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"Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls" is the album of my life!
I can hear that. I've seen them twice in the early 1980s and both times they played most of this album. Amazing.
What an amazing cut. This is Pat and Lyle’s tribute to the innovative jazz keyboardist Bill Evans, who influenced them both greatly. Evans died September 15, 1980… hence the name of this song. Pat and Lyle released the “As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls” album, which included this song, in 1981.
I remember the first time I heard this - on vinyl of course - many years ago. I was awestruck by its beauty and almost heartbreaking tone. Rick Beato, an authority on music if there ever was one, called ”September Fifteenth” the most beautiful song he knows.
I was fortunate enough to hear this live back in the early 2000s. Live, Pat and Lyle ended the cut on a single plucked guitar note. I can still remember that moment, the audience mesmerized in absolute silence and near total darkness, the only light softly shining in blues, purples and occasionally white on two masterful musicians, Pat’s plucking hand slowly rising high into the air. That single note rang out much more softly than even the sound of the building’s air handling system, and it slowly, tenderly, faded to silence.
Beautiful memory, thanks for sharing.
ThX for the info. Bill Evans was so great. Inspiration abounds.
PMG have a true understanding of musical Dynamics like no other artists. Yes especially in the live sense - I saw them together I think 4 times over a decade starting with First Circle. You can hear a pin drop in the audience when Pat is playing Acoustic guitar. For me, Lyle Mays is one of the best and he is the hero of this band ensemble. Ric Beato's story about seeing them in NY (where he was a Usher at the venue to get into the show) and the subsequent all nighter with his roommate and Lyle playing chess till the we hours. I can never get enough PMG. I am grateful to have an older brother turn me onto this music in the later 70's when I was just barely a teenager. The music was a bit advanced for me but I grew into it and it changed my life. I have to admit Pat is my all time favorite Guitarist next to Jimi Hendrix. I love every single story and insight regarding Pat and Lyle. Thank you for sharing
I heard Pat played this at Lyle Mays funeral.😢 He is tremendously missed.RIP Lyle....there will never be another keyboardist like you.Gods speed.
All the tracks on As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls are brilliant. Listen to the whole album (‘’It's for You‘’ is a must).
Hey Nick and Lex you guys should make this a regular thing like say Metheny Mays Mondays 👍🏼
RIP Lyle Mays
Quite possibly my favorite song by Metheny and Mays. Lyle's solo is so brilliant and the entire composition is just incredible.
Great track, amazing album, thanks for the reaction. RIP Lyle Mays - he was unique
This entire album is a beauty… both Pat and Lyle shine, as well as the great Nana Vasconcelos in percussion and vocals, although he doesn’t participate in this specific track… Love your reaction…
And on a different note, I am 66, and it’s striking to see you both following a similar path of musical discovery, 40 years later… Nick was reacting yesterday to Arvo Pärt’s Fratres, today to this beauty, both pieces have accompanied me for 40 years or so…
And of course I also started with Yes and prog, Yes being my all time number one…
If you want an easy way to discover a magnificent musical world, listen to ANYTHING from the ECM label, that’s where Metheny, Corea, Keith. Jarrett, Pärt, Terje Rypdal (the greatest guitarist that you probably never heard of), Jan Garbarek (the greatest tenor sax player you probably never heard of) , and the list keeps going and going… 40 years ago when there was no RUclips and no Internet, that was one way to find new music… ECM!
Y por supuesto, siendo de Buenos Aires, rock nacional!!!
Love and peace
P.S.And if you have heard Terje Rypdal and Jan Garbarek, then you know what I am talking about! ❤
Thank you for sharing about this, I was thinking about the ECM label- in Ric Beato's interview PM mentioned the recording with ECM- that usually they did every thing in a live room all in one track, no over dubs or large production. ECM was like a Boutique label for the modern (contemporary) Jazz aficionado. There are no bad artists on ECM, actually all of them are Virtuosos! I feel kindred spirit in that I was pre teen hearing Art Rock (which was renamed into Prog) that started with Rush, then Yes and Genesis, Crimson, ELP et al thanks to my older Brother Joe. PMG came a few years later around 78 or so.
