Gun Gripes Episode 66: The Caliber Debate
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"Like blowing out a birthday candle-they didn't even whimper."
Should make a t shirt with that quote
I’m not a gun snob in anyway but I have to admit my .357 gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside opposed to other rounds lol
@@iamthelizardking6239 .357 mag is old old cartridge but damn good :) you load it with some nice modern powder and some nice bullets you can crank it like cannon
@@iamthelizardking6239 Same here .Gotta use the right tool for the job.
Tea & Empire epic statement
In the famous words of Barry...”it’s hard to surround a feller who’s holding on to a barking .38”
Don't forget - " a 22 will kill any man on this planet tomorrow"
Also “If you have to say I have children and what if they get to the gun, you’re not responsible enough to have a kid or a firearm!”-RIP Mr Barry
A real Legend 🇺🇸
@@thebethlehem2852 Facts!! Barry was preaching the gospel 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@capricornman89wisdom that you can’t buy, only earn 👍
I gotta agree with ol Barry on this one 357 is still the ass kicker it was years ago ! We miss you Barry ! I still come on here to listen to Barry give good advice from beyond the grave ! I’m glad that he will always live on through these videos! God bless
As do I. I love coming around to hear him. I wish I would have gotten to meet him.
@@GhostKill88 I can't even legally own a gun, but I come here for Barry, and his avuncular spirit! It's always good to see him! L/R
@@ghostwriter1415 In Texas some convicted felons can keep a gun in their homes for self defense after a certain amount of time after release. That included a former neighbor and good friend.
R.I.P. Barry you will be missed, I always looked forward to his opinion!
That's for sure - he was the kind of guy that I would have loved to sit down with, have a few brewskies and talk guns -
when did this happen?
EZ to reload
Same, He was a great man
40u
Its just not the same without Barry,,,,,,,RIP Brother.!!
+ComeGetSome5297 Yes,,,,,he passed away a year or 2 ago,,,,very sad - great guy.!
+ComeGetSome5297 It was a heart attack during a divorce. Very sad. Another great guy brought down by a female.
Don't take that to heart, I don't know anything about it, other than what I just posted. I just know how hard and stressful divorces are, and am just projecting my own experiences.
+Rob Graham MGTOW preach it
Miss the old man!
No its not.
2:35
How Eric holds it together when Barry says "they're instant dead with a 357 magnum.". Haha. 🤣.
R.I.P Barry. Every guntuber today owes something to Barry.
The most effective self defense round is the one you've trained with enough to be effective as a shooter
Very true statement
3 Words...Practice, Practice, Practice!
the best caliber is the one you shoot the most accurately
I fully agree a shot in someone is always better than a shot in the wall
A .22 in the hand is worth 2 .45s in the safe.
no it means you should grow a pair and train more you dumbass
Stonewall Jackson there is an amount of common sense you could use when reading his comment dumbass. No shit A fucking .22LR is easier to shoot but be reasonable here, obviously it's not going to stop somebody in one or two or even three or even more than that.
Actually if you look at the statistics ALL the common pistol defense calibers took more than one shot to stop. So two .380's , 2 .22lr., 2 9mm's or 2 .45's what difference does it make? People shoot until the threat is "neutralized".
One caution about shooting incident statistics: Of course Each shooting situation is UTTERLY, completely (randomly) UNIQUE!
Here's some things that make each situation different:
I.E. How big was the assailant? How motivated or drugged up? How much fat vs muscle? where did the bullet enter? What angle did it travel? What organs did it hit?What was the assailants blood pressure? How hydrated was the assailant?
All these things affect the outcome of the shooting! The least of which is:"was the bullet .357" in diameter or .40" (.043" difference) in diameter...
Check it out yourself; this one is pretty good:
www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
"At the end of the day...getting shot is getting shot." LoL
So TRUE!
Ya have a choice.Ya gonna get shot. Do ya wanna be blown away (20mm, .700ne, .50bmg, .500mag) or do yez wanna be able to cry about it later (.32, .25, .22, .17).
Every time I rewatch this the look on Eric's face when Barry is talking about the .357 makes me crack up.
Timestamp?
@Pollo Frito Lazy, didn’t you watch the video
@@antonioangeconeb3196 Yeah, ret ard. What's that got to do with noting a timestamp so we know what look the OP is talking about? Put the pipe down, kid.
