Damn, Robyn! Crushed it on the fight scene break down! That was like a course on how to animate a fight scene. Absolutely loved it! 10/10! I only get 2 channels under my rock RobynO and Skitty Animates, so Arcane wasn't on my radar, but is now. I hope you had a great birthday! When you get time please do another break down like this, it was so helpful. I hope you and your family will have a safe and happy Holidays this week!
Thanks Justin, I'm amazed you actually watched that far, I really thought I'd made this one too long and no one would watch to the end! I'm so glad it was a good breakdown and was informative. Thanks , my birthday was really nice. I'll definitely add animation analysis, breakdowns to my roster. I hope you and your family have happy holidays too!
I also really enjoyed the break down. Would love to see more like that. Maybe analysing some facial animation in a crucial dialogue scene or something because those were incredible too.
I've seen a lot of reactors say the animation was well done and realistic, but you are the first one to actually break it down frame by frame and explain WHY. Thank your for that. Also: Totally missed the fact that they dirtied the lens in various scenes (rain, dust, etc.) further selling the idea that Arcane was 'filmed' like a live action movie.
I was so impressed with the subtle facial emotional and body language expressions of the characters. That alone sucked me into caring for the characters. If they released three movies on Imax, I would now pay money to go see them.
I'm honestly blown away by how much storytelling goes on in these fight scenes, how much we LEARN about these characters through the mere act of seeing them duke it out. How in Ep 3 we see just how much Vi has immersed herself into being the badass that she ends up being, even in her young age. How despite putting his gloves down, that Vander is still the "Hound of the Underground" and that we see that he could still be the forceful leader that he used to be, but chooses not. Or in Ep 4, where we not only learn where Silco's goons are at, we're introduced to the fireflies, and Jinx's headspace/capabilities, ALL JUST IN A SINGLE FIGHT. I could go on and on, but no other show that I've ever seen has put this much thought into not only the choreography of its fight scenes, but the storytelling of them within the narrative. Masterpiece.
You're so right ! The fight scenes are absolutely incredible, because you learn so much from them and they reflect the interpersonal relationships and tell us more of the story just by small details like facial expressions, body language, framing, lighting, etc. It's just amazing how they do it. I dont think I've ever seen anything where they portray so much information through fight scenes
I have been looking for a true breakdown like this from an animator, I kinda wished it was longer, it was very good, exactly what I have been looking for! I hope to see more breakdowns like this.
If you're looking for good animation breakdowns, you should check out T B Skyen. Here is his breakdown of the Enemy music video: ruclips.net/video/RkdDZJmUzek/видео.html
the fight break down brought so much to the table! i never caught those details even when i watched that scene like 15 times when i first saw. i'd definitely hear you talk hours on end about every fight breakdown
That's great to hear, I'm so glad it helped you see things you hadn't noticed before! Even after doing a breakdown, I still notice things I hadn't before. Arcane has sooo much put into every little detail
Robyn, this is your second video that I've seen. I was very taken with your previous video on how Powder/Jinx and Silco's relationship began, even to the point of having my husband, who introduced me to Arcane, watch it. I loved that video because Jinx and Silco are my favorite characters in the series, and you broke down how their relationship came to be visually extremely well. However, I also value this new video greatly, because it takes a broader view at how the whole series is constructed visually. Thanks for your excellent work!
Saw the thumbnail and at first I was expecting it to be another bandwagon review but you really know your stuff. It's clear you have extensive knowledge about the subjects you discuss and you want to explore them for your audience to appreciate a side of this show they may not have been aware of even after repeat viewings. This was well worth my time and I'm grateful for the effort you put into it.
@@RobynO_O Please tell me you plan on doing further analysis videos on Arcane or at least the show's fight scenes! I realize fight choreography - let alone in animation - isn't the focus of your channel but your breakdowns are so insightful. When I first saw this video, I thought for sure you specialized in analyzing stunts or animation in television/films.
Not a League fan and I too had put off watching. Your dissection has been amazing and I'm looking forward to my second viewing of Arcane looking for those little details.
Carried away? Are you kidding? I loved the deep-dive dissection of the fight scene between Vi and "The Douche"! I don't work in animation but I am fascinated by it so watching you go through the scene bit by bit offered an interesting perspective. 😁
Only watched a few minutes because I'm very late getting around to watching Arcane (and everything else for that matter) but the little bit I saw here looks amazing! I can see why Twitter is pooping themselves over it. That intro had me laughing! haha awesome job, and congrats on hitting 8k! You're going to blow up anyday now, I can feel it.
Thanks! It really is incredible! Ha ha I didn't know if maybe the intro was too much so I'm glad you found it funny 😅 Thanks ! If only I can keep consistent with uploads!
Oh no, that's awful, I'm so sorry ☹ burnout is really horrible. I hope you've been able to combat it in some parts of your life and only focusing on what you really need to and finding time for some self care. I did notice that you weren't uploading as often as you had before, I'm sorry that was the reason. I hope it's starting to get a bit better .
@@RobynO_O Thanks, it is getting better, slowly :) It's my own fault for working past 5 everyday since starting my new job back in May haha. Been making a point to shut the computer down at 5 everyday and play lots of video games, even got back to writing a pretty big script this week! I'll have a better balance in the new year, just with less frequent uploads for sanity's sake 😅
Oh yeah, stopping work right at 5 can be really difficult- especially at a new job ! It's always so tempting to just keep going that little bit longer. And maintaining the whole RUclips thing on top of a full time job is also actually really difficult at times. I'm glad you're starting to feel a bit better and managing to play games and have that chill time ! It's so important.
11:47 ... oh little Vi. *sigh. Just like the opening scene when the mountain of muscle Vander approaches the girls. Lil baby Vi moves powder back behind her a bit and makes a wee little fist, and puts that little determined face on, like she's going to at least try to do some damage. ❤🥰 yea " You go baby Vi" 👶
Arcane deserves all of the awards. It is the best thing to be on Netflix, the internet, or anything else in years. Along with the visual artistry and voice acting, this is some of the best writing that has ever been in modern entertainment.
I love how you always say that no one will watch your videos until the end if they are too long but in reality we just want longer videos because they are so interesting!
This was truly amazing. If you plan on doing other videos about arcane I would love to see you talk about the non-verbal communication, between characters(in the fight scene with ekko and jinx) and also between characters and audience(with caitlyn investigating the fight where we can see her thought process trough the animation and expressions).
Thanks! I just uploaded a video of the fight scene between Vi and Sevika, but that's a great idea to do one on the non-verbal communication in some scenes too!
if you'd want to, id watch more videos of you breaking down other scenes! they dont have to be fight scenes either. I just feel like theres sooo much to talk about in this show.
Awesome ! My next video is of the fight scene between Vi and Sevika in episode 5. But it would also be cool to do one that's less body mechanics focused and more visual storytelling and character acting based
Arcane is absolutely incredible! I remember being in love with the look when the studio made that K/DA Pop/Stars music video. I was so amazed by the first story arc and I think there needs to be more tragic things like that in movies and media. So many aspects were all crafted at such a high level that any part can be marveled at in it's own right. I wasn't expecting you to dissect those scenes, that was so informative. Thank you I would love to see more!
Yeah that KDA/Pop stars video was dope! I agree about needing more tragic/deeper level drama like that in particularly animated content. I love that it's also showing a wider audience that animation can cover adult material, it doesn't all need to only be happy/kids content.
4:43 you have given voice to my soul. sigh. I just needed to see someone say that in the way you did lol. Vi is a work of art. I LOVE these videos you make! Interesting, knowledgeable, a perfect balance between appreciative and technical. Keep making more!
