This is a fantastic review, very detailed and particular. I am looking at buying a chromatic either a 270 or 270 Deluxe. I like the design and the ease of dismantling that the 270 Deluxe offers. The 270 construction (nails) is very much like a classic Hohner Marine Band diatonic and is the cheaper of the two for this reason. Sound wise, I do agree with one comment that the 270 has a darker sound. For me, it may the choice at this time, considering the type of music I want to use it for; blues , rock and jazzy type stuff.
Hi. It’s a great review. But I regret buying 270. Should had ordered 270 deluxe. 270 square holed Hohner is a worst I purchased. So much air loss. Have to blow hard
Nice review. I actually own both. But you should have included the Discovery 48. It's based on the Chromonica 270. It is not only beefier in size and weight, but the slide is zigzag, which I prefer over both shown in the video.
Very interesting comparison! 😊 Playing a instrument so small, makes the small differences big. Especially if you need to play for long periods of time.
Thank you, chromatic harmonica is very sensitive on every thing you change. No matter design or material. That's why so many combination out there for selection.
Hi Owen. Excellent presentation. I have two Hohner Chromonica,s 270 and one Hohner Chromonica 280 C I much prefer to play the 270 (12 hole) than the 280 (16) hole. The 16 hole far too cumbersome for me. I also prefer the square hole, however the round hole is more comfortable The main thing I got from this is when I buy a new one I would definitely choose the DELUX model, because of the screw removal of the reed plates. I am scared of removing the reed plates on my 270's for fear of damaging the cones. Is there a tool you can suggest for removing nails safely . Thanks again Owen, I got a lot out of it.
Hi, thanks for watching, there are so many ways to open up the nail, you can use a knife, cutter (bigger size ) flat screw driver or anything that are flat and hard. When you open it up, you need to pay attention on your hand, be gentle and slow to put in the cutter or knife in the gap that between the comb and reedplate. Do it slowly, it is not too difficult to open up the reedplate, as the wooden comb are male by pearwood. Try to do it on left side then only slowly move to middle and right side. On the right side there is a spring nail attached to the reedplate, you can pull up the whole reedplate slowly after you saw the gap between comb and reedplate are getting bigger. I wish you enjoy on this process.
The back ( inside) of the mouthpiece is extremely rough (10:17). The result is a lot of air loss. I sanded it completely smooth and then polished it. The improvement is noticeable in a quicker response and less fatigue.
@@owenharmonica Thank very much for your quick response. I’ve played 270’s for years and the mouth piece is removed much more than the reed plates. Though I appreciate Hohner mounting the read plates with machine screws. I feel it’s short sighted and lazy to not include this with the mouth piece when producing the deluxe.
Sir, after hearing tune and about maintenance i like deluxe. So your precious video help me for choosing and will buying better harmonica... So i lot's of thankful you... And one request for you that give me here those link or video between different of SUZUKI SONGSTAR and HONER 270 DELUXE. Which is better...? Please 🙏
@@owenharmonica thanks sir ! And i want to discuss you personally about buying better harmonica and aluminium comb of deluxe 270. So please sir, can you give me your Whatsap number...
Dear oven thank you so much for your extremely valuable rare , scientific analysis of 270 chromanica s,,,,I recently purchased a second hand 270 chromanica original one not the deluxe,,,and dismantled mouth plates for cleaning,,,my goodness,,,, comb is almost damaged near the mouth plate fixing nails and slider spring,,, somehow with the help of some glue and and great effort I managed to get it fixed,,,but I'm sure this is the last chance that I have to clean it removing mouth plate,,,,so please help me to get this solved,,,is there an economical plastic or metal comb to be purchased in market to replace this deteriorated comb,,,,if so will I have to drill new holes in the Reed plate,,,,also will I be able to remove present wooden comb from the Reed plates,,,removing rivets,,,,and also where to find new screws for fixing new comb to Reed plates,,,,, please help
Your video really helps. I have a 270 myself and play it for months and I find my lips get dry easily and can't practise further. Do you think it's because of the mouthpiece design or material of the instrument? Any other tips? Thanks.
Hi, this is very command issue that beginner will get dry on the lips when you play on the harmonica. That's why you can look closing on most of the good player video, whenever there is a rest gap between music note, we will use tongue to moist the lips to continue playing. This is also part of the technique need to be learn. Hope you can get it and enjoy when you play.
