Use the atats as they did in the movie but use the atte as a support against the snowspeeders and line all of them up in a halfcircle to press the attack better. PS: or just land the troops and everything closer to the base🙄😂
First I would small recon forces out to scout around and find weak points in the rebellions defence. Then I would call upon the air forces and ask them to bomb the hell out of the hoth base. From there, I would use my AT TE's and AT AT's. To set up a perimeter around the ruins of the base, and send in a large force to kill the survivors.
I'd probably send in the AT AT's first to wipe out ground forces and heavy weapons. Then send in the AT TE's and use them to wipe out any remaining weapons that the AT AT's couldn't reach. Finally, send in the ground forces. The end
Really awesome to see, but not really practical. Sure, it might be difficult to get a walker off without damaging the ship, but there isn't much that a walker can do that a capital ship or good fighter can't. It probably wouldn't be able to enter the ship so it wouldn't be able to assist capturing it, and if it was merely destroyed then somebody has to figure out how to get the thing off the ship.
"We just had a rabble of retired clones down two AT-AT's with a rust bucket of an old walker!" "They're clones, they don't count." "Rebels are using cheap cargo speeders and killing them with tow cables!" "We need it bigger, then."
@@MrRobot-0 That's an issue of how strong your grapples are, and how uneven the cliff surface is. Most cliffs are too uneven for either vehicle to scale.
@@dimenzed and troop transport capability, being able to destroy every single vehicle it has in front of it, not being vulnerable to topple down, serve as also mobile artillery, and more
The AT-AT does seem to be designed to be an artillery platform, with its massive height and heavy weapons. The AT-M6 seems like a logical direction to take it, and a logical way to use it by just pummeling whatever target you happen to have
at-te -stubby -can barely trip if it tried -fast -highly versatile with anti infantry and anti armor cannons -can survive in literally every environment including asteroids -can climb 90° at-at -trips on a yarn string -cant even shoot behind it -no badass top cannon -slow -stupid spaghetti legs -dumb
Fun little (now-Legends) story about the AT-AT. There was an Imperial, who was in training to command AT-ATs. He had his AT-AT lie down (imagine a cat sitting down on its legs) in a simulation when he got attacked by rebel airspeeders, resulting in him easily blasting the Rebels from the sky. When questioned about why he took the "unorthodox" tactic, he replied that since the underbelly wasn't as armoured as the sides and top it made sense to prevent the Rebels from being able to aim up at it, and also since he knew the AT-AT couldn't turn quickly enough to keep them in his front arc and they might do tricksy Rebel things, he didn't want to let them have the chance to go for his legs either. He got transferred to the Stormtroopers.
I read somewhere that the AT-AT were made higher up so that they wouldn't be so vulnerable to landmines, but that also made them less stable, defeating the point of the AT-TE.
1. Affordable 2. Two more legs 3. Less likely to be toppled by grandmas yarn ball 4.if the thing trips not as hard to get up 5. Lighter Edit:RUclips is special and never told me I got replies I’m sorry
I’m wondering if the Empire kept AT-TEs in service if they would have been upgraded to have armor as strong as the AT-AT. I can only assume that such an increase in strength must be attributed to advancements in technology and materials science after the clone wars.
11O1OO111OOO well considering how many troops and how much other equipment could be held in the AT TE, if weight really was a problem for this vehicle which it does not seem to be, but if it was they could convert it from an APC to an IFV, and just used the mounted weapons systems for support but keep the armor.
ree ree In direct combat, most assuredly. However having 1 Venator and 1 ISD I/II work as a pair is basically having a mobile airfield paired with a battleship. They cover the weaknesses of the other craft; Venator is excellent for fleet logistics and hangar space, ISD I/II has enough firepower to slug with multiple similar sized warships. The Empire did a big stupid by completely removing all Old Republic stuff, their new tech like AT-ATs and ISDs should have been implemented without scrapping the older vehicles. Refits and upgrades should have been sought after more heavily.
ree ree Is not worst. Is just that it’s was design for a different purpose. Isd were designed to take on capital ships and do orbital bombardments. Pretty much keep order. Venetors were design to carry a lot of fighters, it was equip to take on a lot of fighters, transports large amounts of troops, and to take medium sized capital ships. Honestly if the empire had one one venator and one isd rader that two isd the would have been more efectivo against the rebels.
@@xXMemelord Thing is the Venator's large fighter complement(400 fighters) and good point defense(52 laser cannons) would make it more dangerous to the rebels.
Well... see this is kind of a good thing. It meant that rebels got to take most the goodies. Venators were sadly lacking except the outer rim but everything else? Saber tanks, ARC’s, V’s, Y’s, Z’s, AT-RT’s, AT-TE’s, maybe AT-AP’s. And let’s not forget LAAT’s. Rebels begged borrowed and stole whatever surplus they could get
Rothana is a Subsidiary of KDY. It's even defended by the KDY defense fleet, lmao. Straight up, empire just lost their mind. I don't think Palps ever expected to be seriously challenged ever again after gave Yoda the smaps down.
I’ve always thought a combined approach would suit the Empire really well. You’ve got an AT-AT as maybe a forward command walker with its great view and sturdy armor, while it’s supported by AT-TE’s that can guard against more maneuverable vehicles and infantry with their laser cannons and mass driver turret, as well as further support your infantry forces.
