@Jack Strawb Hall of Fame is just a museum. Having a plaque there or not doesn't change anything . If you watch the game you don't need some self important sportswriters to tell you who was great. My favorite players growing up were Dave Parker, Dale Murphy, Mario Soto and Eric Davis. They'll probably never get in the HoF and it makes no difference to me if they do or not.
Sorry, I love the sport of baseball far more than any one player. Baseball is better than Pete Rose. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and he knew the consequences if caught! They did (and still do) make it crystal clear to ALL players the harsh and final cost for crossing that line. This is a no brainer....no Pete Rose, never.
Pete Rose is nothing, stats mean nothing because he was not a man. He knew the rules of game and he still violated them didn't he? It takes an idiot to see the guy as a wonderful person. You remember Charles Manson? You must think he is great also? Remember Manson never touched any of the people he spent his life in prison for killing. I can see you have no respect for this country do you You love those who have the same respect for rules as you do, @@toyman81
Pete Rose has many character flaws, but as person growing up in the 70s whose first love was baseball, I really enjoy listening to him talk about the game I grew up loving.
Sparky Anderson: "Pat him on the ass. Kick him in the ass. Or leave him alone. Don't pat someone who needs a kick. Don't kick someone who needs a pat."
That Perez story was funny as hell. Pete Rose was/is great for baseball. He just couldn't let his lie go. He's not the first one in the world to live a lie. Let the man in the HOF. Rose has some demons, don't we all. He's payed and then some. Let him have one more day in the sun. It would make millions of people happy.
I don't think the price is considered as having been paid until he actually acts contrite about the whole thing. He's still managed to be somewhat defiant, when all he really needed to do is quietly taken his punishment. If he'd done that the ban would have been lifted at least a decade or so ago.
He bet on his team to lose and managed the game in order to win his own bet. Sit with that. Think about how it goes against any and all rules of the game.. I love Pete Rose the player and the retired ambassador of the game, but he was player/manager when he bet against his own team… He’s going to live the rest of his life in baseball purgatory. Just like all the Steroid era players who will never see the golden gates of the HOF for one thing… cheating.
@@TheFunkybert And even if he'd bet on his own team, it impacts the product between the lines, dictating managing decisions rather than allowing the game to unfold organically. Even if he had a running bet on them to win every game all season, suddenly you're going a little too deep into that bullpen - a little too often - when you should probably be more or less cutting bait when you're down six going into the 7th. The impact on the on-field product is why the various forms of cheating get you banned (and the HOF decided on its own to tie a ban to ineligibility). That's why it doesn't really matter how horrible of a person a guy was off the field, historically, when it comes to getting in.
Man. I'd just start with Sparky & let Pete take it from there. This man should be managing right now. Wish he were leading the Giants. Wasn't metrics that brought home three rings.
Absolutely Agree... So he liked to bet a little Big F-ing Deal He bet on his team to WIN!!! These sports writers are too full of themselves. Put Pete Rose in the HOF!!!
@@EnriqueRodriguez-kx1yo You're exactly right... He bet on his team to win and he always played to win! These sports writers are pure B.S. for keeping Pete Rose out of the HOF!
The Reds had no bottom of the lineup, except for the pitcher. I can't imagine trying to pitch to a team where the fucking second baseman was a home run threat. Also, and this is the key to any big scoring team, the Reds knew how to play slash and run baseball. Men on base causes havoc, home runs clear the bases and free the pitcher from worry. Even if he gets yanked, the reliever comes in with a clean slate. "You know what a home run is?... a rally killer." - Sparky Anderson
Morgan was the Curt Flood of the Reds.....perpetual chip on the shoulder. He could play though. As good as this team was physically, they were even better mentally. They all knew they're roles, and they played unselfishly while complementing each other. They pushed each other in good ways. Must have been baseball nirvana to be a part of that clubhouse. Loose, fun, competitive, pranksters, oh, and a pretty good manager to boot. Let's not forget the coaches and all the other support staff.........and the cincy fans were proud of their teams, and i'm sure the boys loved playing for them. I can't imagine what the other teams were thinking when they realized Foster was joining that awesome lineup. As an opposing pitcher, who do you pitch to? Even their starting pitchers could hit. They were strong 1-8 . That's why they were called the great eight. Rose, Morgan, Bench, Perez, Foster, Griffey, Concepcion, Geronimo............How would you like to be Sparky Anderson and to be able to fill that lineup card every day? Forget Murderers Row, this lineup is the best in history IMO. The poor Dodgers, as good as they were, tried to contend at the same time with the Reds in the early to mid seventies, but were just overshadowed. Garvey, Lopes, Russell, Cey, Yeager, Smith, Monday, Baker.....they would have been in the playoffs every year, had it not been for the Reds. What a great era for baseball. And I think the Pirates could have been there in the mix too, had they not lost Clemente.