I loved your analysis, because it helped me better understand how Arcane impacted me the way it did. I knew that the artwork in Arcane is a major part of its impact, but I had very little understanding of how the animation was done. Wow! Now I'm even more impressed with it than I already was. Thanks for opening up those aspects of its wonder for me.
Great vid. Interesting that you would concentrate on one slice of a fight scene to highlight the animation quality. Other streamers have approached the fighting from a technical perspective and have also been highly impressed with the realism and attention to detail. Indeed, this is a phenomenal show, in nearly every way (I agree with you on the music, if only one or two tracks that don’t quite work imo).
The sound track is amazing in my opinion with the exception of maybe two songs. However, after re watching this show many times those particular songs aren't so out of place in the series and work pretty well where they are. I just wouldn't want to listen to them by themselves like riding in my truck.
Wow! What a breakdown. I was obsessed with the camera mimicry in this show, and this breakdown captured it beautifully. You also helped us understand why the fight scenes felt so visceral. We have seen violence in cartoons before (eg. Invincible) but this is more realistic. Thank you and hoping you do more.
You're welcome, thanks for the feedback and I'm glad you found the video worthwhile ! Definitely planning to do more in the future, my next video is a breakdown of another fight scene.
Thanks for all those insights. It is very interesting and educating: there are very few such subjects around, and so we are all complete beginers on that topic. Regarding how everyone became familiar with plot, character builing and arcs, by watching critics ... i truly believe many are ready and eager to learn about the "showing to tell" part.
People seem to prefer the Ekko vs Jinx due to its sheer artistry but that Vi fight in Episode 3 is just phenomenal, for the reasons highlighted about the opening few moments to what happens after. You can literally see her tiring, her form gets looser as her strength is sapped from the exertion, just lifting the cestas becomes more and more of a challenge by itself, her breathing getting deeper as the fatigue sets in, the huge gasp as she lifts her hands. Its visual poetry. They've clearly thought about and designed every frame to tell the story of the fight and its all there on screen. It might not have the visual flair of Ekko vs Jinx but damn, its the best fight I've ever seen in animation and one of the best in any visual media.
I watched Arcane and love it so much Definitely my favorite TV series to date (although tbh I don't watch a lot of TV haha) I also love Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse and have watched analysis of its animation style as well, so it's cool to have an idea of the similarities and differences between it and Arcane
@@RobynO_O Season 2 won't take nearly as long though. They said that there was a massive learning curve with season 1 and they didn't have any connections with Hollywood or actors. Season 2 will likely take between 2-3 years to make because they hired a project lead that has experience and a lot of connections with Hollywood/actors, etc, etc. They are also hiring a lot more animators right now for season 2. So basically they have much more experience now and are getting way more help. So it won't take another 6 years this time around. Late 2023 at the very earliest, but probably 2024.
Vis waist in the game is not unrealistic. Its *_uncommon._* I'll agree the Arcane version is not only more common but more fitting. Shes a brawler, not a runway model. She would most likely be more muscular and even keeled than her ingame version. That doesnt make it unrealistic tho. I know girls with that body, yes plural. "Unrealistic" is has become a buII$h¡t term used online by jealous women who doesnt have that body type. If you dont mean it *_literally,_* you should avoid using it. If you *_do_* mean it literally, I can only assume youre one of those jealous women.
What I like most of the fighting animation is that it feels proper solid not like that garbage you find in Kung Fu Panda and that sort of “kid friendly” impact animation (Reya and the last dragon, so disappoint with fighting). The one other animation that had such good fighting animation is Altered Carbon Resleeved. You didn’t say spoiler alert.
Zoe, you'd be definitely be Zoe main in LOL. ruclips.net/video/IZF_mSY0zVI/видео.html Anyways, I am re watching this again. It has that higher level of quality. Happy NY kid.
the music? ........................................................................................ it was supposed to be volatile, different, everytime pow pow or jinx had hallucinations... it did that screech sound, ehhhh what songs go with that? no lets do a screech soundand go into mozart.......... makes sense right? since most people like that song? i think?
I had no expectations with this show so I half watched the first episode while doing other things. Half way through the 2nd ep, I stopped and re watched the first ep again. I was so blown away at what I was watching, I knew it deserved my full attention. Watching others react or review or just talk about this masterpiece is almost as fun as watching it for the first time. I enjoyed your upload and decided to sub and see what else you are into and look forward to your next effort.
Shoot man, I've watched videos of psychologists doing breakdowns of the characters in this show. Riot really did their homework. Now I get to see animators do breakdowns. It kind of verifies my sense that this is really a bad ass show.
Arcane IS a masterpiece! I was playing League of Legends when it first came out and stayed part of that community for many years. For fans of the game, I was a Soraka main, and that's about it! My Fiancé was the one who taught me how to support him at bottom lane and it's one of the things that brought us close to each other and the rest of our friend group. Nothin' like sitting in a house the size of a garage, sitting on couches with tray tables and laptops in front of us, smoking cigarettes & loading in for a match while listening to whatever dubstep trap was most popular - "Turn Down for What?" The Story and Lore of League of Legends has always been GOLD & the team who worked on Arcane... They Did It. They captured what the players LOVED and FELT about the game. The complexity and diversity of the characters fighting for their lives among this strange universe... seriously, everything you described! Like you, I could go on and on and ON... so I won't, LOL You're awesome Robyn! Love ya! TTFN
I can definitely see that people will want to play League of Legends after watching Arcane because the characters seem so awesome and so does the whole world. It's great to hear from a fan of the game that they did it so well ! Rare that a show translates so well from the source material ! Thanks Reila !
This was incredible, my first video of yours and I'll definitely be watching more if you do stuff like this again! Please do! As a third year animation student that fight scene breakdown was absolutely entrancing, i zoned out completely just focusing listening to that. Big props for this one, please do more like this. Next up spider-verse perhaps?
Thanks! My next video is a breakdown of that awesome fight between Vi and Sevika in episode 5 , so hopefully you'll find that interesting too ! I'll also do breakdowns of other movies and shows in the future
It helps that with must have been great advice from someone who has actual fight experience advised in these fight scenes. Really great fight scenes with real body positions, reactions and focus in real situations make this brilliant. Robyn0 just pointed out these things (and did a great job of it if I must say). The thing that has stuck out to me is the real life aspects they get right in this show. Psychologists (yes real psychologists) have done break downs on the characters and how genuine they really are and now we get to enjoy a real animator break down whats right with this show. It all adds up to a bad ass show.
@@jeffh709 Yeah fr dude! I'm a huge league lore nerd so naturally I absolutely loved the show anyway, but they really did go above and beyond. Can't wait for s2!
@@legadith2077 I don't play myself but I watch my nerd daughter play so much I kinda know what the deal is. It's fun especially when she is loudly complaining about dumb ass team mates LOL. It is a great lore and I include myself as a fan. Arcane is fabulous.
While I love all the fight scenes in Arcane, it's the first fight between Vi & Sevika that really impresses me from an animation standpoint. It's just so brilliantly choreographed.
The "mixed media" feel, especially the scribbles that appear on-screen whenever Powder/Jinx is stressed, is highly reminiscent of comic book artist Bill Sienkiewicz, who I think is really good at depicting madness. He would do really wild things like glue photocopies of earlier panels or even lace doilies to the boards that got sent off to the printer. Goodness knows what the poor printer had to do to turn those boards into 4-color prints. So much of this show looks like someone at Fortiche read Elektra: Assassin by Sienkiewicz, which is a good thing.
that's a really cool observation, I googled Bill Sienkiewicz and it's a really interesting mixed media art style and such a cool way to do graphics for comics
Not as much of an animation geek, cannot speak on it nearly as eloquently as this video did, but it is quite the feat. I'm not even into League, and damn, it was good
This is amazing! You picked up the details which deserve more compliments. Watch this series frame-by-frame literally blow my mind. I wonder how Fortiche made the fight scenes that are so dynamic and powerful. There are a lot of dramatic squeezes, Stretches, and even deformed (especially in Jinx's scene). I even wonder is that possible to animate this in 3D animation. This is incredible!
