I just don't like how immobile you are when you have to fight in this game. Standing there and parrying feels like the only way to play. I was hoping from the teaser that this game would be more Bloodborne inspired, with a focus on evasion styled gameplay. So many of these new Souls-likes are so focused on tight deflection windows, which limits movement.
There's a huge issue with animation quality in this game. Like, your animations are too slow but start too quickly, so you have neither the right weight to your attacks because the momentum is all messy nor the impact of a hit with proper velocity. That paired with the really weak stagger animations, sound effects and visual effects just makes all your hits feel like you're defeating an enemy with an oversized pool noodle even when using a huge weapon. It's a mess and it'll be dead on arrival at this level of quality.
@@mr.ashenfire2624yea it’s like an unfinished product rn like there’s a lot of very small things but it all adds up and slowly makes u go “this looks like ass”
I noticed it in the demo but thought it'd get sorted. Clearly they spent too much money on marketing and not enough on the actual game. It gives me Steel Rising vibes - not a TERRIBLE game by any means, but not to dark souls or Lies of P standards.
the idea of the game is SO cool, i kinda wish it was remade/added onto in its entirety, its storyline could have potential to rival sekiro if its gameplay was equally as good
Good parts and bad parts. The art direction was super clean. Great voice acting, cool locations. I love the Italian theme. Should've waited till Christmas or next year to release it, it had good bones but that wasn't enough
Yeah, making a good soulslike is hard. Which is why Lies of P is so impressive because it really feels like a From Soft game that lacks all the jank of something like Lords of the Fallen or many other soulslikes.
@@FreakyHimmelif ur talking about lies of p then yes tho idk how much gameplay 2 hours is for you but I was enjoying it very much after like the first chapter and it only gets better
@@FreakyHimmel It really does get better. Like with other souls games, the more you progress and level up, the more fun it gets. You'll unlock new legion abilities, new weapons, new mechanics and upgrades etc. It's such an amazing game.
It's hard for souls like fans to accept that 90% of souls likes just aren't actually good. Fromsoft's are usually good, outside that you can easily count the ones that aren't just a mess of clunky mechanics, insta kill traps everywhere, and a hatred of everything that isn't dark
@@terryliliana 100% agreed, Tbf, I think that's totally to be expected though when with soulslikes there's just so much to think about during game design haha
"This New Souls Game Isn't As Bad As People Are Saying" At the same time, the hardest part of the game for Charlie is not falling asleep Edit: Looks like he changed the titel of the video, lol
And now the title has been changed to "New souls-like game is mid" 😂 Honestly, this looks boring at least to me + the fact that after visceral the enemies are dmg immune is just stupid.
@@Joni_Tarvainenabout the only interesting thing is Charlie updating us on him getting a plastic crack addiction with 40k and getting his dad involved too, lol. God I wish he did a stream of him just watching 40k lore videos. I know he thinks reading is boring as shit but maybe the 40k audiobooks could hold his attention.
@@derpstick5467 When he mentioned that in the beginning, I couldn't but smile and feel happy for him when he said that his dad got into it too. I think Charlie has said few times that he has been binging 40K lore videos from Luetin and Bricky, so I would think that something like Helsreach would work super well as an introductory audiobook to what those books can provide. Maybe The Infinite and Divine as well. I'm just wondering which minis he has bought 'cause he didn't mention any chapter nor faction, but if he were to stream the painting stuff I for sure would be tuning in!
There's something beautiful about the fact I haven't played a Souls since Elden Ring but perfectly timed deciding to pick Lies of P back up at the same time you're doing the Souls thing again. I bought deluxe edition just to get stuck on Parade Master then put it down, but now that I've picked it back up, I've already passed the cathedral.
I had the same experience recently with Sekiro. Got stuck on Gyoubu and dropped it 2 years ago. Picked it up again after beating Lies of P and I'm at the first Owl fight now
tbh a good combat and good fight will make you forgive or even appreciate the long hp bar perhaps. but this game, you can sleep from start to finish cuz all the enemies kinda swing and hit the same way and it is just extremely repetitive and boring
50USD is a scam imo. Should've been 20-25 like the quality of the game. Theres better ones for less out there right this second. The lack of variety in combat and enemy variety is bad.
I’m stuck in a bug in this game. It won’t let me progress past the boss barrier even though I killed the boss. My game crashed straight after I killed him
@@zakomimi4185 When you enter a boss fight there’s walls that appear at the entrance and exit of the arena. Once I killed the boss (think it was the final gatekeeper) my game crashed and when I reload it, if I enter the boss area, he’s not there but the walls appear which prevents me from progressing the game. So frustrating.
what you want to do is quit to the main menu while you're in the boss room. make sure you leave the boss room in any direction that isn't the way you came in. I had it happen and that worked for me (if you got it from the stone golem boss then you might need to do it multipole times after exiting since it's a 4 way exit).
I really love the italian voice acting in this. As a half-italian (whole extended family only speak italian or spanish), it's really nice to hear it and be able to understand what they're saying and feel more authentic. The va is really good in italian. Also, because i play all games in the original language (mostly english), with subtitles, and since english is my primary language, it's refreshing to hear something different.
depends on the enemies obviously, but most of the time i see people say this they're not using an element that the enemy is weak to and/or using the one it's resistant or even immune to.
