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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2023
- Pixar's latest started out bombing but found an audience over time. Does Doug think it's deserving of it's eventual love? Let's take a look at Elemental.
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Elemental (subtitled Forces of Nature in some countries) is a 2023 American animated romantic comedy-drama film produced by Walt Disney Pictures and Pixar Animation Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. Directed by Peter Sohn and produced by Denise Ream, it was written by Sohn, John Hoberg, Kat Likkel, and Brenda Hsueh.[a] The film stars the voices of Leah Lewis, Mamoudou Athie, Ronnie del Carmen, Shila Ommi, Wendi McLendon-Covey, and Catherine O'Hara.
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Fun Fact: This did especially well in South Korea since the director is the son of Korean immigrants and that informed the movie. It's personal for him and I like that.
And I know so many people that can connect to this film too
Also, I like how Ember's parents, when they arrive at Elemental City, speak Korean. This movie was obviously based on the director's experience as the son of Korean immigrants, and the fire community seems to represent all the East Asian enclaves in America cities, i.e. Chinatown, Koreatown, Little Tokyo.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Korean, but a mish mash of languages, and I found that so respectful since it just focused more on what the immigrant experience is. You can't possibly pinpoint it to one culture because it's prevalent in each. It can stretch from Asian to Arabic to Balkan. I've watched this movie more than once and I've cried each time, not for the sweet romance but just feeling and witnessing my family's story play out and just feeling seen. It's such a beautiful and important film.
This movie is now a classic to both my girlfriend and myself. She pointed out how neither Disney nor Pixar have really done a straight up love story for a long while and this was a great one to come back to.
Plus this kind of had that old Pixar charm. Pixar movies compared to Disney tend to be really emotional and tug at your heartstrings one way or another. And this movie was really made with love. I felt like I was watching Monster's Inc again.
How many trees do you think died in the war against the water people?
same, I think it's highly under rated and one of pixars best in awhile. hopefully over time people look at it again and give it a chance
Agreed! Pixar really needs to do more movies with a love story as the core because as much as they defied it at first in opposition to Disney’s “traditional romance movie”, they hit the bleachers every time they do it.
Who knows, Disney seems AFRAID to do love stories now so maybe Pixar can pick that one up. 😂
Also, I think that when Wade and Ember touch. They create a small paper-thin layer of steam, which would make sense when you combine fire and water, you get steam
The name for that is the Leidenfrost effect. It's a very helpful effect when cooking, especially with stainless steel.
The difference between Elemental and Zootopia is Elemental tackles the psychology of relationships and Zootopia tackles society stereotypes. Nick and Judy were not in love with each other like Wade and Ember. While Elemental goes through society stereotypes it is not the focus of the film. It is simply giving you context of where Ember's family roots are. In Zootopia it is clearly the focus. Elemental's focus is expressions of love.
You Forgot the Theme About Imigration
The beautifully illustrated trilogy of Zootopia abortion comics would beg to differ
@@EngineerRiffYou're acting like Disney created those comics
@@DimitarKolarov-hy2ex That again is establishing Ember's family roots.
@@jeremiahhester6408 Believe me, I know they didn’t
The way they can touch is through a concept called the Leidenfrost Effect. In short, Ember's heat would generate an insulating layer of steam that would keep Wade from boiling away and Ember from extinguishing.
My wife and I are in an interracial relationship, and I gotta say, we were cracking up watching this. They hit SO MANY things on the head about the many oddities of our relationship, and the things we had to learn about one another’s upbringing, family etc. I had a great time with it.
I heard that term used to describe this movie.
Us too. My boyfriend and I are interracial and boy did this movie touch our hearts. We saw it when it premiered and it brought us closer together and when it came back to theaters we went and saw it a second time. Edit: Now fiance.
Yep, my life and experiences are _extremely_ different from my girlfriend’s and although it has a lot of flaws we found the two of them extremely charming and I saw it hit a lot of the beats that we can recognize from our own relationship.
@@Lowkeylie me too. I'm black and my boyfriend is white. He comes from a two parent four sibling household and a middle class family that can afford yearly vacations and are very casual people. I'm from a single mom no sibling household with barely any extra money to throw around for even the simplest of fun things like going to the pool in the summertime let alone a vacation. My family has a lot of traditions and strong beliefs so I relate to Ember with not getting to be my true self and being terrified of letting my family down. My boyfriend doesn't truly understand my life or my experiences, I have traumas you wouldn't believe. But the fact that he TRIES to understand, and is always there to support me, call me out on my crap and hold me when I cry is more than good enough for me. Our relationship had hit a road bump at the time of Elemental coming out and it's like seeing it rekindled our spark. It was like a reminder of how much we love each other and WHY. It helped us work through what we were dealing with at the time.
Im also in an interracial marraige and weve always found that people expect there to be bigger differences or clashes than there ever actually are.
Were all just people.
Got major Middle Eastern/Indian vibes from the fire people and as someone who was bullied as a kid for being Middle Eastern, it really resonated with me. Wade straight up acknowledges that he doesn't know the struggle Ember's had but still actually listens and empathizes to her story. The delivery on "You must have been so scared" friggin got me in the theater and got me to recommend it to my parents, who usually hate animated movies.