Owen, do you ever play other keys of the 270? Or do you stick with key of C no matter the key signature? And why not play the Super 64 instead? Curious about your thoughts on this. thanks. Great video by the way - the deluxe tone really came through, and the duet at the end was wonderful.
Hi, thanks for support and watching my video. I have came across to play different key before, as my hearing is fix C, and I get confusion when I play different key. For example when I play Bb key, in C major is draw note, but in Bb major is blow note, I will draw the note immediately when I hear Bb, so I prefer C major for myself. I do agree that using different key to play some of the songs are better in result. It depends on your choice. For 16 holes I do have super 64, 64x, hearing 16,n CBH 2016. I will also do a review on that.
It is depend on your need, personally i will choose 270 Deluxe because the reeds is longer and it can produce more deep n colourful tone but some of the player would like 270 as well, because it can play n control very easily on the sound as the reeds is short.
@@owenharmonica Thanks for your precious reply. Actually I'll play Indian classical and Bollywood music. Please suggest me a good model in this price range you can suggest me another brands if you want.
Sve ove hromatske su vrhunske dok su nove.Ja imam tri super chromonike 270 ali posle dve godine nisu ni blizu onom nivou kvaliteta zvuka iako ih nisam koristio intenzivno.Brzo se razstimaju a i ventili su im problematicni.Ja njih mogu koristiti a da daju korektan zvuk najduze manje od godinu dana.Cetvrtaste resetke su potpuno neprakticno uradjene livenjem metala sa izuzetno ostrim ivicama koje ostecuju krajeve usta i deo obraza.To je kod sviraca koji sviraju tehnikom blokade jezikom gde je harmonika mnogo dublje u ustima.Ne svira se tom tehnikom usnama nego celim ustima i jezikom.Ostre ivice doprinose i pored pranja i higijene usta i jezika, skidanju naslaga jezika na resetku i onda dalje u unutrasnjost na trske sto dovodi do njihove znatne blokade u sviranju.Zavrtnji koji drze resetku pricvrscenu za drveno telo harmonike su potpuno neodgovatajuci.Imaju isuvise sitne navoje kao za metal.Oni se jednostavno rasklimaju i ne drze dobro resetku koja onda propusta vazduh i harmonika skoro da ne moze svirati.Kada se svira na jedan ton kao sto to vecina vrhunskih umetnika radi kondenzacija je mala pa se ventili pogotovo sa unutrasnje strane manje lepe za plocu.Kod sviranja u dvoglasu ,sa akordima i istovremenim sviranjem ritmike i basova, duva se dosta vise rupa od jedne.Ja duvam u melodiji od jedne do cetiri pet rupa odjednom.Kondezacija je ogromna pogotovu u uslovima sviranja u prirodi tj. na otvorenom gde je tempetstura dosta niza od temperature pluca i onda dolazi da se ventili zalepe za plocu i ne otvaraju i sprecavaju dobijanje tona delimicno ili potpuno.Medjutim izgleda da proizvodjaci nemaju dovoljno informacija jer se oslanjaju na iskustva samo sviraca na jedan ton sto je pogresno.
Hi, I think most of the harmonica player had the similar issue like you do. the condensation are a challenge to the sticky valve. I had an experience where when I perform live in show, it will be very easy to get sticky valve. But with one exception, I use the same playing method while playing slow tune. In slow tune, is very easy to get sticky valve as holding long note in the same hole will very easy to contain water mist in the comb, reed and reedplate. It will end up sticky valve. I over come this issue with a new harmonica, where you didnt do practice on it or you may change the new reedplate while you perform. The best way is prepare 2 same harmonica to switch around while you had issue. The whole song I perform didnt had any sticky valve at all, although the water mist is still inside the comb and reedplate. So maintenance and hygiene become a very important part to avoid sticky valve. There is no 100% resolve on this sticky valve as our body naturally will had water mist while air blowing out. Another way is cut shorter the valve in order to make the valve don't stick too much on the surface. It still can play and little scarify on the air leak. This can be work to pro long the playing time. For the screw part. I think it is the basic setting, for wooden comb it always had a challenge that if you open the comb too much time, it will lead to air leak issue. So maybe plastic comb or metal comb is more easy for maintenance. Hope this help you. Cheer.
