@@BillWalters-kx8sw First, JWs have to find the term "new light" in the Bible. Only then can a discussion proceed about it allegedly coming from a big G or little g.
Geoffrey jackson said it would be presumptuous to say they were the only spokespeople on earth, then in this video they tell you they are the only followers of christ today. They don't even see how they contradict themselves at every turn.....
Jackson actualy said "that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous". His these weasel words basicaly meant nothing. This is a very manipulative technique they used all the time. Basicaly, whatever you say after saying "that I think would seem to be" I think would seem not to mean anything and be a way to just confuse people and waste their time.
One thing I have learned in 45 years of living the "simple life". The idea that making less money and not preparing for your future makes your life simpler is ludicrous. Living the "simple life" is great as long as you don't want to go anywhere or do anything or retire or have health insurance or a family or get old (that was never supposed to happen). It breaks my heart that I wasted my life promoting false prophecy, it's actually embarrassing that I ever believed this nonsense. But hey... embrace the simple life
I'm right there with you. So much wasted time not pursuing the life that I would have wanted to live. (41 years for me) Just doing what I was told and now everything is way harder. No higher education, no career focus, no community. The org fucked us in the name of cultural conservatism.
So according to what this guy says, it would be accurate to say that Jehovah's Witnesses are an American-based religion thanks to Jehovah's wisdom. Because of this, would it also be true to say that Jehovah blessed the USA?
So these dudes are honestly under the impression that an invisible superhero gave a bunch of superpowers to a bunch of juice and it wrote a book for them? I don't get it. LOL😊
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
It got me the other day that when he talks about all the people in the 1920s who said that they found the "truth", it meant only those who had the means and money to buy the book. Can't buy the books, no salvation for you. Convenient lil tidbit left out
And the people who followed him were like him; they were circumsiced, they had beards, they were fasting dawn till dusk, they didn't eat pork, they were praying with their forehead to the ground, they said 'peace to you' when they entered a house, they were keeping the Law. And then Paul came..........
If God is using the governing body and he wants us to obey them, then we shouldn't respect the Bible or Jesus. The Bible says there is no name above jesus' name on the earth. Jehovah is the #1 name being promoted by the governing body. Jesus never mentioned God's name.
0:40 do you mean he went 'back to the very origins, to the source of the thing' (paraphrasing) exactly as the witnesses advise, because the origins of something define it even if it has changed over time, like borthdays or holidays? And therefore by their own argument the origin of witnesses is just as valid a critisim as who they are now? WT out here with that "no, not like that!" energy. Edit:im not fixing the typo, its borthdays from now on, we are getting around the GB with typos like they are getting around disfellowshipping with removing 😂😂
Actually, yes. It makes perfect sense to follow the observation to it's natural conclusion, and admit that the whole Bible is probably untrue and written by men not god. Not all Christians want to do that tho...
This line of reasoning about God using imperfect people like Moses etc is flawed. God used Moses and inspired him to write the first 5 books of the Bible with the Law Covenant to Israel and the early history of mankind and what led to the founding of the nation. Those writings were not full of mistakes. They didn't have to keep being updated or changed. The Law remained unchanged for 1500 years until Christ fulfilled it. Again David was inspired to write what he wrote. He was imperfect but what he wrote under inspiration didn't have to be changed and updated every few years or weeks. It was not full of mistaken beliefs that had to be clarified or adjusted even by the Jewish Priests. It was the Jewish Priests that tried to add their traditions to it that made it invalid but the word of God remained unchanged. Same with the Apostle Peter or Paul. Yes they were imperfect but while they were "born along by holy spirit" what they taught was true and didn't have to be changed or updated or adjusted. So this reasoning of removing parts of the Bible because the men who were inspired to write down what they were inspired to write is ridiculous. The gb admits they ARE NOT INSPIRED. They are NOT INFALLIBLE. Different to the Bible writers, what they write down needs to be adjusted and updated because they MAKE MISTAKES. Plus what he is saying smacks of arrogance. He is putting CT RUSSELL on the same level as the inspired Bible writers and by extension the gb. This is disgraceful.
Didn’t one time or another the WT leadership said “Abel” since the beginning of human race was the first “witness” based on something Apostle Paul said???
God chose America and Americans for his organization..lol that right there should give you pause. He totally forgot about Israel and his chosen people???