@@Cybertruck2022 If a boss takes 25 minutes to defeat then we should probably look at what the whole build is like instead of immediately chalking it up to them being tanky. It's the same as people blaming Elden Ring for being hard when they refuse to get Scadutree fragments
@@spub1031 nah it’s not. Fighting radahn with no scadutree fragments means doing 50%~ less damage, and taking almost 100% more. A skilled player is still able to take down radahn with no fragments in under 15 minutes. Faster if they are just really good at parrying, reflex blocking, or dodging, and don’t need to worry about being too defensive. Even on my solo run against Radahn, scadutree level 17, it took about 4.5 minutes on my winning attempt. Boss fights taking this long (25 minutes) in a souls like, even in an unoptimized build, is different than it taking that long in a fighting game like final fantasy 16. Any moment could be your last in a souls like, and to have to work your way up from the start again with all that pressure on you, knowing it’s going to take at least 20 minutes to get where you were before. Good souls like bosses to me shouldn’t last more than 10 minutes, but that’s just my 2 cents on the matter. It’s entirely possible that this game was going for something different.
@@spub1031Funny considering it takes 30 minutes to beat consort radahn with RL1, +0 weapon and no status effects on ng+ 7. Not sure if scadu fragments but even with those you need to realize how crazy tanky bosses are at ng+ 7.
this looks like it wanted to be Lies of P so bad, but doesn't have anything that made Lies of P actually good, instead we're stuck with a vaguely sekiro-inspired game set in italy, where the main character has a metal arm
What I gather from this footage is that the game suffers from "let's give bosses a gigantic fucking healthbar to make it more difficult" syndrome. All it accomplishes is making the game more tedious, especially if nothing changes in the moveset.
The healthbars are not actually that big. They're just EXTREMELY intent on forcing you to use the right element. Almost every enemy in the game resists physical damage to the point that using their own element against them is directly better.
@nigh6374 yeah like it's not actually bad on its own but when it plays for EVERY fight it becomes so hard to listen to 😭 the singing especially gets old quick
The game is not great, but at least is not a complete disaster. I expected much worse since in Italy we dont have a big game development history, and often these ambitios projects just get abandoned.
It's Italian Dark Souls where everyone bleeds Chinotto, health items are all Arancini and every boss encounter begins with everyone taunting each other with Sta Minchia gestures.
I'll consider buying it after they finish the game, kinda weird that they released it with a roadmap of pretty big changes that won't be done until 2025.
Indie and AA being mosty affected, You knew its getting flack from the darksouls community if the game plays and looks different than what people got used to. But justifiably so if the game does had issues, like lack of mobility making the combat isnt that engaging.
@@Half_Bl00d_H3R0lol no you don’t. You can rip assets and steal them which op is talking about. You don’t ALWAYS make a game from stratch. That’s just a little naive
@@Half_Bl00d_H3R0 omg you absolute lobotomites still use this argument in the face of surface level criticism????? Do not act like games are a protected art form, and DEFINITELY dont act high and mighty by pretending you havent critiqued anything ever in your life.
Last boss is programmed to respond to your actions, when he sits still he is waiting to counter which it does pretty well actually but it also opens him up for ai glitch
I don’t think I’ve seen such janky movements in a game this new like ever. It’s more like stand completely still souls by the looks of it. Shit looks so repetitive and boring
It's clearly very undercooked game. They said theyre gonna fix a lot of issues so hopefully game reaches its potential by next year but boy why the hell did they release game in glorified early access state I'll never know.
It’s obviously bad, just kinda surprised that he couldn’t say it. “Bosses break entirely, and even when they work, their move sets are duller and more repetitive than Dark Souls 2 enemies.” = mid Saying a piece of media is “alright” is just worthless, you might as well not say anything about it. A creator can’t do much with “it’s ok”, they need critical feedback.
Watching this 1.5 hours in and my main takeaway is just that the scope of the game was too big, if they made the game half as large but twice as detailed, maybe more than twice for combat music😂
i wish i could say it was but man was it really bad when it launched. props to the devs for working to fix it all but by that time it was too late. game is okay for what it is but there is no compelling story in it and all the movements are not fluid, but goofy.
As someone who beat the game in a stomp because I immediately went for an elemental build, the balance is absolutely woeful. By spamming mask lines (abilities) and having a build that consisted of relatively spread out stats, weapon infusions (you only need one at a time, because the game's areas' main weaknesses are pretty obvious, and the degree of 'use the right thing or screw you' is so high that even just infusing a weapon of the wrong element with the right one can make a dramatic difference) and having mask lines recover quicker when my weapons are infused allowed me to recover them back to back and do several thousand damage to even the hardest bosses, while also building up massive poise. Physical damage gets a few hundred per hit and literally nothing else.
It seems like every gamer watches the credit at the end of any game the first time. Gotta give the guys some credit for making a decent game. It could be worse for sure, they could probably patch quite a bit.
