⚡⚡TIMESTAMPS ⚡⚡ 00:01 - Intro (Paula Patton's 🐔🍗) 09:01 - Themis' Initial Commentary 17:50 - 02:01:32 - Dr. Umar Johnson's Response 36:24 - 39:54 - Grasping at straws... 02:01:33 - Caller, Me Not Me's Commentary 02:06:33 - Commentary from Deeann 02:16:29 - Open Panel Discussion, Pt 1 02:57:04 - A Conversation with Mello 03:10:07 - Should Men Lead Their Communities? 03:18:18 - Open Panel Discussion, Pt 2 04:02:46 - After Show (All Men's Panel) *What were some of your favorite moments, or moments that stood out to you? Put it down in the comments!* ⬇️⬇️⬇️ THANKS FOR WATCHING!! LIKE 👍 SHARE & SUBSCRIBE ✅
Just listening to all the all male part of the show made my skin crawl. BW remove yourself, your daughters, and females friends you have AWAY. The only advantage I see, is that they're not smart enough to hide their pathology.
I had a Dr. Johnson presentation previously. He gave Black women limited options: marry Black, single mother or being a sister wife. Well, I did marry Black and was in a toxic relationship. Since the divorce, I was single for over 20 years and NO black man sought me. But a white man did and we married. No one should intimidate a Black woman to limit her ability to find and be loved.
Exactly… to your point of NO black men seeking you out… BW cannot marry BM who don’t want to marry BW (alot of them, on the basis that she is black vs non-black)
@@rf3575nd YOUR point is? That BW have weeded out (albeit involuntary) low-quality men, marriage with whom statistically and empirically yields a loss of wealth and health? Let BM keep on not wanting BW. Taking Ws on that.
There are 3 questions I always ask blk people that I never get the response to: 1. What are bw meant to do if their options are so scarce in their own community? Even knowing what we know about how it comes about. 2. Who is supposed to financially support Blk children if their fathers don't want to pay child support and want to contribute in "other ways"? 3. What do bm do that makes them lovable since I can name so many reasons why Bw are lovable? (I have had Bw give answers to this. NEVER bm... and I have asked them in every space, and they never respond. They just tell me I h8 them. Which I don't. I wish I did. But I don't. It's worse because I don't respect them AT ALL).
@@Xara_K1 I've asked bm similar questions as well: "what do bm do collectively that deserves respect?" and I ask them to prove that most bm love bw since they always default to that. They don't answer the first question, they always default to bringing up "zaddy", so pathetic. When I press them about it, they cite things from 100 or even a thousand yrs ago that have nothing to do with them today, and I destroy that too. For the second question, when I destroy their weak, inaccurate talking points of: "80+% of bm marry bw", they go deep into denial. It really is incredibly pathetic. They just want to live in a fantasy.
So he just said even if BM are not loyal to her, it's still the BW responsibility to uphold the community?? So we are the leaders now! So where does submission come into play?? Looks like BM should be submitting!!! 🤷🏾♀️
Child they are submitting! Handing over thier fortunes to women of no color. Literally white judges are hitting them with extreme child support and divide divorce settlements
It's called delusion. When men blame everyone and everything for all their failures, you know it's over. How can men expect the women to lead, provide 50/50, march for them but at the same time also submit to nothing they offer?
How dare Dr. Umar tell me as a black mother that I am supposed to sacrifice my daughters to this struggle love dynamic for some loyalty to the black race. I am not going to have my daughters suffering just to be with a black man. Dr. Umar has no right to demand anything from black women. He conveniently ignores single motherhood, the high rates of DV, and black femicide. I would like to see Dr. Umar debate Ralph Richard Banks. B/c Dr. Umar can't debunk the facts of the book. And for the record, Dr. Umar has left two black women to be single mothers and he doesn't pay child support.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 yessss. We need a debate based on FACTS and not emotions. Maybe then would these kangs start to value education and no longer remain ignorant. Ignorance goes hand in hand with high DV, SA, homicide rates, etc.
It's a profound disgrace that a woke black man who's intelligent like him refuses to hold black men accountable. He is not married either. So, he is proving the Dr. right. The delusion is REAL.
BW if you’re fed up with the double talk, “black power” “stick together” BS from BM who’ve had ample time to get their sh*t together but refuse to… Get you degree(s), intellect, career, money and exit stage left 🚪. The tornado of dust from this “Dr.” is unsettling.
This live was so entertaining. Themis came with the receipts. That moment dr.umar realized that the author's wife was black will forever live in my head rent free. I was dying along with Themis at that genuine reaction.
What I’ve noticed is that the book is about BW MARRYING WM but yet he talks about sex between them by mentioning letting the demon inside them or whatever. He proceeded to say real African men only DATES BW. There is a difference between sex, dating and marriage. That’s the problem with a lot of BM. Women don’t want to just date or just sex on them their whole life. Women want more and the author is giving another alternative. He proved his point with that one.
Exactly he basically said black women are sex objects. I don't find Dr.Umar to be an intelligent man. I find him to be a person who can regurgitate whatever information he reads and then guilt trip black women to settle for dust.If he was truly for the community, he would have lead by example. Be married and call out the bs amongst bm not pulling their weight.
I have great example why BW have to go into their masculine: my mom was married to my dad for 7 years. Had my brother, worked a job and provided. Then 7 years hit, he becomes an alcoholic, can't keep a job, so he couldn't provide and then started beating my mom. I came along in that 7th year of marriage. And my mom had to divorce my dad. She was not educated and had to work factory jobs that under paid. So she went from Feminine to Masculine in order to provide, nurture, protect us and doing all this by herself. Then fast forward comes in my step dad. Great provider, she didn't have to work... he stepped up to the plate of manhood, where my father failed in. He was what my father couldn't or wouldn't want to be. Like I say, BM want BW to be soft and pillowy but she is fighting each day to survive and to provide for her family. No one is going into battle in all Pink and Soft! That's an Oxymoron!!
@@keyfield8967 🤦🏾♀️ you can’t even string along an intelligent conversation to support whatever point you’re attempting to make. You’re simply supporting the available data.
Another problem w/ the “Black woman is God” shtick is it strips away our humanity. We’re just people. We want love and companionship like everyone does. This invisible crown hoteps like Umar bestow on us is one of loneliness, stress, and suffering. I gave up on religion but aren’t you supposed to love your gods?
Exactly! I don't even like them casually calling us "queen". I've never read or heard about a queen that was unprotected by the collective of the men in her community. NEVER.
@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 right. Who is making podcasts to insult their queen? We’re b!tches, hoes, nightriders, etc when we’re doing their bidding but when we’re exploring our romantic options we’re queens who deserve nothing but the (black male) best. Sure, Jan
It's not really a shtick. It's based on African spirituality. Kemet spirituality. It's not a religion exactly. The Gods are within us basically. You have to become in tune with it though. Material doesn't make a queen, it's the soul that does. Queens don't give up on their people which is the whole point of the Queen King thing. It's all a matter of if you'll rise up as one or succumb under the pressure. There will always be those who hate and love you. That's pretty much common sense. You'll find hate no matter where you go. Its a fact of life. If everyone likes you, then something definitely isn't right.
@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 That's because your definition of Queen is based off fairy tales. The leaders of countries today are bombed with hate speech all the time and so were the kings and queens in that era.
The fact that very few men that hop on this panel and have the range that women have along with Themis is PROVING DR. BANKS' POINT! WE ARE INCOMPATIBLE!
@@CrispyMakiDumplings regardless. they dont seem concerned with any discourse on any platform about the state of the black family. where ever those unicorns are. A lot of men with an education or good career in their arsenal, who seem to possess the "range," lack EQ (emotional intelligence) and empathy...
Most American bw are to smart for the average American bm. Most bm are ONLY fluent in English Ebonics. Can’t even string a proper English sentence to save there lives. But didn’t we all get the same English lessons while in school???
BW have to maintain femininity (which is being delicate, soft and demure) whilst being the single parent, having to protect, provide and nurture her offspring! Get out of here. That BM expects too much from BW. Women become Feminine when she is place in an environment that allows her too i.e married to a man that is nurturing her mentality, spirituality and in all aspects of her life. Where she is not putting on armor and marching to the battle lines. When your man or men of your community are doing the footwork and protecting, that is when she flourishes. She exudes her divine Feminine. You can't be soft and pink in the midst of battle.
The one caller mentioned that even her dad said why isn't she dating the Non Black men that want to pursue, is so true. I'm married to a Black man and he also told our daughters to not limit their dating options. My daughter was asked in her Jr year at HS to prom, by a white young man and she turned him down. Her dad said why? She was like coz his White. Her father told her, do not limit yourself, even if it is as simple as a prom date, based on race. He went further to let bot our girls know, he does not care who they date, partner or marry. As long as he provides, protects, has your mental health in check, doesn't cheat and has core Values that uphold family. And their dad is an educated man that completed college. And his lense and view is the polar opposite from what Umar subscribes to...
