THIS COULD BE WHY YOU’RE MISSING PUTTS!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- If you putt with an unbalanced golf ball, is there a chance you'll miss? This is part 2 of our experiment on golf ball balance.
I take the bad balls and set up an experiment to find out if golf balls break different directions. I also cut open the bad balls to find out if anything looks off.
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Great job Gabe! You’re on to something and it will be interesting to see how it spreads through the other Golf RUclipsrs. Thanks a lot for taking the time to do this!
Thanks so much for suggesting this series Steven! It’s been eye-opening to say the least. 😳
I use Vice golf balls and just conducted your test, 7 of 12 of those balls were true round. I then purchased the Callaway ball that was lasered. I then compared the Callaway ball to the "out of round" Vice balls. The Callaways definitely outperformed the OOR Vice balls. I am a believer, thank you for your content.
Hey, thanks so much for sharing your results. 🙏
I would like to see you play a hole or two with a balance vs unbalanced ball.
Very enlightening Gabe. Hopefully the Ball Manufacturers take notice. As their QC relates to our scores.
AMAZING! I can't trust my Pro V 1 balls anymore. I'm just going to buy some mid range price balls from now on.
This was some awesome content. Really eye opening. And now I have yet another excuse when I miss that 4-foot putt! 😂
I’m tempted to do the salt water test with my balls before I play. One suggestion might be to take some of the good golf balls and hit them several times in your simulator and then do a roll test to see if repeated impacts effect ball balance over time.
That's what she said lol
Very good information. Thanks a bunch.
Good video bud. I agree with you and others that a ball with concentricity issues can affect your game.
One thing that I didn't see you mention or that's in the comment section....The types of grass you roll the putt on can and will make a difference in performance. You looked to be on Bermuda greens, and as we can clearly see in the video, the "grain" of the grass was laying towards one side of the cup. (brown and rough) This effected the direction of the roll on all of your shorter attempts later in the video.
I would love to see these types of test performed on either Bent Grass greens or running with the grain of the grass for consistent test.
Thanks for putting in the work!
that is outright flabbergasting.. WOW.
Jus fascinating!! Great work!!
Love to see the test with the Kirkland balls, I play Pro V1’s since the beginning and love the Kirklands still consistent.
Need to change the title to coincide with the first video so this gets more exposure. Definitely eye opening for people who didn't know this was a thing.
Great video. Perhaps you could do a test of a few different manufacturers. Maybe Z-Star, TP5, Tour B, Chrome Soft
really great video. for the price of a pro v1, I think you are well entitled to take the balls back if there is proof they are not balanced right.
You did an outstanding job. The only reason why Callaway has a balance ball is because they were called out for their quality control a few years ago. I am glad they fixed it, giving us a ball we can now trust.
Callaway only has this "higher" quality in their 2022 lines of Chromesoft balls, they charge an extra $5 over the last years so you PAID for it. Try their lower end balls like the $25 Supersoft and it's out of balance
@@albylongballboarder 5 dollars is not that much to have a piece of mind that your golf balls are balanced. Especially at a time when people are spending way too much on a driver and other equipment, it's worth it to get a golf ball that will perform true and accordingly. It is an item you use every stroke.
Great video Gabe. Interesting results.
Yeah, I was surprised by how much of a difference it makes.
Played yesterday and had three puts in the 8ft range that just went by on the right edge had me scratching my head now I know why
Excellent work !
MORE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS PLEASED. 👍👍
Yoooo! Man I never thought about that! I’m definitely blaming my golf balls for me missing putts. 😂. Nice vid bud.
Thanks Raul!
I like the concept of your test. I do believe it would make a difference to a scratch or low handicap on true rolling greens. Just based on the consistency of their putting stroke. 95% of weekend hackers as myself playing public tracks I dont believe it would matter much. I would like to see if it affects ball flight/trajectory/distance. Good work testing it was very informative.
I think an unbalanced ball would affect a weekend hack as much if not more than a lower handicap player. Especially off the tee. Someone who has a miss, would have their miss exaggerated more by the unbalanced ball. For example a slice would be worse than normal.
Whether or not a weekend hack would know it was the ball or swing error is another story. Lol they may think they swung bad and blame themselves, and it was just a bad ball. I know I’ve put a good swing on a couple of cheaper balls and ended up in the rough. I wonder if they were just bad balls, or if what I thought was a good swing wasn’t.
See I would agree if I could find evidence that it affects flight/trajectory/distance as I stated above. Since this video only relates to putting. The other more common variables like swing path and club face angle have more effect on their slice than an unbalanced ball in a high handicapper in my opinion. Since most pros are machines and ridiculous ball strikers their consistency in their game is why I I believe it would affect their round more than an average weekend warrior.
