Great Players of the Past: Alexander Alekhine
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2023
- Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold discusses games of Alexander Alekhine as part of the Great Players of the Past series, including games in the Dutch Defense (A90) and the Queen’s Gambit Declined (D63). This lecture was recorded October 22, 2019, at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Atlanta (CCSCATL) in Roswell, Georgia.
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Bogoljubov, Efim vs. Alekhine, Alexander, Hastings (1922)
38:28
Alekhine, Alexander vs. Yates, Fred Dewhirst, London (1922)
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Hearing Karen make a joke in the style of Ben warmed my heart like the Grinch finding the meaning of Christmas
Karen discovering Yates’ middle name is one of de best things ever.
I gotta say, I assumed that "Dewhirst" was a joke that Ben had deliberately inserted into the PGN to see if anyone noticed. But no, it really is his name. (It'll be pronounced JEW-herst, like the town of Dewsbury close to where he was born but...)
Much like Kasparov, I base much of my play around Alekhine. That's why I never play sober
hah! nice!
it’s actually ridiculous u don’t use russian / slavic pronunciation of his name
@@bilyonarelifestile2226 haha despite my name and being a Dostoyevsky fan, I actually am American. So I'm not familiar with the Russian/ Baltic pronunciation
Tal approved
Joking aside, as a chess amateur, (at age 43)I spent a year analyzing Alekhine games deeply, and in my next two encounters with GMs classical OTB, I won both games. So, it is definitely worth it to learn from one of the Greatest.
P.S. I am just a CM who has less than 150 classical games played up to now, since I play rarely
These lectures on players from the past are phenomenal. Keep it up!
According to an interview with Jan Timman, Max Euwe's team paid for the hotel where the games were played to have an open bar so Alekhine had access to free drinks the whole time.
Alekhine should be on the list of "Great drinkers of the past".
Timman never said this. It is not even funny.
@dordiwesterlund2528 Perpetual chess podcast ep 336 19-21 mins. "You must take into account he had carte blanche in the Carlton Hotel, very clever move by the Euwe committee" -Jan Timman
Still waiting for the Great Players of the Present: Ginger GM.
Fred's ancient ancestors knew this game would happen, naming their family Dewhirst.
Alekhine had a cat named “Chess”. I bet you didn’t know that.
I thought it was CHECKERS
That fish Bogoljubow won consecutive Soviet championships in 1924 and 1925. Inducing a good player to play badly is the mark of a great player.
The Soviet Union wasn't what it was later cracked up to be in 1925. Bogolubov, like Larsen after him, and Janowski before him, was a terror to lesser lights, but didn't perform well against the best of the best, which is why he could never have been world champion.
Actually the reason why we never saw another Capablanca-Alekhine match was that when sending him the rematch offer, Capablanca incautiously demanded a change in the conditions of the London Agreement(for the match) and Alekhine found formal grounds to reject the offer. When Capablanca again sent him without a change in conditions, it was too late as Alekhine received a challenge from Efim Bogolujobow.
Tbf to Alekhine, if him, Lasker, and Capablanca were all playing in a tournament together, you weren't betting on Capablanca either. Lasker won almost every tournament he was in and never finished behind Capa until it was the mid 1930s. Lasker obviously lost the match badly in the Havana heat, but Lasker is really underappreciated
I’m looking forwards to some classic Alekhine slander
Takes effort to slander a nazi
@@zyaffee He wasn't nazi, he was nazi collaborate on occupied territory. He has never shown any nazi attitude before he was there, but quite opposite having and helping jewish friends etc. Although it's not good, it's easy to judge from safety of your home, most people on occupied territories were in such position in some way. I doubt you or any person judging him would act any better have you been put in his position, and would nobly die for your views.
Also the reason why he "wrote" anti-semetic papers was because his wife, Grace Wishart being an American during WW2 in france(occupied by germany) was threatened with arrest. In an effort to save his wife, he "wrote" anti semetic papers(he didn't write them, his name was used to write it).
Don't mind this piece of 💩He dares to disrespect Alekhine, he is barely a GM 2400, he lost all the tournaments last year and also 2021. How can you even take him seriously?
Nonsense.
@@dordiwesterlund2528 This information was present in a book made on him.