I mentioned in the comments above I saw the First Circle show in UT Austin in 86 and it changed my life about everything especially Music. I listen to PMG before I do my own solo music performance to get into a space of both quality and improv. I feel people that are into PM are very deep minded and heart centered who identify music on a different level than entertainment, I might even say spiritual.
I love that YT has a open forum to share our love and I so much enjoy seeing a younger generation discovering Music like PMG. I feel spoiled that heard them at such a young age then developed a relationship to the music and was able hear subsequent records coming out like: Still Life Talking, Letter From Home, Secret Story, We Live Here, Speaking of now etc. and then going to see the shows when the concerts came into ATX. I am so Grateful for this Music
@@cozmicpfunk I was able to see PM a few years ago here in my adopted hometown of Dallas, around the time of his Unity Band, it was absolutely fantastic! The interplay, the intensity, the sheer joy that they had on stage, at some point after playing 3 or 4 themes, Pat tells the audience “uh, I am supposed to tell you the names of the songs, but we’re having so much fun here that we rather play “… 😀
And I loved the Rick Beato interview, especially when PM says “well, compared to Bach, we all suck 😂”
Thank you for allowing Metheny's music to touch you so deeply. This beautiful album has been in my heart since college in the early 80s. I love watching the music of Pat, Lyle, and Naná live on.
Pat and Lyle matching perfect.
This is one of my absolute favorite Metheny albums. I grew up close to Wichita and later lived around Pat's home in Kansas City. His music always takes me home - it conjures visions of the prairies for me, as crazy as that might sound.
Thanks so much for reacting to this song. The entire album is a masterpiece! Pat and Lyle's composing and playing... just phenomenal. Lyle's piano toward the end affects my soul every time. I've had the immense pleasure of seeing them in concert whenever they came around. Miss Lyle.
Also, it's Chilean independence day coming up on the 18th of September. Un abrazo de un chileno en California!
Ahhh un saludo y abrazo cálido! 🇨🇱
Gracias por la info y por si aún no nos sigues en el canal Latino búscanos y hemos reaccionado y varias obras de arte chilenas!! @NicknlexLatino ❤️❤️
Hola chicos! qué hermoso compartir esta emoción con ustedes.. este disco lo gasté, hace muchos años, escuchándolo en mi auto por la autopista mientras manejaba yendo a mi trabajo luego de mi divorcio, dejando a mis 3 hijos en casa... imaginando mi nueva vida.. disfrutando esta maravilla de música, aprovechando el momento para pensar y entender lo que sentía, sabiendo que en minutos iba a escuchar cumbia, regetton, etc (trabajaba en una disquería de barrio) y en ese contexto no pensás... por eso me trae muchas emociones escucharlo de nuevo y ver la reacción de ustedes! Qué alegría que podamos compartirlo! Gracias a esos momentos con Pat en el auto, pude salir adelante jajaja Un abrazo desde la ciudad de Buenos Aires! 😄
Absolutely stunning! Both Pat and Lyle are so unique and gifted. Love them!
So glad you got around to experiencing this exquisite piece of music - truly outstanding and so moving.
Yes finally!
Nick Nana Vasconcello was one of the most important percussionists of Brazil! Pat Methiny brought hin specially for this recording and also for the tour and the recorcing of the double live album TRAVELS!! Yes he is very important for his contribution in both albums!!!
I saw Pat in Toronto in the early 80's outdoor show. The band came out as members playing in a marching band with there respected instruments or close to. It was the coolest introduction to a show I've ever seen. Awesome concert.
That had to have been the First Circle Tour with "Forward March" :)
Yes it was. Thanks I had forgotten the name. The whole band was on fire that night. Lyle Mays blew my mind. Total awesome.