It's true, even here in Afrika, we are getting rid of the need for black men, I urged my sisters to marry white, their mixed children may not keep Afrikan traditions of old useless black men, but that is good. The black man's existence is coming to an end. Even as a black man, I can see our end. I can only work with non black men in business. Afrika is returning to the hands of white men who are responsible with the land.
Your daughter’s reaction to the prom request goes to show the “social cues” we BW face at an early age to remain race loyal. Your husband is rare indeed. My father was cool with my brother dating non black girls but bristled when me and my sister dated non black men! 😂 his hypocrisy was glaring.
Your husband is right and is exhibiting true love and protection. It's unfair to tell our babies to limit their options. I've been telling my nieces to ignore everything I used to tell them, and to date whom they find interesting regardless of race ever since I realized I was basically telling them to not seek healthy relationships where they find them. Life is too short and bw don't dictate marriage so it's unfair to expect them to rely on a group of men with the lowest rate of marriage
"Hes White!" Thats a reason To Leap in quicksand and wait for a Rope? (A Savior) Good her Father corrected that thinking! Is she doesnt Learn SHE WILL!....
You dummy - how many wyte families scream, cringe, and PERMANENTLY disown their own blood relatives over IR stuff? Bunch of foreign mammies in the US now- what island your family flee from?...pathetic but "you people" will learn the hard way...
I’ve only given black men a chance, and it’s always a sorry ending. Even in the past 3 years I really tried to be with two different men, the one I found out was living with his son’s mother😒. The other was someone from church, and he completely ghosted me without any explanation 😭👻 The only black men I have any loyalty to now is my son and my brother, Dr Umar is out of his chakra addled mind if he thinks I’m going to sit here twiddling my thumbs, waiting out of some misguided loyalty to a group of men that have consistently disrespected me.
@@googleuser7454 I agree their is a percentage of Black people that are not ready for a relationship but I wouldn’t discount all Black women because of a few. It goes both ways.
@TONY lol no one forced you to comment on my thread. You "get ta steppin" if you need the interaction to end...or maybe actually have a conversation on the topic. Whatever you choose is up to you.
@TONY ok. Comment on lol. I'm glad you're enjoying yourself. Happy is the life of the easily pleased. You can never get bored. I swear some parents shouldn't let their kids play with their phones. Have fun dear.
I'm tired of men talking about feminine energy when they have NO IDEA on what it is. If you don't know about Dark Feminine energy, don't talk to me 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾 feminine does NOT mean docile or passive... If they want to judge is on feminine energy, let's judge them on masculine energy. What have they build, created, fought for, or provided that is still of benefit to the so called black community in 2022? Where do you think you stand?
Not to mentioned how many times they've been conquered. If they were honest, instead of spending hours and hours filibustering on podcasts and RUclips channels they would admit the truth....they don't know how to lead, perhaps some men are just meant to. All evidence suggests they can't do it.
@Belle see that's the thing it's not bad, it literally just means taking the negative situations out of life and rebirthing it into something different. I used to think that way too. What this current divestment movement and bwe movement is is predicated on dark femininity; dismantling old ways of thinking that don't serve Us in order to usher in a new
@Belle dark energy is as harmless as a shadow unless you ignore it in yourself and pretend you don’t possess it. Just like all objects and people have the capacity to cast a shadow in the sun, all humans possess dark energy that can be tapped into to get shit done. People who pretend like they don’t have it end up being ruled by it. Dark feminine energy utilization means you know how to leverage life on your terms, because you know that nothing or no one is perfect, therefore it’s your duty to be strategic and play to win. All women possess dark feminine energy. Crafty women tap into it and get what they want out of life.
This analysis by Dr. Umar Johnson is a perfect example of writing a book report using the synopsis on the back cover. He didn't even open the book to read the "About the author".
That’s why I believes he bought a paper degree online. Somebody with a doctorate would know better than to do what Dr Umar did to address RRB’s talking points.
Oh my god - I just had the most horrifying ah-ha moment about hoteps and “black Christianity”. Black men give woman the title “goddess” and “queen” as to have the ability to bestow GOD ORDAINED RESPONSIBILITY and LIABILITY to the black woman. They do not believe we should be protected, revered, or sovereign like Gods…no, we have to carry the entire weight of the continent of African on our shoulders and support black men ONLY, regardless of the consequences it has on our existence. I’ve never felt anti-black in my life…but I’m definitely considering rejecting ALL ideologies if it does not directly support black women 🤯
I wanted to call in this yesterday but I’m out of the country. I’m glad that Dr. Umar opened his mouth regarding BM illogical expectations of BW. Finally it’s been said “we want y’all to be sacrificial”. This makes so much sense and it’s all coming together full circle. Dr. Umar a relationship is a choice. A relationship is suppose to elevate and strengthen you, it’s not supposed to destroy you. Why are black men the only group of men who feels like a woman should be sacrificial? You also talked about energy exchange and how a white man cant “vibe” with a black woman. That’s not true and 100% subjective.
Another patheic female that has a issue with men why can't you see its tuff love but truth hurts if it bothers u then mabe u hsve a toxic heart a flithy mind an i bet you celebrate xmas tell ur kids Santa Claus is real ...the things some black say these day's I hope you wake up and see reality
@MsZ Every relationship requires those in the relationship to make sacrifices irrespective of race. If you think your going to get into a relationship where you won't have to compromise & make sacrifices you are setting yourself up for failure by holding onto unrealistic expectations. Respectfully.
Black relationships are mis matched high earning bw marry men who are not on their same level and they end up helping these men try to "do better" and end up miserable trying to do so.
Yes more BW should marry WM or any race of man that she loves period. I happed to marry a WM 17 years ago and it was the best decision I ever made. BW/WM married not a baby momma for 17 years and counting.
Everyone is not able to go to college for whatever reason, but either way women deserve to be in healthy relationships in which they are taken care of and respected.
“Everyone is not able to go to college” ABSOLUTE LIES!!! The reason BM are not able to go to college is because their high school drop out rate is so high which is their CHOICE not to finish high school! If you have a diploma or GED, Community Colleges accepts EVERYONE and Junior Colleges accepts people with really low gpa’s so there is no excuse! (Also I don’t just mean Associate’s, Bachelor’s, etc degrees but most TRADE SCHOOLS are held at community colleges and junior colleges and MOST BM are not even doing those either smh!) MOST BM just do NOT value any type of education SMH!!!!
4:44:35 Panelist: "Why don't women smile more? Why aren't they more feminine?" Same panelist: "I want to be treated like equals." Yet they are offended when you call them feminine. 🤷🏾♀️
And I wonder why he didn't really go in depth about the Virginia Vs Loving. That was something that BM wanted to win. In order to have access to WW. To be able to legally be with WW. And he contradicted himself. So if BM aren't going to marry BW when they gain financial access, so what are BW to do? Wait til he looses his wealth and then comes back to the Black community, and is able to start over. And just like Umar said, WW only marry BM if they have wealth. But BW can't marry for wealth and resources?? Get out of here!! What I see and hear: BW need to suffer in love, be it financially or romantically. We don't deserve happiness but should be on call when the BM gets himself together. We definitely can't marry out but the BM can!! Ladies, Just leave and move in silence.
Cold water!?!? Black people at least where I'm from clean thier meat with vinegar and lemon or lime juice, that chicken ain't hardly clean !! She didn't pat the meat dry which makes it fry up better and you season before you fry. You also season the flour as well as the meat.. I just fried chicken last night so this video has me highly triggered... Her mom is clearly not a sista, I can't - 🤣
I married a White man in 1984. Never regretted my decision, even when we divorced in 2005. STILL 100% better off than I was when I met him, and I am certain I would Never have married ifI had waited for a Black man to ask me to marry him.
Thank God, he won't lay with me👍🏽. And BW are Holdor from "Game of Thrones" for the Black Community. We need to break the connection between all the things trying to keep us holding the door to keep the black community together.
Themis that was a pretty valuable conclusion that you came to in the aftershow regarding the ways in which your levels of understanding, your frames of reference, and your process for learning is often vastly different to some of the people (most often men) who come onto the panel. I see you getting easily frustrated with them, and so do the women in the chat, but I've binged enough of your content to see that some of these guys are truly flailing. It's often like watching someone who recently learned addition attempt to have a discussion about long division. They're doing their best but it's almost painful to watch because they get shredded for thoughts that they themselves barely understand or fully fleshed out before jumping onto the panel. Most RUclips spaces don't ask much of their audiences so the degeneracy, shouting, not waiting for turns, etc. is common. This space was genuinely shocking to me because it felt almost hyper-civilized in comparison. It's why I love it here so much that there is an expectation for manners, respect, and some degree of intellect. I hate to sound like I'm coddling, but I realized pretty quickly that the ladies understand the expectations and can rise to the occasion (and make adjustments the few times they don't), but the men often don't and refuse to get with the programme. You can see it even in when the women speak, they are able to speak freely and have a back and forth with you because they understand how to conduct themselves, they know the points they want to cover and they can stand in their beliefs. With men it's rare that they get to speak freely because some foolishness will come out and they don't even understand their beliefs enough to have solid logic to go with it and it's a circus. Then their conversations turn into you essentially having to interview them until their entire belief system crashes around them and they spin out emotionally. I think it also highlights a bit of the idea of women dating down academically. Yes, higher education doesn't make a person smarter than those without especially in a time where you can learn a lot on your own for free. However these conversations that you have with many of these men is exactly what it's like to date down academically. You can try to see all of the other wonderful qualities in a man but communicating with them is like pulling teeth. It will give you migraines and make you worry if you're elitist or something for struggling to connect on these dates or in casual settings. BM get angry at the idea of educated BW calling it dating down but we have to water down our intellect to connect or spoon feed conversation to grown men only to be told we're too smart for our own good and think we're too good for them when their insecurities kick in. They can say degrees don't matter all they like but it does.
