Zuby always allows for a clam intellectual conversation, as opposed to the aggressive debating with the goal of making the other person look unintelligent.
Also helps when the women aren't being disagreeable just to be disagreeable. On many podcast you'll notice that when the issue is expanded upon they'll agree but will back track and disagree just to feel like they "won". A lot disingenuous conversations due to that.
exactly. Tate is similar in that vein as he has the ability to even strongly propose his views and still be liked by the table and allow for debate to occur etc. Fit just doesnt have it. He gets triggered too much, he is just fed up with the bs too much and rather would make them all look like fools than inducing possible change and new thoughts in at least some of them
Respect for being the coolest and most rational head in the room. Myron can get a bit heated & can trip on his guests sometimes. You have an ability to boil things down where people can truly understand your point of view. Keep it up
@@darkfx3208 🥺.....the world is Not fine...Canada is trying to sue and imprison anyone who uses The WRONG pronouns....🤔 Netherlands farmers have block the streets of the Major cities to change policys oppressing farming rights...
Zuby speaks with calm self assurance and the message lands. Myron comes across as frenetic and hyped up and the girls get bonkers. Same message, delivered two different ways.
Thats a terrible take. Myron deals with these 304’s on a daily basis and has to keep them or check it they will dominate the podcast. I love Zuby but that’s a apples and oranges comparison
Nah they don’t have the same message. Myron’s take is very sexist while zuby’s one is more calm and wants to bring true equality between both men and women
Because of people like Myron and Pearl and Andrew Tate I look at the world in a different lens and I am taking care of myself and getting my financials in order and being a better person not only for myself but for the people around me and I will not simp for any woman because today I know I am worth it
In countries with more egalitarian policies and laws between the sexes, a lot of couples fall back into typical gender roles. One of the key factors is enabling creating laws and social support structures to support the nuclear family... There's quite a bit of data on it actually, particularly within Scandinavia.
Bruh…. This guy is a breath of fresh air. Not trying to play for a side, just speaking on his opinions based on logical observations and determinations. I feel like wether you agree or disagree with someone you it’s good to be able to engage in discourse with them in a productive way and have basic respect for each other. You can just tell the guy’s thoughtful with his words. Nice to see.
Mahn! Zuby can break things down well. This is inspiring. Myron and team can really get even better if they start using your kind of reasoning on these issues. Kudos 🙌!
They guys aren't lazy. If you have great credit, own a home, good man, etc... Why would you risk your entire life earnings and future earnings when she could cheat and leave?
Why does the exception always have to be stated? Can we all agree that no matter what you are talking about, there are always exceptions to the rule? We are discussing the rule, which is the majority of the time
The laws where made in the past when most women where house wives. Child support and alimony where made for housewives, not career women. But now that we are equal, the laws need to represent that.
Zuby is amazing. He nails his points but does it with great mannerism. Myron, please take note of this because you're super reactive; pushy; interruptive and argumentative. Zuby is a breath of fresh air and still gets the point across.
If the women you’re interested in are responding to behaviors you don’t resonate with, change the women you’re interested in. Ideally to someone who’s more worthy.
Keep up the great Work Zuby. I have to say. What most people overlook is location. GET OUT OF THE CITIES. Once you do that you will find good people with morals and standards. If you are going to the cities to find a mate its right up there with going to a strip club to find love.
4:39 you're not being cocky at all Zuby. At a certain point the energy you put out ends up attracting that same energy toward you. Takes a minute to get to that point and to get to the awareness level of it as well without shooting yourself in the foot, though it takes many instances of failure to get there.
Zuby, can you interview "The Lead Attorney" or "Jonathan Noble"? Both are 20 - 30 year divorce lawyers. And have an interview around whether family court is biased against men and whether men should still get married in 2023? Like you, I live in the UK and I lost 70% of my money, assets, and home equity in my UK divorce. The point being that losing 50% is a myth and that divorce financially ruins men whereas the wife/mother's standard of living remains similar pre- and post-marriage. I think this partly explains why marriage is slowly going extinct. For example, according to the ONS, in the UK there used to be 400k marriages/year in the 1970's but now there are only 200k marriages/year. Myron's comments at 5:05 pretty much sum up the risks of marriage for men.
#1 Law if attraction = we attract who we are!!! Also, perspective. There are MILLIONS of people in relationships doing just fine. You only hear about singles....ones that do bad.....or that don't belong in ANY relationship (like this panel).