Van The Man! That’s for sure. In Star Wars Rebels Rex And two other retired Clones AT TE sure took a heck of a beating and still going when helping that rebel team Fight two AT ATs. Sheesh!
I think it could have benefited from dispensing with most of it's troop carrying capacity and using the freeded up space to incorporate a far more powerful main weapon, potentially one strong enough to actually make a dent in an AT-AT, although that would require some additional technology upgrades, not just a bigger gun.
@@redpandarampage2191 It's incredibly stupid. If you want to scare people, you don't make innefficient military equipment. That'll get you killed, and then you won't look scary, you'll just look like an idiot. The empire's already amoral, they just have to be publicly brutal and show how resistance leads to death.
@@bamboozlednoodle6513 Imagine if the Rebels got their hands on a droid foundry (that would solve the man power issue if they also happen to have a Super Star Destroyer).
See, the clone wars was about fighting a war, The civil war was about keeping order. The AT-AT was perfect at keeping order. At-TE was more for an actual war (maybe should’ve been used for the battle of yavin)
Was the AT-AT perfect at keeping order? I don't think so. The AT-ST, sure. But the AT-AT seems perfect for another role in a totalitarian empire. Propaganda. Imagine a few of those marching with legions of storm troopers in a military parade. Sure looks scary and impressive. But when you're actually trying to keep order, seems rather useless at taking out criminals and rebels.
But sometimes wars are fought to keep order; and the Empire would have been fighting a lot of smaller wars we don't hear about much because they'd be focused on crushing planetary defence forces opposed to them in their conquests. Diplomacy (and a lot of threatening envoys; sometimes in the form of Vader giving them a none too polite warning himself) was used to win battles with localised systems that were resistant to imperial expansion, to bring them into line. Or if you're Tarkin, you destroy Alderaan to make the Tarkin Doctrine as clear as it gets. Fear to keep systems in line etc But war is war, civil or not. AT-TEs perform well in the medium walker role with the AT-AT being ideal in the heavy walker role, during the Imperial Era. Both compliment each other very well indeed. AT-ST = Light/scout walker. Very good replacement for the AT-RT in that role. In most regards. AT-TE = Medium walker (relegated from typically being the prevalent heavy walker in the Clone Wars, though early models of the AT-AT were already coming into service during the Clone Wars; see Battle of Jabiim in legends etc) AT-AT = Big ol' sledgehammer option; true Heavy Assault Walker. P.S - I get your general point though still think the Medium walker role has it's place in the Imperial Era. Sadly, the Tarkin Doctrine has taken over the narrative with regards to how the Galactic Empire operated, largely based on the narrow snapshots into the Galactic Empire we get in the Original Trilogy, not showing Medium Walkers (just, light and heavy ones working in tandem) Therefore later books, also turning their attention to the Imperial Navy in an identical fashion, prioritised the ''bigger and badder means better'' approach of the vainglorious Tarkin Doctrine, shunned and sidelined the Empire having a more nuanced attitude to things (even though, they could be just as well written to have known exactly why medium units in larger numbers would be helpful) After all, look at the TIE fighter; it is in keeping with mass produced uniformity, yet there are countless variations on the central basis and theme of the bog standard, middle of the lane TIE fighter. Ironic then that the Empire wouldn't have an absolute legion of AT-TE (Mk. II's?/retrofitted and upgraded, redesigned AT-TE's to eliminate as many design flaws as possible?) walkers to hammer out the Imperial message to more systems than just using a less numerous, more expensive and harder to manufacture AT-AT heavy walker. The Heavy Walker = the Imperial Sledgehammer great for making light work of enemy fortifications. The Medium Walker = _should_ have been the Imperial Mallet to do more precise work. Great for knocking out a general range of terrestrial hostiles. Bonus feature: can also climb cliffs and be used on even small asteroids in space. The Light/scout Walker = the precise nail hammer to go to the finer details of slaughter (i.e. anti-personnel) First Order Megacalibre Walker = Heavy walker on Steroids also remedying tow cable issues. (super heavy walker is probably more appropriate for that monster; or, does it just shift the goal posts to redefine what a heavy walker is? In Episode VIII you can see retrofitted AT-ATs in between the Gorilla Walkers as I prefer to call them, relegated to a support role) That said, Episode VIII is diabolical toxic waste so the less said the better -.-
Reasons why the AT-TE is overall the superior Walker: More legs and lower center of gravity, therefore has more traction candidates cant be "tripped" Has a larger variety of weapons, especially considering the main cannon which cab allow the AT-TE to act in a mobile artillery role. AT-TE can scale vehicle cliffs. Overall a better troop transport. Has weapons facing at both the front and rear, plus a traversing main cannon allowing it to defend itself from attacks in very nearly every direction. Side note: that the AT-TE's main cannon "cant" penetrate the AT-AT'S armored makes absolutely no sense and I refuse to believe that the AT TE doesnt have superior firepower. Edit: AT- TE is also smaller and lighter, and therefore able to be more easily inserted quickly onto the battlefield, vs an AT-AT which needs to be lowered from a warships lift directly or requires a very large and presumably slow, specialized dropship to land on the surface of a planet.