Good stuff. The Hall is not really that important to me without "Charlie Hustle". Pete Invented the Head First slide. When he got walked .......HE RAN TO FIRST BASE and rounded the bag just so the defense would have to think about Pete. All Star Games at many positions. """""HIT KING"""""".We all make mistakes, but on the field ne is a Hall of Fame . Enough said. Go Pete 💥⚾
Where did you get that "He invented the head first slide" I was making head first slides in the middle 50's, I don't recall who I saw doing it before hand, but i've got scars on my knees from rocky fields in Japan, where I was playing.
Caught Pete alone once... asked him a specific question about his minor league ball career... picks up his chair, turns it towards me, and goes: "Well ok! We got a real baseball guy here..." We talked 30 minutes straight about baseball before we both got pulled away.
As great as the others were, I'll always believe Morgan was the guy that made it the Big Red Machine...His intelligence, his toughness, and his diplomatic skills on a team with big egos bringing them together.
Yeah well, his numbers were great, but with Foster, Bench & Perez putting up the power numbers they did, Rose and Griffey hitting over .300 every year and Concepcion right behind them.....pretty damn hard to single out one man in that lineup and say he was the key.
You're absolutely right about that... just look at the reds fall off... and the strong correlation with Joe Morgan injured seasons in particular 1978...
The best moment of Petey's career, which NOBODY talks about, is when that rocket grounder hit that pebble aside of third base in 1977 at Wriggly Field. Ball probably has an exit velocity of 120 MPH and takes a zigzag ping off a fairly large pebble. Hits Pete in the scrotum, hits the ground, bounces back up and cracks him atwix the eyes. He has the presence of mind to pick it up and throw to Perez to get the out. Absolutely the best moment.
Watching the big red machine and the Dodgers play on tv in the seventies. Tom Seaver vs Don Sutton. Lopes, Morgan, Cey, Garvey, Perez, Yeager, Bench Foster. Baker, Sparky and Lasorda. Great way to spend a Saturday afternoon
Hands down Pete Rose is a Hall of Famer; he gambled (never against himself or his team) and that cost him a spot. If that standard was applied to other athletes then Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley would never make it to Basketballs HOF..
Even though we've watered down the baseball HOF considerably in the last two decades, its standard is still head and shoulders above what they use for basketball and football. I wouldn't want to change that.
@@cobbler88 I agree with your take on the HOF for baseball and my one bone with the BBWAA is that they voted in Roberto Alomar yet Rose is not eligible.
@@wolfgangflywheel4307 The spitter? 🤣 I'm not sure the writers themselves have a say in the matter. The Hall of Fame itself is what decided to tie eligibility for the hall to eligibility in MLB. That seems to stop the process before it would even get to the writers. As of about 15 years ago the word was that there's no way the veterans committee would vote him in. But because of the ban, he may actually still have around 12 to 15 years to be voted in by the writers themselves. And even if that didn't work, the veterans committee is going to have suffered so much attrition by the time the matter gets to it that it may be filled more with people who played in generations after Rose than those who played with and before him.
Say what you will about Pete. Right or wrong his gambling and his unwillingness to admit it likely cost him the hall forever..... those are the consequences and I won't argue that either way. But as a player and a manager nobody....nobody lived baseball, loved playing the game, and loved competing more than Pete. He was a joy to watch just for his work ethic and hustle alone....
There are players in the hall who did steroids. There are players who gambled but didn't get caught. Rose got caught. He has paid his price. If he were just a star player, maybe don't put him in the hall. But this is Charlie Hustle, the best hitter of all time. It is time for him to get his rightful place in the Hall !