This game looks like one of those unity asset games that Charlie plays during bad games night. It's crazy cause they spent so much on advertisement and marketing, when they could've poured more bucks into making this game.
Imagine playing a souls game from the POV of a big bad, just randomly going about your day when a small person randomly decides to trespass on your place or accost you as you are running errands.
@@khaalmalki4039 there's Souls-likes that everyone can agree that are straight up boring or bad (Mortal Shell). This game, however is pretty damn enjoyable for me at least. I'm not going to like and say the game is in a finished state but there are people that will hate this game because From Soft didn't make it and other people won't even look at Enotria because of those takes.
@@outlastingflame1614Too much ds 2 slandering within fromsoft community so people think it's actually bad when actually it's probably just worst of fromsoft games, meaning it's still a good game lol
@@420.Outcast They are about same level for me. Hard to compare when they excel at different things. DS2 has more forgettable bosses but weapon variety is better. Some questionable design choices but also some great stuff like way better new game plus + bonfire ascetics. Those things should be in other games too My personal take is that ds3 > ds1 and ds2 mainly because bosses are so good and combat is less clunky
This looks like something we've seen 10,000 times already. It has the Soulslike look and mechanics but there's not much beyond the setting to differentiate it from a sea of over-motion blurred and strangely cheap-feeling Dark Souls wannabes.
It's soulless because the devs seem to have no personal attachment to the game but only made it because soulslikes/soulslite are at a rise. I love me some banger indies but they often pander to nostalgia or make the most derivative slop. (I DON'T HATE INDIES!!!)
Trust me... it's not soulless. Here in italy we've been hearing about this project for years, the people behind this game have been working on it for almost a decade and they were putting their heart on it, in reality the problem is the exact opposite, the devs were so passionate about it that it became too ambitious for its own good, and it ended up being kind of an unpolished game.
I wasnt really until MTG under Charlie started getting into it. He got me hooked especially with his skill check channel. I was super into 40k though, and im so glad Charlie is now getting into that as well. Soon he will have no money but a huge 100,000 point army.
@@SeaDubya eh if I say a burger I had was not too bad the tone I would imagine is oh wow that wasn’t too bad I’d have it again whereas if I said it was mid you’d definitely think I meant it deadpan.
isnt it kinda funny ur not talking about the situation with jimmy and are choosing to delete comments instead? i thought you said you would stop being friends with someone if they were exposed for bad things...
didn't he mention how he no longer wants to cover 'serious' drama? correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there's anything wrong with doing so, not covering said drama doesn't exactly mean he's friends with him or anything, we don't know his personal life. As for the deleting comments part I haven't seen that myself but if that's true then that is pretty disappointing.
It seems like a solid foundation but it looks more like an early access that hasnt finalised its player controller or added visual oomph. A massive part of soulslikes is the subtle emphasis on meneuverability and the scary powerful strikes of bosses that form a visually stunning and mechanically tense ganeplay loop. This looks very bland by comparison. Lots of you and your opponents standing in each others face trading blows with little weight behind each swing, or movement to spice up the downtime between attacks, and nothing the player or enemies do feels chunky or has any finesse. Expectations need to be lowered for more indie styled projects ofc, and as memtioned they have a solid baseline, but a lot of work needs to be put in imho. As it stands, they might not end up with as many sales as they mightve expected because it doesnt look engaging, leaving them with the choice of giving up or sitting down and actively taking on player feedback to make a good game around their unique premise and selling point.
He changed the title because all the kids in the comment section assumed he was saying the game was good when he said it was mid multiple times. Not his fault that you guys have bad reading comprehension.
Completely agree art design is bad and every time I clicked on his stream whenever he killed someone the exact same death animation played. Souls games are so over concentrated as well.
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Cant believe Charlie is the ice truck killer
Blus watches too much dexter
Biney?
Even here bruh 😭
@@APotatoManthe Dexter brainrot is leaking into actual videos now bro😭
Rudy Cooper lookin ass
Disappointed in the lack of Gabaghouls
Same
There'se wine and Pizza. Call me a satisfied italian.
Really missing a shah of iran or 2.
made me giggle
Your character probably did 20 years in the can.
I just don't like how immobile you are when you have to fight in this game. Standing there and parrying feels like the only way to play. I was hoping from the teaser that this game would be more Bloodborne inspired, with a focus on evasion styled gameplay. So many of these new Souls-likes are so focused on tight deflection windows, which limits movement.
yeah its very parry heavy which I think sucks
@@patrickboian8545get gud…
You mean....like dark souls?
@@MrSalo-meinThey aren’t saying it’s hard for them to parry, they’re saying it’s one dimensional and boring. Get gud at comprehension
@@stwish3910 oohhhh my English is bad… I get it. Plus I like using “get gud” whenever I have the chance so, I pounced on it, too eager.
I like how Charlie thought he was not going to finish the game until he switched builds.
Is my music good? I wish to grow better
Imagine the basement dwelling turtle neck nerd that created this bot ^
There's a huge issue with animation quality in this game. Like, your animations are too slow but start too quickly, so you have neither the right weight to your attacks because the momentum is all messy nor the impact of a hit with proper velocity. That paired with the really weak stagger animations, sound effects and visual effects just makes all your hits feel like you're defeating an enemy with an oversized pool noodle even when using a huge weapon.
