being from philly and living thru those rocafella days...i see what your doing karceno and its appreciated. You are trying to rebuild phillys rep thru promotion of beanies return. Meek mill has philly looking silly right now as you know. But your effort to restore philly via your outlet is a good look.
your a wise person i see the same move, beans and the whole state property need to come back it not only will give philly a good look, but also give hip hop a strong presence.
and oschino stayed wit dame too not just beans. and i can tell da type nigga you is thinkin its cool for beans to be paid as state property and not have to give no one in state property no bread smh
cut it out yall niggaz love to hate so who did he sound like before sp when he gave niggaz his best work with reasonable doubt or the black album or American gansta
I disagree with u Ceno , cause if Beans getting 50 or 60k to put a state property show together, they all get on stage and do their thang, and he passing off $1500, then that's some grimy shit
The first 90 seconds told us this would be a Beanie Sigel defense video instead of the unbiased truth. Stop passing off EDUCATED GUESSES as FACTS. That shit is annoying.
100% Truth. Black Album u can hear Philly Style in Jay's rhyme. Look when What We Do came out. Jay so rhymed like Philly. 96-97 Jay, Late 90's, Early 2000's and 2003 Jay I Swear looking back sounds like 4 different styles
100% correct about Hov being influenced by Philly on The Blueprint(hands down top 3 best of his albums)and just he music in general around the time state Property came around, listen how many times he said Bul on that album and on The Hot 97 freestyle
its still not makin sense 2 me. how much money did jay-z give beanie 2 split wit state property. beanie was da face of state property n im sure state property emselves knew dat so I can understand him getting a little more but how much was beanie getting. was he getting over $100 thou. u actin like beans was only getting like $10 thousand or sum shit. state property had 2 be getting ripped off a lot 4 em 2 hold a grudge against beans 4 it. karceno u like 2 twist shit up 2 make it sound good 4 beans. yea maybe oschino did 2 sum shady stuff but u use dat 2 throw him under da bus n big up beans
Yea doe it was def a banger n "can't stop won't stop" got put on State Prop album but was originally a YG single 4 dey album which took away from sales/momentum also but still a dope project regardless
If Oschino did what Karceno is saying he should've done, it would've affected his career so negatively that we probably wouldn't have ever heard of him.
Karceno is a brilliant when it comes to knowing about Hip Hop artists and their story's for real.😃And he right Beans was scorching hot in 98 99 Oschino wasn't even thought of around that time.
Karceno aint bullshittin! I was living in Philly then.... One of the best summers in hip hop! I remember young Chris had a song on the little known cd Dame Dash presents where he opened his verse with that " Excuse Me miss, whats your name, can I take you out tonight" line. Even though we all knew that was from a Luther Vandross song, Jay Z straight pulled the same shit he did to was... took a hot line and made it a hot song! Them Philly niggaz made Jigga step his flow back up!
OG Conrad Murray that's cuz Sigel not boss if he was he would've made moves to sign these guys instead of letting Dame and Jay. That's why he in the state he is now doing interviews wondering why a young boi went up side his head..Cam and Kanye learned something and built off it. Sigel right where he at before the fame a nigga that can rap but not on..he waiting for that phone call from Jay
if you noticed Jay stoled his style from that rapper from Camp lo,go back and check that out.His whole flow was swagga jacked , Then Jay took that Philly style from young gunnas .
Im be honest my city Philly we dont look out for each other when it comes to Rap.....instead Beans & Oschino Beefin ayo lets get old & new rappers to show love and put each other on. Thats then we conquer the globe. Everybody love our Philly flow & delivery. I call it " Philly Grammer"....
If OSCHINO was getting money and making music he wouldn't even bring this shit up. That shit happened years ago, my question is did he approach Beans man to man about the money? If not then thats one you. My opinion is they was all to young, chasing money getting paid and not really understanding the business, you live and you learn.
No matter what you think or say..... they were under Beans supervision so he was supposed to be schooling and bringing them up under his wing. Situations like this happen all the time in the music business. Technically you cannot trust anyone.
I am so late seeing this video but ive always told people this, far as Jay "swagger jacked" my city like crazy at that time. Im tryna think what song, but he was like "the Brooklyn BUL" I was like, when he start saying bul?🤦♀️ But state property really solidified his street credibility and swag. Idc who disagrees, not here to argue lol
Basically u repeating what Oschino said recently, if ppl kept up with State Prop then you know all this didn't even need O to say it cause it's known only new info is that Oschino put Peedi on and not Freeway
he explains it all on nore podcast drinking champs. him and peedi got a 3 hour interview. jawn straight. I'm from philly so it was a bunch a shit I done already knew.
