How to Read Plato's Republic (10 Tips)

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  • @adellajones9887
    @adellajones9887 2 года назад +91

    I am commenting here due to this video being the most recent. I recently discovered your channel and I am just blown away. I am over 60 years old and still feel like I am just beginning. I have been reading since I was 20 years old but knew I missed something in my reading. I had NO ONE - not a single person - that I could talk to about anything I was interested in. It gets depressing when one thinks that they are the only one who thinks the Tudor dynasty is fascinating (this was about 40 years ago). I love books written between 1770 and 1930 periods of time. Anyway - I think I found a new best friend and absolutely love this channel. WOWEE!!!

    • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
      @MikeFuller-ok6ok 9 месяцев назад +2

      I am poor at reading but I dote upon academics such as yourself.
      I would like to learn about subjects such as 'German Romanticism', Plato's 'Theory of Forms', Goethe's 'Theory of Colours' ( although I think I can grasp the basics of that ) and some of these groundbreaking theories now which unite consciousness with theoretical physics such as Chris Langan's 'Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe' ( CTMU ) and Edward Close and Vernon Neppe's 'Gimmel Theory'. I think the latter two theories are a bit like the West Coast pot smoking Terrence McKenna type of mystifying nonsense but to quote Goethe "I admire those who seek the impossible." I admire intelligent thoughts whether I understand them or not! I find it great that so many people are far, far more intelligent than myself. It pleases me.

  • @keithlongley362
    @keithlongley362 2 года назад +13

    I don't believe this, I started reading the republic simply, because it had been lying on my shelf for years. The fascination for me, is you are essentially travelling back in time and listening to a great discourse between learned icons of men who could relate to Homer's works. I'd read the iliad and the Odyssey two years ago so this seemed a natural progression. Incidentally I've also started Blood Meridan, and I'm enjoying that as well. You are a star Sir, I really appreciate your mentorship.

  • @lizzyfrykman4527
    @lizzyfrykman4527 2 года назад +22

    I have been meaning to get into Plato a bit deeper, so this video came at the perfect time, thank you! I can't wait to dive into The Republic at a deep, thoughtful level.

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +1

      Nice one, Lizzy :) I’d love to hear what you make of it!

  • @prahelikarana1264
    @prahelikarana1264 2 года назад +8

    As I am new to these genre of books. I just wanted to understand how to start. This video is perfect to understand what I am deal with when it comes to Ancient Greek philosophy. A perfect introduction. Thank you for the help.

  • @carolynl4369
    @carolynl4369 2 года назад +16

    Your videos are so informative and your enthusiasm for philosophy is catching - I’ve just picked up Plato’s Republic, so your videos are invaluable. Really wish I could be a part of your book group/lectures 📚❤️

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад

      I really appreciate that :) Thank you, Carolyn! I hope you enjoy Plato's Republic!

  • @abhinavdeysarkar
    @abhinavdeysarkar 2 года назад +6

    This is so helpful and just in time because I was thinking of reading Plato's Republic but always have to put the thought in the box and throw it in the corner of my room. After all, it's Plato, so had many questions and wanted a deep pre-understanding, before reading such a great book, I was in a search of a video on RUclips about translations and many questions around the topic...and here I am with a confident understanding of where to start and how to start. Thank you so so much!

    • @mr.thegreat557
      @mr.thegreat557 2 года назад +1

      I’m reading the Desmond Lee translation. I’m surprised at how easy it is to read. I’ve never read Greek philosophy before, but I feel different since I started, hard to explain.

  • @carlosricardosilvavera638
    @carlosricardosilvavera638 Год назад +4

    I'm currently reading the republic, i'm in chapter 14 (i also have Robin Waterfield's translation), too bad i didn't find this video before. This book is mi first book of real philosophy and i'm really enjoying it.

  • @Xander102
    @Xander102 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve never read Plato , I’m intimidated, I don’t know if I’m smart enough to read his works . I’m going to try , because it all sounds so fascinating I’m half Greek myself and I feel like I should know more about Plato and Socrates … I’m now going to buy and read Plato. Ima give it go and try .

