I was WRONG about the NUNCHAKU. . . or was I? - Reply to Milani Fitness
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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When I read the title I thought "No way!" As a martial artists with over 30 years of experience, and a true fan of Nunchucks (well, at least for all those years before 24-yrs old), I can absolutely claim that they are the worse weapon I've ever trained with. Flashy? Yes. Fun? Oh yeah. But for self-defense or simply weapon-fighting, they're garbage. No matter who or what I have to face: human (empty-handed or armed), animal, zombies, dragons... I'd rather use a crowbar or a simple eskrima stick than these self-hurting thingy.
Oh well, it was such a relieve to hear what Shad said in the beginning of the video ;)
So they are just the masochists training tool?
@@James-bw4np Yes.
If one's only have access to nunchuck and nunchuck only, you better off cutting off the rope/chain and use it as two short stick lol
“Crowbar” ah, I see you are a man of culture as well
I mean you said flashy and fun, which is the least effective way to use nunchaku. In simplest terms, most people see kung fu movies and believe that is the way. However, no it's at first a farm tool for threshing, in combat though it can be used to entangle and snare weaponry as well as disarming. Then it can be used to club people, swing on it's chain for advanced leverage swings, and strangle people. Now as a war weapon it's not useful at all, but as a general weapon it is. There is a huge distinction there.
I'm a white belt and asked my martial arts teacher what he thinks and he laughed and said "i would rather fight a person with a lamp than nunchuks"
Using lamps to knock someone’s lights out... how ironic
You can break the lamp and use the sharp glass as a weapon.
For this I would recommend a four cell or at least a three cell MagLite (the ones with the D cell batteries).
Obligatory "I love lamp" comment.
if its a metal Maglite, you are talking about a formidable weapon, its almost a mace
The pinnacle of internet entertainment. Two people convincing each other who's stick is better
The boys in the bathroom be like:
I think they should have a stick fight in the bathroom
@@priceyblackwinter2338 or jousting lol
A story as old as time itself.
Yes, it's a stick measuring contest. ^_^
The fact that you wont find any historical examples of it being seriously used as a weapon in real combat really says enough about its usefulness as a weapon.
Most martial arts wasn’t for fight but medication n honing in a skill. Kung fu is cool. Wooshuu cooler but it’s arts not fighting:) partially cause during those times things were pretty peaceful n monks needed something to do other than kick and break things on their nuts hashas
@A cute Lil' Mint Also, it was better than nothing for most people who would otherwise never have the confidence to fight back.
It was also the primary revenue generating option for solders and generals known for martial prowess other than the direct funds they recieve from their lord/master/court.
@@acutelilmint8035 Why not just learn Hema?
Tradition is not a valid answer
@@lazyscholar7932 Right. So its the illusion they can fight, and for profit.
Sounds like a scam to me.
Compare it to any other combat style, if you can call martial arts that. They are an art, a decoration, a display of agility and discipline. They are pointless in comparison to many other alternatives
@@Blessed_V0id Successfully debunked MMA
I love the sheer anger he has when talking about all the insults he hurls at them relative to sticks, and how you have to ruin a perfectly good stick to make them.
ruclips.net/video/0BsBWCwxH9k/видео.html Huh?
He's also looking at it completely wrong though, which makes the anger even funnier.
He’s 100% correct, humor aside.
My Goju instructor said it best. "There's a reason why no one gave a damn about the nunchucks until Bruce Lee came along. People don't learn to use the nunchucks because it's useful. They learn to use the nunchucks because Bruce Lee made it look cool!"
Sometimes, form truly beats function
Wing Chun in a nutshell
And ninja turtles
knowing how martial arts movies flourish their choreography as a way of stating "This man is above the rest", I'm willing to say, they intentionally flourished Bruce Lee's mastery.
that's not Bruce Lee being expert with nunchucks, that's the movie applying visual embellishment to the product, and we fell for it.
it's like finding an old scripture that states "and man produced object out of thin air!" without knowing that *they* might have *NOT* known that was a trick, and that one cannot produce things out of thin air, and mistake it for the truth.
My Goju instructor teaches us nunchucks but not because they're great weapon but because they develop mechanical skills for grapling and general weapon handling. We first drill nunchucks and then put them aside and practice jointlocks, throws etc.
What is a lance: A stick with a sharp stick at the end.
What is a Rifle: A stick that shoots.
What is a bow: A flexible stick bound with a rope that shoots a smaller sharp stick.
@@EngineerOfChaos we can go farther. Planes are just a cross made of flat sticks powered by spinny-sticks (with or without explosive fuel-air mixture) that fire super fast, explosive sticks or drop fat explosive sticks.
Well really the lance is just a really big sharp stick itself. A spear is a sharp stick with a sharp stick at the end.
Easy to confuse, I know.
So a lightsaber is a stick-like weapon?
@@Maddog3060 It's a stick that produces a REALLY hot stick made out of die.
"Erectile Stick-function"
"It's just worse stick!"
"A stick that had a stroke"
"Mentally disabled stick"
I'm wheezing
Edit:
"A stick that was dropped when it was a twig"
Conjoined twins of the weapon world
The "Mentally Disabled Sticks" got me good🤣🤣😭😭
I LOVE IT XDDD , retarden cousin of stick
I'm also adding to that by saying "A stick that was dropped when it was a twig"
PRO TIP: NEVER conceal anything behind your back, lower spine area. If you fall on that area, you could seriously damage your spine, if not paralyze yourself.
It's also A bad place to try to reach for anything in an intense situation.
You hear that witcher!
@acebigaloo7991 I use to bodyguard and was executive protection. Have had guys permanently ruin their back from this. Don't talk about what you don't know or live.
