WARNING!! Your Expensive Golf Ball Might Be Costing You Strokes!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024
  • Testing golf ball balance with the salt water method. I'll walk you thru how to check your golf balls balance at home and we sampled a random box of Titleist ProV1, Wilson Ultra 500 and Callaway Chromesoft X. The results were shocking to say the least!
    It's easy to perform this golf ball experiment at home, here's what you'll need:
    • Pool Salt: geni.us/GksRQL
    • Sharpie: geni.us/2Uvji
    • Cup
    • Towel
    Thanks to our channel member, Steven, who suggested this video topic!
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Комментарии • 431

  • @LetsPlayThru
    @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

    Check out part 2 where I test unbalanced balls on course and cut them open: ruclips.net/video/YsYYnMqZrFs/видео.html

    • @RJ-rp5ot
      @RJ-rp5ot 2 года назад

      In the next video, I’d like to see you test golf bags to see if they are perfectly balanced....

    • @modestosrc4898
      @modestosrc4898 2 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @bsmith4u2
      @bsmith4u2 Год назад

      Just ran 2 boxes of Pro V1X's through this test that I just picked up at the store and 1 full box was perfect and the 2nd box was out of balance. 12 out of 24. Pretty poor.

    • @mark60118
      @mark60118 4 месяца назад

      I know how balance affects pots but curious to know how balance affects ball flight with robot testing

  • @coystephens9911
    @coystephens9911 2 года назад +166

    I knew it . It was the golf ball’s fault. Thanks for confirming this.

    • @christophersherman2437
      @christophersherman2437 2 года назад +3

      Ha ha ha, love it

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +2

      100%

    • @MidwestMotor
      @MidwestMotor 2 года назад +2

      LOL! "Why didn't you just go home, that's your home, are you too good for your home..."

    • @gregs.8895
      @gregs.8895 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely!!

    • @dukeblair7792
      @dukeblair7792 2 года назад

      It's a combination with your stroke being the biggest culprit.

  • @davidbramuchi3549
    @davidbramuchi3549 2 года назад +6

    Nearly two decades ago I purchased on a whim a device called "Check - Go" by Techasonic (yes, I still have the box). It is cylindrical in shape and the top part of the device lifts off. A ball is placed on the "cup", the top part is put back on the button of the back is pushed and the ball spins. There is no indication of how fast it spins but, it is very fast. You can hear the sound of the ball spin and then if you watch the rapidly rotating dimples (you can hardly see them) you will be able to see it stabilize. With a sharpie I place a dot on the top of the ball and them I touch the sharpie on the equator of the ball and a line is drawn around the ball. This line them becomes the "high & low" circumference of the ball. It will rotate over that line when the ball is squarely struck and you can see if the ball was squarely struck by the perfect line on the ball as it rolls toward the spot at which you were aiming.
    Like automobile tires, they are not perfectly round nor are the in perfect balance. Some brands are better than others but NONE are perfect. You have the tires on your vehicles balanced to make a smoother ride and help eliminate vibration. This vibration you feel when you drive faster is the same wobble the golf ball has when it is spinning after being struck by any of the golf clubs. The more spin a club imparts on the ball the more it will vibrate off line.
    This test done in this video was very well done to show the lightest spot on the golf ball. Having to buy a bag of salt and take this much time is a waste. The Check - Go is very reliable and quick. I spin every ball I play with. There are NO PERFECT BRANDS OUT THERE. I have spun every brand of ball that I have found and sometime you can't even get the ball to stay on the cup as it spins. It literally vibrates off. The top that goes on before it is spun keeps it from flying off. I've been using the Check - Go device for over twenty (20) years and I swear by it. It does make a difference and the line that is drawn on it as it is spun it the perfect alignment line. The ones placed on balls by the manufacture has NEVER been on the line drawn as the ball is spinning. FACT!
    I can't remember the price exactly but, I believe it was in the $20 - $30 range. Well worth it, as it is still working and, I can spin and mark a dozen balls in about 15 minutes.

    • @az8theist977
      @az8theist977 2 года назад

      I use the Check-Go-Pro as well. It finds the balance point of the ball. A good check to see if it works is to place the ball BACK into the rotator after marking the dot and you'll see the dot comes up on top again or 180 out on the bottom. It's NOT a "bad ball", just one that has a specific balance point. They instruct you to place the dot facing you and the line pointed at your target, whether teeing off or putting. I've found this works extremely well when putting. If the line doesn't wobble on the putt, you've struck it correctly and the balls natural balance point rolls true.

  • @nathanreeves6256
    @nathanreeves6256 2 года назад +9

    I would love to see a follow up with the difference between balanced and unbalanced balls on the green to see how this would directly affect my game. Great video! Thank you!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      absolutely will be doing that 😀

  • @earnestfarley
    @earnestfarley 2 года назад +17

    Hello. The ‘Bad’ balls are still very much usable. Now that you know the heavy side, you can use it to shape shots off the tee. Also, when putting, put the heavy side on top and you will hit your start line more effectively.