Very pertinent conversation to the current state of our generation in terms of male/female relationships, but yo at 9:50 did homeboy flash a Captain Ginyu notebook? :D
Im so glad that after i saw how usless and dangerous modern day women are in my 20's, i just worked hard, made money and now that im 42 and set for life i just pay for it and have the hottest chicks every other day.
I would say it is the father’s responsibility. To guide his daughters’ ideas of what is an ideal partner. And because so many people come from fatherless homes. They lack that guidance or example. And end up at the bottom of the barrel. The reason it is the fathers responsibility and priority is because the family line and future genrations require a good choice in mating. But where Zuby is correct, men will adapt the game to the environment where the rules are defined by the female sexual selection.
Zuby had the ability to speak in a manner that makes these women receive the information so much more effectively. Look how respectful these women are (I mean…in comparison to F&F’s other videos).
Women are the gatekeepers because men _allow_ it, never forget that. If we wanted it bad enough, or to fix society enough, we could just _take_ it. Don't *EVER* try to cope out of that 💊
Myron is not built for a conversation with someone like Zuby. He is the male version of the women he has on his show. You could tell him the sky is blue and he's gonna rebut with, " yeah but I'd argue that the sky isn't really blue based on scientific research it's actually turquoise"
@@osmosisbless you said that you don’t like that he provides statistical data and logical reasoning as to back up the things he said, that’s what I’m hearing
@@owencave7077 That's not what I said. But if that is what you heard tell me this, what is the fundamental scientific difference between Blue and Turquoise?
It always seems to be the case that the women who - ostensibly - fail to understand the concept of generalisations & argue on the basis of (rare) exceptions are examples of the generalisations being made, not of the exceptions being cited.
Not really a debate. They pretty much all agreed with you. In a way it's sad that you have to point out that what we're doing is clearly not working since we're not even replacing ourselves. If there was ever a thing to show that a culture is broken...
Why? Different methods for different folks. Some people respond well to calm discussion, others need loud, flashy, hyperbolic actions to pay attention. Take military training for example, can't get any better at showing how good the loud and flashy crowd is at getting people's attention, then once they meet certain standards you get calm discussion and training. The key is knowing when and on whom to use either method.
@@nerofl89 I seen too many clips ( among full videos ) where there is a lot of talking over each other. Obviously some people give back the same energy to make chaos. Just not a place where I would picture him being a guest... at least with more than 3 people at a time. That is why I was surprised, not leaning towards good or bad.
The whole idea of women preferring bad boys isn’t exclusively a western or an American society. It’s natural for women to prefer men who are dominant and masculine. That is the definition of a bad boy kind of guy
Ever since I went to college, it seems like no matter what the specific issue being discussed in male and female dynamics, the women always want to either qualify they personally are the exception to any generalized statements or they get hung up on the one exception to the ten thousand confirmed outcomes. And then they need you to clarify that they're the exception even if they openly have no skin in the claim being made. "As we know, women breathe through their noses." _Yeah but like I don't always like breathe through my nose. So you can't say that._
Yup, I tend towards thinking guys worked ourselves out of a job which is why we are here. Society itself has been built to be safe enough and prosperous enough that most of the time a girl really doesn't need a protector or provider. Until they do
to succeed in dating you have to be the leader and ignore anything she says; make it clear "i will never care abt your feelings, come to me with basic facts and i will fix the problems"
Garbage IN Garbage OUT. If you think -behave Garbage. Bad Musical Lyrics. Bad Ethics, Bad Time Management in General - You Provide Bad Influence to & For You - We All Reap What We Sow
A Modern Woman that wants to compete to be better than as many men as possible, yet still want a man that is way better than her, so she feels comfortable submitting, are playing themselves. A man looks for a woman to make his life better. A woman looks for a man to make her life easier.
I'm confused by 1 part of what was said here. If men are reacting to women's choices, then doesn't that mean the way dating is now is because of women? They are the ones deciding which men are successful.
This was absolutely painful to sit and listen to. The amount of hypocritical arguments by that woman and the COMPLETE lack of intellectual awareness hurt my brain. How you can make an argument, then dispute it when it’s used on you in the exact same way, and NOT NOTICE IT ONCE is just beyond my ability to understand.