6:13 Goosebumps .... Flashbacks to late 70's......being introduced to prog rock and jazz fusion......
Dedicated to łate Bill Evans, one of the greatest pazz pianist.
Yes!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ More More More!!!!!! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
great album - i remember listening to this on vinyl when it came out... never heard anything like before, and was amazed
Tears fall from my eyes every single time I hear this song since 1981. Mr Bill Evans must be proud to be such a wonderful inspiration for this two geniuses.
Absolutely beautiful... I wouldn't expect anything less.
Love Pat Metheny! ❤️
No words for this. Both of these men are gifts from God.
oh my God, this is so beautiful, it made me stop working, this literally made me cry my eyes out, holy cow, I will be buying this CD, Happy Mexican Independence Day to NicknLex and to all Mexicans throughout the world, I am so proud of my Mexican heritage, my pop pop, Conception Joseph Alferez would absolutely Love this song, I Love you and miss you pop pop, God Bless you and God Bless you NicknLex, you have completely made my day, Thank you, ❤
The title track is the finest music Pat Metheny ever created. And the rest of this album are individual masterpieces.
@@charleswagner2984 I just actually bought the CD, I Love it
How this song reaches into the heavens ❤❤❤❤
It made me cry too
@@gloriaortiz1227 absolutely
Nick and Lex, I think you would love "Cavatina" the theme from "The Deer Hunter" played on the classical guitar by John Williams.
Saw the Wichita Falls concert in 1982 at Montreal Jazz Festival. This album really changed my perception of music. Sept 15 is Lyle’s masterpiece emotional performance! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi guys, the first time I heard this was at my first Pat Metheny concert in 1982. They also played As Falls Wichita... and I was overwhelmed by the amazing music in that show. The next year I was in the first row gazing at Lyle's piano keys almost every minute. I always thought this group to be The Lyle Mays Band.
Me too! Did you see them in Austin?
As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls was one of many that fed my brain. As I listened to this LP back then, I became very emotional because of its intricate beauty.
Just when I felt my fried brain couldn't take more, this LP fried it more.
Brain fried by its elegant beauty. I've seen these guys twice play this. And the title track also, which brings great joy as much as this. Absolutely gorgeous.
Admirable !
What a great album it blew everyone away when it came out. My friends and I were all expecting something more like the Pat Metheny group and American Garage, and this was a total departure very cool. Glad you got a chance to get it into your life as soon as you can get the rest of the album in your sound stream. It's worth it. This Might be a good epic pic except that would leave the amazing Alexia out of the mix. Great reaction as always it’s a real empathetic beautiful and moving album altogether. It brings out lots of challenging emotions as was in evidence. ❤️❤️
I have listened to this so many times over the decades and it still can bring me to tears - especially as I see your appropriate emotional reactions. I read that the closing piano solo section is completely improvised - Lyle Mays is not improving over a chord structure, but doing what he called "compositional improvisation" and in the session Pat was visually indicating to him to keep going farther with the ideas that draw on the various melodies that have come before, while Pat listened for the best time to come back in and close things out with that beautiful melody on the guitar.
Rush is my all time favorite. Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays are next. Love Wichita Falls. The entire album is fantastic. Thanks NicknLex.
Love this album I have it, tugs at our heartstrings❤ There are so many brilliant Pat Metheny albums try “First Circle” too- it’s so joyful. ( ps Black Sabbath and Rush are epic).
Nice hearing this. Great use of so many chords in making this an emotional experience.
Rick Beato called this “the most beautiful song I know”
Holy beauty, this song is phenomenal.
The title track is as amazing as this, but more ambitious. I LOVE this whole album. It's in my top 20 albums in all music history.
This is sooo beautiful. I understand the emotion you are feeling from this Nick and Lex, I felt it too🧡 I would love to listen to this while walking in nature 🍃🍂
I can’t believe I’ve this album for over 40 years!