"it was like blowing out a candle, INSTANT DEATH." I laughed with Eric on that one.
.38 special and .357 magnum are my favorites
Ironically I can shoot those faster and more accurate than a 22 at a longer distance
.357 is a damn good round. My now ex-wife insisted on a GP100 for her defense gun when we were married. I suggested she carry a minimum of a 9mm with at least a 10-round capacity but she insisted on a .357 Magnum. She just likes revolvers better.
Same. Most of the time I’ve invested the range has been with these two cartridges. It’s what I prefer.
I think I I speak for a lot of gun owners we all buy a weapon or ammunition and hope we never have to use it in a defensive situation
Thank you for saying a lot and Not all owners
I’m personally really excited to kill a dumb retard that thinks it’s a good idea to break into my house
Any caliber will work on a sane person, problem is some people are crazy and on drugs. But if someone was shooting even a .22LR at me I would get the hell out of the way.
Same here but criminals aren’t in the same mindset. Adrenaline takes over
@hey it's pete Foolish
i say shot placement is the best stopping power
+Thomas Lyles Same Here
Practice, practice, practice.
Right! A 22 put in the melon is a show stopper.
That's where it's at. If you cant put the bullet in the right place, caliber is a moot point.
Enough rounds in the right place will definitely stop anyone
Barry will forever live on in these videos. Loved that guy growing up he was one of the guys like you and hickock45 who taught a young kid a lot about guns and history. Thanks
"you tell a .45 man that, and he'll think you're flyin' " - Barry. lol
He said lyen…neither here nor there though this was 4 years ago after all
I'm 65yrs old, I've reloaded since 1965, from 22-250 to 300 Weatherby, from 380acp to 44mag, and everything in between... The study he talked about is the truth... I've shot and reloaded them all and seen the damage they cause. I shoot a 40S&W 180gr, near max. It's a joy to shoot in the Beretta 96, I've found my pistol.... In a revolver, I love the 357mag in 125gr with a 6" 6shot Smith, Taurus, etc....
.45-70, the only government I trust!
Hahahaha I like that
I don't like tattoos but is I did I would get this across my forehead.
@@MrWhite-ub4wx Did you have a stroke? Are you ok?
45-70 is a hell of a good round. I have an old 1873 Trapdoor Springfield that fires black powder rounds and I love it. I can't decide whether I want to take that or my new AR out for opening day of deer season this year. I'd love to get a lever action 45-70 and load up some rounds comparable to an elephant rifle.
I'm going to steal that.
When I was a young kid shooting at a range for the first time, our range master told all the kids there to always respect a firearm regardless of caliber. He brought out a .45 and a .22 to use as examples, and asked the group which of the guns would "kill you more". Obviously the group of kids all decided that it would have to be the .45 that would kill you more, but he corrected us in explaining that a .22 will still kill you. He said that dead is dead and that the size of the hole wouldn't matter at that point. Needless to say we all respected our little .22 rifles a bit more after that. So anyone that goes around saying a 9mm isn't deadly is an idiot. All that matters is having a straight shooting and reliable gun that you're personally comfortable with and can use effectively.
I got the exact same lesson from my Boy Scout NRA instructor!
Except the question he asked wasn’t what you gave an answer to. He didn’t ask if the 22 would kill. You said he asked which one would kill you more. A 45 will kill you now, a 22 will kill you tomorrow or even longer.
Not saying I would want to take a shot from a 22 but just saying
Absolutely correct!! Well said!
I would much rather get shot a couple times from a 22 than take one hit from a 45
Eric: Wish you would make a playlist for all your fun gripes with Barry. I love his common sense about all things firearms!!!
I'd call the .40 S&W (my personal favorite) a nice compromise round between a 9mm and a .45ACP, but I don't feel like I'm losing anything. It's speedier than a .45ACP but heavier than a 9mm. It penetrates very well like a 9mm but I can carry more rounds than I can in my 1911. If there is a drawback, it's that a .40 S&W in a polymer pistol is a little too snappy for some to feel comfortable shooting where a 9mm or even a full steel 1911 is going to be a bit smoother. Just my two cents.