There's another thing with regards to the main gun of the AT-TE versus an AT-AT: you don't have to penetrate an AT-AT to kill it, just make it break a leg.
The Empire didn't want the AT-TE, because the Empire wanted to instill fear and obedience into its population. The AT-TE is indeed the more practical weapon, but it's not that scary and intimidating as an AT-AT in terms of appearances. A tall war machine like the AT-AT allows it to have a height advantage, therefore being able to gun down upon short structures/vehicles and combatants. The AT-TE would be at a disadvantage to an AT-AT up close, because all what an AT-AT has to is just point its guns downward and have a good time shooting at a short and stout target. But at long ranges or confined spaces (i.e. forests, canyons, and urban areas), the AT-AT is at a disadvantage, because the AT-TE can hide because of its shorter profile. Hell, the AT-TE can even hide behind a small hill or go inside a cave or a shed - something an AT-AT can't do. But then again, both vehicles suffer from the likelihood of enemy combatants boarding and hijacking them, especially the AT-TE, where its short height in a confined space can allow infantry to get to high ground and jump on board. I suppose the Empire was trying to minimize if not outright avoid that kind of threat. Because the Empire is trying to police and frighten its citizens into submission, the last thing they want is for rioters or rebels to get to a tall structure and then hop right on top of the AT-AT.
@@tavariskaiser6742 The weapon of terror thing, they're not intended to be used, really. You build them in hopes that no one calls your bluff. If you want a real weapon of terror, you build something practical. Good example: WWII, sure the Germans had their Big Cats and these were indeed very effective weapons, but the Germans were probably dreading facing allied armoured forces because they just keep coming, and they just keep coming, and they just keep coming, and they just keep coming. Finally, having a height advantage can rapidly become a height disadvantage, because sure, you can see your enemy, but they can also see you. The hijacking isn't such a huge issue, I don't think either vehicle has hatches in the roof, so they should be fine. There besides, the kind of terrain where hijacking would be likely if forested areas, or cities, where AT-STs would most likely be main walker present anyway.
I’ve always hated that the SPHA is a walker. Think it would have been cooler if they used a juggernaut chassis and put the gun and command center on it.
@@lenkagamine4145 the whole first-gen clone army seemed to rely on the fact that more guns = more fun, and as the army progressed and even through the rise of the empire, focus seemed to shift on survivable force multipliers yet less survivable individual soldiers
@@amirhaikal6672 According to the lore people made up to explain it. According to how it looks, one has a gigantic gun, one doesn't. Doesn't take rocket science to understand which is stronger.
@@hafor2846 in star wars rebels when the ghost crew first met rex and his surviving clones they were attacked by two ATATs the mas driver cannon barely able to punch through the ATATs armour while a single shot from the ATATs laser cannons highly damages the vehichle. dont believe me? search star wars rebels clones vs the empire
Do some functional redesigns to improve command protection. That forward cockpit is to exposed and under armored and the main gun could use better protection for its gunner.
Yup, I do remember that time we placed a few of them on an asteroid and somehow managed to outflank the Invisible Hand and concnce Grevious to retreat...
Zekram Nordran The AT-AT is huge and not great in anything other than flat ground, like the tsar tank. I think the UT-AT is like the A7V. And the Saber tank is like the FT.
Even if im really ok with that video The AT-AT is a siege walker ... it have been made to be able to shoot from long distance, and stay here for week, and be able to drop troups . . . When you compared to what have faced the Empire after Order 66 . . . i mean, they've not fought against large droïde army ... they fought against Rebellion's, or small armed group, which is why they make the AT-AT The successor of the AT-TE is the AT-ST . . . Fast, Well armored, great firepower ... When you play with it on Battlefront II, you realized this is a beast, there's not manything that can stop you, exept an assault from multiple player ...
Your right but the one counter point I'll make is how easy it is to trip an AT-ST with only 2 legs. Not an issue in BF2 or anything but in a real battle scenario could be easily exploited
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I think an AT-AT could probably one-shot an SPHA. I mean, we see them destroy a shield generator in a single hit. They seem to have basically turbolasers. So I think they'd both kill eachother instantly.
I wonder what the AT-TE’s predecessor would’ve been if the Empire continued using them. I think an AT-TE Mk2 and the AT-AT could have done well in service together.
I like the idea of a walker Trifecta of the AT-AT, AT-TE, and AT-ST. Would bring a lot more balance and support to the ground battles for the Empire. I also don't see why the Empire didn't have an AT-AT variant that projects heavy shielding a lot like the animal used by the Gungans against the droid army. Would provide a lot of cover to troops and other walkers.
The AT-TE was quite versatile. In it's standard configuration, the Empire could've used it as a frontline assault vehicle, an armed and armored troop carrier, or as a fire-support unit with its mass driver. Then there's the fact that the Empire could've constructed it to be modular. They could swap out the mass driver cannon for missile racks, torpedo tubes, a dedicated indirect-fire artillery cannon (I'm thinking something similar to the SPMAT), or an anti-aircraft turret. And there are still countless other potential configurations. Come to think of it, an ion cannon could be quite useful. I'm picturing a scaled down version of the gun on the back of the AT-IC.