The chat box isn’t available yet and I’m at the part where Dr. Umar started praying to the ancestors 🤣🤣🤣 I’ll be back when the chat box is there cuz this is a mess 🤣🤣🤣 that man has lost his mind
The plastic bags are killing me! Where is the paper bag and where are the flavors??? In terms of Umar I believe he is using a technique called nuero linguistic programming. It's using suggestions and repetition to implant ideas to a easily suggestible audience. He does slip though and inform us his reasoning. BW are valuable to him. Was he not the man who collected millions of dollars to start an all black school that never happened? BW and their families are indeed valuable to him and this is his only argument.
The first guy on the after show is an example of the convos we have with them. It’s exhausting. They say stuff but can’t even answer a question about what they just said about us ! It means they are lying to themselves and they hope others will believe their lies 🤦🏾♀️
So BW must keep the black race going while everyone else does whatever they want? Oh and by the way just go ahead and accept whatever the BM is preaching and teaching as a collective( Domestic Violence, cheating, disregarding and degrading the BW over other women they prefer on national platforms and non-celebrity platforms) because the overall responsibility is all on the BW to hold everything in the black community down? Is that what Umar is saying BW are supposed to do? It’s our spiritual rite to do as BW? We’ll be damned if we don’t? So now you want to fear-monger and manipulate BW to do what only benefits the BM?
As a DSBW, I've been hit with colorism more than racism in my whole life. BM always use that argument as if they don't also discriminate against our skin, hair, color, and as if they don't fetishize our bodies ALL of the time.
Banks explained the title in the book. As I can recall, he was talking to a little black boy about him growing up, getting married, having children or something to that and the little boy’s comment was “only white people get married”. Then this comment made Banks do a lot of critical thinking about the ramifications that caused this young black boy to think this way and that brought forth the question which led to his research and the book. And Themis is correct, Banks was not going to title the book with this question, but it was determined by the publisher to be the best title to attract attention to the book.
If Dr. Umar wants to understand how and why Banks could write the book, maybe he should read the book. It is a well written, thought out book not based on opinion drawn from emotion and personal beliefs but backed by research, statistics, surveys, interviews and case studies, etc. where a logical conclusion was drawn based on that research.
I got me a good chuckle over Dr Umar acting like BW need to be making decisions on our dating life because he won't want us anymore. Then it hit me that it seems like he's promoting the idea of the tainted BW. Like if a woman ever dares to sleep with a man of another race (or perhaps more specifically a WM), her body is now tainted and her dating/sexual history is tarnished so therefore she as a whole is tainted and undatable. Considering these sort of RUclipsrs act as influencers to their subscribers, I wonder if some of his viewers will begin rejecting BW who were interested in sticking to BM only but has a past with men of another race. Like he's mentally branding them with a scarlet letter. I mean good riddance for those dudes and the women would have dodged a bullet if they think that way, but I worry that that rejection can turn physically violent. Many men with dangerous ideas of women and womanhood take that anger and disgust out on women violently. This way he speaks about women like we're these deified entities on a pedestal is dangerous to me because he sees the simplest things as us failing men and sullying ourselves. It is deeply unsettling to listen to the sort of language he uses. It sounds like it should be a compliment but he is over-pedestalizing women to a level we will never meet or maintain. There is some religious zealot/cultist vibes in the way he talks about our bodies and that has worse connotations with how there is unspoken ownership of us and the demonizing of white men on an actual religious ideas attached. Not to mention treating it like a mental illness and the idea that we're picking mental illness. People shrug off cultists when they're small, lack influence and seem harmless. It's only when they grow in power do we pay true attention and worry about their reach. This mess needs to be nipped in the bud. He's spewing the seeds of dangerous thinking.
He trying to set the standards that white men have towards white women who sleeps/date black men. The difference is that in general white men take care of their community and kids unlike majority of black men that only think about the women their trying to lay or the women in his family. And even that is not consistent
@@skylaskyborn6686 Many WW who r baby mamas 2 BM and Latinos r married 2 WM. When I tell u WM take those mixed stepsons EVERYWHERE. I've seen Black men and grandmas get mad looking at pictures of them on social media. I live in the South. Seen plenty WW whose 1st child is mixed and the rest r by WM.
@@luthorforpresident9353 yeah cause they see the bs of bm so they tuck their tail between their legs n went back to the men they know will take care of them
I have all my ribs and my mind too. Umar is insane if he thinks BM bear NO responsibility, can wild out, act a fool while BW bear ALL the responsibility for the BC. His statements are LITERALLY an invitation for any intelligent, normal thinking BW to do exactly what Ralph Banks recommends-- keep our options open for dating and mating. It would CLEARLY increase our chances of avoiding deranged people who think like Johnson.
Not the seasoning-less chicken 🥴🥴🥴! But this may be the funniest live yet outside of the one with Hafeez and his grey suit.😂😂. Men like Umar, the clownosphere and the likes are not delusional as they are fully aware of what they are saying. They are simply sadistic and lack any form of empathy for BW or each other. The moment I understood that, it became easy for me to "reconcile" what they say.
I appreciate this video and can totally empathize. I’ve had many issues in dating issues over the years and despite working on myself with therapy, eating healthy, working out, medication and other improvement. I’m trying not to be discouraged but it is difficult.
For you to say that it is sin to be with a non black man was unreal for me! This is why BW are so race loyal, even to our detriment!!! Ridiculous!! Are BM committing the same? They say if you hear something three times your mind interprets it as truth and I see he is using that idea. Lol
So basically he’s saying, BLK women should take the bottom of the barrel men and have struggle love but every other race of woman deserves the best man for her rather that be her race or other ! I’m sick and tired of BLK men thinking we as BLK women don’t deserve to have lives that are conducive to growth and financial stability and outcome of good living.
It's black women who believe that. Not really BM. As a woman, you should seek men who meet your standards. A good provider and man comes in all colors. If that's what is important to you, then get who can deliver!
Thank you Confidence with love your truth is so helpful. I to am older 50 plus, I left a long-term marriage to a black man. I started dating out and it is such a better experience. I'm much happier now.
I can admit that I didn't read the entire book. That said, I read enough of it to know that RR Banks posits Black women "considering marriage to White men" as a way to level out the power dynamics within the Black community and create healthier Black heterosexual relationships. The book came out a decade ago. Black women since then have helmed books, websites, "divestment movements" (smirk)... Black women are ACTIVELY promoting themselves to non-Black men. So... no more excuses. The "loyalty" line is out of the window. No one is "loyal". Now, we'll see how this will impact things. Personally, I don't think anything can be done to repair Black relationships at this point. Black women can't get married faster than Black men can get arrested, or get killed. So that dynamic will always be there until the system changes... which will never happen in our lifetime. The next ten years will be very interesting. You already see Black men and Black women diverging along political lines as well.
When Umar talks about women being the first made I think he's referring to mitochondrial Eve. The DNA strand that all humans have that comes from their matrilineal DNA and leads back to the first woman who was from Ethiopia and black. He's kind of mixing science with other religious stuff which can be a bit confusing. However, I feel he thrives on being intentionally unclear to grift his audience so...
Thanks for hosting the all male panel. The level of emotional immaturity and lack of BASIC knowledge among the males on that panel affirms and exposes some of the problems and issues in the BC. These males had problems with basic communication. Exhausting. No one normal wants to deal with this kind of s in their personal life and on a daily basis.
I was so confused about Umar’s points! After a while of listening about the energy of African vibration sounds crazy!!! I just can’t take him seriously at this point!!!
I wish I was in the chat because I’m up at 4am leaving all these comments in Teemus’ comment section 🤣 At this point, it’s not a joke anymore it’s not laughable. Black women need to get mad and reject these men. We’ve allowed them to be insulated and we’ve allowed them the guilt us to FAR that we’ve turned away from what’s necessary for the “queen’s” survival. Long live the Queen right??!! You know what countrymen do for their queens? They die for them, they fall on their swords for them, and Queens have the ability to bring down consequences for treasonous activities. If we don’t have that insulation nor the ability to protect ourselves, then this DEAD nation is not worth defending. Anti-black should not be a scarlet letter for us black women. Why? Because PROBLACK DOES NOT INCLUDE US! PROBLACK DOES NOT INCLUDE US! PROBLACK DOES NOT INCLUDE US! lol since we casting spells and ish 🤣
Getting thru Umar’s whole video was TAXING 😮💨. I need a break and a nap after having to hear him repeat his oh so profound teaching points over and over and over and over again😒. Chile.