    • @michaelg7904
      @michaelg7904 2 года назад

      Imagine taking the time and effort in doing this to each and every ball you buy. No, thanks.

    • @earnestfarley
      @earnestfarley 2 года назад +3

      @@michaelg7904 It does not take as much time as you think. I use a alignment ball marker, so I need to take them out and mark them anyway. I reuse the salt water. Just put it in a Tupperware container and I like to microwave it for a little so the water is warm. It can pay to know where the heavy side of the ball is.

  • @allahalibaba9063
    @allahalibaba9063 2 года назад +1

    Gabe: Great review of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. The Titelist also surprised me, with all that talk about the # 1 ball etc...This test is something I bet not to many golfer would have thought of...Thanks....

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      Thanks so much. I can’t take the credit, this was a suggestion from one of our LPT community members.

  • @FinanceMan
    @FinanceMan 2 года назад

    That makes so much sense I knew when I placed it in the box and hit a slice into the lake, It must have been off balance on the right side. Make sure to tell me coach that next time he is adjusting my grip or swing.

  • @scotto6120
    @scotto6120 2 года назад +16

    Great test! How about cutting the bad ones in half and see if you can see a difference in thickness etc.?

    • @seanhaynes5654
      @seanhaynes5654 2 года назад

      Love this Scott 👍

    • @arus3765
      @arus3765 2 года назад

      Really surprising!! How come ProV have that many issues where average 73% pros are plsying with it. Would you mind cutting the bad balls open?

  • @gripitripitchipit
    @gripitripitchipit 2 года назад +19

    Gabe, this was a very interesting video and test. I remember like others have mentioned a couple years back when it was pointed out that Callaway had an issue with their balls, so they re-worked the manufacturing process to correct it. They must be doing well because the chrome soft X is a four-piece ball, and they were still well balanced with the multiple layers, which I'm sure is not easy. I normally play a Srixon ball, but I think after this test I might start using the Titleist Pro V1. I need all the excuses I can get.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      haha, love that Mick

    • @normandpaul6272
      @normandpaul6272 2 года назад

      Would it work with normal cooking sea salt?

    • @amarug
      @amarug 2 года назад +1

      @@normandpaul6272 yes its the same

    • @michaelg7904
      @michaelg7904 2 года назад

      I play the Srixon Q and Z tour balls and really like them for my game.

  • @alanmartin4008
    @alanmartin4008 2 года назад +8

    This is a simple static balance test. I was given a device as a "silly" gift called a Golf Ball Sweet Spot finder, which looks a little like R2D2, which spins the ball up to a few thousand rpm (don't know the exact number) and you can then use a sharpie through a couple of apertures to mark the dynamic equator or the axis of rotation. The vast majority always return to the same axis of rotation, which is one of the principal moments of inertia of the ball. I'm guessing the few which don't return to the same place are "perfectly balanced". But, as long as you align to the dynamic equator, the ball will still fly and roll straight - can't eliminate a bad hit unfortunately.

    • @YoungMoneyInvestments
      @YoungMoneyInvestments 2 года назад +3

      Problem with this is that you can’t touch your ball and align it after every swing. Approach shots into the green are especially when you want the proper axis of rotation and if your ball isn’t balanced, you won’t get that.

    • @r.s.5431
      @r.s.5431 2 года назад

      @@YoungMoneyInvestments Well, if you are Patrick Reed, you can always claim the ball is embedded and take complete relief of the lie.

    • @jasonsapp5955
      @jasonsapp5955 2 года назад +2

      I didn't understand a word you just said.

  • @liquidburn9
    @liquidburn9 2 года назад +3

    Very cool and simple experiment to determine if the balls core is centered in it's shell

  • @Nogame7_Cards
    @Nogame7_Cards 2 года назад

    Dave Pelz has an old book that detailed this process. Best putting instruction I have ever read!

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac Год назад

    Great stuff and good to know there are other engineering geeks out there checking their balls. Been doing it for years with both salt and high speed spinning (DIY Dremel spinner and then the Check-Go.) I mark a line using the a primary rotational axis for refence (90 degrees off the center mark). My DIY conclusion: centered balls hit the mark 22% more AND out of balance balls driven along the marked rotational lines hit pay grass 38% more often. I'm not a statistician, but in practical terms it seems like that means anywhere from 2 to 4 of 10 shots that would have been offline are online. I'm an honest 21 hcp so for me, that seems a worthwhile figure.