Also, I think the AT-AT would make for an excellent combination of a command vehicle, a fire-support vehicle, and (with the addition of top-mounted laser cannon and concussion missile turrets) an anti-aircraft platform. But as a frontline combat vehicle, I think it’s somewhat ineffective compared to the AT-TEs versatility and reliability.
Actually, the mass driver of a AT-TE could be capable of destroying an AT-AT by aiming at its underbelly, the one on Rebels was very old so it makes sense that it couldn't penetrate the underbelly armor
Alejandro Hernández I actually knew that the gun wasn’t at it full for the sound it make. Compared to the one in the clone wars and you will see the difference
@@ezequielrivera5480 yes, its pretty notorius how worn out that AT-TE was, I wonder how many technical difficulties Rex, Wolf and Gregor had while living in that walker
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Well, if the empire was designed to be effective rather then solely focusing on being as scary as possible, there wouldn’t be a rebellion, not the one we know and love anyways. Our rebels had no real business winning, the empire had the tools already built and laying around after the clone wars to bolster the newer vehicles made to fall in line with the Tarkin Doctrine. In space, imagine greater use of the lighter supportive Lancer, the Lancer being a highly effective anti star fighter ship, one that even puts the fear of god into famed revel pilot Wedge, and Carrack vessels in combination with the incredible power of ISDs and victorys which should of also been accompanied by Venators and their rather overkill star fighter carrying capabilities. The alliance had a very limited if not nonexistent ability to face brawl Star destroyers, now imagine filling in the anti star fighter gap the empire so desperately needed to close... Now on the ground, ATATs are perfect at front toward enemy style combat. Brute forcing their way through enemy lines. Now combine that with the ATTE, which’d do great to shield the slower ATATs from smaller, faster threats, and of course them being comparatively small yet still packing plenty of firepower in order to combat infantry and armored targets, they could effective fit into and fight within more obstructed environments, or dangerous and uneven terrain like on Hoth. Being able to be deployed closer and faster and in greater numbers. ATSTs I think would still make good light scout walkers and with the ATTE in the mix, would be more effective as they could better focus on light scout duties. On a side note, I think the Venator if they had kept it on common use within the navy, would be more effective on its carrier role if it sacrificed heavier firepower in favor of anti star fighter and/or lighter anti frigate sort of weapons along with better armor and or shielding. The Venator with its fair size and durability could better protect ISDs by being able to stick closer to them whichd come into play mostly when fighting other capital ships. Since it’s tricky when trying to deal with the issue of being able to utilize your smaller frigates in doing their intended duties while also trying to keep them safe, it’s hard to deal with fighters coming at you if you’re behind the ISD you’re supposed to protect, yet you’re behind the destroyer because you’re trying not to get blasted by opposing capital ships. Just a thought. Curious about anyone’s opinion on this.
You have essentially written out all the flaws of the Tarkin Doctrine and how it still could have been effective Throw in the idea of the empire not neglecting the fighters themselves and you have fixed the Galactic Empire!
You have just pulled every thought out of my head when it comes to republic to empire transition, and why the poor bastards kept getting clapped by a bunch of children.
One of the problems with making a weapon that is supposed to inspire fear or appear monstrous for psych warfare is that eventually that fear will diminish. You are bound to lose one eventually and once the enemy sees that they can be killed, you’ve instead created a boogyman for the enemy to rally against.
I've never bought into the 'separating themselves from the Republic' reason for why the Empire did a lot of what they did. After all, the major symbol of both to the general public. The troops themselves, hardly changed appearance at all. Noticeable, but all together minor changes in helmet and armor design is hardly going to make a difference. Now of course the real reason for these changes is of course that these weren't designed when the original trilogy was made, but in universe the only explanation is a lot of arrogance and idiocy on the part of the Empire. The demand for a display of power, at the expense of practicality and serviceability. Which only worked at all because they had most of the galaxy under their control. Vader's hate, and Palpatine's Dellusions of Grandeur seemed to have deprived the Empire of a lot of it's capable military strategists. Which of course, is why they lost.
They should be both in service, but in different roles. An AT-AT is beat at being either a siege weapon or artillery, putting high energy rounds at long ranges. An AT-TE is more your main battle tank that would be doing clearing the way for your AT-ATs to come in and fortify a position.
There was a great strip from the Imperial Heroes comic where one of Luke's best friends from Tatooine, Tank, is the central character. In this story, Tank as an imperial officer is attached to an Imperial Stormtrooper and Army Trooper company which has been dispatched to find out about the situation with an outpost. During the operation, the Imperial detachment has 2 Clone Wars Era Juggernauts and 1 AT-TE modified as a command platform to give the command some mobility and firepower.
@@501ststormtrooper9 Also it they were commanded by agent Kallus one of the dumbiest imperial officers by far be for he joined the rebels. Kallus was be suited to be an agent of the empire work for the ISB and what not as he seem to be decent enough in working as agent in the empire. Not mech commander I wouldn't even trust him with a small squad of at pts let along a company of AT-ATs. in addition to plot armour. General Veers was the perfect man to Command AT-ATs as even as early as his Junior Officer days got know how the AT-AT works and how to best use it in combat. He even played a big role in its design development in his senior ranks as a career officer at least with later models we see in the Battle of Hoth. But come on who was the moron that let Kallus command 3 of them let alone give him the car keys for to drive an AT-AT
Yes but snow speeders can confuse at at's legs but if are infront the at tes can destroy the snow speeders before they are to close to shoot their rop to confuse at at's legs
Say the ATTE has crab droid style legs for better maneuverability and maybe even become faster as well, the heavy cannon can charge for even stronger blast, and it had a shield generator added to it, then we have a walker
@@lenkagamine4145 After rewatching rebels and other .media outlets that's simply not true, a rocket launcher aimed at joint is apparently enought to cripple it
@@thealexgundam5006 True, but still, why risk the tanks when you can have the artillery do it from a safe distance, and render the terrain unsuitable for the AT-ATs to pass in the future?