40 cal is more powerful than a 45acp
Bought my wife a .380, thinking it would be easier to handle for her, less recoil and all. It feels more violent than my .40 . Maybe because i didn't expect it, don't know.
@@hobbyhermit66 was it really small and had a polymer lower? My full size 5” barrel 1911 in 45 is my smoothest shooting gun recoil wise. I can hit steel with it from decent ranges and my CZ75 compact steel frame in 9mm is a really close second but then my smith and Wesson shield M&P 9 is pretty snappy cause it’s so light. Personally I would rather EDC a slightly heavier gun that I can shoot better with so the CZ75 compact is it.
@@hobbyhermit66 my brother had a little Sig 9mm and I wanted one but then I shot his and the recoil was obnoxious for what it was so I didn’t get one
Have to agree. The .40 S&W is my personal preference. A 9mm is to fast and a 45 ACP is not fast enough. Again personal experience personal preference. My carry is full frame sig P2022 in .40 S&W.
I carry a 40, but my favorite caliber is always going to be whatever the one I have on me when I need it.
RiP Barry, just found out you passed, only been watching recently but much thanks to you info and opinions expressed. I've learned a bunch
S&W .40 is a beautiful round
ok, black person
I like how you bring up that being shot with any caliber will run your day. a 22lr isn't the best self defense round but it will do the job great video!
+Frank Sletz Grandmas love .22.
A 22 will kill you tmrw. Lol. If healthcare services shut down though being shot by a 22 in the torso would definitely equal a slow and painful death. Something like 95% of bad guys after they got shot the first time no matter what the caliber so if you do have a 22 that’s probably your best hope. Although I do have a 22 handgun that I could dump 40 rounds into someone really quick and that may stop someone in their tracks cause I can hit a cole can from like 150’ with it! Lol
I love to watch these calibre debates 9mm vs .45. M16 vs Ak47. What I would say in conclusion is I live in the UK where you can't have any of them ( well you can but it's very difficult and pistols are almost unheard of unless they are long barrel with a tail sticking out the back) you certainly can't carry any of them and if you had a licence and even mentioned self defence they would take your licence/gun's and never let you have them again. If I had a choice of any of these calibres I would consider it an amazing freedom. Being able to buy and carry a .22 lr pistol as personal defence would be a victory for freedom. I would stop moaning about calibre and be happy you can own a gun. Saying that though I'm partial to that 357 magnum.
I feel bad for ya son, I got 99 problems and my rights ain't 1. Sorry, I had to. Lol
Sprotdude17 If you didn't know, it was a knee-jerk vote-gaining decision made after the Dunblane shootings in 1996. No doubt if it hadn't been election time, this "law" wouldn't have been passed.
As somebody born in 95, I've never had the privilege of owning or shooting any handguns, like ever. The carrying aspect doesn't phase me, however the owning/ability to use at a range aspect does.
I have to fly to a different fucking country just to have some fun with handguns/semi-auto anything above a .22lr
Was lucky to use an L85/LSW in my time as an army trainee, but that's about it.
The fact that there are American citizens (fools) actively trying to ban firearms they know nothing about sickens me as a law abiding brit who will never get the chance no matter how much I want to.
Fuck anti-gun activists man...
I love target shooting have done quite a lot, but the aspect of owning and carrying a gun is freedom. When the government tells you that you can't own a gun you have a totalitarian state all other freedoms will soon be forfeit.
james grocott Well, you have your agenda -- go to your government and get the law changed. I would say the same exact thing to Australians.
I maybe the only person in the UK who believes that owning a gun or the right to self defence should be an inalienable right. We do not have a constitution formulated by some of the best minds in history. We have been subjects (subjugated) by a monarchy for many hundreds of years as such most Brits would not have the slightest notion of being free despite what you may have seen in Robin hood. Most Brits like to be ruled and seem incapable of becoming vexed over anything other than football.
9mm for the hoods, 10mm for the woods 😎✌
KeeKee Killa lol that's ausome! people need to stop testing there bullets on ballistic gel and go out into the woods and hunt shit to find out what thier gun can and can't do. I know that everything I shoot with my 9mm takes more than one shot to kill and everything I shoot with my 45 dies instantly with one shot!
I would be interested in your results for 9mm HST. And you are right. SHOOT A DAMN HOG. Then tell me how good your pistol is!