  • @marktanner979
    @marktanner979 2 года назад +3

    WOW had to try this for myself. I tested Titleist high number proV1 straight from the Titleist website. All 12 tested good. I happen to have one sleeve of TP5s and two out of them where bad. Also had a sleeve of Callaway triple track chrome soft 2 of those where bad. I love the TP5s but now I don’t know. I don’t know who to trust. Guess I test all of them before I game them. Thanks Gabe.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing the results Mark!

    • @fuzzybanana3870
      @fuzzybanana3870 2 года назад +2

      Trust them all. These tiny variances have been in balls since the wooden ball and has never affected you game yet. It would take a brutally out of balance ball to alter anything.

  • @pdmv8471
    @pdmv8471 2 года назад +1

    Old people like me have been doing this since the days of balata/wound balls. Use a bowl with epsom salts in it. It helps not only with putting but also ball flight off a tee.

  • @georgiamay4045
    @georgiamay4045 2 года назад +1

    super grateful for this video .. gives me something to test for ... and to blame for bad rounds ... thanks!!!

  • @markjpcs
    @markjpcs 2 года назад

    Bought a sleeve of Callaway Supersoft today for $7 at the local course. I had no 3 putt greens and used the same ball the entire round. I saw this video in my feed after my round today and tested every ball in my bag. Most of them being used or found. The 3 Callaway Supersoft, including the one that just went 18 holes, all tested perfect. I found one VX1 and one Vice in my bag that were perfect.

  • @76MUTiger
    @76MUTiger 2 года назад +1

    I have been using a Check-Go ball spinner for years, playing Titleist ProV1s always. Years ago 90% showed balance issues. Today less than 10% do. Fortunately, with the spinner you can draw a line around the ball that catches the heavy/light axis. But orienting that line vertically, and along the axis of the strike or putt, it negates the effect of a heavy spot. They stay on line. My experience is Titleist balls are exceptionally well balanced these days.

  • @rorymccreadie6442
    @rorymccreadie6442 2 года назад +1

    Wow such a cool video! Definitely going to do this testing on the balls I will use when playing.

  • @skithewhitestuff
    @skithewhitestuff 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for doing this text. Very interesting results. I think that we were all surprised at the Titleist ball, as they are viewed as the market leader for the golf ball. The cheaper ball, you could understand it if they were all bad but that wasn’t the case. Only a couple of years ago Callaway were taken to task by My Golf Spy, looks like they have turned it around. I heard that Bryson Dechambeau does this to his own balls before gaming them.

  • @frankwaldemar6334
    @frankwaldemar6334 Год назад

    I've found that 2/3 of the off the shelf pro v1, pro vx and Tour Speed balls run out of balance. Even the test balls Titleist sent me . I found the new laser Chrome Soft balls were in balance, as you found. I tested other balls and found Kirkland, Bridgestone TOUR BRX and TOUR BXS ran between 75% and 83% balanced. I also checked out Dicks Maxfli TOUR X came in at 70%. I think the two piece balls, like the Ultra stand a better chance to be balanced. Balance really comes into play when putting. Your test is simple. You still have to find the ball that fits your game and has the fewest flaws built into it.

  • @richdouglas2311
    @richdouglas2311 2 года назад +6

    Not mentioned in the video is that Callaway (a) makes their own balls (instead of having them made in a factory in Asia) and (b) they had SERIOUS issues along these lines with the 2020 version of the ChromeSoft and ChromeSoft X. Cutting them open, you could actually see how out-of-round they were inside. So they re-tooled their manufacturing and quality control processes in order to eliminate the problem. This video is the first I've seen that looked at this issue specifically with the ChromeSoft. It looks like Callaway was successful.
    This was a much bigger problem back when tour balls were built around a liquid center, with windings inside and a balata cover. Not only did they come from the factory in all kinds of shapes, they tended to go out-of-round due to routine play. Professionals would test each ball before putting it in the bag, and they'd switch balls after 3 or 4 holes as a matter of practice. They were also easy to scuff and cut. But now, with solid, multi-layer balls with urethane covers, you can play the ball until you lose it.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      Great background info, thanks Rich. Yes, the Callaway box says Made in USA on the front.

    • @jimmydelrio8662
      @jimmydelrio8662 2 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing. I'm glad they addressed the issue and thanks for doing the simple but eye opening test.

    • @semajniffirg230
      @semajniffirg230 2 года назад

      @@LetsPlayThru Callaway is right up the road from me in Chicopee, MA

  • @mixter7x7
    @mixter7x7 2 года назад

    Part of my job is vibration analysis.
    I can assure you there is a very big difference between static balance and dynamic balance.
    A golf ball will spin at thousands of rpm’s when struck with a club. Until you watch the ball spin at thousands of rpm’s you cannot tell if it’s dynamically balanced.
    Putting is another topic. At low rpm the visible static imbalance will have more obvious effect.