What type of man robs his own boys? Sigel knew his boys didn't know what was going on when it came down to getting paid for those shows... So why not let them know?? Oh cause it wasn't Sigels responsibility... Woow!!
it's not there business, Beans pad them what he wanted to pay them. Jay Z did the same thing. if beans is not there do you think the money is that high?
jay signed them boyz to take them boyz rhymes oschino said other day he had to sit in car in the studio and had to make new raps everyday dam u right again
the young gunz werent no names maybe neef but they owned the summer with cant stop wont stop. people were saying chris might be on the way to bein great just didnt materialize. beanie was definitely the most known though
Jay Z is the most over rated rapper ever to hit the rap game. Most of jay z rap song are lame and wack! but Jay Z is a very good business man aside from rapping.
that roc da mic tour sounds like something stoute woulda hooked up. jay z n 50 involved with a big brand like sprite paying for it? idk if "jay took all the credit" but it seems like the company that funded the tour gave 50 n jay all the credit and based the tour on them and then everything else under that was just perceived to be jay n 50s big ideas. just my opinion tho
what are you talkin about oschino dont even take credit for helpin beans he says peedie was the one who wrote a lot of beans shit. i do my homework too bruh
I see what you saying on the money being spilt on Beans discretion but seem like O was saying beans didn't give them anything for it. Beans could've at least given them a bean for the show. Great videos though even though I have different views on some.
How u telling ppl they blind to the fact Jay was sounding Philly for yrs everybody been saying Jay stole young Chris style you late wit that homie..Plus Oschino said he never said anything about Kiss during that beef..O don't smoke for him to be wiggled out
why everybody wanna comment on how this man do his video some knowledge already known I'm guessing this is to enlighten those who may be ignorant to the subject to much haters man
JAY MAY HAVE HAD GHOST WRITERS, HE MAY NOT HAVE HAD GHOST WRITERS BUT HE DAMN SURE DID A LOT OF SWAGGER JACKING AND BAR STEALING. LET'S BE REAL BRO. OUT OF ALL THE TOP ECHELON RAPPERS JAY DID A LOT OF BAR STEALING
So much karma happen in state property group and the two people suffer who was drama less mind the business that paid their pockets is Young Chris and Peedi peedi.
@karceno you can't go back to Philly lol but Chris and neef albums was hard come on Man. o and if Damon would have keep the rock with camron Lord camron is top 5
True fans all know jay z stole young Chris style
Thought I was da only one he damn sure did clone young chris flow
may I ask what style.. how did J sound or rap diffrent?
Yea hov did tho
listen 2 Jay Album's b4 he got SP nd u tell me if he rapping da same he was especially interested n da young gunz I wonder why
I think Jay is up der wit Drake wit da swagger jacking or is it da other way around
if u listen to blueprint 1-2 u can tell Jay had some Philly niggas writing his shit specifically Young Chris who style is all over that blueprint 2
being from philly and living thru those rocafella days...i see what your doing karceno and its appreciated. You are trying to rebuild phillys rep thru promotion of beanies return. Meek mill has philly looking silly right now as you know. But your effort to restore philly via your outlet is a good look.
fuck outta here
+Jacob Scull thank you
lol
your a wise person i see the same move, beans and the whole state property need to come back it not only will give philly a good look, but also give hip hop a strong presence.
+Caribbean Kush exactly lol...he's out here out speaking like a female thinking he's a n industry insider lmao
and oschino stayed wit dame too not just beans. and i can tell da type nigga you is thinkin its cool for beans to be paid as state property and not have to give no one in state property no bread smh
facts
I'm from Philly n grew up on da era n gay z was jockin da whole Philly style Philly was da face of rocafella
Jay did bite the whole philly thing tho
cut it out yall niggaz love to hate so who did he sound like before sp when he gave niggaz his best work with reasonable doubt or the black album or American gansta
I'm a Jay-Z stan and he did bite Philly. Nigga took Young Chris rap style and ran with it even though he threw his swag into the mix.
he grabbed Young Chris style lmbo...Chris started that "it's ya boy" and you can listen to Jay-Z/Young Chris
I disagree with u Ceno , cause if Beans getting 50 or 60k to put a state property show together, they all get on stage and do their thang, and he passing off $1500, then that's some grimy shit
The first 90 seconds told us this would be a Beanie Sigel defense video instead of the unbiased truth. Stop passing off EDUCATED GUESSES as FACTS. That shit is annoying.
