I did not know that the 1VD had a "plastic" oil pickup. Interesting....concerning. Another job to add to the to do list for my 76 series. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Seems like even the best vehicles can be improved. I don't have a Cruiser but I do like your workshop. Not too many people have a workshop like the one you're using. If it's your, you're very lucky! For what it's worth, I'm into factory torque settings :)
Another excellent video Terry. On the to do list when I get back. Sitting here in Exmouth after a few days at South Lefroy and catching up with everything. I hope Canada is not too cold.
Thanks John, definitely worth doing. Canada is Canada in April. For your afternoon walk you have 5 jackets to choose from, and whatever one you pick will be wrong😉👍😎
Be interesting to see how that new plastic gauze felt compared to the old. Would it have been softer and more flexible before breaking?? Still seemed like it had some strength about it. I’m not totally convinced that was even an issue
Excellent video, I'll make sure i pass the link on. Only thing I'd add, is to recommend using a quality torque wrench. That way, all bolts are right every time. Specs will be in factory manual. Thanks again.
Not really sure Dan. Mine had 240,000km and as you saw in the video it was brittle as, so less than that. I’m going to replace mine every 100,000km going forward, but there is no science in my interval, it just feels about right. Cheers👍😎
What I'm wondering is how the plastic will behave with the new part. As thin as the filter is, it probably won't be much stronger. You also have to bear in mind that it is designed precisely for this purpose and has very controlled conditions. No UV radiation, no abnormal temperatures (as in my case always around 80C) and it is not interested in oil either (otherwise Toyota would certainly not use a plastic oil filter cap in the 200). But in any case an interesting video like all your other videos which have already helped me with some things on my 200 with his 2000km till 333.333km
The replacement is the same as what was removed, so it will behave the same as the original over time. That’s why I’m replacing it every 100,000km and treating it as a wear part or consumable. Cheers👍😎
Thanks for the kinda words Jim. Yes, I change it every 5000km, even when in the bush. My OCD takes over above 5000km, I get sweaty palms and I imagine little munchie critters damaging my engine🤣. It’s easy to do in the bush with a dollar store bucket as a drain pan. Use the oil containers to carry the used oil out in and dispose of properly. Cheers👍😎
I did the same job last June and replaced also oil filter cup and also crankcase breather all plastic/bakelit items. Not expensive and easy to replace and cheap insurance….could see any issue with the old parts but didnt cut open the pickup…might do it now and check 😊
Not specific to his vehicle, all personal stuff. Vehicle is going well and will feature in future videos. We did an FT swap in it late last year. Cheers👍😎
Thanks mate, that was truly helpful... glad you shared it. By the way, do you believe that an oil change is recommended after one year even though it did not hit the 5000 Km mark, and why?
I’m glad you found it useful mate. Re changing oil after one year, yes I would. There is no science behind why I say they other than “why not”. It’s cheap insurance with zero downside risk. I know fuel tanks get water from condensation in them from heating and cooling cycles over 12 months, why would oil in an infrequently used motor be any different🤔😎
Hi Terry Thanks for this video Super info at the right time Going to Toyota dealer next week to buy the metal filter housing and oil pick up and do the jobs next oil change. Any info why Toyota places the drain plug so high in the pan ?? This is where the the leftover oil always goes Thanks 🙏
Good stuff and wise move mate. I suspect the oil drain plug is high so that when changing the oil, the oil level never drops below the oil pickup. That way on an oil change you never lose prime, and the oil flows through the pump straight away. Cheers👍😎
Thanks Tony, I appreciate the kind words. Have a look in the comments section of my 200 Series oil change video. The part number has been shared there a number of times. Cheers👍😎
Thanks for this video Terry. My LC200 has done 176K so looks like I'm due for a replacement. I don't have a hoist or tools or confidence for this job. Would you trust Toyota to perform this service? I doubt they would clean and machine the sump like you did? I wonder if there's an after market no plastic part?
I worked at it with my razor blade. Just keep making passes, with the pressure on the steel pan side (so as not to damage the alloy block). It took a bit of doing but eventually each pass lets you get a fraction of a mm deeper in. Failing that, heat and the same razor blade technique might get you over the line. Cheers mate😎👍
Ok, i got it off without stuffing it, started by prizing the front passengers corner as it was easiest to access, once lifted a couple of mm was able to get a flexible putty knife in and work my way around. Leave the two nuts just hanging on so it doesn’t drop once loose. Came off pretty easy once started.