She's angry about that story and upset for her dad and wade totally disarms her when he says how scary that must have been. One of many spots in the film I started to cry. Wade's ability to get to the emotional truth of a story and be non judgemental about was so beautiful.
I actually think it’s amazing that they managed to capture an almost universal immigrant feeling and experience! You felt middle eastern/Indian vibes, but I personally felt very Jewish vibes, and the creator based it on their experience being Korean. These are obviously distinct and and different cultures but the movie manages to resonate with all of us in a way that allows us to see ourselves and relate to one another. It’s an underappreciated aspect of the film, I think.
@raingilkes3502 Yeah, I picked up on the middle eastern/korean feel myself, but(as we don't really get to learn much about immigration struggles in school), my first thought was the struggles of Irish immigrants to America. It really manages to hit close to a lot of people. And a lot of the familial dynamic of Ember's family actually reminded me a lot of Grecian immigration and the struggles to rekindle one's endangered culture.
I liked it a lot, especially the dynamic between ember and her parents. And when I saw the small documentary behind the chemistry, I understood more why I liked it
Ember and Wade's relationship is one of my favorite elements from this movie and their moments together are pretty friggin adorable and wholesome 🔥❤️💧
Haha “Favorite elements” 🤭
@@Rangi_WildDog I know, but still, those two are still my favorite cute couple 🔥❤💧
In comparison to Zootopia, I do like how this movie is about how cities, as in urban design, can be hostile to minorities/immigrants. Like Zootopia is wholly accommodating to every animal type in its design, but Element City is mostly built to accommodate the non-fire elements. I thought that was cool.
I dunno. Clearly the lack of non-predator cops can make troubles policing some places. Like how the area for rodents are pretty much on their own since the cops are way too big to get into their place. Suppose that has that essence of hostilities, and they are mostly composed of immigrants themselves, as the + show showed.
I took a class on architectural anthropology and the way design is related to racism and discrimination will never leave my mind, I love how they address it
Its because its a racism allegory that doesn't really work because they decided the movie need to adhere to real world physics.
@@nigerianprincess101ok
@@nigerianprincess101lol. That’s a hilarious joke if it’s a joke.
I actually really liked it. There is tropes, yes, but I think they infused it with enough nuance for it to work. I really enjoyed the romance between the two of them and the guilt that she felt for not taking over her dad’s business felt very true to me. I actually really felt the passion and emotional honesty that the director infused into it
The Pixar film that got knocked down, but got back up again.
Wade and Ember's relationship is so strong and realistic for a kids' movie. When Ember is telling her story to Wade, he empathises with her, despite admitting that he doesn't fully understand.
No he is a Simp.
I don’t care what anyone says, I definitely felt their chemistry and could see the romance developing between them. Both Wade and Ember are probably the cutest Pixar couple since WALL-E and EVE.
@@bookonlegsbookonlegs8991 how could doug hate good movies like this and yet love pecies of crap like soul ratatouille and inside out
@@matthewvalente5877, hold up?! You think this movie is better than those three? How?! While I don’t think this movie is awful, I don’t see it as anywhere better than these films do in terms of story and characters. I can at least say that it’s animated better than Wish.
@@saidbojoquerz7228It's an insult to even compare this to wish.
I find it kinda amazing how this movie managed to bounce back so quickly.
Me too
Even though the movie isn’t the absolute best thing that Pixar has made, I’m glad that it ended up doing well at the box office after a rough opening. It was actually a cute movie with two likable leads and a sweet romance. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Not one of their best but it's solid.
I thought it barely broke even?
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It lost money.
@@tonep3168 elemental squeal is not happening
@@tonep3168 yeah, especially factoring all the money they must have spent on marketing... I don't think a net lose constitutes "doing well" at the box office😂
This movie has some good stuff in it. The animation on the fire, water, and air people is amazing, the powers and abilities they have are are very creative, I love how they created an entire original language for the fire people. I also like the arc Ember goes through. As for the romance, I feel there's some chemistry between them, but it could've been done a lot better. Not one of Pixar's best, but not awful.
Agreed. That animation is gorgeous.
It was cool what they did with the fire people.
Original language? I thought it was just Korean considering the main character's supposed to be, you know, a director self-insert.
Yes they are supposed to be self inserts but it is their own made up language for this movie. Also don't forget the scene in the beginning when he is trying to spell his name and it was just a bunch of fire sounds. That fits perfectly with the theme of immigration and cultural adaptation the movie was going for. For many immigrants, their names where changed becuase the immigration officials couldn't understand them so they just gave them any generic name based on the person's race. Very common back then.
On the six days of Disneycember Doug send me
Six elements going wrong
Five ice age meltdowns
Four Bad wishes
Three great adventures
Two Marvel downfalls
And a classic review from the past 🎄
More like Six elements going right.
The movie was good but ok
@@hunterolaughlin😒🙄😒
More like 3 trash adventures
I was hoping you would like it but I knew you wouldn't 😭 Personally, I love it. In contrast with Zootopia, this film touches on those same concepts with a simple intimate romantic story instead of a complex mystery and that worked better for me. I love how the characters are fleshed out and how they are based on their element yet still have more depth than just that.
