Sonic Guide: Down B vs Side B & Advanced Tech | Clockwork Videos
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Get to know Down B vs Side B and the advanced tech you can perform with them!
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A Sonic guide has been one of my most requested videos to do for a long time so I'm happy to finally share it with you all. I hope you are all able to learn something from this video and if I missed out on something or was wrong about something, feel free to correct me in the comments down below! I hope to have the rest of the parts uploaded soon so stay tuned for more! As always, thanks for watching and subscribe for more!
The songs used in this video are
- Back 2 Back
- Jeh Jeh Rocket
- Sonic Adventure Character Select Screen
From the Sonic Rush and Sonic Adventure Soundtrack. No copyright infringement intended.
#SmashBrosUltimate #EliteSmash #Sonic
Timestamps
My control scheme starts at 0:48
Down B (Spin Charge) basics start at 1:37
How to combo out of Down B starts at 3:02
What happens if Down B gets blocked starts at (same thing if Side B gets blocked) 4:36
How to cancel your Down B starts at 5:17
Down B Advanced Tech (Charge Shot) starts at 6:55
Down B Advanced Tech (Charge Jump) starts at 10:40
Side B (Spin Dash) basics start at 13:20
Side B hop invulnerability starts at 14:05
Side B charged jumps start at 14:59
How to combo out of Side B starts at 15:34
How to cancel your Side B starts at 16:31
Side B SPINSHOT guide starts at 18:10
Side B pivot tech guide starts at 20:42
What to be careful of with Down B and Side B starts at 22:29
Conclusion (thanks for watching stay tuned for part 2) starts at 23:39
~CORRECTIONS thanks to Lyco!~
5:42 & 12:00 & 18:54 - Forgot to call it by its official name Vertical Spin Jump
7:22 - Spin shot isn't exclusive to spin dash. You are able to do it with spin charge in mid air, but its much harder to do.
7:31 - That tech is called Spin Charge Jump since its possible to do it with spin charge and a fully charged spin dash (Let go of special and immediately press attack. The spin dash version is only possible on the ground)
21:10 - Called Aerial Spin Pivot and you can B reverse it and turn it around.
You should totally pin this, the fact this comment has no likes means no one's seeing it, when everyone totally should be seeing it.
Thanks.
Why won't you go play in a tournament?
Hojala hubiera traducion a español :'((
Thank You
“I’ll just pick a random stage”
*picks Green Hill Zone*
Very random for a sonic video.
And will fight a random guy, like... this guy *picks Mario*
nice
Clockwork is secretly sponsored by the Mario and Sonic Tokyo 2020 game.
Random button: am I a joke to you
and a random character like mario yes so random!
"Let's pick a random stage"
.
.
*Immediately picks Green Hill Zone*
I think that's a coïncidence...
@@spryzor4799 Not really. (I think.)
"Lets pick a random character"
.
.
Picks Mario.
@@hiimluca4345 no I "THINK" that's a coïncidence 🤫
@@ZX_STH nah what I Love was the despective way to call Mario... Let's choose... "This guy" xD
Soon, everyone will be “rolling around at the speed of sound”.
Idk why I thought u were gonna make a rolling joke since sonic spins around everywhere but nvm :P
@@csw-t5i He spins then rolls. I thought everyone knew that
@@csw-t5i It's from the song City Escape from SA2.
@@ZX_STH obv ik that it is just that my first look at the comment was that I just thought he was going to make a joke with rolling involved ;-;
And when everyone's Sanic... No one will be.
I didn't notice sonic wags his tail when crouching
Yeah I forgot he did that.
Bruh I forgot sonic had a tail 🗿
Honestly, it's the most adorable thing i have ever seen.
I forget he has a tail tbh
Dewdropp 🗿 Same bruh
OH MY GOD, I JUST NOTICED THAT SONIC WAGS HIS TAIL WHEN HE’S CROUCHING
THAT’S ADORABLE
No you’re cringe
@@connorhancock2096 cringe, well, ok...
Sometimes I even forget he has a tail
He has a fucking tail?
While you were explaining the spin charge, he would go into his crouch position. I never realized how much he wags his tail. Like I knew it was there but I never thought of it as something that moves weirdly enough.
You know theirs some shit u just say right. This this is one of em.
@@XenoAbyss *there's some...
they patched this fsr 😭
"I'll pick someone random like *THIS* guy here"
*picks mario*
Very random bro hell yah I love it
😈 it was all a plan
Nice choice for lab dummy
@@alanwott8226 i mean all mario did was get a few hits for a free ticket for "sonic sugar rush".