Great video. A few remarks. - Yeah, every frame of the show is a work of art. I wanted to take a few snapshots of the show because I managed to find the show in 4k, and... I ended up taking, like, a hundred. ^^; - The budget was quite considerable, BUT compared to a Disney or Dreamworks or Sony feature film, it was pretty low. The head of character animation said in a interview that they had like four riggers. - There have been "some changes" in the character design : the understatement of the century. I didn't know anything about LoL before I watched Arcane, so I've discovered Violet and Jinx through the show, and when I see them in other videos... it's not THEM that I see. The expressiveness of the characters, their EYES, is one of the first things that impressed me. To me, what Fortiche has done is just sensational. In Jinx's eyes, you can "see" her tragedy. I don't see much in the other Jinxes' eyes. - Side note : you act all badass saying "motherfucker" less than ten seconds in, and then bleep it ! It doesn't many any sense ! :D
this was great and i really enjoyed the breakdown at the end! more of those please! i’m sure there’s probably quite a few scenes you enjoyed from arcane and i’d love to hear about those as well if you get the time. :)) oh and i did watch till the end by the way!
Thanks ! My next video is going to be a breakdown of the fight in episode 5 between Vi and Sevika .Thanks for watching til the end, I'm glad it was interesting enough to keep your attention !
The reason the characters in LOL have small waists, long legs and big arms and weapons is because of the camera angle and size of the characters on the screen. They need to create a strong silhouette for each character because they are so far away, it's just form follows function.
Hi Robyn ! I'm also working in animation and I only discovered your channel now, through your breakdowns of Arcane, and GOSH ! You're killing it ! I wouldn't mind watching a whole series of 20+ minutes animation breakdown of yours of this serie's iconic scenes (there are just so much of them ! It's a real tresure trove of content). You've got an instant sub from my part ! Keep up the good work !
These are all the kinds of things I've been preaching (though much more thoughtfully put together than I do) to my friends and colleagues that even if you have no investment in League's lore or characters (I didn't either), that this is literally a masterpiece that if you are in this industry, be it animation, rigging, texturing, concept, cinematography, etc, etc, etc, THIS. SHOULD. BE. ON. YOUR. RADAR. The story is as accessible as any fantasy story introducing you to an unfamiliar world, and quickly establishes believable grounded characters. The amount of visual storytelling instead of relying on exposition is fantastic. Fortiche nails every single aspect (soundtrack is mostly good...haha). There are scenes burned into my memory from the amount of times I've rewatched them, and every once in a while I frame-by-frame sections to appreciate the attention to detail, especially in the animations, and I just want to absorb all of it into my skillset. I really hope they bring home recognition that it truly deserves from the Annie Awards in Feb, because I know lots of people that still dismiss Arcane. I've even had colleagues comment they thought it was mocapped and it's left me speechless and wanting to punch things.
I'm with you ! I still get shocked when I ask people if they've watched it yet and they have no interest in it either because they hate league of legends or they don't like watching animated stuff. They don't realize just how high on another level this is. It has to get an Annie award, I think people should protest if it doesn't!
It really doesn't look like mocap animation. I recently read an article where the director of animation said they didn't use mocap because they didn't want to run the risk of an uncanny valley effect with how semi-realistic the characters are.
Hey, I just stumbled across your video by chance and I must say: Congratulations! You present your topics in an entertaining and interesting fashion. And what a lucky find that is... Arcane absolutely ignited my interest in animation. I've just installed Blender a couple of hours ago and I'm really eager to learn about modelling and animation. Hence finding your channel was SUPER nice. Keep up the great work! :)
well done on the breakdown. curious what type of animation you create…cell, cg, commercial, artistic? Arcane is a masterpiece…almost shocking in it’s excellence. Thanks for the video. You are super watchable & lovely as can be (subscribed 👍🏼).
thanks! I'm mostly a 3d generalist and motion graphics and 2d puppet animator. Most of my work has been on commercial work and for the past few years, AR and VR. But I've done a bit of most of what you mentioned in my career
i can see why people like it but i have many issues with the show: >Jayce is a prodigy wonder boy who becomes the overman only to get turned into a cowardly, reactionary and clueless idiot that gets ordered around by other people >Viktor was the best character of the show but his story often feels like its being on hold bcs its other peoples time to shine. his arc has a bad pacing in the 2nd half >the corruption of the council makes 0 sense. it is treated as something vr bad by Jayce and even Heimerdinger the good guy mini sage is on it >but then he just randomly calls it "being to comfortable in good times" and then gets voted out (is it corruption or just some harmless alliance building ?) >Jinx felt a little unbelievable at times with how her meltdown align perfectly with "situations that could be missunderstood" >the proto homo erotic stuff with Vi and Caitlyn felt very cowardly, they were to afraid to make them explicitly lesbian so they do this under the rug thing >the 2nd half of the show had barely any world building. it feels like its just 2-4 characters in a music video taking their turn >the underground is way to homogenious. why would they all follow some tavern owner ? and then just the other guy that replaces him ? >how does 1 guy even lead such a place ? he is just a tavern owner >the mother of Mel (the black councler) and their relationship feels like some extremely questionable meta narrative about certain aspects of the real world experience of black people >the kids at the Tree and their whole existence also undermines the undercity since it shows that even within reach of them a better life is so easily possible. >it is NEVER explicitly justified how the relationship of the upper city and the lower city came to be and why it exists. so the whole thing feels like a story telling prop there is so much more... but overall i can see why everyone likes it. it is a unique show where i really dislike so much of it but i can still recommend it for the visuals. edit: but one thing i will criticize about the visuals, how much they milk that Jayce/Viktor back-shot of muscular Adonis next to frail Wimp that is about to die. at first its very powerful but they inflate it by doing it so many times. just a little less indulgence would have had more impact.
Ok soo, some of these are a bit weitd for criticism. It looks like you have a big problem with subtext, and if something isn't explicitly said you don't get it. >Jayce is a science protigy who was dropped into a political environment because of that, it was made really clear that the guy have no experiance or idea what's going on, and he handles thes tension between the two city accordingly. >Heimerdinger isn't corrupt, the whole sceene is abouth how nearly every councyl member has their own shit, and thrn there is him. Who is so disatached from reality that he diesn't even notice. This flaw of his is continually shown, and ultimatelly this is what gets him removed. He usn't corrupt, he is well meaning, but kinda lives in his own fantasy word and is unable to notice corruption and other problems around him. >Vander isn't just a bartender. He has a history as a leader, even as somebody who lead attsaks againts the upper city. And he isn't doing it alone, he is just one of the most prominent figure. >The relationship between the two city diesn't have to be explicitly justifyed. Especially when the important part of it was shown repetitevly. Lover city: working class part, where the mines with toxic gasses, and industrial plants with toxic wastes were. Upper class part didn't care, class divide strengthens. Some other divides like how the use of air wechicles and later hextech furter escslate this, as the upper city no longer uses the lower city dicks for trade, cutting them away even more. It's all there, we don't need an i fodumb abouth Piltower's ~300 year history and class strugle.
