lol then you have to spend the whole time you watch the game desperately trying to avoid the comments so you don't get spoilers because his longer videos are deceiving af sometimes. I legit start doing mental math and think about how long he usually extends games if its a sweep, etc
It faked me out I thought they played a second series but then I heard him repeat what he said, then I realized he put on screen that it was repeated when I wasn’t looking lol It’s a good idea though
I’m so happy you did this. I’ve been so curious how this would go. I want to have a series of this. Get more and more pros with the top people in extra game modes. Dropshot pros would be dope. Would love to see Wolff and Nico more
LOL yeah actual pros please. This lethymar and terment players or whatever they’re names are literally lost against ppl i would verse in platinum! absolutely pathetic...
I feel like leth is one of the smartest players in rl, and doesnt look like hes adapting fast enough. I wonder if pure mechanics would let jstn and squishy adapt faster than leth
Hoops is a very mechanical based game mode. Leth is more of a smart player than a mechanical player so his knowledge of regular rocket league doesn't help him much in hoops
This video was posted 9 months ago. RUclips just recommended it to me and as I watch it, I went into the actual game to see if I could find Nico and Wolff in Hoops leader board. 9 months later, right now, they’re top 1 and 2 in Hoops.
Lets take it one step further. I want the best hoops players vs the best rumbles players in a 2v2 hoops rumble match. Also great video jon, this is a really great idea and youre putting your connections in the rl scene to good use
The rumble players would get destroyed in hoops rumble. 10 seconds is a long time. I've played against (and beaten in a few occasions) Wolff and Nico in hoops and let me tell you...they have hoops down to a science. Not to mention how well they can read each other. They could probably win alone off of the kick off strategies. Again this is IF they play against the top 2 rumble ranked players.
Not sure why people think Torment and Leth looked that bad. They were getting more settled into the Hoops format with every game and I'm pretty confident a second series played straight after wouldn't have gone the same way. Would love to see this for the other extra game modes as well.
Cream147player I don’t get it either. I’m trying to understand the thought process honestly. “Wow 2 pro players that don’t play hoops adapted fast enough in only 3 games to nearly beat 2 of the best hoops players, losing to a 50/50 goal. Pro players got trashed”?? Idk.
Give credit where it's due. These guys just made very high level pros look like total scrubs. You can see they are very good players in general. Great decision making, very good mechanics and all around great players. I guarantee both of them are super solid in regular game modes as well.
@@descai10 yes they did. They were severely "out classed" throughout the series. Just look at how much time they had on offense, thats a solid indicator of being out classed. Nothing wrong with that because Leth and Torment probably never play hoops. Them going against pros shows exactly what kind of skill level they have. Pros being at the highest level of play should be able to adapt to any game mode because of their mechanics and decision making. Like I said before, those guys could most likely compete at a pro level in a normal game mode.
@@moose1164 I think you underrate the phrase "total scrubs". I never said they didn't get out classed, but they weren't anywhere near complete trash in comparison.
@@descai10 no they are not total scrubs but they did get get outclassed and that's how I meant to phrase it. It just surprised me of how dominate the made some of the world's best players look. I mean look at Torment. The guy played outta this world in the finals. He looked like the world's best player.
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Would love to see this with Dropshot, Johnny! I main Dropshot and I think if you got the top ranked players it would be a similar outcome to this match, the meta is so different to regular Soccar. Was really surprised to see that Wolff was using a Bat mobile as well, I did not think it would be a good car for hoops as it's so easy to power hit from the opponents backboard and allow a break away, but he absolutely killed it!
The correct way to calculate (or count if you don't want hard math) is to use the formula for the amount of combinations on kickoffs possible. You have 5 different spawning points, and 2 players who can spawn on 1 different from the other. The amount of different kickoffs possible is 5C2, which is 10 (you can have 10 different combinations by spreading 2 people over 5 places). 2 of those are bump-kickoffs, so it's a 1 in 5 chance to get one.
