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How Times Square Became A Giant Tourist Trap - Cheddar Explains
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- With its brightly lit billboards, costumed characters, and Broadway theater New York's Times Square is known as the crossroads of the world. In non-pandemic years, the square hosted 50 million tourists. But just 40 years ago Times Square was a very different place. It's streets were crime-ridden and featured adult theaters as the main source of entertainment. Cheddar explains how Times Square went from this to one of the top tourist attractions in the world.
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It’s known that you will never find a NYer in Times Square unless they have to work there. The area is avoided like the plague.
So the homeless aren’t NYers?
@@tennesseedogpack ya they aren't
@@tennesseedogpack nope they aren’t. They transplanted themselves here.
@@tennesseedogpack there are a lot of homeless in NYC that migrated from other states
@@tennesseedogpack NYC is very kind to homeless people, so we sadly tend to attract the lowlifes who don't go to work
You know you're in a tourist trap when Mickey Mouse and Iron Man harass people for photo money.
Yeah, what happened to the traditional drug deers and prostitutes ?
@@julianshepherd2038 they got pushed to the west side avenues (9th, 10th.)
Same with Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin.
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@@joermnyc so that’s what happens there. I always wondered. 🤔 haha
When I lived in the nyc suburbs in the late 80s and early 90s, my parents occasionally took us to a classical concert or a musical I was too young to appreciate and what I remember was those flashy signs I was too young to understand.
But I remember and understood the electronic stores that were always “going out of business”.
Their name was literally going out of business 😂
Only Cheddar can manage to make a video with the most non answer surface level info last over 8 minutes of pure boredom, keep up the work guys
Lmao💀
😂
Been really enjoying Cheddar videos at 1.5 speed. Speech still sounds normal and get info faster.
I like to keep it at 1.25, it sounds more natural. At 1.5 speed, she sounds like one of those as seen on tv ads when they describe side effects and warnings and stuff.
But what’s the good in getting info faster? Do you have plans within the 10 minutes of starting the video?
@@Marynicole830 if the info is good why wouldn’t you sit and enjoy at a normal speed?
Before I even read this comment, I changed the playback speed to 1.5x! She speaks SO slowly. I get that enunciating and clarity are important, but it was almost hard to pay attention at that speed lol
@@johnnysalami27 personally I have ADHD and my mind will wonder while I wait for the speaker to catch up after I've guessed what they are going to say or at least have an idea. Then I forget to tune back in. It's automatic and I don't mean to do it. Fast talkers are actually really realaxing to me because it keeps me enhanced without having to make a conscious effort.
Different people have different reasons but that's mine.
I always think of the shock on Steve Roger's face when he saw modern day new York for the first time.
😂😂😂😂
Hail hydra
Times Square was like that in his time too, billboards, and a programmable light board that showed the then equivalent to modern graphics. I think the big shock was realizing that he is alive and its been many years since he last saw the place, I mean it was close to 70 years earlier.
Nick Fury: At ease, soldier! Look, I'm sorry about that little show back there, but we thought it best to break it to you slowly.
Steve Rogers: Break what?
Nick Fury: You've been asleep, Cap. For almost 70 years.
[Steve is silent with shock]
Nick Fury: You gonna be okay?
Steve Rogers: Yeah. Yeah, I just... I had a date.
@@garyauyong5328 thanks for the direct quote I really needed to see that
When did billionaire Tony Stark need your $10 for a picture
Hey, Don Jr. is on Cameo and will wish you a happy birthday for $500. All the 'billionaires' are doing it now.
I had heard of the Naked Cowboy when I was younger, but I don’t remember all of those characters being around until like 2009. Spiderman chased my family down after taking a picture with him.
This video is just like Times square, non skipable commercials.
You need Adblock then.
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uBlock Origin is your friend.
and the narrator is sleepy , very boring narration
Yet another one too clueless to have discovered Adblock ten years ago.
“New York was a city where you could be frozen to death in the midst of a busy street and nobody would notice.”
Bob Dylan
I went to timesquare in november 2019, and man was it an underwelming experience. Small, dirty and quite frankly nothing really to do.
Times Square should be see as one of those places where just go to see the spectacle and get out... drunk costume wearers, overpriced and bland food, tourist trap museums, all that shove aside
@@FranciscoPerez-nr3vr But my point is that there is really nothing to see. You have the classic picture as seen in the thumbnail but that is about it.