It's a mess and it'll be dead on arrival at this level of quality.
It honestly feels like a clankier Dark Souls 1 system. It's too bad. Because the premise, story, and music are all very well done.
@@mr.ashenfire2624yea it’s like an unfinished product rn like there’s a lot of very small things but it all adds up and slowly makes u go “this looks like ass”
I like your magic words
I noticed it in the demo but thought it'd get sorted. Clearly they spent too much money on marketing and not enough on the actual game. It gives me Steel Rising vibes - not a TERRIBLE game by any means, but not to dark souls or Lies of P standards.
the idea of the game is SO cool, i kinda wish it was remade/added onto in its entirety, its storyline could have potential to rival sekiro if its gameplay was equally as good
There are three constants in life:
Death, taxes, and that those who get into 40k inevitably get into mini painting.
Is my music good? I wish to grow better
@@OfficialJalenSmith no
Nah man im just into 40k for the lore hahahah right right?
I got into mini painting from gundam lol
@@alexgetrekt Don't feed the trolls
Game definitely needed more months in the workshop. Some parts look and feels unfinished
They kinda outright admitted it was unfinished when they released a roadmap of substantial changes to come in the following months.
thats really the norm now huh, God forbid someone releases a finished game 😅
@@whytakeroninsenpaiIt's really a blessing nowadays to get a finished game.
Good parts and bad parts. The art direction was super clean. Great voice acting, cool locations. I love the Italian theme. Should've waited till Christmas or next year to release it, it had good bones but that wasn't enough
@@waterbottles393 a shame. I hope it improves. Im willing to give a good story a chance.
Yeah, making a good soulslike is hard. Which is why Lies of P is so impressive because it really feels like a From Soft game that lacks all the jank of something like Lords of the Fallen or many other soulslikes.
Probably because it was also developed by an Asian studio
does it get better past the first 2 hours? Cuz those first 2 hours were mad boring I dropped it
@@FreakyHimmelif ur talking about lies of p then yes tho idk how much gameplay 2 hours is for you but I was enjoying it very much after like the first chapter and it only gets better
@@FreakyHimmel It really does get better. Like with other souls games, the more you progress and level up, the more fun it gets. You'll unlock new legion abilities, new weapons, new mechanics and upgrades etc. It's such an amazing game.
i didn’t like it :/
Where's Canada souls where you don't kill or fight, you just talk around every encounter.
Undertale Soulslike
Is my music good? I wish to grow better
That’s just undertale lmao
Planescape Torment 😛
and then get sued and imprisoned for saying the wrong thing
The souls game situation is insane
First that stupid monkey game and now even more stupider italian folklore game 👺
@Speaker2400-m5iyou’re a loser
The souls game imitator is gay.
There's been so many this year! lies of p and another crab's treasure were really fucking good. i'm gonna try this one too, it looks fun
Is my music good? I wish to grow better
It's hard for souls like fans to accept that 90% of souls likes just aren't actually good.
Fromsoft's are usually good, outside that you can easily count the ones that aren't just a mess of clunky mechanics, insta kill traps everywhere, and a hatred of everything that isn't dark
I picked up mortal shell for free and i had seen lots of praise for it. I played it and after 2 hours got fed up with how had it was
@@wojakc7745 souls likes also get hype and praise just for being souls likes, ignoring the flaws.
@@terryliliana 100% agreed, Tbf, I think that's totally to be expected though when with soulslikes there's just so much to think about during game design haha
They also rarely improve or differentiate I swear these games look identical to each other, even the voice acting is the same
@@wojakc7745 mortal shell had a interesting concept but poor game world, boring enemies to fight and no depth.
Bro is buying 40k miniatures : you known son once you start theres no going back.
When does he talk about it?
@@ferretyluv Beginning of the video I'm p sure
"This New Souls Game Isn't As Bad As People Are Saying"
At the same time, the hardest part of the game for Charlie is not falling asleep
Edit: Looks like he changed the titel of the video, lol
Is my music good? I wish to grow better
And now the title has been changed to "New souls-like game is mid" 😂
Honestly, this looks boring at least to me + the fact that after visceral the enemies are dmg immune is just stupid.
Too many games which focus on being good enough in everything but end up not excelling at anything in particular.
@@Joni_Tarvainenabout the only interesting thing is Charlie updating us on him getting a plastic crack addiction with 40k and getting his dad involved too, lol. God I wish he did a stream of him just watching 40k lore videos. I know he thinks reading is boring as shit but maybe the 40k audiobooks could hold his attention.
@@derpstick5467 When he mentioned that in the beginning, I couldn't but smile and feel happy for him when he said that his dad got into it too.
I think Charlie has said few times that he has been binging 40K lore videos from Luetin and Bricky, so I would think that something like Helsreach would work super well as an introductory audiobook to what those books can provide. Maybe The Infinite and Divine as well.
I'm just wondering which minis he has bought 'cause he didn't mention any chapter nor faction, but if he were to stream the painting stuff I for sure would be tuning in!