1:02 "I'll, uhhhh, pick someone random like 'this guy right here.'"
You better respect him, young man.
I’ve been playing Sonic for a long time and I didn’t know the majority of this. Thank you 🙏
WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
People need a guide to the blur though way past cool
Sees Guide for Sonic
Me: *I AM SPEED*
Xeosarn “gotta go fast”
“That’s what you think doctor egg man”
i am sonic
Lot's of things worth mentioning I'm not sure you forgot or just don't know:
- Another way to "Charge shot": While charging, flick your left stick up and press B once. Just once, if you press it twice you'll Spring out of the arc (which can also be used as some kind of a "get out" mixup.
- 10:40 This is a variation of "Vertical Spindash Jump", in which you press A while charging spindash. The result is exactly the same, the only real difference is you do this one out of Spincharcge, so technically it's a "Vertical Spincharge Jump". Also, note that these two techs have a hitbox *only while rising* and they always send the opponent in front of you, so it's best to use it while the opponent's falling in order to force an option and frame trap him, while the opponent's at a platform on top of you so you can pressure him and A-Cancel with an UpAir, or at ledge in order to ledgetrap your opponent at jump.
- 18:40 It's not necessary to use C-Stick for that one. It's useful, but it's not comfortable. You can alternatively tap A to Spinshot, same as in Smash 4, only in this game you have to wait for the full charge, so it's harder a timing. If you go straight up (Vertical Spindash Jump or just total fail) or don't jump at all, you're doing it too soon, while if you jump without momentum you're doing it too late. When Spinshooting, you use your doublejump, so be careful of going too deep.
Sorry for late posting, it's 21:00 (-04:00 GMT) here and I just arrived home
Awesome, thanks for the additional info!!!
It’s not working
22:30 THAT HAPPENS TO ME ALOT, NOW I KNOW WHY
007ghost same omg now I know
Me too
Very useful information.
No one:
Subtitles at 3:55: *Homie attack*
_Gold._
Why add the stupid "no one:" before your comment? It's way better without it, and doesn't add value.
@@DanielGonzalez-qf5de Because I want to.
@@DanielGonzalez-qf5de It's like saying you got about 000040 subs, literally
Wait, just replied to the wrong person-
Finally, a guide for people who want to play like you. Good job and continue.
“Gotta go fast.”
CV: I'll pick a Random stage *Picks Green Hill"
CV: I'll pick a Random character like *Picks Mario*
Been waiting for this! You explain really well so I cant wait to play this back again and again to increase my skill level. Your confidence and great commentary is contagious. Thanks Cw!
I’ve been looking forward to this
I always wondered why my spin dashes didn't have a multi-hit attack and its because I completely forgot about his down-b lmaoooooo.
Thanks man
Finally a guide thank you clockwork. Was wondering when you will join a tournement? Showing your sick skills
Joining a tournament is definitely something I need to look into! Thanks for watching!
Jah Jah rocket? Isn't it jeh jeh rocket?
ALSO YES RUSH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SONIC GAMES
Haha you're right, I'll go in and fix that now, thanks xD
That's cool lol
Wow falcon didn't deserve that much disrespect, but I love it.
Amazing guide Clockwork! Though a quick FYI for everyone else, I accidentally found out you can also quickly/safely exit a Side-B by just pressing the Grab button. This triggers a jump cancel similar to the one from the Down-B. It might not be as quick as the method you showed, but it's definitely easier to perform!
Great info, thanks!
This was a great help. I have been trying to play him. And I didn’t know what the difference of the moves are. So thanks man
Charge Shot is essentially the Spin Jump technique from Sonic Adventure, when you charge a spinach and then max jump to clear big ass gaps
As a sonic main, and this being published on my birthday. I feel grateful. Thanks for the video man
Thank you so much!!! I would pay you for a private lesson with sonic. You should consider doing that as well my friend!
Thank you!
Finally, I was waiting for a guide from this channel, the best sonic main I can learn from to play better.
Finally! If anyone should teach Sonic, it’s you.
People say how basic Sonic's moveset is... it's true, but that's what makes Sonic so customisable in the game. You could really go with just about any play style as him. Ask Kels, Sonix, or 6WX and they will all tell you different ways of how they play the fighter. Very interesting.
I'll have to watch this video over and over, but it's necessary and I'll take notes
I HAVE ASCENDED! This is gonna take my Sonic to a whole new level! Learning how to spike with Sonic would be great too. Hope you’re doing well man, keep ripping it up!
