According to Homer, the Trojan War lasted 10-years. “The Iliad” recounts the tenth year. “The Odyssey” covers another 10 years. Therefore, Odysseus was away from Ithaca for 20 total years. 12 years is OK!!!
Who was convinced that these two were dating but then I realized they might not be and now I'm just realizing that they just seem like really close friends and I'm just going to stop talking now
Haha, yeah, it's because all the animators design Odysseus to look like Jorge. They do the same with more other characters too, like Polites, Eurylochus, and Penelope!
If I remember right he’s being coerced into sex, she IS seducing and manipulating him, but the premise is that he really needs her help and she’s using that as leverage. In retrospect it’s like the plot of one of those cruel CEO ML romance stories where even though the protagonist gets kinda into it later, they wouldn’t have started the relationship if they weren’t threatened first
I just love the rhyming pattern in this snippet There are other wAYS of persuAsion There are other mOdes of contrOl There are other mEAns of decEIt There are other rOAds to the sOUl There are other ActIONs of pAssION
Friendly reminder to the differences from Hamilton and Odysseus: Hamilton had a choice. A lady appeared on his door and gave a suggestion to do something suggestive. Odysseus however had to save his men that he promised he would get home. If he hadn’t slept with her then his men would stay pigs. Odysseus didn’t have a choice. Hamilton did xoxo
I can’t wait for Circe’s Saga to come. I’ve been listening to the released songs and I am so excited for her part. She’s literally my favourite in the whole Greek mythology.( Medea on second place)
You were literally created to be Circe- your voice is amazing and it gives me goosebumps every single time. Yours runs, your emotion, the power it holds (you are the puppeteer ;)) and ahh it's so good! How do you do it?? 😭
I swear if Epic becomes Broadway musical. I pray they keep the original cast, because this was cool to see. Also, that audience is going to have a hard time not singing along. But at the same time, it would be awesome to hear them singing, too. Just nothing but love and support going around.
@@talyasindel Out of curiosity, Do you have a general estimation of when the songs will be released? I am super excited and don’t want to miss the premiere! I know it will be worth the wait though! :)
The chemistry between you two when this came out was the reason I started listening to all the sagas 😂😂😂 there was only the Trojan and poly saga back then
This is exactly how i imagine this scene playing out. When this is made into a movie, I'm going to be very disappointed if it doesn't turn out like this. ❤
That. Was. Brilliant. Again, you too are amazing actors as well as amazing singers. I love they way he fought physical contact at first and then slowly gave in. Easily one of the hottest scenes I've every seen.
I also forgot to show that her acting and it may just be song acting but her acting is really good because in the odyssey they do the naughty naughty and this song and like I said in the comment above it’s shows the sexual tension between Circe and Odysseus in the odyssey (I love history so I know quite a lot about mythology and I love epic because they show one of my favourite books of all time in music witch I love )
This is exactly why I can't wait for this to be adapted to a stage performance, it's going to be absolutely magnificent and heart wrenching. I pray I can be a part of it some day, thank you for your incredible work Jay and everyone else involved❤
I wish I could be in the musical! This is amazing! But my parents wouldn't want me to go on Discord and people say my singing voice is too high. So instead, I will support you guys as much as I can 😀 👍
I just keep listening to this on loop! 😍 Amazing voice! You are the perfect Circe and I just can’t wait for the Circe saga to be released so I can hear the full version!
Omg I love this version!!! The passion in the voices..you can HEAR Odysseus hesitating. Circe gritting her teeth..a growl!! Let's get this version next please Mr.Jalapeño!
I have a theory, in my opinion Hermes didnt gave enough molly and circe put a love spell on odysseus, all this song have this vibe of magic and "so much power, so much power but theres no puppet here" is like the final hit
"Woah, her voice sounds so much like circe!" "His hair looks so similar to Jay's!" *Jorge turns around* "Woah, he looks exactly like him" *starts to wonder if this is the real jorge* *looks at the creator* "Oh" *subscribes*
the deadliest weapon ever... i present to you... A FORK! *WHEEEEEEZE*
Bringing back my stupid dsmp phase again bc of that dam fork
@@Tw1nkerb3llsPjo reference?🎉
FORK WRATH
I bet you are now laughing about this comment 😂 because odyssey deftenetly took your advice
And the most deadly model of fork…THE FLIMSY PLASTIC CAFETERIA FORKKKKK!!!!! Fearrrr himmmmm
According to Homer, the Trojan War lasted 10-years. “The Iliad” recounts the tenth year. “The Odyssey” covers another 10 years. Therefore, Odysseus was away from Ithaca for 20 total years. 12 years is OK!!!