@@MatthewAndThings Ah yes that is true! I forgot. He was talking about the Friendship kickoff, that is what these calculations would be for. But the Fusion kickoff is only 1 specific combination of 2 places, so that would make it a 3/10 possibility then
This video peaked everyone's interest, but if you put them in a normal 2vs2 vs RLCS players and they get crushed what happens? Everyone will say "Yeah they suck at normal RL" which is exactly what Johnny said. Not gonna happen.
JohnnyBoi_i I saw this in the Twitch comments: Those 2 Hoops mains VS Leth and Torment in a regular Soccer game! It would be cool to see how they play in that :D
Yeah Johnny should do another match with two RLCS players that frequently play together like squishy and gimmick or kronovi and jknaps. And tell them ahead of time so they get some hoops practice beforehand. It'll probably be a different story compared to a sweep.
That was cool to see. Someone in the chat said they wanted to see them do a rematch in normal rocket league.. but that would be boring and pointless.. the reason this was cool, was to see what happens and how advantaged you are if you specialise in hoops at the top of the leader board, versus amazing top ranked normal rocket league players who are far less familiar with hoops (but have certain advantages of their own). If you wanna know who is better at normal rocket league.. it's not going to be surprising. If we wanted to see a proper game and how good they are at normal rocket league, then they would play 2 people who are not exactly tippy top tier in the world (definitely going to wanna tone that down a tad).
2v2 dropshot rlcs vs high elo, I think this will be very interesting because fir drop shot you have to be super fast, but high elo's are high elo's for a reason, and it would be a lot of fun because of cool plays
well johhny. you gotta use your power. jump start their career for them. host a $ tourney with all the other game mode stars. do it before someone else does fr. make all of you guys more views and some money flow. bring light to all the modes. get more rl fans. hoorah
I didn't think it would work at all, but he really makes it work. I main dropshot and I've found the batmobile is the best car for it because of its footprint and powershots, I would have thought those things would hurt you in hoops but obviously not...
It's funny how you said "the video length doesn't spoil the video" but if it's best of 5 and Nico and wolf are on 1 ,that means they need 2 more games to win, but you said "here are the last 2 replays of the game" thus spoiling the winners bcs 1+2 = 3 and you need 3 to win, gg tho, great video
i think prejumps are more common in hoops because the field is smaller so recovery time is shorter. not to mention shots have to have some arc to them to go in which obviously takes longer than boomers that go straight in. youre like never really out of the game in hoops
Thanks for having us on! It was a blast, we're ready when you want to throw some more at us
Well played guys!! You really deserve the spot of best hoops duo!!
Wolff no man, thank you
This was beautiful to watch. Thank you!
Why channel empy
two two boy because he’s not the real one
I love that you don’t spoil with video length
yeah i was like well it lasts more so they probably go to the fifth game, and then i got owned
lol then you have to spend the whole time you watch the game desperately trying to avoid the comments so you don't get spoilers because his longer videos are deceiving af sometimes. I legit start doing mental math and think about how long he usually extends games if its a sweep, etc
Good idea
So many ads though
It faked me out I thought they played a second series but then I heard him repeat what he said, then I realized he put on screen that it was repeated when I wasn’t looking lol
It’s a good idea though
Johnny boi:It’s easy to get gc in normal rl ....
Me a platinum player: *cries silently *
Same fam ill duo we can cry together
me as a gold :/
Platinum? I'm a silver
@@UrPPhard im champ 2 and still cri ;w;
Stephen Heinrich yessir
I’m so happy you did this. I’ve been so curious how this would go. I want to have a series of this. Get more and more pros with the top people in extra game modes. Dropshot pros would be dope. Would love to see Wolff and Nico more
Bretton Ledbetter stfu
Brayan Who hit you?
Edge Is Love, Edge Is Life what ?
LOL yeah actual pros please. This lethymar and terment players or whatever they’re names are literally lost against ppl i would verse in platinum! absolutely pathetic...