  • @swm7860
    @swm7860 2 года назад +2

    I am glad to see the confirmation of the idea completed in a different manner Gabe. I originally started to think of this idea when I read an article of golf balls made in the distant past that were perfectly round on the outside, but had a randomly shaped core. To me, things like this make the game more interesting. I hope this does not lead to a salt shortage… Ha ha ha! In closing, this confirms what Dr. Hanford told me years ago, the only stupid question is the question you do not ask. So keep asking Gabe questions!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +2

      I’m so glad you brought this question up. It’s been eye opening. Now the next test is to take our unbalanced balls and test the effect they have in the air and on greens. I’m a little scared Tbh !!

  • @rikkousa
    @rikkousa 2 года назад

    I have a little device that spins the ball until it finds its center/balance. It allows you to put a sharpie in the machine that puts your alignment line on the balls center.. Rarely is the line on the same line as the balls alignment line. Very cool.

  • @kevan4852
    @kevan4852 2 года назад +1

    Tested some older bridgestones this morning, as well as Callaway Chrome Soft, and Titleist Pro v1 and v1X. Older bridgestones were somewhat unbalanced. Prov1 was decent if not questionable at times. Chrome Soft were as perfectly balanced as can be and v1X were nearly perfect as well.
    Oh, and don't forget to rinse the balls with tap water to get the salt off!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing the results, Kevan

  • @douglaslivingston507
    @douglaslivingston507 2 года назад +1

    Did you add detergent to break the surface tension of the water? When I did this, I could not find a perfect ball

  • @markmaioli4
    @markmaioli4 2 года назад +1

    Epsom salts work as well. Can usually fund in any grocery store or pharmacy & is in smaller bags

  • @ChiliDippaGolf
    @ChiliDippaGolf 2 года назад

    Look at you chillin by the pool! Never really thought about the balance of a golf ball. This test is pretty cool. I wasn't surprised on the pro v1s but seeing every Callaway ball past the test was shocking.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      Yeah it was fascinating to learn, I had no idea

  • @Scubagolf69
    @Scubagolf69 2 года назад

    I seen this on another channel. Cut the golf balls open and see if the core is perfectly centered. Some golf balls i seen cut open the core is was moved as much as a 1/4 of an inch to the left or right.

  • @paulspeelman5619
    @paulspeelman5619 2 года назад

    Back in the day of liquid center wound balata balls we always did the balance test. Also carried a sizing and roundness ring gage.

  • @chrisstevens9523
    @chrisstevens9523 2 года назад +2

    Gotta love you Gabe
    ' go down to your local pool store'
    I live in Scotland, if we had pools outside we would die of hypothermia 😂

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      🤣🤣 def more plentiful here in Florida

  • @michaelg7904
    @michaelg7904 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for doing this! I've played many Titleist ProV1s and now this has definitely changed my opinion! It still makes me wonder why so many pros use them...

  • @daleholtz7905
    @daleholtz7905 2 года назад +1

    Love the video never would have thought of doing this. Thanks!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      that was a very interesting exercise for me.

  • @danferkovich270
    @danferkovich270 2 года назад

    Fantastic video and I will be doing this with my golf balls! Thank you for showing us this test

  • @dudosmokokos
    @dudosmokokos 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting. I think you need to add the Taylormade and Bridgestone golf balls to the experiment.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      There’s been some interesting tests by people here in the comments. Surprising, all of the results for sure!

  • @johnforsyth8414
    @johnforsyth8414 Год назад

    Thanks so much for the video! So basically, those Callaway balls performed flawlessly. They make the same model ball in a “triple track” version with lines. Those are apparently there to help lining up the “aim path” on the green.

  • @gavinporter8035
    @gavinporter8035 2 года назад +2

    Excellent simple test! Somewhat disappointed in Titleist. You'd have thought a world leading #1 ball producing company would 'be on the ball'😂, when it comes to ball balance! Actually I'm not disappointed, I'm disgusted that they have the nerve to sell these at a premium price and can't be bothered to check balance!😡 Kudos to Callaway for there more stringent testing methods.👍

    • @bsmith4u2
      @bsmith4u2 Год назад

      Just tested two new boxes of Pro V1X and one box was perfect and one full box was definitely off balance.

  • @barrelman35
    @barrelman35 2 года назад +8

    I wanna see that done on a kirkland ball. Might be staying away from the pro v1 now lol

    • @M1967able
      @M1967able 2 года назад

      I've been playing Kirkland's for a bit and it was 50/50 on the balance in the saltwater. Granted they are mint recycled balls so they had been hit already.

    • @michaelg7904
      @michaelg7904 2 года назад

      I've cut open a lot of balls and the Kirkland sure seems like a rebranded (and prior version) Titleist Pro V1 with different core colors.

  • @nobelsteed6440
    @nobelsteed6440 2 года назад +4

    I think it very difficult to produce a balanced ball which has several layers. Cheaper balls generally have just one maybe 2 different composites inside, while pro v1 has 3. Surprised Callaway seems to have figured it out. I use refurbished most of the time...and play poorly.