@@johnthewolfheart8671I had seen people store knives just below their back. It worked fine it seems
Main takeaway from this video: Stick is the underappreciated MVP
DONT DISRESPECT STICC
Make it a pointy one and you can conquer part of the world.
Bo staff > nunchucks
Can't beat the OG Mark 1 Club
I'm legitimately surprised they aren't mentioned in the geneva convention. They hurt, a good sturdy stick is nigh-indestructibile, and what happens when they break your stick? You just have TWO sticks. They're simply too powerful.
I am a stick!
08:45
Did John Wick ever kill someone with Nunchucks?
Nope
Did John Wick ever kill someone with a Pencil?
Yes
Checkmate Nunchucks
Edit:
It has come to my attention that John Wick has now killed someone with nunchucks. Absolutely incredible, A pencil was inadequate to show just how deadly he is.
I mean pens are mighty than a sword (ask The Joker)
And what is a pencil than a very tiny stick with lead in it. One more points for stick
@@wokenlunatic2849 Pencils can also disappear
Then again, John Wick can kill people with damn near anything
even paper is deadly. You ever have a paper cut? Those fuckers never stop bleeding!
Fun fact about the Kinder Surprise ban in the U.S.: Kinder Surprise eggs are not _specifically_ banned, they are merely a casualty of a general ban against non-edible items within food products.
Lol so pitted fruit is illegal? 😂😂😂
@@ryanchou2846 Fruit isn't regulated by that specific portion of the law (Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, 21 U.S. Code § 342 (d) (1) and (3)), probably for that exact reason.
@@coryzilligen790 haha thanks! I was just kidding tho
The same thing happened when Nestle released Nestle Magic. A chocolate coated plastic ball that contained a plastic Disney figure. They were pulled quite soon after hitting store shelves.
Another thing I just remembered, wearing the forearm armor used in KenDo you can easily and painlessly block a nunchacku strike, but a stick (shinai) will hurt and leave bruises.
My wife just said, "You are watching another nunchucks video?" Yeah. Apparently I am.
Another youtube rabbit hole I got trapped in
Felt ashamed?
You're wife actually said the word, "nunchuks"???? Lucky!
I didn't know tomato marriage was even legal. You learn something new every day
ruclips.net/video/Z2b3RAckmEc/видео.html
I thought this was going to be an apology video with the initial tone but the sheer confidence of this man saying "they're actually far worse" gave me whiplash. Never change, Shad, never change
The Chad Shad.
He's become well-established prick which demonstrates Dunning-Kruger with too many rambling words.
About the whole "experience needed to judge a thing" point a stand up line comes to mind, when a hackler told the comedian, that he doesn't have children, so he can't judge parenting. The response was: "Lady... I can't drive helicopters either. But if I see one crashed on a tree, I know somebody fucked up" 😂
Never seen any of your videos, but I love that you're incredibly quippy and sarcastic but with absolutely no hint of malice or being condescending. It's a very rare and subtle skill.
I get the sense that Shad loves to argue, but he loves people more.
“They are actually far worse” shad is adamant in his opinion.
@Shangex the ABSOLUTE MADLAD
This is exactly what i was thinking. Lol
If you simply don't have wrong opinions you'll always be right. It's really that simple - just don't say shit you aren't sure is true.
Based af
I think id rather train in striking or grappling then nunchucks. It's not something id have lieing around like a baseball bat or a knife. I know some people have them laying around but I'd rather practice with my bastard sword or my bb gun than nunchucks. "You literally have to break a perfectly good stick to make nunchuks! Theyre just sticks that have erectile stick function." lmfao
"Speak softly and carry a big stick." -Roosevelt
"Get a big gurthy stick." -Shad
shad for president
@@toastytoast9800 Unfortunately, he's australian, so he can't. But he could be king by conquest! All hail Lord Shadrick!
That's what she said....
"Godendag!" - The Flemish
Every knows you don't mess with some thats got a *THICK* stick
Double your stick and you almost have a staff. Arguably one of the simplest weapons to learn with double the reach and equal speed. A proper staff can give a sword a run for its money. Not as cool but very effective.
In my opinion staff and sword fighting is cooler than sword against a sword
fun fact: end of a whip moves faster only because whip diameter gets smaller towards the end, and because momentum has to conserved it speeds up. Force is similar, but speed increases so if there is any small knife-like tip on the end it's gonna do more damage to soft materials like flesh.
Edit: sry, I wrote that comment before you explained it.
Thats what you get for commenting before finishing the video lol
Why not just delete the comment instead of adding an edit to say you were wrong?
That first 30 seconds were the plot twist of the century
This a m night shamalan level twist
Immediately got my like right there. Admittedly, I'm not much good with eastern martial arts, but I did try using a pair when I was younger. After a few self-inflicted clonks and bruises and lack of effect on the target, I had obtained a permanent distaste for the things
Edited for grammar. Was quite flustered and got ahead of my brain there
I almost heard Giorno's theme
yes
EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED!
Spear/Sword: "pointy end goes in the other guy"
Axe: "swing with full force"
Stick/Mace:"keep striking til he stops breathing"
Nunchuck: "stop hitting yourself, please"
The weapon of the bully, except it's your own weapon. Quit hitting yourself. Quit hitting yourself. Quit hitting yourself.
hahaha yes bro so true
Flail: HA! He lacks my length. Pleb.
A sword is only moderately useful without any training, because without edge control, it's basically a worse version of a metal stick. That does not make the sword a worse weapon than a metal stick. The capabilities of an untrained user should not be the standards that determine what is or isn't a good weapon.