Even with the Tarkin doctrine, it's still really, really stupid that the Empire decided its main walker, the AT-AT, should have two defining features: 1. Guns that can only fire directly forwards in a small cone 2. The almost complete inability to turn at any reasonable speed Pretty sure any ground soldier could be safe from one of these things by just running to the side continuously, since you can probably out-strafe its turning speed on foot.
@@lenkagamine4145 Star Wars has the capacity to make some pretty scary tanks. Imagine a Star Wars version of the M1A2 Abrams, that'd make use of repulsorlift engines, deflector shields and a laser cannon. You could construct dozens of them for the same price as an AT-AT. In a battle you'd lose some during the initial "charge", but once the tanks outflanked the AT-AT they'd be perfectly safe kiting around the beast and targeting joints/mechanical weaknesses with their cannons.
@@prvt.harumi6821 repulsorlift because they're often made on the cheap. Speeders are repulsorlift after all. And only difference between a laser cannon and turbo laser is essentially calibre. Still an AT-TE style mass driver would be a good alternative.
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
I just love the look of everything in the Old Republic, the ships, the walkers, the guns, everything has so much variety... Now we only have letters for ships and a bunch of balls that shoot lasers
Everyone: *"AT-TE are the best!"* -Gets destroyed by a single missile -Thin armour,great against laser, useless against missiles -Cockpit sealed with just glass.... Hell, even dwarf spider droids can destroy this huge fat target -Main gunner exposed to the elements and snipers -almost no armor on the underbelly -a *LOT* of weakspots -slow yet not too slow tbh -big fat target for tanks,artillery and bombers -have 6 legs but can no longer move when 1 is taken out -did I mentioned the glass cockpit? Yes! But still... *GLASS*
@@Sorry_2026 yes but if we're talking about the empire here they are not using V wings and ARC-170's. But imagine if your on a planet and the skies turn black from TIE Bombers
Ghost in The Shell is the only franchise I've seen with legit practical walkers, the Tachikomas have wheels embedded in the legs. They use the wheels for fast travel, legs for super tough terrain.
I think the Covenant scarab is also practical. In general I think crab-like or spider-like walkers make sense, they have wider strides which would help with rougher terrain. I mean I guess the whole "pretty much open and vulnerable to boarding" thing is dumb with teh scarab, but hte overall design is fine.
The manufacturer of the AT-TE, Kuat Drive Yard, had commissioned the weapon via subcontract with Kamino specialized for clones. Not sure why they didn't produce more, but they were used in the Galactic Civil War in the Outer Rim.
I tried at one point to figure out exactly how tough AT-AT armor is. There are diagrams from which one can take reasonable guesses of just how thick the armor is, which mainly just left the question of how tough durasteel is in RHA equivalency (RHA: Rolled Homogenous Armor, was the standard type of steel used for tank armor before the invention of composite armor. The strength of modern tank armors are still often given in RHA equivalency). The closest I could find for the strength of durasteel was this line from Wookieepedia "More resistant than standard steel but weaker than the common alloys of titanium". So I found an article comparing the relative strengths of titanium and RHA (I am assuming that "standard steel" is RHA, really there is no such thing as "standard steel". Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon, and you can get very different steels with very different properties by changing the amount and distribution of the carbon added to the iron (some steels are actually stronger than titanium)). It gave the mass of a cubic centimeter of titanium at 4.45 grams and a cubic centimeter of RHA at 7.85 grams (so titanium is about 43% lighter per unit of volume than RHA), and the hardness of titanium at 302-364HB and the hardness of RHA 241-331 HB (so titanium seems to be somewhere from 50% stronger to 10% weaker than RHA per unit of volume). So I figured that titanium is probably about 2.2 times stronger per unit of mass than RHA, and if durasteel is a bit weaker than titanium I'll just call it at twice as strong as RHA (I am being generous with the strength of durasteel by assuming that it has the same density as RHA but is "weaker than common alloys of titanium" per unit of mass, rather than per unit of volume). So now all I need to do is figure out the thickness of AT-AT armor, double it, and I'll have the strength of AT-AT armor in RHA equivalency. I did find an image cross section of an AT-AT, from which it might be possible to get an exact thickness (I haven't done any math on it yet (there are humans in the picture, so all it would take would be to take the average height of a human and divide it by the number of times the shown thicknesses will fit into one of the shown humans) but just eyeballing it I seriously doubt an AT-AT could survive an APFSDS round fired from a modern tank (considering such rounds generally have 400-700mm of penetration I would say they will probably slice right through the AT-AT from end to end like it was butter. Although some areas, such as the sloped section just above the main viewport, might just be thick enough to withstand some modern tank rounds). starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Durasteel cdn.ymaws.com/titanium.org/resource/resmgr/2010_2014_papers/GOOCHWilliam_2011.pdf www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F64%2F4b%2F5f%2F644b5f3c39909f44e3129642a751aa13.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpamchilds%2Fstar-wars%2F&tbnid=UHVn0gT5bZNfzM&vet=12ahUKEwjV6pnnicruAhXK654KHSW_An8QMygCegQIARA8..i&docid=RSA8usSj-D1EBM&w=640&h=978&q=at-at%20armor%20thickness&ved=2ahUKEwjV6pnnicruAhXK654KHSW_An8QMygCegQIARA8 www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Ammunition_Data
