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Why Aren't There More Gobots in Transformers?
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Something tells me the design team wants to do more GoBots... and those somethings are Road Ranger and Crasher. Oh, what I'd give for Hasbro to dare doing a Cop-Tur from Siege Spinister, a Fitor from Evolution Needlenose, and a Cy-Kill from Evolution Crashbar...
Don't forget Selects Bugbite.
I don’t get why they don’t try to do more of the E-Hobby GoBots. Pathfinder and Treds are sitting right there waiting to be done. Of course there’s also the Wreck-Gar -> Cy-Kill retool idea
Let's not forget the option of repainting Selects Zetar (still one of my favorite Weaponizers) into Screw Head
I think the main thing that makes Crasher such a safe pick is the colors, actually. While most other GoBots were virtually unchanged from their Machine Robo counterparts (apart from the cartoon giving them new faces), Crasher was significantly redecoed - Bandai's Porsche Robo was white and blue! That likely gives Hasbro a lot more leeway to make Crashers without Bandai having grounds to sue, since they're so very clearly based on the GoBots character and not the Machine Robo toy.
And hey, if Machine Robo is allowed to release a Bike Robo figure with an alternate Cy-Kill face, I'm willing to bet Hasbro can get away with a lot more than they have been doing.
Hopefully Hasbro/Takara eventually get full ownership.
It would be cool.
The Studio Series Wreck-Gar is perfect for Cy-Kill, additionally, like Crasher, his face in the cartoon is vastly different from Bike Robo's generic face, so I think we could get a modern Cy-Kill if Hasbro so desired.
I would like to see a Leader-1, too, but that one is more difficult because of how similar he is to Eagle Robo.
Exactly what I was thinking. Little bit of retooling and it's perfect. Wreck-Gar already has the option to put the tires on the forearms, retool it to the shoulders, take off the blaster nipples (😂) and give him a new head, heck keep the spike wheels to make him more different for Copyright and really make him look like a bot named Cy-Kill
I always thought the Maverick mold would be perfect for a Leader 1 homage. They could just strip the shuttle parts out of Siege Astrotrain to make Loco. Turbo can be any car, just not Siege's Sideswipe.
@@Darkz3ed you're absolutely right about that Maverick mold
I actually think Hasbro could get away with it for the same reason that they're able to keep making Jetfire/Skyfire a thing. Cause Hasbro doesn't actually own the rights to the original Macross mold that character is based on. They were able to get away with it by just changing the head design from the toy and slapping an Autobot insignia on the chest. Some of the paint aps are in different spots as well making Skyfire more visually distinct from Jetfire. They also get around homages because it's a brand new mold that just happens to resemble the Macross toy but it's not reusing that same mold.
3rd Parties also use these same legal loop holes to avoid being sued by Hasbro even though we all know they're making Hasbro owned characters.
Go-Bots technically has the loop hole built in because the anination models changed the design of the faces from how the toys looked. Hasbro can further make them look different just by using original molds rather trying to make something too similar to the Machine Robo toys.
I think Hasbro could easily get away with putting a cartoon accurate Leader-1 head on a Seeker mold and putting a cartoon accurate Cy-Kill head on a Junkion mold and have two figures that homage those characters without setting off any land mines. The Seekers are distinct enough from Leader-1's original toy to pull off the homage while not infringing on Machine Robo's copy right. Same thing with Cy-Kil as a Junkion. It would also help to add very prominent Autobot and Decepticon insignias to them which Go-Bots didn't originally have.
Cy-Kil has shown up as a Decepticon in the comics by the way looking exactlt like his animation model. He didn't last long though as he was killed by Megatron almost immediatly.
My favorite Go-Bot is Pathfinder, so she already has an option.
If I were to do new versions of any Go-Bots, I'd probably go with Leader-1 and Cy-Kill by making they slight retools of Starscream and Junkheap respectively.
She's my favorite too
Every one forgets GoBots are CYBORGS, not fully robotic.
not really big on gobots but one of my favorite designs is Pathfinder, mostly for similar reasons I like Cosmos I just think the UFO is a fun vehicle mode despite it not being “practical”
I have such nostalgia for the Go-Bots. I remember my Grandma first getting me into Transformers a loooong time ago by renting me a Challenge of the Go-Bots VHS as well as the Transformers VHS that had the first appearance of the Dinobots. The only Go-Bot toy that I can remember ever handling as a kid was none other than the 1984 anomaly known as "Psycho" (mind you this was a few years after its release). The very "Lost In Space"/"Forbidden Planet"-esque robot mode and the car it subsequently transformed into were soooo crazy-looking, and to this day, neither the Go-Bots license nor the Transformers franchise has ever produced anything in the world like it. Like I said, and absolute anomaly of a toy. If ever there were a toy I would love to see get a modern take, it would be "Psycho".