I don't think he should've ever been DQ'ed. I fully support Bart Giamatti's decision to ban him from baseball. He knew what he was doing, and that Landis quote had been hanging in locker rooms since the 1920's. But to me the HOF is to blame here. They banned suspended players after Rose was suspended. You can question his ethics, but not his accomplishments.
Pete Rose was an accomplished hitter with a lifetime average of .303 despite not hitting for power. He has the most hits ever with 4256 in his career. But I must say that 14,000 at-bats is far more impressive than hitting at a .303 clip. He was an average defensive player. His determination, and clutch contact-hitting, made up for a lot of that. As a manager, He had a 412-373 record in his six years with a .525 W-L percentage.
Can say what you want about Pete.....the dude is rattling off names from the minors like it was yesterday & giving them props. Name one other ball player of Rose's stature who does that?
It's always interesting to scroll through the comment boards when these Pete Rose stories come out. A few thoughts: -It's nice to see that no one is comparing Pete' to "Shoeless" Joe Jackson. That's apples and oranges. -MLB has nothing to do with whether he gets enshrined. That's on the Baseball HOF, then likely the veterans committee which, last I heard, was not keen on voting Pete in. That being said, those guys have been dying off for awhile now. -It doesn't matter which team you bet on. It compromises the integrity of the product between the lines. You just can't have that. -A lot of current members of the HOF had skeletons in their closets. But if they didn't impact the on-field product, the're not very relevant. Neither are the often lower standards for the HOFs of other sports. -Contrary to what a lot of folks seem to believe, Pete DID seem to be a fairly good manager on the field. That's a bit different than being a great coach. I think he likes the idea of being involved with MLB more than he enjoys coaching. He could have coached at various other levels over the past few decades, but doesn't seem to have really wanted to do so. This isn't coming from a Pete hater. Growing up in the 70s, it was pretty much Pete, Reggie and George Brett before we hit the offense explosion that came with the proliferation of steroids. It's been long enough and I'd be fine if he was allowed in ... except he's never really acted contrite regarding actually believing he was doing anything wrong. Had he simply chosen to quietly accept his ban and maybe found ways to work in the background to enhance his rep, he'd have been in more than a decade ago. But he's never really done that. He's been defiant and at no shortage of words when it comes to criticizing the folks who imposed the ban. It's precious that so many pretend that it doesn't matter to them - that Pete's in THEIR personal HOF, and that's all that matters. That doesn't seem to be all that matters to Pete. I still think he can get in during his lifetime if he started a fairly open-ended goodwill tour now. Attrition will clear out most of the people on the committee who would vote against him. But he's going to have to stop doing things like setting up autograph tables in Cooperstown during HOF weekend first. I fear that only at the end is he going to recognize how simple it all would have been. Now we can all go back to the other 363-plus days a year where none of us gives a thought to Pete Rose.
Dave Bristol never had a pitching staff worthwhile. The Reds traded Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas who turned into a big bust making it the worst trade ever. Sammy Ellis had one good year and then began to throw his fast ball down the middle becoming Home Run Sammy. Tony Cloninger was a better hitter than a pitcher. You never knew what you were going to get. One Saturday he pitched against the Padres and couldn't get anybody out. So the next day in the doubleheader, Bristol started him again and he pitched a shutout. I think the pitching was often so bad that one game in Philadelphia at Connie Mack, the Reds won 19 - 17. It'd be a hoot for Rose to talk about that experience.
The astros cheat, get caught, and are not stripped of the championship. That entire team should have been banned from baseball., what the dud was worse than what Rose did. Baseball sucks now!
It's bullshit that he's not in the HOF.. MLB banned him, but it's not the MLB Hall of Fame.. it's the Baseball Hall of Fame...just stop the b.s. and recognize his contributions to the game of baseball
so in the news we find that one of the charles manson murder gang who did some horrible murders is getting out of the joint , but pete rose who only bet on baseball is still not allowed into the hall of fame !
Pete's interviews are priceless.
They are. Aside from his reputation, he knows his shit when it comes to baseball and his stories are amazing.
@@rayjr62 Watching Pete give 2 greats batting lessons is one of my favorite all time baseball moments. ruclips.net/video/Yae1KxRSq0g/видео.html
One of the greatest baseball minds ever.
Could listen to Pete Rose talk baseball for hours. He should be in the HOF by tomorrow morning.