Andrew Smith...That was beautiful😢...Bless You Homie
hahahah best comment ive seen in a while except for my own
Im gonna test my cz75 PCR on east texas wild boars
I have always loved 40 caliber. I have the hk usp compact 40 and have carried it for almost twenty years until recently when I finally retired it for something smaller in size and caliber. It’s still my home defense caliber. I use it and a g23 hidden around the house because I know the extra helps but never knew 96%. I know this video is older and 9mm has caught up but 96% back then for forty is probably better now.
Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.
A 22 in the head is better than a 45 in a roll of fat.
COWBOY CARPENTER Sir, you couldn't be more correct.
Shot placement is indeed important, but the reality of critical self defense shooting is that you are making a mistake to rely on accuracy. So a less than lethal shot from a .40 is more likely to stop the aggressive action than the same shot from a.380. So unless you're a sniper, or you know some Jedi mind control tricks to make the bad guy hold still while you shoot him, think about ballistics (stopping power) instead of just accuracy.
Yes I agree.
45 45 45
Man, Eric, that shit about your combat experience was touching, I've watched dozens of your videos and I know this one is old but I couldn't help but think that guys like you who move on after combat and have a good spirit are the salt of the earth. I know everyone says it but thanks for keeping us safe and maintaining a good positive afterwards, you're more of a man than me.
Just want to say that I love these videos. I'm kind of new to the gun world and have learned so much just by watching your channel. Thanks guys.
The study would also implicitly take shot placement into account, the only real caveat I would have is that it's a study of effectiveness with reasonably proficient shooters. It's very possible some calibers might perform differently overall in a study with inexperienced or less proficient shooters. That's how statistics work.
"If it works, its good; you cannot argue with success." -George S. Patton
If it makes deep holes in people, and can be judiciously applied, it will probably work.
If you aren't carrying a 50BMG handgun, you just don't have enough power.
lol -
helios5868 do you mean .50 Ae? Big difference between a .50Ae and a .50 bmg
500 mag
m8, I carry 50 megaton nuke so I have more power then your 50bmg
helios5868 yall are stupid. 700nitro FTW
if you get a 12 gauge you will never have any doubts on whether or not you have enough stopping power.
I prefer 30 rounds of .223 controlled expansion rounds
Then by capacity logic wouldn't a 50 capacity 5.7 ps90 be better?
Depends on the shot you're puttin through it .....birdshot just hurts ...the chance of it bein fatal is slim though
Jake Lee unless the guy yu shooting at is too far for that 😂😂😂
Jake - do you have a concealable 12 GA?
Never heard a gunshot victim say he was glad he got hit with. 9mm instead of a .45
I aint never seen a deer bitch because the 30-30 I shot him with wasn't as powerful as a 30.06 either. They always were just dead.
I have. Look up demolition ranches 9mm vs 45 video
@@jlsgarage872 awesome. Let me know when you would be willing to test the theory on yourself. 🤣
@@jg1007 🤣
Idk I've worked on alot of people in surgery walking their entire intestines and checking the body. I've seen 22lr and 9mm where they made alot of holes, bullet by a lung, major vessels grazed, even people shot 3-27(obviously 27 was the 22) times. Never operated on a person shot with a 40 or 45. So I am sure the people once they are in the recovery room are glad they were shot with 9 instead of a 45, especially the major vessel ones, that extra size and power would have been all that was need to cut it and bleed out in minutes
The problem is when your in a high stress situation good shot placement is tougher than people think.
Hallelujah!
Besides that, the video was supposed to be about caliber selection. Talking about shot placement is CHANGING THE SUBJECT. It's a good subject, but it's a different one.
I’m a ninja sword man myself. Seriously I think what ever caliber you can hit your target most successfully with is the one for you. Hitting a threat in the chest with a 32 ACP is a shit ton better than missing a threat with a 357 magnum.
It’s hard to believe this was 5 years ago, you guys are huge inspirations and very entertaining and informative
“like blowing out a birthday candle” 😂😂😂
Best round is the one you have on you to protect yourself.
Meatbyproducts given it has enough power to actually penetrate and cause damage. a 2mm handgun won't do to much good
@@tristanmyers897 It might, if the bullet is moving at 10,000fps.