I always liked the turret head of destroyer.
Also vamp, scorp and the other monster gobots have a unique organic feel that could be cool as a transformers faction.
The legal nightmare known as Jetfire with Robotech resulted into banning all other non-Hasbro related toys
That's mainly on Harmony Gold using the cockamamie license-chimera they made out with those three component series of Robotech as a blunt object - seeing HG get told by the courts they can no longer get pissy at Hasbro for new Jetfire toys (also kinda backed up by Bandai?) was/is just funny
But if I'm off or incorrect on anything, please let me know (little fuzzy ATM)
@@jaredhebert942 precisely.
There is that Tongue in cheek joke Of Tranformers Armada that has Leader-1 Servitude to Megatron and Unicron’s mini con was going to be named Gobatron
When I think of gobots Turbo is always who I think of
I loved Go Bots as a kid and Transformers. I wanted toys from both. My favorite characters were Scooter, Turbo, Pathfinder, and Smallfoot.
My favorite go bots toy was Tux because of his vehicle mode and robot mode head. I wish hasbro would put out more characters in older classic vehicles. There are a few characters with vintage land and air vehicles from G2 that would make great additions to my collection if they were updated with the Legacy treatment. Wishful thinking.
FYI there were bad guys in the Machine Robo line. It was the more alien looking designs like what was brought over as “Creepy” and “Skorp.”
You should check out the Machine Robo Revenge of Cronos anime.
One of my favorite Go-Bots was Screwhead, and I think all we'd need is a red version of Zetar.
Aw yeah Screw Head
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Got a big ol' screw on his head
Was never very big into gobots myself but I loved Puzzler and Monstrous. I think they were way better than the combiners G1 gave us. Not without flaws of course, but better
The combiners required no accessories. That was a huge plus. I’d love to see a Puzzler reissue.
Cy-Kill from a voyager junkion would be nice , screw head could come from nose cone , major from dead end
They also used the Leader 1 name for Megatron's mini-con in Armada
Leader 1 by either retooling the top gun Maverick crossover or using a seeker mold
I personally think he should have TR Mindwipe legs. That's a great Idea for jetbots!
All they needed to do was retool the POTP Jazz / Ricochet a little, and that mould could've made a PERFECT Crasher. Could've done her in Original White and Cartoon Black. And then done Generations Selects releases for the rare Dunlop Red and Prize Draw Silver versions.
Someone once did a great custom of Fitor, using a Classics Ramjet as a basis. Looked amazing!
You've probably read this, but what about the Leader-1 homage in the Armada toy line? Little silver/grey jet that came with Optimus, that for me was the first time I saw a direct reference to GoBots in transformers.
I’d love to get a cartoon accurate Turbo.
Also a Blades or Vortex retooling to Copter would be great!
Guide Leader-1 on his most daring mission yet. You must stop the evil Gog from destroying your friends on the planet Mobeius. If you fail, not only will your chums meet a death worse than fate itself but the Earth will be invaded by lots of horrible green things with an enormous appetite for scooters. Can you save the world? Can you load the game? It is at this point that I could present to you with an impressive table of baddies and their points. What is the point I ask you, when you will no doubt see them in the game and kill them regardless of point value.
Special features include:
. really ugly enemies
. an incredibly smug hero
After the Origin Bumblebee, there's no reason to not give us Pathfinder.
A few tweaks to the model, you could get close to her Cylon fighter-looking spacecraft mode.
I used to have gobots when I was a kid. They were a lot cheaper that transformers.
I remember getting puzzler for Christmas. I was so ecstatic for it. Now as I look back at it, why was it called puzzler?
I remember the ectosuits that you can put the figures in then create giant robot . That was kind of tacky lol.
Great video and thank you for jogging my brain back to my childhood!!
Crasher has a different alt mode, Bug Bite is now white... I think this sort of side steps should be fine and we just need to add the names to other storylines. I always felt like RID15 Storm Shot would have made a perfectly fine Leader 1 by just making him grey, for exemple. I also feel like Smallfoot would make a GREAT standard repaint for Strongarm. Just give her orange light bar so she looks more like a utility truck than some sort of responder. I would be REALLY happy to see her again. Smallfoot was my favorite as a kid.