That being said, it is *a* factor in a weapon's utility. A club's greater effectiveness in the hands of an untrained user are one of the club's greatest advantages, and nobody can take that away from Mr. Club (if you try, you'll get bashed inelegantly about the head). The nunchuck's ineffectiveness in the hands of an untrained user is likewise a point against it. But it isn't the whole argument by itself.
I agree with Shad overall, but I think that a few times over the course of the video he did overstate his case in this regard.
@@TheDrCN true, but it doesn't exactly take a master to figuer out that hitting people with the sharp side is how swords work.
"Nunchucks are just mentally disabled sticks!" I have never something so hilariously correct before. And I love how he describes it in such a way that even a caveman could understand the concepts he's describing. Love it, keep up the good work. 👍
The first written record of nunchaku-like weapon was the Chinese military compendium of 武經總要; Wujing Zongyao compiled during the Northern Song dynasty:
"鐵鏈夾棒，本出西戎，馬上用之，以敵漢之步兵。其狀如農家打麥之枷，以鐵飾之，利於自上擊下，故漢兵善用者巧於戎人。"[9]
English Translation:
"Two sticks connected by metal chain, originated from Xirong, used on horses in combat against Han infantry, shaped similarly to flails used by farmers to sow wheats, iron-decorated, easy to strike below from above, Han soldiers who were able to master could exercise with excellence against the Xirongs."
a nunchuck is objectively a better weapon when it is broken and becomes two sticks
"you have to damage a perfectly good stick to make nunchakus" lol
nah man , he used a wooden stick for all these examples.. TRY USING A METAL NUNCHAKUS .see how much he can destroy a wood plank , and . also the way i see it, the nunchakus are faster than a stick if you use it deceptivly. a sttick is heavier so theres also more time to recover , the nunchakus are light and faster , the oponent would not be fast enough to GRAB the nunchakus ,like you can with a stick .if you use a metal nunchakus deceptivly in a fight and with foot work ,aiming for the head ,(needs training) its good to end a fucking fight ..thats the main goal after all ,right inst it ?
Why am I seeing you in the comment section of nearly every video I watch?
@@BitmapJack if we are allowing metal then a mace or sword are far superior. Also a stick still has metal nunchucks beat
Or you could have a metal rod, which is basically a metal stick.
@@keepermovin5906 HAHAHAHAHAHAH OH YEA,, IM GONNA CARRY A MACE AROUND THE STREETS for self defense, im gonna put in on my pocket, no one gonna notice HAHUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH im just talking about concealing a weapon for self defense .a telescopic baton and a metal nunchakus could be good..at least a nunchakus have also the intimidation aspect that you can spin it around a look like a ninja turtle lol
"A pen has good penetration"
Shad Later: "Analyzing the Effectiveness of a Pencil As a Weapon in John Wick"
Oh Jason Bourne used one too!
We already know that from batman dark knight. Joker proved it
@@James-bw4np when exactly? And in which film?
Worked for the Joker.
@@vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489 He did. Against the Israeli dude.
So imagine a world where a mighty hero had the worlds greatest weapon. Strong offensively and defensively, can be weilded by anyone and mastered by few, lethal, creative, and tactical. A legendary weapon... Then the stick broke in half and was "fixed" with yarn and ended the legacy of the hero by him hitting himself. A great story.
Well, Jokes on you. That Heros Name was Michelangelo, and he did just fine with his Nunchaku!
@@Hegemol900 it was a joke
Although it's not really efficient, you can even thrust with a stick. That's already a huge advantage.
"Erectile stickfunction"
"It does happen to 1 in 5 sticks."
Shad bringing awareness to today's issues.
Now I’m scared
I f*cking died at this 😂😂😂
You are half the stick your father was!
that bit made me think he was Matt Easton for a second. lol!
Next week‘s topic: Premature machicolations
The best way to use nunchucks is to throw them at the enemy. If you hit the enemy, it´s a win. But maybe the enemy catches them, tries to use them against you and hurts himself in the process
This comment deserves more love.
The real best way to use the nunchaku is for threshing.
@@loganroman5306 exactly. it's a farming tool.
win-win
yes
Did anyone else notice how none of the strikes he did on the bag with the nunchucks moved the bag even the slightest?
There is demonstrably 0 energy being transfered to that bag
It's not meant for torque strength. It's not meant to be a lethal weapon. It breaks bones and causes pain and disables the attacker, not kill them.
Shad! Been watching you since you were a tiny channel. You are one of my fave RUclips humans. Love your work.. and your passion. :)
'YOU HAD STICK! STICK VERY GOOD!" the Australian shouted.
Everyone clapped. Stick *was* very good.
Stick very good
Stick very good.
Amen.
You should stick with stick
bless the stick, hallelujah
STICK also float. They wood
The background is making me imagine like some villagers walking down the road and they see some guy out in the distance looking at nothing and swinging a stick around yelling "stick is good!"
Omg, lmao
Lmao
A good laugh has been received haha
Haha that's great
He himself designed that castle
I’ve never known anyone who carried nunchaku for defense or fighting. While they are fast moving, your timing of attack is limited to the time on its return forward. You can’t interrupt it’s motion to make an attack. Which gives an equally fast and adept fighter, the ability to time attacks and avoid it.
I want to give respect to both of you. For you recognizing the optics of your channel "going after" a new content creator and having the respect to reach out to him beforehand and letting him see how you would approach. Such professionalism is not common. And for him to accept and be open to being criticked by someone with the presence you have. I am a new subscriber to Shadiversity and I am happy to see I didn't make a bad choice.