@@Fnordyy leth was like rank 1 for a long time. -_-
Nico and wolf against squishy and jstn plz
I'm down.
squishy rarely plays on johnnys stream so doubt it
I feel like leth is one of the smartest players in rl, and doesnt look like hes adapting fast enough. I wonder if pure mechanics would let jstn and squishy adapt faster than leth
Hoops is a very mechanical based game mode. Leth is more of a smart player than a mechanical player so his knowledge of regular rocket league doesn't help him much in hoops
i was about to comment the same
This video was posted 9 months ago. RUclips just recommended it to me and as I watch it, I went into the actual game to see if I could find Nico and Wolff in Hoops leader board. 9 months later, right now, they’re top 1 and 2 in Hoops.
17 months later and they're still 1 and 2...
Lmao wow, that's insane
Do this for every game mode
Snow Day has a small community
Neeeed to see Dropshot
Xternalz .-. Dropshot is worrisome. a few RLCS pros have a lot of practice on dropshot
I would love to see how different the top Snow Day players perform. Probably not very different from soccer but I'm sure they have some tricks
Agreed. We need more content with the new game modes. Finally something to keep RL fresh so people should take advantage of it.
Lets take it one step further. I want the best hoops players vs the best rumbles players in a 2v2 hoops rumble match.
Also great video jon, this is a really great idea and youre putting your connections in the rl scene to good use
Thomas Tran hoops players prob have advantage because a lot of the rumble strategies are reliant on the specific normal goal
@@Aggarius have you seen the rumble stadiums
The rumble players would get destroyed in hoops rumble. 10 seconds is a long time. I've played against (and beaten in a few occasions) Wolff and Nico in hoops and let me tell you...they have hoops down to a science. Not to mention how well they can read each other. They could probably win alone off of the kick off strategies. Again this is IF they play against the top 2 rumble ranked players.
Hoops players would win
Also dropshot rumble. Nutty shit.
These guys were great. I loved their chemistry and familiarity with the game mode. Hats off to their victory.
You should do this for dropshot and rumble too!
That bump kickoff, holy
Fusion baby woot woot
What'd this animal on your profile wtf?
I'd like to see a similar video for the other new ranked game modes.
This is the first time I've rooted against Leth in a long time.
Sameee
LGBT
Who'd have thought... Hoops becomes ranked and now pro hoops is my favorite content
I won’t lie to you, you had me fooled. I was convinced that Leth and Tor somehow made a comeback after seeing the video length. Always do this please.
dont comment this cuz you just spoiled it for me
Please cast more hoops! Get the rankedhoops guys in more! I reckon the RLCS pros will want revenge
Oh my god that was so awesome. I need to watch more ranked hoops. Those pro Hoops strats are SO fun to watch.
Really cool to see this. Thanks, Wolff and Nico, for the great demonstration of skill and experience you have with this game mode :)
It would be good to get Gimmick onto this, he used to play a lot of RH during the Muffin Men days, so it might be a little more competitive :)
By far my favorite video so far! Just earned another subscriber!!
Just have to throw out how I love how you stretch the video to not spoil the end because no one thinks about that. So thank you.
Not sure why people think Torment and Leth looked that bad. They were getting more settled into the Hoops format with every game and I'm pretty confident a second series played straight after wouldn't have gone the same way. Would love to see this for the other extra game modes as well.
Cream147player I don’t get it either. I’m trying to understand the thought process honestly. “Wow 2 pro players that don’t play hoops adapted fast enough in only 3 games to nearly beat 2 of the best hoops players, losing to a 50/50 goal. Pro players got trashed”?? Idk.
This was great! I'd love to see more extra mode high level play.
Give credit where it's due. These guys just made very high level pros look like total scrubs. You can see they are very good players in general. Great decision making, very good mechanics and all around great players. I guarantee both of them are super solid in regular game modes as well.
I do give them credit for the complete dominance they had
They didn't make the pros look like "total scrubs" other than the first match.
@@descai10 yes they did. They were severely "out classed" throughout the series. Just look at how much time they had on offense, thats a solid indicator of being out classed. Nothing wrong with that because Leth and Torment probably never play hoops. Them going against pros shows exactly what kind of skill level they have. Pros being at the highest level of play should be able to adapt to any game mode because of their mechanics and decision making. Like I said before, those guys could most likely compete at a pro level in a normal game mode.