@@graciouslyloved10 yea it does seem like some sort of cultish brainwashing going on. I really wouldn’t be surprised if whatever school he plans on opening up (if it ever does) turns out to be some kind of cult.
I am HERE for it whenever Themis goes into lawyer-mode!!! Even better when he gets righteously indignant!!! 😍🔥🤣Currently listening to discussion with Mello/men leading communities. *Also, please take care of yourself Themis! 🤎
RUclips recommended this video. I'll be watching it in installments, but just the very beginning. Watching and reacting to Paula cooking her mom's famous friend chicken was 😭😭😭
Now he says one and four black women in America will get married. What happens when the three out of four leave America and choose to marry abroad?!? This is why Ralph, Richard , banks, and the alike promote International marriage, especially for black women.❤
Well if 3 and 4 bw get married, then bw would start being viewed as personally successful. The narrative would change but researchers would scrutinize divorce statitics. If BW divorce more then they would highlight that. The trump card would be 3 our of 4 marrying and staying married for life. That's the sweet spot.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with black women dating out. BM are doing it 2 to 3 times the rate we are. Go where you’re celebrated! FIND YOUR EQUAL! Expand your options and stop MULING!
5:10:30 As someone who mentors hundreds of children I do my very best to be mindful of my temperament. It is imperative that black women work diligently to fight against the urge to be mean and impatient when engaging with children. For some women this is difficult. They have no partner to help raise their children. But if this cycle can be broken, it may go a long way in dismantling the generational dysfunction. Also, was born and raised NOI (nation of Islam). Self reliance is the cornerstone of this sect of Muslims.
I agree op. I was fortunate enough to have a mom who was supportive and nurturing of me and my siblings. Letting us take our time whilst making mistakes but also guiding us. We weren’t brought up in the Nation of Islam but she just loved being a mother. I’m also a teacher because of her. She was also a young mother as well. Having me (her first child) at 19 years old. Her mother was a teen mom and wasn’t a patient mother but she got better with her grandchildren. I also was raised in a two parent home and my mother worked as well.
@@ハワルドスタンテシヤ you were blessed. Women like yourself should take that experience and foster relationships with struggling kids IF the spirit so moves you.
@@ハワルドスタンテシヤ let me know if you need any guidance as I have opened two in the last few years. I’m going to open the first black owned science and arts school in my region. You may pick my brain if you would like for resources and such.
I did read the book, and while I do not agree with everything, Ralph, Richard Bank stated it is a fact that black women are struggling unnecessarily, and black women should consider all of her options globally in order to save her life in that of her lineage
4:44:03 So many red flags. He said whenever he hears a woman talk about whatever she’s talking about, he basically disregarding what ever she says. He only finds issue that the blame isn’t place on women rather than men.
Actually…. I won’t be surprised if the story of the black boy asking him that question is true. I have heard many BP (especially BM) from certain multiple segments……who were using “marriage is white people” or the way it is done in the West is not how BP and their ancestors did it. I’m a Gen Xer, so the narrative may have slightly changed, but it was definitely a talking point amongst BP at certain point.
Question is should black woman go thier whole life and NEVER be allowed to be LOVED by anyone ?I dnt know what you want BW to do . BM not all but BM are showing hatred towards their own . Wat do you want them to do ???Sit n wait for BM to come back when they are in thier 50's? It's SO sad. Once again BW will be blamed for choosing other race .
A black women shouldn’t give her womb to any Man of any race who dehumanizes her❤ she should be wise in choosing a man who came from places and nations that never enslaved her people❤
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00:01 - Intro (Paula Patton's 🐔🍗)
09:01 - Themis' Initial Commentary
17:50 - 02:01:32 - Dr. Umar Johnson's Response
36:24 - 39:54 - Grasping at straws...
02:01:33 - Caller, Me Not Me's Commentary
02:06:33 - Commentary from Deeann
02:16:29 - Open Panel Discussion, Pt 1
02:57:04 - A Conversation with Mello
03:10:07 - Should Men Lead Their Communities?
03:18:18 - Open Panel Discussion, Pt 2
04:02:46 - After Show (All Men's Panel)
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Omg… again, thank you 😊
We need to have a specific pin for when dr.umar starts to back track when he realizes the author is a black man with a black wife 🤣🤣🤣
@@MissDee757 omg, please put it here and she will include it.
Date out bw. Leave this community. We deserve better. I'm not a breeder.
Just listening to all the all male part of the show made my skin crawl. BW remove yourself, your daughters, and females friends you have AWAY. The only advantage I see, is that they're not smart enough to hide their pathology.
Yes. Slavery is over. You can enjoy happy matrimony and birthing children in a stable environment, if you choose.
@@Mimi-xv6jm slavery is Not ova, in s0 Many ways smdh!🤦🏽♀️😒 Sad that grown ass blkppl think that it is..🤦🏽♀️🤨
#Delusionalfolks😳
So dating white make u feel soft and safe?
I had a Dr. Johnson presentation previously. He gave Black women limited options: marry Black, single mother or being a sister wife. Well, I did marry Black and was in a toxic relationship. Since the divorce, I was single for over 20 years and NO black man sought me. But a white man did and we married. No one should intimidate a Black woman to limit her ability to find and be loved.
Exactly… to your point of NO black men seeking you out…
BW cannot marry BM who don’t want to marry BW (alot of them, on the basis that she is black vs non-black)
@@rf3575nd YOUR point is? That BW have weeded out (albeit involuntary) low-quality men, marriage with whom statistically and empirically yields a loss of wealth and health? Let BM keep on not wanting BW. Taking Ws on that.
Dr Ralph Richard Banks is simply reporting on the weather while UJ is literally blaming him for causing the storm. Pathetic.
There are 3 questions I always ask blk people that I never get the response to:
1. What are bw meant to do if their options are so scarce in their own community? Even knowing what we know about how it comes about.
2. Who is supposed to financially support Blk children if their fathers don't want to pay child support and want to contribute in "other ways"?
3. What do bm do that makes them lovable since I can name so many reasons why Bw are lovable? (I have had Bw give answers to this. NEVER bm... and I have asked them in every space, and they never respond. They just tell me I h8 them. Which I don't. I wish I did. But I don't. It's worse because I don't respect them AT ALL).
Well said, like ans ,well said.
@@Xara_K1 I've asked bm similar questions as well: "what do bm do collectively that deserves respect?" and I ask them to prove that most bm love bw since they always default to that. They don't answer the first question, they always default to bringing up "zaddy", so pathetic. When I press them about it, they cite things from 100 or even a thousand yrs ago that have nothing to do with them today, and I destroy that too. For the second question, when I destroy their weak, inaccurate talking points of: "80+% of bm marry bw", they go deep into denial. It really is incredibly pathetic. They just want to live in a fantasy.
Exactly
So he just said even if BM are not loyal to her, it's still the BW responsibility to uphold the community?? So we are the leaders now! So where does submission come into play?? Looks like BM should be submitting!!! 🤷🏾♀️
Facts. They need to let it go if they aren't going to lead.
Child they are submitting! Handing over thier fortunes to women of no color. Literally white judges are hitting them with extreme child support and divide divorce settlements
Yeah exactly… cuz I’m confused.
What a savage and underrated comment. Bravo!!!!! 👍
It's called delusion. When men blame everyone and everything for all their failures, you know it's over. How can men expect the women to lead, provide 50/50, march for them but at the same time also submit to nothing they offer?
How dare Dr. Umar tell me as a black mother that I am supposed to sacrifice my daughters to this struggle love dynamic for some loyalty to the black race. I am not going to have my daughters suffering just to be with a black man.
Dr. Umar has no right to demand anything from black women. He conveniently ignores single motherhood, the high rates of DV, and black femicide.
I would like to see Dr. Umar debate Ralph Richard Banks. B/c Dr. Umar can't debunk the facts of the book. And for the record, Dr. Umar has left two black women to be single mothers and he doesn't pay child support.
Say it ain't so🤭🤭🤭
The one thing black mothers should do is not have children with black men and especially black boys. There is nothing good in black boys at all.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 yessss. We need a debate based on FACTS and not emotions. Maybe then would these kangs start to value education and no longer remain ignorant. Ignorance goes hand in hand with high DV, SA, homicide rates, etc.
@@natashamwangi4890 - Yes, and he promotes polygamy.
@@mizzmolly7649 don’t debate with them. It’s a waste of time and energy. Energy vampires, which all dusties are, feed off your attention.
It's a profound disgrace that a woke black man who's intelligent like him refuses to hold black men accountable. He is not married either. So, he is proving the Dr. right. The delusion is REAL.