@@St3v3NWL true
Honestly, driving and walking around the "hood" and other areas of New York sounds funner. Really makes me take in what living in New York feels like and learning about the common Yankee life
@@eggs2627 you absolutely do not want to walk around brooklyn hoods. If you're not from there don't go there; some people really take that motto seriously and if you look and sound like a mark you'll be tested.
Uhhhh this is a re-upload
Yes! We had an editorial error that needed to be addressed. This version is corrected.
@@cheddar 1 thanks for the clarification and 2 I can't believe you replied to me that's cool
They do that 😠
That makes sense, I was pretty sure I've already seen this video
@Anthony Chavez it's packed now. What's up with Florida?
I like tourist traps. Everyone is so down on them but there's always people there. I always try to get a t-shirt as a memento from somewhere fun wherever we go on vacation.
Exactly, I feel like tourist traps primarily only drive in people who are bad with money in the first place. If you stick to a budget then you don't have to worry about something being a tourist trap or not.
For some people that's what they want and I have no issue with it. I just find it less interesting to go to a new place and be bombarded with businesses ect that are the same as the place I am from.
I don't know when this video was made, but I was there 2 days ago and it is packed! maybe not back to normal, but most definitely not like the video showed. I would go as far as to say that maybe 70% back
Wait.. why was this re-uploaded?
This infomercial on Times Square leaves out the fact that New York City became one of the most expensive cities in the United States as Mayor Giuliani almost doubled the city's real estate taxes in eight years. Real estate developers had a field day. One, Harry Macklowe, illegally demolished a building near Times Square without shutting off the gas and electricity. Nothing happened to him, his company just paid a fine. Those sleazy movie theaters were on the way out, thanks to X-rated VHS tapes available everywhere. Criminals still stole airbags, car bumpers and cars while the police the NYPD went after double parkers and people driving 35 mph where the speed limit was 30 mph. The NYPD had patrol cars staked out on Queens Blvd. in the weeks before the 9/11 attack and ignored warnings about terrorists scoping out government bukdings in downtown Manhattan. Now classic 42nd Street theaters like the Selwyn were gutted and the Morosco and two other nearby Broadway theaters were torn down to make way for a high rise Marriott Hotel. Landmark buildings gone, replaced by Mickey Mouse.
I was there a few years back. Walked all around the area looking for the “square”. The next day someone corrected my understanding, so I had to go back to appreciate the actual sense of place.
I initially did the same. I walked down from central park and did not realize I had passed the square. Had to look up on the phone gps. If nothing is going on holiday wise it just looks like more of the same.
I can’t believe you totally skipped over the impact that MTV and TRL had on Times Square.
Is this video a re-upload? I have a feeling that I've already seen this video...
I have seen it before too
yea they deleted it for unknown reasons
Yup
"Bloomingdale Road" ≈ Wickquasgeck Trail
Wikipedia:
Broadway was originally the Wickquasgeck trail, carved into the brush of Manhattan by its Native American inhabitants. This trail originally snaked through swamps and rocks along the length of Manhattan Island.
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Anyone else getting some serious deja vu watching this?
The video was posted once before and then pulled down for some reason.
it's reposted, there were some editing error in the first video
Still waiting for them to tell me how it became a tourist trap....
No self respecting New Yorker purposely goes to Times Sqaure unless it's to the txts booth or they unfortunately work in the area.
Or theyre enlisting in the military
As much as the billboards look cool and all, I'd love to see the areas buildings without all that crap over the walls
Tourist trap? If Times Square is a tourist trap, why do so many tourists easily escape the area?
Seriously though, in almost any other city in the US, a Times Square like area, as it is now, would go a long way in defining that city. But the thing about Manhattan is that it’s saturated with tourist attractions/places of interests both high and low brow and everything in between. If you visit NYC, for the first time, you’ll be surprised, maybe even shocked, by how different one “touristy” area can be from the next.
So while Times Square may have been “Disneyfied,” Disneyfication hasn’t come close to defining the city. This is even more the case if you include the other four boroughs, though Staten Island, not so much (sorry S.I. you’re just too isolated and quite frankly, a lot of you don’t even liked to be lumped in with the rest of us).
Depending on how you define “tourist trap,” I would argue that Times Square didn’t become a tourist trap because it was always a tourist trap. What get’s lost when the history of Times Square in the late 60s to the early 90s is explored is that it wasn’t just porn theaters, peep shows hookers and pimps. There were a lot of big screen movie houses in the area that showed first run films (I first saw Star Wars and ALIEN there when they came out, as well as other big films. There were also a couple of big video game arcades, and then of course, there’s all the playhouses. You can argue that the playhouse are not touristy but the larger point is that the area as a whole was always a tourist destination.
