Thanks for this video demonstration and for using the same mouthpiece to isolate most of the tone definition to the instrument. This is exactly what I was searching for.
Hey Gordon, fantastic demonstration mate. Nice to hear the Louis solo of Wild Man Blues. Louis was the king! So glad I found your channel mate. Cheers and 73! Simon
IMHO - You have the best demo of those 3 desired instruments (I play a silver pocket Jupiter and wishes for a bigger instrument to play better with less air pressure). Many thanks for sharing, I'm a fan :)
I have to say I am quite puzzled why the trumpet is the main instrument in the orchestra while the flugelhorn, which sounds like it continues the range of the (French) horn upward, has no use at all. Considering the refined sounds classical music tends to prefer, this seems like a huge oversight. They all have their place but it seems like the cornet is a very nice compromise. Personally I find the trumpet too strident and don't particularly care for it. Are the fingerings the same (i.e., if you play trumpet, can you play the other two exactly the same way)? Great comparison anyway.
@@MaestroTJS Same here in the UK but we tend to use Bb trumpet. US orchestras play C trumpet which is a bit brighter. Vaughan Williams used flugelhorn in some of his symphonies, but he also wrote separate trumpet and cornet parts so he had both in his orchestras. That stooped by the late 30s.
@@GordonHudson Thanks for your insights. Yeah, I have heard the C trumpet has displaced the Bb more and more as time has gone on for whatever reason. I did not know that about V.W. but I can see him making good use of them.
My cornet sounds like your trumpet. The same mouthpiece you use for the trumpet is a bit too deep to sound like a trumpet it's way to soft and mellow . Still your presentation is a good one . Actually It shows how much a mouthpiece can effect the general timbre of the instrument .
Flip Oaks X3X which is a very deep V shaped cornet mouthpiece. I happened to have a flugel that takes a cornet shank so it was easy to do this demonstration.
My ears must flop over because except for the flugelhorn being a little mellower, I can’t tell the difference between the three of them at all. Thanks for the exhibition though, it was enlightening.
I have no idea how i got here, i don't even play an instrument.. But i do like big band jazz... Anyway, that was entertaining - i did find it interesting thanks :)
I think it depends on the flugelhorn. I play a Courtois now and it has a really easy upper register. Mouthpiece choice affects playability too. FLugelhorns generally are a bit more fiddly to get right.
Flugelhorn jazz listen to Jerry Gonzalez Calle 54 here on RUclips 1st couple mins then more solo starting around 4:40 (watch the whole video), Great jazz instrument. I heard that most early jazz was on the cornet.
I think, in elementary & middle school bands the trumpet's brightness only emphasizes the errors and weaker embouchure of the student players. The Cornet and Flugelhorn provide more fundamental pitch and thus blend better.
Видеоклипы
Hymn:
2:17 Flugel
3:47 Cornet
4:54 Trumpet
Blues:
2:58 Flugel
4:12 Cornet
5:15 Trumpet
Ricky thanks for posting these!
Very well demonstrated and explained the differences of these great horns.
the flugel horn has a heavier tone and the trumpet a sharp tone. The cornet is in between.
Thanks for this video demonstration and for using the same mouthpiece to isolate most of the tone definition to the instrument. This is exactly what I was searching for.
thank you for such a clear cut comparison. I had been pondering this difference for a while now....
Hey Gordon, fantastic demonstration mate. Nice to hear the Louis solo of Wild Man Blues. Louis was the king! So glad I found your channel mate. Cheers and 73! Simon
Excellent experiment, using the same mouthpiece for all three! Thank you!
This is a great video, thank you! I will use this video as an example for the differences, whenever people will ask.
Thank you! Excellent concise comparison. Thanks for sharing.
IMHO - You have the best demo of those 3 desired instruments (I play a silver pocket Jupiter and wishes for a bigger instrument to play better with less air pressure). Many thanks for sharing, I'm a fan :)
Wow i did not even know they made that, has the same range as a regular trumpet and fits in a pocket!? sign me up boii
Interesting stuff Gordon. I often wondered about the difference in the three instruments.
You have a lovely tone - Something to aim for.
Thank you!
Thank you Gordon. I've always liked the flugelhorn. Now I know why. I used to think it was just because it had a cool name.
Thank you, from Argentina!