Metheny was an incredible bridge for me coming from Joni… and he took me through many phases as he, of course, went through them.
All of the great collabs he did, all of the dazzling musicians he invited to create music…. Just broadened my horizons and made me investigate older jazz artists.
Unfortunately only saw him once about 25 years ago… and I swear I hallucinated during that show, the music brought a deluge of images and color to me… and I wasn’t even doing drugs!
Glad you loved this!
Really looking forward to your reaction to the title track. It's absolutely brilliant.
I am always in the Mood for Pat Metheny- truly miss Lyle, he is a tremendous musician and is one of the GOAT
Forgot to mention this is stylistic precursor intro to "First Circle and If I Could" from First Circle which is also one of my favorite albums in the entire Universe. I saw PMG in 1986 at UT Austin and it was one of the best concerts ever...
Love that album so much !!! Still have chills after all these years.
You will love Crossing (1984) by Oregon.
That was ethereal magic! I have to go back and listen to this album, It was one I didn't pay too much attention to. Thanks for the nudge.
The whole album will blow your minds! Can't wait for you to react to the title track!
This was Pat and Lyle's tribute to their idol, jazz pianist Bill Evans, who died Sept. 15, 1980.
Thank you for that, it's wonderful!
I highly recommend the side-long piece from the same album, that is an amazing journey
Oh Yes, I like a lot of Pat Metheny music and this tune is just awesome! Beautiful tune!
For reference check out Bill Evans solo with Tony Bennett “Some Other Time”. Beautiful; his influence and affect on them clear…
My most beloved Metheny & Mays recording & song from it. Still love this album so much. Takes me back with tears of when this was my soundtrack that captured a beautiful time in my life through such sweet gentle, melodic and delicate emotions with touches of Brazil which impacted me deeply.
I became an instant, lifelong Rush fan when a friend played 2112 for me in 1980. But I became a Pat Metheny fan in 1979 when PMG dropped their second album, American Garage. I was only 12 and had no idea who Pat was. My mom had exposed me mostly to the classic rock of the 60's and 70s, and also some jazzy stuff like George Benson. As a native Angeleno kid I listened to the local rock radio stations, KMET and KLOS. No Metheny there! But my mom acquired American Garage and played the hell out of it (thankfully!) I've seen Pat numerous times in concert over the decades, many of them with my mom.
I am a big fan of many guitarists such as Wes, Jim Hall, Mahavishnu, Allan Holdsworth, Strunz & Farah, Shawn Lane, Alex Lifeson, Vernon Reid, Randy Rhoads, SRV, EJ, Satch, Mike Stern, Steve Morse, John Pettrucci, Vai, Molly Tuttle, Tommy Emmanuel, Matteo Mancuso, Mateus Asato, Tosin Abasi...The list goes on.
But...Pat is my all time favorite guitarist. Hands down. As much as I love Allan Holdsworth and Mike Stern, it's still really not even close.
My mom passed away almost 5 years ago. But I'm forever grateful for the gift she gave me by relentlessly spinning American Garage on her turntable, 45 years ago. That opened the door for me to become a serious jazz fan by the time I started college. And it was not long before I discovered "As Falls Wichita...". That album and "New Chautauqua" especially captured my imagination early on and still move me deep inside to this day.
"September 15" is a perfect Metheny/Mays composition - as clear an expression of the magic between them as you'll ever hear. The intro is simple and spare but there's so much intricate movement with all the chord changes. And when they slip into the main theme in 6/8 it's light and joyous, like two best friends running together through a meadow of wildflowers in Spring. And look at the way Pat effortlessly slips back to single note improv as Lyle begins his solo. As for that solo...Lyle played the piano as if he was conducting an entire orchestra, revisiting thematic elements, layering in flowing chord structures, rising and cascading, breaking down to single piercing notes. That dude was otherworldly. Rick Beato has a 15 min YT video dedicated to this song, well worth the watch.
Thanks for this great video.