I think it’s more accurate to think of the area as Vegas-y without the gambling than as Disneyfied. And really, Times Square was always going to become what it has become and I’m fine with that because as stated above, it’s just one of several tourist destinations in NYC, it just so happens to be the tackiest and that’s fine too.
PS. There is no single best pizza in NYC, but if you do visit, whatever you do, stay away from any pizzeria that has any variation of “Ray” in the name, because those mostly, though not always, suck. And for fucks sake, don’t come to NYC and eat national chain pizza. Also, Chicago style pizza may be awesome, I even like it on occasion, but who are you kidding? That shit’s a fucking casserole.
Facts
Agreed
Chicago Deep Dish is one of those tourist things. Chicagoans don't actually really eat it hardly ever. Maybe on a fun occasion like a graduation or birthday you'll go to Giordano's, Pizzeria Uno, or Pequod's but it's not usual. I'd say real Chicago pizza is Home Run Inn, La Villa, Aurelio's, and other similar shops. Tavern style thin crust pizza. It is traditional here to cut it in small squares. If you don't want to look like a tourist, you'll get that and avoid the deep dish.
@@KennyChesty chicago deep dish is also a suburbs thing. In the suburbs we have a ton of pizza places and while there are some that serve thin or deep dish there are many that serve both. The other thing is that while NY, St.Louis, Chicago thin pizza styles can be made quick deep dish cant so most of the pizza consuming is gonna be thin because people dont wanna wait 30 min for a pizza.
Thank you for acknowledging Mayor Dinkins in this! His development initiatives and plans to increase policing helped set the ball in motion for transforming NYC, but Mayor Giuliani gets all the credit because he actually had time to bring everything to fruition.
Times Square was great in the 1970s. I used to love walking through there as a kid.
I kinda like the sleaziness of the 70s and 80s.
Shout out to #TheDeuce! 🍒
When I was at NYU years ago, I remember the mayor saying he wanted to clean up Times Square and tho that same guy is now an international joke with zero honor he did change it, but I’m not sure it was a great idea in hindsight. It may have been ugly and full of strip shows, but at least it had character which it definitely doesn’t now. Times Square is now just advertising billboards on steroids and larger versions of the same shops you find in every depressing generic strip mall in the US. It’s one saving grace is that many of the best theaters are close to it, I’m not sure that’s enough to warrant a second visit though.
crime is not an acceptable character.
It didn’t have character then and it doesn’t have character now. Before it was just sex shops and crime - you can see naked women all over the internet now and crime is not desirable.
@@lilybaker732 Yeah, those businesses would have gone broke a decade later on their own. People also forget that New York is home to the UN and international consulates, Wall Street, etc and it was always going to be cleaned up. The NYPD is one of the world's largest armies and has anti-aircraft guns, there's secret service and feds everywhere, and mass surveillance. The cultural and socioeconomic direction the city is going is inevitable.
The world was less connected in the 70s and 80s, and with it changing ever since, NYC became a meeting point rather then just a melting pot, so it's expected to be clean. Even the organic culture has morphed into consumerism, and its inevitable that certain people are going to be priced out and others are going to come in.
This is a really interesting topic presented in a mundane, boring way. 😴😴😴
I have no idea why this video felt so boring, I had to quit a 3rd way through
@@akiyachef_5213 it’s her voice, it kind of seems like she’s trying to sound deep 😂
I sped it up by 1.25 so I finally can here the vid in an active way
I’m so glad I’m old enough to remember Times Square in the 1970’s. It was soooo much funner back then than it is today.
It's amusing that I think of Times Square as this wondrous place, when I used to live a skip away from San Francisco and drove over the Golden Gate Bridge a thousand times. It's so mundane to me. New Yorkers probably feel similarly about Times Square
Now my brain goes back to TV shows like Green Acres that mention Times Square (the one from the 1930s-1980s) as a positive for staying in NYC. Really curious why it was thrown in the theme song now.... and mentioned by Mrs. Douglas
I want to go there just to look at it. Just to say I've been there. I don't plan to spend any more than $100 there (which is for food and maybe a souvenir)
It is a must see at least once!
@@cheddar *No... It's not.*
Disney's arrival just changed one whore for another. The area is just as slimy and skeezy as it was before, only now it's money whores instead of sex whores.
