Restringing the Grote with flat wounds - How does is sound? Do I still like this guitar?
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I've been kicking the Grote jazz guitar around the house for quite awhile and I'm ready to try new strings on it. Might as well do something different and try some jazzy flatwounds.
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Keep the flats on that guitar they sound really good. I think most of us have enough guitars in our collections to keep a few with different sounds. Not every guitar has to have nine gauge slinkys on them.
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That guitar sounds great! I keep heavy gauge flatwounds on my archtop hollowbody....one great thing about them...they don't wear out frets ever! They also last forever.....never broke a string on a flatwound guitar..
Can verify these results with a Epiphone Swingster and flatwounds with p90s; sounds amazing and is always ready to play.
You’ve read my mind, I have an Ibanez Artcore AK85 And was seriously considering trying flat wounds on it. Thanks for this timely video 🙏🏼
And I've changed mine to flatwounds yesterday...
I have the similar Ibanez AG85 (bubinga top) and I've had it professionally set up for jazz(ish) stuff, with Chrome flatwounds and with lowered neck pickups. Very nice I think. Now all I have to do is learn how to play jazz(ish) stuff.
I've had chromes on my '78 Ibanez Magnum Pro for about a year now and they're great.
My Strat and Squier M80 both have Daddario half rounds. They are in between regular and flat wound strings in every way and they are definitely my favorite strings.
I really liked the acoustic string sound on that guitar 🎸
Sounds ballsy - should call them ‘Scrote’ guitars
That is a scrotastic idea! lol
I love my Grote. I customized it with a SuperTron, new milkglass tuners, custom walnut and abalone tailpiece, electronics and restained top. 💚🏴☠️🤘
This is my favorite guitar at the moment...plugged in! I put these same flatwounds on it right away, and they are so sweet. Grote needs to make one with a soft edge by the elbow (like a strat) and a cutout. It vibrates even more than my big deep hollow body, which is quite stimulating. I have the "natural wood" version. It is sharp! All things considered it's the best bang for buck in my quiver. But....unplugged.....eh... I grab a Orangewood Rey CO with Acoustic flats. I think you need a more comfortable acoustic if this drives your dread away ;) Thank you!!!
I just got The GROTE Jazz Electric Guitar Semi-Hollow Body Trapeze Tailpiece Bridge (ES 335 Style) after hearing your GROTE Jazz Electric Guitar Hollow Body with those D'Addario ECG23 Chromes Flatwound Electric Strings -.010-.048 Extra Light. They sound very nice to me! Nice tone! Perfect smoothness, not too smooth, just right! I'm ordering a set for my Grote! Thanks for the video!
The sound the grote produces with those flats is reminding me of my gretsch streamliner with roto flats on it Ps: old man on the back porch by presidents of the USA is an awesome tune
I think the guitar sounds good with the flat wound strings. I use Chrome 12-52 on my archtop. I was surprised that they didn't sound dull and thuddy as well. I love the way flat wound strings feel. I had round wounds on that guitar before, and it just made it sound like a solid body, without any particular advantages. So, if you want guitars that sound and play differently, go for flats on true archtop guitars.
I have a Purple Grote 335 with gold hardware and a Duesenberg flat arm trem and a gold metalflake pick guard. It plays and looks great! I wish this guitar was available when I started playing back in the mid 60's.
Sounds great, a really nice little guitar at a really nice price. Definitely worth giving one of these a go.
I love the Chromes, damn shame they’ve doubled in price over the last 5 years.
Like the PUSA riffs man! You should make a guitbass or basitar out of the next cheapy project guitar you get it, that'd be rad!
Bought that album used for a buck, a great listen start to finish
Digging the flats!
I like the way it sounds!
My punky rockabilly band Burning Mules at times used an Alvarez dreadnought set up with a lipstick pickup where the sound hole meets the fret board with flats on it for rhythm parts. It's a great for that chunky backing sound, leaves more of the high end open for the lead guitar and vocals.