I also think Pathfinder would be a perfect standard repaint for Cosmos. She wouldn't look anything like the original, but replace the green with a deep dark blue and the yellow with a cool grey and give her a red visor and you got it. It's a cool name, it gives Cosmos more chances to appear again and it's not the same alt mode at all. I've been hoping for this ever since iGear made their Roswell repaint of their Cosmos for TFCon. It's a brilliant move.
They always want to reuse molds as much as possible and I think they could fill those ranks with Go-Bots hommages that would be just evocative enough to work without looking like the originals.
I don't ever recall seeing the Legacy Velocitron Crasher ever on shelves here in the UK.
One of the only figures we didn't get, or that it was rarer than rocking horse sh*t.
I guess it was a similar situation in the USA with the Velocitron Cosmos figure that you guys struggled to find in shops over there.
I've been hoping for a Pathfinder made from a Cosmos mold.
Armada Megatron had Leader-1 minicon. That's when I knew something was up. LoL
also its Japanese source material Machine Robo joined the franchise crossover video game series that is Super Robot Wars as in you can see "Gobots" fighting alongside Gundams and Evangelions, Transformers had yet got that special treatment.
Funny thing I was just re-reading IDW's Megatron Origin and was thinking to myself we could get a retool of the SS86 Wreck-Gar and get an IDW inspired version of Cy-Kill. It would be different enough from Machine Robo's Bike Robo that it wouldn't be any infringement on the Copyright
I LOVE YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!!!, IS AMAZING HOW MUCH JUSTICE YOU DID TO GOBOTS IN THIS VIDEO
I’m surprised that the people running the Bandai mania RUclips channel, or at least hosting it, don’t actually bring up GoBots in their revenge of Chronos demonstrations.
My favorite Gobot is Night Ranger. It hurts me that the Backtrack redeco of Lugnutz was cancelled 😢
Pincher, he would fit in well with the Terrorcons.
Its beat that Bugbite has recently appeared in two major media
Gunshy legalese, of course. But I know I’d love to see more homages and new versions.
I feel like they could remold Jihiaxus into Fitor.
I knew it Go-Bots came first but Transformers became more popular.
No not really .
Go-bots - diaclone- transforms.
That is the correct way .
Diaclone had the toys and later rebrand to Transformers for the westermarket.
i am hoping for the SS junkion mold to be remolded into cy-kill. or maybe make a homage to Vamp by making her more bat like, and then claim they took inspiration from the batmobile.
Honestly surprised they didn't recolor Prime Strongarm Red and release her as Smallfoot.
I really want Hasbro to produce repaints to give us all the figures from the E-Hoby G1 Go-Bots set.
As you said, we already have Bug Bite and Road Ranger. Why not release Pathfinder and Treds as well?
The figures in the E-Hobby set don't even look like any of original figures, so Hasbro doesn't even need to worry about Bandai coming after them. Just release repaints based off of the set they already created for E-Hobby.
I'm not sure what my favorite Gobots toy is, but I really wish someone would remake the submarine one.
The SS86 Wreck-Gar mold is so obviously screaming for a Cy-Kill remold that it hurts that it’ll likely never happen.
Little known fact. Phil Hartmen voiced Baron Von Joy
Funny thing is the way that Hasbro so slowly edges forward with bringing Gobots into Transformers is the very reason some companies are so draconian about perceived copyright/trademark infringement.
I wish they'd just do a Seeker mold up like Leader-1. Just make a new head with an all grey plane with a more realistic color scheme. Seems viable, right? I also think Cy-kill from the Junkion mold could work.
My first go bot was pathfinder, I never saw the cartoon, so didn't know until my adult years, that it was a she. Also got Stacks for a birthday present one year, and of course had no "problem", working with my cousin's Optimus Prime.
Extended the shout-out streak
I get a kick watching the Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos series versions of Leader-1, Cykill and the rest of the mainstay GoBots as jobber characters; They actually look better and have the toy features. No dumb 5,o’clock shadow on Bike Robo lol. That being said, the 3rd party “MP” class Bike Robo does include the GoBot face which is a pretty cool nod.