Dammit Eck! You put thoughts into my head again for 'Imperialised refits' of MORE Clone-wars vehicles! AT/IE: 'All Terrain Imperial Enforcer' - Remove the dorsal mass driver, replace two of the forward guns with heavier versions, add docking attachments to the top so it can be carried under a Gazonti. BAM! AT/TC: 'All Terrain Tactical Command' - Remove Dorsal and rear weapons, remove transport capacity, add advanced sensor and communication suite. BAM! Ground-based AWAKS/command vehicle. AT/ARL: 'All Terrain Artillery Rocket Launcher' - Remove dorsal and rear weapons, completely replace rear pod with a 'pop-up' MRLS type launcher. BAM! light artillery on a armoured platform. I'm gonna have to pursue some of these ideas to be ground forces for my IDSEF concept... ^^; ~JD
Awesome video man! I really agree that they empire should at least have kept the AT-TEs in their arsenal, but you know how they are with all their Tarkin Doctrine nonsense
If you were commanding the Empire's ground forces at the Battle of Hoth, with both AT-AT's and AT-TE's, what would your plan be?
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*Attempt 749*
Remember to do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man faction versus video.
Use the atats as they did in the movie but use the atte as a support against the snowspeeders and line all of them up in a halfcircle to press the attack better.
PS: or just land the troops and everything closer to the base🙄😂
First I would small recon forces out to scout around and find weak points in the rebellions defence. Then I would call upon the air forces and ask them to bomb the hell out of the hoth base. From there, I would use my AT TE's and AT AT's. To set up a perimeter around the ruins of the base, and send in a large force to kill the survivors.
I'd probably send in the AT AT's first to wipe out ground forces and heavy weapons. Then send in the AT TE's and use them to wipe out any remaining weapons that the AT AT's couldn't reach. Finally, send in the ground forces. The end
I’m just gonna say, I’ve never seen an AT-AT drop from a destroyer and land onto an enemy ship. That AT-TE was awesome.
Swanky they have be fore
Really awesome to see, but not really practical. Sure, it might be difficult to get a walker off without damaging the ship, but there isn't much that a walker can do that a capital ship or good fighter can't. It probably wouldn't be able to enter the ship so it wouldn't be able to assist capturing it, and if it was merely destroyed then somebody has to figure out how to get the thing off the ship.
@@joebomb1019 idk a lat dropping a walker in the middle of your hanger sounds like a bad day
That part during the clone wars was pretty cool
@@joebomb1019 The Empire had lots of huge transports which could hold walkers.
"Sir, I think we should continue the service of this republic vehicle, as it can - "
"Is it really big and scary?"
"I, uh, no?"
"Then no"
"We just had a rabble of retired clones down two AT-AT's with a rust bucket of an old walker!"
"They're clones, they don't count."
"Rebels are using cheap cargo speeders and killing them with tow cables!"
"We need it bigger, then."
Yes, look how well Tarkin's doctrine served him.
@@oneproudbrowncoat That was also more of General Veers's idea as well. He endorsed the AT-AT.
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 Veers' career also foundered, as I recall.
Captain Rex: "I hope you brought a better class of walkers than those... AT-AT."
At-At: Im an all terrain vehicle
At-te: *scales vertical cliff* what was that?
At-At: iam the superior terrpr wapeon.
The juggernauth at 100km/h: you woth mate?
AT-TE or in fancy terms All Terain Tactical Enforcer
Vehicle with treads: *drives over terrain neither could* You two are adorable.
@@CallanElliott when you tread tank can scale a verical clif we talk buddy.
@@MrRobot-0 That's an issue of how strong your grapples are, and how uneven the cliff surface is. Most cliffs are too uneven for either vehicle to scale.
This thing can climb tall walls, walk on asteroids, and board Separatist ships. For sure, you can’t deny the AT-TE’s versatility.
And you can load it onto a modified laat
And that's the only thing it has - versatility.
@@dimenzed Versatility is important in a galactic empire that follows a doctrine of "everything must be standardised".
@@Jockster109 general Veers begs to differ.
@@dimenzed and troop transport capability, being able to destroy every single vehicle it has in front of it, not being vulnerable to topple down, serve as also mobile artillery, and more
Eck: “I’ve got an idea on how to better utilize Imperial assets.”
Tarkin: “It’s treason then.”