For the folks who say Myron should adopt more of zubys style the thing is that's supposed to be fresh's job Myron needed to be the way he was for their podcast to be popular, fresh just isn't that well versed on the topics they speak about or isn't articulate enough. It's kinda like good cop bad cop. Controversial figures always blow up faster
More people like Zuby please. Otherwise western society is finished.
Can we make up right on Hood Names Too ? Oh oh Oh. And do that Snope Dawg gangsta talking s. & conversating Too. I'm s Flat Spiff on dis
It's been finished for a while now.
Aqqd
I am told that we should be slightly more white pilled because his views are more representetive of the majority views.
@@drimrankhan77 ?
Zuby always allows for a clam intellectual conversation, as opposed to the aggressive debating with the goal of making the other person look unintelligent.
Plenty of clams having intellectual discussions
Also helps when the women aren't being disagreeable just to be disagreeable. On many podcast you'll notice that when the issue is expanded upon they'll agree but will back track and disagree just to feel like they "won". A lot disingenuous conversations due to that.
exactly. Tate is similar in that vein as he has the ability to even strongly propose his views and still be liked by the table and allow for debate to occur etc.
Fit just doesnt have it. He gets triggered too much, he is just fed up with the bs too much and rather would make them all look like fools than inducing possible change and new thoughts in at least some of them
they make themselves unintelligent you just to stupid to realize it and you always wanna blame the one that ARGUES WITH LOGIC
@@davideojockey6237 “you’re” 🤦♂️
Respect for being the coolest and most rational head in the room. Myron can get a bit heated & can trip on his guests sometimes. You have an ability to boil things down where people can truly understand your point of view. Keep it up
myron has to do with daily 😅😓
@@ascendtoaesthetics THen don't have women on then. He says he doesnt need them
That Asian girl was trying soooo hard to get scooped by Zuby
bruh the way she was looking at him gotdayum
Zuby doobee doo me.😆
I thought I was tripping, she was!!!
Like a piece of chocolate cake 😂
Yo I peeped that haha
Finally someone that kept EVERYONE accountable. Together keeps the world going. 🙏🏾
ya love to see it
Lol, the world is fine.
Fix murica. And until you do it - leave the rest of the world alone. Build a wall, stay inside.
@@darkfx3208 🥺.....the world is Not fine...Canada is trying to sue and imprison anyone who uses The WRONG pronouns....🤔 Netherlands farmers have block the streets of the Major cities to change policys oppressing farming rights...
@@darkfx3208 Murica...🇺🇸😎🇺🇸😎.hell son, and shoot, and Dangnab
Zuby needs to be everywhere. His style is more digestible to more people. He calms everyone and people are more receptive.
So proud of how far Zuby has come I remember buying his rap albums in Bournemouth town centre :) the guy is a legend
Sunny Bournemouth..... hell of a town
Zubys calm demeanor is wild
"Why would they try knowing there's a 95% chance of failure"
"So you're saying there's a chance" - Dumb and Dumber
Women work on possibilities, men work on probabilities.
-Rollo Tomassi
Zuby speaks with calm self assurance and the message lands. Myron comes across as frenetic and hyped up and the girls get bonkers. Same message, delivered two different ways.
Thats a terrible take. Myron deals with these 304’s on a daily basis and has to keep them or check it they will dominate the podcast. I love Zuby but that’s a apples and oranges comparison
@@BasedDad35 Don't have them on then. He says he doesn't need them.
Nah they don’t have the same message. Myron’s take is very sexist while zuby’s one is more calm and wants to bring true equality between both men and women
I never thought I’d see so many good looking women that I want nothing to do with
Bunch of sixes without the cakeup. "Good looking"
Would they want anything to do with you?
To answer the questions: no, they would not want me, I’m married and have three kids.
I was just making a snarky comment from my younger self.
@H Holland its a bunch of those "independent women" coming at you.
I'll take Asian bird
Myron: Redpill talking points
Zuby: Well technically, men let that happen
Love the accountability.
Myron has actually said all the points Zuby made. He has always said men need to be accountable. And he holds women on their accountability.
Myron has never only placed accountability on women exclusively.
Because of people like Myron and Pearl and Andrew Tate I look at the world in a different lens and I am taking care of myself and getting my financials in order and being a better person not only for myself but for the people around me and I will not simp for any woman because today I know I am worth it
@@redmatrixxno. Most of Myron’s points are not aligned with what Zuby was saying
@@jonjonboi3701 like what exactly?