Now for my thoughts, as someone who has fought with a pencil, with a stick, with a sword, and with chucks, (I am not referring to sparring)... I would rather have the chucks than the pencil, they do keep the opponent at bay due to their speed, but a quick step in and the pencil becomes more lethal very fast. Next a sword is better than the pencil and chucks, but give me a 6' staff and I will be much more confident in an altercation than with the other mentioned weapons. It just works best for me. I agree that the mystification of Asian martial arts has caused a very skewed public viewpoint of their effectiveness, but I am not disparaging as I used to train in Chi Lu Chuan Kung-Fu and see many benefits of the teachings. But they are not the magical, borderline superheros that some people seem to have a mental image of in their minds.
"What I said about the nunchucks, that they were garbage? That was wrong. They're actually far worse."
_He played us like a damn fiddle!_
actually, played us like an _erhu._ Which incidentally is also a better weapon than a nunchaku.
Shad's fans: Not gonna line, he had us going there in the first half.
I don't get why Shad loves nunchucks so much. Based on this I'm convinced the USA needs an amendment to clarify the 2nd Amendment only applies to nunchucks. Question though... are fully automatic nunchucks ok?
@@blah2blah65 - That's exactly what the NNA and Big Nunchaku would want us to think! lol
@@-ColorMehJewish- LOL! You beat my joke x100 and it only took you 13 words! Well done! NNA... took me a second to figure that out. :)
We've Been Tricked, We've Been Backstabbed and We've Been Quite Possibly, Bamboozled
Bamboozled! Once again the name lies
Some of us were clued in by "or was I?"
But not with nunchucks lol
Backstabbed with pen
RvB reference??
I subbed recently because I thought your analysis of longswords was very interesting. I really admire your ability to take apart the arguments logically and your expertise in logic. Your introduction in establishing goodwill with the audition and ensuring your words are interpreted correctly without committing an ad hominem fallacy. This is absolutely the correct way to engage in a debate and I wish there were more people like you with a similar understanding of logic.
"For a fair comparison I gotta downgrade my stick" kind of summarizes this whole argument very well.
This framework you’ve made for protecting smaller RUclipsrs is really great and can’t be understated. This needs to become a standard. I really appreciate how you handled this.
True. Fair Engagement is almost a lost art nowadays.
I agree, it's one of the things I do like about Shad.
I'm a bit depressed that it has to be made so clear and repeated so often that we shouldn't attack someone for differing opinions.
Love this channel! Love the info, love the take, love the humor. Keep up the good work. I'm new to the channel but I'll be sticking around for a while. Bless you, ya good Mormon boy.
You were so close to the right terminology talking about centripetal force, you were looking for 'angular momentum'
There are two good reasons to use nunchucks:
1st: To learn better coordination with direct backlash if you are not good enough
2nd: Train hot-headed students to make them learn how to control themselves and their temper
Yep, the nunchucks whole point is that, as a training tool, it beats the shit out of the user if they don't use it perfectly. It's a shit weapon on purpose.
That's a really good point
Or just teach them those things without wasting time in an ineffective weapon....
I personally believe they were never intended to be a weapon, I think they were always a training tool to teach coordination. Because it just doesn't make sense it's just too bad of a weapon. A technique sometimes used to teach people martial arts, is negative reinforcement if you do it wrong it hurts you, that's why they make sense as a training tool because if you swing nunchucks wrong they will hurt you.
@@BaithNa somethings cant be taught
“I said they were garbage and I realize that I was wrong..... they are far worse “
I love Shad
I just love your channel. the passion you have for everything you do here is otherworldly
as a golf player, any breaking of my arm in a back swing, means massive loss of power and distance
“StiCks are AMAZING!” “You had STICK! Stick very good!!!”
This is why we love you Shad
11:30 enjoy pals
+1 stick fighting XP
There was a guy during the first bareknuckle boxing match who, during the testing phase, he hit with about 1300 psi. He was a construction worker and set the record on that machine.
Here's my idea. What if a very long stick expert fight against a nunchaks. Now the long stick master stays at a distance but still able to hit the nunchaku guy's lower feet. And he keeps sweeping the foot of the nunchaku guy (at the calves or lower) with his very long stick. Then from time to time, hits the nunchuks guy head when distracted. What would happen? Seem to that the long stick master has the upper hand!
So this is basically Donatello whenever he's in an argument with Michealangelo
wow... i guess that's right but donnie is already very intelligent so... he might win the moment it happens. nothing for him to pick apart and donnie would just go back to his computer afterwards
Makes sense.. It takes a lot of Time for a Nunchuck to be an effective weapon.. So that's why Donatello has more time to study.. A bo is simpler, more effective and not much dangerous to learn..
While Michael Angelo is easy going and likes to show off... a Nunchuck is a flashy weapon.. actually makes sense.
I mentioned the TMNT angle on the original video, and got met with a lot of angry comments about how Mikey was their favorite turtle.
Incidentally, having a shell makes one of the major problems with nunchucks, the possibility of hitting yourself, much less of a concern.
Forget Donatello! Poor Mikey is at a disadvantage against Casey Jones!
When I was a kid in karate, I asked my teacher what he thought was the most dangerous weapon, he replied with nunchucks, I was amazed and wanted to know why, surprisingly he didn’t tell me that they are dangerous because how lethal they are, he actually said they were dangerous because how easy it is to hit yourself with them
Most dangerous? A nuke.
Most effective in close combat? Nowadays, I’d say knife.
@@lordfelidae4505 Ash summoned a Karen
it's super effective
what can beat A KAREN in close fight?
Someone willing to throw punches will probably beat most Karens quite handily.
@@GrandDukeMushroom , you can defeat a Karen in battle, but you will never beat a Karen in her own mind. She is always the winner, or the victim (which victim is the default winner).
@@EmeraldPaladin777 but most people willing to throw punches, cant do that for shit.