  • @wccl
    @wccl 2 года назад

    Interesting for sure. Hopefully you can do more premium balls in the future. A certain website claim the titilest is superior to others but the difference is really mute when looking at their ranking chart.

  • @rogerredford6242
    @rogerredford6242 2 года назад

    Good video. How many golfers even consider the balance? Very few. Love your backyard. We are moving to the Delray are. See you on the golfcourse.

  • @neilcaulfield7840
    @neilcaulfield7840 2 года назад +1

    Great video, Gabe. As a Pro V1 man I'm a bit worried about this. Given what we pay l expect better from Titleist.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      I’m hoping not every case is as bad as this one was

  • @kokomon5
    @kokomon5 2 года назад

    I've used the check n go ball spinner for years, I believe in it, very good for t shots, and putting, but as previously said, doesn't help on approach shots when u can't LINE it up

  • @billygraham5589
    @billygraham5589 2 года назад

    2 piece balls are easier to get consistent in density it would seem. But I heard that if you have a balance point determined you put that on the line you draw on the ball to align putts and the ball will roll straight.

  • @mijnesretep
    @mijnesretep 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks, very interesting. I wonder if the test would be more accurate if you
    1, made 4 marks, one after each spin, then examined the proximity of the four marks. (all 4 marks in one hemisphere or less could indicate balance issues)
    2, used a larger diameter container so that the side of the container would not interfere with the final spin to the surface.

  • @alandenson6649
    @alandenson6649 2 года назад +2

    How do we know that he doesn't work for Callaway?

  • @donkelley2659
    @donkelley2659 2 года назад

    I learned a lesson about this a long time ago. I bought a recycled dozen PROV-1s and most of those were out of balance. I thought it was me until I looked at them closer and rolled them across the table and noticed they didn't roll straight. Now granted these were used but my thinking is how many times can you hit these before they go out of round.

  • @rickcudmore8156
    @rickcudmore8156 2 года назад

    I use a spinner and mark a line with a Sharpie around the equator of the ball. From what I have experienced, the ball rolls very straight.

  • @jakesells2379
    @jakesells2379 2 года назад +35

    I'd like to see if balls that failed the balance test actually roll differently on the greens vs balanced balls.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +18

      Me too. I’m going to take them and do that next.

    • @gogg111
      @gogg111 2 года назад

      probably does effect role... there are several pga pros that I know of that do this very test with every ball they are sent, good ones go in the play pile and bad ones go in the junk ball pile

    • @tcofield1967
      @tcofield1967 2 года назад +2

      Probably very hard to tell to be honest. The strike on the ball will be slightly different each time (we are human) so actually showing that there is a statistical difference would be very difficult to do.

    • @lloydwilliams4368
      @lloydwilliams4368 2 года назад +3

      @@tcofield1967 I'm sure there is some kind of pendulum type tester that gives the same hit every time similar to 'Iron Byron' club testers.

    • @bigdogkmc
      @bigdogkmc 2 года назад +5

      The only true way to test this is to use a stimp meter to roll the ball on a perfectly flat surface and also change the orientation and roll again marking the place where the ball finishes.

  • @IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13
    @IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 2 года назад

    Good to see callaway take home the gold. I play callaway balls. Not chromesoft but supersoft And diablos. Occasionally I play title it’s velocity balls but they seem to be tough to find in my area. Usually sold out if that says anything.

  • @barrykusumo
    @barrykusumo 2 года назад +1

    This only tests the fact that there could be trapped air bubbles in the core polymer manufacturing process which affects the buoyancy point of the ball. The fact that you had to add all that salt to the water to increase the buoyancy of the water, indicates that there are imperfections of trapped air inside. The way the ball flows through the air or roll on the green should be little affected given gravity and the density of the ball. Use the stint ramp and roll the ball with the “balance” point end over end vs left/right on a level surface to see if it rolls one way or another.

  • @craveheartministries
    @craveheartministries 2 года назад +1

    What a great test. Thank you so much

  • @James_Vaughn
    @James_Vaughn 2 года назад

    My dad used to do this back in the balata days. He just made sure to line up the cog mark on top while putting.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      Nice! I remember my dad always lining up the seams too.

  • @bathman6366
    @bathman6366 2 года назад

    Awesome video! Well that certainly makes me feel better for playing the £1 Kirkland ball this season! There are so many "premium" products that don't live up to the hype when put under the microscope...