Also, Odysseus spends 1 year on Circe's island and 7 years on Calypso's. So if you add all that, it'll still be 20 years
The fork
@@k.s.a9597he spends a YEAR on circes island!?!
@@Junipershroom In the source material, yes. Odysseus willingly stays in Circe's island for a year
@@k.s.a9597 also in the source material, odys relationship with circe is erm... different...
Odysseus: s-step back ma'awm I have a fowk
lol
And then the fork had to be censored 😂😂
The fork mystery will never be solved
Who was convinced that these two were dating but then I realized they might not be and now I'm just realizing that they just seem like really close friends and I'm just going to stop talking now
@@A_daughter_of_Neptune oh Jay and Talya?? No they are dating :)
I didn't realize he actually was using a plastic fork, i thought it was a joke😅
Wait i thought sooo tooo
The fact that these two are actually dating just made my whole day
They are??
@@Someone_somewhere6 Yess!! Talya and Jorge have been dating for a while now!
The fact that they weren’t even dating in this clip yet makes it better.
@@k.hizzle5376I think that the seduction worked
They are??? Man I was like they are so good at acting but they probably weren't and were at the same time lol
is it just me or does Jay look like Odysseus
Legit me every time i see him
Haha, yeah, it's because all the animators design Odysseus to look like Jorge. They do the same with more other characters too, like Polites, Eurylochus, and Penelope!
Yup
@@cassia2399 there was a brief moment where I thought you meant all the characters were designed to look like Jorge
I can't tell if Odysseus is into it or if he needs someone to call the police
I believe circe was like genuinely obsessed with him but he was like, “cool, now can you get me home?” In the odyssey lol
yes
If he anything feels drugged/drunk. Circe making him lose grip to the outside world and his obligations to it.
If I remember right he’s being coerced into sex, she IS seducing and manipulating him, but the premise is that he really needs her help and she’s using that as leverage. In retrospect it’s like the plot of one of those cruel CEO ML romance stories where even though the protagonist gets kinda into it later, they wouldn’t have started the relationship if they weren’t threatened first
His expressions infer the latter lol
I can just imagine if the nymph we're there being like: "should we be seeing this ?"
😂😂
I imagine them covering their eyes with their fingers but peaking shyly.
this is what circe was trying to protect them from
💀💀💀
Lol
NOT THE FORK TO THE THROAT 😂😂😂✨✨
😅🤷♀️
the most valiant of weapons, truly
She could turn him to an 🧅! Don’t give her the tool to finish you off, my guy!
Tiny four pronged knife
My name is Sage too, and this is what I thought of first. 😂
He threatened her with the most deadliest weapon there has ever been the fork know for hurting tongues
😂😂😂
Dinglehoppers are valid weapons
best weapon ever made
No one will probably both find it and get it but mr stabby needs to be in Epic
Remember, a fork is really just a stealth trident, the weapon of choice of Poseidon himself.
I love when she first touches him, he looks at her like “Girl, get your hands off my face”. 😂
Love your pfp
My fellow dam readrs, we ignite.
Dam pjo fans assemble!🔱🧠🐐
Fr 😂😂 also "perclassy"
@@tarrahhicks1723 CHARGE!
I just love the rhyming pattern in this snippet
There are other wAYS of persuAsion
There are other mOdes of contrOl
There are other mEAns of decEIt
There are other rOAds to the sOUl
There are other ActIONs of pAssION
So much keen to details ❤
barology expert lol
huge fan of assonance in music
explains why it scratches my brain right
It's also in a nice 3/4 time to keep it's tango rhythmic pattern
Jorge the whole song: 👁👄👁
😂💁🏻♀️
Circe the whole song: 😏😏😏👁️👄👁️
@@Epic_Halfblood you're my type of person with the pjo and the winion
@@anhadsingh1011 :D
Odysseus in EPIC: doesn't fall for Circe
Odysseus irl(Jorge) : Dating Circe (Talya)
The fork really is a threatening weapon 😃
🤷♀️😂
TRUE
Friendly reminder to the differences from Hamilton and Odysseus:
Hamilton had a choice. A lady appeared on his door and gave a suggestion to do something suggestive.
Odysseus however had to save his men that he promised he would get home. If he hadn’t slept with her then his men would stay pigs.
Odysseus didn’t have a choice. Hamilton did xoxo
And in this version, Odysseus doesn't sleep with Circe regardless lmao
as soon as this song is released it’s all I’ll be playing for at least a week
Can’t wait for you to hear it!! :)
Ody looks a little traumatised.