Wasnt prepared for spandau ballet in a chess lecture
True
I also have a tough time believing Alekhine stopped drinking for just the match because he would have been feeling...really not well going through the withdrawal for the first several rounds. I am playing poorly just because of cigarette withdrawal and i cannot imagine having to play WORLD CLASS chess with alcohol withdrawal
There are no photographs of Alekhine smoking during the second match but there are in the first. Also his play was much improved so he must have cut back even if he hadn't given it up completely. Some biographies claim that Euwe offered to postpone some of the first match games because Alekhine was obviously intoxicated. The subsequent poor play is nowhere to be seen in the second match which Alekhine won easily.
@@jameshogan6142 do buy that he cut back. When I was a kid our family friend who I still see sometimes today was a guy who was a full-blown alcoholic like Alekhine
This guy drank a lot less at times, but when he did cut down he would drink when he first woke up, and a little bit at meals, to make sure he didn't get the shakes or anything like that
I'm a huuuuge detractor of Alekhine. The reason, of course, is I heard GM Finegold is a huge detractor of him. Go Morphy!
Another entertaining lecture. I did get a few of the references too...
He is the greatest player of all time, period.
No he isn't, Baldrick. Ellipsis.
Alekhein must be honored to be lectured on by him too.
he could play blindfold, I think exceptional,the man and the chess player in that order,He is possibly the,greatest player. ever.
I am watching this in the future.
Ben is on fire
go Ben!
10:19 One has to say that "Bogoljubov" means "beloved by God" in Russian, so his famous saying is actually more of a silly pun that how it sounds in English today :)
Is it not more to the effect of "the son of one who loves god"?
i would like to sponsor a great players of the past lecture, what are the costs and to witch email schould i adress my reqeust?
Alekine is the greatest of all time
I Think there was selective memory with the Capablanca vs Alekhine match. Did not Capablanca set any challege match with stipulation that were e tremey hard to aquire? Prize money had to be found by the challegenger etc) just like Lasker did to Capablanca.
I do believe I read Alekhine tried once before to meet Capablanca's stipulations and Capablanca rejected it.
the prize money found by Alekhine (through a doner) when Capablanca agreed to the match Alekhine was considered an inferior opponent (so calling out Alekhine for taking on inferior opponets is being hypocritical when it comes to the facts
Alekhine didn't steal the match..He beat Capablanca 6-3 That is hardly swindling Capablanca.
If Alekhine was such a weak player, how did that happen?
Last, Alekhine after did not run from Capablanca after. HE Gave Capablanca the same match stipulations as Capablanca gave him. Capablanca could not raise the funds.
This is all known. KARMA came back on Capablanca, refusing to play for the title, hiding behind extremely hard to meet stipulations. .. a challenger (who he thought he could beat... came up with the prize money and agreed to terms)
Then disaster happens, he lost and spent the rest of his career career try to amass the fund's need for a re- match
Of course, Sophie's Choice is a work of fiction.
LOL you should lecture on alireza vs that 1600 he played in the open tournament in Rouen, to show the smack down
Chessbase names the city twice because the tournament is called "London" and it was played in London. So by analogy with, e.g., "Tata Steel, Wijk aan Zee", this is "London, London". Technically, the PGN header has entries [Event "London"] and [Site "London, UK"]. I suppose Chessbase could omit one of them if they're the same.
Chekov's favorite chess player.
You can almost feel Ben Finegold lived in Europe for many years 👍
Dewhirst is not a name you want to have if you're competing in any field lol
Well he did beat Capablanca a couple of times in 1927 didn't he?
Hi Mr Finegold, Just wondering why white did not play Nd6 at 42:12. Thank you so much!
...Qa5+ unpins the bishop so it is then free to take the en prise knight
I read somewhere that Capablanca did the same to Alekhine. Once you became a world champion, you could dictate the terms of the next match. I also read that Capa was never the same after he lost his title to Alekhine.
What does that mean "never the same"? If you mean he was never champion again, that's true.
Capablanca got what he deserved.
@@Eliza-yd7fi Is that your final guess?
Beast .
So how does one cheat in chess?