@@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR I'm not sure we're talking about the same cartridge. But if we are then all I have to say is that velocity isn't everything
I'll take my .357 S&W Revolver......any day of the week
I second that ! 357 on my nightstand all night every night !
.357 mag 6 shot revolver for the house. 9mm glock 26 12+1 for the road.
Spin-C Throws Hands 9mm hollow point is good enough.
Gentlemen, thank you for your service. AND. thank you for a great video. This was some great information on
firearms ammo and terminal ballistics. Really great explanations. Thanks again. I love to come to your shop
sometime.
Ken
I just recently found the video about Barry's passing. I've been watching for a while and I know it;s been a while, but I still want to convey my deepest condolences to you and his family. From this old jarhead rest well Barry. Semper Fi.
i miss barry
.357 magnum in my Smith & Wesson 686. I carry it everyday. We happen to have open carry here in my state, so I don't have to try and hide it.
Thomas casey I wish I could carry my model 19 more often but it’s hot as shit in Arizona, and I’m not a fan of open carry. During the winter months I occasionally carry it though.
@@TheOVprodigy so you wish you could carry but you can but just don't want to? Kinda contradicting
I shouldn’t even respond, but I said I wish I could carry it more often, but it’s hot in Arizona, so 90% of the year I’m not wearing clothing that can conceal a k frame revolver.
Again, superb information well-presented from credible upstanding individuals. Well done.
We love you Barry! Your family must know you're still here with us everyone time someone watches these old videos.
I like the idea of no penetration ammunition. It's harder for physician to completely remove from the body, and safe for everyone involved in or around the altercation.
Rip Barry I'll always remember you and what I have learned from you over the years...😥😥♥️♥️♥️
Shot placement determines one shot stops.
and size of caliber makes up for error in shot placement. unless you do not panic in the least bit in a life or death situation, you're likely to miss exactly where you want to hit.
Shot placement is irrelevant in stressful situations ur hunting ur defending yourself in a shitty situation
I love watching these older gun gripes!
Been a few years since I binged gun gripes.
Barry may be gone, but y'all are still a wealth of knowledge.
Every caliber is lethal. End of question.
.001 cal subsonic...
+AIC SKS nah
.00001×10^-100 cal going at the speed of light
+AIC SKS its basically a beam of light, much deadly
much wow
But the questions is: Which caliber is more lethal? You idiot.
30 caliber rifles are the minimum for killing and stopping someone in their tracks
I know the video was to make me feel comfortable with carrying my 9mm but Barry made me want to go out and pick up a 357 today. lol
@yousef ahmed not really, they are two different rounds man.
I wish there was a gun shop in my town like Mosspawn. He really knows about his trade!
cant get enough of you guys and your channel my favorite gun channel
The best caliber of the one you have when you need it. 22lr if needed. Will also stop someone. Plus easier to stay on target than 45 long colt
I am a fan of the 22LR cartridge. As a veteran of a combat unit, it was my job to be an expert with the 5.56, 7.62, and 50BMG. But as a civilian, I have no need for long range shooting. It is overstated, but the 22LR is fun to shoot. It's very accurate under 100 yards and it's easy to place several rounds exactly where you want them, and to do so very quickly. There are limits to the 22LR, but for civilian duty, it's doubtful I'd encounter them.
kismetcapitan I loved what you had to say. you should say this louder so more people hear you though. :) peace
kismetcapitan I carry a Glock 42 which is 380 is perfect self defense round for me.
Exactly why I carry a 9mm. Little to no recoil which means more shots on target faster.
I think .22 magnum is a better round for self defense. Especially if you get the heavy projectile rounds so it doesn't kill your ears
@@MisterDoge my ears are the last thing I'll worry about in a self defense shooting tbh
thanks guys love the unbiased honest opinion. shot placement. is key.
Another great video love these old videos with Barry .
In ancient times, the bow and arrow were pretty effective at killing someone. No "wound channels" or expanding arrow heads. This isn't because a projectile is particularly powerful, but because the human body is extremely fragile. Any arrow or bullet penetrating into a vital organ will usually disrupt its delicate biomechanics (blood flow, nerve transmission, etc). The real question is where the projectile hits and what kind of damage it does.
Actually an arrow is much more lethal than a bullet. The whole arrow is like 500 grains it it typically will pass right through the deer or target. Have you seen the hunting tips with a 1" cross of razor blades??? What bullet expands THAT much?