No
@Jack Strawb Hall of Fame is just a museum. Having a plaque there or not doesn't change anything . If you watch the game you don't need some self important sportswriters to tell you who was great. My favorite players growing up were Dave Parker, Dale Murphy, Mario Soto and Eric Davis. They'll probably never get in the HoF and it makes no difference to me if they do or not.
Sorry, I love the sport of baseball far more than any one player. Baseball is better than Pete Rose. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and he knew the consequences if caught! They did (and still do) make it crystal clear to ALL players the harsh and final cost for crossing that line. This is a no brainer....no Pete Rose, never.
@Jack Strawb he was still eligible for the Hall when he got suspended. They changed the enshrinement rules to keep him out. Your comment is shit.
If he'd have just taken his medicine and not behaved like an a-hole, he would have been in at least a decade ago.
His numbers, can't be denied.
Pete rose is great. I absolutely can listen to him talk baseball for hours.
Sparky Anderson Was A Dam Good Manger For The Reds, And The 1984 Tigers
Yes. And the reds did him wrong
Wire to wire in '84. Who does that? Sparky one amazing manager.
Damn.
the ole days of baseball . i was 8 in 68 and started following baseball ...
Bo knows football, and Pete KNOWS Baseball.
pete knows gambling and his gambling broke the laws of Baseball. Seems he didn't know Baseball that well.
@@garyfinger294 Look at his statistics as a player, oh he knows baseball,
Pete Rose is nothing, stats mean nothing because he was not a man. He knew the rules of game and he still violated them didn't he? It takes an idiot to see the guy as a wonderful person. You remember Charles Manson? You must think he is great also? Remember Manson never touched any of the people he spent his life in prison for killing. I can see you have no respect for this country do you You love those who have the same respect for rules as you do, @@toyman81
Agreed. Pete is so SMART it’s sad he screwed himself.
1980 Pete Rose with the Phillies I thought was one of his greatest seasons ever.
This man is so sharp. Very intelligent. I’m Canadian and loved it when he played for the Expos.Pete Rose was a grinder.
Pete sat with Tony Perez for 3 hours and no idea what he said......lol....freaking Pete Rose is a riot.
Pete Rose has many character flaws, but as person growing up in the 70s whose first love was baseball, I really enjoy listening to him talk about the game I grew up loving.
He's himself. The only thing I don't like about him is that he never mentions his daughter. I met her and she's really nice. Looks similar to him.
I really enjoy Pete Rose. Always wish him the best. HOF someday.
Sparky Anderson: "Pat him on the ass. Kick him in the ass. Or leave him alone. Don't pat someone who needs a kick. Don't kick someone who needs a pat."
Good advice right there. I honestly have never heard that before
I was there in Auburn NY watching him play at 19 for Geneva and I was 9 and I was thrilled even back then 1960.
Pete Rose has some kind of memory.
Pete for HOF
Pete the Ambassador of Baseball
Pete best baseball knowledge / stories EVER!
That Perez story was funny as hell. Pete Rose was/is great for baseball. He just couldn't let his lie go. He's not the first one in the world to live a lie. Let the man in the HOF. Rose has some demons, don't we all. He's payed and then some. Let him have one more day in the sun. It would make millions of people happy.
I don't think the price is considered as having been paid until he actually acts contrite about the whole thing. He's still managed to be somewhat defiant, when all he really needed to do is quietly taken his punishment. If he'd done that the ban would have been lifted at least a decade or so ago.
There are too many stupid people alive! When they die, hes in!!
@@KnockOffBeingFat If he had actually ever been contrite, he would have been in at least 10 years ago. But Pete's got to be Pete. 🤷♂️
He bet on his team to lose and managed the game in order to win his own bet.
Sit with that.
Think about how it goes against any and all rules of the game..
I love Pete Rose the player and the retired ambassador of the game, but he was player/manager when he bet against his own team…
He’s going to live the rest of his life in baseball purgatory.
Just like all the Steroid era players who will never see the golden gates of the HOF for one thing… cheating.
@@TheFunkybert And even if he'd bet on his own team, it impacts the product between the lines, dictating managing decisions rather than allowing the game to unfold organically.
Even if he had a running bet on them to win every game all season, suddenly you're going a little too deep into that bullpen - a little too often - when you should probably be more or less cutting bait when you're down six going into the 7th.