The Grote sounded pretty good with both sets of strings.
Sounds great! Heavier flats are where the magic is, IMO. Try some 12’s!
Hey Ryan, I have used D'Adario Half Rounds on all my hollow/semi/chambered guitars for years best of both worlds. Try'em out.
I put flat wound 11s on my Tele and I love it. They do make everything jazzier. Great playing, Ryan.
I love my Grote, I keep it on a wall hanger in my living room and play it almost every day. I've been curious about flatwounds, interesting video! I went looking for some about a decade ago to try out on another hollowbody I own, but couldn't find any and never got around to ordering a set.
Flatwound curious! ;oP
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Very nice sounds, Ryan. I just bought a 27 year old Casino - my first hollow body - and it's a gas to play around the house. Sounds so sweet! Not the same as the Grote, but I get a similar vibe from it. I'm astonished at the incredible low prices of Grote guitars on their China website. And I like that they're going by their own name rather than doing ripoffs of other companies' brands.
Flat wounds, roller floating bridge and adjustable brass nut and it sounds like a dream for under $250
if those chromas dont suit your needs you could try the daddario exl110w which are basically just nickel wound strings but wuth a wound third. i put them on my framus jazzbox all the time and prefer them over the chromas
Amplified, those flatwounds slay the acoustic strings! Acoustically, the flatwounds are quieter than the acoustic strings but it sounds sweeter. I'd say the flatwound strings were a win on this guitar! 👍😁...😎
The other brand cofigs of this axe style come with 11/50 flats, sound like deep 50's jazz vibe, nice.
Ryan,
Truly impressive video you did. I think it sounded great with both types of strings. I would say if you're going to play slide more the flats are better. That extra sound made by standard wound moving up and down the next, not always great. Now the sound of flat wounds on a Resonator Guitar makes alot of difference in pronounced sound. I have them on both of mine and love them. You are a very modest person you talent for breaking down the tones is incredible and I appreciate it. Keep it up.
I just ordered this guitar for my son on his 8th birthday coming up this month
I tried some flat wounds on my Gretsch Pro Jet about a year ago, they sounded great for rhythm, but were a hard to bend on the 3rd string. I took them off after a couple of months. That Grote guitar seems like a lot of guitar for the money, maybe I'll try one.
Look at the Gretsch Rancher, very interesting thing (with humb and bigsby)
BTW the best flatwounds I have ever used are the Thomastik Infeld JS120 bebop Jazz strings. Top two are gold which looks nice but they are beautiful sounding.
Really enjoyed your playing in this video, specially the trem/reverb/slide stuff. Just my kinda thing and much like what I like to play as well.
Found one today at the Groat site. 170 no tax no shipping.
I meant free shipping it's on it's way from L.A. Area
I only have one acoustic guitar that still has phosphor bronze.. Everything else has Nickel Wound Electric D'addario. Either 11-50 Balanced (my Junior) or 12-52/53 Nyxl. Strings grounded and pickups installed.
Half rounds make my Bass feel great and sound very similar to round wound.
10-48 seem like a bad tension... Electric that's fine but acoustic it may have lost a bunch.
12-52 range NYXL would be my string set for that. For that Drop C# anyhow
Sounds fine as is with the flats
Chromes are good for twangy or surfy stuff as the tension is quite high but i highly recommend trying Thomastik Jazz swings as they have a lot less tension (whole gauge down approx) and feel smoother and sleeker, tone is brighter too! i'm not a TI rep btw, just a guy who has at least three of his axes with flatwounds on, i have a mixture!
Very nice tone. Good intonation too.
I was wondering what you tuning was. Thanks for your videos and your string demos. I love me some flatwounds for jazz tones and being much easier on the fingers… 👍✌️
Maybe could consider trying round wound nickel strings with a wound 3rd? I use flat wound on my full body jazz box, but use standard round wound with a wound 3rd in my thin body hollow and semi hollow guitars.