That’s right! Jehovah had to wait until America was founded, the state of New York become part of the Constitution, Russell born then eventually “breaking” away to start the Bible Students, to then wait for Rutherford to come along and take over and “break” away from what Russell taught to eventually going to prison to end up with such a record of faith that the heavens picked them to eventually become Jehovahs Witnesses. See- this is what the “fine” print says in a footnote.
it pisses me off so much when they try to deny that 2 + 2 = 4 because they dont like the term. they are by definition to the tee 100% a new american religion but because that sounds bad they deny it!
Here’s how the Bible was organized The Old Testament books were written well before Jesus’ Incarnation, and all of the New Testament books were written by roughly the end of the first century A.D. But the Bible as a whole was not officially compiled until the late fourth century, illustrating that it was the Catholic Church who determined the canon-or list of books-of the Bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Indeed, the Bible is not a not a self-canonizing collection of books, as there is no table of contents included in any of the books. Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities. The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442. Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther.
Thousands of lies and false doctrines for 2,000+ years? The JW hate the Catholic Faith..which was inspired by Christ, who gave authority to his apostles, who in turn assigned Bishops, Presbyters to all the known world..establishing churches. The Early Church Fathers carried on the gospel ..there was not ONE Jehovah’s Witnesses going door to door.
Im a Former JW but the catholic church was forged with torture,murder,rape,bloodshed and idol worship through its history. It is an outright abomination to God.
Yet the JW claim that they were there with Christ, when he was walking the earth and had a governing body back then. So my question is, “Did the witnesses hear the testimony of the Christ which gives them the right to make all of their new revised editions with more and more big changes thereby supporting their own key doctrines such as soul sleep, 2 witness rule, christ as a helper, angel, brother of satan, slave to man, all denying Christ Deity, ect?
You (John Ekrann) are trying to convince him that his beliefs are wrong. But he is a bad person for having the same mindset as you? He isn't going to run out of the house if he can't counter your argument, but you are!
This man is selling his soul to the Watchtower. It is all distortion out of contex lies. You decide. Do your research and you will discover for yourself how rubbish this is. 😮😮😮
it has never made sense to me that somehow the entire world erased the existence of this religion and god for some reason just kinda didnt care for some reason and instead of using his infinite fucking power he uses this insane guy to rediscover his religion for some reason???
Damn Caleb. This cult really left you chafed and sore huh? I appreciate new knowledge in the quest to find the truth but your shedding of light in regards to the falsehoods of this cult comes mixed with emotions of mockery and disdain and lacks attempts at pointing people in the right direction. It just a bash fest. I listen to other videos of brothers and sisters in Christ exposing the lies of JW’s but at the same time bringing biblical arguments as to why they are a false religion and include direction to how and where to find salvation. Your videos are just about bashing. That’s sad because I really enjoy learning, even from you but your disgruntled attitude is definitely a turn off. Ill still listen to your videos here and there though at least as much as I can tolerate. Hope you find peace in your life. Oh yeah, ditch that avatar, it’s kiddie and cringey.
I very rarely use ad hominem, using it almost exclusively for comedic effect. Could you be more specific on how this is "bashing" and why this cult doesn't deserve bashing? This channel is t about pointing people in the right direction. It's simply about telling people that this cult is the wrong direction. Who am I to decide which direction you should point your live towards? Also, let's just assume for one second that I indeed created this channel only so I can complain about JW's. Would that be wrong? Why? Should I not complain about the cult that ruined most of my life? I genuinely look forward to your answers, even though I somehow doubt you'll provide any.
@@ExJWCaleb Check out Theology with Seth. This dude is on point exposing JW false doctrine without the bashing. If your mission is to pull genuine people out of the cult then that attitude is the way to do it but if bashing ranting and raving is the mission then plenty of those people doing just that. People in the cult that might listen will be turned off from that sore attitude unless they are sore themselves. A more theocratic approach will win over genuine ppl seeking truth otherwise it just becomes a bash fest of disgruntled people bashing the cult and staying sore and that doesn’t the do individuals any good. They have already suffered enough in the cult to stay bitter after leaving. Live, learn and move on.
There’s thousands (40,000) man made denominations out there. There’s One, Holy, Apostolic Church, the Catholic Church. Trace back 2,000+ years ago. The Church came before the Bible. The Old Testament books were written well before Jesus’ Incarnation, and all of the New Testament books were written by roughly the end of the first century A.D. But the Bible as a whole was not officially compiled until the late fourth century, illustrating that it was the Catholic Church who determined the canon-or list of books-of the Bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Indeed, the Bible is not a not a self-canonizing collection of books, as there is no table of contents included in any of the books. Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities. The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442. Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther.
