainment.
The foot of the emperor, when the emperor finally puts his foot down and shoots a planet with a giant gun
Could we have an episode about absurd fan creations such as Angry Marines or Brighthammer?
Cortez was the Aztecs… Mayans died off for reasons we don’t know. I don’t want to be the guy the keeps saying these things but first the Greek thing in the Ferrus episode now this, I don’t want to be this person.
eyyy, nice tri-tach reference at 15:20 brickman!
"Contain Nurgle"
lmao, he sure does love watching people try
Ahh yes virus bomb-kun the "very distant" cousin of truck-kun and I mean "very distant" cousin.
The trick with virus bombs and Tyrannids is that you'd have to cut them off from their main hive so they couldn't relay back sensory data of the event. You could easily wipe out an invasion fleet on the surface with virus bombs because of how swiftly the virus works, but if their bodies can transmit the data of their fleeting fight against that virus, then they might be able to adapt to it so that the virus bomb wouldn't be effective in future. Otherwise you could only use it once against them, forever.
Essentially this risk means that using more conventional or alternative methods is likely preferred against tyrannids.
Unless you're doing the based Kryptman thing where you're denying their food supply ahead of the invasion.
"I didn't bomb that orphanage, I cancelled the enemy's preorder"
i know its been a year, but in space marine 2 they virus bomb the tyranids at the very start and they shrug it off in hours.
About virus bombing usage: virus - disease - Grandpa Nurgle likes those very much.
Yeah but Virus Bombs by design leave nothing behind to regrow. Papa Nurgle does not approve.
Nurgle's gifts always bring about rebirth and new life in some form or another, he is the god of nature and life after all. An Imperial virus bomb wipes out all life in minutes, Nurgle actually hates them. They break the cycle of life and destroy his work plus the life eater virus has no ability to reproduce. A single use virus that can't spread, Nurgle has no use for such things.
You forgot phosphex and that one time the ultra marines cried bc they were forced to use it
Inquisitors are all evil, not all stupid
"Who says 'no' to the Inquisition and lives to tell the tale?"
The Space Wolves outright told the Inquisition and the High Lords of Terra to go fuck themselves after the First War of Armageddon.
The one thing that brought me to 40k was me leaving star wars fandom.
I am sure I can be a weirdo and cite Disney, but in truth I just preferred Legends. I love the Super Weapons we saw in the Old Republic and beyond Era and of course I love the Death Star. So in 40k, I looked long and hard to grasp onto something in the lore I loved. That was Exterminatus
‘Exterminatus’ is like a permanent smite from god, but in science fantasy future. You never see it coming. 💡
But when you do, it was probably because someone was a whacko on the surface and tried to summon a tentacle daemon. This is the way.
*drinks one last cup of recaf while I await the Emperor’s mercy.* ☕️
I genuinely think that they just screw around in the beginning until bricky thinks of a suitable segway
Tremble before the magesty of the Emperor, for we all walk in His immortal shadow!
In the first Farsight book he fights off against a space marine chapter known as the scar lords who decide to exterminatus the planet farsight's people are on, so he flys his battlesuit up to the ship in stealth mode and just shoots the torpedo while its in the launch tube, blowing up the whole chapter in their command ship lmao
Are there creatures in the warp that even the chaos gods want to avoid attracting their attention?
I don't want to know what Nurgle's Sleep Paralysis Demon looks like.
@@__-tp4tm Probably just Mr. Clean.
@@__-tp4tm probably virophages. Virophages are tiny virusses that infect larger virusses. To put it simply: it is the diseases' disease.
Getting infected with a virophage while you're suffering a viral infection actually makes you get better faster as the virophage infects the virus and prevents it from reproducing.
Probably not, but there are things in reality that make them VERY nervous: Blanks. Because a sufficiently potent blank, like a Culexus, can do something alsmost nothing else can: grant a daemon true death. For immortal creatures, that is just about the scariest damn thing out there.
I guess the Tyranid Hive Mind, everything else is just a guppy compared to them.