Nunchucks have one thing they do better than a wooden stick. If your opponent steals your nunchucks he won't be able to use em effectively against you.
Thank you.
no seriously. Your skills in correct form of complaint backed up by facts (and still some niceness) is so effective i feel i need to complain less.
Good man.
"anything is better than nothing"
**breaks arm while trying to attack**
"allow me to reconsider"
well lets see, get brutally maimed by myself due to a shit weapon choice, or use my fist and still get brutally maimed, but it isnt my fault this time.
@@steves578 well, no, this would be:
get brutally maimed by myself due to a shit weapon choice and brutally maimed by my target, or use my fist and still get brutally maimed by my target. Non-chuk, double the pain ruin the gain.
the good idea would be to throw it at your opponent. It could be tempted to use it against you!
@@steves578 grab a stone and throw it. Maximum Deadly Force
@@VABJMJ you'd be surprised how much damage a small pebble can do.
A feather duster is probably worse than a fist
Best nunchucks strat: Throw the nunchucks at your opponent, they take a hit from it, then attempt to use them, and beat themselves to death when they attempt to steal your weapon.
Great strategy. Imma use them later.
i am not sure i think throwing at em a nokia 3310 will be much more effective :P
When i was a teenager, i lived in a somewhat troublesome area. Muggins were a daily occurrence.
I had the bright idea of using a bunch of old *keys* attached to a medium length strap as a weapon for self defense and the way i used it functioned very similarly in form to how one would wield a nunchuk.
So i would walk around with this chain of keys and nobody suspected my actual intentions. The police wouldn't stop me or take it away since, it was just a bunch if keys.
The first time i needed them was when i was crossing a remote bridge, that was a common ground for muggins, because it was very easy to trap someone on the bridge cutting their escape.
I was in the middle of the bridge when i see two men entering the bridge in front of me, and i look back and see another one coming from the other end. I thought to myself "right, let's do this".
Long story short, those guys all ended up with bloody face and head. No matter how they tried they couldn't come near me without being hit by a rain of blows to the face and head. They eventually run away leaving trails of blood behind them. Their faces completely wrecked with deep slaches.
To my surprise my "weapon" was surprisingly efficient at 1 vs multiple.
After it was over, many of the keys were either broken or completely bent and twisted because of the force generated by the flailing.
What you basically had was a meteor hammer. I saw a video not long ago advocating for meteor hammers as self defense weapons and they seem like a solid option to me, especially as they can be fashioned in ways that can skirt anti-weapon laws.
Where was this that 3 people approached to mug you and none had a gun? You got very lucky it seems. Wouldn’t rely on that going forward…
@@TenMillionYearProgram42 Where i live guns aren't easily available. Gun crime is very rare.
The only reason anyone has ever heard of or seen Nun chucks is because of Bruce Lee. He made them look cool and he made them kick ass.
You can't argue with a guy who has his own castle in garden
Is the castle nunchuck proof?
@@u.v.s.5583 No doubt that nunchucks aren't castleproof
@@BluesJustice Something that can hit hard from a close range should never be underestimated!
@@u.v.s.5583 yeah right? A castle should not be underestimated as a weapon!
@@LuanMower55 If you got a trebuchet in your castle, you can also hit hard from 500 meters.
“YOU HAD STICK. STICK VERY GOOD!!”
-Shadiversity 2021
"Sticks are Amazing!" - Some t-shirt in the future
Nunchacks is a foldable stick - get over it! The keyword is "foldable" because if it's not foldable you would not have it at all in many situations. Something is better then nothing. That is the whole point about Nunchaks
@@knyazhefilms2154 when would you need to fold a stick? o.O
@@knyazhefilms2154 why do you want a disfunction shorter stick which can harm yourself.
@@knyazhefilms2154 police have collapsible sticks and they are still better than nunchacks
Best quote of the year, Shad: Stick very good, nunchaku is stick with erectile stickfunction.
Honestly mate, this is how response videos should be done. He seems like a really good dude but your arguments are very fair and accurate and you're actually trying to engage in a discussion and not just being insulting lol Respect
Aesthetically, I love nunchucks, but even BRUCE LEE the “God of Nunchucks” himself said they aren’t a smart weapon to bring in a fight, he used them on screen BECAUSE they looked cool.
When Dan Inosanto introduced nunchucks to Bruce Lee. Bruce actually thought they were a piece of junk. However Bruce Lee used them in his movies as his trademark weapon, because they are flashy.
All that flashy spinning and whacking isn't actually part of the original fighting style of nunchucks. Nor were they using short sticks with a short chain. Modern nunchucks are literally a film prop.
People forget there are two opposite yet equally valid types of fighting!
Fighting that's flashy and cool which lets you show off and get the boy or girl in the end.
Fighting that is dirty and brutal which leaves your opponent in a body bag or hospital gurney so you can return safe to your family.
Both are valid in their contexts.
@@angeleyes2c If you notice. Shad's nunchucks are far longer than most any nunchucks you'd see in a movie or buy in a store where as Malani Fitness's are very short and some of his striking positions are only possible because of their shortness. But they actually lack a lot of power.
@@PlatinumRotsu I'm pretty sure they were used to hide in a bush and bash a horse's knee as it runs by with a samurai. That way the peasants with poles can kill the samurai after they've hit the ground, hopefully with a horse on top of them.
"Nun-chucks are intimidating"... You know what else is Intimidating? A 6 foot + Tall Australian charging at you wearing full brigandine armor flailing a stick
So you carry said Australian in your backpack? If so, you are more scary than him...