He is a scammer and black women are his base. It's affecting his coin so he is compelled to argue against it.
The discussion should be about not giving birth to black men, instead if always praying for them to be accountable, just end their existence
“woke” aka racist scumbag
he is "married" to two BW. his solution for the BM shortage is polygamy.
@@jones2277 All black women need to marry white, black men are obsolete and washed out.
BW if you’re fed up with the double talk, “black power” “stick together” BS from BM who’ve had ample time to get their sh*t together but refuse to…
Get you degree(s), intellect, career, money and exit stage left 🚪.
The tornado of dust from this “Dr.” is unsettling.
This live was so entertaining. Themis came with the receipts. That moment dr.umar realized that the author's wife was black will forever live in my head rent free. I was dying along with Themis at that genuine reaction.
And not ONLY is she a bw, she’s a dark skinned unambiguous bw. He almost had a heart attack💀💀. Couldn’t even argue that he married a light skin woman
It was my favorite part, because he could not hide his shock, as another BS excuse to criticize RRB slipped through his fingers.
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Timestamp?
@firstname lastname he would have made way more money, and wouldn't have to deal with coming up with a new scam.
What I’ve noticed is that the book is about BW MARRYING WM but yet he talks about sex between them by mentioning letting the demon inside them or whatever. He proceeded to say real African men only DATES BW.
There is a difference between sex, dating and marriage. That’s the problem with a lot of BM. Women don’t want to just date or just sex on them their whole life. Women want more and the author is giving another alternative. He proved his point with that one.
HOTEPS ARE EXHAUSTING.....AF!.... You are so right. The Books of Romans speaks of these" types" "Their God is there Belly"
Preach
Right sex and marriage is two different things.. just chaos and confusion
Exactly he basically said black women are sex objects. I don't find Dr.Umar to be an intelligent man. I find him to be a person who can regurgitate whatever information he reads and then guilt trip black women to settle for dust.If he was truly for the community, he would have lead by example. Be married and call out the bs amongst bm not pulling their weight.
@@rhiyoncegold8087 I agree I only listen to him when he talking about politics. But when it comes to this I pay him no mind.
I have great example why BW have to go into their masculine: my mom was married to my dad for 7 years. Had my brother, worked a job and provided. Then 7 years hit, he becomes an alcoholic, can't keep a job, so he couldn't provide and then started beating my mom. I came along in that 7th year of marriage. And my mom had to divorce my dad. She was not educated and had to work factory jobs that under paid. So she went from Feminine to Masculine in order to provide, nurture, protect us and doing all this by herself.
Then fast forward comes in my step dad. Great provider, she didn't have to work... he stepped up to the plate of manhood, where my father failed in. He was what my father couldn't or wouldn't want to be. Like I say, BM want BW to be soft and pillowy but she is fighting each day to survive and to provide for her family. No one is going into battle in all Pink and Soft! That's an Oxymoron!!
wyte bois just 'dump' you all off at the local marina with a heavy anvil "ankle bracelet" when he wants to abandon you...
@@keyfield8967 and white girls just stab you to death! I guess we even then!
@@keyfield8967 and black men shoot us. So here we are.
@@keyfield8967 🤦🏾♀️ you can’t even string along an intelligent conversation to support whatever point you’re attempting to make. You’re simply supporting the available data.
Ever 5 hrs a black man kills a black woman in America.....
Chew on that for a min
Another problem w/ the “Black woman is God” shtick is it strips away our humanity. We’re just people. We want love and companionship like everyone does. This invisible crown hoteps like Umar bestow on us is one of loneliness, stress, and suffering. I gave up on religion but aren’t you supposed to love your gods?
Exactly! I don't even like them casually calling us "queen". I've never read or heard about a queen that was unprotected by the collective of the men in her community. NEVER.
@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 right. Who is making podcasts to insult their queen? We’re b!tches, hoes, nightriders, etc when we’re doing their bidding but when we’re exploring our romantic options we’re queens who deserve nothing but the (black male) best. Sure, Jan
It's not really a shtick. It's based on African spirituality. Kemet spirituality. It's not a religion exactly. The Gods are within us basically. You have to become in tune with it though. Material doesn't make a queen, it's the soul that does. Queens don't give up on their people which is the whole point of the Queen King thing. It's all a matter of if you'll rise up as one or succumb under the pressure. There will always be those who hate and love you. That's pretty much common sense. You'll find hate no matter where you go. Its a fact of life. If everyone likes you, then something definitely isn't right.
@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 That's because your definition of Queen is based off fairy tales. The leaders of countries today are bombed with hate speech all the time and so were the kings and queens in that era.
@@SeveredWorldLore it does us no favors. I abandoned it and hope more people do the same
The fact that very few men that hop on this panel and have the range that women have along with Themis is PROVING DR. BANKS' POINT! WE ARE INCOMPATIBLE!
No lie, this is a great viewpoint. Lol the arguments from both sides illustrate the incompatibility.
The men that have the range aren’t hanging out on RUclips.
@@CrispyMakiDumplings regardless. they dont seem concerned with any discourse on any platform about the state of the black family. where ever those unicorns are. A lot of men with an education or good career in their arsenal, who seem to possess the "range," lack EQ (emotional intelligence) and empathy...
Exactly, this is what I have also been noticing😫😫
Most American bw are to smart for the average American bm. Most bm are ONLY fluent in English Ebonics. Can’t even string a proper English sentence to save there lives. But didn’t we all get the same English lessons while in school???
BW have to maintain femininity (which is being delicate, soft and demure) whilst being the single parent, having to protect, provide and nurture her offspring! Get out of here. That BM expects too much from BW. Women become Feminine when she is place in an environment that allows her too i.e married to a man that is nurturing her mentality, spirituality and in all aspects of her life. Where she is not putting on armor and marching to the battle lines. When your man or men of your community are doing the footwork and protecting, that is when she flourishes. She exudes her divine Feminine. You can't be soft and pink in the midst of battle.
Say that!!💯
Well said
The one caller mentioned that even her dad said why isn't she dating the Non Black men that want to pursue, is so true. I'm married to a Black man and he also told our daughters to not limit their dating options. My daughter was asked in her Jr year at HS to prom, by a white young man and she turned him down. Her dad said why? She was like coz his White. Her father told her, do not limit yourself, even if it is as simple as a prom date, based on race. He went further to let bot our girls know, he does not care who they date, partner or marry. As long as he provides, protects, has your mental health in check, doesn't cheat and has core Values that uphold family. And their dad is an educated man that completed college. And his lense and view is the polar opposite from what Umar subscribes to...
It's true, even here in Afrika, we are getting rid of the need for black men, I urged my sisters to marry white, their mixed children may not keep Afrikan traditions of old useless black men, but that is good. The black man's existence is coming to an end. Even as a black man, I can see our end. I can only work with non black men in business. Afrika is returning to the hands of white men who are responsible with the land.
Your daughter’s reaction to the prom request goes to show the “social cues” we BW face at an early age to remain race loyal. Your husband is rare indeed. My father was cool with my brother dating non black girls but bristled when me and my sister dated non black men! 😂 his hypocrisy was glaring.
Your husband is right and is exhibiting true love and protection.
It's unfair to tell our babies to limit their options.
I've been telling my nieces to ignore everything I used to tell them, and to date whom they find interesting regardless of race ever since I realized I was basically telling them to not seek healthy relationships where they find them.
Life is too short and bw don't dictate marriage so it's unfair to expect them to rely on a group of men with the lowest rate of marriage
"Hes White!" Thats a reason To Leap in quicksand and wait for a Rope? (A Savior) Good her Father corrected that thinking! Is she doesnt Learn SHE WILL!....
You dummy - how many wyte families scream, cringe, and PERMANENTLY disown their own blood relatives over IR stuff? Bunch of foreign mammies in the US now- what island your family flee from?...pathetic but "you people" will learn the hard way...
I’ve only given black men a chance, and it’s always a sorry ending. Even in the past 3 years I really tried to be with two different men, the one I found out was living with his son’s mother😒. The other was someone from church, and he completely ghosted me without any explanation 😭👻 The only black men I have any loyalty to now is my son and my brother, Dr Umar is out of his chakra addled mind if he thinks I’m going to sit here twiddling my thumbs, waiting out of some misguided loyalty to a group of men that have consistently disrespected me.
Black women really have to stop giving birth to black men
Sorry to hear that sis but I don’t think it would be fair to judge the whole of Black men or Black women based off of two people.
@@danieln.6097 Repeated patterns of behavior that have been noticeable for decades is beyond just a few black people
@@googleuser7454 I agree their is a percentage of Black people that are not ready for a relationship but I wouldn’t discount all Black women because of a few. It goes both ways.
@Adele I would say look into the Israelites & find a congregation in your area. Their are plenty of righteous brothers.
I am definitely that black woman. I'm tired of meeting people who can't communicate on my level.
@TONY get over what exactly? Do you think I'm over here sobbing in my beer? Get over yourself...
@TONY like I said,.get over yourself.