Funny how you brought up that Luetin video. I literally rewatched it yesterday.
For some reason, the episode didn't come out on Spotify today or is just late.
Exterminatus is one of the spots where grimdark and grimdumb intersect: because while it's totally badass that one bloodthirsty Inquisitor can order an entire planet be destroyed, when you think about the practicality of actually doing that it falls appart.
It makes the most sense against a Tyranid situation especially if the biosphere collapses and it's just more effort than it'd be possibly worth defending one planet as opposed to several when a tendril is on the rise. Otherwise? Maybe for like heavy chaos shenanigans where the planet is pretty much already gone so might as well take it out but situations like Darktide wouldn't warrant one
It really dependson the situation and there certainly are circumstances where nothing but exterminatus will suffice.
Love hearing about your patreon getting to 20k and then merch and then an ad.
What is the patteon for if your still doing ads?
Bicky in fiction lore: big brain
Bricky in irl lore: small brain
Votann just disassemble planets to stripmine them. Sometimes they evacuate the citizens, sometimes they don't. Depends on if they offended the Kin
The absolute best part about Roks is that even after the earth-shattering blow of a city-sized asteroid (or even several) striking the surface of the planet, any part of it that is still remotely intact will still be absolutely CRAWLING with orks, who will almost immediately begin pouring out of the thing and going to town on whoever is still alive.
Time to break out the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator! 😈
31:03 Also it got used on Tallarn. There was a network of tunnels that most of the population hid in to escape. Then they had to fight Iron Warriors
Ask the Inquisitor who was talking smack to Ultramarines Chief Librarian how much power they really have. Maybe he can give you "a hand"
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On the subject of space colonial efforts, I can recc Powers of the Earth by Travis Coccoran.
Space libertarians colonizing the moon with converted cargo ships. If you like hard scifi, detail oriented procedurals, and anti corpro/gubbermint sentiment; read it.
Pretty sure that Traitor’s Bane is the name of an assault cannon skin in the Deathwing game.
Theres the phalanx that, being the size of a small moon, can doomboom a planet easily.
46:06 : THE Hand of Dorne ? The skull of ferrus the mannus ? Bricky’s memories 😅
The Ifunny watermark under the picture of Bricky hits like a truck
I always thought that exterminatus was just some dude with giant red button with exterminatus on it that they press when they sensed 000.1% heresy
Orks also used moons that messed up a planet's gravity in the War of the Beast. They did this to several planets.
I was also surprised not to hear talk about the Black Fortresses since they are 1 ship planet killers.
I think back to when I read the flight of the Eisenstein and just having a face of absolute horror as I was reading with a life eater virus can do.
TRI-TACHYON, HE SAID A STARSECTOR REFERENCE!!!
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GW were contemporaries to Eldritch Wizardry
they made the grell
grell are green btw
As for the elite Marine strike force sabotaging the planet's own reactors? That was a thing. The Carharodons did that to Badab Prime's. Woulda been nice if the Guramarines warned the other forces to get evac ready ahead of time.
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We love warpstorm rifts
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The Star Wars equivalent to an Exterminatus isn't the Deathstar, it's a naval procedure called Base Delta Zero.
IIRC this can be done by any capital ship mounting heavy turbolasers, with a single ISD able to complete the bombardment in 3hrs, though normally a squadron of 3 are used.
I feel like the best Inquisitor I've been exposed to is Inquisitor Harkin in the "Imperator: Wrath of the Omnissiah" novel. He's quite calm when pressed about why people shouldn't trust an Inquisitor and is aware of the inherent logical fallacy of presenting a symbol that immediately demands loyalty and obedience as the end-all-be-all as to why one should submit to an Inquisitor's authority.
Virus bombs arent used often , because you need special facilities to produce it and as you said its an surface weapon so its not effective against high grade bunkers or even Necron tomb complexes , there are even special strains of the life-eater that are only targeting "special" lifeforms but those are allegedly even more rare , but you better ask Luetin about those tbh :)