This is very interesting stuff. I am getting a security job pretty soon and I'm looking for a new sidearm, right now I'm leaning towards the 45 ACP as my caliber choice due to the fact that if I didn't have any hollow points available I would feel confident enough with the ball ammo. There's nothin wrong with the 9 millimeter but there's one factor that was not mentioned and that is what if one shot is all you get? I'd much rather have 1 45 ACP bullet hit my would-be attacker over a 9 millimeter bullet regardless of shot placement. One of the biggest pluses for a 9 millimeter is you have more rounds in the gun but I think personally if you have to discharge your gun 17 or 18 times to stop a threat you really need to spend more time on the range.
After working armed security for years, generally you are issued a sidearm in whatever caliber the brass decides. If you need to purchase your own I have always been told "duty caliber" ie something the military or LEO carry. The vast majority of the companies unless you have a military contract will be 40s, so if your gonna get something I would start with that.
I can't come up with a scenario where I would only have one round. I have a magazine in my gun and my pocket for a reason. But the idea of a handgun is not to kill, just to get the bad guy to stop doing what made you feel the need to shoot said bad guy in the first place. If he stops after 1 round mission accomplished. If you literally only have one round, run.
+Taticallyfluffy Marine If I have to shoot someone, I'm not going to only shoot one shot to see if he stops.
Thank you for this video , As a new shooter I loved learning all this information .
It was like blowing out a birthday candle. Eric I saw that smile you were trying to hide when Barry said that. I thought that was hilarious. Lmao
I think this is your guys' best video.
I have two .32 acp pistols and use them for carry and home defense. They are dependable and accurate. Don't forget James Bond used one.
Emil...i am with you! .32 can make for a good defensive handgun. It's a throwback to another time. It was a very popular caliber. People are still made of the same flesh, bone, and blood. If it was ok then, why not today?
@@markedman3990 People are alot fatter now days lol...More blubber for that 32acp to get through lmao.
I carry .357 sig and it is a beast, plus with a barrel swap you can still shoot .40 s&w.
Thanks for saying, "shot placement". That is exactly the answer folks need to hear.
I love watching true crime shows, almost every time the person is killed by a 22
Because it's cheap to obtain. And shot placement is easier with less recoil. Doctors have said that because the entry wound is small and the rounds many times ricochet around, puncturing vital organs.... And they have no idea where to sew up the internal bleeding. Usually it won't incapacitate them, but rather take them out of the fight, and later on is when they end up dying.
How about the 32 cal. There are several sizes the magnum, long, acp it used to be the regular caliber for police in both the usa and europe
@POOR PIRANO
He asked about .32
I'd be comfortable with the .327 mag, other than that I would look at 32 as a last resort.
I love you guys. RIP Barry! Would love to stop by your shop if I'm ever in your area.
I'm new to the channel- you guys are great! Very informative! +1 subscriber!
the caliber isnt really the issue...ANY OF THE CALIBERS MENTIONED WILL DO THE JOB!!! so now it really boils down to what caliber you can shoot accurately, control recoil and follow up shots, and has a capacity suited to your needs and skill level...
The best caliber is any caliber because is better than no caliber. Right?
FilosofoCA not if you have a 50 bmg round and a glock
Well in that case, yes.
Unless the guy with the glock shoots first.
The best caliber is the one that consistently hits its mark.
dats rite, i wouldnt want to get shot by a 22 never mind 380, nobody volunteers
I enjoyed your presentation..... seems accurate to me.... shot placement is definitely important...... however if a person is not confident/cool under fire than it doesn’t matter what you carry 😊
that was awesome. thanks for your input guys.
I was shot point blank with a 410 federal defence hand gun load it was not a nice site I deflated my right lung and broke my rib I had a lot of internal bleeding trust me the whole shock wave thing is true it even messed up my hart. but I am still at it I love my shooting sport I still hunt and shooting targets
oh and I carrie a Smith and Wesson SD 40ve in 40 Sw I love that round I and jest a good shot with it I stick with what I shoot best
Kenneth Rowles sooo why the fuck were you shot in the first place???
Lol so that means you shot yourself and u wont stop shooting and putting others in danger
RH J... I guess you want to see pictures...