Terry, would it be beneficial during an “ordinary” oil change to use an oil sucker pump via the sump plug drain hole to remove most of that last undrainable 800 ml, and refill engine with more fresh oil each time. ??
I couldn’t hurt mate, but if you are performing regular oil changes (for me every 5000km), I don’t see the need. I suspect Toyota engineered it that way so the end of the oil pickup stays submerged during an oil change, and that way does not lose prime. Loss of prime would be potentially more damaging than less than 10% dirty oil in your clean oil. That’s my thoughts anyway. Good question. Cheers👍😎
Hey Jaffa. Love the videos. Just enquiring on if you have information on the difference in strainer replacement on the 70 series? From what I understand, the 70 is a different strainer and pan arrangement.
Hi Terry, I see you have the metal oil filter housing on yours, which oil filter cartridge do you use? The reason I ask is the genuine Toyota oil filter cartridge number is different for VDJ200 engine as against the genuine Toyota oil filter cartridge for the V8 Turbo Diesel engine as fitted to 79 Series utilities. I'd have thought they'd be the same cartridge but alas no, I'm hoping you can help me out. Cheers Dan
I’m not sure why the part numbers are different but I can confirm they look exactly the same. I use aftermarket Sakura filters and they too are identical. Go well Dan. Cheers👍😎
Bugger, just did an oil change yesterday, will have to wait a while before the next. Maybe by that time the pickups will be back in stock. Is that oil filter housing OEM, mine is plastic ?
It’s an aluminium unit off a 79 Series as I did not trust the Bakelite one these vehicles come with from factory. Details are in the oil change video in the 200 series maintenance playlist. Cheers😎👍
I wouldn't have put so much gasket goo. If some of that goo manages to break off it could end up blocking an oil squirter that cools the underside of the piston. I am surprised that the factory goo had so much squeezed out inside the sump. Good that you let the goo set for 24 hours.
Toyota manual calls for a sealant bead of 6mm which is what I applied. I’m confident it will be fine, I’ve been building engines for 40 years without issue but the point you raise is real with over application😎
Not yet mate but I have the EGR valve blocked off and a catch can fitted. The EGR blanking plate prevents sooty exhaust from getting into the intake track, and the catch can captures a lot of the oil vapours that mix with the soot and create that black goo. I’ll do it eventually but I suspect my intake track is cleaner than most for those reasons 😎👍
I did the sump inspection after I got my 200 with 105k on it. I found it to be a bitch to break the gasket seal to remove it, it's a bit of a patience job even when using a sharp paint scraper but likely worth it on a higher km engine. A gasket rather than a sealant would have made the job so much easier, well done Toyota, not.
Yep it’s a lesson in patience that’s for sure. I would rather have no gaskets and know that Toyota has very tight machined face tolerances, than sloppier tolerances filled by cork gaskets😉😎
Does anyone have an estimate of the expected costs for parts and labor involved in replacing the engine of a 2008 200 series. This inquiry excludes the cost of the engine itself. To pull out the old one and install a new complete engine. I'm in Western Australia
I worked for a Fleet Leasing company and prior to Covid we had a client hydra-lock a 1VD in a 70 series. At the time the engine replacement using a new crate motor via a Toyota dealer was circa $27k.
@@JafffaAdventures I’m sorry I’m new to your channel I’ve just subscribed as I’ve found some real handy tips from you thanks and I look forward to getting a few things done with my latest project 2016 Sahara
It could be a weight saving considering the oil filter cap is not metal like the 70 series. Can anyone tell me if the oil pick up is the same part in the 200 and the 70 series 1VD?
The stock of oil pick ups are about to become very low for a little while after watching this. Another great video.
Thanks Stu, I’m glad I got my pickup before the rush👍😎
Well, guess who's pulling his sump off 1200km early for a service! Thanks heaps Terry
My pleasure Matthew, and I think that’s a wise move mate. Cheers👍😎
I did not know that the 1VD had a "plastic" oil pickup. Interesting....concerning. Another job to add to the to do list for my 76 series. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
My pleasure mate. I did not know either until I was alerted to it👍😎
On the 70series it’s not quite as easy to access as they have a different sump arrangement.
But it is possible is it?
Seems like even the best vehicles can be improved. I don't have a Cruiser but I do like your workshop. Not too many people have a workshop like the one you're using. If it's your, you're very lucky!