@TONY lol no one forced you to comment on my thread. You "get ta steppin" if you need the interaction to end...or maybe actually have a conversation on the topic. Whatever you choose is up to you.
@TONY ok. Comment on lol. I'm glad you're enjoying yourself. Happy is the life of the easily pleased. You can never get bored. I swear some parents shouldn't let their kids play with their phones. Have fun dear.
@TONY wow lol
When he said "his wife is black" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he was too stunned
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I fell OUT. Why is he so damn funny. 🤣🤣🤣🤣😩😩😩
I literally fell on the floor 😂😂😂😂😆
Yes queen he was shooket !!🤣🤣🤣
"BM are twice as likely than BW to marry out." Welp...end of discussion.
I'm tired of men talking about feminine energy when they have NO IDEA on what it is. If you don't know about Dark Feminine energy, don't talk to me 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾 feminine does NOT mean docile or passive...
If they want to judge is on feminine energy, let's judge them on masculine energy. What have they build, created, fought for, or provided that is still of benefit to the so called black community in 2022? Where do you think you stand?
Not to mentioned how many times they've been conquered. If they were honest, instead of spending hours and hours filibustering on podcasts and RUclips channels they would admit the truth....they don't know how to lead, perhaps some men are just meant to. All evidence suggests they can't do it.
@Belle see that's the thing it's not bad, it literally just means taking the negative situations out of life and rebirthing it into something different. I used to think that way too. What this current divestment movement and bwe movement is is predicated on dark femininity; dismantling old ways of thinking that don't serve Us in order to usher in a new
@Belle dark energy is as harmless as a shadow unless you ignore it in yourself and pretend you don’t possess it. Just like all objects and people have the capacity to cast a shadow in the sun, all humans possess dark energy that can be tapped into to get shit done. People who pretend like they don’t have it end up being ruled by it. Dark feminine energy utilization means you know how to leverage life on your terms, because you know that nothing or no one is perfect, therefore it’s your duty to be strategic and play to win. All women possess dark feminine energy. Crafty women tap into it and get what they want out of life.
This analysis by Dr. Umar Johnson is a perfect example of writing a book report using the synopsis on the back cover. He didn't even open the book to read the "About the author".
All of that and some more.
That’s why I believes he bought a paper degree online. Somebody with a doctorate would know better than to do what Dr Umar did to address RRB’s talking points.
Oh my god - I just had the most horrifying ah-ha moment about hoteps and “black Christianity”.
Black men give woman the title “goddess” and “queen” as to have the ability to bestow GOD ORDAINED RESPONSIBILITY and LIABILITY to the black woman. They do not believe we should be protected, revered, or sovereign like Gods…no, we have to carry the entire weight of the continent of African on our shoulders and support black men ONLY, regardless of the consequences it has on our existence.
I’ve never felt anti-black in my life…but I’m definitely considering rejecting ALL ideologies if it does not directly support black women 🤯
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The message isn't to stay. The message is "sit" as if we are dogs who will obey the master.
I'm hollering dr. Umar repeating him it forever funny to me.
I'm hollering dr. Umar repeating him it forever funny to me.
😂😭
Umar is just putting on a show at this point! He can’t be serious! He knows this type of foolishness gets him views, so he keeps acting clownish.
Black women; love who loves you right.
Ralph Richard Banks said this 10 yrs ago on CNN. He's a prophet in my book.
Alot of ppl were the only ones who didn't wanna see it was black women
@@trollallday151 BINGO!
I wanted to call in this yesterday but I’m out of the country. I’m glad that Dr. Umar opened his mouth regarding BM illogical expectations of BW. Finally it’s been said “we want y’all to be sacrificial”. This makes so much sense and it’s all coming together full circle. Dr. Umar a relationship is a choice. A relationship is suppose to elevate and strengthen you, it’s not supposed to destroy you. Why are black men the only group of men who feels like a woman should be sacrificial? You also talked about energy exchange and how a white man cant “vibe” with a black woman. That’s not true and 100% subjective.
THEY ARE JEALOUS OF YOUR FREEDOM OF CHOICE!
Another patheic female that has a issue with men why can't you see its tuff love but truth hurts if it bothers u then mabe u hsve a toxic heart a flithy mind an i bet you celebrate xmas tell ur kids Santa Claus is real ...the things some black say these day's I hope you wake up and see reality
@MsZ Every relationship requires those in the relationship to make sacrifices irrespective of race. If you think your going to get into a relationship where you won't have to compromise & make sacrifices you are setting yourself up for failure by holding onto unrealistic expectations. Respectfully.
@@danieln.6097 not to the extent that you are sacrificing your well being and happiness.
@@Iammissztaylor I can agree with you on that.
Black relationships are mis matched high earning bw marry men who are not on their same level and they end up helping these men try to "do better" and end up miserable trying to do so.
Only for them to leave them for they really want to be with…
There are plenty of mammies that will stay home in Blackistan. But rest of us are divesting. Keep struggle love alive y'all LOL
“He’s every reason why Dr. Banks is right.” Well stated Deeann. 👌🏾
Yep ! Case closed
Yes more BW should marry WM or any race of man that she loves period. I happed to marry a WM 17 years ago and it was the best decision I ever made. BW/WM married not a baby momma for 17 years and counting.
Everyone is not able to go to college for whatever reason, but either way women deserve to be in healthy relationships in which they are taken care of and respected.
True, but they (BM) certainly AREN'T KINGS!
@@RepublicTeaRoom Nope! Kings have Kingdoms! And Wealth and Respect!
“Everyone is not able to go to college” ABSOLUTE LIES!!! The reason BM are not able to go to college is because their high school drop out rate is so high which is their CHOICE not to finish high school! If you have a diploma or GED, Community Colleges accepts EVERYONE and Junior Colleges accepts people with really low gpa’s so there is no excuse! (Also I don’t just mean Associate’s, Bachelor’s, etc degrees but most TRADE SCHOOLS are held at community colleges and junior colleges and MOST BM are not even doing those either smh!) MOST BM just do NOT value any type of education SMH!!!!
4:44:35
Panelist: "Why don't women smile more? Why aren't they more feminine?"
Same panelist: "I want to be treated like equals."
Yet they are offended when you call them feminine. 🤷🏾♀️
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Paula making chicken makes me so sad. Poor chickens died for this foolishness
Paula apologized to the chickens too 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sakizaky9270 She knew she couldn’t cook😂 Nah but I seen that, she kept doing it
😂😂😂 right 😂
She had to be trolling! Unseasoned chicken!
And I wonder why he didn't really go in depth about the Virginia Vs Loving. That was something that BM wanted to win. In order to have access to WW. To be able to legally be with WW.
And he contradicted himself. So if BM aren't going to marry BW when they gain financial access, so what are BW to do? Wait til he looses his wealth and then comes back to the Black community, and is able to start over. And just like Umar said, WW only marry BM if they have wealth. But BW can't marry for wealth and resources?? Get out of here!!
What I see and hear: BW need to suffer in love, be it financially or romantically. We don't deserve happiness but should be on call when the BM gets himself together. We definitely can't marry out but the BM can!! Ladies, Just leave and move in silence.
Cold water!?!?
Black people at least where I'm from clean thier meat with vinegar and lemon or lime juice, that chicken ain't hardly clean !! She didn't pat the meat dry which makes it fry up better and you season before you fry. You also season the flour as well as the meat.. I just fried chicken last night so this video has me highly triggered...
Her mom is clearly not a sista, I can't - 🤣
The sad thing is that she is bringing this chicken to her son's school. I feel so bad for him.
I think her mom is black 🥴
Her mom's chicken also isn't "famous"!!! Well, it wasn't. Now it's infamous.
1:36:14 and since i am the creator of all mankind im gone marry whoever i want.
As you should 😉
As I will 🤣
I married a White man in 1984. Never regretted my decision, even when we divorced in 2005. STILL 100% better off than I was when I met him, and I am certain I would Never have married ifI had waited for a Black man to ask me to marry him.
@@deborahfrederick916 Get another One! Move On and LIVE!
Thank God, he won't lay with me👍🏽. And BW are Holdor from "Game of Thrones" for the Black Community. We need to break the connection between all the things trying to keep us holding the door to keep the black community together.
This was one of the most HILARIOUS lives yet OH MY GOD.
My sides were aching most of it 😂😭
Themis that was a pretty valuable conclusion that you came to in the aftershow regarding the ways in which your levels of understanding, your frames of reference, and your process for learning is often vastly different to some of the people (most often men) who come onto the panel. I see you getting easily frustrated with them, and so do the women in the chat, but I've binged enough of your content to see that some of these guys are truly flailing. It's often like watching someone who recently learned addition attempt to have a discussion about long division. They're doing their best but it's almost painful to watch because they get shredded for thoughts that they themselves barely understand or fully fleshed out before jumping onto the panel. Most RUclips spaces don't ask much of their audiences so the degeneracy, shouting, not waiting for turns, etc. is common. This space was genuinely shocking to me because it felt almost hyper-civilized in comparison.