Lol
The AT-AT does seem to be designed to be an artillery platform, with its massive height and heavy weapons. The AT-M6 seems like a logical direction to take it, and a logical way to use it by just pummeling whatever target you happen to have
It's much harder to trip an AT-TE too. Six legs.
at-te
-stubby
-can barely trip if it tried
-fast
-highly versatile with anti infantry and anti armor cannons
-can survive in literally every environment including asteroids
-can climb 90°
at-at
-trips on a yarn string
-cant even shoot behind it
-no badass top cannon
-slow
-stupid spaghetti legs
-dumb
Also it is a command vehicle you cant hack it
Fun little (now-Legends) story about the AT-AT. There was an Imperial, who was in training to command AT-ATs. He had his AT-AT lie down (imagine a cat sitting down on its legs) in a simulation when he got attacked by rebel airspeeders, resulting in him easily blasting the Rebels from the sky. When questioned about why he took the "unorthodox" tactic, he replied that since the underbelly wasn't as armoured as the sides and top it made sense to prevent the Rebels from being able to aim up at it, and also since he knew the AT-AT couldn't turn quickly enough to keep them in his front arc and they might do tricksy Rebel things, he didn't want to let them have the chance to go for his legs either.
He got transferred to the Stormtroopers.
I read somewhere that the AT-AT were made higher up so that they wouldn't be so vulnerable to landmines, but that also made them less stable, defeating the point of the AT-TE.
@@KanuckStreams bruh moment
"Why the Empire should've never stopped using the AT-TE"
cause it looks cool af
Looks aren't everything...
@@dimenzed maybe not but if you can kick some serious ass and look good doing it then why the hell not?
@@scruffylookingNerfherder5742 well Veers looked pretty badass on Hoth while killing rebel scum.
Walkers look cool but are dumb with the level of tech in Star Wars.
@@lilsammich8252 there are other vehicles besides them you know...
Wolffy: "It looks like our walkers, but it has four legs?"
Gregor: Four? Four?! How it isn't falling down?
A couple of years later…
Luke skywalker: lmao look they’re tripping
1. Affordable
2. Two more legs
3. Less likely to be toppled by grandmas yarn ball
4.if the thing trips not as hard to get up
5. Lighter
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But the At-At is nostalgic
6.Crew has a dramatically higher chance to survive the fall if it does.
*Gets destroyed by a single rocket*
@@sicksadworld765 screw nostalgia, AT-TE is the best
ᎷᎡ.KᎪ- ᏴᎾᎾᎷ: HEY, remember the AT-TE was originally designed for space exploration not combat. I think
I’m wondering if the Empire kept AT-TEs in service if they would have been upgraded to have armor as strong as the AT-AT. I can only assume that such an increase in strength must be attributed to advancements in technology and materials science after the clone wars.
Spartan S238 that’s not a bad idea
Can AT-TE legs support the weight of AT-AT armor?
11O1OO111OOO well considering how many troops and how much other equipment could be held in the AT TE, if weight really was a problem for this vehicle which it does not seem to be, but if it was they could convert it from an APC to an IFV, and just used the mounted weapons systems for support but keep the armor.
A heavy AT-TE. Otherwise known as the HAT-TE.
At the least, up-armor the driver's compartment. Cover that lovely picture window they got up there.
Wolf: I'm going for the legs all 4 of them
Agent callus: those clones have gone mad
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Empire: What are people afraid of?
Random Officer: Spiders?
Empire: YES! BUILD ME A 12 METER TALL METAL SPIDER WALKER!
Or the Venators. Or the LAATs.
Or, you know, Most vehicles from the Clone Wars.
Rensune venators i understand becuase im pretty sure theyre just worse than isds.
ree ree In direct combat, most assuredly. However having 1 Venator and 1 ISD I/II work as a pair is basically having a mobile airfield paired with a battleship. They cover the weaknesses of the other craft; Venator is excellent for fleet logistics and hangar space, ISD I/II has enough firepower to slug with multiple similar sized warships.
The Empire did a big stupid by completely removing all Old Republic stuff, their new tech like AT-ATs and ISDs should have been implemented without scrapping the older vehicles. Refits and upgrades should have been sought after more heavily.
ree ree Is not worst. Is just that it’s was design for a different purpose. Isd were designed to take on capital ships and do orbital bombardments. Pretty much keep order. Venetors were design to carry a lot of fighters, it was equip to take on a lot of fighters, transports large amounts of troops, and to take medium sized capital ships. Honestly if the empire had one one venator and one isd rader that two isd the would have been more efectivo against the rebels.
@@xXMemelord Thing is the Venator's large fighter complement(400 fighters) and good point defense(52 laser cannons) would make it more dangerous to the rebels.
Well... see this is kind of a good thing. It meant that rebels got to take most the goodies. Venators were sadly lacking except the outer rim but everything else? Saber tanks, ARC’s, V’s, Y’s, Z’s, AT-RT’s, AT-TE’s, maybe AT-AP’s. And let’s not forget LAAT’s. Rebels begged borrowed and stole whatever surplus they could get
Kuat Drive yards cannot beat *SUPERIOR ROTHANA ENGINEERING*
Rothana is a Subsidiary of KDY. It's even defended by the KDY defense fleet, lmao. Straight up, empire just lost their mind. I don't think Palps ever expected to be seriously challenged ever again after gave Yoda the smaps down.
which is why they bought it
@@spencerwillkie4997 No, KDY *FOUNDED* Rothana Heavy Engineering, it was a a subsidiary of theirs right from the start
I’ve always thought a combined approach would suit the Empire really well. You’ve got an AT-AT as maybe a forward command walker with its great view and sturdy armor, while it’s supported by AT-TE’s that can guard against more maneuverable vehicles and infantry with their laser cannons and mass driver turret, as well as further support your infantry forces.