The impact on the on-field product is why the various forms of cheating get you banned (and the HOF decided on its own to tie a ban to ineligibility). That's why it doesn't really matter how horrible of a person a guy was off the field, historically, when it comes to getting in.
I don’t care what anyone says Pete rose is a hall of famer
A lot of people didn't see Pete play. Best pound for pound player ever.
He gets in posthumously......if at all.
This man ran to first on a BB. Who does that? He served his time. Belongs in the Hall.
Hall of fame gambler maybe....can't be both
Hall of Fame Jackass. Keeps blowing every shot to get it in, because his massive ego won’t let him fess up to his wrongdoing.
Priceless stuff !!
Quit chiming in. Just let Pete talk. He doesn't need any help. It's annoying. Quit trying to impress me with your knowledge.
I'm with you. Just shut up and let Pete talk. Also, cool # 14.
Man. I'd just start with Sparky & let Pete take it from there. This man should be managing right now. Wish he were leading the Giants. Wasn't metrics that brought home three rings.
Deserves to be in the hall of fame. Should have been elected in 2021.... baseball needs to do this
Man has 4200 hits in the majors. Get him in the hall of fame. If the owner of the Black Sox can be in the hall of fame, so can Pete Rose.
Absolutely Agree... So he liked to bet a little Big F-ing Deal He bet on his team to WIN!!! These sports writers are too full of themselves. Put Pete Rose in the HOF!!!
@@jeffbayne15 that's exactly what I think. If he ever did bet, it was to win!!!
@@EnriqueRodriguez-kx1yo You're exactly right... He bet on his team to win and he always played to win! These sports writers are pure B.S. for keeping Pete Rose out of the HOF!
@@jeffbayne15 🙏
@@jeffbayne15 it doesn't matter which team you bet on. Placing a bet still compromises the integrity of the product on the field.
The Reds had no bottom of the lineup, except for the pitcher. I can't imagine trying to pitch to a team where the fucking second baseman was a home run threat. Also, and this is the key to any big scoring team, the Reds knew how to play slash and run baseball. Men on base causes havoc, home runs clear the bases and free the pitcher from worry. Even if he gets yanked, the reliever comes in with a clean slate.
"You know what a home run is?... a rally killer." - Sparky Anderson
Great comment and quote. Very true.
Don Gullett was a great hitting pitcher too.
Pressure base running, along with clutch power hitters, and unselfish productive non power hitters putting the ball in play moving runners
All great teams are built with strength”down the middle,” pitcher, catcher, 2nd, 3rd base , and center field. Reds had em’ all covered!
I mean, 3B isn't actually down the middle.
Dont forget timely Hitting and great defense from Concepcion and Geronimo! Concepcion should be in the HOF
Gold Gloves up the middle with Bench, Concepcion, Morgan and Geronimo. That team also had great speed/base running.
Who is the guy interviewing Pete - Arnold Horshack?
Morgan was the Curt Flood of the Reds.....perpetual chip on the shoulder. He could play though. As good as this team was physically, they were even better mentally. They all knew they're roles, and they played unselfishly while complementing each other. They pushed each other in good ways. Must have been baseball nirvana to be a part of that clubhouse. Loose, fun, competitive, pranksters, oh, and a pretty good manager to boot.
Let's not forget the coaches and all the other support staff.........and the cincy fans were proud of their teams, and i'm sure the boys loved playing for them.
I can't imagine what the other teams were thinking when they realized Foster was joining that awesome lineup. As an opposing pitcher, who do you pitch to? Even their starting pitchers could hit. They were strong 1-8 . That's why they were called the great eight.
Rose, Morgan, Bench, Perez, Foster, Griffey, Concepcion, Geronimo............How would you like to be Sparky Anderson and to be able to fill that lineup card every day?
Forget Murderers Row, this lineup is the best in history IMO. The poor Dodgers, as good as they were, tried to contend at the same time with the Reds in the early to mid seventies, but were just overshadowed. Garvey, Lopes, Russell, Cey, Yeager, Smith, Monday, Baker.....they would have been in the playoffs every year, had it not been for the Reds. What a great era for baseball. And I think the Pirates could have been there in the mix too, had they not lost Clemente.