For what it's worth, I'm into factory torque settings :)
I love my personal workshop and appreciate it every time I use it. I am indeed grateful, but worked hard all my life to get it👍😎
Another excellent video Terry. On the to do list when I get back. Sitting here in Exmouth after a few days at South Lefroy and catching up with everything. I hope Canada is not too cold.
Thanks John, definitely worth doing. Canada is Canada in April. For your afternoon walk you have 5 jackets to choose from, and whatever one you pick will be wrong😉👍😎
Be interesting to see how that new plastic gauze felt compared to the old. Would it have been softer and more flexible before breaking?? Still seemed like it had some strength about it. I’m not totally convinced that was even an issue
New screen was very pliable, old one crunchy but do your own research and make a determination whether it as an issue or not.
Excellent video, I'll make sure i pass the link on. Only thing I'd add, is to recommend using a quality torque wrench. That way, all bolts are right every time. Specs will be in factory manual. Thanks again.
Cool😎
Thanks Terry, I’ll be ordering a new pick up before my next service 👍
I think that’s a wise move mate, I’m sure your results will mirror mine. Cheers👍😎
Thanks terry. Great video. Had no idea about the strainer. My 200 has done 186000ks and i will be doing the replacement ASAP.
I think that’s a wise move mate, as you will see when you do the job yourself. Thanks for watching and commenting Steve, I sincerely appreciate it 👍😎
@@JafffaAdventures 👍
On the to-do list, when i hit the first 100k in the new engine. Cheers Terry
Good call mate, wise move👍😎
Another very interesting video, old mate. A bit bloody scary, as to the condition of that screen😮
Not wrong mate, was a big surprise to me👍
Once again you've come up with a great video mate. Just reminds me how much a hoist would help me do this kind of work.
Yes indeed, the hoist is awesome. Thanks for watching 😎👍
Seems like a good opportunity for some aftermarket manufacturer to make a metal gauze filter and pickup.
I agree Matt, I’d buy one😎👍
Great video! A damn shame the big T cheaped out on the oil pickup! it’s not as simple on the 79 series 👎🏼
I agree mate😎👍
Thanks for a great video. I'll get my mechanic to change the pickup next service.
Great idea mate, I would👍😎
Hi again Terry, At how many kilometres should you replace the oil pick up? Cheers Dan
Not really sure Dan. Mine had 240,000km and as you saw in the video it was brittle as, so less than that. I’m going to replace mine every 100,000km going forward, but there is no science in my interval, it just feels about right. Cheers👍😎
What I'm wondering is how the plastic will behave with the new part. As thin as the filter is, it probably won't be much stronger. You also have to bear in mind that it is designed precisely for this purpose and has very controlled conditions. No UV radiation, no abnormal temperatures (as in my case always around 80C) and it is not interested in oil either (otherwise Toyota would certainly not use a plastic oil filter cap in the 200).
But in any case an interesting video like all your other videos which have already helped me with some things on my 200 with his 2000km till 333.333km
The replacement is the same as what was removed, so it will behave the same as the original over time. That’s why I’m replacing it every 100,000km and treating it as a wear part or consumable. Cheers👍😎
Another great video Terry. In regards to your 5000kms oil change intervals, do you also do this when you go on your longer trips like on the CSR?
Thanks for the kinda words Jim. Yes, I change it every 5000km, even when in the bush. My OCD takes over above 5000km, I get sweaty palms and I imagine little munchie critters damaging my engine🤣. It’s easy to do in the bush with a dollar store bucket as a drain pan. Use the oil containers to carry the used oil out in and dispose of properly. Cheers👍😎
I did the same job last June and replaced also oil filter cup and also crankcase breather all plastic/bakelit items. Not expensive and easy to replace and cheap insurance….could see any issue with the old parts but didnt cut open the pickup…might do it now and check 😊
Good stuff John, thanks for sharing😎👍
My vehicle 1vd v8 had a knock sound the one working on it removed the injectors, when he returned them the vehicle is refused to start.
Not good, that’s for sure
Good info as usual Terry, cheers
Thanks Greg, I appreciate the kind words👍😎
Does Jacob with the red turbo 80 have socials? Haven't seen an update on that vehicle for a while now and i wanna see how that rig is going!!
Not specific to his vehicle, all personal stuff. Vehicle is going well and will feature in future videos. We did an FT swap in it late last year. Cheers👍😎
Thanks mate, that was truly helpful... glad you shared it. By the way, do you believe that an oil change is recommended after one year even though it did not hit the 5000 Km mark, and why?