  • @kenyonnassar2134
    @kenyonnassar2134 2 года назад +1

    Like you. I was shocked at these results of the pro V. Two weeks ago I took the manufacturing factory tour here in New Bedford MA. It is available to anyone by appointment. Seeing the process up close I am not going to rely on the salt test for anything more than to test the freshness of an egg. Although the test may be accurate. Sorry Steve, I need a Newton type test to convince me. The whole marketing claim of Titlelist derives from an inaccurate ball roll in 1935 or 1933 if you consider the three years in development. The Logo is from the secretary’s penmanship. 🤷🏻

    • @mattcooper1626
      @mattcooper1626 2 года назад

      This is the most all over the place comment I have ever seen....If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a donkey, it must be a toaster....... uhh what?!

  • @uga83joe
    @uga83joe Год назад +1

    Well blow me down...all these years I have been paying a premium to play the ProV1's. I have found other premium golf balls and they do play just as good. I will not purchase Titleist again. Thanks for the video it opened my eyes. Can not believe that Titleist's quality control were a bunch of hacks. I am actually pissed....

  • @richardjacobs7632
    @richardjacobs7632 2 года назад

    Thanks for this! The most consistent ball is Titleist! I use a Check Go Pro!

    • @Giovanni-zc1lv
      @Giovanni-zc1lv 2 года назад

      I thought I left a comment about the Check Go Pro on this or another video. With a link to buy. Anyway best tool to bang out a dozen in 30 minutes or less. If you find the equator put a line on it....done.

  • @Sluggo717
    @Sluggo717 Год назад

    Question. Does the salt level change as you test the balls?

  • @stevenhope3697
    @stevenhope3697 2 года назад

    you need to add some jetdry to take the surface tension off the water. You'll find that just about any ball has a slight imbalance. I've been doing this for years and actually balance the balls before I play. I use epsom salts to condition the water.

    • @paliprincess7864
      @paliprincess7864 Год назад

      @stevenhope3697 You are exactly correct! Jetdry or WD40 as David Lake the founder of Gravity Golf showed in his youtube video. I'm sorry but this test does NOT work unless you use Jetdry. I have been doing that for about 8 years and I have never found a perfectly balanced ball like this guy is finding due to the lack of Jetdry added to break the water tension.

  • @huikh2r
    @huikh2r 2 года назад

    saw comments below about putting test on bad balls. I am a lot more worried about ball flight. Does bad ball spin to the right of left for tee shots? you have to try multiple times on each bad ball because you may put a bad ball on the tee balanced

  • @StevenLee2
    @StevenLee2 2 года назад

    I appreciate the time and effort you out into this! Could you do this with more? I would be curious to see Srixon, TaylorMade ect…

  • @sevesellors2831
    @sevesellors2831 2 года назад +1

    Great video scary results. I believe Tiger and Bryson tested every brand and Bridgestone were the best.Could you test Bridgestone and Taylormade balls? Greetings from 🇬🇧

  • @mrbigsky7330
    @mrbigsky7330 8 месяцев назад

    This is not necessarily determining if a ball is bad or not. Youre simply finding the heavy side of the ball. Next step would be small 50mg of lead tape on the dot and then see if the ball flips over. If so then the balls center is close enough. If the tape stays on top then you would know the center is too far off to be used. Also larger tape could be used depending on your preference of tolerance.

  • @saxmanryan1187
    @saxmanryan1187 2 года назад +1

    Wow Gabe, great video! And awesome idea from Steven. I feel a little better about the Wilson Zip balls I’m currently using ($25 for 2 dozen)! QUESTION!! If I do this test at home and find balls out of balance, should I not use them?

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      Well the next video I do will explore this, but the consensus is it could def affect putts from rolling straight.

  • @petegalindez9961
    @petegalindez9961 2 года назад +1

    Since it’s been raining for two days here in Virginia Beach, and will be raining for the next few, guess I know what I’m doing!!! Would be interesting next test to take those balls, and without knowing which were the unbalanced, and which were balanced, and do some putting with them to see if there is any correlation…I guess same with wedge shots, irons, and driver too!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      Yes! Good call Pete!

    • @petegalindez9961
      @petegalindez9961 2 года назад

      @@LetsPlayThru To be honest, I thought you were going to dump that bag of salt into your pool and throw all the golf balls in it! LOL. Thanks for taking the time. Labor intensive no doubt…

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      @@petegalindez9961 that would’ve been something!!

  • @Robster6480
    @Robster6480 2 года назад +3

    I would love to see a test before and after hitting for the first time. I would guess that not many balls survive perfectly once struck but I’d like to know.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      I’m definitely going to get on the putting green with them and see what happens

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro 2 года назад

      @@LetsPlayThru I'd love it if you'd repeatedly roll an unbalanced ball down a stimpmeter (I'd do it on a hardwood floor), holding it in different orientations. Then repeat with a balanced ball. The unbalanced ball should roll straighter if you put the heaviest spot forward while rolling it down the ramp, and it should be worse when rolled with any other orientation. You're making me want to buy a stimpmeter now ... great video!