100% Truth. Black Album u can hear Philly Style in Jay's rhyme. Look when What We Do came out. Jay so rhymed like Philly. 96-97 Jay, Late 90's, Early 2000's and 2003 Jay I Swear looking back sounds like 4 different styles
You're not lying. Listen to "La-La-La (Excuse Me Miss Again)." That was Young Chris style.
SuperMarquis32 100%. And again, this Man's the GOAT ??? NAH!!!
diesel101raw Jay-Z is a great emcee, but he's not the GOAT. His days a raw emcee were '97 if not '98.
100% correct about Hov being influenced by Philly on The Blueprint(hands down top 3 best of his albums)and just he music in general around the time state Property came around, listen how many times he said Bul on that album and on The Hot 97 freestyle
Yo i just commented the same thing about BUL lol
@@PrettyDimeTheWordsmithBasirah bul Chris won’t admit but J def took his style an ran wit it
facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 great hip hop videos 🔥🔥🔥🔥
its still not makin sense 2 me. how much money did jay-z give beanie 2 split wit state property. beanie was da face of state property n im sure state property emselves knew dat so I can understand him getting a little more but how much was beanie getting. was he getting over $100 thou. u actin like beans was only getting like $10 thousand or sum shit. state property had 2 be getting ripped off a lot 4 em 2 hold a grudge against beans 4 it. karceno u like 2 twist shit up 2 make it sound good 4 beans. yea maybe oschino did 2 sum shady stuff but u use dat 2 throw him under da bus n big up beans
All of them are shady except young Chris and Peedi Peedi.
Oschino just came out and said it 4 days ago lol.
karceno you speak truth good post my brother
young gunz album did really well... gold status... early
Yea doe it was def a banger n "can't stop won't stop" got put on State Prop album but was originally a YG single 4 dey album which took away from sales/momentum also but still a dope project regardless
wack or not it was a radio song which was suppose 2 b single 4 dey album not State Property album was my point
Exactly!!! Philly was on 🔥🔥🔥 had Wayne usin our slang Jay jockin our style n who wasn't wearing State Prop clothin???
Sloan Jackson Jay swiped that nigga style.
Yahmean! :-)
i dont have to watch the video to know karceno defending beanie smh
facts
nigga work for police
+cityslickest313 i actually already have a job i dont need one but you should practice what you preach lol
+cityslickest313 then idk why the fuck you comment under my comment an your the bitch tf you tellin me you rich everybody rich on youtube lol foh
If Oschino did what Karceno is saying he should've done, it would've affected his career so negatively that we probably wouldn't have ever heard of him.
Oschino exposing y'all favorite rapper from philly is breaking your heart awwww, beans been a buster bruh.
Dame took that bread. Ask dame for your money back💯 He robbed beans too💯
+Kamani Jones yep
exactly
u be on point for the most part...but you wrong about certain things!!!
aye, whatever happened to the State Property chain??? That pendant was one of the icy-est of it era
Karceno is a brilliant when it comes to knowing about Hip Hop artists and their story's for real.😃And he right Beans was scorching hot in 98 99 Oschino wasn't even thought of around that time.
Karceno aint bullshittin! I was living in Philly then.... One of the best summers in hip hop! I remember young Chris had a song on the little known cd Dame Dash presents where he opened his verse with that " Excuse Me miss, whats your name, can I take you out tonight" line. Even though we all knew that was from a Luther Vandross song, Jay Z straight pulled the same shit he did to was... took a hot line and made it a hot song! Them Philly niggaz made Jigga step his flow back up!
the joint Philly projects was a good move and a great events for hip hop including the meek beans alliance.
now I know why I can't ever find that first album anywhere lol
this was deep in never knew none of the other artists from state property was never signed to Mac
OG Conrad Murray that's cuz Sigel not boss if he was he would've made moves to sign these guys instead of letting Dame and Jay. That's why he in the state he is now doing interviews wondering why a young boi went up side his head..Cam and Kanye learned something and built off it. Sigel right where he at before the fame a nigga that can rap but not on..he waiting for that phone call from Jay
that's right Karceno. you nailed it. dont fall for the B.S.. do your thing.
if you noticed Jay stoled his style from that rapper from Camp lo,go back and check that out.His whole flow was swagga jacked , Then Jay took that Philly style from young gunnas .
beans did alot of grimmy shit when it came to the bread for state prop, oschino is a stand up dude and the only 1 wit heart to speak about it
how bout the truth vs kiss of death you didn't do that one
my bad kiss the game goodbye is the album
Im be honest my city Philly we dont look out for each other when it comes to Rap.....instead Beans & Oschino Beefin ayo lets get old & new rappers to show love and put each other on. Thats then we conquer the globe. Everybody love our Philly flow & delivery. I call it " Philly Grammer"....