There's something beautiful about the fact I haven't played a Souls since Elden Ring but perfectly timed deciding to pick Lies of P back up at the same time you're doing the Souls thing again. I bought deluxe edition just to get stuck on Parade Master then put it down, but now that I've picked it back up, I've already passed the cathedral.
Classic Soulslike experience
Being stuck on parade master is crazy
I had the same experience recently with Sekiro. Got stuck on Gyoubu and dropped it 2 years ago. Picked it up again after beating Lies of P and I'm at the first Owl fight now
i had to put down sekiro before i got a new controller, dodging with shift on keyboard was unbearable for me
Cathedral was so aids my first run. Ive beaten several mario and crash bandicoot games but that platforming had me raging like I was a kid again lol.
Anyone else come here to read the comments after watching the Mid video?
Yep.
Why are all the enemies so goddamn tanky? This is what makes most games so unfun, it takes 10 years to kill anything.
Charlie also admitted to putting no stat points into damage so that could be part of it
tbh a good combat and good fight will make you forgive or even appreciate the long hp bar perhaps. but this game, you can sleep from start to finish cuz all the enemies kinda swing and hit the same way and it is just extremely repetitive and boring
Still no dark souls replay video
Same, i was looking forward to the Dark Souls 1 playthrough/video
The 'This New Souls Game Isnt As Bad As People Are Saying' Situation is Crazy
I knew he changed the title bruh
50USD is a scam imo.
Should've been 20-25 like the quality of the game.
Theres better ones for less out there right this second.
The lack of variety in combat and enemy variety is bad.
I’m stuck in a bug in this game. It won’t let me progress past the boss barrier even though I killed the boss. My game crashed straight after I killed him
Wait actually softlocked?
@@zakomimi4185 When you enter a boss fight there’s walls that appear at the entrance and exit of the arena. Once I killed the boss (think it was the final gatekeeper) my game crashed and when I reload it, if I enter the boss area, he’s not there but the walls appear which prevents me from progressing the game. So frustrating.
@@crow2967 well that's annoying. Hope they fix the bug soon
@@zakomimi4185 thanks dude, me too
what you want to do is quit to the main menu while you're in the boss room. make sure you leave the boss room in any direction that isn't the way you came in. I had it happen and that worked for me (if you got it from the stone golem boss then you might need to do it multipole times after exiting since it's a 4 way exit).
I really love the italian voice acting in this. As a half-italian (whole extended family only speak italian or spanish), it's really nice to hear it and be able to understand what they're saying and feel more authentic. The va is really good in italian.
Also, because i play all games in the original language (mostly english), with subtitles, and since english is my primary language, it's refreshing to hear something different.
Lmao the playable character just walking up to the lute half-ragdolled sums up the game perfectly
This game shouldn’t be more than 15 dollars. It’s definitely not finished.
Yeah. $50 is way too much for how janky it is
@@jackson29211 yeah it's like 20-30 ish max
Just looking at it, enemies just appear way too tanky, like they’re geared around you being way faster.
depends on the enemies obviously, but most of the time i see people say this they're not using an element that the enemy is weak to and/or using the one it's resistant or even immune to.
@@spub1031that shouldn’t be justification for a boss fight taking 25 minutes though.
The gos of strife Vithra was painful just to watch.
@@Cybertruck2022 If a boss takes 25 minutes to defeat then we should probably look at what the whole build is like instead of immediately chalking it up to them being tanky. It's the same as people blaming Elden Ring for being hard when they refuse to get Scadutree fragments
@@spub1031 nah it’s not. Fighting radahn with no scadutree fragments means doing 50%~ less damage, and taking almost 100% more.
A skilled player is still able to take down radahn with no fragments in under 15 minutes.
Faster if they are just really good at parrying, reflex blocking, or dodging, and don’t need to worry about being too defensive.
Even on my solo run against Radahn, scadutree level 17, it took about 4.5 minutes on my winning attempt.
Boss fights taking this long (25 minutes) in a souls like, even in an unoptimized build, is different than it taking that long in a fighting game like final fantasy 16. Any moment could be your last in a souls like, and to have to work your way up from the start again with all that pressure on you, knowing it’s going to take at least 20 minutes to get where you were before.
Good souls like bosses to me shouldn’t last more than 10 minutes, but that’s just my 2 cents on the matter. It’s entirely possible that this game was going for something different.
@@spub1031Funny considering it takes 30 minutes to beat consort radahn with RL1, +0 weapon and no status effects on ng+ 7. Not sure if scadu fragments but even with those you need to realize how crazy tanky bosses are at ng+ 7.
this looks like it wanted to be Lies of P so bad, but doesn't have anything that made Lies of P actually good, instead we're stuck with a vaguely sekiro-inspired game set in italy, where the main character has a metal arm
People really just made a game with sponge enemies, a parry, dodge and then call it a souls-like
That’s weird I could’ve sworn the title was different
It was, I'm watching pre title change
Yea, he changed the title
Because people were to dumb to understand the original title. He made a vid on it
@@crankfastle8138 what was the old title
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 "This souls like isn't as bad as people say"
What I gather from this footage is that the game suffers from "let's give bosses a gigantic fucking healthbar to make it more difficult" syndrome. All it accomplishes is making the game more tedious, especially if nothing changes in the moveset.