Shad is 6ft? He looks way smaller😂 no offence though😂
They're intimidating if you're unarmed, but so is a knife, a stick, a baseball bat or a rock that the guy continuously gestures to chuck at you. You can wrap your jacket around your arm or throw your boot in there and have a fairly good way to disrupt the nunchuck spin after which the time needed to get the nunchuck back on track to deliver a strike would provide you with enough time to close the distance. Maybe you'll get an ouchie on your wrist/ankle but that's it. The spin doesn't have enough momentum to cause any serious, disabling damage. The guy in the motorcycle theft video pretty much proves how possible that is.
@@mrkiky If I got to choose to fight someone with nunchucks or any other weapon I can think of, even an ice pick or other non-weapons, and I'm unarmed, I'll pick the guy with nunchucks every time.
@@sochibiguite3257 never underestimate Shad. He has a big, girthy stick!
Shad being such a 12 year old for almost 90 minutes. LOVE it.
Around 35:00 "Let's be adults here", proceeds to joke about stick sizes and laughs uncontrollably. You're a funny man, Shad. Keep up the good work.
'Some guy had a stick, the stick got broke and he tried to fix it, his mates made fun of the result and he felt he had to keep using it to sooth his ego and prove he was right all along.' -Thus the nunchaku was invented.
The 36th Chamber
Enhanced ignorance, commendable
Supposedly, the num-chuks (Nunchucks) were originally rice beaters.
The Japanese would NOT allow the Okinawans to have swords, so they hid the chains and attached them when they saw an attack coming. Also, they are a lot easier to hide than a long stick.
The Sai was the top of a fishing spear. A lot of the times the wooden pole may break, but the metal spear would stay and the peasants had to learn BOTH ways of fighting with them.
The Okinawans still train with boat oars, because that is what they had.
The Kama was for cutting wheat.
And etc.
They had little to fight with, so they used those things around them to the best of their ability.
Le SIGH. NUNCHAKU itself is a Japanese name because it's a tool used by SHINOBI . A Shadow faction of Bushi . Now a shinobi or as you Whites called 'NINJA' kills enemies in Silent Takedowns from the SHADOWS. One of the most effective being CHOKES that is easily done by NUNCHAKU that can easily be FOLDED and TUCKED AWAY, A weapon that is also EASILY PRODUCED.
Have your Arrow and Gunpowder Brains start following the logic YET?!
@@minatyayah8768
I have no doubt that the Assassins used Nunchucks. In the same way they used Whip Chains, Grappling hooks, Sickle hooks, Claws, Shuriken, Spikes, Booby Traps, Bow and Arrow, Blow Darts, Gun Powder, Animal Calls, etc.
From my understanding, Many of them were former Samurai, that became Mercenaries, to survive.
They were heroes to some and criminals to others.
Either way, I do NOT believe that they invented Nunchaku/Nunchucks. Just like they didn't invent a medium straight sword or Shuriken.
I am only pointing out that, from most sources that I have read, the Nunchucks came from rice beaters, first birthed in Okinawa.
(**YET** neither one of us were there,.....so who knows for sure.)
Peace
"All weapons are basically stick, plus improvement" is the best line to describe weapons ever xD
Rock?
Mace
Rock is ball of harder stick.
@@doomer2electricboogaloo730 mace is stick with heavy thing at the end
Gun is a stick that shoots things.
If you have to spend a ton of time practicing to learn to not hurt yourself with your weapon, you know you got a great one.
I have been using chucks for over 40 years. I can do all he flashy routines, even two sets at once just like Bruce. I have two beautiful Katana sitting on my fireplace hearth. What do I keep it my vehicle to have with me at all times? A short straight Boken, or in other words a stick.
Sticks and stones may break their bones, but nunchucks only hurt me.
Your going to have a broken finger or at least a big bruise from me but I am a ninja and use steel chucks
I have yet to see a man beat the way of the AK-47.
@@Sirdudee hahhahahah lmao
@@Sirdudee The most mighty weapon called time beats everything
@@Joshua-fl3xm It doesn't beat entropy.
“You wouldn’t watch an hour and a half long video about how nunchucks are stupid!”
Me: Hold my quarterstaff
Still waiting for the King of weapons video.
wouldn't dare spend another 20 mins of first video and 39 mins of other video before that, spending equivalent to 2 and a half hours of full run time dedicated to this one argument...
oh.
@@austinmc4004 😂
We should start some wierd quarterstaff cult
@@petrgrebenicek1067 already there. Meetings are every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. BYOQ.
People who are willing to be proven wrong and open up further discussion are the absolute best. Nobody can learn anything if we all just refuse to allow people to criticize our views.
This is the only channel that I can see a guy getting mad talking about sticks. 10/10
Honestly Shad is taking way worse about a stick than necessary, sticks are probably solid B rank weapon just considering the fact that edge alignment is a non issue. Every inch of the stick is the danger zone and I feel he's being unjust saying even a bad stick is comparable to nun chucks. Edit: I have since realized the only downside is no pommel with which to end someone rightly
"The spear is the father of all weapons.
The stick is the grandfather of all weapons" -Chinese philosophy I half remembered watching this
"Rock nice." -- Gug, proffesional caveman
I'm with gug, rock was first, spear is King in offical titles. Dagger is Queen, sword is Servant, staff is shepherd.
Considering how we used our throwing power as are number one biological advantage yeah makes sense that the spear was our first weapon
@Josh M Rock is foundation, your living in a sand castle.
@@coryholt7634 I believe it's more a statement about how most ancient, and a great many modern, weapons can be seen as variations on the spear or the stick:
A sword is a long sharp spear head with a short handle.
A bullet is a tiny but incredibly fast thrusting spear.
A missile is a spear for when you dislike people who are way over there and you can't be bothered to deal with them in person.