@@i.cs.z >Heimer is shown in the theater to be in on the dealings since he as well is discussing stuff with foreign politicians with the implication that "one hand washes the other" stuff is going on. if he is not on it than that would be even worse since it would mean that he is very stupid. something that contradicts his whole character. >Viktor is in the same position as Jayce and his actions are way more sensible than his. it makes no sense. they need to explain to me why a science prodigy is making these decisions. i dont think they did a good job in portraying him as a character with integrity. Jayce does stupid or intelligent things depending on what they want to set up in relation to the character drama. >Vander: same thing. they have to show me more than just a small cutscene of 3 people at the start if they want me to take the setting of the undercity for more than just a prop. >i dont need exposition for 300 years of class struggle. i need justifications for the actions that the people do. if anything the Hextech should have improved the lives of the people in the undercity since it is in the interest of the uppercity that they dont revolt or do stupid shit. but such a crucial and reasonable development is put on hold by people telling Jayce platitudes about how he has to wait and make more inventions that he can present to other nations. it feels cheap and undermines the setting. i dont demand Lord of the Rings but i often felt like things were not reasonable or set up properly but happened nevertheless bcs they have the goal of character conflict first and everything else is an after thought.
@@Senumunu Ok so no. Heimerdinger do not sceem with politicians in that sceen. The whole thing is abouth how all the others are in their private boxes talking, making deals, and then there is Heimer, who just sitting there, eyes closed listening to music, in what looks like the "public" area. He is also the only one Jayce doesn't sake hands with.
@@i.cs.z but this means he is stupid/naive while being hundreds of years old. it is even worse... but i will concede this 100%. it is only one minor point among many
@@Senumunu Yes, he being blind, a bit naive and out if touch is one of his main characteristics.... Feature not bug. You know, character flaws, just becazse he is old he isn't this omnipotent unaffable being.
I can definitely see that. That's also one of the things that is so amazing about this show- the characters are pretty much all grey characters- even the "evil" people still have some humanity and you can kind of see where they're coming from in the bad things they do. They're still people we can empathize with. I also have an affinity for Silko. His relationship with Jinx was pretty sweet.
@@RobynO_O this gonna be long reply. idk if this make sense but, silco as vander brother and vander as vi and powder father even though they're not blood related, silco have to take over vander's authority from the undercity to move forward his plan to make undercity a better place from his pov in the process killed vander and other character by powder by accident. And vander last word was, take care of powder but she kinda abandoned her by her sister and silco took powder as powder was the last member of the family. Fast forward, silco used to live underwater and love fishes so jinx made him the fish like rocket launcher and his last word o(ㄒoㄒ). Not only those character but i love how riot build up the characters. Even those 2 dudes who appear for 2 eps and the scientist who turn to dust. Etc.
@@notjinx3545 that makes sense with their relationships and how it all progressed! Yeah all the characters feel really well rounded, it's surprising when a character doesn't last long (ie, dies soon after we meet them) because all the characters are so detailed and full of life and personality
@@RobynO_O btw I'm practicing bouncing ball which you have recommended. First it was easy using first frame copy for all frames but oh boy drawing new ball every frame is not easy, maintaining the volume is the hardest.
@@notjinx3545 glad you're doing the exercise ! A lot of people skip it cos they think it's gonna be too easy but you're right, it's so hard to maintain the volume and keep it looking like the same ball !
10:44 What animated fights are you watching? I feel like the best fights are in animation. The animators are free to make motion feel snappy and emphasize impacts. Although, Arcane is definitely on another level since it oozes high budget. I often feel like the worst fights are in live-action since everything is hidden with jump cuts and awkward choreography that feels unnatural.
I feel like fighting in animation often falls down one or two faulty paths. Either 1) the animation is aimed for kids or teens, and so the fights have to be more focussed on defense, running away, and even when someone gets hurt they arent hurt in a way that would be realistic. Its toned down for its audience. Or, 2) They used mocap, which for me is as bad as fight scenes in live action film, because at the end of the day, its a person doing the movement and so it still feels slightly stiff and/or awkward. The reason the Arcan fight scenes stand out to me is because it does neither of the two previously mentioned things. Its gritty: teeth are knocked out, bones crunch, noses bleed, spit flies everywhere. Even more so, the women get roughed up. I feel like often in media when women fight they dont actually get hurt in a way that is gruesome. Like, Vi spitting out a tooth? That was the first time i'd seen a female character do that in a show/film. Seeing the characters that were fighting not fighting in a "pretty" way, or a "clean" way, made it feel so much more realistic. Also, none of Arcane is mocapped. In fact, there are some frames where the model is stretched slightly out of proportion in order to make the animation smoother and make the fight choreography not feel stiff, like it often does with live action or motion capture. Fight scenes are great when done right, and this is one of the few times ive really seen it done right. Maybe thats just me and the media ive watched, but idk
Damn, Robyn! Crushed it on the fight scene break down! That was like a course on how to animate a fight scene. Absolutely loved it! 10/10! I only get 2 channels under my rock RobynO and Skitty Animates, so Arcane wasn't on my radar, but is now. I hope you had a great birthday! When you get time please do another break down like this, it was so helpful. I hope you and your family will have a safe and happy Holidays this week!
Thanks Justin, I'm amazed you actually watched that far, I really thought I'd made this one too long and no one would watch to the end! I'm so glad it was a good breakdown and was informative. Thanks , my birthday was really nice. I'll definitely add animation analysis, breakdowns to my roster. I hope you and your family have happy holidays too!
I also really enjoyed the break down. Would love to see more like that. Maybe analysing some facial animation in a crucial dialogue scene or something because those were incredible too.
Okey question..Do you think Vi can kill sevika?? I mean the first and second fights between them two Made me think" Okey she has her this time".
I've seen a lot of reactors say the animation was well done and realistic, but you are the first one to actually break it down frame by frame and explain WHY. Thank your for that.
Also: Totally missed the fact that they dirtied the lens in various scenes (rain, dust, etc.) further selling the idea that Arcane was 'filmed' like a live action movie.
I'm glad you found something worthwhile in my video with regards to the breakdown!
I was so impressed with the subtle facial emotional and body language expressions of the characters. That alone sucked me into caring for the characters.
If they released three movies on Imax, I would now pay money to go see them.
I'm honestly blown away by how much storytelling goes on in these fight scenes, how much we LEARN about these characters through the mere act of seeing them duke it out. How in Ep 3 we see just how much Vi has immersed herself into being the badass that she ends up being, even in her young age. How despite putting his gloves down, that Vander is still the "Hound of the Underground" and that we see that he could still be the forceful leader that he used to be, but chooses not. Or in Ep 4, where we not only learn where Silco's goons are at, we're introduced to the fireflies, and Jinx's headspace/capabilities, ALL JUST IN A SINGLE FIGHT.
I could go on and on, but no other show that I've ever seen has put this much thought into not only the choreography of its fight scenes, but the storytelling of them within the narrative. Masterpiece.
You're so right ! The fight scenes are absolutely incredible, because you learn so much from them and they reflect the interpersonal relationships and tell us more of the story just by small details like facial expressions, body language, framing, lighting, etc. It's just amazing how they do it. I dont think I've ever seen anything where they portray so much information through fight scenes
I have been looking for a true breakdown like this from an animator, I kinda wished it was longer, it was very good, exactly what I have been looking for! I hope to see more breakdowns like this.
I'm glad it was what you've been looking for ! I'm going to do another breakdown video since quite a few people are asking for one.
If you're looking for good animation breakdowns, you should check out T B Skyen. Here is his breakdown of the Enemy music video: ruclips.net/video/RkdDZJmUzek/видео.html
loved your analysis of the Vi scene. So happy to hear so many people praise this amazing show
thanks! I'm also glad so many people love it as much as I do
the fight break down brought so much to the table! i never caught those details even when i watched that scene like 15 times when i first saw. i'd definitely hear you talk hours on end about every fight breakdown
That's great to hear, I'm so glad it helped you see things you hadn't noticed before! Even after doing a breakdown, I still notice things I hadn't before. Arcane has sooo much put into every little detail
I love breakdowns like this. I would watch hours of content breaking down different scenes in this exact way. Please do more!
that's great to hear, thank you! Will do!