The healthbars are not actually that big. They're just EXTREMELY intent on forcing you to use the right element. Almost every enemy in the game resists physical damage to the point that using their own element against them is directly better.
@@magila7802 Eh, that sounds even worse tbh. Feels like there is little room for experimentation.
not enough “im walking here!”’s
2 meatballs outta 5
I hope the gamedev improve the animation of the game and the game mechanics and the movement of the game.
Same. I really love what they’re going for and want them to succeed. This is their first game, so maybe they’ll learn from this.
why did they not bother making a single other song to use in ANY of these fights??? the battle music is unbearable
Lalalalalaleleeleeleela!
First 3 times: "oh this song hit hard" after that i wish he muted it
@nigh6374 yeah like it's not actually bad on its own but when it plays for EVERY fight it becomes so hard to listen to 😭 the singing especially gets old quick
@@putriscool its like the witcher 3 ost but only the bad part which makes it unbearable
I wish they had a variety of songs to fit each boss fight.
The game is not great, but at least is not a complete disaster.
I expected much worse since in Italy we dont have a big game development history, and often these ambitios projects just get abandoned.
It's like 90% of the effort and budget went into a handful of the boss movesets. The rest of the game is just plain bad.
Pros: Art design, music, UI design, voice acting, sfx, vfx
Cons: Combat, boss design, enemy design, boss & and enemy placement, level design, weapons and skills
Bro got bullied into changing the title again
So stupid
THIS IS THE GREATEST TITLE CHANGE OF ALL TIME
Cant believe Charlie was caught at the Diddy party
atleast he was doin the fuckin on diddy booty
Literally shaking and crying rn
I hope youtube puts an end to that one bot replying "i just uploaded a video of woman.."
I get physically angry from that comment and whoever came up with the idea to spam it
@@MelchVagquest bros balling his fists with rage over ragebait bot comments
@MelchVagquest just report it and get on with life. No need for dramatics.
@@archerj2010 He wasn't being literal, it's a hyperbole
“Maybe The Real Treasure Was the Mid We Made Along the Way."
As a game dev that ending is embarrassing...that's not how it was supposed to go
Short answer: yes
They will sing songs of the legendary duel between Charles the Parry God and the giant crab lmao
the music is way too intense for how boring these fights are.
2:04:35 I'M PRETTY SURE THIS ENDING CUTSCENE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS 😂
It's Italian Dark Souls where everyone bleeds Chinotto, health items are all Arancini and every boss encounter begins with everyone taunting each other with Sta Minchia gestures.
the visuals on the game look great but the combat looks terrible compared to other souls games, i can see the criticism
-Mom, can we get Sir Alonne?
-But we got Sir Alonne at home - Pantalone
hopefully jev drops a video on this game soon
I remember when the title was “The new soulslike game is not as bad as people think.”
He changed his mind lmao
@@portersx2raygun197no he didn’t he thought it was mid the entire time
it was like a day ago itd be hard to not remember
@@portersx2raygun197 That's it, go back to English class
I'll consider buying it after they finish the game, kinda weird that they released it with a roadmap of pretty big changes that won't be done until 2025.
“Charlie said this game is mid he hates this fucking game”
The Zamni fight was a model after the Dragonskin warrior from Elden ring😭
Indie and AA being mosty affected, You knew its getting flack from the darksouls community if the game plays and looks different than what people got used to. But justifiably so if the game does had issues, like lack of mobility making the combat isnt that engaging.
Your grammar is its own souls boss, have a like anyway.
@@CyberCripXwas coming here to say something similar, you beat me to it. Have this like
I really didn't feel immobile playing the game during combat. outside of combat however the movement feels off.
Video 275 of asking Charlie to buy me a Patent lawyer so I can bring my inventions to life and sponsor his esports team.
the gameplay doesn't seem awful, but the art style is definitely giving me asset flip vibes
You make a game from scratch
@@Half_Bl00d_H3R0lol no you don’t. You can rip assets and steal them which op is talking about. You don’t ALWAYS make a game from stratch. That’s just a little naive
@@Half_Bl00d_H3R0 omg you absolute lobotomites still use this argument in the face of surface level criticism????? Do not act like games are a protected art form, and DEFINITELY dont act high and mighty by pretending you havent critiqued anything ever in your life.
Last boss is programmed to respond to your actions, when he sits still he is waiting to counter which it does pretty well actually but it also opens him up for ai glitch
Yeah, but you yourself said it was mid and the enemy movesets are the same and boring
I don’t think I’ve seen such janky movements in a game this new like ever. It’s more like stand completely still souls by the looks of it. Shit looks so repetitive and boring
It's clearly very undercooked game. They said theyre gonna fix a lot of issues so hopefully game reaches its potential by next year but boy why the hell did they release game in glorified early access state I'll never know.