Hi, definitely will make a comparison of both harmonica
5 лет назад
The Suzuki Songstar? As far as I know, that model has been replaced by the Chromatix. I own all three models as well as the mentioned Hohner. IMO, the Suzuki beats the Hohner by a country mile.
Hi, thanks for your support and comment. As we know, in others industry like auto industry or toys industry , those international brand they have several production plant in the world, and last it will claim back the credit to where the original birth place of the brands. There are few angle that we can look at it. No doubt there are so many parts involve in the harmonica, and not all part are make in German. But the idea, and technology are from them, is just a mirror transfer of the making parts in the different locations. In my opinion, I don't mind where it makes, as long as the QC, quality and performance are tip top. Cheers
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Ein tolles Video.
Dieses hat mir beim Kauf meiner Suzuki Chromatic bestätigt.
Ein tolles Instrument. Kann es nur empfehlen.
A very good presentation. It was very helpful for me to choose the correct instrument. Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching and beautiful compliment. Do share and subscribe. Have a nice day
Thank you, great video
Nice presentation. Thanks for detailed information.
@@eunsangjeon1737 thank you for your support and stay tune on my update
Terima kasih! I appreciate your kind efforts to educate us about the classic 270. Cheers to you.
Great video! Thank you.
I hv just bought super chromonica 270. I am a beginner. I am so excited.
Enjoy 😍😊😊
Very great video. Thanks for doing such an in depth exploration of these instruments!
Hi, you are welcome, if you love the video, please share and subscribe. Wish you a very good day. Thank you
Very useful information and comparison. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much, appreciate it very much ☺️ wish you have a great day ahead 🤩🤩🤩🤗
Great video thank you
This is a fantastic review, very detailed and particular. I am looking at buying a chromatic either a 270 or 270 Deluxe. I like the design and the ease of dismantling that the 270 Deluxe offers. The 270 construction (nails) is very much like a classic Hohner Marine Band diatonic and is the cheaper of the two for this reason. Sound wise, I do agree with one comment that the 270 has a darker sound. For me, it may the choice at this time, considering the type of music I want to use it for; blues , rock and jazzy type stuff.
Thank you so much for your support, I really hope that my video can help you make your make the right decision. Wish you have a wonderful day.
Hi. It’s a great review. But I regret buying 270. Should had ordered 270 deluxe. 270 square holed Hohner is a worst I purchased. So much air loss. Have to blow hard
You're awesome bro. What a depth review! Thanks a lot.
Thanks for your compliments, do subscribe and share 😊😊
Thanks for the detailed review. Very helpful indeed.
Very good! Excellent harmonic!
Thank you so much
Thanks for the video. I would like to put a word in for the Tenor Chromonica 270 in C, lovely melow notes to play a bit less aggressively.
great review! thank you!
Welcome , wish you have a nice day
Great job man, thanks for playing the full range for us. A sound comparison with the Discovery 48 or the Suzuki SCX-48 would be nice
Thanks for watching will plan to do that
The deluxe may be more focused but the 270 has a warmer, darker sound quality over the entire range.
Yes, as the size of the reeds and design of the comb also different it will have different character sound for both
Nice! Thanks Owen! 👍
Welcome, wish you have a wonderful time
Thanks Owen...
You are welcome
my aunt left me one of these. very nice harmonica
Great, you can enjoy to play it 😊😊😊
Nice review. I actually own both. But you should have included the Discovery 48. It's based on the Chromonica 270. It is not only beefier in size and weight, but the slide is zigzag, which I prefer over both shown in the video.
Yes, actually discovery 48 have it owns unique character
Here is a video of a guy playing the two: ruclips.net/video/lThgkPMg07c/видео.html
Very interesting comparison! 😊 Playing a instrument so small, makes the small differences big. Especially if you need to play for long periods of time.
Thank you, chromatic harmonica is very sensitive on every thing you change. No matter design or material. That's why so many combination out there for selection.
good information . thank
Thank you, please share and subscribe. Wish you have nice days.