At least with sex workers, you are well aware of the downside of taking part in their business.
i would go and spent 0 dollars... check mate
Meh. Buy your souvenirs down on Canal St and spend that 100 bucks on a meal down in the village, nolita or soho.
You don’t need to spend more than $5.50 for a subway ride there and back. But do it at least once. It might be a tourist trap, but it’s still a bucket list item. 😊
Fun fact: the original Times Square Subway station was recently obliterated when they upgraded the Times Square Shuttle station. The original subway ran from City Hall to Grand Central, then went across town to Times Square and up to Harlem under Broadway. When the lines were built uptown on Lexington and downtown on Broadway, they cut the crosstown rail connections and put in the Shuttle, though there was still a way to move trains out of there that involve dismantling a bridge over the northernmost track.
Just me turning volume up and down as the narration goes from quiet to super loud 🧐?
So was Dick Clark's new years rocking eve held in TS back when it was a red light district? Welcome to new years rocking eve live from the red light district in New York!
I was there last week... tons of people harassing you trying to make a few bucks. Made it rather unenjoyable.
I think I'd prefer the old Times Square
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Didn't I see this video like a week ago?
All ways watch this at 1.5 speed
RUclips with 2x speed is a pure drug.
I think for the benefit of locals, they should turn time square back to a sleazy crime ridden place
Yeah, let's hear it for the bad people
She makes it sound like NYC is still as clean and safe it was in the 2000's. Times Square area is getting bad again! Not the same as it was in 1995-2010.
As a kid who grew up in NYC in 70’s -90’s, Time Square was NOT dangerous if you knew how to act, simply because of the Thousands of ‘foolish’ tourists. And because of Broadway and Film theaters and. Playland, my family Would go to Times Square.. Real New Yorkers are Tough!
I’m a native New Yorker. One time I was showing a friend around the city and I explained, “We need to transfer subway stops at Times Square.” She said, “If we’re going to be in Times Square, then let’s just eat dinner there.” 🤦♀️ I had some further explaining to do. You transfer trains but you do NOT go above ground. Lol
ugh, dinner in Times Square. May as well warm up a Lean Cuisine and eat it in a busy intersection...
It is very impressing when seeing Times Square for the first time
Is this a reupload? I think the same video came out a couple months ago
the only reason i tried to go to times square every few years was to take photos of how it's evolved. i sadly wish i still had my photos before that m&m building. oh and before disney showed up too.
It’s so funny that this video appeared in my feed; I was in NYC less than a week ago and actually asked my travel partners, “How did Times Square get to be like this?” I guess Cheddar has the answer!
Your phone was listening to you.
I went there last week and it was nice to see
*Classic Cheddar, taking 8 minutes to explain something any normal video could do in under 2.* Well done!
To be honest, Time Square looked more appealing 30-40 years ago than it does now. It looked "real", not cheesy and fake like now.
I love your history of New York videos. Keep them coming! 😊
The Greatest City in the World
So EXPENSIVE to live in though.
Great Night life, great restaurants and GREAT Clubs.
This is more of the history of Times Square than explaining why it is a supposed "tourist trap". I first went there in the 70's and it was a must see for all of the billboards and TKTS. I don't think that makes it a tourist trap. JMO
Obviously not the point of the video but super cool to learn that Broadway was once a Native American trail.
this video answered so many questions I didn't even know I had 😩thank you so much
Now has all the charm and character of a Happy Meal.
I really enjoy time square… it may be a tourist trap but it’s a fun place to just be and look at all the people around you
less than 20 secs on Giuliani, nearly 2 min on COVID.
There’s a difference between a glitzy superficial tourist area and a tourist trap where you’re being conned and scammed. Times Square falls more into the former category.
And now? Less police, more crime. Bravo.
Times Square was deserted to the bone due to COVID-19. Some of NYC's saddest days during establishment. It is supposed to be the city that never sleeps. Without the virus, it would've been the world's most vigilant.
I grew up with the old Times Square. I saw the beginnings of Disnifcation and I didn't like it much. Times Square might have been cleaned up but it has lost its character. When visiting Times Square I don't want to see a theme park but that what exists. I just avoid the location.
I watched this because I enjoy history and I actually have been to Times Square but as a middle-aged introvert, there is nothing about Times Square that attracts me now. But great video!
Go there if you like to see lights. I thought it was overrated when I visited.
There's a reason why I, and most other New Yorkers don't set foot above ground there. I've lived within 10 blocks of it for 3 years but haven't been above ground there since 2017.