I have to say I am quite puzzled why the trumpet is the main instrument in the orchestra while the flugelhorn, which sounds like it continues the range of the (French) horn upward, has no use at all. Considering the refined sounds classical music tends to prefer, this seems like a huge oversight. They all have their place but it seems like the cornet is a very nice compromise. Personally I find the trumpet too strident and don't particularly care for it. Are the fingerings the same (i.e., if you play trumpet, can you play the other two exactly the same way)? Great comparison anyway.
In mainland Europe they use the rotary trumpet which is more like a cornet.
@@GordonHudson I live in North America where I think the piston valved ones are most prevalent.
@@MaestroTJS Same here in the UK but we tend to use Bb trumpet. US orchestras play C trumpet which is a bit brighter. Vaughan Williams used flugelhorn in some of his symphonies, but he also wrote separate trumpet and cornet parts so he had both in his orchestras. That stooped by the late 30s.
@@GordonHudson Thanks for your insights. Yeah, I have heard the C trumpet has displaced the Bb more and more as time has gone on for whatever reason. I did not know that about V.W. but I can see him making good use of them.
Listen to a C trumpet which is what is used in symphonies. B flat is more common and what you’d use for rock, jazz, Latin, etc.
Great sound on all three 🎶🎺🎶👏
My cornet sounds like your trumpet. The same mouthpiece you use for the trumpet is a bit too deep to sound like a trumpet it's way to soft and mellow . Still your presentation is a good one . Actually It shows how much a mouthpiece can effect the general timbre of the instrument .
Very useful indeed,thanks.
Very interesting!
awesome. thanks for posting.
Thank you for the explanation
Thank you. YES I found that useful. If you should ever decide to do a follow-up, how do the instruments "demand" different mouthpieces? Thanks P
I should try a trumpet mouthpiece in all three to show why that doesn't work! might do this soon.
Ah. Even without the demonstration, you teach with your "why that doesn't work." P
Seems like the instrument gets brighter as you go up from flugel, cornet, and trumpet? Is that fair to say?
Mark Anthony That is the case. It is a more extreme difference if you are using the correct mouthpieces on each.
That's it. The tubing becomes less conical as you move from flugelhorn to trumpet.
Gordon, liked very much your comparison. What mouthpiece did you used to demo all three in this video?
Flip Oaks X3X which is a very deep V shaped cornet mouthpiece. I happened to have a flugel that takes a cornet shank so it was easy to do this demonstration.
What brand of flugelhorn you have played? Thanks. Great video proving differences.
Boosey and Hawkes Imperial.
What's the highest note that can be reached on a flugelhorn? What mouthpiece did you use for all three?
I used a Flip Oakes X3X. You can play as high on a Flugel as a trumpet, but there is rarely anything high written for it.
@@GordonHudson thank you.
What horns and MP did you play? That Flugel looks unique to me…
I have the same 3 Horns, I prefer my frugal. It’s easier free blowing and has a great sounds....
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My ears must flop over because except for the flugelhorn being a little mellower, I can’t tell the difference between the three of them at all. Thanks for the exhibition though, it was enlightening.
I have no idea how i got here, i don't even play an instrument.. But i do like big band jazz... Anyway, that was entertaining - i did find it interesting thanks :)
What is the name of the hymn tune?
Is this the same fingering between all three ? I'm an intermediate trumpet player, but always has the cornet or flugelhorn timber in mind
Yes! Trumpet, Flugelhorn & Cornet are All Normally in the Same Key as Trumpet
What the name of the cornet and the flugel please?
Yamaha 6335 cornet and a Boosey and Hawkes Imperial flugel.
The flugelhorn to me is a little harder to play, it takes more input power (then a trumpet), is that normal?
I think it depends on the flugelhorn. I play a Courtois now and it has a really easy upper register. Mouthpiece choice affects playability too. FLugelhorns generally are a bit more fiddly to get right.
I see three kinds of you use the same mouthpiece?
Flugelhorn jazz listen to Jerry Gonzalez Calle 54 here on RUclips 1st couple mins then more solo starting around 4:40 (watch the whole video), Great jazz instrument. I heard that most early jazz was on the cornet.
trumpet's best
The first tune, they all sound very similar. The second tune, the trumpet clearly sounds like a trumpet
Flugelhorn
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I think, in elementary & middle school bands the trumpet's brightness only emphasizes the errors and weaker embouchure of the student players. The Cornet and Flugelhorn provide more fundamental pitch and thus blend better.
Am I the only one that thinks he sounds like Mike Boyd?
Which one will get me the most chicks?
Except the mouthpiece is all-important in the correct tonal quality. The only instrument that sounded true was the trumpet .
I was using a very deep cornet mouthpiece on all three.