Robyn, this is your second video that I've seen. I was very taken with your previous video on how Powder/Jinx and Silco's relationship began, even to the point of having my husband, who introduced me to Arcane, watch it. I loved that video because Jinx and Silco are my favorite characters in the series, and you broke down how their relationship came to be visually extremely well. However, I also value this new video greatly, because it takes a broader view at how the whole series is constructed visually. Thanks for your excellent work!
Saw the thumbnail and at first I was expecting it to be another bandwagon review but you really know your stuff. It's clear you have extensive knowledge about the subjects you discuss and you want to explore them for your audience to appreciate a side of this show they may not have been aware of even after repeat viewings. This was well worth my time and I'm grateful for the effort you put into it.
Thank you ! It was a lot of work, I really appreciate your comment 😊
@@RobynO_O Please tell me you plan on doing further analysis videos on Arcane or at least the show's fight scenes! I realize fight choreography - let alone in animation - isn't the focus of your channel but your breakdowns are so insightful. When I first saw this video, I thought for sure you specialized in analyzing stunts or animation in television/films.
@@boxtears I definitely do plan on doing more analysis videos on it
Not a League fan and I too had put off watching. Your dissection has been amazing and I'm looking forward to my second viewing of Arcane looking for those little details.
Oh that's great to hear! I'm also going to watch it again, even though I watched it so many times to make this video!
Carried away? Are you kidding? I loved the deep-dive dissection of the fight scene between Vi and "The Douche"! I don't work in animation but I am fascinated by it so watching you go through the scene bit by bit offered an interesting perspective. 😁
Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad to hear it was interesting even to people who aren't animators !
Only watched a few minutes because I'm very late getting around to watching Arcane (and everything else for that matter) but the little bit I saw here looks amazing! I can see why Twitter is pooping themselves over it. That intro had me laughing! haha awesome job, and congrats on hitting 8k! You're going to blow up anyday now, I can feel it.
Thanks! It really is incredible! Ha ha I didn't know if maybe the intro was too much so I'm glad you found it funny 😅 Thanks ! If only I can keep consistent with uploads!
@@RobynO_O Don't stress about the schedule too much! Burnouts a hell of a thing to kick. Been dealing with it myself for a good 4 months now haha
Oh no, that's awful, I'm so sorry ☹ burnout is really horrible. I hope you've been able to combat it in some parts of your life and only focusing on what you really need to and finding time for some self care. I did notice that you weren't uploading as often as you had before, I'm sorry that was the reason. I hope it's starting to get a bit better .
@@RobynO_O Thanks, it is getting better, slowly :) It's my own fault for working past 5 everyday since starting my new job back in May haha. Been making a point to shut the computer down at 5 everyday and play lots of video games, even got back to writing a pretty big script this week! I'll have a better balance in the new year, just with less frequent uploads for sanity's sake 😅
Oh yeah, stopping work right at 5 can be really difficult- especially at a new job ! It's always so tempting to just keep going that little bit longer. And maintaining the whole RUclips thing on top of a full time job is also actually really difficult at times. I'm glad you're starting to feel a bit better and managing to play games and have that chill time ! It's so important.
11:47 ... oh little Vi. *sigh.
Just like the opening scene when the mountain of muscle Vander approaches the girls. Lil baby Vi moves powder back behind her a bit and makes a wee little fist, and puts that little determined face on, like she's going to at least try to do some damage. ❤🥰 yea
" You go baby Vi" 👶
Arcane deserves all of the awards. It is the best thing to be on Netflix, the internet, or anything else in years. Along with the visual artistry and voice acting, this is some of the best writing that has ever been in modern entertainment.
I love how you always say that no one will watch your videos until the end if they are too long but in reality we just want longer videos because they are so interesting!
😅 I just find it incomprehensible that people would want to listen to me blabbing on for so long
This was truly amazing. If you plan on doing other videos about arcane I would love to see you talk about the non-verbal communication, between characters(in the fight scene with ekko and jinx) and also between characters and audience(with caitlyn investigating the fight where we can see her thought process trough the animation and expressions).
Thanks! I just uploaded a video of the fight scene between Vi and Sevika, but that's a great idea to do one on the non-verbal communication in some scenes too!
if you'd want to, id watch more videos of you breaking down other scenes! they dont have to be fight scenes either. I just feel like theres sooo much to talk about in this show.
Awesome ! My next video is of the fight scene between Vi and Sevika in episode 5. But it would also be cool to do one that's less body mechanics focused and more visual storytelling and character acting based
I want to see a full one hour video of you analyzing more scenes please. It's absolutely interesting!!!
Glad to hear it's interesting ! I'll try do more scenes
1:30 This show has a nice smooth frame rate of 24 wallpapers per second.
🤣 too right
Arcane is absolutely incredible! I remember being in love with the look when the studio made that K/DA Pop/Stars music video. I was so amazed by the first story arc and I think there needs to be more tragic things like that in movies and media. So many aspects were all crafted at such a high level that any part can be marveled at in it's own right. I wasn't expecting you to dissect those scenes, that was so informative. Thank you I would love to see more!
Yeah that KDA/Pop stars video was dope! I agree about needing more tragic/deeper level drama like that in particularly animated content. I love that it's also showing a wider audience that animation can cover adult material, it doesn't all need to only be happy/kids content.
4:43 you have given voice to my soul. sigh. I just needed to see someone say that in the way you did lol. Vi is a work of art.
I LOVE these videos you make! Interesting, knowledgeable, a perfect balance between appreciative and technical. Keep making more!
Thank you! She is, absolutely, a work of art.
You nailed how perfectly they nailed EVERYTHING in this masterpiece of a series! 👍
thanks! Can't wait for season 2!
@@RobynO_O Used to work as an Environment Artist in games so I never ran out of things to drool over even after seeing Season 1 four times.
It's very dope! I like your dissection of the fight scene and I did watch the whole video!
Thank you !
I vote for an hour long breakdown - I felt like you were just getting warmed up in this video lol!
Thanks for a great review...and yes, I liked your breakdown of the animation treatment.....
Awesome, thank you !
the Tales of Runeterra lore videos are equally as amazing as the Arcane animation is. I highly recommend them.
I will check them out !
I loved your analysis, because it helped me better understand how Arcane impacted me the way it did. I knew that the artwork in Arcane is a major part of its impact, but I had very little understanding of how the animation was done. Wow! Now I'm even more impressed with it than I already was. Thanks for opening up those aspects of its wonder for me.
that's awesome to hear! You're welcome
I love these kind of videos
Make one for every episode…
This is great!
Great vid. Interesting that you would concentrate on one slice of a fight scene to highlight the animation quality. Other streamers have approached the fighting from a technical perspective and have also been highly impressed with the realism and attention to detail. Indeed, this is a phenomenal show, in nearly every way (I agree with you on the music, if only one or two tracks that don’t quite work imo).
The sound track is amazing in my opinion with the exception of maybe two songs. However, after re watching this show many times those particular songs aren't so out of place in the series and work pretty well where they are. I just wouldn't want to listen to them by themselves like riding in my truck.
Wow! What a breakdown. I was obsessed with the camera mimicry in this show, and this breakdown captured it beautifully. You also helped us understand why the fight scenes felt so visceral. We have seen violence in cartoons before (eg. Invincible) but this is more realistic. Thank you and hoping you do more.