It's why I love it here so much that there is an expectation for manners, respect, and some degree of intellect. I hate to sound like I'm coddling, but I realized pretty quickly that the ladies understand the expectations and can rise to the occasion (and make adjustments the few times they don't), but the men often don't and refuse to get with the programme. You can see it even in when the women speak, they are able to speak freely and have a back and forth with you because they understand how to conduct themselves, they know the points they want to cover and they can stand in their beliefs. With men it's rare that they get to speak freely because some foolishness will come out and they don't even understand their beliefs enough to have solid logic to go with it and it's a circus. Then their conversations turn into you essentially having to interview them until their entire belief system crashes around them and they spin out emotionally.
I think it also highlights a bit of the idea of women dating down academically. Yes, higher education doesn't make a person smarter than those without especially in a time where you can learn a lot on your own for free. However these conversations that you have with many of these men is exactly what it's like to date down academically. You can try to see all of the other wonderful qualities in a man but communicating with them is like pulling teeth. It will give you migraines and make you worry if you're elitist or something for struggling to connect on these dates or in casual settings. BM get angry at the idea of educated BW calling it dating down but we have to water down our intellect to connect or spoon feed conversation to grown men only to be told we're too smart for our own good and think we're too good for them when their insecurities kick in. They can say degrees don't matter all they like but it does.
She said I was trying to be an interesting person to know and date. And then be called a know-it-all. Been there.
The chat box isn’t available yet and I’m at the part where Dr. Umar started praying to the ancestors 🤣🤣🤣 I’ll be back when the chat box is there cuz this is a mess 🤣🤣🤣 that man has lost his mind
I love it when Themis laughs so heartilly. It lights up my day😊😊😊
The plastic bags are killing me! Where is the paper bag and where are the flavors???
In terms of Umar I believe he is using a technique called nuero linguistic programming. It's using suggestions and repetition to implant ideas to a easily suggestible audience. He does slip though and inform us his reasoning. BW are valuable to him. Was he not the man who collected millions of dollars to start an all black school that never happened? BW and their families are indeed valuable to him and this is his only argument.
He most definitely is using NLP!! Others may even call in casting a spell - as to still follow him you need to be under some kind of spell.
Yes, bw are valuable to him as suckers to be taken advantage of.
Hold on. At 54:46.. Did he just say that woman should stay in bad intimate relationships for racial solidarity???????
Yes. The exact opposite of what the book suggest.
Not me trying to watch a 5 hour live again 😩 I really can’t get enough of Themis…..no hetero😂
I literally have to brace myself before I listen to Mr. Umar speak.
He is really insulting our intelligence with his baseless ignorant accusations about Kamala Harris and Ketanji Jackson’s husbands.
The first guy on the after show is an example of the convos we have with them. It’s exhausting. They say stuff but can’t even answer a question about what they just said about us ! It means they are lying to themselves and they hope others will believe their lies 🤦🏾♀️
So BW must keep the black race going while everyone else does whatever they want? Oh and by the way just go ahead and accept whatever the BM is preaching and teaching as a collective( Domestic Violence, cheating, disregarding and degrading the BW over other women they prefer on national platforms and non-celebrity platforms) because the overall responsibility is all on the BW to hold everything in the black community down? Is that what Umar is saying BW are supposed to do? It’s our spiritual rite to do as BW? We’ll be damned if we don’t? So now you want to fear-monger and manipulate BW to do what only benefits the BM?
The laughter had me chucking about that damn chicken, lol!!!
Racism from White ppl. Okay, what about Colorism? That's not an issue black women face with the black men they date?
As a DSBW, I've been hit with colorism more than racism in my whole life. BM always use that argument as if they don't also discriminate against our skin, hair, color, and as if they don't fetishize our bodies ALL of the time.
Banks explained the title in the book. As I can recall, he was talking to a little black boy about him growing up, getting married, having children or something to that and the little boy’s comment was “only white people get married”. Then this comment made Banks do a lot of critical thinking about the ramifications that caused this young black boy to think this way and that brought forth the question which led to his research and the book. And Themis is correct, Banks was not going to title the book with this question, but it was determined by the publisher to be the best title to attract attention to the book.
How don’t these men look back at these lives and think “Damn I sound like an idiot?” Themis be holding his own and I’m so here for it.
Lmao fr I wouldn’t talk unless I had the facts not just my opinion.
If Dr. Umar wants to understand how and why Banks could write the book, maybe he should read the book. It is a well written, thought out book not based on opinion drawn from emotion and personal beliefs but backed by research, statistics, surveys, interviews and case studies, etc. where a logical conclusion was drawn based on that research.
I got me a good chuckle over Dr Umar acting like BW need to be making decisions on our dating life because he won't want us anymore. Then it hit me that it seems like he's promoting the idea of the tainted BW. Like if a woman ever dares to sleep with a man of another race (or perhaps more specifically a WM), her body is now tainted and her dating/sexual history is tarnished so therefore she as a whole is tainted and undatable. Considering these sort of RUclipsrs act as influencers to their subscribers, I wonder if some of his viewers will begin rejecting BW who were interested in sticking to BM only but has a past with men of another race. Like he's mentally branding them with a scarlet letter. I mean good riddance for those dudes and the women would have dodged a bullet if they think that way, but I worry that that rejection can turn physically violent. Many men with dangerous ideas of women and womanhood take that anger and disgust out on women violently. This way he speaks about women like we're these deified entities on a pedestal is dangerous to me because he sees the simplest things as us failing men and sullying ourselves. It is deeply unsettling to listen to the sort of language he uses. It sounds like it should be a compliment but he is over-pedestalizing women to a level we will never meet or maintain. There is some religious zealot/cultist vibes in the way he talks about our bodies and that has worse connotations with how there is unspoken ownership of us and the demonizing of white men on an actual religious ideas attached. Not to mention treating it like a mental illness and the idea that we're picking mental illness. People shrug off cultists when they're small, lack influence and seem harmless. It's only when they grow in power do we pay true attention and worry about their reach. This mess needs to be nipped in the bud. He's spewing the seeds of dangerous thinking.
If that’s the case then 98% of black men are tainted…
He need to tell that to his Stripper! (He still hasnt Married!)
He trying to set the standards that white men have towards white women who sleeps/date black men. The difference is that in general white men take care of their community and kids unlike majority of black men that only think about the women their trying to lay or the women in his family. And even that is not consistent
@@skylaskyborn6686 Many WW who r baby mamas 2 BM and Latinos r married 2 WM. When I tell u WM take those mixed stepsons EVERYWHERE. I've seen Black men and grandmas get mad looking at pictures of them on social media. I live in the South. Seen plenty WW whose 1st child is mixed and the rest r by WM.
@@luthorforpresident9353 yeah cause they see the bs of bm so they tuck their tail between their legs n went back to the men they know will take care of them
chiiiile when he said ancestral womb 😂😂
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This is freakin’ hysterical!! OMG! I’m breathless!!😂😂
I stepped out of my race 8 years ago and I left no forwarding address 🤣🤣 struggle free
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Umar using the white mans search engine (google)
And got the white man's PhD too. 🤣🤣🤣
A lot of educated black men still propagate the single parent issues.
Exactly, they make fatherless homes just like their pookie brethren.
Excellent video btw. Big up you! Glad I found your channel. Ive never heard a black man speaking logically and factually on the topic at hand. 🇯🇲❤️
I have all my ribs and my mind too. Umar is insane if he thinks BM bear NO responsibility, can wild out, act a fool while BW bear ALL the responsibility for the BC. His statements are LITERALLY an invitation for any intelligent, normal thinking BW to do exactly what Ralph Banks recommends-- keep our options open for dating and mating. It would CLEARLY increase our chances of avoiding deranged people who think like Johnson.
Be Glad ...THEY are Exposing Themselves FOR ALL TO SEE!..... ..RUN!
@PK P LikeI said the days of normalcy are ending. Your tune will change with the violation and termination wrought by the enemy.
@@truth2746 🙄
Jesus Christ I was today years old when I realised that my womb could be used as a weapon of mass destruction. I’m shook 😩
Not the seasoning-less chicken 🥴🥴🥴! But this may be the funniest live yet outside of the one with Hafeez and his grey suit.😂😂. Men like Umar, the clownosphere and the likes are not delusional as they are fully aware of what they are saying. They are simply sadistic and lack any form of empathy for BW or each other. The moment I understood that, it became easy for me to "reconcile" what they say.
I’m stealing the CLOWNosphere🤡😭🏆🙌🏽
@@sallyhemings2295 Oh yes please! Steal away🤣🤣🤣 As that's what they are: clowns with microphones/podcasts 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
No one with Commonsense. Cares about This Person! Reality will Deal with his types!
Themis is so right
The femininity conversation is so exhausting ugh
I appreciate this video and can totally empathize. I’ve had many issues in dating issues over the years and despite working on myself with therapy, eating healthy, working out, medication and other improvement. I’m trying not to be discouraged but it is difficult.