You mentioned you didn't see the chemistry between them, but I love their chemistry. I like you can see why they fall in love and what their dynamic is.
I also love how the film, simple on the surface, has a lot of details about the characters and their relationship.
For me, while this movie talks about some social issues, this film is more about love (partner love, family love, self-love) and it tells such a relatable and heartwarming story that hit close to home ❤
I get why you didn’t like it, but like you said, I'm glad it wasn't a flop and that it's founding an audience. It's in my top 3 Pixar films. ❤
As a kid of Korean immigrants, this movie struck quite a nerve in me and made me cry at the end. It's not just Zootopia done with elements, it's a cross-cultural romance that actually managed to nail at least somewhat the non-white experience is living in America. And it makes sense, as the director is also Korean American.
First Gen Nigerian American and it made me cry too. It’s so strange because culturally Nigerians and Koreans aren’t necessarily similar, but I’ve found that in the US I most relate to other immigrants
But that's the problem. If a movie wants to be successful and timeless, it shouldn't be made just for one specific audience group.
@@valentinkambushev4968For who then? Everyone? At that point, you risk making a film nobody wants.
@@valentinkambushev4968You have to understand, this film was, in some ways, inspired by the director's real life. You can't really remove that aspect of the movie (You might as well remove the heart entirely doing so).
@@valentinkambushev4968and yet two RUclipsrs from different ethnic groups got a lot out of it. If you swallow your prejudices, then you might too
I adored this movie. It's so charming and endearing to me, especially when it comes to Wade's empathy. I also loved the resolve between Ember and her dad at the end. I teared up several times watching this, and I've watched it thrice already! Definitely a Pixar favorite for me c:
I enjoyed the simplicity of this film. It's straightforward and to the point with no agendas or hidden messages. I found its basic nature extremely refreshing.
Basic Nature. Ha ha. Bet that combo was unintentional.
@@motherplayer ;)
Wade and Ember definitely had chemistry, it’s one of the best things about the film and I love that it’s a simple storyline, Doug never really been into these type of films
It's *not* just Zootopia with elements! Yes, it explores prejudice and bias, but it's much more a love letter to immigrants and an exploration of the complex feelings and experiences of their bicultural kids who don't want to disappoint their parents or reject their sacrifices, but also want to pursue their own dreams. I highly recommend the special featurette about the film to gain more insight into Peter Sohn (the director) and his family.
I recently watched Elemental on Disney+ and instantly loved the art style, Ember's and Walt's relationship felt real instead of forced, but the vase repair and underwater flower garden scenes took my breath away.
I think had this film been released 10 years ago, people would have been kinder to it. The reason why I believed it bombed at the box office is because people are tired of Disney for not doing anything original anymore. On top of that, they don't want to see stories that PREACH at them like they have done for the past few years. It is going to take alot of good will for Disney to earn the respect of the audience back.
barbie and oppenheimer came out near the same time and alot of people said "it will be on disney+ in two months, why should i pay extra money for it"
I don’t think that’s it. Barbie had an obvious message but it performed well
@@arex9000 That's true. However, FNAF prove to us that even if a movie appears on a streaming service the same day(Five Nights At Freddy's was released on Peacock for example), they will watch it in theaters if it is worth seeing on the big screen.
I do agree that it doesn't look at all promising for Disney in the future. Even though I did like Elemental.
whenever i hear the tern "preach" when talking about movies, is when that movie has a message that leads you to think a little harder and the person doesnt want to do that
I literally got an advert for the movie when I clicked on this video 😂
The thing I love most about this movie is how realistic it is. You could literally replace all the characters with humans and the story would more or less be the same. These are realistic scenarios, realistic problems, realistic conversations and realistic feelings. Ember is, by no exaggeration, the most relatable character I've ever seen in my life. As someone with anger issues and have also suffered a lot because of it, I saw myself in Ember, and by the end that recognition brought me to tears. Yes, this movie made me cry. All these recent Disney movies that so many people have declared bad, like Elemental, Raya And The Last Dragon, Ralph Breaks The Internet, while I did recognize their flaws, I found value in them. And therefore, Elemental is genuinely my absolute favorite Pixar film.
I have such complicated feelings on this movie. The production was absolutely spectacular, like it's one of the most gorgeous Pixar films ever made. I loved the worldbuilding, the soundtrack, the creativity of it all. But then the story was the most generic, predictable thing in existence. The director said they were inspired by 90s rom-coms and it is extremely obvious. I almost feel the story would have been better if they focused more on the immigrant/fish out of water angle and like Doug said, really explored the struggles the fire people have living in a city fundamentally built against them.
Hey careful now, that sounds like you HATE it, even though you don't and just have some minor grievances with how things play out, and now people are gonna put words in your mouth that you HATE it all.
Heh. Fish out of WATER.
Ok
I thought the film focused on the struggles of fire folk aplenty in its current form.
@@geoffreyrichards6079There’s always some sort of contradictor in every comment. Go figure….. 😒🙄😒
Wow, Doug harshed a lot more on this movie than I thought he would. If I might present a little constructive rebuttal.