How did you not mention The Transformer Gobots he is one of four G2 water squirting toys! He's one of my favorites so I'm biased lol
Why not use some of the characters that have names that are similar in both? There are GoBots named Blaster and Rumble!
i'm prety sure the main reason Crasher gets to happen is that her iconic black and red colourscheme was exclusive to Gobots. her Machine Robo counterpart was never released in those colours. only the white deco.
similarly, the Blue Leader-1, Black/Green Cy-Kill, and Orange Blaster are also viable options if hasbro ever wants to d more gobots.
also, the EHobby Gobots are unique decos, most of them based on cancelled decos for g1 microbots.
he shows the black crasher that the shows colours were based on in the vid, the white deco was just more common to find on the shelves
@@TatsuChi right, but what im trying to say is that the black deco was never used in Machine Robo. meaning its a Gobot-only deco, which means Bandai has no legal claim to it. the white deco was both a Gobot and a Machine Robo.
My favorite Go Bot is Leader-1.
Crasher is my favorite Go-Bot, followed shortly by Cy-Kill and Fi-Tor.
Bug Bite from GoBots has been in 2 Transformers series.
I hope they will have more of the gobots in the transformers line, but right now, they have some of the rock lords from the gobots movie into the transformers legacy united line
I'd love to see them make another car Decepticon combiner that is like Puzzler in it has all the combining stuff build in. Which the last Stunticons had or at least more or less had.
Cy-Kill would make a good evil Junkion
Another great video.
How come the top Gun crossover wasn't talked about since that is clearly a leader one mold and wouldn't take much to turn it into leader one
My favorite Go-Bot is no surprise… Crasher. If you wanted another strong female character to watch… you couldn’t… lol 😅
There is a third party company that made figures based on the Gobots, but they went by their Japanese name, Machine Robo💁🏻♂.
Very enjoyable video
God that Michael bay joke, 🤣🤣🤣
Didn’t Tonka have some original content? Such as the Command Centre, Thruster, Zod, and several other original Tonka designed Gobot toys.
TJ, I’m disappointed that you didn’t talk about Armada Leader-1. Also isn’t Clench also a Go-Bot? Idr
I didn't even know gobots was in transformers.
TJ, regarding the "-" that you mention around10:30 for the Japanese characters it's not exactly the same. In Japan when "-" is used in katakana (the characters used to spell "Go-bots" it's simply to elongate the vowel sound of the character that precedes it.
So what I'm getting out of this is that to really be able to do anything at all, they would have to buy the rest of the rights from Warner Brothers.
And then they would have to fully reboot the franchise to fully separate it from the original Machine Robo toys.
Velocitron Crasher was never found in France 😭
My favorite gobot is treds, and I want to know what your favorite gobot is tjomega
I didn't grow up with Gobots so I can't say which one has a chance as a Transformer. Also, Revenge of Chronos was TV show not a movie.
I only had two Go-Bot toys as a kid: Zod and Dumper. I can only foresee a Dumper figure if there was an existing Generations Throttlebot Wideload or if they reused the CW Long Haul, again a farfetched notion. As for Zod? Extensive retool of SS86 Grimlock?
You didn't mention how Leader-1's name was used in Armada.
Cybertron Ransack makes a decent Scooter, if you ignore the tiny Decepticon emblem.
Revenge of Cronos was a 47 episode anime
Super GOBO Destroyer.
From what I can tell Machine Robo/Gobots (currently) has virtually ZERO representation at retail outside Asia. Hasbro COULD make them some sort of offer. Cut a deal with Bandai and retool 86 Wreck-Gar into Cy-kill already. But the reason they won't do is not Hasbro is "scared" of lawsuits. It is the SAME REASON WE CAN"T GET THE RID2001 CARTOON (English version) released on any sort of home media. Hasbro may not own the rights to the dub currently but they could EASILY have made a deal with Disney or whoever does own the rights to it. They are simply too DAMN CHEAP and LAZY to bother making an effort to get the deal done.
What do you think about the Megahouse gobots?
To be honest, even if Hasbro would care less on doing more on bringing back GoBots in a big way, I think Warner Bros should do it, cuz ya know, *Challenge of the Go-Bots* was created by Hanna-Barbera, so…I’m a bit stumped as to why WB didn’t bother buying them instead of Hasbro… **sigh**
Or maybe what if *WB* bought Tonka instead of Hasbro, that’d actually be a bit better tbh
Something needs to be done with hasbro. If Hasbro has a lot of money then they should go after Tonka and whoever else to get all the rights equally so that they can do many other of the Gobots. Or get rid of that idea of doing this series all together and think about other things Transformers
Why expect more Gobots when we can’t even get a matching complete line of g1 mini bots?