  • @chickencharlie1992
    @chickencharlie1992 2 года назад +5

    Well well well look at what we have here...
    A literature video nearly perfect to the form

  • @CoolBeans45
    @CoolBeans45 2 года назад +4

    Perfect timing, I started reading this last week & am almost through book 1.

  • @stuartwells4133
    @stuartwells4133 Год назад

    I clicked on this video last night not thinking I’d even keep watching a 44.41 minute talking video, but I stayed right until the end. I found this video very interesting and definitely something I would like to read one day Plato’s Republic.

  • @parlaydoubleup
    @parlaydoubleup 4 месяца назад

    I started reading the republic today. I’ve been building my interest in literature and the “great works” and your channel has added gas to my fire. Thank you for your invaluable insight!

  • @anneharrison3341
    @anneharrison3341 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much. I was not highly educated and I spent most of my adult life reading positive thinking books. I have discovered classics and philosophy books over the last short while. Without this incredible introduction I am sure I would have thought “what the”. Your passion, knowledge and those blue eyes give me a head start and I’m sure I will revisit this video during and after reading as I often have with other books. All the best wishes to you from Australia.

  • @th3omachos
    @th3omachos Год назад +1

    I got a hecking jumpscare when i saw how few people viewed this video, it is really sad how videos very well made and well thought disappear in RUclips. Thanks for the tips, i've read some books by Plato (I hope to read them all) and now i'm going to the Republic.

  • @mr.thegreat557
    @mr.thegreat557 2 года назад +3

    First time reading Plato (Penguin Classics) only half way through. It’s a brilliant read.

  • @NikephorosAer54
    @NikephorosAer54 6 месяцев назад

    Bravo ! "We are part in the discusion too!" Every time I read Πολιτεία I feel, like you say, in, there, inside. Yet, let's mension
    that Good for Πλάτων, is the Sun, the Light. A Greek friend, Demetrios Maniates.

  • @donaldkelly3983
    @donaldkelly3983 2 года назад +1

    First, another well executed presentation.
    I read The Republic twenty years ago, along with the major dialogues. I came to the conclusion that Plato didn't want philosophers to rule the state, but create an ideal republic where you could philosophize. I know there is more to The Republic than that, however.
    I had always heard Sparta was a horrible place to live, but reading Plutarch on the subject showed the particulars. Kill the helots without consequence, etc. Politically Plato was the enemy of an open society, as Karl Popper declared.

  • @garimadutta6005
    @garimadutta6005 2 года назад +6

    I would love to listen to your analysis of The Iliad. I picked up the book recently but I feel so intimidated by it.

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +9

      I'm actually planning a lot of Homer content at the moment, so I'll definitely be giving you my analysis of The Iliad, and The Odyssey :)

  • @yasienmohamed5868
    @yasienmohamed5868 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for s very informative lecture. I think i understand the essence of Plato better in these forty minutes than when I read Plato's Republic forty yrsrs years ago as sn undergraduate student of philosophy. Im inspired to read it again, perhaps not the whole book, but im particularly interested in the virtues of justice and courage

  • @devinfuller4045
    @devinfuller4045 Год назад +4

    So glad i found this channel! Thank you for the amazing content Benjamin!!

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  Год назад

      I appreciate that, Devin :) Thank you so much for watching!

    • @devinfuller4045
      @devinfuller4045 Год назад

      @@BenjaminMcEvoy My pleasure. I referred your channel to a few of my mates since we all enjoy the classics to a degree we established a junto type get together to read, review, debate, etc, all of the great authors we have at our fingertips!

  • @araucaria5173
    @araucaria5173 2 года назад +2

    Such a really great primer for The Republic, I've put it onto my reading list after this video. Thanks .

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад

      I'm so glad you found it useful :) Happy reading!

  • @Insatiableviel007
    @Insatiableviel007 2 года назад +2

    I would highly recommend you to read the Arthashastra by Vishnugupta Chanakya and the Upanishads... I think these books have much more deeper philosophical relevance.

  • @chanderkant9545
    @chanderkant9545 Год назад

    Your knowledge as well as your speaking style is fantastic. I am from India, but i don't face any difficulty in understanding your accent.