For you to say that it is sin to be with a non black man was unreal for me! This is why BW are so race loyal, even to our detriment!!! Ridiculous!! Are BM committing the same? They say if you hear something three times your mind interprets it as truth and I see he is using that idea. Lol
If You can be minipulated by Him! You should Date/Marry No one! Seek a good Psychiatrist!
@@iwhippedcreamcode4642 exactly!!! Lol he's a joke but there is a study about that. He is hilarious to me...I just can't.
85% of married Black men are married to Black women.
So basically he’s saying, BLK women should take the bottom of the barrel men and have struggle love but every other race of woman deserves the best man for her rather that be her race or other ! I’m sick and tired of BLK men thinking we as BLK women don’t deserve to have lives that are conducive to growth and financial stability and outcome of good living.
It's black women who believe that. Not really BM. As a woman, you should seek men who meet your standards. A good provider and man comes in all colors. If that's what is important to you, then get who can deliver!
Why does Umar have a voice on ANYTHING pertaining to BW?
THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD CALLER...CHANEL
Lawd gee. It is so hard for them to understand and converse.
Thank you Confidence with love your truth is so helpful. I to am older 50 plus, I left a long-term marriage to a black man. I started dating out and it is such a better experience. I'm much happier now.
I can admit that I didn't read the entire book. That said, I read enough of it to know that RR Banks posits Black women "considering marriage to White men" as a way to level out the power dynamics within the Black community and create healthier Black heterosexual relationships.
The book came out a decade ago. Black women since then have helmed books, websites, "divestment movements" (smirk)... Black women are ACTIVELY promoting themselves to non-Black men.
So... no more excuses. The "loyalty" line is out of the window. No one is "loyal". Now, we'll see how this will impact things.
Personally, I don't think anything can be done to repair Black relationships at this point. Black women can't get married faster than Black men can get arrested, or get killed. So that dynamic will always be there until the system changes... which will never happen in our lifetime.
The next ten years will be very interesting. You already see Black men and Black women diverging along political lines as well.
32:17 its funny because out of this comes their pref🤣 make it make sense.
I hope to never have the misfortune of eating chicken done that way 😑
When Umar talks about women being the first made I think he's referring to mitochondrial Eve. The DNA strand that all humans have that comes from their matrilineal DNA and leads back to the first woman who was from Ethiopia and black. He's kind of mixing science with other religious stuff which can be a bit confusing. However, I feel he thrives on being intentionally unclear to grift his audience so...
This! Made me feel a little sick watching
So THEY should be submitting to YOU! According to that Analysis! .
"A Scorned. NEGRO-PEAN. FeMaLe." 😩😩😩😭😭😭
Smh...I read this in his exact tone and voice 😭😭😭😭
Thanks for hosting the all male panel. The level of emotional immaturity and lack of BASIC knowledge among the males on that panel affirms and exposes some of the problems and issues in the BC. These males had problems with basic communication. Exhausting. No one normal wants to deal with this kind of s in their personal life and on a daily basis.
I was so confused about Umar’s points! After a while of listening about the energy of African vibration sounds crazy!!! I just can’t take him seriously at this point!!!
I wish I was in the chat because I’m up at 4am leaving all these comments in Teemus’ comment section 🤣
At this point, it’s not a joke anymore it’s not laughable. Black women need to get mad and reject these men. We’ve allowed them to be insulated and we’ve allowed them the guilt us to FAR that we’ve turned away from what’s necessary for the “queen’s” survival. Long live the Queen right??!! You know what countrymen do for their queens? They die for them, they fall on their swords for them, and Queens have the ability to bring down consequences for treasonous activities. If we don’t have that insulation nor the ability to protect ourselves, then this DEAD nation is not worth defending. Anti-black should not be a scarlet letter for us black women. Why? Because
PROBLACK DOES NOT INCLUDE US! PROBLACK DOES NOT INCLUDE US!
PROBLACK DOES NOT INCLUDE US!
lol since we casting spells and ish 🤣
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🤣🤣🤣 I'M PRO-MY HAPPINESS! I'M PRO-MY HAPPINESS! I'M PRO-MY HAPPINESS!
Since when did you need a PhD to understand the meaning of disparaging 😑what’s going on?
Getting thru Umar’s whole video was TAXING 😮💨. I need a break and a nap after having to hear him repeat his oh so profound teaching points over and over and over and over again😒. Chile.
I muted him every time.. There was just something evil and so negative about him and his words
@@graciouslyloved10 yea it does seem like some sort of cultish brainwashing going on. I really wouldn’t be surprised if whatever school he plans on opening up (if it ever does) turns out to be some kind of cult.
@@graciouslyloved10 Honestly! He's such a wicked opportunist and very predatory. I can see him having a cult in the future.
I fast-forwarded whenever his pie-hole opened up. I just wanted to hear wisdom from themis.
I am HERE for it whenever Themis goes into lawyer-mode!!! Even better when he gets righteously indignant!!! 😍🔥🤣Currently listening to discussion with Mello/men leading communities. *Also, please take care of yourself Themis! 🤎
Dr. JOHNSON REPEATS HIS POINTS,AS IF REPETITION MAKES HIS POINTS MORE PROFOUND.
We ALL have feminine AND masculine energy, and they are to be use when appropriate. Why is this such a big issue....
Because BP, in general, still don't have our HUMANITY settled to OURSELVES, much less anyone else...
His only push back is “it’s the system” but what is he doin to fight the system? Nothing
Dr Umar lost a lot of credibility with his analysis on this issue . WHERE IS THE SCHOOL?🤬🤬🤬🤬
RUclips recommended this video. I'll be watching it in installments, but just the very beginning. Watching and reacting to Paula cooking her mom's famous friend chicken was 😭😭😭
Now he says one and four black women in America will get married. What happens when the three out of four leave America and choose to marry abroad?!? This is why Ralph, Richard , banks, and the alike promote International marriage, especially for black women.❤
Well if 3 and 4 bw get married, then bw would start being viewed as personally successful. The narrative would change but researchers would scrutinize divorce statitics. If BW divorce more then they would highlight that. The trump card would be 3 our of 4 marrying and staying married for life. That's the sweet spot.
I am learning from your content. Thank you, for providing valuable content.
It's the faces that Themis makes that are sending me 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I don’t think there is anything wrong with black women dating out. BM are doing it 2 to 3 times the rate we are. Go where you’re celebrated! FIND YOUR EQUAL! Expand your options and stop MULING!
5:10:30 As someone who mentors hundreds of children I do my very best to be mindful of my temperament. It is imperative that black women work diligently to fight against the urge to be mean and impatient when engaging with children. For some women this is difficult. They have no partner to help raise their children. But if this cycle can be broken, it may go a long way in dismantling the generational dysfunction. Also, was born and raised NOI (nation of Islam). Self reliance is the cornerstone of this sect of Muslims.
I agree op. I was fortunate enough to have a mom who was supportive and nurturing of me and my siblings. Letting us take our time whilst making mistakes but also guiding us. We weren’t brought up in the Nation of Islam but she just loved being a mother. I’m also a teacher because of her. She was also a young mother as well. Having me (her first child) at 19 years old. Her mother was a teen mom and wasn’t a patient mother but she got better with her grandchildren. I also was raised in a two parent home and my mother worked as well.
@@ハワルドスタンテシヤ you were blessed. Women like yourself should take that experience and foster relationships with struggling kids IF the spirit so moves you.
@@newaveride3396 I'm working on owning a center in my community.
@@newaveride3396 I am fortunate enough to have both of my parents be nurturing.
@@ハワルドスタンテシヤ let me know if you need any guidance as I have opened two in the last few years. I’m going to open the first black owned science and arts school in my region. You may pick my brain if you would like for resources and such.
I did read the book, and while I do not agree with everything, Ralph, Richard Bank stated it is a fact that black women are struggling unnecessarily, and black women should consider all of her options globally in order to save her life in that of her lineage
4:44:03 So many red flags. He said whenever he hears a woman talk about whatever she’s talking about, he basically disregarding what ever she says. He only finds issue that the blame isn’t place on women rather than men.
Actually…. I won’t be surprised if the story of the black boy asking him that question is true.
I have heard many BP (especially BM) from certain multiple segments……who were using “marriage is white people” or the way it is done in the West is not how BP and their ancestors did it.
I’m a Gen Xer, so the narrative may have slightly changed, but it was definitely a talking point amongst BP at certain point.
Question is should black woman go thier whole life and NEVER be allowed to be LOVED by anyone ?I dnt know what you want BW to do . BM not all but BM are showing hatred towards their own . Wat do you want them to do ???Sit n wait for BM to come back when they are in thier 50's? It's SO sad. Once again BW will be blamed for choosing other race .
A black women shouldn’t give her womb to any Man of any race who dehumanizes her❤ she should be wise in choosing a man who came from places and nations that never enslaved her people❤
All I hear is excuses!!!!!
Nothing but excuses ‼️‼️‼️‼️