Thanks!
@@ClockworkVideos Side B Spin Dash is a reference to Sonic CD's spin dash.
I just love that you used Sonic Rush OST for the background music, well except for the last one
Let’s pick a random character, and a random stage:
Picks Mario and Green hill zone
Random:
Am I a joke to you?
12:45 That spike to Cap. Falcon bro
I literally choked on my breakfast laughing when I saw this too
totally deserved. Wish it was Ness more tho.
YES! WE NEED MORE LIKE THIS
That quick Spin Dash turnaround back air is probably my new favorite technique
A tip for the spin shot, when sonic is moving backwards while you charge side b, wait until he is as far back as he can be (without turning yellow) then release side b and slam your c stick (or whatever you use ) down at the same time.
Awesome guide Clockwork!!
I've learnt so much more now about the properties of Spin-Dash & Spin-Charge.
Even more so than I previously.
Such a great guide.
I cannot wait for your Part 2 alright.
Thank you, I'm glad I was able to help!
Yes! I am so here for this!
This was a great guide and I'm excited to practice these techs. You're the best! I'm very much looking forward your recovery and spike guides.
This is a really great guide on Down B and Side B! It’s great just like all the videos you’ve made and will make! Keep it up dude, can’t wait for part 2! 👍 🔵💨
Also I released my fifth montage on my channel! You can watch it if you want to: ruclips.net/video/LsWn6BDSr4Q/видео.html
Bro, this might be it. This tech might be the thing that makes me switching my main to sonic because I love playing with him but I didn't get as much results as with PT in tournaments. I love your videos man, big fan right here!
Thank you so much! I really need this I am definitely going to watch all of them
Clockwork is an amazing sonic player! Thanks for the tutorial!
Yo you gotta mention launch trajectory differences at low, mid, high percents on light, medium, and heavy opponents. There's some true combos with spin charge and spin dash that you could talk about.
•Spin Charge: medium opponent / 70-88ish% - full spin charge, double jump, forward air
•Spin Charge: heavy / 20-50%ish - full spin charge, jump and wait till right above opponent, down air
•Spin Dash: medium / 70ish? - full spin dash, wait till just after hit on ground, jump, up b, up air
etc....
The launch trajectory of both moves is super important.
Great video!
Amazing info, thanks for commenting this!!!
@@ClockworkVideos Fo sho! Out of the Sonic guides that are out there, not sure if anyone covers these points. I leave it in your capable hands!
15:45 they have different knock back angles so some combo that work with on won't work with the other.
PART 2 PLEASE!!! I LOVE THIS GUIDE SO MUCH ALREADY!!
THANK YOU 🙏 FOR GIVING SONIC A BREAK FROM BEING TEASED FOR HIS DOWN AND SIDE SPECIALS GEEZ 🙄
Okay this was very informative, like I knew some of this, but, i never really did it properly, more of an accident, like spin shot. Cant wait for part 2 clock :3
I tried some of ur tips and it got me clips for my next montage so thanks man keep it up
Your commentary/guide videos are so fun/informational. Please do more, because I am garbage a sonic, and I love him.
You can fake out an opponent after using that spin charge. I find that really cool. All this will help me be way better as a Sonic main
I don’t even own a switch and I can’t play smash but I rly enjoy your vids and quality. Keep at it!
I could have used this video 3 years ago when Sonics were bodying me in bracket every week. Better late than never! Thank you so much for the info!
Yay now I can improve my sonic skills thx G
Hey dude, been watching all the Sonic vids since "400 hours with Sonic", man.. My friends hate me now haha. Nowhere near as good, but good enough to upset my mates while I play Sonic. Cheers :D
Me too, im gpod enough to upset my friends
@@zacariasvelazquez8400 Easily the most fun character to play once you learn some versitility
I upset my brothers with him in Brawl and they was using sword characters
Exactly what I wanted, excited for part 2 :D
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE DAY YOU MAKE YOUR FIRST SONIC GUIDE VIDEO!!!!!!
Nice guide! Your Sonic is so dang scary! I'd hate to come across it in Elite Smash someday! ^^'
Good tutorial! WE'llbe waiting for the onther one
I really liked the description on how to spinshot! Every tutorial ive seen makes it seem to complicated input wise, so its nice to see a simple way to do it
Great Video Clockwork! Hopefully I catch you sometime on Elite Smash!