When people are asking "why don't they make Go-Bots" they aren't really asking. What they are actually saying is "Make Go-Bots!". Don't care how. Hasbro can figure it out. If we can get Star Wars crossovers, TMNT, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, Top Gun, we can get Go-Bots. LOL
Crasher was definitely my favorite Gobot from the show, I couldn’t stand the main three Guardians and and really the only other renegade I cared about was the non-transforming Zod. The toys had alot of cool designs but tended to break even more easily than the transformers, on the average. My favorite gobot toy that I owned was the one that transformed into the blue Seahawk helecopter, much better looking than Coptor, but of course I broke the rotors…..
the blue Guardian helicopter was called Fliptop i believe
@@TatsuChi thanks!
I say Crasher be my fav Go-bot
That’s what I keep saying about a Power Rangers and transformers crossover. Hasbro bought Power Rangers, so why hasn’t a Power Rangers and Transformers crossover happened yet? Even if it’s a crossover with beast wars.
Hope my boy Skrew Head can get a new figure
Because of robot chicken
So basically it’s because of legal reasons
They have the girl bad car in the transformers toy
Leader-1?
!!🤔...😡. wE Say, Go=Bots Puzzler Was The FIRST Fully Self-Contained Combiner!! No Extra Parts. A Definite 1-up On The Classic Constructicons & Devastator .
Hasbro doesn't own the molds, Bandai does. The only thing Hasbro owns is the name "Gobots".
Literally what I explained in the video.
The gobots are floppy and loose
I wonder if bandai would be more open to it considering Hasbro now owns the right to power rangers and the toy molds
Hasbro own the rights to produce power rangers toys, not the original Bandai molds as bandai still produces Sentai toys for Japan
Honestly, the reason why I think we haven't seen anything done with Robots for decades is because of greed and muscling out any kind of competition. If you stop and think about it, I really can't think of that many toy lines where there's transforming robots out there today that have any real pop culture revelance other than Transformers. You have things like Voltron and MMPR, but that's more like a specialty item, and not something that I would consider mainstream anymore. Where there's a fallowing to it, but it doesn't have the attention given to it then what Transformers tend to get.
Personally I think what nailed the gobots when they were still owned by Tonka, was that there was an element of wokeness to it even back then. There were certain episodes that I thought were very well done, but because of the fact that Hannah Barbera did not like violence in children cartoons (which I find ironic since his claim to fame and what he built his empire on was creating Tom and Jerry), that political correctness was injected into the show and I think marred it up a little bit where I think the toy line was more popular prior to the cartoon then it was after the cartoon. I just thought there was an element that was forced and kind of phony, and that was the reason why I like Transformers cartoon more than GoBots when I was a kid just because of the content.
Ironically enough, if they took the Japanese cartoon and translated it into English, even with the cultural aspects taken aside (the Japanese cultural values depicted in the cartoon), I got a feeling it would've faired better than the American because it had a vibe that was something between Transformers and aliens.
There were differences like crasher and small foot were dudes instead of chicks, but generally I thought it was better written
The reason why you haven't seen GoBots pushed is that they're playing favoritism for their lines back in the day then any other toyline that they've acquired through hostile takeovers, and basically doing a monopoly.
I'm an old school capitalist, but there's a part of me that would love to see a lot of these big companies getting hit with trust suits and being broken up into smaller companies again. I would like to see a company brought back that was like Toys r Us, and they're being multiple toy producers instead of Hasbro being the only one essentially here in the United States.
Even if they recycled the original molds that they used in the '80s, I still got a feeling that the toys would do pretty well today if there was a good marketing and cartoon show that went with it.
There are plenty of good classic toy lines that would do pretty well today, but the IP's are being sit on buy these major corporations and people in positions of power where they're being greedy or have no intelligence in terms of being able to sell a good product. Too many idiots in power that shouldn't be in the position that they're in.
Especially since Hasbro said that they don't want to be a toy company anymore, somebody should get the rights of these toy lines, and do something with them, but being greedy and wanting to be in the center of attention, I doubt that corporate at Hasbro will give up these IPS just because they want to be a control of everything.
That's why I think you haven't seen anything done with gobots.
And basically Hannah bandera is a defunct company at this point. They're owned by Warner Bros. Still have the same title but owned by Warner Brothers. What does technically Discovery now right?
I hate how people have got so hung up on making the current toys look exactly like the 1980s cartoon. Yes, you should keep them generally recognizable, but don't let them get completely fossilized.
As a suggestion Silver repaint of starscream with a reminder head as an autobot? Though in my head I would call him alpha leader as I never liked “leader 1” as a name… don’t like numbers in acctual names….
the root cause of gobot series is largely because of crappy US animation. Japan animations is much better.
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