Album vs album ghetto d vs 400 degrees plz
+Aaron Buchanan did i do that?
I don't think so. I wish you would tho. Both albums are South Classics if you asked me
If OSCHINO was getting money and making music he wouldn't even bring this shit up. That shit happened years ago, my question is did he approach Beans man to man about the money? If not then thats one you. My opinion is they was all to young, chasing money getting paid and not really understanding the business, you live and you learn.
And I don't mean them mixtape s im talking Meek status.
Good point
damn karceno u was right... in 2016 started a beef now he just interviewed beans other day
Gets your facts straight Roc the mic tour happened two years after state property was put together
No matter what you think or say..... they were under Beans supervision so he was supposed to be schooling and bringing them up under his wing. Situations like this happen all the time in the music business. Technically you cannot trust anyone.
all these haters in the comment box yall niggas must be from philly i bet none. of yall will come to chicago
+DONALD BOWENS boom!
keep doing your thing karceno.
I'm in the chi twice a month
And I'm from north philly...
but are u in comment box hatin ok then im talkin to the haters
Yo oschino said all of this already
Oschino talks way too fast though. LOL
that's how we talk in Philly. he always talked like that thou. if u know him that's nothing new
@@itsrelativ3967 yes he really does
damn my dude creeping up on 100,000 followers, good shit my dude
Karceno keep up the good work
Good points, just like Pac rep thug life, nobody wants to see mopream and big syke without Pac. Without Pac thuglife is nothing.
I am so late seeing this video but ive always told people this, far as Jay "swagger jacked" my city like crazy at that time. Im tryna think what song, but he was like "the Brooklyn BUL" I was like, when he start saying bul?🤦♀️ But state property really solidified his street credibility and swag. Idc who disagrees, not here to argue lol
Dag I can’t think of the s as one either but I kno exactly what u talkin bout but yea facts 💯💪🏾
Was a fan till this video..smh oschino is a real one period
Basically u repeating what Oschino said recently, if ppl kept up with State Prop then you know all this didn't even need O to say it cause it's known only new info is that Oschino put Peedi on and not Freeway
Ayo O ain't jus start sayin Beans burned him he said it yrs ago on video wit Meek Millz beside him so it might b new 2 yall but it's old news
Yeah this is very much new to me .
Jay-Z stole Young Chris whole style.
he explains it all on nore podcast drinking champs. him and peedi got a 3 hour interview. jawn straight. I'm from philly so it was a bunch a shit I done already knew.
dude he been saying this since like 2008
What type of man robs his own boys?
Sigel knew his boys didn't know what was going on when it came down to getting paid for those shows... So why not let them know??
Oh cause it wasn't Sigels responsibility...
Woow!!
+marlonious76
Exactly!!!
Now he gotta worry about getting sucker punched in that back of his head..
Karma is a Bitch!!
it's not there business, Beans pad them what he wanted to pay them. Jay Z did the same thing. if beans is not there do you think the money is that high?
marlonious76 these are not his boys, none of them came to see him when they were locked up, except oschino, but they his boys?
they wasnt his boys at the time but the nigga still couldve cut them a check
Elgin Grove
You damn skippy..
Now look at his ass, getting sucker punched..
This has nothing to do with jay z he ain't steal no 15 year old style
this was pretty good can't lie
you a fraud karceno
How do you make a video about the situation after about 5 videos came out on it. You're just repeating the last five videos lol
"nose froze and wiggled out " lol
Everybody know O don't do drugs, don't smoke n don't even drink like that
Al Pizzle Now,how do we know about that time??? same ppl said the same about Prince and michael..dont be so naive man.
Crakk was there da Prince of rap
yo this bul is talkin nonsense he don't know what he talking bout
Philly Black he never do he speak on shit he know nun about.
jay signed them boyz to take them boyz rhymes oschino said other day he had to sit in car in the studio and had to make new raps everyday dam u right again
Need Oschino to chill til this Meek Beans thing is over.
Oschino haven't made a statement since the beef started all the interviews was b4 all this shit started
He never went at Kiss
+Kurtis Omar Mcleod what are you talk8ng about
I was saying in them beefs oschino never mentioned Jada kiss
+Kurtis Omar Mcleod he helped wrute the jadakiss dis
the young gunz werent no names maybe neef but they owned the summer with cant stop wont stop. people were saying chris might be on the way to bein great just didnt materialize. beanie was definitely the most known though
Jay Z is the most over rated rapper ever to hit the rap game. Most of jay z rap song are lame and wack! but Jay Z is a very good business man aside from rapping.