  • @unchiep216
    @unchiep216 2 года назад +3

    Signor McEvoy. Another top video, bruv! Been wanting to tackle this for a while - I studied it at A-Level Philosophy but cant remember any of it. Excellent stuff. I'm going to start this. I'm an actor/theatre director and you should definitely do a video on the great playwrights. (I recall you mentioned in a previous video you wanted to be a playwright?) I think that would be great. Unrelated, and if you havent already, check out Journey to the end of the night by Louis Ferdinand Celine. Incredible. Keep up the great contact, Ben. I always look forward to your videos.:)

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! I’m thrilled to hear you’re breaking into it again :) I’m actually putting together a regular “play of the month” feature at the moment. We had a podcast out recently on Arthur Miller, and more on the way on Chekhov, Ibsen, Wilde, and the great playwrights. That’s so great to hear you’re in theatre - it’s my dream :) And thanks for the recommendation! I read Céline’s End of the Night years and years ago, but I absolutely need to return to it. I think I’d get much more out of it now!

  • @bradchristy5002
    @bradchristy5002 8 месяцев назад

    Exceptional insight and extremely useful. This most certainly is a nice beginning discussion. Your work is priceless!

  • @razanaljiryes7808
    @razanaljiryes7808 Год назад

    The world is a better place because we have you Ben .. ❤

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  Год назад

      Aw, thank you so much, Razan. That is so incredibly kind of you 🙏❤️

  • @GraceKugrena
    @GraceKugrena 2 года назад +2

    This whole video was brilliant

  • @pavithrasrinivasan4459
    @pavithrasrinivasan4459 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video. I have followed your guidelines to read Proust and I’m loving the journey. So grateful. And also, those Proust and other cubes at your shelf are wow. Where shall I get such cubes?

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад

      Thank you, Pavithra :) I'm so happy to hear you're enjoying your Proust journey! Those lovely cubes were a kind gift from a book club member. I believe she found them from an Etsy store but designed them herself. There's Proust, Melville, Cormac McCarthy, and Shakespeare :)

  • @battybibliophile-Clare
    @battybibliophile-Clare 2 года назад +1

    I am reading a year long read of Greek Drama, but I am very interested in this project too. I shall read and watch the videos as they are interested. I am a recent supporter of your channel.

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад

      That's so great to hear, Clare. Any favourites from your year-long read of Greek Drama? I recently went back to Prometheus Bound and found the experience incredibly sublime.

    • @battybibliophile-Clare
      @battybibliophile-Clare 2 года назад

      @@BenjaminMcEvoy we read "Prometheus Bound" in January as the second read, and it was something of a culture shock. I need to read deeper and around Greek drama, but by the end of the year we will have read all the Greek plays. I am enjoying "Oedipus Rex" currently. However, there is so much to learn from the Greeks, I shall be going back again and again.. My copy of Plato's republic is on it's way. Your video really inspired me. Thanks so much for so enthusing me.

  • @ibnarasayoub5220
    @ibnarasayoub5220 2 года назад +2

    I've been seeking some tips and thoughts on this book. 👍🏻🖤

  • @alllowercase6277
    @alllowercase6277 2 года назад +2

    wow
    energise, inspire and embolden it most certainly did.
    electric, scintillating.
    most books i just fall into thoughtlessly but the republic needs prep, and this amazing video was perfect for this. am on the waterfield version too, and the critical introduction alone is like a piece of philosophical work onto itself.
    thank you for this tour de force of a vid benjamin. i am subscribed.

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +2

      Thank you, my friend! I appreciate that so much :) I'd love to hear your thoughts on Plato as you make your way through!

  • @light000blue
    @light000blue 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this inspiring and highly informative introduction, to someone that has not read Plato yet, but now, surely want to. As you speak of going into a dialogue with the writer, I remembered that there is an edition of the Republic by the philosopher Alain Badiou, where he supposedly does that., to update the dialogue to our times. Do you know anything about that book?