If it takes skill to use it, it's not a good weapon. The entire POINT of a weapon, is to remove skill from the equation as much as possible
I like Shad’s point near the end, so often since something is just around for so long when people try to question it you can met with tons of backlash from people who think trying to critically analyze it is “destroying tradition” but that’s simply Dogmatic thinking, it’s illogical. You can both have respect for a group of people or culture or tradition ect and still question aspects of it, because guess what? Critically analyzing those specific thing’s ultimately can lead to the benefit of that culture
Shad: **brings up rocks and slingshots**
Me: "Why do I hear the deep baritone sounds of a large German man laughing?"
Let me show you it’s features!
*david and goliath vibes*
God Christ Jesus bless you all looool
I can hear his voice... “Welcome to the Slingshot channel” spooky.
@@joshd1071 David and Goliath, but Goliath use Slingshot instead of David...
The first 30 seconds was one of the top 10 anime betrayals
HOLY HOLY!!! I can proudly say that I have the two HOTTEST women on this planet as MY GIRLFRIENDS! I am the unprettiest RUclipsr ever, but they love me for what's inside! Thanks for listening jon
I gasped, then i squinted.
And finally...i lmao'd
@@AxxLAfriku well good for you
This argument reminds me of the channel Martial Arts Journey. He's an Aikido Sensei who tried sparring thinking his Aikido training might not be perfect, but should be somewhat useful but quickly realized that when the pressure was on he reverted to just throwing punches and haymakers. His channel is now about his study and appreciation of other arts and improving his martial effectiveness. Or how any of Xu Xiaodong's fights are, fighting with 'Masters' of esoteric arts who often drop all form once they're rocked by a simple punch to the face
Xu Xiaodong is a legend
Dude I had to come on the comments and just congratulate you on just the sheer savageness of that breakdown Stick indeed good😂
The "argument from authority"-fallacy has a snappy debunk from Steve Hofstetter: "You don't need to be a pilot to look at a helicopter in a tree and say 'dude fucked up!'"
I also dislike people blindly hiding behind experts, though the next thing you should ask the guy on the ground is exactly how either the pilot, the mechanic, or the manufacturer fucked up.
@@gravygraves5112 it was the wind
if you would stop ckc sucking blindy sdiverst for a bit, you would realize the milani guy never said anything implying anything of the sort that you can only talk about nunchucks if you re an expert.
@@jh5kl I’m sorry, did you say suckling?
@@jh5kl if you would stop mouthing off for two bloody seconds, you'd recognize that Shad said 'boardering on' not 'a durect example of' as in it isn't the direct example of, yet could be referred to as. And listening back, yeah, it's pretty darn close to it.
How to promote stick by Shad:
- Stick very good! Why would you harm stick?!
Welp, I cannot argue with that
Also I love that all these Bruce lee Stan’s all forget he also mainly practiced nunchucks for hand eye coordination and used them for ping pong and tricks more than for any kind of fighting 😂😅
I always felt that the real purpose of many Kung Fu weapons is to look cool and intimidating when used by someone with a lot of training. The most effective way to win a battle is to keep your opponent from fighting you in the first place. I think this goes for many of the styles in general, most of the techniques used would not be effective in a real fight but most people wouldn't want to test that theory out because the practitioners are intimidating. It reminds me of some deer who jump farther and longer when running away than necessary to show off how powerful they are to predators.
Chucks aren't kunfu they're karate.
11:48 "NUNCHUCKS ARE JUST STICKS SUFFERING FROM ERECTILE STICK-FUNCTION" -Shadiversity 2021
That quote should be on a T-shirt 🤣🤣🤣
@@nitev4407 I would buy that one for sure, or if you put the whole string of one-liners on a shirt would be good too
I love this channel so much!
Well it happens to 1 in 5 sticks
Another one to go on the Shad soundboard.
Someone out there trying to make a stick into a nunchuck:
Stick: "I am a stick"
But you could be fire! (Gods please be a Cosmere fan!)
I understood that reference
@@AndresStein I think most Shad fans are also Branderson fans.
I feel the nunchuck is only outmatched by a flail as being useless for the untrained, since at least with nunchucks you can hold either end of each stick and even use it to grapple and choke - you can choose not to swing it and risk hurting yourself, whereas the flail has one stick you can hold and the swingy bit you can't.
I like to think of the strikes of nunchuks as adding up to a greater, larger wound. The flurry of attacks is not unlike the cumulative effect of shot shell versus ball rounds. It may not all connect and no one bit of that is mortally harmful by itself, but 20 of them will tear someone down. And after the first connects the rest get easier to land. though that could be said of any weapon. More of a benefit when follow up strikes can be delivered quite rapidly, as is the case with nunchuks and generally not with big-sticks.
The video shad showed about the robbery gone wrong was the most evidence I needed to agree. The homeowner ran out of the house with the nunchuks to defend his bike..they were taken away from him by a dude with a screwdriver (granted there were two robbers) then when the robber had the nunchuks the homeowner was easily able to overpower the robber with nothing in his hands by moving constantly forward and keeping his arms up. Pretty straightforward.
This video /watch?v=B10oVl8fEds ? It says it was the thieves who brought the nunchucks, not the homeowner. I can't find any longer version of the video that confirms what you're saying. The only thing this video proves is the thief was an idiot who doesn't know how to fight. He'd be just as ineffective with a stick.
The only way for Milani and Shadi to settle this is for them to meet in Thunderdome. Milani with a nunchuck, Shadi with a stick. Two men enter, one man leaves!
No. Only Milani enters as cult leader is hiding trying to make new video of his great victory.
PLEASE.
19 gold Aureus and 3 silver denarii on Shad with his stick! I've heard that Shad Big-Stick is one of the emperor's favorites!