I’m glad you found it useful mate. Re changing oil after one year, yes I would. There is no science behind why I say they other than “why not”. It’s cheap insurance with zero downside risk. I know fuel tanks get water from condensation in them from heating and cooling cycles over 12 months, why would oil in an infrequently used motor be any different🤔😎
Great video I never knew it was plastic either. What year 200 is this as I have 270k km on my 2014.
Mines a 2010 with 240k on the clock👍
Awesome Ep and lovely job Terry,
Thanks for the kind words Craig👍😎
Hmm, that's a worry. another job for me to do on my 79 series. what sort of RTV did you use
Yes mate, I was very surprised at what I found. I have used both the Toyota branded black and Permatex grey with great results for both. Cheers👍😎
Very interesting video mate, glad i dont have to worry about that pick up in my 200 series, because its a petrol.....or do I 😅
Now that could not answer mate. Thanks for watching Craig. Cheers😎👍
Hi Terry
Thanks for this video
Super info at the right time
Going to Toyota dealer next week to buy the metal filter housing and oil pick up and do the jobs next oil change.
Any info why Toyota places the drain plug so high in the pan ??
This is where the the leftover oil always goes
Thanks 🙏
Good stuff and wise move mate. I suspect the oil drain plug is high so that when changing the oil, the oil level never drops below the oil pickup. That way on an oil change you never lose prime, and the oil flows through the pump straight away. Cheers👍😎
@@JafffaAdventures yep, that would make reasonable sense while the engine oil pumps are not sucking masters.
@holgermuller2987 indeed 👍
All the little tips are great, 79 metal oil filter housing brilliant, would you have the part number?
Thanks Tony, I appreciate the kind words. Have a look in the comments section of my 200 Series oil change video. The part number has been shared there a number of times. Cheers👍😎
Well done, appreciate the advice.
All good Phillip😎👍
Thanks for this video Terry. My LC200 has done 176K so looks like I'm due for a replacement. I don't have a hoist or tools or confidence for this job. Would you trust Toyota to perform this service? I doubt they would clean and machine the sump like you did? I wonder if there's an after market no plastic part?
It’s not a difficult job so they should be fine to do it. I do not know of any aftermarket metal replacement. Cheers 👍😎
Terry I hope you put in extra oil to cover the 800 ml.
Mate, that’s a serious rookie error that I would never make👍😎
Hey Terry, and hints on how to get sump cover off, mine seems very stuck on, almost imposible to even get a razor in at all. Will some heat help it ?
I worked at it with my razor blade. Just keep making passes, with the pressure on the steel pan side (so as not to damage the alloy block). It took a bit of doing but eventually each pass lets you get a fraction of a mm deeper in. Failing that, heat and the same razor blade technique might get you over the line. Cheers mate😎👍
Ok, i got it off without stuffing it, started by prizing the front passengers corner as it was easiest to access, once lifted a couple of mm was able to get a flexible putty knife in and work my way around. Leave the two nuts just hanging on so it doesn’t drop once loose. Came off pretty easy once started.
Good stuff mate, well done 👍
Terry, would it be beneficial during an “ordinary” oil change to use an oil sucker pump via the sump plug drain hole to remove most of that last undrainable 800 ml, and refill engine with more fresh oil each time. ??
I couldn’t hurt mate, but if you are performing regular oil changes (for me every 5000km), I don’t see the need. I suspect Toyota engineered it that way so the end of the oil pickup stays submerged during an oil change, and that way does not lose prime. Loss of prime would be potentially more damaging than less than 10% dirty oil in your clean oil. That’s my thoughts anyway. Good question. Cheers👍😎
Hey Jaffa. Love the videos.
Just enquiring on if you have information on the difference in strainer replacement on the 70 series?
From what I understand, the 70 is a different strainer and pan arrangement.
Sorry mate, I am only familiar with the 200’s. Thanks for stopping by👍😎
@@JafffaAdventures no worries. Thank you.
Hi Terry, I see you have the metal oil filter housing on yours, which oil filter cartridge do you use? The reason I ask is the genuine Toyota oil filter cartridge number is different for VDJ200 engine as against the genuine Toyota oil filter cartridge for the V8 Turbo Diesel engine as fitted to 79 Series utilities. I'd have thought they'd be the same cartridge but alas no, I'm hoping you can help me out. Cheers Dan
I’m not sure why the part numbers are different but I can confirm they look exactly the same. I use aftermarket Sakura filters and they too are identical. Go well Dan. Cheers👍😎
@@JafffaAdventures Thanks Terry.😀
All good Dan👍
Bugger, just did an oil change yesterday, will have to wait a while before the next. Maybe by that time the pickups will be back in stock. Is that oil filter housing OEM, mine is plastic ?