  • @khadimndiaye7730
    @khadimndiaye7730 2 года назад

    Definitely want to read Republic, read already the Apology and currently planning all of Plato 😅

  • @joaoseibold777
    @joaoseibold777 2 года назад +1

    I have discovered you recently and you change my perspective on literature. I'm currently rereading my favourite books, which has long been over due. I'm considering signing up for the Hardcore Literature Book Club. Do I have access to all the content you produced or only for example the Proust contents ?
    Lots of love from Germany

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад

      Thank you, Joao! It's so great to have you watching over in beautiful Germany :) You would be very warmly welcomed to the club, and we would be so happy to have you reading with us. Signing up for the Proust Tier unlocks everything :)

  • @thelaurels13
    @thelaurels13 2 года назад +2

    I’ve always been intimidated by this, yet I’ve always wanted to read it. I’m afraid I’m not smart enough to understand it. Perhaps I should just get it and give it a go.

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely, you should give it a go. You're definitely smart enough. You may be surprised how accessible the work is :)

  • @toddbelanger1923
    @toddbelanger1923 2 года назад +1

    This is intense... Love it...brain shaking video...Yahooooo

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +1

      Thank you, Todd :) Brain shaking video! I love that :)

  • @adrianasanchez3669
    @adrianasanchez3669 2 года назад +2

    Once again, wonderful video!

  • @johnjabez6300
    @johnjabez6300 2 года назад

    When you said love is a choice not a feeling I went:
    'A man who is speaking the truth

  • @allon33
    @allon33 Год назад

    Well done, giving us all a good talking to. 👍

  • @susprime7018
    @susprime7018 2 года назад

    Then you arrive at Alexander the Great (egomaniac), we are reliving the horrors of the twentieth century and all the centuries. Bring back your shield or be upon it, that's cold Sparta Mom. Thank you from a Spinoza fan.

  • @s864008
    @s864008 2 года назад

    I want to start to read republic to know if the society they are portraiting is the one already been accomplished in the empire of Persia. Indeed, justice was the great axe of governance by Cyrus the great and Greek philosophers may have claimed it as their own thoughts and wishes.

  • @markantrobus6794
    @markantrobus6794 Год назад +1

    PLEASE READ THE PRESOCRATICS MORE DEEPLY. Heraclitus ALSO SPOKE OF THE LOGOS. Where all is ONE. The rap on Parmenides is popular and mistaken. HERACLITUS and PARMENIDES. complement one another.
    Quantum physics redeems PARMENIDES.

  • @ll3568
    @ll3568 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for another great video Ben, just bought the complete works of Plato last week coincidentally and this video helped a lot in my preparation for reading the Republic, perhaps the one I’m most excited for. I’ve been researching an order in which to read his works and Oxford recommends different methods to tackle this as according to some Neoplatonists and scholars, apparently Plato perhaps changed his way of thinking over time or questioned certain conclusions in later dialogues. Would you recommend reading any of his other works before the republic given one has access to all of them? I’ve been told by past philosophy professors that it’s not worth getting bogged down in chronology and to simply start with what philosopher and specific work peaks your interest most initially, perhaps you feel the same. Cheers from the public library on Buena Vista in Burbank✌🏼

    • @carneades4409
      @carneades4409 2 года назад +3

      Can't hurt to start with the Apology and Crito. The Gorgias treats some of the same themes as the Republic but is somewhat shorter and more accessible. But I agree with your past professors that you can start with whatever is most interesting to you.

    • @ll3568
      @ll3568 2 года назад +2

      @@carneades4409 good to know about those three, really appreciate the suggestions brother. Fair enough, I assumed I might find others who generally share that approach to reading

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! I'm so glad you enjoyed it :) And it's fantastic to hear you've got all of Plato in front of you. I would personally agree with your philosophy professors, and Carneades above, that the best approach would be to pick the works that most intrigue you. They all have different thematic preoccupations. If you find the theme of love more interesting than justice, for example, you could read The Symposium before Plato's Republic (much slimmer read, and we have a video breaking this down in the book club). As for a chronological reading, it's a very cool idea and you may already know that I love doing this. It's quite a "deep cuts" approach when it comes to philosophers. If it excites you, I say go for it :) Plato's "first period" would include works like the Apology, Gorgias, and Creto. His "second period" has his Meno (which I love), Symposium, and Republic. Personally, I would recommend starting with the Republic, and branching off from there. And happy reading over in Burbank :)

  • @allon33
    @allon33 Год назад

    Plato controlled his Ego, and therefore channel the words of God. God loves us more than anyone else could.