-Zootopia was *about* Zootopia. It did a lot more worldbuilding because it was about how complicated societies function and malfunction. Elemental is a love story, a generational story. It doesn’t explore as much how Element city works because it isn’t the focus of the story.
-On that note, maybe I’m looking at it wrong, but I see why Ember and Wade make a good couple. Wade empathizes with Ember, which is clearly not something she’s used to even from her own family. They love her, and she loves them, but she carries a lot of anger that she doesn’t express to them for fear of disappointing them. (Precisely because she loves them.) When she gets angry about the memory of not seeing the Vivisteria flower, Wade tears up and says how scared she must have been and she cools down almost immediately and admits that she was. Anger is a secondary emotion after all and Wade was able to see through that to get to what she was really feeling.
On Wade’s part, his “voice” came more through his actions than what he said. As soon as he sends the report on the Fireplace, his entire motivation after that is helping Ember. Even if it costs him a lot of time and effort, he doesn’t care. At first, it’s personal responsibility, but as soon as they dam up the canal, he asks her out. He fills up the sandbags, he shows her his family, he gives her her dream of seeing the Vivisteria. It’s a tiny moment but when they’re underwater and he’s pulling Ember back to the surface, he says “try to breathe slowly” with much more strength in his voice than he normally speaks. Let’s not forget that one of what he thought were his last words were, “I have no regrets, you gave me something some people search their whole life for.”
Wade is sensitive, yes, but he’s also a young man who truly finds his strength in the love he has for Ember.
-Lastly, I wouldn’t count Ember not wanting to run the shop as a “liar reveal” because at the beginning of the movie, SHE doesn’t know she doesn’t want to run the shop! That’s kind of a big turning point for Ember’s character. That what she thought she wanted out of life wasn’t what she actually wanted but convinced herself that anything better or different didn’t matter because she had an obligation to her parents. Something that Wade encourages her to open up about.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm honestly a little disappointed in Doug. I expected better from him with this. I wish other people could see the movie this way that you do.
man if you think basically saying "meh, its fine" is being harsh on a movie you might need to touch some grass
@@Xarazel He did say it was “meh.” I’ve seen him go WAY harder on other movies. I’m not questioning his overall assessment, just the interpretations he takes on individual facets. I would politely ask you not assume I’m upset when all I said was “he went a little harsh.”
Agree with everything you said, but there is a liar reveal though. It’s when her dad finds out she caused the leak and is dating a water guy and has been lying to him about both
Doug never has been into romantic movies if you look at his reviews. Beauty and the Beast is the only one I recall him loving.
One thing that Disney has been missing recently is romance, they don't really do those anymore. It was refreshing to see one again. Me and my fiancée had a blast watching it~
Okay as rom com-inspired this was, I thought this was going to have one trope I despise where the two mains have a misunderstanding and split up
However it’s due to backgrounds and pressure, mainly from Ember’s side. I loved how even Wade came back to Ember to talk.
Elemental was better than Wish in all honesty!
Both are mediocre Disney and Pixar movies, tbh
For the record I hate romantic comedies and yet I love this movie and it made me cry at the end so it clearly did something right.
Or you're just sensitive. /J
@@Marvelfanatic3658 buzzard sound effect. I'm sorry the answer we were looking for is elemental is a good movie
@@stormshadowproductions1660 dw I'm just messing with you. I cry during movies sometimes as well 😅
@@Marvelfanatic3658 DW? You mean Arthur's sister?
@@Marvelfanatic3658 by the way is it just me or has this Disneycember been very negative
This movie was a perfect example of how well word-of-mouth marketing can work. Much better than whatever marketing Disney was doing anyway...
Erm, not really. It cost 200mil to make, 100mil at least to market, and the theatres had to take their nearly %50 cut of the box office. So it lost a lot of money.
@@tonep3168 I think I've seen you in almost every comment thread on here, aren't you getting a bit tired? It lost *some* money, but it didn't lose "a lot" of money, and Disney/Pixar can recover from this way better than Lightyear or the Good Dinosaur. It's the highest grossing original animated movie to come out of Disney since way before the pandemic. That's not something to overlook or scoff at considering how poorly they've been doing with theater releases until now.
@@DragonRebelRoseI can’t stand ignorance, or shills lying. But don’t let a fact get in the way of a good agenda, aye?
Not really. Puss In Boots 2 is a much better example of how word of mouth can save a movie. Elemental's performance was still disappointing and a bad sign for Pixar.
People are not gravitating towards Disney nor Pixar anymore, and it's easy to see why.
@@tonep3168 If theaters really took 50 percent, they would not need to charge an arm and a leg for soda and popcorn. 500 million worldwide plus merchandise, streaming and home video sales and you're looking and a movie in the black even if it's not Barbie money.
So in other words, shut the heck up.
I thought that this was a cute movie. Although the Fire/Water Allegories aren't subtle, I loved Wade and Ember's relationship, how she's able to open up around him, and how he empathises with her plight.
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I LOVED this movie. It's was such a beautiful love story. And theirs weren't any that huge high stakes involved with this movie, it was simply a lovely love story between two elements.