I don't think the ball knows what your handicap is ;)
Maybe you could do a review on the ball spin balancer machines to see if they find the true balance of a ball?
Great video Gabe
Thanks Gabe for both the videos on this subject. I performed the test on a 24 pack of Srixon Z Star balls (found only 1 ball that was off balance) and a 12 pack of Z Star Divides (all good). I was surprised and pleased with the results. The 2nd video did a fine job of showing the effects and possible causes. Brilliant idea and great videos. Thanks again!
Thanks for letting us know the results. Sounds like a good batch there. I've never played a Srixon ball, but I've heard good things.
What a great video seriously one of the best ever. THANK YOU. Would love to see more play the chrome soft myself with the Wilson triad what do you think of that one? Again great video!!!!!
Thanks so much. I haven’t tried the Wilsons but I’ve heard good things. Need to do that.
That’s mind blowing… good info to know. I game with the pro v1x but also use callaway chrome soft like to try both out and compare. Good vid gabe!
Very good info !
Thanks for all the research and work that went into making this video. Very professional and thorough. I've been using Callaway Chrome Soft balls for years, so unfortunately, I can't blame anything but myself for my wayward shots, but that's golf. Always room to improve.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Callaway had major issues with their balls a few years ago. That's why they've got the laser precision stuff now, after mygolfspy exposed their manufacturing issues.
There is another aspect that an unbalanced ball affects, full shots. Two years ago Golf Labs did a robot test with the MaxFli Tour Pro and Tour Pro X. They been balancing their tour balls for a couple of years. It showed that the balls fly higher, longer and straighter when struck along the balance axis. My Golf Spy also did a ball performance test and it showed the MaxFli tour balls to performed as well as the Pro V1s. The only problem with the MaxFli balls is that it only works if you are putting or hitting it off the tee. Personally from now on I will use the MaxFli for everyday play and Callaway Soft for games that matter. I just need to go through my stock of balls first 😀
Awesome video! That's fascinating.
Yeah pretty wild, very unexpected
Another great video, food for thought for many golfers and I hope manufacturers might provide a reponse or invest more heavily like Callaway did after their poor results in the MyGolfSpy tests the other year 👏🏻🤔
Really interesting piece. Knowing this do test the balls you take to the course? If do you make the alignment correction when putting?
This is fantastic, original content!
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing your findings, Gabe.
My pleasure!
Such a great video…. And I do burn the edge and often lip out
Wow wow amazing test great video very informative
I am a firm believer of balls being in balance for straight roll. 2 examples 1) those red play ground balls with the heavy black spot where you add air rolls very imbalanced because of the extra weight at the blow up spot. 2) I bowled for 35 years, was very good and bowling balls have different shaped weight blocks inside of them to help make them hook or curve down the lanes. I spin all my golf balls no matter what brand and use my line. That is why I can't play those 2 tone half and half balls because my line is never on the exact color change. I also think this is very important when teeing off also. An unbalanced ball will slice or hook more from the tee as it has farther go fly and the balance will pull it one way or the other. I line my line on the ball to go in the fairway where I want it to go. I have talked to 3 of my buds and they are now spinning there balls also.
Fellow bowler here 🙌
After watching your last video I ordered a check-go pro. This video just confirmed what I thought would happen. Being able to find the axis of balance, or whatever you would call it, I think would help. I would think that even an out of balance ball has a point where it is most balanced. I think the gadget spins the ball to find that position or point. Being able to line up the ball for hits and putts based on that position is desirable and like you mentioned the line the manufacturer puts on the ball is likely not coordinated along the balance point. As interesting as this all was Gabe, I just don't want to have to do a static balance test for each ball. Whereas putting it in a machine and spinning it for a few seconds is acceptable to me. Now let me emphasize, I am not that good to where I really need to worry about it. But, if I can improve my chances of having a putt go on the intended line and not deviate due to the nature of the ball, I am all for trying to give myself that chance and possibly hole a few more for lower scores. Your little experiment may just end up helping me improve my score along with a lot of other people here. Great stuff Gabe, thanks for taking the time and effort on this. Very eye opening.
I'm right there with you Mick. I'm not looking for any excuses for my putts, but just want to remove as many variables as possible to give myself a fighting chance when it counts.
Very eye opening indeed!
Great couple of videos the balance and the true roll of golf balls, Thanks...
Great work Gabe. I agree it is completely unreasonable to think that any production process is 100% flawless. I do wish you had the ability to use a "Perfect Putter" in your test as I think you would not see that very noticeable bounce of the ball as it first interacts with the grass at the end of your stimp meter ramp. I also ran into this problem when I attempted my own testing a few years ago and I think the "Perfect Putter" would help smooth out this transition to more accurately simulate a putting motion. Love the test but I think the bounce imparts a little too much variability. Keep up the great work!👍👍👍
First I've heard of that putter, but I'll look into it. Thanks.