You're welcome, thanks for the feedback and I'm glad you found the video worthwhile ! Definitely planning to do more in the future, my next video is a breakdown of another fight scene.
I love the breakdowns actually it was really interesting for me
that's great to hear, thanks :)
Thanks for all those insights. It is very interesting and educating: there are very few such subjects around, and so we are all complete beginers on that topic.
Regarding how everyone became familiar with plot, character builing and arcs, by watching critics ... i truly believe many are ready and eager to learn about the "showing to tell" part.
I'm glad you ejoyed the video! I agree, it's a great way to learn
People seem to prefer the Ekko vs Jinx due to its sheer artistry but that Vi fight in Episode 3 is just phenomenal, for the reasons highlighted about the opening few moments to what happens after. You can literally see her tiring, her form gets looser as her strength is sapped from the exertion, just lifting the cestas becomes more and more of a challenge by itself, her breathing getting deeper as the fatigue sets in, the huge gasp as she lifts her hands. Its visual poetry.
They've clearly thought about and designed every frame to tell the story of the fight and its all there on screen. It might not have the visual flair of Ekko vs Jinx but damn, its the best fight I've ever seen in animation and one of the best in any visual media.
I definitely agree with you there. Fight-wise, choreography and body mechanics-wise I think it's better than the Ekko and Jinx fight.
xD would have been a cool edit it you stuck an animated mustache for the "with a twist part" hehe.
I know! I wanted to but ran out of time
I enjoy watching you, so you go ahead and do anything.
Thanks !
U r so bold I like it , I love ur content plz upload this type of stuffs , yooo dude 😍😍😍😍
Ha ha thanks !
I got that far into the video…more please :)
good to know, thank you!
I want more, I enjoyed your perspective on the masterpiece that is Arcane
thanks!
I'm trying to make something like Arcane with UV projection and paint over in Krita! love its art.
I watched Arcane and love it so much
Definitely my favorite TV series to date (although tbh I don't watch a lot of TV haha)
I also love Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse and have watched analysis of its animation style as well, so it's cool to have an idea of the similarities and differences between it and Arcane
14:14 Oh no...
FYI It took them 6 years to make Arcane.
There is a video on RUclips from the animation lead if I recall.
Yeah I read some articles about it and they said that too. I'm not surprised, it's a monumental amount of work and development
@@RobynO_O Season 2 won't take nearly as long though. They said that there was a massive learning curve with season 1 and they didn't have any connections with Hollywood or actors.
Season 2 will likely take between 2-3 years to make because they hired a project lead that has experience and a lot of connections with Hollywood/actors, etc, etc. They are also hiring a lot more animators right now for season 2. So basically they have much more experience now and are getting way more help. So it won't take another 6 years this time around. Late 2023 at the very earliest, but probably 2024.
You got my sub. Make more!
thanks
cheers
Vis waist in the game is not unrealistic.
Its *_uncommon._*
I'll agree the Arcane version is not only more common but more fitting.
Shes a brawler, not a runway model.
She would most likely be more muscular and even keeled than her ingame version.
That doesnt make it unrealistic tho.
I know girls with that body, yes plural.
"Unrealistic" is has become a buII$h¡t term used online by jealous women who doesnt have that body type.
If you dont mean it *_literally,_* you should avoid using it.
If you *_do_* mean it literally, I can only assume youre one of those jealous women.
I have heard nothing but bad things about league of legends. so I only watched it last week.....oh my glob . it is sooooo good.
I was in the same boat until I saw some of the graphics for Arcane and knew I just had to put aside my biases against LOL and watch it!
What I like most of the fighting animation is that it feels proper solid not like that garbage you find in Kung Fu Panda and that sort of “kid friendly” impact animation (Reya and the last dragon, so disappoint with fighting). The one other animation that had such good fighting animation is Altered Carbon Resleeved. You didn’t say spoiler alert.
I agree, best part is how real and solid it feels.
I had text near the beginning saying WARNING : there may be spoilers in this video
@@RobynO_O oh no I missed that I was working while listening
@@CrimsonOrguss sorry bro, I actually said it too but cut that part coz the intro was getting too long
@@CrimsonOrguss wow. Dissing on a good movie tho
Zoe, you'd be definitely be Zoe main in LOL. ruclips.net/video/IZF_mSY0zVI/видео.html
Anyways, I am re watching this again. It has that higher level of quality. Happy NY kid.
She's cute! I love her hair / hat. Thank you, happy new year to you too!
You're dope Yo :D
😁 ha ha thanks
looks...like..oil..paint.......looks....good....
the music? ........................................................................................ it was supposed to be volatile, different, everytime pow pow or jinx had hallucinations... it did that screech sound, ehhhh what songs go with that? no lets do a screech soundand go into mozart.......... makes sense right? since most people like that song? i think?
Nice analysis....u r so pretty anyways.
Thank you !
You look like a very young grandma no 'fense
Amazing, that's exactly the look I was going for
hey Robin u sHoUlD cHeCk oUt EdEn tOo
thanks for the recommendation, will do!
@@RobynO_O oh crap ur actually gona do it! Well I should warn u it's full blowN 2.5 Cellshaded NPR
I dropped this series after 2 episodes. Some really mediocre writing.
I had no expectations with this show so I half watched the first episode while doing other things. Half way through the 2nd ep, I stopped and re watched the first ep again. I was so blown away at what I was watching, I knew it deserved my full attention. Watching others react or review or just talk about this masterpiece is almost as fun as watching it for the first time. I enjoyed your upload and decided to sub and see what else you are into and look forward to your next effort.
I can relate ! Started with sort of low expectations and was blown away ! Thanks, I hope whatever video I do next is interesting for you
Shoot man, I've watched videos of psychologists doing breakdowns of the characters in this show. Riot really did their homework. Now I get to see animators do breakdowns. It kind of verifies my sense that this is really a bad ass show.
Arcane IS a masterpiece! I was playing League of Legends when it first came out and stayed part of that community for many years. For fans of the game, I was a Soraka main, and that's about it! My Fiancé was the one who taught me how to support him at bottom lane and it's one of the things that brought us close to each other and the rest of our friend group. Nothin' like sitting in a house the size of a garage, sitting on couches with tray tables and laptops in front of us, smoking cigarettes & loading in for a match while listening to whatever dubstep trap was most popular - "Turn Down for What?"
The Story and Lore of League of Legends has always been GOLD & the team who worked on Arcane... They Did It. They captured what the players LOVED and FELT about the game. The complexity and diversity of the characters fighting for their lives among this strange universe... seriously, everything you described!
Like you, I could go on and on and ON... so I won't, LOL
You're awesome Robyn! Love ya! TTFN
I can definitely see that people will want to play League of Legends after watching Arcane because the characters seem so awesome and so does the whole world. It's great to hear from a fan of the game that they did it so well ! Rare that a show translates so well from the source material ! Thanks Reila !
This was incredible, my first video of yours and I'll definitely be watching more if you do stuff like this again! Please do!
As a third year animation student that fight scene breakdown was absolutely entrancing, i zoned out completely just focusing listening to that. Big props for this one, please do more like this. Next up spider-verse perhaps?
Thanks! My next video is a breakdown of that awesome fight between Vi and Sevika in episode 5 , so hopefully you'll find that interesting too ! I'll also do breakdowns of other movies and shows in the future
@@RobynO_O Great! One of my favourite scenes from the show.
Can't wait!
It helps that with must have been great advice from someone who has actual fight experience advised in these fight scenes. Really great fight scenes with real body positions, reactions and focus in real situations make this brilliant. Robyn0 just pointed out these things (and did a great job of it if I must say).