I got shot 8 times in the chest with 7.62×39
It would be nice to have a link to that study.
S&W 687 in 357 is an awesome firearm using it for a EDC is like strapping on a boat anchor. I’ll opt for my Sig 2022. Thanks Guys.
Great video, I also when it comes to carrying for edc I like the 9mm and I carried a 9mm for 10 years as a police officer and a 45 acp for 2 years. I'm retired now and my favorite is the 45 Colt and that's because I am into single action revolvers, but if I was still working as a police officer today I would still choose a 9mm.
Great video, very informative, thank you for another great video.
30-06 for me in bolt actions :)
I carry a walther ppq with trijicon night sights. (sweetest stock trigger on any polymer handgun) 15+1 and it'll be much more comfortable when I get a custom holster. In a high stress situation, I want more rounds, not less and that's why I choose 9mm - capacity. You're more likely to be attacked by multiple aggressors.. not just 1. I can get my PPQ out of my holster and accurately empty it center mass in a few seconds.
Your more likely to never being attached at all.
PeterDad60 You're* Be* and I'm assuming you meant "attacked?" And I hope I'm never attacked, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. My dad was a LEO for 40 years, did FBI academy training and private security, motorcades for politicians and I can tell you that no one knows how "likely" they are to be attacked. Ever had a friend murdered for their tip money while leaving a closing shift at a restaurant? Tell their family that "they weren't very likely to be attacked..." I'd like to see the look the give you. You're more likely to be killed by a pop machine than a shark, but if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, that shark might just kill you. The difference is, a recidivist criminal knows exactly what they're doing when they harm someone.
With a gun like that you've got to watch your P Ps and Qs...
Sorry, who could resist?
;>)
I have 9 mm .40 y 45 acp...all of them are great...I agree that you said I love this calibers...and I have 22 LR too...and I think is great too. Thanks for the video.
it all comes down to sufficient power, shot placement, and being comfortable
Great video. I carry a 9 and I can't tell you how many people say that they're 45 is so much better then you go to the range and they're over there missing left and right and I'm drilling the bullseye every time. 100% agree with you guys shot placement is key. Same with hunting rifles.. I don't care if you have a 300 ultra mag, if you can't consistently shoot good then it's worthless and the guy with the 243 that you made fun of is going home with all the meat
From personal experience, the .454in your hand feels like a cap gun and the .22lr in the perps hand looks like a 155howitzer.
Lol you're funny my friend😎🤣
You guys are great. You are doing a great public service. I do have one question: Is mixing your ammo in a handgun a no no? That is, FMJ and hollow point, or several different types of self defense ammo?
My CDC's are:
45ACP when I can dress to conceal it
380 & 32 Auto anytime....belt or pocket holsters
Thanks for the good channel & videos.
Peace .... Out ....Tucson
7.62x25 JHP in my M57 tokarev nasty combo
That's a hot ass round no doubt about it. I love my tokarev m57 too. But the velocity is a bit high and I'd be afraid of over penetration.
My tt33...
I agree with what Eric and Barry said about shot placement being the most important factor.
As far as the rest of it goes, it all boils down to personal preference.
I personally like the. 45 acp. I like the idea of that bigger slower moving projectile.
I do agree that with the 9 mm's lighter recoil it should be easier to make accurate hits with.
You guys are absolutely right couldn't have said it any better
Be great to see a video on the more common wildcat calibers that not everyone gets to see or even know about
I'd really like to see you guys compare the .357 Sig with the .357 magnum. I'd also like to see a comparison between the 10mm and the .41 magnum. I've heard both sets, respectively, are nearly equivalent to each other. I'd like to hear your opinion on the two. Also, I'm a 10mm/.357 Sig man all day long. I love a stout recoil.
have you tried shooting either cartridge for half a day?
Yes. I've shot both for extended periods with SD ammo and proper grips and in the case of magnums, shooting gloves. Is it fun?? Well that's relative, but I've walked on my arms with crutches for 30 years. I grew up shooting full bore magnums and steel frame revolvers and semi automatics. Full house 10mm loads can reach the very bottom 41 mag performance level. 357 Mag and Sig are pretty close, but there's really hot 357.
Both loads are harder on the gun.
different strokes for different folks i suppose
Whats happening to that scope above Barry's head? Have a light going out in the shop?