@@moose1164 I think you underrate the phrase "total scrubs". I never said they didn't get out classed, but they weren't anywhere near complete trash in comparison.
@@descai10 no they are not total scrubs but they did get get outclassed and that's how I meant to phrase it. It just surprised me of how dominate the made some of the world's best players look. I mean look at Torment. The guy played outta this world in the finals. He looked like the world's best player.
As I was nearing end of third match I found myself saying "I haven't watched this guy before, he may be the type to artificially extend the video"
Thank you for adding the last two games on the end to not spoil the outcome
Even tho i had to quit the game what was my favorite and its still in my heart and im so happy that i can watch johny's stream and vids about my favorite players and stuff i really love your work (vids, streams) johnyboy😀
Would love to see this with Dropshot, Johnny! I main Dropshot and I think if you got the top ranked players it would be a similar outcome to this match, the meta is so different to regular Soccar.
Was really surprised to see that Wolff was using a Bat mobile as well, I did not think it would be a good car for hoops as it's so easy to power hit from the opponents backboard and allow a break away, but he absolutely killed it!
Love that you lengthened the video so we didn’t know the result!
The correct way to calculate (or count if you don't want hard math) is to use the formula for the amount of combinations on kickoffs possible. You have 5 different spawning points, and 2 players who can spawn on 1 different from the other. The amount of different kickoffs possible is 5C2, which is 10 (you can have 10 different combinations by spreading 2 people over 5 places). 2 of those are bump-kickoffs, so it's a 1 in 5 chance to get one.
Wouldn't 4 of them be bump kickoffs then? 2 side by side and 2 one behind the other?
@@MatthewAndThings Ah yes that is true! I forgot. He was talking about the Friendship kickoff, that is what these calculations would be for. But the Fusion kickoff is only 1 specific combination of 2 places, so that would make it a 3/10 possibility then
I saw Torment's video a few days ago, then I saw Lethamyr's and today I saw the actual stream replay
Whould love too see More NA rlcs try beat these guys. Hoops is really cool
Now this is rocket league
Do the best hoops player vs 2 pro players in a normal 2v2
Fairy and Squishy
whats the point?
This video peaked everyone's interest, but if you put them in a normal 2vs2 vs RLCS players and they get crushed what happens? Everyone will say "Yeah they suck at normal RL" which is exactly what Johnny said. Not gonna happen.
Was fun to see the different skill set needed. Even as pros, let and torment were over matched!
Johnny “ I just realized my tea is getting cold”
Me (an American)- “uhhhh yeah?”
You're a pretty solid youtuber bro. Subscribed
Johnny you know me too well i was looking at the video length LOL
JohnnyBoi_i I saw this in the Twitch comments: Those 2 Hoops mains VS Leth and Torment in a regular Soccer game! It would be cool to see how they play in that :D
That was awesome...
That was a great series!
2:00 "I'm very curious to know what ranks they are in just regular rocket league" the ultimate disrespect
great idea Johnny keep it up
As being a part of Rankedhoops.gg from day one before we even had a website. I'm greatly appreciative of everyone in the community!
this was super fun to watch!
adding the last two matches was really smart lol
Yeah Johnny should do another match with two RLCS players that frequently play together like squishy and gimmick or kronovi and jknaps. And tell them ahead of time so they get some hoops practice beforehand. It'll probably be a different story compared to a sweep.
This was very entertaining 👌
Great matches, still would like to know the other modes ranks the top ranked hoops players have.
Loving the vid's keep it up.
That was cool to see. Someone in the chat said they wanted to see them do a rematch in normal rocket league.. but that would be boring and pointless.. the reason this was cool, was to see what happens and how advantaged you are if you specialise in hoops at the top of the leader board, versus amazing top ranked normal rocket league players who are far less familiar with hoops (but have certain advantages of their own).
If you wanna know who is better at normal rocket league.. it's not going to be surprising. If we wanted to see a proper game and how good they are at normal rocket league, then they would play 2 people who are not exactly tippy top tier in the world (definitely going to wanna tone that down a tad).