He's also like: "Ma'am I am willing to use my fork on you."
eCUSE ME Madame he is MARRIED!!
Let's not talk about that in the mythology later, when Odysseus died , Circe got together with Telemachus...
I- WHAT @@autumn_leaves_in_a_bottle
@@autumn_leaves_in_a_bottlethe fuck darlin
@@autumn_leaves_in_a_bottle💀 that’s greattttt
At least he’s loyal in this version🫠
I can’t wait for Circe’s Saga to come. I’ve been listening to the released songs and I am so excited for her part. She’s literally my favourite in the whole Greek mythology.( Medea on second place)
Ooh yay I’m so excited for you to hear the full saga!! ☺️❤️
1000% AGREE 😍
You have something for witches 😭
Just a joke, I love them too
Feb 14th!!
Say no to this from hamilton kind of vibes
For reaaalll. Both had a wife
TwT the crew members in the back like: SAY NO TO THIS!
THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT
Every great musical has a Say no to this song🙌
Well in this case my man doesn’t really have much of an alternative it’s either this or his men stay pigs and he’s stuck on the island
You were literally created to be Circe- your voice is amazing and it gives me goosebumps every single time. Yours runs, your emotion, the power it holds (you are the puppeteer ;)) and ahh it's so good! How do you do it?? 😭
Oh gosh wow thank you!!
OMG THE JUST A MEN REFFRENCES ARE PERFECT
Welp. I'm definitely affected by her spell move over Odysseus!
Odysseus seriously putted a fork up to Circe’s throat 😂
I swear if Epic becomes Broadway musical. I pray they keep the original cast, because this was cool to see. Also, that audience is going to have a hard time not singing along. But at the same time, it would be awesome to hear them singing, too. Just nothing but love and support going around.
Can we talk about Talya's voice?! Girl is literally on fire!!!!! She's the best option for Circe there was! Girly rocks!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much!! 🥹
Ikr❤️
You and Jorge are soo cute together ❤❤❤
Bro Odysseus was probably thinking “this song is dance is nice but like can I just get my men back?”
I got this recomended to me again just after the ithaca saga has come out
So wish there was a full version. This song is so beautiful and enchanting.
There soon will be!! It’ll be released in a few months-can’t wait for you to hear it!!
@@talyasindel YAY!
@@talyasindel can’t wait!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
@@talyasindel Out of curiosity,
Do you have a general estimation of when the songs will be released? I am super excited and don’t want to miss the premiere! I know it will be worth the wait though! :)
@@foxiewithamoxieI believe the date hasn't officially been announced yet, but it will be out this year :)
Jorge: “Talya I literally just wanted to know if I could have the last dumpling.”
What's Odysseus gonna do with a fork? Make an omelette?
"what r you going to do with a sonic screwdriver? assemble a shelf?" energy
I NEED A FULL VERSION, LIKE, YESTERDAY
Haha soon soon!! ❤️
@@talyasindel how soon there's a whole ocean between now and this full song 😢
@@louise102nd yes 😭
FEB 14 BABY WE WILL HAVE IT HELL YEAH
The acting here just gave me complete chills despite the fork!! LOL and also 😮
The ability for Jorge to keep a straight face throughout this is one I will envy forever.
Nice job. 👏💗
Incredible voice!! Perfect for that role.
The camera man: 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣
The way Circe was Flirting with him and Odysseus just Beliving her. XD.
(Idk if Circe WAS or WASNT flirting with him-)
Circe: I could kill you were you stand
Ody: fork
Hah😂
Your vocals blend in really well with each other! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😄
Thank you!!
Love how he’s using a fork instead of at least a butter knife 😭
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THE FORK TO THE THROAT
The fork literally killed me 🤣🤣🤣
This chemistry, both both in voice but also in video, made my day
The chemistry between you two when this came out was the reason I started listening to all the sagas 😂😂😂 there was only the Trojan and poly saga back then
This is exactly how i imagine this scene playing out. When this is made into a movie, I'm going to be very disappointed if it doesn't turn out like this. ❤
literally crying of laughter right now I can only imagine how does an interaction will go IRL😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, these two are gorgeous, the chemistry! So good, the tension from the song was still prominent even with Ody's weapon being a fork 😅
Wow… peak acting! 🤩
Circe Saga is my favourite. Thank you all for this magic.
Ummm are you a siren? This was incredible! Waiting for the full version😩
Thank you!!