A first time listen for me, and it was beautiful. You opened my ears to the Pat Metheny Group a while ago Nick and Alexia, and I bought the 'Imaginary Day' album which I love! This will be the next deep dive. Thanks so much!!
The irony of your Tshirts is, (for me) Sabbath and Rush were the bands in high school that I gravitated to, before.. I saw the Pat Metheny Group... live in Montreal..in front of 100 000 people.. after that show, there was no going back. 😊 Beauty was released ❤
Yeah, you two have got to react to As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls.
NicknLex,
Love your channel. I was just notified of your new PM & LM September 15th review and I immediately watched it. I don’t know if you read many of the comments you recieve, but in this case I thought I’d at least give it a shot as I am CERTAIN you’ll enjoy it.
I have told my wife that if I am lying in bed with only 8:14 left to live I’d not only like to spend it listening to this song, but the LIVE version I am providing a link to immediately below.
Not only do you get to watch Pat and Lyle perform it, but Lyles solo is expanded over the version you just reviewed.
Then, Rick Beato, (whose channel I can’t imagine you're not aware of), recently released a segment on his feelings for this tune. As usual, he goes into detail as to why. I am sure you’ll enjoy watching this as well.
Finally, I am attaching a link to another LIVE ballad of their’s which, (A Map of The World), if it’s not "as good” as September 15th, it’s a close second. I am sure you’ll enjoy it as well.
September 15th - LIVE
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Rick Beato - Breaking Down Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays Most Beautiful Song
ruclips.net/video/qLhE720V4Co/видео.htmlsi=lxKo6_ZRQHmWo6qm
A Map of the World - In Her Family - LIVE
ruclips.net/video/EQSVqMdTVNE/видео.htmlsi=eTEGFTwWyixhJ3R3
My absolute favorite Matheny album… atmospheric and brilliant.
Lyle Mays had the biggest damn hands on that keyboard - he is a great player - saw them from the first row balcony in Austin and could look over his shoulder at his hands moving - I am pretty sure Lyle was playing with the One O'Clock Lab Band at University of North Texas when I graduated high school in 1973
The chord progression at beginning of this piece is complex and remains so beautifull.
I love this song. So beautiful.
been one of my all time favorite pieces of music since college(late 80's)
Pat one of my favourites ! Listen to 'Letters from Home' Fantastic album! anyway nice T-shirts !🙏
Good Morning everyone, I'm listening to this reaction again this morning because something in my heart and soul told me you have to listen to this beautiful music again and again, no matter how many times you listen to this music you feel the same reaction, it captivates your heart and soul, have the Kleenex ready, I ordered this CD, delivery is Saturday September 21st and I can't wait to listen to the whole CD and enjoy such incredibly beautiful music, Thank you NicknLex and whoever you are who suggested this heavenly music, I Love it, Thank you for introducing me to Pat Metheny and his great music, Thank you again, Love to the NicknLex family, ❤
So glad you are enjoying again with us Dave! 💖 This was something we wanted to give to the community and ourselves, wasn’t a request. Also love to hear that you purchased the CD, way to support the musicians!! ☺️☺️ Makes our hearts happy!! 💕 Have a wonderful day!
@@NicknLex Thank you, I can't wait to listen to the CD, you have a wonderful day too, Love you guys ❤
Wow. Never thought I’d see a reaction to this album. This was my only Pat Metheny album but it went directly to my spirit and soul. Just one of those albums. I will have to go relisten to the whole thing now.
You guys should definitely watch the movie Fandango if you haven't seen it, particularly the last 5-10 minutes of the film, where this tune and the subsequent one on Metheny's album, "It's For You" make for the most beautiful and moving cinematic accompaniment to the film story that I've ever seen in my life. You want to talk about tears being shed! Been listening to this album for over 40 years now, it never gets old or tiresome.