It's the truth! Tupac is the best rapper up to this day . Because he rap truth with clarity.
Most of Jay z rap lyrics you can not even understand what the fuck he is rapping about.
Nigga Tupac is a basic MC compared to the wordplay of a dude like Jay. get out your feelings. what's Tupac most lyrical song?
If I die 2nite
You so right
Why you sticking up for beans man
why wouldnt I be?
These dudes are horribly confused Beanie sigel...is the Truth...Facts!!
I miss Freeway. What happened to him?
HE STILL DO HIS THING MUSICALLY BUT HE IS ALSO LIVING WITH KIDNEY FAILURE
he cool out tha way
he just signed to roc nation again
that roc da mic tour sounds like something stoute woulda hooked up. jay z n 50 involved with a big brand like sprite paying for it? idk if "jay took all the credit" but it seems like the company that funded the tour gave 50 n jay all the credit and based the tour on them and then everything else under that was just perceived to be jay n 50s big ideas. just my opinion tho
yep
Dondiva wrote a article using your vid they owe you some cash
Ur right, n I said that Jay-Z took a lot from Chris from Young Gunz,
I use to think Philli was part of New Yorker when I was young loool 😂
Saaay what?? Why? lol lol
Remember state property clothing
what are you talkin about oschino dont even take credit for helpin beans he says peedie was the one who wrote a lot of beans shit. i do my homework too bruh
The Coar this how I know ceno don't be having real information
The Coar I know every secret about these philly rap beefs,and he be way off😂
this what i know but people be thinkin this dude is informative.
I see what you saying on the money being spilt on Beans discretion but seem like O was saying beans didn't give them anything for it. Beans could've at least given them a bean for the show. Great videos though even though I have different views on some.
I'd love to c u say this to his face
karaceno what did you do in music that you know shit from nyc too philly too Chicago and west coast too fyd in the inudusty
I love STYLES P, AND BENIE
Don’t agree with a lot of stuff but oschino never did a drug in his life the only 1 from state property that did state time he realest dude I ever met
first thing firstbeef records are for publicity sparks and o knew each other
this has already been said
+MaaKluce yes by me
+MaaKluce yes by me
+MaaKluce yes by me
so that means state property was just a hashtag? lol
y jay neva did a song wit peedi crack
ceno why that philly dude hatin on u bro
How u telling ppl they blind to the fact Jay was sounding Philly for yrs everybody been saying Jay stole young Chris style you late wit that homie..Plus Oschino said he never said anything about Kiss during that beef..O don't smoke for him to be wiggled out
this all old news....
Reel talk @karceno4life u did hit us with this back in April but oschino been talking bad him & peedi
You kinda off on ur story look into jimmy the saint that's who help make the situation happen wit Black Friday & rocafella
why everybody wanna comment on how this man do his video some knowledge already known I'm guessing this is to enlighten those who may be ignorant to the subject to much haters man
Nigga u trynna say Jay had ghostwriters? Don't make me smack u
no ain't nobody ghostwriter but flow wise he right facts
JAY MAY HAVE HAD GHOST WRITERS, HE MAY NOT HAVE HAD GHOST WRITERS BUT HE DAMN SURE DID A LOT OF SWAGGER JACKING AND BAR STEALING. LET'S BE REAL BRO. OUT OF ALL THE TOP ECHELON RAPPERS JAY DID A LOT OF BAR STEALING
Antonio Evans it's called recycling. Not biting. In memory of big poppa
Recycling? Let me ask, where are you from and how old are you
toneone16 aww man
17:44 if g-unit has a reuion
Karceno mopping beanie sigel off have some pride get of ur knee homie
this was too funny but truth!! CTFUUU
Damn you got the story wrong this time bro do your homework
it's alot of hate for Jay-z on Karceno videos.
So much karma happen in state property group and the two people suffer who was drama less mind the business that paid their pockets is Young Chris and Peedi peedi.
I guess this guy knows everybody life since he so called knows " the truth" lmao liar
nas said that
Peedi crakk is through.
pedi crakk is the man.
Wikipedia for oschino lol
FACTS!!!
listen to my song white gurl on soundcloud by 2-bandz
oh OK I see where you're coming from
Folk tales of hiphop world.
@karceno you can't go back to Philly lol but Chris and neef albums was hard come on Man. o and if Damon would have keep the rock with camron Lord camron is top 5
Frank Davis yo this nigga really scared to go bac😂
will be there oct 14, west Philly
Let me find O a 🐍