  • @bsmith4u2
    @bsmith4u2 4 месяца назад

    The speed at which it returns to the spot also determines how out of balance the ball is. If it returns very slowly, you're actually pretty good. If it returns quickly then you have an out of balance ball.

  • @stefanomaniscalchi4983
    @stefanomaniscalchi4983 2 года назад

    Great video ! Shocking results !

  • @SteveSmith-zz4ih
    @SteveSmith-zz4ih 2 года назад

    Great test, i think Bryson does something similiar before he plays, what are the manufacturers tolerances on "out of balance" gonads. ie specs within 2% etc etc

  • @markzinda8863
    @markzinda8863 2 года назад

    One of your “best ever” videos! I’d call into question the source of your ball. Perhaps Edwin Watts is purchasing regents from Titleist to retail at a greater profit margin,

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      Thanks Mark, hey you never know!

    • @markzinda8863
      @markzinda8863 2 года назад

      @@LetsPlayThru If the results from your homemade science experiment were true, Taylor Made, Callaway, Scriixon etc would blast the results in their advertising and Titleist would no longer be the #1 ball in golf.

  • @craigmaccoll7850
    @craigmaccoll7850 2 года назад

    Great video, absolutely shocked at how bad the Proves were. Will be sharing this !!!!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      Right there with you. I was stunned

  • @ericriddle3158
    @ericriddle3158 2 года назад

    Thanks, Gabe, nice vid ! Played Ultra's 25 years ago , Fred Flintstone ball, i.e. a rock lol

  • @Rickyfyied
    @Rickyfyied 2 года назад

    This is awesome! Never would have thought of balls being out of balance

    • @bytor99999
      @bytor99999 2 года назад

      This Ball. You think it is the prophecy. You think it will bring balance to the force?

  • @AsadKhan-lm6yr
    @AsadKhan-lm6yr Месяц назад

    Titleist morning meeting is going to be something else!!!

  • @nickpritchard7130
    @nickpritchard7130 2 года назад

    That explains why i get sea sick. There is too much salt in the ocean, and i feel like an Unbalanced Titleist Golf Ball. Lol !..Great vid thanks !

  • @Guythatsometimescomments
    @Guythatsometimescomments 2 года назад +1

    Wow, very cool test. Gonna go test my Tour B X's tonight to see how they do.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      Let us know what you find pls

    • @kevan4852
      @kevan4852 2 года назад +1

      Echoing LPT, YES! Let us know what you find! I've been considering trying the Tour B XS's.

    • @Guythatsometimescomments
      @Guythatsometimescomments 2 года назад +1

      @@LetsPlayThru So unfortunately I didn't have the most optimum test, because I'm a cheapo and I bulk purchase the AAAAA used golf balls. So that may play a factor in my results. I did have a sleeve of new 2020 Chromesoft x ls, as well as a sleeve of new Vice Pro Plus.
      Results:
      Bridgestone Tour B X - 6/15 passed (9 being bad)
      Vice Pro Plus - 3/3 passed. Impressive.
      2020 Chromesoft x ls - 1/3 passed (2 bad)
      I'm unsure if the Callaways I used are when they started using the laser to fix their QA issues -- it doesn't say it on the box so my assumption is no.
      So, bad results for Bridgestone but again these were the used 5A golf balls so that may be the issue. I think a cool follow-up to your video would be to play a few holes with one of the good balls you tested, and see if anything changes. Would be great to know how long you can play a golf ball before it becomes a "bad" ball.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      @@Guythatsometimescomments Thanks for the update. Very interesting results

  • @mikevreeland8889
    @mikevreeland8889 2 года назад

    Nice video. I wish you'd tried the new Wilson Triad. Their claim is all of the materials (the different layers) have the same density, thus every ball is perfectly balanced.

    • @ianm408
      @ianm408 2 года назад

      I I'm started using this ball a few weeks ago instead of prov1.
      I really like it. It definitely goes further, probably 10/15 yards further with each club. Also spins nicely around the green.
      What are your thoughts?

  • @Catman39
    @Catman39 2 года назад

    Great idea for a review! I'm happy because I use the Chrome Soft X haha

  • @jonathanlauritzen6817
    @jonathanlauritzen6817 2 года назад

    Can you try Bridgestone tour b xs please? Fantastic video btw!🌟

  • @subpargolfer6654
    @subpargolfer6654 2 года назад +7

    This is great! Please, please, please do more balls. Especially the mid-grade and DTC stuff. Maxfli Tour, Vice, Snell, and yes even multiple OnCores even if it isn’t your branded ball, etc… unfortunately since there there was only one OnCore shown I’m wondering if there weren’t some bad ones there as well. Love your videos but you may have cost yourself some work with this one 😂

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +3

      Yes seems like I may not rest on this, haha. 🤣

    • @barry4159
      @barry4159 2 года назад

      He showed ya how to test. We can now test our own...