I loved this movie too
Okay, after all the different things Disney has been doing, I like that it’s going back to basics.
Beautiful movie. Should have been called “The Little Engine That Could.” To go from an opening that disastrous to just shy of half a billion dollars (factoring in VOD, strong Disney+ numbers, and merchandise as well) is a testament to how much it connected with audiences who saw it.
It lost money. You really need to learn how the box office works. If the film made 500mil, which I’d didn’t, then the theatres share is roughly half of what they take. The movies budget was estimated at 200mil, and does not include the marketing and promotion budget, which would be an absolute minimum of 100mil, and is probably closer to 200mil. So, does that sound successful? Oh, and no, the merch didn’t sell, and Disney plus doesn’t count, as subscriptions never moved when this was released, and Disney does not release viewing figures, so it’s impossible to guage.
@tonep3168 the theater takes like 10% of box offices sales not 50. I work in a theater for almost 3 years most of the money comes from concessions that is why it is so expensive.
@@strwrbttlfrntyou’re delusional. In your mind, if a movie ticket is say $20, the theatre is only going to get $2? Hahahahahahaha learn to Google! Hahahahahahaha
@@tonep3168 there two ways actually your way and my way depends on theater and distributor. So learn to Google as well.
@@tonep3168 a movie has to make at least doubled it's production budget in order to be a "modest" success, and that's what Elemental did, making almost $500 mil against a $200 mil budget is considered a commercial success
Wildly unpopular opinion here I’m sure, but for me, this did WAY more than Zootopia ever did. It’s been the most engaging Disney movie I’ve seen in years.
And I **hugely** appreciated the fact that they let Wade react with empathy in situations where most people’s go-to reaction would be anger. Ironic to say for a water guy but WHAT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.
The trailer did this movie really dirty.
It’s not perfect but I like the whole immigrant family plot.
I saw re animation of the trailer for this film in which they did it "realistically" ie ember is a literal flame in clothing and wade is just formless water in the shape of a man
No faces
And honestly?
It was kind of amazing.
With just the direction and what tiny amount of voice acting is present in the scene, it Really makes you FEEL the emotion, even though you cant see what their faces are telling you, its all in the body language (elemental language?)
Its kinda arthousy but honestly i feel like this film would have been far better had they gone that route
I loved this movie, it’s just really cute, and Ember/ Wade are such an adorable couple! It’s a bit cliche, but it’s wholesome as heck.
Agree
I agree, Ember and Wade are an adorably cute couple and I really love their moments together 🔥❤️💧
I didn't fully appreciate this movie until I saw Korean comics video on it. He mentions how in a lot of Asien cultures the children are expected to do what the parent wants them to. Like if they want to be a doctor or fireman but the parents want them to run their store. If they dont do as the parent wishes they will most likely be disowned. Same goes for cross culture marriage.
So the reason Ember reacted the way she did and the parent reaction at the reopening party was actually based on real cultural consequences if she was in our world. She had to lie to them about both or risk being disowned which is what almost happens in the movie.
The fact that Elemental had a comeback makes me even sorrier for Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken
Here's hoping it finds a audience on streaming and grows a cult following like other underrated gems like Atlantis Lost Empire did.
Nah don't be. Ruby Gillman was a major downgrade compared to The Last Wish. It's the Sinbad to Shrek.
@@rommix0 Agreed, as someone who gave it a shot and actually saw it in theaters in the hope it would surprise me. It didn't.
On the 6th Disneycember, the Critic gave to me:
A Pixar sleeper hit
ANOTHER SEQUEL!
Torn apart by critics
We need another season!
Victim of the strikes
And a cult movie with a fanbase.
I actually really love the contrast of Wade's family being emotional and sensitive and open with their feelings as opposed to Ember's family being a bit more reserved and keeping their walls up. I think a lot of people in cross-cultural relationships can really really relate to it in ways that Zootopia couldn't. This movie is not a re-tread of that. The structures of the city not being particularly accommodating for Fire beings i think can also be very relatable, and it gives them a reason to sort of carve out their own community. This movie isnt really a commentary on society, but on the boundaries of culture. It really resonated with me and my girlfriend, tbh. Writing it off as "woke" when its such a real story being told from such a realistic place, and comparing it to Zootopia is undeserved. The elemental beings in this movie feel more human than many human Pixar characters.
Whoever created the trailer did this film a HUGE disservice
The film that went from Pixars biggest bomb to a surprising story of box office redemption.
This movie was a bomb. $200M plus marketing. It didn’t break even. Everyone needs to stop painting this film as a hit.
Close to 500 million worldwide. Don't paint it as a bomb.
Nope, it still lost a considerable amount of money.
@@thunderpantzerm, yes it was. Go and read up on how the box office money is broken down, then learn about how movies are marketed, and I’ll give you a hint, the marketing nearly always costs as much as the movies own budget. If the movie took 500mil, which it didn’t, nearly %50 of the ticket goes to the theatre. Not looking so rosy now, is it? And we haven’t even paid the marketing out of that 250mil left, have we? Oops.
@@tonep3168 You forgot merchandise and home video. Oops.