OK...I got the chromes - (and some locking tuners)
Cover me! I'M GOIN' IN! 🤬
I put flatwounds on my semi-hollow but didn't like them. I do use them on my bass though Rotosound jazz flats
I've never played flats before. Someday I will get a hold of a full hollow and try them.
I used to play them on an sg for years. Totally worth trying them on a sold body too
in my experience, those 'chrome' flatwounds are the worst ive tried. yes, all flats are more dead sounding than regular rounds or nickel...but the chromes were just lifeless. i'd highly recommend the thomastik swings if you want to be extra polite or the pyramid flats. both a bit pricey but they last a long time and will grant you a more genuine experience of flats...
Actually I like that guitar ☺️
Sounds pretty good 👍👍
Love it!
I just got mine do you know are they 9’s? For stock I’m keeping it with electric strings
Great sustain.
Nice playing!
Nice guitar sounds great
I put flat 12's on my Epi SG to play CCR with Slide, it's great👍
Chromes are awesome strings, they’ve doubled in price in the past 5 years though.
I love that guitar. It's not a squier. But it's still very good guitar. I'd get one.
It sounds cool, but I really liked it with the acoustic strings
Sound great✌️
Easier to listen too , very pleasant tone, very cool.
I've been considering one of these, but something I've noticed is a lack of either a gig bag or case being made available for the Jazz Guitar style (neither Grote nor Redid labels seem to show them anywhere). If you have found a suitable bag or hard case, could you share what make and model you use (or modified for use)? Thank you so much, and thank you for your videos ~
I like the flats.
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That's a good sound, & the great thing about Flatwound Strings is that they won't scratch the frets. This is why Jazz Guys like using Flatwound Strings on both Fretless & Fretted Basses. For Fretless Basses you get an Upright Bass feel, & for Fretted Basses the Frets will last longer.
A good guitar player can make a wet noodle sound great. Add in some gushy effects and there you go.
are they still worth it with the extra shipping? they are extra 65 dollars on shipping for those outside the US. (shipping from China)
still cannot find other archtops for total 225 bucks
what string tuning on this are u useing
Darn missed premier. I switched to flatwounds on my hollow body godin. String screech from sliding up or down was unbearable before.
I can't tell, is that red translucent, transparent or solid? Cheers, mate, Pete.
That guitar is FOR flatwounds.
About 10 years ago I switched all my electrics to "Chromes". I take a 12 - 52 set get rid of the 52, move all the strings down one place on the guitar and put a .009" on the high side. In essence making a 9 - 42 flatwound set with plain 3rd, since most flatwound sets have wound 3rds. I'll have to look for that 10 set since that would be less work. Is the 3rd plain or wound ? The guitar sounds great but as you can tell I'm biased toward flats.
I use GHS Precision Flatwounds for that very reason- their "750 Rock" set are 9-42 with an unwound 3rd.
@@ShadowhandofDune I just found them about 3 months ago. When my back stock of Chromes is done I will be switching to the GHS.
Wbere the jazz
I bet some Martin retro monel strings would sound good on it.
Half rounds are my go to strings for my es-339.
But half rounds don't sound like true flatwounds. They are just regular strings which are "ground" to give the feel of a flatwound but with the sound of non-flats. At least that is what I learned after I tried them as I was happy with the feel ... but not with the sound.
I’d say they are brighter than flat wounds but not as bright as full round wounds. I love round wound tones and flat feels so they are a perfect compromise for me! 😁
I agree. If you want a true flat wound sound half rounds are not what you want.
Should I go down one step in gauge when switching to flat wound right now I use 10/47s.
Flatwounds start at 10 gauge. You won’t find them any lighter than that as far as I know.
At about the 9 minute mark, I thought you were about to break into Led Zeppelin's "Rain Song"
How's it holding up with the flatwounds? Thanks!
..Namaskar.. Ryan ..have tried Revelation-Guitars ..?
Revelation-Marrakesh axe ..interesting ..?