The thing that has stuck out to me is the real life aspects they get right in this show. Psychologists (yes real psychologists) have done break downs on the characters and how genuine they really are and now we get to enjoy a real animator break down whats right with this show. It all adds up to a bad ass show.
@@jeffh709 Yeah fr dude! I'm a huge league lore nerd so naturally I absolutely loved the show anyway, but they really did go above and beyond. Can't wait for s2!
@@legadith2077 I don't play myself but I watch my nerd daughter play so much I kinda know what the deal is. It's fun especially when she is loudly complaining about dumb ass team mates LOL. It is a great lore and I include myself as a fan. Arcane is fabulous.
While I love all the fight scenes in Arcane, it's the first fight between Vi & Sevika that really impresses me from an animation standpoint. It's just so brilliantly choreographed.
That fight is amazing !!!!!!! I could watch it on repeat. Absolutely incredible
Gotta agree on this one
The "mixed media" feel, especially the scribbles that appear on-screen whenever Powder/Jinx is stressed, is highly reminiscent of comic book artist Bill Sienkiewicz, who I think is really good at depicting madness. He would do really wild things like glue photocopies of earlier panels or even lace doilies to the boards that got sent off to the printer. Goodness knows what the poor printer had to do to turn those boards into 4-color prints.
So much of this show looks like someone at Fortiche read Elektra: Assassin by Sienkiewicz, which is a good thing.
that's a really cool observation, I googled Bill Sienkiewicz and it's a really interesting mixed media art style and such a cool way to do graphics for comics
Not as much of an animation geek, cannot speak on it nearly as eloquently as this video did, but it is quite the feat. I'm not even into League, and damn, it was good
This is amazing! You picked up the details which deserve more compliments. Watch this series frame-by-frame literally blow my mind. I wonder how Fortiche made the fight scenes that are so dynamic and powerful. There are a lot of dramatic squeezes, Stretches, and even deformed (especially in Jinx's scene). I even wonder is that possible to animate this in 3D animation. This is incredible!
Thanks! They must have had amazing rigs to work with. The fight scenes are pretty groundbreaking
Great video. A few remarks.
- Yeah, every frame of the show is a work of art. I wanted to take a few snapshots of the show because I managed to find the show in 4k, and... I ended up taking, like, a hundred. ^^;
- The budget was quite considerable, BUT compared to a Disney or Dreamworks or Sony feature film, it was pretty low. The head of character animation said in a interview that they had like four riggers.
- There have been "some changes" in the character design : the understatement of the century. I didn't know anything about LoL before I watched Arcane, so I've discovered Violet and Jinx through the show, and when I see them in other videos... it's not THEM that I see. The expressiveness of the characters, their EYES, is one of the first things that impressed me. To me, what Fortiche has done is just sensational. In Jinx's eyes, you can "see" her tragedy. I don't see much in the other Jinxes' eyes.
- Side note : you act all badass saying "motherfucker" less than ten seconds in, and then bleep it ! It doesn't many any sense ! :D
More analysis please! I loved Vi and her fight scenes. Got me into boxing 😊
I used to box and it reignited my passion for it!
this was great and i really enjoyed the breakdown at the end! more of those please! i’m sure there’s probably quite a few scenes you enjoyed from arcane and i’d love to hear about those as well if you get the time. :))
oh and i did watch till the end by the way!
Thanks ! My next video is going to be a breakdown of the fight in episode 5 between Vi and Sevika .Thanks for watching til the end, I'm glad it was interesting enough to keep your attention !
@@RobynO_O can’t wait! and yes, the video was very interesting; staying until the end wasn’t a chore by any means.
id love more animation disecting ! its soo good. ty. i love art !
more will be coming!
dope!
It looks pretty cool I like how they mixed the 2d with 3d in this, you should do more videos were you analyze animation that you like.
It's so awesome ! OK cool thanks I will
everything being perfect except some of the soundtrack is so true imo
glad Im not the only one who felt that way!
Probably the best show ever made.
3 years later, Im still analysing it compared to a few other shows...
And Im leaning towards yes.
Please do more! Maybe some of the Love Death + Robots stuff :D
OK maybe I will! Shorter videos though lol the editing actually takes quite long ha ha
Loved your analysis!
Thank you !
The reason the characters in LOL have small waists, long legs and big arms and weapons is because of the camera angle and size of the characters on the screen. They need to create a strong silhouette for each character because they are so far away, it's just form follows function.
if you've ever seen riots cinematic shorts then you know why this turned out so good
More breakdowns of the animation plz
Hi Robyn !
I'm also working in animation and I only discovered your channel now, through your breakdowns of Arcane, and GOSH ! You're killing it ! I wouldn't mind watching a whole series of 20+ minutes animation breakdown of yours of this serie's iconic scenes (there are just so much of them ! It's a real tresure trove of content).
You've got an instant sub from my part !
Keep up the good work !
Hey, thanks! That's great to hear! Glad you found my channel!
Yo please do an in-depth analysis of your favorite scenes
OK sure!
These are all the kinds of things I've been preaching (though much more thoughtfully put together than I do) to my friends and colleagues that even if you have no investment in League's lore or characters (I didn't either), that this is literally a masterpiece that if you are in this industry, be it animation, rigging, texturing, concept, cinematography, etc, etc, etc, THIS. SHOULD. BE. ON. YOUR. RADAR. The story is as accessible as any fantasy story introducing you to an unfamiliar world, and quickly establishes believable grounded characters. The amount of visual storytelling instead of relying on exposition is fantastic. Fortiche nails every single aspect (soundtrack is mostly good...haha). There are scenes burned into my memory from the amount of times I've rewatched them, and every once in a while I frame-by-frame sections to appreciate the attention to detail, especially in the animations, and I just want to absorb all of it into my skillset. I really hope they bring home recognition that it truly deserves from the Annie Awards in Feb, because I know lots of people that still dismiss Arcane. I've even had colleagues comment they thought it was mocapped and it's left me speechless and wanting to punch things.
I'm with you ! I still get shocked when I ask people if they've watched it yet and they have no interest in it either because they hate league of legends or they don't like watching animated stuff. They don't realize just how high on another level this is. It has to get an Annie award, I think people should protest if it doesn't!
Great format.
Do we know this was NOT mocaped? it looks like they mocaped the shit out of it.
It really doesn't look like mocap animation. I recently read an article where the director of animation said they didn't use mocap because they didn't want to run the risk of an uncanny valley effect with how semi-realistic the characters are.
Arcane gave me a slap for the end of the year 😅😊, thank you for the video 😊.
Same ! You're welcome 😊
Hey, I just stumbled across your video by chance and I must say: Congratulations! You present your topics in an entertaining and interesting fashion. And what a lucky find that is... Arcane absolutely ignited my interest in animation. I've just installed Blender a couple of hours ago and I'm really eager to learn about modelling and animation. Hence finding your channel was SUPER nice. Keep up the great work! :)
That's great to hear! Good luck on your animation journey, it's a lot of fun!
well done on the breakdown. curious what type of animation you create…cell, cg, commercial, artistic? Arcane is a masterpiece…almost shocking in it’s excellence. Thanks for the video. You are super watchable & lovely as can be (subscribed 👍🏼).
thanks! I'm mostly a 3d generalist and motion graphics and 2d puppet animator. Most of my work has been on commercial work and for the past few years, AR and VR. But I've done a bit of most of what you mentioned in my career
i can see why people like it but i have many issues with the show:
>Jayce is a prodigy wonder boy who becomes the overman only to get turned into a cowardly, reactionary and clueless idiot that gets ordered around by other people
>Viktor was the best character of the show but his story often feels like its being on hold bcs its other peoples time to shine. his arc has a bad pacing in the 2nd half
>the corruption of the council makes 0 sense. it is treated as something vr bad by Jayce and even Heimerdinger the good guy mini sage is on it
>but then he just randomly calls it "being to comfortable in good times" and then gets voted out (is it corruption or just some harmless alliance building ?)