On the sixth day of Disneycember, the channel gave to me
Six elemental relationship goals
Five Ice Age pirates!! (Badam-bam-bah)
Four awkward Wishes
Three Owl Houses
Two groups of female Marvels
And Dennis Hopper saying "Monkey"
The marketing for this movie was... interesting to say the least.
I didn't think I would like this movie, but I surprisingly enjoyed it.
I'm convinced Doug just doesn't like romances because I 100% bought that Ember and Wade were in love. The movie didn't need to spell it out for me I totally felt it in the actions of the characters - especially Wade. What, was Doug expecting them to make out or something? I'm very confused.
Also - yes the whole "character doesn't want to run a parents business and they don't want to tell them" IS clichéd - but for this movie it's different because it comes from a much more personal place. Ember thought her running the shop was paying back the sacrifice her parents made to come to a new city they didn't know and adapt to a culture that wasn't theirs. It's the more personal touch that makes this cliché work here imo.
I really enjoyed this film, and I was really happy once it broke even at the box office. It makes me optimistic for Pixar’s future.
Wow I couldn't disagree more, Doug. I thought this was a beautiful telling of the plight of the immigrant. And who doesn't have immigrant grandparents or even parents? I think Ember went a bit too far in the breakup when she essentially treated him like a rich white kid. I think it was an unnecessary part that had not a whole lot to do with the story, but they do treat her like she was awful for saying it. But other than that, I thought it was fun. I actually sympathized with Ember when she got pissed while running the shop. And the dude that played Wade has amazing vocal range. I also disagree, I've seen Ember and Wade's love 100x over. Ember, the stubborn, more traditional male stereotype. And Wade, the goofy more emotional female stereotype. I see those relationships in real life, and I see them on screen.
Also Wade connects with all his family members, and even connects with both his female wind boss, and Ember, and Ember's mom.
On the 6th Disneycember, the Critic gave to me:
Torn apart by critics
We need another season!
Victim of the strikes
a cult movie with a fanbase
a funny ice covered movie
A good elemental comeback
On the sixth day of Disneycember, my critic gave to me:
Six Fire Vixens
FIVE PIRATE ANIMALS
Four Wishing Stars
Three eyed Queen
Two alien cats
And One Koopa with a M O N K E Y gun
With Elemental, I couldn't really feel any chemistry between the two characters either. And given the powerful message of breaking down social barriers for love, that's arguably the most important thing to get right in the movie. Also, the "liar reveal" moment late in the film kinda bugged me as Ember was a little too mean in it. Definitely not a terrible movie though overall.
Found a phantomstrider
@@alibrennan5977 It used splash. No effect!
It was kinda nice to just see a love story, which aren’t made as much as they used to be. Also, I recommend watching the making of elemental. The filmmaker behind it infused tons of inspiration from his upbringing, his relationship & paid homage to his parents in this film. That makes it more authentic and less generic feeling😊
The moral of Disney’s 2023 line-up is that Doug doesn’t like almost any of it (waiting for that Once Upon a Studio verdict)
I bet that will be what he ends with
This has not exactly been Disney's year if we are starting like this...
He really enjoyed Owl House, but movie rise yeah he hasn't been to kind to them so far.
For good reason. None of them were good. I'd rather watch Across The Spider-Verse again than watch whatever Wish was.
@@rommix0 There's that (Which is subjective), but frankly their marketing and promotion for these films just did not work at all. With the exception of Guardians 3, their attempts at selling these projects either backfired or were hampered by several factors (I.e. the Writers and Actors Strikes)
This is honestly my 2nd favorite movie of this year after The Super Mario Bros Movie
I saw The Super Mario Bros Movie too
This and Turning Red are movies where I came to realize something with the entertainment industry these days. Not every story needs to be for you. This is why representation matters.
It's more of an immigrant story. The lead on the movie put a lot of his experiences with how his family showed love into the fire family and how it didn't match what was all around him in a different culture. This is a component I can't relate much to.
What I can relate to is the romance. Ember and Wade are a great example of two people from different worlds coming together. I grew up in a religious family and was losing my faith when I met my wife. She was an atheist in a deeply religious town. She showed me how someone can conduct themselves with love and decency without the pretext of religion. It took years for her to show my family that she wasn't going to corrupt me and that she actually shared a lot of my values. There was even a moment when she confronted my mom at a hard time, and they found a new respect for each other. She later told me she felt like she was facing down a dragon and was terrified, but she cared more about me than she was scared of my mom. Stories like Ember and Wade get to us both.
It’s good this film became a Box office hit after its failure the first month.
Pixar has its potential to get back on track despite what others think
Get back on track?
Did they lose something? They haven't had a poorly received movie since Cars 2.
it wasn't a box office hit...
@@NeoConnor1*cough* Monsters U *cough* Lightyear *cough*
I actually saw it on Father’s Day with my family and we actually really enjoyed it and for us it was more a love story of Ember and her Father and honoring her relationship with him and the respect she has for him at least that was our takeaway Great Review Doug Can’t Wait For Your Next Disneycember 😊
I saw this movie and it have a more deeper meaning to it than it being another cliche troupe or even like Zootopia. A fire family from another land came to a bigger part of world to live and have a better life for their daughter Ember which somewhat ties in to immigration, which I could kinda see that with director being asian descent as well how this story is told. One thing when going into this movie is that you have to find a deeper meaning to it rather than see it as a standard family movie that's more than repeatitve troupe one does seen a dozen times.