Good stuff. The Hall is not really that important to me without "Charlie Hustle". Pete Invented the Head First slide. When he got walked .......HE RAN TO FIRST BASE and rounded the bag just so the defense would have to think about Pete. All Star Games at many positions. """""HIT KING"""""".We all make mistakes, but on the field ne is a Hall of Fame . Enough said. Go Pete 💥⚾
No kidding. Knew half the game was played in one's head. Winning at any price. Just like Reggie. Game sense & intelligence kick in.
No kidding. Knew half the game was played in one's head. Winning at any price. Just like Reggie. Game sense & intelligence kick in.
Where did you get that "He invented the head first slide" I was making head first slides in the middle 50's, I don't recall who I saw doing it before hand, but i've got scars on my knees from rocky fields in Japan, where I was playing.
Love Pete rose,,love baseball,, hell of a player ..hall of fame,, 👍✌️👌⚾️
Caught Pete alone once... asked him a specific question about his minor league ball career... picks up his chair, turns it towards me, and goes: "Well ok! We got a real baseball guy here..." We talked 30 minutes straight about baseball before we both got pulled away.
That's great
Rose is the all-time hits leader in MLB, and he was the 3rd best player on the Big Red Machine.
... The ending dialogue about Tony Perez made me Laugh My Phuckin' Ass Off !!! ... lol ...
he has such a capacity for numbers
Sharpe as a tack!! Pete you are a Hall Of Famer is REAL baseball fans minds!!!
Joe Morgan was a great commentator for the Giants.
Pete Rose 🌹 unquestionably the epitome of MLB professional player !
As great as the others were, I'll always believe Morgan was the guy that made it the Big Red Machine...His intelligence, his toughness, and his diplomatic skills on a team with big egos bringing them together.
Yeah well, his numbers were great, but with Foster, Bench & Perez putting up the power numbers they did, Rose and Griffey hitting over .300 every year and Concepcion right behind them.....pretty damn hard to single out one man in that lineup and say he was the key.
The whole damn team should be in the Hall!! Except maybe a few pitchers...
Perez, I, grew up in Cincy, his personality and humor kept the team together. Once they traded Tony, adios.
You're absolutely right about that... just look at the reds fall off... and the strong correlation with Joe Morgan injured seasons in particular 1978...
Are you a relative of Morgan s ?
Foster was the final piece in the Big Red Machine puzzle.
The Big Red Machine wasn't complete until Joe Morgan.
Used to love baseball. Used to...
Best in MLB history.... if Pete is not in the HOF.... you don’t need one
Best ever? Um okay.
So great to listen to him. Its amazing when you think that Reds team, with all that talent, didn't win more championships before 75-76
This is to all you writers who have Never made a mistake, Let Pete In. Let Pete In. LET PETE IN!!!!!!
The best moment of Petey's career, which NOBODY talks about, is when that rocket grounder hit that pebble aside of third base in 1977 at Wriggly Field. Ball probably has an exit velocity of 120 MPH and takes a zigzag ping off a fairly large pebble. Hits Pete in the scrotum, hits the ground, bounces back up and cracks him atwix the eyes. He has the presence of mind to pick it up and throw to Perez to get the out. Absolutely the best moment.
Only one problem with your story.... Perez wasn't on the Reds in 1977.
Pete rose belongs in the hall of fame
His memory is Alien!!!
Put Pete in the Hall of Fame, now!
Pete Rose is the greatest.
This man should be in the Hall of Fame shame on baseball
Enough already. He's done his time. Put the man in the HOF. I guarantee you, even when he bet, he played the game square. Even if he lost the bet.
Except that you really can't guarantee that.
pete hasn't served his time as he is banned for life. Do you understand what that means? The man doesn't belong in the Hall even after his death.
I always thought Joe Morgan would've been one helluva' MLB manager, under the right circumstances...
We had him as a broadcaster and colour commentator on TV
@@tomdouglas6082 He was my favorite color commentator, because I always learned from him.
He'd be ideal today. After all, he had a nasty tendency to see racism around every corner as a broadcaster.
@@Zane_Zaminsky I don't think you can call him a "color commentator" now. That's "a racism." 🤣
@@cobbler88 it's called "being redundant" lol
Hall of Famer Pete Rose. Most interesting man in baseball TODAY. And he is 115 years old!