>Jinx felt a little unbelievable at times with how her meltdown align perfectly with "situations that could be missunderstood"
>the proto homo erotic stuff with Vi and Caitlyn felt very cowardly, they were to afraid to make them explicitly lesbian so they do this under the rug thing
>the 2nd half of the show had barely any world building. it feels like its just 2-4 characters in a music video taking their turn
>the underground is way to homogenious. why would they all follow some tavern owner ? and then just the other guy that replaces him ?
>how does 1 guy even lead such a place ? he is just a tavern owner
>the mother of Mel (the black councler) and their relationship feels like some extremely questionable meta narrative about certain aspects of the real world experience of black people
>the kids at the Tree and their whole existence also undermines the undercity since it shows that even within reach of them a better life is so easily possible.
>it is NEVER explicitly justified how the relationship of the upper city and the lower city came to be and why it exists. so the whole thing feels like a story telling prop
there is so much more... but overall i can see why everyone likes it.
it is a unique show where i really dislike so much of it but i can still recommend it for the visuals.
edit: but one thing i will criticize about the visuals, how much they milk that Jayce/Viktor back-shot of muscular Adonis next to frail Wimp that is about to die. at first its very powerful but they inflate it by doing it so many times. just a little less indulgence would have had more impact.
Ok soo, some of these are a bit weitd for criticism. It looks like you have a big problem with subtext, and if something isn't explicitly said you don't get it.
>Jayce is a science protigy who was dropped into a political environment because of that, it was made really clear that the guy have no experiance or idea what's going on, and he handles thes tension between the two city accordingly.
>Heimerdinger isn't corrupt, the whole sceene is abouth how nearly every councyl member has their own shit, and thrn there is him. Who is so disatached from reality that he diesn't even notice. This flaw of his is continually shown, and ultimatelly this is what gets him removed. He usn't corrupt, he is well meaning, but kinda lives in his own fantasy word and is unable to notice corruption and other problems around him.
>Vander isn't just a bartender. He has a history as a leader, even as somebody who lead attsaks againts the upper city. And he isn't doing it alone, he is just one of the most prominent figure.
>The relationship between the two city diesn't have to be explicitly justifyed. Especially when the important part of it was shown repetitevly. Lover city: working class part, where the mines with toxic gasses, and industrial plants with toxic wastes were. Upper class part didn't care, class divide strengthens. Some other divides like how the use of air wechicles and later hextech furter escslate this, as the upper city no longer uses the lower city dicks for trade, cutting them away even more. It's all there, we don't need an i fodumb abouth Piltower's ~300 year history and class strugle.
@@i.cs.z >Heimer is shown in the theater to be in on the dealings since he as well is discussing stuff with foreign politicians with the implication that "one hand washes the other" stuff is going on. if he is not on it than that would be even worse since it would mean that he is very stupid. something that contradicts his whole character.
>Viktor is in the same position as Jayce and his actions are way more sensible than his. it makes no sense. they need to explain to me why a science prodigy is making these decisions. i dont think they did a good job in portraying him as a character with integrity. Jayce does stupid or intelligent things depending on what they want to set up in relation to the character drama.
>Vander: same thing. they have to show me more than just a small cutscene of 3 people at the start if they want me to take the setting of the undercity for more than just a prop.
>i dont need exposition for 300 years of class struggle. i need justifications for the actions that the people do. if anything the Hextech should have improved the lives of the people in the undercity since it is in the interest of the uppercity that they dont revolt or do stupid shit. but such a crucial and reasonable development is put on hold by people telling Jayce platitudes about how he has to wait and make more inventions that he can present to other nations. it feels cheap and undermines the setting.
i dont demand Lord of the Rings but i often felt like things were not reasonable or set up properly but happened nevertheless bcs they have the goal of character conflict first and everything else is an after thought.
@@Senumunu Ok so no. Heimerdinger do not sceem with politicians in that sceen. The whole thing is abouth how all the others are in their private boxes talking, making deals, and then there is Heimer, who just sitting there, eyes closed listening to music, in what looks like the "public" area. He is also the only one Jayce doesn't sake hands with.
@@i.cs.z but this means he is stupid/naive while being hundreds of years old. it is even worse...
but i will concede this 100%. it is only one minor point among many
@@Senumunu Yes, he being blind, a bit naive and out if touch is one of his main characteristics.... Feature not bug. You know, character flaws, just becazse he is old he isn't this omnipotent unaffable being.
You know what after all the episode Silco and Viktor is the most likeable character for me. I actually feel sad when silco died. 🙂
I can definitely see that. That's also one of the things that is so amazing about this show- the characters are pretty much all grey characters- even the "evil" people still have some humanity and you can kind of see where they're coming from in the bad things they do. They're still people we can empathize with. I also have an affinity for Silko. His relationship with Jinx was pretty sweet.
@@RobynO_O this gonna be long reply.
idk if this make sense but, silco as vander brother and vander as vi and powder father even though they're not blood related, silco have to take over vander's authority from the undercity to move forward his plan to make undercity a better place from his pov in the process killed vander and other character by powder by accident. And vander last word was, take care of powder but she kinda abandoned her by her sister and silco took powder as powder was the last member of the family.
Fast forward, silco used to live underwater and love fishes so jinx made him the fish like rocket launcher and his last word o(ㄒoㄒ).
Not only those character but i love how riot build up the characters. Even those 2 dudes who appear for 2 eps and the scientist who turn to dust. Etc.
@@notjinx3545 that makes sense with their relationships and how it all progressed! Yeah all the characters feel really well rounded, it's surprising when a character doesn't last long (ie, dies soon after we meet them) because all the characters are so detailed and full of life and personality
@@RobynO_O btw I'm practicing bouncing ball which you have recommended. First it was easy using first frame copy for all frames but oh boy drawing new ball every frame is not easy, maintaining the volume is the hardest.
@@notjinx3545 glad you're doing the exercise ! A lot of people skip it cos they think it's gonna be too easy but you're right, it's so hard to maintain the volume and keep it looking like the same ball !
10:44 What animated fights are you watching? I feel like the best fights are in animation. The animators are free to make motion feel snappy and emphasize impacts. Although, Arcane is definitely on another level since it oozes high budget. I often feel like the worst fights are in live-action since everything is hidden with jump cuts and awkward choreography that feels unnatural.
I feel like fighting in animation often falls down one or two faulty paths. Either 1) the animation is aimed for kids or teens, and so the fights have to be more focussed on defense, running away, and even when someone gets hurt they arent hurt in a way that would be realistic. Its toned down for its audience. Or, 2) They used mocap, which for me is as bad as fight scenes in live action film, because at the end of the day, its a person doing the movement and so it still feels slightly stiff and/or awkward.
The reason the Arcan fight scenes stand out to me is because it does neither of the two previously mentioned things. Its gritty: teeth are knocked out, bones crunch, noses bleed, spit flies everywhere. Even more so, the women get roughed up. I feel like often in media when women fight they dont actually get hurt in a way that is gruesome. Like, Vi spitting out a tooth? That was the first time i'd seen a female character do that in a show/film. Seeing the characters that were fighting not fighting in a "pretty" way, or a "clean" way, made it feel so much more realistic.
Also, none of Arcane is mocapped. In fact, there are some frames where the model is stretched slightly out of proportion in order to make the animation smoother and make the fight choreography not feel stiff, like it often does with live action or motion capture.
Fight scenes are great when done right, and this is one of the few times ive really seen it done right. Maybe thats just me and the media ive watched, but idk