Really liked this one. Perfect for a stay-at-home evening. One of maybe two movies that made me cry, too (I was hungover here though, which may have helped). After first watch, I'd say it's one of Pixars best, honestly, though maybe it won't hold up for rewatches. There's missed potential at places, but I was never bored and genuinely interested for the entire run-time.
I know you said Elemental is a story that’s been done before but to be fair we now live in a time where there isn’t much originality as there used to be. If a story has the same message as an already existing one that doesn’t mean it’s bad. We as humans are hesitant to try new things, we often stick to stuff we’re familiar with. I feel like Disney are afraid to try new ways of making movies, fearing they’ll disappoint us without even knowing they’ve been doing it for years now to the point anyone new from them is rarely good. They just keep coughing up live action remakes of classics we all grew up with and loved. There is like only one decent remake I’ve seen while the others I’ve seen are bad. And now they’re ruining Star Wars and the MCU. Not all of what they gave us is bad, but shows and films like Thor love and thunder, eternals, and especially the sequel Star Wars trilogy are proof that they’re loosing their magic. Like you Doug, I hope they rise up from this and get their act together. I hate that Disney are making me hate them
As much as I liked Zootopia, I definitely preferred Elemental. The biggest reasons because we’ve seen a ton of movies with animals, but not a lot that are elemental based. And I can tell how much heart was put into this film because the man who wrote it based it off of his own life, including him being with a non-Korean woman. Yes, it’s a plot that’s been done so many times but this movie didn’t make me feel bored and there wasn’t an unnecessary villain
On the sixth day of DisneyCember, the critic gave to me.
Six Daddy Issues
FIVE PREHISTORIC PIRATES !!!
Four Wasteful Wishes
Three Owl Beasts
Two Marvel Trashes
And a World of Dino People !
I really enjoyed this film. What I mainly appreciated was ember's relationship with her family and how she held the pressure of being an immigrant kid that wants to help their family's life and how that can affect your personal life (it's important to find a balance in your personal and family life). Not everyone can relate to this kind of message but I think it's worth acknowledging.
I actually ❤️❤❤❤ Elemental My favorite scene is where Wade takes Ember under water to see Vivisteria. A flower that can grow in any envirionment. That scene always reminds me of my other favorite water based movie Water World where The Mariner takes the girl to see the city of Denver underwater.
"Zootopia is the 'In The Heat of The Night' of Fisney Films"
Well, I've never heard that one before 😂
“Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked…”
I’ll say this I really dig the visuals to this movie. The way the people look in it are really cool and the way Ember ‘s body moves reminds me of something like the fire in a Ghibli movie.
I think the Spark of Elemental is really in how much you can relate. Theres an underlying echo of race, culture, balance etc that hits home for someone with similar experiences as Ember. Being too much, feeling indebted to family, adapting and flourishing in a world not made for you without losing your roots, and from that perspective to see through your biases and pit pride aside to admire and respect someone different from you. Theres alot going on imo, i think this is alot like a Ghibli movie (which it clealry has some influence of). Theres going to be one aspect that hits you, and youre going to feel it before you know what it is. It means its better when you rewatch it, and im sure if given the chance this kind of director can make more soft, elegant stories and like Ghibli, end up with a fanbase that ADORES a certain film above the others becaus it just hits right. Ghibli does that, everyone has a favorite, the one that REALLY feels like magic for them personally. I hope this director gets more opportunity, and im ashamed of the fact that i let the stupid marketing put me off this film for so long.
One of the better Disney movies to come out of 2023 and it flopped but since its' on Disney+ I have been watching it again and again.
The ending was at least enough to make me cry 😿
Doug: "She literally blows her top."
Me: "There's bare fire breasts in this?!"
i saw this movie in the theatre with my sister (who is a physics, chemistry teacher)
and she was able to spot all the chemical elemental jokes
including how Ember and Wade can touch, the Leidenfrost effect
Fun Fact: Elemental movie was based on the director’s life experiences growing up in New York City with two immigrant parents.
As a descendant of immigrants I saw my grandparents a lot in Ember’s parents. I think the generational story was pretty good and realistic. I love Zootopia too, but I do feel like this wasn’t a full copy of the movie. The world building was pretty cool too.
I absolutely adored and loved this movie!
I actually like Elemental. It’s not Pixar’s best movie, but it’s better than the last movies that they released.
This was genuinely one of the best romances I’ve seen done in a family movie. I’m shocked that Doug didn’t see the ‘chemistry’ between the two. It’s bursting at the seems with it
Can’t say I agree this movie made me ugly cry and I think it’s one of the better movies that Disney is done in a while at least since Encanto
On the 6th day of disneycember the critic gave for me:
You know this should have beeing the fourth day since how can i say theres "6 elements"?