_"The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation ...had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities."_ Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of religion. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. You can’t expect to wield supreme papal power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Funny how Russell found the truth, then 99% of that truth was abandoned for the 'real' truth, soon to be abandoned for the 'really real' truth.😂
"Clarifying our beliefs"
"Adjusted our organization"
Translation: Gotcha!
Lmao.
Lol pure nonsense.
It's called new light from capitol G God not to be confused by small g god (that's his son).
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First, JWs have to find the term "new light" in the Bible. Only then can a discussion proceed about it allegedly coming from a big G or little g.
Geoffrey jackson said it would be presumptuous to say they were the only spokespeople on earth, then in this video they tell you they are the only followers of christ today. They don't even see how they contradict themselves at every turn.....
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Exactly
Jackson had his fingers crossed behind his back when he said it, so it doesn't count...
Jackson actualy said "that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous". His these weasel words basicaly meant nothing. This is a very manipulative technique they used all the time.
Basicaly, whatever you say after saying "that I think would seem to be" I think would seem not to mean anything and be a way to just confuse people and waste their time.
@@Sharde0011Just like the not so holy book.
The simplest way to tell if some WT talking head is lying is to see if their lips are moving.
They make me physically SICK! He's scrambling to make sense...
It’s really absurd that this Russel stands up and says I’m the one who gods using!!! Especially with no proof !
Similar to WT saying "We were chosen by God in 1919 as the only true religion", with no proof.
Lol, the only proof is Invisible .
Or that god chose America for his headquarters
Music video looks like a UK tv advertisement for the Halifax with Howard 😂😂
One thing I have learned in 45 years of living the "simple life". The idea that making less money and not preparing for your future makes your life simpler is ludicrous. Living the "simple life" is great as long as you don't want to go anywhere or do anything or retire or have health insurance or a family or get old (that was never supposed to happen). It breaks my heart that I wasted my life promoting false prophecy, it's actually embarrassing that I ever believed this nonsense. But hey... embrace the simple life
You’re not alone. I too said that simple life crap.
Hear, hear. You gotta forgive yourself tho! I'm glad you got out
I'm right there with you. So much wasted time not pursuing the life that I would have wanted to live. (41 years for me) Just doing what I was told and now everything is way harder. No higher education, no career focus, no community. The org fucked us in the name of cultural conservatism.
Being rich doesn’t guarantee true happiness tho.
Hey, go easy on yourself. Main thing is you recognize what happened and you’re choosing better ❤ all the best to you! Live your life to the fullest 😄
They live in the lie
So according to what this guy says, it would be accurate to say that Jehovah's Witnesses are an American-based religion thanks to Jehovah's wisdom. Because of this, would it also be true to say that Jehovah blessed the USA?
So these dudes are honestly under the impression that an invisible superhero gave a bunch of superpowers to a bunch of juice and it wrote a book for them? I don't get it. LOL😊
19:30 that’s a credit card offer.
Russell's last toga party was soooo animal house .😅
Watching JW broadcasting 😮💨
Watching Caleb comment JW broadcasting 😄
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
It got me the other day that when he talks about all the people in the 1920s who said that they found the "truth", it meant only those who had the means and money to buy the book.
Can't buy the books, no salvation for you.
Convenient lil tidbit left out
Russells books are not used in the society any more. 😮😮😮
God bless America!!!🇺🇸
Cult,cult,cult
The fake body tried to hide their past but they also show the hipocrisy of them in those new videos them like live in a fantasy world 🌎
19:30 it's a credit card application, not a job application.
Why does Gage sound like he threw some stank on "Columbia" 19:40
Sure does! 😂
He (Jesus) answered, I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15:24
And the people who followed him were like him; they were circumsiced, they had beards, they were fasting dawn till dusk, they didn't eat pork, they were praying with their forehead to the ground, they said 'peace to you' when they entered a house, they were keeping the Law. And then Paul came..........
Matthew 28:19.
@@jennyparfumJesus was sent for the world, just not tge lost sheep.
@@misterauctor7353 Jesus does not explicitly state that he came to save Gentiles in a single verse.