Great video!
Just another reason to blame on my putting! Awesome stuff!
Do the unbalance ball affect a drive, i know it is almost impossible to be certain but do they repeat the trajectory
Great video Gabe, I'm going to Spain for a golfing stag do and was gonna splash on proV1s for the occasion but I won't be now. Would love to see you do this test with more models, such as TP5pix vs titliest trufeel vs callaway supersoft or the new vice Pro zero
Excellent video. If nothing else, I have one more excuse in my bag for that missed 3-footer.
What is the Stimpmeter you are using? Amazon link? Great video
I'd like to see if the good balls stay balanced after they have been hit a couple of times.
My guess is, once they have a been compressed a few times and have a couple of small blemishes then their original balance with alter. Maybe the bad ones will come good?
Great video! 👍🏼
Thanks!
The best way to test the golf ball, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
I just checked my last dozen Titleist Pro V1x that the CC pro shop ordered from Titleist (4 dozen for the price of 3 - imprinted) They were all perfect. Then I checked a sleeve of 3 that I had with a resort logo on them; one was suspect and two were completely out of balance. Makes me wonder?
Check out the Maxfli Tour golf ball from Dick's Sporting as they are CG'd and supposed to be printed with the alignment of the Center of Gravity.
Interesting video. I suppose that one should do the water test before putting an alignment line in the ball.
Great job thought the test assumes I line the putter up correctly and hit through the line for the ball to cause me to miss. That will happen enough for this to be a real issue? I guess if i likes a ball that’s properly laser tested and is in my price bracket I would get it.
Thanks. Well it’s one less variable for sure if you can play a balanced ball.
Great test…. Fine work sir 👍🏾
Thanks!
so doing research, I found some manufacturers balance the balls, maxfli is one, the alignment mark they put on it is the balance point. I'm wondering if the others do the same, if you were to use an unbalanced ball but use the prov1 line would it putt true?
Excellent video! I would think drives and irons would be even more exaggerated. Reminds me of when I was a kid and we would slip a rock inside a whiffle ball. Must be a way to measure. Maybe a physicist can chime in.
I've thought about doing this in the past, but it could get kinda tedious, unless you never lose, or damage any. Maybe I should just count lip outs as good, to make it faster/easier.
I’m on board with that
Bryson does this balance test with all his golf balls. Your test was fairly scientific. The results repeated themselves and supported your conclusion. Callaway buried a huge balance issue with theres about 3 years ago. Manufacturers have adjusted their process to reduce balancing problems.
Great test Gabe. So if you place the dot on the unbalanced balls up will they have a true roll?
They seemed to go in more consistently for me
I picked myself up a pack of Chromesoft X to practice my put at home.
very revealing when putt moves half a hole width off line. I use any old balls I find on the course. I'm thinking about testing, marking and knowing if they have an in balance so I can always line putt up along the balanced line of the ball 🤔
Maxfli balls come with the CG marked on it for use on drives and putts. Started using them last year and already made my first hole-in-one ever and, anecdotally speaking, I’m putting better too. Just saying….
Congrats on the ace!!!
I second the MaxFli Tour ball. It has definitely been a great ball. I have switched and seen results. No Ace yet .... Congrats. But my scores have dropped. And distance is really good.
Dang! that's crazy! I wonder if pros go through their balls and check before they play them???
Some have mentioned here that Bryson does. I bet more do too.
Try this on an indoor putting green to avoid some of the grass imperfections
Which ball plant are these ProV1 from?
For 50$ a dozen they ALL SHOULD BE LAZER TESTED!!!! Thanks Gabe!!!!!
💯 Mike!
Gabe I love your stuff but there are a couple inconstiencies? First air and water have different densities.Weight to the 2nd decimal will be a better measure. Next without a mechanical release you thumb isnt calibrated. Great effort but each ball each cover material and weight aa well as air pockets inside (small) are going to have impact. Good effort!
I’m curious whether balls can get unbalanced after playing a few rounds with them? Also, tested my Chrome Soft Xs, the only umbalanced one was the one with dirt on it!
Mike, good to know! And yes, I would LOVE to test that out, but with so much water on the course, I'd rarely get multiple rounds out of mine :)
The new Callaway Chrome Soft balls have fixed this problem.
If putts can be drawn offline in that fashion, so could drives and approach shots.
So happy to know my three putts are not my fault…. Great video and very intriguing
At around the 2 minute mark, your comments contradict what happened. Then on the second ball you put the dot to the right and the ball missed to the right , this totally contradicts the theory that the ball was breaking to the heavy side.
I completely understand the principles of dynamic balance , so don’t shoot me down, I agree that a ball with a relatively high degree of imbalance will break to the heavy side, that’s not what was showed in those two instances.