FIVE NEW CONTINENTS
4 Stars of wishes
3 Broken spells
2 Swapping places
And a weird videogame movie for me
Honestly, this and _Onward_ are two of my favorite Pixar movies.
Onward >>>>> Elemental
Honestly, I think my favorite things about this movie was that it started out badly, but then overtime, it made enough money that it surpassed the Flash movie. Honestly, that is probably the funniest thing I've seen all year
On the sixth day of Disneycember. The critic gave to me
Six Tempers Blowing
Five Salty Sloths
Four Kings To Vent To
Three Cartoon Epics
Two Singing Planets
And a plumber from the 90's
I'm so glad you still are making relevant content youre freaking hilarious and you've been around forever I love your content!!!!
3:50 How ironic that in a film about the elements the main couple don't have any chemistry.
Listen Doug, I get ya hate certain tropes and wanna see new and creative things and thats fine, but not everything has to reinvent the wheel and sometimes some tropes exist for a reason.
I feel the tropes used in this movie ultimately service the story way more than detract from it, and while I too woulda liked fire people living inside a volcano, I don’t think not doing that exactly makes it boring.
I’m just sayin, sometimes tropes snd groundedness can work in a stories favor, and imo it definitely did with Elemental here, they just made it work.
Sorry Doug. I think this is a beautiful touching movie and i felt alot of magic watching it.
After watching so many movies, ofc you know all the tropes and such. The secret is to still be able to enjoy em nevertheless.
I enjoyed them all here and I LOVE this movie. And I totally believed the romance, I totally felt it.
I love the Love story plot! But the “race” plot kinda didn’t work too much. Like think about it: Water and fire COULD kill each other, Wind people could cause damage if they are too angry since they cause storms, and the earth peoples appearance could change due to water people. So when they call the other elements racist cuz they don’t want to mix with fire, it’s not! They are concerned for their safety! Like water could evaporate and earth might burn. The cloud people are the only ones who don’t have t wort since when they great broken they stick back together!
As a race plot... I can see what you mean, but if you look at it as an accessibility/disability allegory. They designed the city to let all the other three elements live together and didn't provide anything for the firepeople to go around the city safely. That's how a lot of disabled people are treated in society, that we may be dangerous or ruin things for abled people in public. You don't have to be waving sticks and calling them the r-word to be ableist.
So, I think it did a good job in that regard.
Fire can only transform water into steam which then cools into liquid form. Fire cannot kill water
There’s two reasons why Elemental struggled at the beginning:
1). Time of release. The movie was released the same month as Across The Spider-Verse [a movie that every Spider-Man fan (including kids) wants to see]. While you can see what's going to happen in Elemental when you first watch it, audiences will have no idea what direction the that Across The Spider-Verse goes (when first watching it).
2). How Disney have been treating Pixar. When COVID started, Disney put Pixar movies went straight to streaming on Disney Plus. That is the case for Soul, Luca, and Turning Red (which is also why they are putting all three movies in theaters next year). Because of this decision, people just assume all Pixar movies would be released on Disney Plus rather on the big screen first. You can argue that all because of COVID, but movies like No Way Home, the Mario movie,& Top Gun 2 made a lot of money at the box office.
This is the most vibes movie of the year. I do feel like its a disservice calling this "light Zootopia" since the focus is more in relationships and the immigrant experience. I do think it works very well as a context heavy film with a simple message that we can coexist even in a world full of prejudice and expectations. in a way, I am kinda glad not everyone fall in love with it as I and others do since this is a more personal movie for the director like Luca and Turning red. it found its audience in the US and especially abroad and that's a major accomplisment that no one can't take away.
I feel mixed on Elemental. I like the message especially for this who are families of immigrants. I'm glad Peter John, the director of Elemental and the Good Dinosaur, got to make a movie to reflect something about his parents. (I can't fully remember I just know it was about his parents.) I think the trailer did the movie dirty. I thought it would be a Romeo and Juliet romance story and it wasn't. I think the movie is just... decent. Not great, but not bad. I don't think it will be in everyone's top 10 Pixar movies but I don't see it being people's least favorite Pixar product
Definitely not bad. It was a movie made with love and it shows.
Fire elemental named Ember. How creative
Personally, Doug, I have to heavily disagree with you on this. I personally loved it and it was really cool to finally see Pixar tackle a romance-focused story because they really haven't done that in their catalog so far and I loved Ember and Wade's romance together over time. I didn't find them to be boring and I love how compassionate, supportive, and open-minded Wade is as a partner to Ember. I liked this being more of slice-of-life romance story with also the immigration aspect in regards to Ember and her parents (and I'm happy Peter Sohn got the opportunity to finally create his passion project based on his real life experiences as a Korean immigrant).
I won’t pretend this movie is amazing, but even as someone who was aware of all the cliches, I really enjoyed it. I really bought the romance, I really enjoyed the visuals, I was really invested in the story even when it was predictable. For me the climax nearly made me cry, because I was so invested in these characters that really emphasized how much I enjoyed this movie.
I think Doug makes valid points, but I guess this is why movies are subjective. I admit I am easy to please, but the enjoyment I had for this movie is not something I feel with movies I just find decent or passable. I genuinely found a lot to like in this movie at the end of the day!