Pl give me the link to purchase Hohner Super chromonica 270
Scale C ,12 holes,silver Colour
S.mukherjee
Hi Owen. Excellent presentation. I have two Hohner Chromonica,s 270 and one Hohner Chromonica 280 C
I much prefer to play the 270 (12 hole) than the 280 (16) hole. The 16 hole far too cumbersome for me.
I also prefer the square hole, however the round hole is more comfortable
The main thing I got from this is when I buy a new one I would definitely choose the DELUX model, because of the screw removal of the reed plates.
I am scared of removing the reed plates on my 270's for fear of damaging the cones.
Is there a tool you can suggest for removing nails safely .
Thanks again Owen, I got a lot out of it.
Hi, thanks for watching, there are so many ways to open up the nail, you can use a knife, cutter (bigger size ) flat screw driver or anything that are flat and hard. When you open it up, you need to pay attention on your hand, be gentle and slow to put in the cutter or knife in the gap that between the comb and reedplate. Do it slowly, it is not too difficult to open up the reedplate, as the wooden comb are male by pearwood. Try to do it on left side then only slowly move to middle and right side. On the right side there is a spring nail attached to the reedplate, you can pull up the whole reedplate slowly after you saw the gap between comb and reedplate are getting bigger. I wish you enjoy on this process.
Thanks for valuable info,where do get a solo tuned 10 hole diatonic
Hi, thank you, you can find the 10 hole solo tuned on the below link. Enjoy
ruclips.net/video/P6wXJRVwUnc/видео.html
I liked the Chromonica the most!
Yes, cheer!
Hi . Is the square hole sounds better than the round hole and is easier to play on square hole chromatic harmonica . .?
Thanks
The different are
Round holes = comfortable
Square holes = louder than round hole
Thank you very much .
The back ( inside) of the mouthpiece is extremely rough (10:17). The result is a lot of air loss. I sanded it completely smooth and then polished it. The improvement is noticeable in a quicker response and less fatigue.
Yes, the hard work that you did surely you will get a better result 😀😀
Does the deluxe mouth piece mount with wood screws like the 270?
Hi, yes
@@owenharmonica Thank very much for your quick response. I’ve played 270’s for years and the mouth piece is removed much more than the reed plates. Though I appreciate Hohner mounting the read plates with machine screws. I feel it’s short sighted and lazy to not include this with the mouth piece when producing the deluxe.
Sir, after hearing tune and about maintenance i like deluxe. So your precious video help me for choosing and will buying better harmonica...
So i lot's of thankful you...
And one request for you that give me here those link or video between different of SUZUKI SONGSTAR and HONER 270 DELUXE. Which is better...?
Please 🙏
Hi, thank you, I am about to do a video on scx Vs hohner deluxe. Haven't finish yet. Thank you
@@owenharmonica thanks sir ! And i want to discuss you personally about buying better harmonica and aluminium comb of deluxe 270. So please sir, can you give me your Whatsap number...
@@udaychavan.9445 Hi, if you have any question you can write email to me. owenharmonica@outlook.com thank you.
@@owenharmonica thank you sir..
Bonjour , ou le commander depuis la France s'il vous plais ?
Dear oven thank you so much for your extremely valuable rare , scientific analysis of 270 chromanica s,,,,I recently purchased a second hand 270 chromanica original one not the deluxe,,,and dismantled mouth plates for cleaning,,,my goodness,,,, comb is almost damaged near the mouth plate fixing nails and slider spring,,, somehow with the help of some glue and and great effort I managed to get it fixed,,,but I'm sure this is the last chance that I have to clean it removing mouth plate,,,,so please help me to get this solved,,,is there an economical plastic or metal comb to be purchased in market to replace this deteriorated comb,,,,if so will I have to drill new holes in the Reed plate,,,,also will I be able to remove present wooden comb from the Reed plates,,,removing rivets,,,,and also where to find new screws for fixing new comb to Reed plates,,,,, please help
Hi, you can search on google hohner 270 metal comb to get what you want. I think the reedplate must be drill hole in order to put screw on it.
Your video really helps. I have a 270 myself and play it for months and I find my lips get dry easily and can't practise further. Do you think it's because of the mouthpiece design or material of the instrument? Any other tips? Thanks.