Mid doesn't mean trash, it means it's just mid its not dog ass or amazing
It’s obviously bad, just kinda surprised that he couldn’t say it. “Bosses break entirely, and even when they work, their move sets are duller and more repetitive than Dark Souls 2 enemies.” = mid
Saying a piece of media is “alright” is just worthless, you might as well not say anything about it. A creator can’t do much with “it’s ok”, they need critical feedback.
@@THExDUFFxBOMBx42777 how is saying a piece of media is alright worthless? That is critical feedback.
Watching this 1.5 hours in and my main takeaway is just that the scope of the game was too big, if they made the game half as large but twice as detailed, maybe more than twice for combat music😂
You really don’t need to lie
Lords of the fallen 2023 was way better than people give it credit for!
It was a great game. With cool bosses with a great World.
Having to constantly go to umbral to get around doors and stuff was real annoying though.
Nah
i wish i could say it was but man was it really bad when it launched. props to the devs for working to fix it all but by that time it was too late. game is okay for what it is but there is no compelling story in it and all the movements are not fluid, but goofy.
agreed, however I feel like people are going to do the same thing with Enotria as LOTF.
As someone who beat the game in a stomp because I immediately went for an elemental build, the balance is absolutely woeful. By spamming mask lines (abilities) and having a build that consisted of relatively spread out stats, weapon infusions (you only need one at a time, because the game's areas' main weaknesses are pretty obvious, and the degree of 'use the right thing or screw you' is so high that even just infusing a weapon of the wrong element with the right one can make a dramatic difference) and having mask lines recover quicker when my weapons are infused allowed me to recover them back to back and do several thousand damage to even the hardest bosses, while also building up massive poise.
Physical damage gets a few hundred per hit and literally nothing else.
Bro changed the title
It seems like every gamer watches the credit at the end of any game the first time. Gotta give the guys some credit for making a decent game. It could be worse for sure, they could probably patch quite a bit.
I love the Italian aesthetic of this game. I really hope they make more of these with polished edges.
Mafia souls
This game looks like one of those unity asset games that Charlie plays during bad games night. It's crazy cause they spent so much on advertisement and marketing, when they could've poured more bucks into making this game.
Why change the title
Yeah I was wondering what happened
Changed his mind probably.
Game seems imbalanced so I don’t blame him.
Didn't change his mind. It's semantics. Both titles are relevant but people are too stupid so he changed it.
@@Cybertruck2022 no
@@frosyiz2881 no what 🤨
11:20 fight back FIGHT BACK
Humanoid boss fights are the most boring part of Soulslikes, and this game features a LOT of them.
Can't believe charlie was the bay harbour butcher
anyone else realize how the title went from "This New Souls Game Isn't As Bad As People Are Saying" to "New Souls-Like Game Is Mid" 😂
I came to the comments for this 😭😭😭
it means the same
Imagine playing a souls game from the POV of a big bad, just randomly going about your day when a small person randomly decides to trespass on your place or accost you as you are running errands.
Its like Asmon said the game isnt that bad. people are just comparing it to wukong and such games.
The game is barely a 6 and costs too much for what it offers. It is also buggy. You guys are high on copium just because it is a souls like.
ngl taking Asmon's opinion is crazy
Asmons opinions are also regularly dogshit 😂. It’s so crazy we see someone with over a mil subs and think their word means actually anything
This bum game cost the same as sekiro on sale maybe higher that's not worth it at all keep coping 😂
@@khaalmalki4039 there's Souls-likes that everyone can agree that are straight up boring or bad (Mortal Shell). This game, however is pretty damn enjoyable for me at least. I'm not going to like and say the game is in a finished state but there are people that will hate this game because From Soft didn't make it and other people won't even look at Enotria because of those takes.
Bro i like DS2 and i think this is complete ass
Saying you like ds2 like that suppose to mean something
@@outlastingflame1614Too much ds 2 slandering within fromsoft community so people think it's actually bad when actually it's probably just worst of fromsoft games, meaning it's still a good game lol
@@EPE77U dark souls 2 > dark souls
@@420.Outcast They are about same level for me. Hard to compare when they excel at different things. DS2 has more forgettable bosses but weapon variety is better. Some questionable design choices but also some great stuff like way better new game plus + bonfire ascetics. Those things should be in other games too
My personal take is that ds3 > ds1 and ds2 mainly because bosses are so good and combat is less clunky
This looks like something we've seen 10,000 times already. It has the Soulslike look and mechanics but there's not much beyond the setting to differentiate it from a sea of over-motion blurred and strangely cheap-feeling Dark Souls wannabes.
It's soulless because the devs seem to have no personal attachment to the game but only made it because soulslikes/soulslite are at a rise. I love me some banger indies but they often pander to nostalgia or make the most derivative slop. (I DON'T HATE INDIES!!!)
i can't stand these soul's wannabe games.
Kinda get close to being shovelwares
Trust me... it's not soulless.
Here in italy we've been hearing about this project for years, the people behind this game have been working on it for almost a decade and they were putting their heart on it, in reality the problem is the exact opposite, the devs were so passionate about it that it became too ambitious for its own good, and it ended up being kind of an unpolished game.
difficult to imagina a passion and drive to create a dark soul's clone
@@pignoleriaman7055Then y'all shouldn't have put out overhyped drek.