25:53 🔥
Also at 10:55 because the video is looped.
@@WeberMentzel this dude just watched the whole video thinking it was all different matches 😂😂
Great concept.
I'm convinced Leth and Torment win if they win game 3. Some bad luck was the difference in that one. Well played by both teams.
this was really interesting to watch
We need more of this.
they should do a hoops side event at RLCS
great type of vid! make more please!
I went against wolf and nico a few months ago, they destroyed us I had no idea who they were but this is cool to see
They make Torment and Leth look like trash
PL4T1NUM H3R0 image this game in a soccar match
Gg
It would be the opposite of this, times10
In hoops
mate the beginning UHHHHMS gave me asmr tingles legit
Sounds like he's saying "Wilf"
Jerbear45 it’s cause he’s Canadian
you know how to keep it interesting John
We need more of nico and wolf for sure
Thanks for letting me understand with this video that I will never be a Pro 😂
Lmao. Lethamyr foresaw the NOSE to upload this.
Btw. Squishy next pls
22:30 Well, I think that I have a new god :D (not spoiling the results like this is insanely smart and I love it :)
Great fucking game, that was so good. Might be good to see other game modes like this. Love the Hoops tho
that kickoff bump is insane
2v2 dropshot rlcs vs high elo, I think this will be very interesting because fir drop shot you have to be super fast, but high elo's are high elo's for a reason, and it would be a lot of fun because of cool plays
Wow the additional footage threw me off. Quality edit bruv.
Pre jumping is common in hoops since u can easily block on target shots easily since if they take it below u their shot gets delayed
I would love to see the ranked hoops guys 1v1 here
These guys playing Hoops have a nice air control and wall jump shot.
10:58 best kickoff ever
Two of the smart content in the video
well johhny. you gotta use your power. jump start their career for them. host a $ tourney with all the other game mode stars. do it before someone else does fr. make all of you guys more views and some money flow. bring light to all the modes. get more rl fans. hoorah
Why is this leagues more entertaining to watch than any real sport on earth?
Great match. Btw, what rims does nico have on?
DLC wheels - WW5SP
Nice to see Wolff back in the batmobile
Have you done 2v2 with a Pro and non-pro together versus a Pro and non-pro? Would be pretty cool to see a Pro play with a gold player.
What Johnnys actually saying: Wolff
What his accent says: WiLfF
The batmobile is pretty op for hoops
I didn't think it would work at all, but he really makes it work. I main dropshot and I've found the batmobile is the best car for it because of its footprint and powershots, I would have thought those things would hurt you in hoops but obviously not...
Gotta play hoops now that looked so fun
These guys are awesome they save everything
Leth and Torment are flying from the fire....
From Nico and the Niners...
It's funny how you said "the video length doesn't spoil the video" but if it's best of 5 and Nico and wolf are on 1 ,that means they need 2 more games to win, but you said "here are the last 2 replays of the game" thus spoiling the winners bcs 1+2 = 3 and you need 3 to win, gg tho, great video
Imagine having a multi-mode tournament...like a RL Triathlon
Make this happen!
i think prejumps are more common in hoops because the field is smaller so recovery time is shorter. not to mention shots have to have some arc to them to go in which obviously takes longer than boomers that go straight in. youre like never really out of the game in hoops
Best 3 man squad for rumble vs the rizzle sizzle jizzle
7:37 "ye I do have a sex channel" 🤣
Haha, very smart with the video length :)
Hoops is madly underrated
Im in NA and can never seem to catch you streaming. What time do you usually start?
Mid-late evening BST.
epic kick off bump strats :=D
Dude the hoops ball is much cleaner than rocket leagues ball
No matter how good you are, never go against mains!
with leth and rapid recently beating nico and wolff can we see a rematch? cuz nico and wolff had played all day and were clapped.
Legend has it Johnny has never read through the comments.....🤭
If you would watch his videos, you'd know he doesn't get baited by things like this.
@@Raxerm he doesn't read it so how would he get baited anyway...
Lol I played Nico and Wolff in hoops before, got their sign too