In countries with more egalitarian policies and laws between the sexes, a lot of couples fall back into typical gender roles. One of the key factors is enabling creating laws and social support structures to support the nuclear family... There's quite a bit of data on it actually, particularly within Scandinavia.
Bruh…. This guy is a breath of fresh air. Not trying to play for a side, just speaking on his opinions based on logical observations and determinations.
I feel like wether you agree or disagree with someone you it’s good to be able to engage in discourse with them in a productive way and have basic respect for each other.
You can just tell the guy’s thoughtful with his words.
Nice to see.
Like Chernobyl.
Haha the woman of course always brings up the exception when Zuby is talking about the rule
They always do
Mahn! Zuby can break things down well. This is inspiring. Myron and team can really get even better if they start using your kind of reasoning on these issues. Kudos 🙌!
They guys aren't lazy.
If you have great credit, own a home, good man, etc...
Why would you risk your entire life earnings and future earnings when she could cheat and leave?
Zuby is one of the most intelligent, articulate and well spoken person I've ever seen in the redpill community 👌👌
Zuby always talks a lot of sense.
For straightforward, common sense discussion Zuby is my favourite F&F guest
Zuby is like a Shoalin monk...wiser than most
Why does the exception always have to be stated? Can we all agree that no matter what you are talking about, there are always exceptions to the rule? We are discussing the rule, which is the majority of the time
That's because women love the exceptions. It allows them room to avoid accountability for their actions and decisions.
@@iykeharrison9161 I'm a woman who is an exception to that exception then! 😅
@@iykeharrison9161that’s sexist and not true that women in general say that because they don’t want accountability
Chick to the right (stage left) of him is feeling him! Thats the power of a confident, well spoken man
The Asian chick? She was SMITTEN.
yo Zuby that girl on your immediate right was feeling everything you said! 🤣🤣
she wants him lol
My Waifu nods constantly like this when on low battery.🤣
@@mickeyc2137 she said she's into white dudes tho
@@305Independent not after tonight, lol
@@305Independent Watch what they do not what they say.
The laws where made in the past when most women where house wives.
Child support and alimony where made for housewives, not career women.
But now that we are equal, the laws need to represent that.
Man Zuby is a great talker.
Has been ... for many years. He is also a great thinker, because whatever he says makes sense.
ZUBY JUST SPEAKS SENSE IN A CALM BUT STRAIGHT DEMINA
Zuby is amazing. He nails his points but does it with great mannerism. Myron, please take note of this because you're super reactive; pushy; interruptive and argumentative. Zuby is a breath of fresh air and still gets the point across.
If the women you’re interested in are responding to behaviors you don’t resonate with, change the women you’re interested in. Ideally to someone who’s more worthy.
Very calm and you articulate really good points. Definitely know how to get ppl to respectfully listen and understand you at the same time.
That was a pleasant way to get your point across. It's refreshing for yelling to not be involved.
Another great commentary on the modern vs traditional copulation/marriage dance, and how modern women fall ridiculously short and they don't know it
Great conversation. Lots of good points were made.
Keep up the great Work Zuby.
I have to say. What most people overlook is location. GET OUT OF THE CITIES. Once you do that you will find good people with morals and standards. If you are going to the cities to find a mate its right up there with going to a strip club to find love.
The girl to Zuby's right was about to jump on his lap! 🤣
He got her wet for sure 😏
4:39 you're not being cocky at all Zuby. At a certain point the energy you put out ends up attracting that same energy toward you.
Takes a minute to get to that point and to get to the awareness level of it as well without shooting yourself in the foot, though it takes many instances of failure to get there.
Nice job elevating the conversation beyond the repetitive and stale standard manosphere talking points.
That asian next to Zuby is prime and ready for him.
3:54 DO DO LOL
Wow if only all men were as honourable and reasonable as Zuby ♥️♥️♥️
Very interesting. Yes, who you attract might indicate who YOU are.