I wasnt really until MTG under Charlie started getting into it. He got me hooked especially with his skill check channel.
I was super into 40k though, and im so glad Charlie is now getting into that as well. Soon he will have no money but a huge 100,000 point army.
This video was definitely titled “The new souls game isn’t too bad” not too long ago and now it’s apparently mid
It was titled “this new souls game isn’t as bad as people are saying.” That doesn’t mean he can’t think it’s mid.
@@hemipenes Definitely comes off with different tonalities though doesn’t it? Saying something is mid is essentially saying it’s not good in context.
@@aidanastokes”not too bad” feels like not very good at all
He has to keep up with the majority of comments or else risk having his own opinion.
@@SeaDubya eh if I say a burger I had was not too bad the tone I would imagine is oh wow that wasn’t too bad I’d have it again whereas if I said it was mid you’d definitely think I meant it deadpan.
They did a great job for such small team, and as an Italian I can confirm that as in terms of game developing, Italy doesn't go so far
Better then lords of the fallen
I liked 2023 lords of the fallen
Nah 2023 LOTF was better.
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks these games are boring as fuck.
Nah I agree
Just the boring ones
Souls games and souls-likes are the best arpg genre has to offer really.
It's very hard to get good, unlike most games. It's a combination of planning, wits, and motor skills. Then you can troll people online.
This game cured my insomnia
Mid
Was this stream just for members or how come i didn‘t see it?
I feel like the Souls-like genre is starting to get oversaturated 😐
Facts I didn’t know it was so many til now
it's a shitty, lazy trend. always has been. shameless miyazaki rippoffs milking the dark soul's formula.
Glad yall are seeing it now
Yep. Its getting just as played out as all the other genres.
@@eyeeye7356 u a hidetaka miyazaki fan or what?
honestly, the only things I know about Dark Souls are some daggers, a boss theme and some puppet lady
If you didn’t come from tiktok raise your hand 🤚🏽
Dude the video just uploaded
Hell yeah!
Charlie has tiktok?
WTF give it back.
lol you got botted
Real ones know the og title was "This souls like isn't as bad as people say". Y did he change it?
because people were mad when he explained why it was mid
isnt it kinda funny ur not talking about the situation with jimmy and are choosing to delete comments instead? i thought you said you would stop being friends with someone if they were exposed for bad things...
Fr, almost like he’s being paid to not talk about it
Cry
@@outlastingflame1614 did your tears hit the reply button for you?
didn't he mention how he no longer wants to cover 'serious' drama? correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there's anything wrong with doing so, not covering said drama doesn't exactly mean he's friends with him or anything, we don't know his personal life.
As for the deleting comments part I haven't seen that myself but if that's true then that is pretty disappointing.
@@zoofin he’s covered plenty of serious cases even after that statement, he just deliberately “ignores” Mr beast drama
It seems like a solid foundation but it looks more like an early access that hasnt finalised its player controller or added visual oomph. A massive part of soulslikes is the subtle emphasis on meneuverability and the scary powerful strikes of bosses that form a visually stunning and mechanically tense ganeplay loop.
This looks very bland by comparison. Lots of you and your opponents standing in each others face trading blows with little weight behind each swing, or movement to spice up the downtime between attacks, and nothing the player or enemies do feels chunky or has any finesse.
Expectations need to be lowered for more indie styled projects ofc, and as memtioned they have a solid baseline, but a lot of work needs to be put in imho.
As it stands, they might not end up with as many sales as they mightve expected because it doesnt look engaging, leaving them with the choice of giving up or sitting down and actively taking on player feedback to make a good game around their unique premise and selling point.
Changed the title within an hour to avoid needing to defend an opinion. Everything about this guy is too short.
He changed the title because all the kids in the comment section assumed he was saying the game was good when he said it was mid multiple times. Not his fault that you guys have bad reading comprehension.
You have brainrot 😢
I can't help but remember egoraptor saying something about how time taken does not equate to difficulty in games...
it is pretty bad... you just say it's not bad cuz it's your favorite genre.
What makes it bad
Completely agree art design is bad and every time I clicked on his stream whenever he killed someone the exact same death animation played. Souls games are so over concentrated as well.
@@infamousdntThe most important thing, gameplay is horrible.
Love the vid repost that still has the older stuff ❤
"This New Souls Game Isn't As Bad As People Are Saying" transforms into "This Souls-Like Game is Mid"
Semantics sweetheart
Because everyone is saying it’s trash saying it’s mid is the same as saying it’s not as bad as people are saying.
not gonna lie this game looks kinda of fun. I wish it looked a little more polished.
charlie changing the title a bit to shill
What did it say before I thought it changed lmao
@@Waterdog553 “New souls game isn’t as bad as people say”
@@drak_darippa he probably changed it because of all the whining in the comments
Shill? What the fuck does that mean
@@mementomori771 are you 5
It's nice being Greek for moments like these. Apotropaic is a greek word so makes it funny watching anybody else struggle.
no way bro changed the title from "this game isnt as bad as everyone says it is" to "this game is mid" lmaoo
You're laughing cause he shortened the title?
We are a point where I miss God of War clones 😅