Watching the big red machine and the Dodgers play on tv in the seventies. Tom Seaver vs Don Sutton. Lopes, Morgan, Cey, Garvey, Perez, Yeager, Bench Foster. Baker, Sparky and Lasorda. Great way to spend a Saturday afternoon
Jimmy Leland and Sparky Anderson were the managers i respected the most.
Pete rose is the smartest baseball man on the planet indeed it’s a shame he still would be managing
Pete is Baseball.
Memory like a steel trap. This guy is baseball.
As a Dodger fan I can honestly say I hated The Big Red Machine. Damn they were good!
He must have a photographic memory. Constantly putting out dates and number. Mind blowing.
In my era, the 1st "offensive" 2nd baseman I took an interest in, was Tommy Herr in 1985...St.Louis lost the WS 4-3 that year.
Was Rose the last player-manager?
yup
Hands down Pete Rose is a Hall of Famer; he gambled (never against himself or his team) and that cost him a spot. If that standard was applied to other athletes then Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley would never make it to Basketballs HOF..
The hell with Jim Gray too!!
Even though we've watered down the baseball HOF considerably in the last two decades, its standard is still head and shoulders above what they use for basketball and football. I wouldn't want to change that.
@@cobbler88 I agree with your take on the HOF for baseball and my one bone with the BBWAA is that they voted in Roberto Alomar yet Rose is not eligible.
@@wolfgangflywheel4307 The spitter? 🤣
I'm not sure the writers themselves have a say in the matter. The Hall of Fame itself is what decided to tie eligibility for the hall to eligibility in MLB. That seems to stop the process before it would even get to the writers. As of about 15 years ago the word was that there's no way the veterans committee would vote him in. But because of the ban, he may actually still have around 12 to 15 years to be voted in by the writers themselves. And even if that didn't work, the veterans committee is going to have suffered so much attrition by the time the matter gets to it that it may be filled more with people who played in generations after Rose than those who played with and before him.
I knew the answer would be Morgan. Not a doubt in my mind!
All I know is this guys HOF induction is 25 - 30 years late
May be it will change with the pandemics...
@@EnriqueRodriguez-kx1yo most likely will be inducted after he passes on. Pete knows that I think.
@@carlosfryer3887 do you think post mortem? He deserves better.
Agreed.
If only there was some reason I could think of as to why MLB banned him, right?
Looks a lot like roberto duran... probably just as tough.
Uh oh.....the cancel culture has to come for Pete Rose for saying he still can’t understand Tony Perez after 59 years.
and yet the two of them have been friends all that time.
This announcer talks to dam much..let Rose talk..i hate that
Say what you will about Pete. Right or wrong his gambling and his unwillingness to admit it likely cost him the hall forever..... those are the consequences and I won't argue that either way. But as a player and a manager nobody....nobody lived baseball, loved playing the game, and loved competing more than Pete. He was a joy to watch just for his work ethic and hustle alone....
Regardless how one feels about Pete Rose, when he speaks, people listen.
Time to let him in the Hall of Fame, There needs to be forgiveness at some point in time. One of the greatest Baseball Players OF ALL TIME.
That guy interviewing Pete is annoying.
Michael Ward I kept asking myself if he was real.
@@vestibulate I think he was. I don't see how Pete tolerated him.
Awful. He almost ruined that interview with his interruptions.
I thought he was going to say himself! LOL
Pete is still the smartest player in baseball
The is no baseball hall of fame without the all time hits leader .
I forget the host heres name but good Lord stop interrupting the man, I think Pete was annoyed by it too.
There are players in the hall who did steroids. There are players who gambled but didn't get caught. Rose got caught. He has paid his price.
If he were just a star player, maybe don't put him in the hall. But this is Charlie Hustle, the best hitter of all time. It is time for him to get his rightful place in the Hall !
I don't think he should've ever been DQ'ed. I fully support Bart Giamatti's decision to ban him from baseball. He knew what he was doing, and that Landis quote had been hanging in locker rooms since the 1920's. But to me the HOF is to blame here. They banned suspended players after Rose was suspended. You can question his ethics, but not his accomplishments.
Pete Rose was an accomplished hitter with a lifetime average of .303 despite not hitting for power. He has the most hits ever with 4256 in his career. But I must say that 14,000 at-bats is far more impressive than hitting at a .303 clip. He was an average defensive player. His determination, and clutch contact-hitting, made up for a lot of that. As a manager, He had a 412-373 record in his six years with a .525 W-L percentage.