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Hi Ryan, I got mine directly from the manufacturer. Which bridge would you recommend as a replacement?
I just put a rosewood bridge and base off an old silvertone on mine and it really came to life imo. The base the guitar comes with is just really dead sounding to me
Like the flatwounds. Your not that bad on slide guitar! Another great video / demo. I am resubscribing now that I don't see the **** Your Ears Tee shirt. Yes I am old, but you have more class than that. Love your Hawiian shirts and other Tee Shirts., (60 Cycle Hum, Surfrajettes, etc). Surf's Up!! Hoping to still see the Squier Cyclone some day. The afford-a-board series has been good also. Looking to buy my own Grote guitar.
d'addario chromes don't sound like "real " flatwounds : try some Thomastik Infeld : you'll get a real Jazz sound , the D chromes are good for surf and rockabilly . I use Thomastik Infeld roundwounds too , really great on my strats and Mustangs can't go wrong with Thomastiks . For my teles I use Ernie Ball Pure Nickel strings : those strings are crazy good : 6 months later they still have that new strings sound !
Is there a pickup change in the future?
I kind of dug the acoustic sound
Good stuff. What size are the frets please?
I was kind of interested in this model after seeing it on amazon but since your video’s gone up they’ve sold out hahaha
Carlos Prishker that’s been a common problem lately.
@@60CycleHumcast Nice video as usual brother. If you haven't tried them yet, the daddario half round strings are amazing. Super smooth, no finger noise but not as dark as the chromes.
Looks like Jack White‘s Seven Nation Army Guitar
If your someone who plays many styles. Flat wounds will not be for you. I've tried them I few times and they always lack that new string sparkle we love. Good video though🤘
do you live in new orleans? i saw someone on CL selling a doubleneck that looks like you or a doppleganger.
The slide and the delay.
Hi Ryan, am trying to get the great surf sound, have a squire jazz master mini and a fender blues junior. If I whack the reverb up I get a real good springy reverb sound, but sounds like I’m in a big hall. What’s the best thing to do to minimise , or get a better sound, thanks.
For a good surf sound, turn off the amp reverb. If a spring tank is too expensive, which they are for most people, get an EHX Oceans 11.
You'll not find a better surf sound to compliment your Jazzmaster.
Oceans 11 spring setting is the best budget friendly surf sound out there.
Thanks guys, I’ll have a look, much appreciated.
@@60CycleHumcast I agree. I bought mine based upon Ryan's exhaustive series of reviews.
Watched your video yesterday went to buy one today on amazon and yesterday it was available today it's not. Bummed :(
They are back at $169 on Amazon. Just got mine today.
I am Grote.
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I thought it sounded terrific.
im @0:03 Yes yes u do
Ryan Fitzpatrick?
Did I catch that right? Guitar is tuned down to Eb and the big E string down to C#?
Yep. It’s drop d, but flat, lol
Yeah, thanks, to the both of you. About 30 minutes after I posted this, it hit me, LOL
"Looks like another short one today" That's what she said! 😱
Just kidding, glad to get some 60 Cycle Content in on my Wednesday. 👍
D'Addario still has web page with no mention of being closed, stuff still on Sweetwater. Don't know. I hope they will be alright, they are a good company.
They were closed, they are back up now. They took time off at the start of quarantine
@@60CycleHumcast glad to hear that!
I wouldn't buy an archtop jazzbox to get an acoustic sound. That's why I have an acoustic.
That "flat roundish sort of sound"...OK :)
Needs a wooden bridge
Had some shoegaze sounds going on with that tremolo
Acoustic strings sounds better...
C'mon man. Learn some chromatics! Jazz ain't that hard. Big misconception. Half of the genre isn't even in key.
10:04. Guess I can't say you didn't technically play jazz. Half steps! Impressionism!
You are playing every style that this guitar was not made for. Poor review.
A novelty but it's not working put the nickel wounds back on.
Haha look at all the guitars behind him I think he's got enough conventional tones on tap.