I think your last video sent a lot of us to the kitchen to find some salt, Gabe!
I tested a dozen Chrome Soft Practice balls and a dozen Supersofts. Two of the Chrome Softs seemed to be slightly out of balance, although they didn't always float back to the mark. And all the Supersofts were good. MyGolfSpy says that the more layers there are the more chances for something to go wrong, which makes sense. I'm going to test some TruFeels and Vice Pro Soft.
That is awesome! I guess I should buy stock in Mortons 😂
Wow, great job. Words will spread out, and Titelis will have lot of work to to fix their image
Wow...I'm flabbergasted. I'm a life-long Titleist Balata, Tour Prestige, Pro-V1 low handicapper....and I can't believe I'm now gonna seriously have to switch over to the Callaway laser-tested balls. Very disappointed at Titleist.
Great vid Gabe. Now I know to check my balls before a round if money is going to be on the line.
Same. For a casual round I won't sweat it, but during club competitions and championships I'll be checking.
Wow.. This vid series is literally the death of the prov1, Hello Callaway chrome soft Precision
Ring ring......Gabe, Bob here at Titleist. Great work on the ball testing recently that we’d like to invite you to join team Titleist. How’d you like to be our QC and test every ball we produce before packaging? 😱
Do you think an unbalanced ball would go off line on full shots as well? Perhaps whem the spin is slowing down at the end of its flight?
I wonder the same thing. I wish I had a good answer for you, but to be honest I don’t. I’ve got to think it does something though.
Did you reach out to Titleist or any of the manufacturers about this?
This is actually nuts! So glad you did the stimp meter test…ofc now this means I have one more excuse when I miss a putt 😂
Of course, I’m very happy to oblige 🤣
Great reviews!! No manufacturing process is perfect Acushnet or any other golf ball manufacturer can not provide 100% repeatability during manufacturing. I would have expected their quality assurance to have a higher tolerance and capture 99% of unbalanced balls.
Of course there are always going to be some irregularities in golf balls, but you would think that with all the technology they use the numbers would be rather small. I wonder what tour players do prior to tournaments to make sure they are playing the best/most reliable balls, especially on the greens. One or two missed putts per round will cost any pro a lot of money.
My Golf Spy do a lot of ball testing and I haven't seen this mentioned by them. Worth asking the question.
Maybe they will now 🤷♂️
@@LetsPlayThru just emailed them the link to your first video and asked for a response.
It was a fair test . Not enough to sway me in over thinking balanced or non balanced balls. My friend has one of those check Go spinners . At least according to him leaves the guess out of aligning the ball on putting .
Excellent point, I knew I had to study physics in order to appreciate the really important things!
Please send this video to My Golf Spy they need to see this
Interesting. I knew it wasn’t me!
What course were you at?
It would be interesting for you to contact the guys at My Golf Spy and see what they think. They have always found Titleist balls to have zero flaws I believe in their tests. I definitely see the flaws in that box of balls, initially the My Golf Spy guys found a lot of issues with Callaway balls, and they worked with Callaway to show Callaway the issue and Callaway worked on their process to solve the issue.
If I'm a Titleist executive I am giving you a call right now!
I play budget Top Flite golf balls, and I've always been a little worried about quality control, but it appears that the big name brands aren't any better.
Yes it's been interesting to find they all seem to have QC issues. I'm sure some are worse than others and like many mentioned on the previous video, the more layers, the more opportunities for imperfection.
I may need to test my pro v1xs for balance before competitions. I wonder how balanced was the ball that I made an eagle from 155 yards out. LOL
Sounds like a great shot! Which club?
8 iron
Doing the dirty work! So I guess the lesson is to buy those laser balanced balls from here on out...
Thanks for checking it out!
Interesting test! I bet the onlookers had questions for you
A couple sure did
I'd be contacting titelist to replace the defective balls. I hate to think now I have to test all new balls before I play.
90% of amateur golfers don't hit putts with enough pace, and on the correct line. So an out of balance ball is probably not going to cost you that many strokes, maybe one per round that was hit perfect.
You may be on to something but….. Why did the out of balance ball always miss left irrespective of which side the dot was on ? You alluded to a blade of grass as maybe affecting the roll and I think that maybe right. The grass here is not a perfect surface and the grain may be having an effect. The fact that the uphill putts didnt deviate would suggest inconsistency on the greens surface. IMO a freshly ironed snooker table would be the best surface to use, and I think you need to increase the sample size to be more sure of the findings. I’d be more interested to see the results on a launch monitor. Could an unbalanced ball be made to draw or fade depending upon orientation on the tee ? Now that would be something for the rules guys ! Thanks for the vid.
All fair points Derek. I really like the billiard table idea. Might be time for a follow up :)
Titleist pr department crying right now!!!