Not sure if it's Pat or Lyle - ? To me that's part of the beauty of this whole piece, because they sometimes play in unison and then move apart and then come together again, and I think it's also a testament to Manfred Eicher's production that the piano and nylon-string guitar are so amazingly blended that it's possible to ask the question. Guys, for my money, the title track is good in parts - there's some plodding to get through - so do check out It's For You and Ozark, which are both wonderful.
Oh! The title track is a phenomenally masterpiece. Way up there with Awaken, Piano Concerto Number One (ELP), Echos, Close To The Edge, and Karn Evil 9.
lush warm relaxing
I first heard pat metheny in a music soundtrack score to the film fandango featuring Kevin Costner loved his music ever since.
Slow songs with sparse orchestration are the hardest to get right. This opening was right!
You guys need to check out Pat Metheny and Charlie Haden's collaboration LP, Beyond the Missouri Sky. jUST Pat and his guitar and Charlie and his upright bass. Sublime
Estuvo por Argentina; un coloso!!! Saludos desde Temperley, BsAs.
In the memory of Bill Evans
Maybe try Pat Metheny and Silje Neergaard " tell me where you're going"
Una maravilla.
Great choice. You do need to check out Rick Beato's analysis of this piece. I've loved the album since I got my vinyl copy on the the day it was released. Still got it!
I think you're describing "dynamics" which is the softness or intensity of notes.
Oh, God....this song... Oh wow. This song breaks me. I have deep, deep, hard memories related to this song, and to this album. I was turned on to this album by my girlfriend, at the time (just after the album came out. In fact, she turned me on to Pat Metheny, so I guess I have to thank her for that), and she ended up breaking my heart (not the last time that would happen). So this song hurts but it is just so beautiful. Thank you, Lyle Mays, for the gorgeous piano work. Thank you for reacting to this. This album lives in my soul.
Have listened to a lot of Metheny/Mays since I first heard Last Train Home (brilliant feel throughout that track). However my favourite Metheny and Mays album isn’t even by them! Bob Curnow recorded an album of Big Band arrangements of the music of Metheny and Mays, it shouldn’t work surely a Big Band can’t handle the subtlety and ethereal sound world necessary to successfully interpret this music but I guarantee you once you’ve heard the Dream of the return or First Circle you’ll be sold on both the concept and it’s realisation. A beautiful album and expertly crafted by a musician with a full understanding of what M & M were all about.
Try Short Tales of the Black Forest.......Al Dimeola and Chick Corea...off the album Land Of the Midnight Sun.....you won't be disappointed
Y/ou should listen to "It's for You", its fantastic...it was in the movie Fandango with Kevin Costner
Good flick.
You guys keep killing it, great job! Now I know that you like Yes, but I haven't seen you react to "Changes" from the 90125 album yet. It's a fantastic track from an outstanding album, so I highly recommend you try it. Here is the link to the studio version, which is where you need to start. Rock it! ruclips.net/video/eh1dVptApmc/видео.htmlsi=doMK1e7qjjEuO9Rb
Nick cut his hair!
Yes!!!
Beautiful composition. The first min 50 secs very reminiscent of some of the soundtrack of ' The Deer Hunter .' This whole piece is just mesmerising. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Glasgow, Scotland.
Hi there lovers, been awhile.I went to Less Summit high school with Pat.I graduated in 1968, Pat graduated in 1972. We knew each other from orchestra. He lives in New York now. He used to come back to visit his parents be for they passed. I said hey a couple of times. He was always cordial but I don't think he remembered me. I think his younger brother Mike still lives out here somewhere. I think one time I mentioned he did an amazing interview with Rick Beato, check it out if you haven't already. Lex, been thinking about your back. Hope you're doing well....Hey Nick, you cut your hair why'd you do that man?!....love you two
Older brother Mike.
Thanks for the correction dude!
Alright, I'm confused. In this reaction you clearly have shorter hair. Then I watched a newer video where your hair mysteriously reappeared. Are you guys screwing with the date and time stamps? Yea I noticed. Need some explanation!!