Times Square is my least favorite part of Manhattan. I avoid it as much as possible. They really need to restrict the costumed characters begging for money. It's annoying, nothing fun about it. How many Elmo's do we need? The only time I enjoy Times Square is during a blizzard. The bright lights reflecting off if the falling snow is pretty cool, plus hardly anyone is out. I used to work two blocks north of TS. it's congested with people who don't know where they are going and full of touristy kitsch. As bad as it was before it got cleaned up, I actually think I preferred it before.
you guys replaced this and still didn't fix the microphone sibilance problem...
No I can't stop hearing the high sibilance...
Right, de-essers exist and are easy to use lmao
Say what you may... But David and Rudy played a huge part in the clean up of NYC.
Let's hope history can repeat itself and we elect a great mayor that can reclaim NYC as one of the safest cities in America.
We really just need to make it cheaper.
Why do I feel like I have watched this video before
I’m a native New Yorker and I do love theater. Any time I have Broadway show tickets, there is that irony of: gotta go to Times Square. Literally no choice. Haha. I’m guessing people who work in the theater industry deal with that irony in a daily basis. Lol
As a NYC resident, I say Downtown Brooklyn is better than overrated Times Squares
I've seen this before. I think this was just reuploaded.
dont worry, america is BACK, those streets are packed right now
I went to Times Square in 1991, the last year it was edgy I guess. I would take the energy, grittiness and excitement of that Times Square any day over the tourist trap that exists now. Much more fun and exciting and way better memories.
I don't remember much but I was there in 1999 (pre-9/11) and wow it was different vibe compared to 2010 when I was there next..
Over. Freakin. Rated. Place. Crossroads of the World. Pleaaaaaaez. (Originally posted this 2 year ago, but I guess it got deleted. Oh, well. I still stand by it today)
Is this a re upload or a rip off of a vox explained video? I feel like i've seen this before
Now the U,S Government will give you the award for Journalism.
6:20. You mean to tell me that active policing decreases violent crime!? Someone tell that to the current mayor!
You missed a key part....Zoning not banning sex businesses cleaned up Time Square. Zoning laws required all sex businesses needed to be 100 yards apart. The court rejected outright bans on sex businesses but the city did have the right to zone different types of businesses in the area. Then Disney opened up the Disney Store in Times Square. Disney changed the reputation of Times Square.
Every single video from Cheddar with a female narrator has the same problem: vocal fry. WTF?!
No no no, you see, Times Square REALLY went into decline after the Flagship Toys R Us store was shut down.
Came here expecting a video on tourist scams
Me: proceeds to watch 8 minute history video
Hudson yards is for billionaires, visiting buisness people wanting to pay high hotel prices for a view, or holding expensive property as part of a property portfolio ( like London). Time square is for tourists, and actually for something interesting which are broadway shows. Aaan I’m adding shredded cheadder cheese to garnish my dinner. Thanks Cheddar
My wife insisted we visit NY and Times Square. A total (heavily polluted) hole and absolutely not somewhere I would recommend anywhere visited.
Times Square and NYC are going to be just fine.
Worked at 1585 Broadway for a while in 2004, on a 4-midnight shift. A really odd setting for an office job.
It's a weird place because there's so much happening, so much foot traffic, but even a toy store can't survive there.
I can’t wait to go back
went to NYC recently, gotta say the area seems to back to pre-2020 levels
Fk the mainstream media. Rudy is forever a hero in NYC. Dude saved NYC from becoming Detriot
if you ever consciously decide to eat at a restaurant in time square i dont feel bad for you
Time square is a giant ad turned into a tourist attraction
set this one to x1.25 speed people
"The next mayor, Rudy Giulani, implemented new policing tactics..." Nice way to put Guiliani's "broken windows" policy.
It worked, the crime reduction from the late 90s and 00s was unprecedented in NYC.
Personally, I don’t think NY’s mass incarceration rates of the 90s is anything to champion. It’s obvious that “just lock everyone up” did in fact “work”.
@@iTonic_ It stopped the crime wave NYC was riding on since the 70s, NYC was actually safe in the 00s. Unfortunately since the new cashless bail and 'reform' in criminal justice the crime rates are starting to increase, it won't be long until NYC is back at square one.
Hi there I'm here watching from Panama 🇵🇦
I CANNOT believe somebody ACTUALLY gave ANY credit to Mayor Dinkins for anything! 😲
So this shit was still going in 70 and 80, totally had its glow up later on.
Much better narration.
Passers-by not “passer-bys”