It’s an aluminium unit off a 79 Series as I did not trust the Bakelite one these vehicles come with from factory. Details are in the oil change video in the 200 series maintenance playlist. Cheers😎👍
I wouldn't have put so much gasket goo. If some of that goo manages to break off it could end up blocking an oil squirter that cools the underside of the piston. I am surprised that the factory goo had so much squeezed out inside the sump. Good that you let the goo set for 24 hours.
Toyota manual calls for a sealant bead of 6mm which is what I applied. I’m confident it will be fine, I’ve been building engines for 40 years without issue but the point you raise is real with over application😎
I have 76 series and it’s a much bigger job than the 200 👌
Good to know mate, thanks for sharing 😎👍
Hey Whitey, what was involved to get the strainer off in the 70 series?
What a great little brittle oops I mean bit of information.
Cheers mate😉👍
Have you done an intake clean yet mate
Not yet mate but I have the EGR valve blocked off and a catch can fitted. The EGR blanking plate prevents sooty exhaust from getting into the intake track, and the catch can captures a lot of the oil vapours that mix with the soot and create that black goo. I’ll do it eventually but I suspect my intake track is cleaner than most for those reasons 😎👍
Great info thanks for sharing
My pleasure mate😎👍
I did the sump inspection after I got my 200 with 105k on it. I found it to be a bitch to break the gasket seal to remove it, it's a bit of a patience job even when using a sharp paint scraper but likely worth it on a higher km engine. A gasket rather than a sealant would have made the job so much easier, well done Toyota, not.
Yep it’s a lesson in patience that’s for sure. I would rather have no gaskets and know that Toyota has very tight machined face tolerances, than sloppier tolerances filled by cork gaskets😉😎
@@JafffaAdventures Likely the pressed metal sump would never make a good gasket seal so you are correct.
Agree😎
Jaffa - is there an after market steel pickup available ?
Not that I could find anywhere mate. If you are able to source such a thing let me know as I would fit one up for sure😎👍
@@JafffaAdventures is the 200 pickup different to the 79 pickup?
Don’t know mate👍
Yes it is different. Look at the last comments/replies. Part no is there for the 70 series.
@user-wk9wb2gd9s sweet👍
I live in the US. Is this part the same for the US gas engine 200 series?
Sorry Richard, I have no idea about the petrol engine. Best to research elsewhere. Go well mate👍😎
great tip
Cheers😎👍
Does anyone have an estimate of the expected costs for parts and labor involved in replacing the engine of a 2008 200 series. This inquiry excludes the cost of the engine itself. To pull out the old one and install a new complete engine. I'm in Western Australia
Sorry, not me Jas
Bugger but thanks very much for your reply
All good😊
I worked for a Fleet Leasing company and prior to Covid we had a client hydra-lock a 1VD in a 70 series. At the time the engine replacement using a new crate motor via a Toyota dealer was circa $27k.
@4bnewb969 ouch, that’s gotta hurt🤨
Thanks our Aussie yank 👍🏼
That’s Aussie 🇨🇦 mate😉
@@JafffaAdventures I’m sorry
I’m new to your channel I’ve just subscribed as I’ve found some real handy tips from you thanks
and I look forward to getting a few things done with my latest project 2016 Sahara
@dirtyoff-roadaustralian5525 all good mate😎🇨🇦
Hi,
does anyone out there have any information on the oil pick-up in a 1GD (2019 Prado)..same issue?
Cheers
I do not mate👍
they have a metal pick up but the screen is prone to blocking if oil changes are not done on schedule. you can see the screen thru the sump plug hole
Anyone cut open a new one and seen if it literally like it new?
Not I mate
Why would any manufacturer use plastic oil pick ups? They do some really dumb things don't they
Not wrong mate👍
Cheaper to make plastic items. Only reason I can see
@johnalmstrom1723 agree👍
It could be a weight saving considering the oil filter cap is not metal like the 70 series. Can anyone tell me if the oil pick up is the same part in the 200 and the 70 series 1VD?
@user-wk9wb2gd9s I’m not sure but someone might know👍