Hi, this is very command issue that beginner will get dry on the lips when you play on the harmonica. That's why you can look closing on most of the good player video, whenever there is a rest gap between music note, we will use tongue to moist the lips to continue playing. This is also part of the technique need to be learn. Hope you can get it and enjoy when you play.
@@owenharmonica thanks so much
Owen, do you ever play other keys of the 270? Or do you stick with key of C no matter the key signature? And why not play the Super 64 instead? Curious about your thoughts on this. thanks. Great video by the way - the deluxe tone really came through, and the duet at the end was wonderful.
Hi, thanks for support and watching my video. I have came across to play different key before, as my hearing is fix C, and I get confusion when I play different key. For example when I play Bb key, in C major is draw note, but in Bb major is blow note, I will draw the note immediately when I hear Bb, so I prefer C major for myself. I do agree that using different key to play some of the songs are better in result. It depends on your choice. For 16 holes I do have super 64, 64x, hearing 16,n CBH 2016. I will also do a review on that.
@@owenharmonica Great thank you - a very practical answer. I will be looking forward to your review.
Where can I buy this in Sri Lanka and how much will it cost ?
Hi, I'm not sure in Sri Lanka, you may try online
Watching this but I can afford none. 🙂
Which model will better between two model according to your opinion??
It is depend on your need, personally i will choose 270 Deluxe because the reeds is longer and it can produce more deep n colourful tone but some of the player would like 270 as well, because it can play n control very easily on the sound as the reeds is short.
@@owenharmonica Thanks for your precious reply. Actually I'll play Indian classical and Bollywood music. Please suggest me a good model in this price range you can suggest me another brands if you want.
@@subhadipchakraborty1245 Hi you can browse on Hohner website to see which one you prefer. For the price range that you prefer. Thank you
awesome
Thank you
Sve ove hromatske su vrhunske dok su nove.Ja imam tri super chromonike 270 ali posle dve godine nisu ni blizu onom nivou kvaliteta zvuka iako ih nisam koristio intenzivno.Brzo se razstimaju a i ventili su im problematicni.Ja njih mogu koristiti a da daju korektan zvuk najduze manje od godinu dana.Cetvrtaste resetke su potpuno neprakticno uradjene livenjem metala sa izuzetno ostrim ivicama koje ostecuju krajeve usta i deo obraza.To je kod sviraca koji sviraju tehnikom blokade jezikom gde je harmonika mnogo dublje u ustima.Ne svira se tom tehnikom usnama nego celim ustima i jezikom.Ostre ivice doprinose i pored pranja i higijene usta i jezika, skidanju naslaga jezika na resetku i onda dalje u unutrasnjost na trske sto dovodi do njihove znatne blokade u sviranju.Zavrtnji koji drze resetku pricvrscenu za drveno telo harmonike su potpuno neodgovatajuci.Imaju isuvise sitne navoje kao za metal.Oni se jednostavno rasklimaju i ne drze dobro resetku koja onda propusta vazduh i harmonika skoro da ne moze svirati.Kada se svira na jedan ton kao sto to vecina vrhunskih umetnika radi kondenzacija je mala pa se ventili pogotovo sa unutrasnje strane manje lepe za plocu.Kod sviranja u dvoglasu ,sa akordima i istovremenim sviranjem ritmike i basova, duva se dosta vise rupa od jedne.Ja duvam u melodiji od jedne do cetiri pet rupa odjednom.Kondezacija je ogromna pogotovu u uslovima sviranja u prirodi tj. na otvorenom gde je tempetstura dosta niza od temperature pluca i onda dolazi da se ventili zalepe za plocu i ne otvaraju i sprecavaju dobijanje tona delimicno ili potpuno.Medjutim izgleda da proizvodjaci nemaju dovoljno informacija jer se oslanjaju na iskustva samo sviraca na jedan ton sto je pogresno.
Hi, I think most of the harmonica player had the similar issue like you do. the condensation are a challenge to the sticky valve. I had an experience where when I perform live in show, it will be very easy to get sticky valve. But with one exception, I use the same playing method while playing slow tune. In slow tune, is very easy to get sticky valve as holding long note in the same hole will very easy to contain water mist in the comb, reed and reedplate. It will end up sticky valve. I over come this issue with a new harmonica, where you didnt do practice on it or you may change the new reedplate while you perform. The best way is prepare 2 same harmonica to switch around while you had issue. The whole song I perform didnt had any sticky valve at all, although the water mist is still inside the comb and reedplate. So maintenance and hygiene become a very important part to avoid sticky valve. There is no 100% resolve on this sticky valve as our body naturally will had water mist while air blowing out.