I NEED TO SEE THIS AS A STAGE MUSICAL
Rewatchng this to prep for the Circe coming out on February 14th!
Fear the plastic fork
I’ve loved everything that’s come out, but this saga is the one I’m looking forward to the most and I can’t wait!! 😆😆
Thanos's worst enemy...A FORK
The fact that they are also madly in love irl makes this SO much better ❤
The fork so. Deadly.
That. Was. Brilliant. Again, you too are amazing actors as well as amazing singers. I love they way he fought physical contact at first and then slowly gave in. Easily one of the hottest scenes I've every seen.
Thank you!!
Like I said before her voice is the best because it’s a posh but made the voice is made for Circe. I just live it ❤
I also forgot to show that her acting and it may just be song acting but her acting is really good because in the odyssey they do the naughty naughty and this song and like I said in the comment above it’s shows the sexual tension between Circe and Odysseus in the odyssey (I love history so I know quite a lot about mythology and I love epic because they show one of my favourite books of all time in music witch I love )
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
@@summersolstice8942 hiiiiii
This is exactly why I can't wait for this to be adapted to a stage performance, it's going to be absolutely magnificent and heart wrenching. I pray I can be a part of it some day, thank you for your incredible work Jay and everyone else involved❤
The ✨fork✨ pray for her life guys 🙏
THE OVERLAPPING 😩
THE HAMONIES. THE HARMONIESSSS 😩😩😩 AAAAAAHH
I CAN HEAR THE DIFFERNT PARTS OF THE HARMONY SO MUCH BETTER IN THIS
The sheer speed of fold for cerci in any song is insane, ody is a better man than I
That fork though...very subtle😂😂😂
The fork made me laugh out loud.
Relation ship goals
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS THANK YOU
Haha my pleasure!!
I wish I could be in the musical! This is amazing! But my parents wouldn't want me to go on Discord and people say my singing voice is too high. So instead, I will support you guys as much as I can 😀 👍
Thank you!! And ah I’m sure your singing voice is lovely! :)
Another instance in which the background music has me slayed
I just keep listening to this on loop! 😍
Amazing voice! You are the perfect Circe and I just can’t wait for the Circe saga to be released so I can hear the full version!
Thank you so much!
Such good acting!!
The way circe is all sneaky and steals the fork
Your voices are beautiful together!!!!❤❤❤
Omg I love this version!!! The passion in the voices..you can HEAR Odysseus hesitating. Circe gritting her teeth..a growl!! Let's get this version next please Mr.Jalapeño!
Duude Jay is such a good actor
He sounds like Lin Manuel Maranda to me! And I fuckin love it this is definitely say no to this kind of vibes 😭
THE FORK! BAHAHAHAHA! Also, jorge’s faces are amazing ! He looks terrified, but like- not? Its funny
Your voice is so mesmerizing, it's perfect for Circe
Thank you!!
It feels like she's teaching him. Oddyseus is so very.... He knows tricks and is very witty but like.... She knows this aspect of tricks better tho
I have a theory, in my opinion Hermes didnt gave enough molly and circe put a love spell on odysseus, all this song have this vibe of magic and "so much power, so much power but theres no puppet here" is like the final hit
"Though it's only for a moment, 'til you've beaten your opponent"
"You've lost."
Circe getting freaky 😭
You were made for Circe I’ve listened to all of the Circe songs in epic so many times I love it your amazing I’m so glad your doing Circe ❤❤
Thank you so much!
@@talyasindel OF COURSE 🫶🏻
The fact that you guys play the roles of Circe and Odysseus and are dating just seals this scene into the foundation of EPIC
I can’t find anything more threatening than being held at fork point
There was more emotion in this than I've felt all year (other than listening to all the songs)
The fork goes crazy
Jorge and Talya
Love the fork to the neck
Something crazy happened after recording
So this is what it would look like if there was a play. I really like it actually
My first thought was ‘he really just said “fork you”’
the fork stop
NOT THE FORK ANYTHING BUT THE FORK!!!!!
"Lord٫ tell me how to say no to this.."
Considering how obsessed with epic I am I am surprised it took this long for you to appear on my shorts lmao
Her facial expressions in the first part, I can't -
Friends, the weapon is called a “dinglehopper”
"Woah, her voice sounds so much like circe!"
"His hair looks so similar to Jay's!"
*Jorge turns around*
"Woah, he looks exactly like him"
*starts to wonder if this is the real jorge*
*looks at the creator*
"Oh"
*subscribes*
Not the fork as a weapon 😂😂😂