Clockwork! Love your vids man! Just wanted to let you know that the charge hop can be used to get out of Sonic's side b as well. While charging up side b just hit the a button to make Sonic do the charge hop. This can be used to do quick turnarounds off of stages as well. Keep up the good work!
I never played sonic competitively, but boy did I learn a lot
This is gonna be SO helpful.
I dropped Sonic in Smash 4 because I just couldn't get the timing of *anything* down...
(Note: I don't play competitively, so... yeah)
But I really want to learn him when I get this game.
oh my goodness, yes, I needed this badly!
See I knew Sonic was a technical character, but he has so many great mixups it’s crazy
Clockwork I became a good sonic player beacuse of you and this video showed me a couple of new tricks to use now thank you for showing me how to play sonic.
the madman finally did it. Thank you.
Awesome. Recently started playing Sonic so I’ve been watching your videos for ideas but it is nice to hear the full explanation. Thanks for doing this.
Hey Clockwork, this tutotial was very enlightening so thank you. For the Charge Shot, you don't need to only down tilt, you can do any tilt that you find convenient in the moment. That's the only thing I wanted to say :D Thanks, Gotta Go Fast!
Wow Clockwork really great guide! I always have a lot of trouble controlling myself in spindash/charge and I usually end up leaving myself open but this guide was really helpful! Also my offstage Sonic gameplay is pretty garbage so these techniques are SO useful! You are also the first person that tells you EXACTLY how to use spinshot! THANK YOU! I might actually be able to learn it now!
I always wondered how you’d jump forward off stage and end up doing a 🅱️air, super helpful video dude
i dont even main sonic but this video was just very detailed and interesting i genuinely enjoyed it thank you for putting time into it keep up the amazing work !
I've needed this video for the longest time. It's partially the reason I never really got into Sonic. I always thought the moves were too similar.
OH THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO CLOCKWORK. MY SONIC GAME PLAY ALREADY FEELS SMOOTHER
You didn't miss anything Clockwork , finally i can know sonic recover technique thanks
As a Sonic main myself I'm pretty good with Sonic but this video also help me out a little bit more with some rules I forgotten about sonic D+S special
This tutorial is frankly amazing!! It’s so good to get such advanced tips and combos that we don’t hear and see from anywhere else! Great job!
Amazing guide ! I allready knew most of those techs but didn't know how to execute them precisely, thank you. For part 2 I think showing how to perform the B-reverse homing attack would be neat, I never use this 'cauz I'm not consistent with it and end up homing to my death lol
Congratulations for the guide! Your explanation of the diferences between the spins and the advanced techs gave me more interest on making Sonic my main again! One thing I'd like to point out is that Sonic can jump two times before letting go of the fully charged Spin Dash. If you simply charge until it hits yellow, you can still jump two times before Sonic let go of the Spin Dash charging animation. This gives more movement options, and can also pressure the opponent for more time.
Great Guide man! Vercy concise and precise! Cheers
You have no idea how helpful this is.
FINALLY A SONIC GUIDE
We've Been Waiting
All that's next is a tourney video and or a collab with other Smash Tubers. Great video man. Keep it up 💪🏼💯🙏😎
Thanks! Getting into the tournament scene is definitely something I want to look into!
Spin charge into them, jump, footstool, springboard, down B, run forward short hop n-air is my go to combo
YES THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED
Gained a better appreciation of these two moves. It's like a contract to 2D and 3D Sonic
I use alot of Spin Jump to avoid danger so thank you so much for this technique
Bit late but you are able to cancel spin dash(side b) with your grab button which makes sonic jump up and cancel it which has the same effect as to cancelling spin charge(down b) with jump.
Great video! A lot of it, I already knew but the rest was new!
Hey clockwork, I've been maining sonic for a few months after I started watching some of your videos, I love all of your content! Also I use the same control scheme, and it works great on most characters
There is a spin dash cancel tech that you didn’t include. Side b like you’re doing spin shot but flicking the c stick down then immediately air dodging back in the direction you started. Great feint and safer than down air cancel. Both are useful though nice video. I wanna see spike tutorials lol
OMFG A GUIDE FOR MY MIAN!!!
This is great. Love the simple and complete explanation backed up with real use footage.
You just earned a new subscriber with this video! I love it!
Do more parts bruh! I really like Sonic but I dunno how to use it, i’m sure Your guides will helping me out, thanks❤️
A little bit of side b tech that you missed, the hop dash. basically what you wanna do is rev up the spindash than immediately move your thumb to hold the Y button. Learned it watching SGK's guide.