Another way is cut shorter the valve in order to make the valve don't stick too much on the surface. It still can play and little scarify on the air leak. This can be work to pro long the playing time.
For the screw part. I think it is the basic setting, for wooden comb it always had a challenge that if you open the comb too much time, it will lead to air leak issue. So maybe plastic comb or metal comb is more easy for maintenance. Hope this help you. Cheer.
@@owenharmonica Tanks for very inportant informations.
@@milevasiljevic9312 you are welcome. sharing is caring. Wish you have a good day. 😄
Where can I get a spare mouth piece for a 270Delux so that I can retro fit my honer discovery 48 Thanks 👍
Hi, you can get it here
www.hohner-cshop.de/en/Harmonica/Chromatic-Models/Chromonica-Series/Chromonica-270-Deluxe/
DK did you find the mouthpiece from the Deluxe for Discovery. If so where can I get one. Thx. JP
How much cast
Hi which one you refer to?
Please compares cx12 with chinese wh12 golden butterfly copy
Hi, thanks for watching, sorry that I don't have wh 12
Please compaire between.....
Suzuki songstar v Hohner deluxe 270
And make a video....
Hi, definitely will make a comparison of both harmonica
The Suzuki Songstar? As far as I know, that model has been replaced by the Chromatix. I own all three models as well as the mentioned Hohner. IMO, the Suzuki beats the Hohner by a country mile.
@ yes, some player love this brand and some love others. Ultimately you enjoy it that's the most beautiful part.
Uau!!! Good job!!! So, Please, I would very much like you to tell me what is the most practical way to buy reed plates for Hohner super chromonica?
You can get it on the below link. www.hohner-cshop.de/en/Harmonica/
Plate nut(push),wood hole (deluxe),and weight 178gm.. This is original or fake?
Hi, all parts and weight as you see on video, nothing extra.
link of next video bro
Hi, thanks for watching & support, the video in progress, will post it this week.
Lovely...
Thank you, I guest you love it.
On seeing your video I could make my decision. Regards
@@aniloberoi that's great, the most important thing is get what you want and knowing what you buy. Then you could enjoy while you play the harmonica
初哥建議買什麼調
初学都是C 调，不建议用别的调性。
@@owenharmonica 謝謝，身處何方?我定位HK.我都想買270
不必客气，我在马来，香港有好多地方可以买到口琴，通利琴行都有。
@@owenharmonica 琴晚才了隻十孔和莱1896玩下
@@owenharmonica 在尖沙咀通利琴行
Я не розімію! яка кращя Hohner 270 Deluxe чи Chromonica 270!
How ret
The 270 bottom plate said MADE BY GERMANY, whilst 270 Deluxe doesn't...
Hi, thanks for your support and comment. As we know, in others industry like auto industry or toys industry , those international brand they have several production plant in the world, and last it will claim back the credit to where the original birth place of the brands. There are few angle that we can look at it. No doubt there are so many parts involve in the harmonica, and not all part are make in German. But the idea, and technology are from them, is just a mirror transfer of the making parts in the different locations. In my opinion, I don't mind where it makes, as long as the QC, quality and performance are tip top. Cheers
@@owenharmonica Thanks for taking time to reply.
@@ABC-uz2tw you are welcome
Sk mithu
East Top hamonicas offer much more quality
They both sound the exact same to me.
With headphones they sound so different
Actually it is hard to make different on different device. But you may try use headphone to see any improve.
Yes, absolutely
too much talk, just play it,,,
Thank you for your feedback. You may also have a look on the performance video. Cheer
Better than flied Lice
Both suck . Buy a seydel
You're awesome bro. What a depth review! Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much, I guess you love my video a lot and please subscribe and share. Thank you
Can you please recommend a store except Amazon to buy from? In USA please
@@ammarkhan5921 Hi, I'm in Asia and not familiar with Europe market maybe you can check on hohner website for USA dealer . Thank you