Back when Ben still had brown hair
Harsh
Truth hurts
If the Canadian grandmaster was called Kevin Spaghetti, wouldn't he have lived in Italy?
magnus is drawing his classical games in Norway Chess 2023 too and winning only armageddon games.......!
curious how you'll treat him😂
❤
not enough "He's DeWhirst" jokes.
My 5 yr old son has made the outrageous accusation that a fart occurred at 5:38, I am trying to disavow him of such slander
Alekhine is playing the double dutch vodka.
My biggest flex is Alexander Alekhine is my relative. I think grand grandpa.
Do you play the alekhine defense?
He was not that much of an alcoholic, I mean he only drank when he was awake
Poor guy bogoljubov. Gettin shit on so much by ben lol
34:30 lmao
OK, raise your hand if you thought "Dewhirst" was a joke that Ben inserted into the PGN to see if anyone noticed... Turns out it's real, though it's not pronounced "de worst". It'd be JOO-herst: most British accents pronounce dew like "Jew", rather than as "doo" or "dyoo". Yates was actually born near the town of Dewsbury in Yorkshire -- JOOZ-b'ry.
During Magnus's 125-game unbeaten streak (mostly against super-GMs) he won 42 games with 83 draws -- an INSANELY high win rate of 34%. So pull up your skirt, Ben. Your bias is showing.
Alekhine remained my favourite player untill i learn his end carrer which is less glorious (as my eternal hero not only of teenager :Indiana Jones who face the evil with Nice moustache and beat him!!!go indy!!)
Greatest game ever according to Irving Chernev
Alekhine losing the title because he drank too much is just one of those chess excuses. People who knew him thought that Alekhine drank no more in 1935 than he had at any other time.
Euwe himself, in Chess Life & Review in 1978 said that people thought Alekhine was drunk even when he wasn't, because he didn't like to wear his glasses, and his walk was unsteady without them.
The truth is just that Alekhine badly underestimated Euwe. Euwe was much in demand as a match opponent in those days because he always drew or lost. But somewhere along the line, Euwe improved without anyone noticing. Euwe's results were actually superior to Alekhine's all through his title reign. Alekhine, meanwhile, didn't take the match seriously, and was only there for the paycheck. When he took the 3 point lead, he must have really figured that this was over, and went on automatic pilot until it was too late.
It's time to get schwifty.
In an idéal world,chess players should do the best they are made...playing chess and politics,religions are out of the subject here...
0:24 Unfortunately? You sob...
@ 4:51 : "So eey um the official cause of death is he choked on a piece of meat ... so ... all right then i could make some South Park jokes.,,,," Stop Right There !!! MR , that was your perfect Segway to just say to the chess world : "so just {Go Vegan}!! , so you don't also end up choking on a piece of meat , like he did !!!" .
I was looking forward to hearing some new information on my favourite chess player but I quickly realised that I knew more about Alekhine than the so called expert. I only want to listen to people that really are an authority on the subject..
Well, clearly Finegold isn't.
Please re-post this video with just the analysis and all of Ben's joke explanations cut. Video will be about 15 minutes shorter
Nice unbiased Jewish criticism.
Have I told you lately that I love... these lectures? ❤♟🍀
I Think there was selective memory with the Capablanca vs Alekhine match. Did not Capablanca set any challege match with stipulation that were e tremey hard to aquire? Prize money had to be found by the challegenger etc) just like Lasker did to Capablanca.
I do believe I read Alekhine tried once before to meet Capablanca's stipulations and Capablanca rejected it.
the prize money found by Alekhine (through a doner) when Capablanca agreed to the match Alekhine was considered an inferior opponent (so calling out Alekhine for taking on inferior opponets is being hypocritical when it comes to the facts
Alekhine didn't steal the match..He beat Capablanca 6-3 That is hardly swindling Capablanca.
If Alekhine was such a weak player, how did that happen?
Last, Alekhine after did not run from Capablanca after. HE Gave Capablanca the same match stipulations as Capablanca gave him. Capablanca could not raise the funds.
This is all known. KARMA came back on Capablanca, refusing to play for the title, hiding behind extremely hard to meet stipulations. .. a challenger (who he thought he could beat... came up with the prize money and agreed to terms)
Then disaster happens, he lost and spent the rest of his career career try to amass the fund's need for a re- match