  • @caffeineandphilosophy
    @caffeineandphilosophy Год назад

    Excellent introduction

  • @gilbertgonzales915
    @gilbertgonzales915 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thks

  • @MyHeartBeatistheWorld
    @MyHeartBeatistheWorld 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent

  • @mohammedsadiq7038
    @mohammedsadiq7038 4 месяца назад

    THANKS

  • @Poundsoffpixie
    @Poundsoffpixie 2 года назад +1

    Hi ben, many thanks for this video. I am just about to start the Republic, and after listening to you I feel less confused and more ready to be challenged (or to question the philosophers!). I wonder if you have read any modern (say the past 30 years) imaginative literature / utopia literature that you could recommend? many thanks!

  • @professorsogol5824
    @professorsogol5824 11 месяцев назад

    An aphoristic philosopher wrote
    むさんやな甲の下のきりぎりす
    muzan ya na kabuto no shita no kirigirisu
    heartless: under the helmet, a cricket

  • @ethangoggin9874
    @ethangoggin9874 2 года назад

    Hello, Mr. Benjamin.
    I am enrolling in an English Program at my local college, I have some concerns though. I’ve heard a lot about “the school of resentment” and ideology in English programs. I wanted to know your thoughts on current academics in English. Should I be concerned about this?

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад

      My thoughts on current academics in English - that's a whole video in itself! I wouldn't like to generalise, as colleges and educational programs will vary wildly depending on a whole host of different factors. It would be best to learn about your specific program and what you're going to be reading. Going to college is an investment in yourself and your future (often an incredibly expensive one nowadays), so a little bit of research to ensure the investment is a wise one would be a good idea. And then, ultimately, going into the course with an open mind and a thirst for knowledge is important. Good luck with your studies - I'm sure you have a wonderful adventure in store for you :)

    • @ethangoggin9874
      @ethangoggin9874 2 года назад +1

      @@allen5455 one thing that alarmed me about my college is every semester they offer a course called “Gender and Sexuality in Literature,” but they offer nothing in Shakespeare or Milton, and they teach nothing before Chaucer.
      Reading Shakespeare in high school and again after is what inspired me to study Literature, but I fear ideology and politicization has ruined it.

  • @jankoszuta9835
    @jankoszuta9835 2 года назад

    What a brilliant video!

  • @williamnelson9332
    @williamnelson9332 Год назад

    I think this is great and can use this after they destroy ower world as we now and start over if man is still around

  • @allon33
    @allon33 Год назад +1

    Socrates was the John Lennon of his time.

  • @allon33
    @allon33 Год назад

    And the tall whites told Charlie, we would rather take you to new worlds, where you can improve the world for both of us! Yet your military wants this all to remain secret.

  • @cloudslady3400
    @cloudslady3400 2 месяца назад

    It has been sitting on my shelves for a while now….i successfully read Descartes books three of the hardest he has written and I feel drained…what makes ancient philosophy books impossible somehow is the language itself…I’m not a native English and the translations to Arabic are so horrible compared to the English version…so it took me a lot of suffering to adapt to the words and the concepts..
    Otherwise I would pretty much finish it sooner I’ve always found philosophy to be super natural to me unless the language is complex…which is completely unnecessary if you have authentic knowledge why use cliche French words???…I lost a lot of respect to modern philosophers who use that method to seem sophisticated…

  • @jimsteele3423
    @jimsteele3423 Год назад +1

    I really love this channel thank you for your channel of your books you love to

  • @mawalir937
    @mawalir937 Год назад

    started the republic read the first 100 pages and gave up.

  • @MrGenarogutierrez77
    @MrGenarogutierrez77 2 года назад

    👍🏽

  • @abraham5781
    @abraham5781 2 года назад +1

    I don't know why, but reading Moby Dick was much harder than Plato's republic.

    • @BenjaminMcEvoy
      @BenjaminMcEvoy  2 года назад +1

      I'm completely with you on that. I would place Moby Dick above Plato's Republic in difficulty as well!

  • @jimsteele3423
    @jimsteele3423 Год назад

    Can’t wait to read this book

  • @SuperPussyFinger
    @SuperPussyFinger Год назад +2

    I don’t know who you are, but I know genius when I see it.