That 2X speed turned dat shit to a bop ngl😂
Why does he refer to "brother Russell" when he was known as "pastor Russell"
Do you think you will ever make a video about beroean pickets?
Seseme Street level theology. Clearly false prophets Jesus warned about.
If God is using the governing body and he wants us to obey them, then we shouldn't respect the Bible or Jesus. The Bible says there is no name above jesus' name on the earth. Jehovah is the #1 name being promoted by the governing body. Jesus never mentioned God's name.
Always with the sing song voice. Take direction from GOD the Father.NOT screwed up men.
“Religion design is very human” -norio ishibashi (probably)
Hey man, I am new to this channel.Do you have a video on the jehovah?Witnesses, claiming that jesus has already came back on nineteen fourteen
So wait... in Japan, do they call brothers and sisters "nii-san"/"onee-san"?🤣😭
0:40 do you mean he went 'back to the very origins, to the source of the thing' (paraphrasing) exactly as the witnesses advise, because the origins of something define it even if it has changed over time, like borthdays or holidays? And therefore by their own argument the origin of witnesses is just as valid a critisim as who they are now?
WT out here with that "no, not like that!" energy.
Edit:im not fixing the typo, its borthdays from now on, we are getting around the GB with typos like they are getting around disfellowshipping with removing 😂😂
B o r t h
Actually, yes. It makes perfect sense to follow the observation to it's natural conclusion, and admit that the whole Bible is probably untrue and written by men not god. Not all Christians want to do that tho...
Christians don't care about what's actually true...they only care about what FEELS true.
6:34 No, you're not.
5:57 Not true, John.
This line of reasoning about God using imperfect people like Moses etc is flawed. God used Moses and inspired him to write the first 5 books of the Bible with the Law Covenant to Israel and the early history of mankind and what led to the founding of the nation. Those writings were not full of mistakes. They didn't have to keep being updated or changed. The Law remained unchanged for 1500 years until Christ fulfilled it. Again David was inspired to write what he wrote. He was imperfect but what he wrote under inspiration didn't have to be changed and updated every few years or weeks. It was not full of mistaken beliefs that had to be clarified or adjusted even by the Jewish Priests. It was the Jewish Priests that tried to add their traditions to it that made it invalid but the word of God remained unchanged. Same with the Apostle Peter or Paul. Yes they were imperfect but while they were "born along by holy spirit" what they taught was true and didn't have to be changed or updated or adjusted. So this reasoning of removing parts of the Bible because the men who were inspired to write down what they were inspired to write is ridiculous. The gb admits they ARE NOT INSPIRED. They are NOT INFALLIBLE. Different to the Bible writers, what they write down needs to be adjusted and updated because they MAKE MISTAKES. Plus what he is saying smacks of arrogance. He is putting CT RUSSELL on the same level as the inspired Bible writers and by extension the gb. This is disgraceful.
Exactly!
Yes. Cultier
Didn’t one time or another the WT leadership said “Abel” since the beginning of human race was the first “witness” based on something Apostle Paul said???
God chose America and Americans for his organization..lol that right there should give you pause. He totally forgot about Israel and his chosen people???
That’s right! Jehovah had to wait until America was founded, the state of New York become part of the Constitution, Russell born then eventually “breaking” away to start the Bible Students, to then wait for Rutherford to come along and take over and “break” away from what Russell taught to eventually going to prison to end up with such a record of faith that the heavens picked them to eventually become Jehovahs Witnesses. See- this is what the “fine” print says in a footnote.
4:28 No evidence, John.
it pisses me off so much when they try to deny that 2 + 2 = 4 because they dont like the term. they are by definition to the tee 100% a new american religion but because that sounds bad they deny it!
3:12 No, he did create a new religion.
4:50 Not true, John.
Whats the idea of all those white marks flashing over the video? Makes it look really amateuish
To imitate a paused vcr tape?
Or is it vsh?
Here’s how the Bible was organized
The Old Testament books were written well before Jesus’ Incarnation, and all of the New Testament books were written by roughly the end of the first century A.D. But the Bible as a whole was not officially compiled until the late fourth century, illustrating that it was the Catholic Church who determined the canon-or list of books-of the Bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Indeed, the Bible is not a not a self-canonizing collection of books, as there is no table of contents included in any of the books.
Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities.
The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442.
Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther.