Are you the gatekeeper? I am the key master 😂
Zuby, can you interview "The Lead Attorney" or "Jonathan Noble"? Both are 20 - 30 year divorce lawyers. And have an interview around whether family court is biased against men and whether men should still get married in 2023? Like you, I live in the UK and I lost 70% of my money, assets, and home equity in my UK divorce. The point being that losing 50% is a myth and that divorce financially ruins men whereas the wife/mother's standard of living remains similar pre- and post-marriage. I think this partly explains why marriage is slowly going extinct. For example, according to the ONS, in the UK there used to be 400k marriages/year in the 1970's but now there are only 200k marriages/year. Myron's comments at 5:05 pretty much sum up the risks of marriage for men.
The lady next to Zuby was choosing hard.
The DEARTH of single Moms with multiple baby daddies on every dating app is a flashing neon sign that says ‘she fucked up.’
Zuby is awesome. Thoughtful and nuanced views
Zuby dropping bombs but the modern woman quickly wants to avoid logic and garner attention for herself 9:03
#1 Law if attraction = we attract who we are!!!
Also, perspective. There are MILLIONS of people in relationships doing just fine. You only hear about singles....ones that do bad.....or that don't belong in ANY relationship (like this panel).
1st time I have heard this dude Zuby speak, he makes really good points in a very calm easy to listen to manner
@@Martin-bj8eq Yeah like most conservatives I agree with almost everything but when it comes to Israel they become cucks for Israel
Like conservatives will bootlick Jews like crazy
"Are you going to take the chance knowing there is a 95% failure rate?"
"You got to."
- actual quotes.
Very pertinent conversation to the current state of our generation in terms of male/female relationships, but yo at 9:50 did homeboy flash a Captain Ginyu notebook? :D
Im so glad that after i saw how usless and dangerous modern day women are in my 20's, i just worked hard, made money and now that im 42 and set for life i just pay for it and have the hottest chicks every other day.
I would say it is the father’s responsibility. To guide his daughters’ ideas of what is an ideal partner. And because so many people come from fatherless homes. They lack that guidance or example. And end up at the bottom of the barrel. The reason it is the fathers responsibility and priority is because the family line and future genrations require a good choice in mating.
But where Zuby is correct, men will adapt the game to the environment where the rules are defined by the female sexual selection.
Zuby, you're very reasonable, I appreciate that. If people are attracting trash they need to look at themselves. There are great people out there
Zuby > Fresh and Fit
When these divorce policies were created, "no fault divorce" didn't exist. That is the change that disenfranchised men from marriage benefits.
Buddy talking in the beginning is highly accurate & intelligent 🧠
Zuby
Zuby had the ability to speak in a manner that makes these women receive the information so much more effectively. Look how respectful these women are (I mean…in comparison to F&F’s other videos).
Very intelligent and well spoken man
5:11 gunner killed me 😂
Women are the gatekeepers because men _allow_ it, never forget that.
If we wanted it bad enough, or to fix society enough, we could just _take_ it.
Don't *EVER* try to cope out of that 💊
Miss Asia is loving him😅
Myron is not built for a conversation with someone like Zuby. He is the male version of the women he has on his show. You could tell him the sky is blue and he's gonna rebut with, " yeah but I'd argue that the sky isn't really blue based on scientific research it's actually turquoise"
But he’s right 99% of the time though…. You just don’t like the delivery
@@owencave7077 yeah but I'd argue , actually scratch that. I literally said what I didn't like. and the delivery has nothing to do with it
@@osmosisbless you said that you don’t like that he provides statistical data and logical reasoning as to back up the things he said, that’s what I’m hearing
@@owencave7077 That's not what I said. But if that is what you heard tell me this, what is the fundamental scientific difference between Blue and Turquoise?
Holy cow, Zuby nailed it. I haven’t heard that perspective yet.
It always seems to be the case that the women who - ostensibly - fail to understand the concept of generalisations & argue on the basis of (rare) exceptions are examples of the generalisations being made, not of the exceptions being cited.
As a man beyond dating age
I really feel bad for good average men that are seeking marriage
There are no marriage minded women in society today
You should feel bad for men seeking marriage _period_
Marriage is the sham it's always been, nothing of value for men there. Let it die.
Indeed
Not really a debate. They pretty much all agreed with you. In a way it's sad that you have to point out that what we're doing is clearly not working since we're not even replacing ourselves. If there was ever a thing to show that a culture is broken...
Living in caves was "time-tested", as well, but we upgraded.
Rewatched this full episode and the asian girl was HEAVY on Zuby with the body language the entire episode
DrB thats some great facts!
There's few people I've seen hold a room like Zuby in these 'red pill' group podcast things.