Tany Pérez no habla inglés pero Pete no habla español.
"Baseball been very very good to me"
Can say what you want about Pete.....the dude is rattling off names from the minors like it was yesterday & giving them props. Name one other ball player of Rose's stature who does that?
How many Reds came through the old Geneva NY club ?
It's always interesting to scroll through the comment boards when these Pete Rose stories come out.
A few thoughts:
-It's nice to see that no one is comparing Pete' to "Shoeless" Joe Jackson. That's apples and oranges.
-MLB has nothing to do with whether he gets enshrined. That's on the Baseball HOF, then likely the veterans committee which, last I heard, was not keen on voting Pete in. That being said, those guys have been dying off for awhile now.
-It doesn't matter which team you bet on. It compromises the integrity of the product between the lines. You just can't have that.
-A lot of current members of the HOF had skeletons in their closets. But if they didn't impact the on-field product, the're not very relevant. Neither are the often lower standards for the HOFs of other sports.
-Contrary to what a lot of folks seem to believe, Pete DID seem to be a fairly good manager on the field. That's a bit different than being a great coach. I think he likes the idea of being involved with MLB more than he enjoys coaching. He could have coached at various other levels over the past few decades, but doesn't seem to have really wanted to do so.
This isn't coming from a Pete hater. Growing up in the 70s, it was pretty much Pete, Reggie and George Brett before we hit the offense explosion that came with the proliferation of steroids. It's been long enough and I'd be fine if he was allowed in ... except he's never really acted contrite regarding actually believing he was doing anything wrong. Had he simply chosen to quietly accept his ban and maybe found ways to work in the background to enhance his rep, he'd have been in more than a decade ago. But he's never really done that. He's been defiant and at no shortage of words when it comes to criticizing the folks who imposed the ban.
It's precious that so many pretend that it doesn't matter to them - that Pete's in THEIR personal HOF, and that's all that matters. That doesn't seem to be all that matters to Pete. I still think he can get in during his lifetime if he started a fairly open-ended goodwill tour now. Attrition will clear out most of the people on the committee who would vote against him. But he's going to have to stop doing things like setting up autograph tables in Cooperstown during HOF weekend first. I fear that only at the end is he going to recognize how simple it all would have been.
Now we can all go back to the other 363-plus days a year where none of us gives a thought to Pete Rose.
Macon Peaches…did they play where the Macon Braves played?
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Pete Rose: WWE Hall of Fame (class of 2004)
I dont know anyone who loves baseball as much as Pete Rose. He's pretty f'ing smart as well. Should be I the hall....
I've always thought Rose was a great interview.
The best interview is when the host says, "Pete, tell me about..." and then shuts up for the next hour. This guy ain't it.
We're losing all these guys.
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I haven't watched the video yet, but I suspect it's Bench.
Dave Bristol never had a pitching staff worthwhile. The Reds traded Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas who turned into a big bust making it the worst trade ever. Sammy Ellis had one good year and then began to throw his fast ball down the middle becoming Home Run Sammy. Tony Cloninger was a better hitter than a pitcher. You never knew what you were going to get. One Saturday he pitched against the Padres and couldn't get anybody out. So the next day in the doubleheader, Bristol started him again and he pitched a shutout. I think the pitching was often so bad that one game in Philadelphia at Connie Mack, the Reds won 19 - 17. It'd be a hoot for Rose to talk about that experience.
This guy interviewing Rose sucks. Non-stop interrupting Pete while he was trying to explain stuff and tell stories.
May be annoying in this clip but let’s show some respect, “this guy” is Chris Maddog Russo one of the most influential people in sports radio
The astros cheat, get caught, and are not stripped of the championship. That entire team should have been banned from baseball., what the dud was worse than what Rose did. Baseball sucks now!
I knew it had to be Morgan.
It's bullshit that he's not in the HOF.. MLB banned him, but it's not the MLB Hall of Fame.. it's the Baseball Hall of Fame...just stop the b.s. and recognize his contributions to the game of baseball
Sparky is known because of the players he managed.Not because of his Managing of his players
Interviewer interrupting all the time
so in the news we find that one of the charles manson murder gang who did some horrible murders is getting out of the joint , but pete rose who only bet on baseball is still not allowed into the hall of fame !
Who knows baseball better than Pete Rose?