You do realize that Milani would LOOSE to Stick even without Shadi because Milani only Believes in Striking STICK and would never Grab or Grapple with STICK
@@keithcove154 That's because stick sucks at grappling. And there is no need to grapple as stick is in pieces.
If Your opponent steals your stick they hurt you.
If they steal your nunchucks, they hurt themselves
I think we can all agree that nunchucks are the best weapon to give to your opponent.
By jove, he makes a good point.
Hmmm
*start with nunchucks
*use them in a way that your opponent steals them
"You've activated my trap card."
*Take out better weapon
*Win
@@AldentheBlue take out stick
Just because he is useless with them and lacks imagination it does not mean nunchucks are bad. I used nunchucks after less than a single day of playing around with them. War Nunchakus also come with blades or spikes attached to them too, they are not just blunt weapons. Nunchakus are on the same level as a whip, a chain whip, a chain, an indian whip sword, a flail and 3 link staff. You can hit your self with all of those if you are inexperienced.
“YOU HAD STICK STICK IS GOOD DON’T HARM STICK” best sentence I’ve ever heared in my life
The nun chunks are a display peace for displays and performances same as kata
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but nunchucks will never hurt me. Unless I use them myself.
Not technically but funny
Let's just appreciate the fact that this video is long enough to be considered a feature film or a documentary.
Damn, I didn't even realize that.
I presume you haven't heard of the long men.
@@leonardliousander9742 we're probably just spoiled by maulers 10+ hrs video series
Nunchaku were farm tools that were used as a weapon for lack of anything better. They did have ONE advantage over a flail when holding one of each side in each hand the target will not know which hand the attack will come from, that being said it doesn't make up for the shear power of a flail. I have read some material that suggests the sticks were originally much longer as well like walking stick to staff length. Which if true would change the metrics significantly.
I own a copy of 'Western (Chinese) fighting stick arts' on video-cd.* Some very impressive masters demonstrate the use of traditional fighting sticks of various lengths and girth. Halfway the video a master of nunchaku is introduced. He's the last of his line and he's ancient, and the sticks he uses are huge in comparison. Each stick is as long as his lower leg. When he goes to that stance where the practitioner holds the weapon with one hand over the shoulder and the other under the armpit, the defensive capabilities suddenly become apparent: his whole upper body and his head are protected from blows. And he can reverse sides in a split second.
I my country nunchaku are known as strangulation sticks and they are outlawed as a lethal weapon. With old style nunchaku you could trap a man's arm and break it.
So yes, excellent improvised defense weapon, and if you were a farmer in those days, it would probably make sense to become proficient on them, though I suspect they would be rather reactionary. Oppertunities for initiative are what make a real weapon.
Yeah they were longer and it was a Calvary weapon The first written record of nunchaku-like weapon was the Chinese military compendium of 武經總要; Wujing Zongyao compiled during the Northern Song dynasty:
"鐵鏈夾棒，本出西戎，馬上用之，以敵漢之步兵。其狀如農家打麥之枷，以鐵飾之，利於自上擊下，故漢兵善用者巧於戎人。"[9]
English Translation:
"Two sticks connected by metal chain, originated from Xirong, used on horses in combat against Han infantry, shaped similarly to flails used by farmers to sow wheats, iron-decorated, easy to strike below from above, Han soldiers who were able to master could exercise with excellence against the Xirongs."
The farm thing is fr over-exaggerated. Nunchucks were weapons developed in China. Weren’t farm tools. Sai were weapons from China meant to disarm swords, not a fishing tool. The only weapons that were farm implements were probably tonfa or kama, which were clearly a handle and a sickle. The other “traditional” Japanese weapons? Nope. Weapons, mostly from China.
Farmers modding farm tools to disguise just sounds so much more romantic, which is why Funakoshi made up the whole “farm tools” thing when he made Okinawan arts seem cooler for Japanese mainlanders to adopt as sport.
Nunchaku are basically just like flails, not effective weapons, and lack of control of your weapon leaves you vulnerable, it's not a simple thing to use, and you're always at risk of hurting yourself.
Not only is Malani to be given mad respect but Shad as well. I don't think any of us expected Shad to not go above and beyond to make certain he was fair to another (smaller) channel and youtuber - but even if his attitude and kindness was expected, it still deserves praise.
Thank you so much, I try my best.
There's no reason to respect people that are intentionally trying to cause harm. Being a good presenter doesn't make you a good person. Here in America we're still literally gasping for air because we had a dipshit performer influence people
I'm sorry but regardless of how amicable he is, i genuinely don't like the guy. He's giving information out to gullible people that inevitably is going to get their asses kicked. I grew up with very dangerous people and they didn't need weapons to be lethal. For instance i come from three generations of extremely tough boxers and I've seen them beat the living daylights out of people with their own weapons and put them in hospital. If you take nunchucks into a fight with anyone that has a killer instinct, you're going to get yourself extremely hurt. I don't have that killer instinct myself but my immediate family, if you brought nunchucks into a fight with any of them, i guarantee once they step in close you're going to seriously regret it. Nunchucks are garbage, especially against anyone bigger than you with any practical training in boxing or grappling of any kind.
@@topogigio7031, "performer" is a description that fits at least half of the politician population. Personally, I liked the "performer" and felt he did a great job, as did over 70 million people. The fact that the new "performer" got more votes than every other "performer" in the history of the role is an odd thing, considering how awful he is in the role. You could almost conclude that it's sketchy.
@@ironfistovwudang3485 Read some of his comments to people actually debating his points. He is hostile, disrespectful, cruel, and dismissive. The only reason he's being respectful to Shad is because that is in more of a public eye. He couldn't give a crap about actual debate, if you read Milani's responses to other people.