Surprised you went on this platform Z. What was your impression afterwards?
He’s a fan of fnf
Why? Different methods for different folks. Some people respond well to calm discussion, others need loud, flashy, hyperbolic actions to pay attention. Take military training for example, can't get any better at showing how good the loud and flashy crowd is at getting people's attention, then once they meet certain standards you get calm discussion and training. The key is knowing when and on whom to use either method.
@@nerofl89 I seen too many clips ( among full videos ) where there is a lot of talking over each other. Obviously some people give back the same energy to make chaos. Just not a place where I would picture him being a guest... at least with more than 3 people at a time. That is why I was surprised, not leaning towards good or bad.
Zuby and Chisha Zed need to team up this year.
BINGO! makes logical sense 👍🏿
Gunna poppin up talmbout 'would you date a snitch' 💀
Smashed it. Great to see good logic and common sense being exhibited still
Such a well spoken argument Zuby
The whole idea of women preferring bad boys isn’t exclusively a western or an American society. It’s natural for women to prefer men who are dominant and masculine. That is the definition of a bad boy kind of guy
Ever since I went to college, it seems like no matter what the specific issue being discussed in male and female dynamics, the women always want to either qualify they personally are the exception to any generalized statements or they get hung up on the one exception to the ten thousand confirmed outcomes. And then they need you to clarify that they're the exception even if they openly have no skin in the claim being made.
"As we know, women breathe through their noses."
_Yeah but like I don't always like breathe through my nose. So you can't say that._
I know the myrons high energy secret he watches dragon ballz 😂😂😂 he has dragonballz book😂😂
Yup, I tend towards thinking guys worked ourselves out of a job which is why we are here. Society itself has been built to be safe enough and prosperous enough that most of the time a girl really doesn't need a protector or provider. Until they do
Well it would have been nice to know wtf he was commenting on in the beginning.
Zuby is the man
Every Man is a Customer Now!!!!!!!!! lol
to succeed in dating you have to be the leader and ignore anything she says; make it clear "i will never care abt your feelings, come to me with basic facts and i will fix the problems"
Need more brave vocal Christians like Zuby. Not the weak, passive feminine pastors that currently run the church hierarchy
Myron always has to throw some disrespect out there.
Garbage IN Garbage OUT. If you think -behave Garbage. Bad Musical Lyrics. Bad Ethics, Bad Time Management in General - You Provide Bad Influence to & For You - We All Reap What We Sow
Bro you need to read our brother Chinweizu's "The Anatomy of Female Power: A Masculinist Dissection of Matriarchy.
The Asian chick's expression at 8:30 🤣🤣. she's like, 'oh shit' zuby just dropped the bomb on RUclips💀
5:47 The men who created those laws did not “take a massive L”. For the men at the top of society and the levers of power (
I was about to search your channel Bro, here it is... FOLLOOOOOOW at once 👌👌👌
It always amazes me I’m in a 3% category at 6’2”.
A Modern Woman that wants to compete to be better than as many men as possible, yet still want a man that is way better than her, so she feels comfortable submitting, are playing themselves.
A man looks for a woman to make his life better. A woman looks for a man to make her life easier.
The girl beside Fresh is pretty. Not simping, not everything is simping.
Also Zuby is too logical for emotional creatures like women. 💁🏻♂️
I'm confused by 1 part of what was said here. If men are reacting to women's choices, then doesn't that mean the way dating is now is because of women? They are the ones deciding which men are successful.
I think both men and women should sign a pre coital agreement relating to, pregnancy, abortion, financial and emotional support.
Did anyone else catch what she said around 3.57? She said women doo doo!!!!!
This was absolutely painful to sit and listen to.
The amount of hypocritical arguments by that woman and the COMPLETE lack of intellectual awareness hurt my brain. How you can make an argument, then dispute it when it’s used on you in the exact same way, and NOT NOTICE IT ONCE is just beyond my ability to understand.
For the folks who say Myron should adopt more of zubys style the thing is that's supposed to be fresh's job Myron needed to be the way he was for their podcast to be popular, fresh just isn't that well versed on the topics they speak about or isn't articulate enough. It's kinda like good cop bad cop. Controversial figures always blow up faster
"More and more financially emancipated women mimic psychopathic men, adopting both their misbehaviors and their traits."
-Dr. Sam Vaknin