+Shawn Gates overhead fan
Looks like the reflection of an overhead fan.
Good watching back on old vids.
RIP Barry
I have them all but i usually stick with the 9mm and .38 for most of my edc with .45 & .40 sometimes in the mix. Depends on how i feel that day i guess. But for the "bump in the night" i always have my G20 10mm with a light/laser combo and an ar15.
I'm looking into getting my first firearm for self-defense and concealed carry, and I've been trying to research caliber and ammunition types (without much success considering my ignorance on the subject). My brother, who is former Army Infantry, refuses to use anything smaller than a .45, disdains 9mm, and has been unhelpful on the subject. I seriously considered picking up a 9mm pistol just to spite him, but wanted to be sure it would be functional.
This video was extremely helpful and educational and gave me a lot of context as to what I should look for and consider in ammunition types and caliber.
Thanks for the input, Eric. I hope you keep making accessible and informative videos.
RIP Barry. I'll miss hearing your practical advice and wry humor.
Let me echo what they said. Shot placement is most important. If it is your first firearm you want something you are comfortable with and can control. If you need to defend yourself you're going to be shaky, nervous, excited, your heart and head will be pounding and you will need to be able to control your weapon. Smaller calibers usually have less recoil and are easier to control. Besides, if they keep moving, you can always shoot them again. I'd recommend you try out a few. Try to find a range that will rent guns and ask one of the range guys if they have classes, or if you can come by some time and have them show you a few calibers. Most people that know about guns are usually very happy to help people out who honestly want to learn. Your brother is not you. If he wants to carry a .45, no probs, that's his business. If you are carrying for self-defense then you will be trusting your life to this gun, you want something right for you. It might just turn out to be .45, it might be a .32 or anything else in between.
Your brother is kind of correct but military ammunition is limited to FMJ ball ammo. I was a soldier 6 years and then a cop. All military ammo must be non expanding due to the Geneva convention. A 45 does not need to expand because it is already big. A 9mm needs a hollow point expanding bullet and then it performs very well. So in the military using non expanding ball ammo sure 45 will perform more reliably than 9mm. In civilian life you don't have to use FMJ ball ammo and a 9mm jacketed hollow-point will perform as well as a 45 and you will have a lighter weapon with less recoil and more ammunition in your magazine. So really go with what you like they are both good. I would go a 9mm or 40cal in a Glock because I carried one and it was a spot on weapon. Maybe there are other pistols as good but my department used Glocks and I can speak about it for that reason. 100% reliable over 15 years we had them. Maybe go to a range and try out a 45 and a 9mm to see what you like. I have to say that a light gun is better for self defence because you will not get sick of carrying it with you while a heavy steel 45 would annoy me. I carried the baby glock in 40cal as a detective and it was small light and hit hard. The same weapon would have been fine in 9mm with good ammo. Having a small light weapon with you is much better than a big frame heavy one you leave home because it is annoying to carry. I don't think amo capacity is very important because for self defence realistically you will only get off a few shots and it will be over. 9 rounds in the small glock is plenty. Hope this helps.
S&W .357 magnum with 3" barrel was my first. My wife can managed the .38 +Ps out to 20 yds in that now and I can managed the magnums in my S&W magnum in a 4" barrel out to 60 yds with a 4-6 inch grouping. It took a couple of years off and on at her family's farm, but we're both doing much better and focussing on rifles since we now have the 20 ga and 12 ga shotguns as well. Gotta start someplace... ;>D
Grahame Nicholson Not to sound like a douche, but is actually the Hague Conventions that forbids hollow point ammo from the military.
David Ramsey You are in fact correct. I pulled that out of my butt because I couldn't be bothered fact checking. I never get away with anything!
I have a .45 cal for home defense and looking into getting either a .40 or .45 compact for my conceal carry weapon. In reference to this so called, "caliber debate," there is no debate with me cause "caliber" is one's personal choice. Besides, I don't think that the bad guy attacking you is going to ask you; "Hey! That gun you are about to shoot me with; what caliber is it?"
I'd recommend the .40 brotha. The .40 is more powerful than the .45 & cheaper.
So Glad 2 hear abt the 40 cal round TY 4 info & agree 101+%
I love the 45 caliber hardball, because I love my 1911. Great channel guys!!!