    • @normandpaul6272
      @normandpaul6272 2 года назад

      Now that you know the test you could performed it yourself.
      Ben Hogan used to scrutinize ever single ball he'd play in a tournament...he would have loved that test.

  • @christophersherman2437
    @christophersherman2437 2 года назад

    I never woulda thought of this being the issue, very cool.

  • @pinkfreak31
    @pinkfreak31 2 года назад

    So helpful. Thank you

  • @Paulg13456
    @Paulg13456 2 года назад

    Good video, interesting, would like to see you test Vice and Snell.

  • @colestevens3712
    @colestevens3712 2 года назад

    Love the content but Gabe and LPT Community I need help. I need a KBS max S 85 five iron shaft. My local PGA superstore has told me it will be next year before they are available in store. Are there any ideas on where I can find this specific shaft?

  • @GarageGolf
    @GarageGolf 2 года назад +1

    Very cool video and very creative!! By the way that’s one heck of a shirt my friend!! 😉

  • @alui418able
    @alui418able 2 года назад

    I wished you would follow up this test with putting the balanced golf balls vs the imbalanced golf balls... perhaps part 2?

  • @steve-o5793
    @steve-o5793 2 года назад

    I wonder if you were to cut them open if the unbalanced ones would have thinner cover in some spots

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад

      I did cut them open in the follow up video if you want to see what I found

  • @MrSig-ye8hq
    @MrSig-ye8hq 2 года назад

    How do the Vice Pro Plus' check out?

  • @gcoffey223
    @gcoffey223 2 года назад

    Wow... pro v1 sucked!! I play the chromesoft x ls. Glad you did the test. Thank you, new sub!!

  • @nathanwooten1265
    @nathanwooten1265 2 года назад +2

    Just FYI. The NaCl concentration in “salt water” pools is very low. They are actually chlorine pools as they use an electric salt chlorine generator to produce chlorine to sanitize the water.

  • @frankperez526
    @frankperez526 2 года назад +3

    I am surprised that any of the cheap two piece were out of balance. You have the core and the cover so it is hard to screw that up but apparently they did. The premium balls are three & four piece so they are much more difficult to manufacture and more likely to be out of balance. I am really surprised about the Pro V1 because they tested best during the My Golf Spy quality tests. A couple of years ago the Callaway Chrome Soft tested really really bad but you have to give credit to Callaway. They owned it and expended over 50 million dollars upgrading they factories to stop those quality issues. I had stopped playing Callaway balls for that reason but it looks like they got their shit together. I might have to switch back to Callaway CS from Titleist ProV1. Thanks for the great video.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  2 года назад +1

      Maybe I got a bad batch, but def scary that so many were out of balance.

    • @frankperez526
      @frankperez526 2 года назад

      @@LetsPlayThru I might do my own testing. I still have a couple of Pro V1 boxes but it is good to see Callaway doing so well on the test.

    • @dmkfactor1721
      @dmkfactor1721 2 года назад +1

      Glad you brought up the My Golf Spy testing. The ProV1 and Bridgestones always test the best in their quality testing. I just got some ProV1s yesterday, and thinking of doing the same now too.

  • @davidnash8586
    @davidnash8586 2 года назад

    This explains my entire game !

  • @markweaks2239
    @markweaks2239 2 года назад

    Only four spins, all touching the side of the cup. A fun game to win if you can get the dot nearly to the top. A better test would be ten or fifteen spins, placing a new dot each time. The "out-of-balance" ball would show all twelve dots in the same spot. Balanced ball would show green dots - twelve- fifteen dots all over the ball.

  • @Gatorgolfusa
    @Gatorgolfusa 2 года назад

    Love the shirt from Roland!
    Gabe guy the science guy!
    🐊🏌🦅🇺🇲👍

  • @guitarMonke
    @guitarMonke 2 года назад

    Did you take them on course and hit them with the balance points in different orientation?? Would like to see what actual real world difference an off balance ball does with putting or driver.

    • @richardjacobs7632
      @richardjacobs7632 2 года назад

      My “spun balls” almost always line up in the direction I struck the ball!

  • @huskerchris9502
    @huskerchris9502 2 года назад

    Yikes, this was an eye opener
    Thanks. I have a new box of Tour Responses, I may test them

  • @blackheart7886
    @blackheart7886 2 года назад

    Loved that vid.. well done.

  • @magneresjuan
    @magneresjuan 2 года назад

    wow !!!! didn´t know this !!!! great video

  • @wayneriley7367
    @wayneriley7367 2 года назад

    Hogan did this with all the balls he played with; he knew this back in the 50s, exactly the same method you present. with the common person’s bad swing this is probably a waste of time. Except if you want to use it to the advantage; as stated above, when putting put the center of rotation on the putt line. It might roll truer, if your stroke can roll it. And maybe if you slice maybe it can be figured to not slice as much.