The old testament was only for the jews when it was written lol
Thousands of lies and false doctrines for 2,000+ years? The JW hate the Catholic Faith..which was inspired by Christ, who gave authority to his apostles, who in turn assigned Bishops, Presbyters to all the known world..establishing churches. The Early Church Fathers carried on the gospel ..there was not ONE Jehovah’s Witnesses going door to door.
LOL.
Im a Former JW but the catholic church was forged with torture,murder,rape,bloodshed and idol worship through its history. It is an outright abomination to God.
Yet the JW claim that they were there with Christ, when he was walking the earth and had a governing body back then. So my question is,
“Did the witnesses hear the testimony of the Christ which gives them the right to make all of their new revised editions with more and more big changes thereby supporting their own key doctrines such as soul sleep, 2 witness rule, christ as a helper, angel, brother of satan, slave to man, all denying Christ Deity, ect?
It was actually better at 2x speed….which is not saying much, btw. And yes, me2, them word Colombia reminds me of Coke…..not the soft drink.
I'm not an audiophile, but I'm pretty sure that tune was plagiarized.
You (John Ekrann) are trying to convince him that his beliefs are wrong. But he is a bad person for having the same mindset as you?
He isn't going to run out of the house if he can't counter your argument, but you are!
This man is selling his soul to the Watchtower. It is all distortion out of contex lies. You decide. Do your research and you will discover for yourself how rubbish this is. 😮😮😮
Becoming even more cornball.
it has never made sense to me that somehow the entire world erased the existence of this religion and god for some reason just kinda didnt care for some reason and instead of using his infinite fucking power he uses this insane guy to rediscover his religion for some reason???
Tbat cult is a joke
Damn Caleb. This cult really left you chafed and sore huh? I appreciate new knowledge in the quest to find the truth but your shedding of light in regards to the falsehoods of this cult comes mixed with emotions of mockery and disdain and lacks attempts at pointing people in the right direction. It just a bash fest. I listen to other videos of brothers and sisters in Christ exposing the lies of JW’s but at the same time bringing biblical arguments as to why they are a false religion and include direction to how and where to find salvation. Your videos are just about bashing. That’s sad because I really enjoy learning, even from you but your disgruntled attitude is definitely a turn off. Ill still listen to your videos here and there though at least as much as I can tolerate. Hope you find peace in your life. Oh yeah, ditch that avatar, it’s kiddie and cringey.
I very rarely use ad hominem, using it almost exclusively for comedic effect. Could you be more specific on how this is "bashing" and why this cult doesn't deserve bashing?
This channel is t about pointing people in the right direction. It's simply about telling people that this cult is the wrong direction. Who am I to decide which direction you should point your live towards?
Also, let's just assume for one second that I indeed created this channel only so I can complain about JW's. Would that be wrong? Why? Should I not complain about the cult that ruined most of my life?
I genuinely look forward to your answers, even though I somehow doubt you'll provide any.
@@ExJWCaleb Check out Theology with Seth. This dude is on point exposing JW false doctrine without the bashing. If your mission is to pull genuine people out of the cult then that attitude is the way to do it but if bashing ranting and raving is the mission then plenty of those people doing just that. People in the cult that might listen will be turned off from that sore attitude unless they are sore themselves. A more theocratic approach will win over genuine ppl seeking truth otherwise it just becomes a bash fest of disgruntled people bashing the cult and staying sore and that doesn’t the do individuals any good. They have already suffered enough in the cult to stay bitter after leaving. Live, learn and move on.
There’s thousands (40,000) man made denominations out there. There’s One, Holy, Apostolic Church, the Catholic Church. Trace back 2,000+ years ago.
The Church came before the Bible.
The Old Testament books were written well before Jesus’ Incarnation, and all of the New Testament books were written by roughly the end of the first century A.D. But the Bible as a whole was not officially compiled until the late fourth century, illustrating that it was the Catholic Church who determined the canon-or list of books-of the Bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Indeed, the Bible is not a not a self-canonizing collection of books, as there is no table of contents included in any of the books.
Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities.
The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442.
Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther.
_"The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation ...had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities."_
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of religion. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. You can’t expect to wield supreme papal power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
@@adamantiumbullet9215 have no idea what you mean
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Arrogant, deluded and no sense of humor. A winning combination.
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Of course you don't. To you I say, "Nee!"
@@adamantiumbullet9215 encouraging word from the apostle Monty's book of Python.