AT-TE was the best I don't blame Rex for leaving the empire.
That’s a good one!
Van The Man! That’s for sure. In Star Wars Rebels Rex And two other retired Clones AT TE sure took a heck of a beating and still going when helping that rebel team Fight two AT ATs. Sheesh!
*gets destroyed by a single missile from a Hailfire droid*
I think it could have benefited from dispensing with most of it's troop carrying capacity and using the freeded up space to incorporate a far more powerful main weapon, potentially one strong enough to actually make a dent in an AT-AT, although that would require some additional technology upgrades, not just a bigger gun.
@buffalo wt if you look closely you'll see a lot of "lucky" hits in the background... and a lot of wrecked AT-TEs.
The Tarkin Doctrine messed a whole lot of things. The Rebels by the way actually had AT-TE walkers.
Tarkin doctrine straight up sucked.
Rebels: If the Empire won't use them then fine by us.
@@redpandarampage2191 It's incredibly stupid. If you want to scare people, you don't make innefficient military equipment. That'll get you killed, and then you won't look scary, you'll just look like an idiot. The empire's already amoral, they just have to be publicly brutal and show how resistance leads to death.
They also had reprogrammed Hailfire droids and LAAT gunships
@@bamboozlednoodle6513 Imagine if the Rebels got their hands on a droid foundry (that would solve the man power issue if they also happen to have a Super Star Destroyer).
The virgin AT-AT vs. the Chad AT-TE
no we don't use those words in the republic
Don’t say chad please
An AT-AT isn't a virgin but when compared to an AT-TE an AT-AT looks like a crappy virgin vehicle
@@Masterchuh5
*chad*
the AT-AT would have destroyed the AT-TE
See, the clone wars was about fighting a war, The civil war was about keeping order. The AT-AT was perfect at keeping order. At-TE was more for an actual war (maybe should’ve been used for the battle of yavin)
The O’Neill principle. One is a weapon of terror, meant to intimidate. The other is a weapon of war, meant to kill.
I completely agree and literally just said the same thing lol
@@battlesheep2552 I loved that episode of Stargate.
Was the AT-AT perfect at keeping order? I don't think so. The AT-ST, sure. But the AT-AT seems perfect for another role in a totalitarian empire. Propaganda. Imagine a few of those marching with legions of storm troopers in a military parade. Sure looks scary and impressive. But when you're actually trying to keep order, seems rather useless at taking out criminals and rebels.
But sometimes wars are fought to keep order; and the Empire would have been fighting a lot of smaller wars we don't hear about much because they'd be focused on crushing planetary defence forces opposed to them in their conquests. Diplomacy (and a lot of threatening envoys; sometimes in the form of Vader giving them a none too polite warning himself) was used to win battles with localised systems that were resistant to imperial expansion, to bring them into line. Or if you're Tarkin, you destroy Alderaan to make the Tarkin Doctrine as clear as it gets. Fear to keep systems in line etc But war is war, civil or not.
AT-TEs perform well in the medium walker role with the AT-AT being ideal in the heavy walker role, during the Imperial Era. Both compliment each other very well indeed.
AT-ST = Light/scout walker. Very good replacement for the AT-RT in that role. In most regards.
AT-TE = Medium walker (relegated from typically being the prevalent heavy walker in the Clone Wars, though early models of the AT-AT were already coming into service during the Clone Wars; see Battle of Jabiim in legends etc)
AT-AT = Big ol' sledgehammer option; true Heavy Assault Walker.
P.S - I get your general point though still think the Medium walker role has it's place in the Imperial Era. Sadly, the Tarkin Doctrine has taken over the narrative with regards to how the Galactic Empire operated, largely based on the narrow snapshots into the Galactic Empire we get in the Original Trilogy, not showing Medium Walkers (just, light and heavy ones working in tandem)
Therefore later books, also turning their attention to the Imperial Navy in an identical fashion, prioritised the ''bigger and badder means better'' approach of the vainglorious Tarkin Doctrine, shunned and sidelined the Empire having a more nuanced attitude to things (even though, they could be just as well written to have known exactly why medium units in larger numbers would be helpful)
After all, look at the TIE fighter; it is in keeping with mass produced uniformity, yet there are countless variations on the central basis and theme of the bog standard, middle of the lane TIE fighter. Ironic then that the Empire wouldn't have an absolute legion of AT-TE (Mk. II's?/retrofitted and upgraded, redesigned AT-TE's to eliminate as many design flaws as possible?) walkers to hammer out the Imperial message to more systems than just using a less numerous, more expensive and harder to manufacture AT-AT heavy walker.
The Heavy Walker = the Imperial Sledgehammer great for making light work of enemy fortifications.
The Medium Walker = _should_ have been the Imperial Mallet to do more precise work. Great for knocking out a general range of terrestrial hostiles. Bonus feature: can also climb cliffs and be used on even small asteroids in space.
The Light/scout Walker = the precise nail hammer to go to the finer details of slaughter (i.e. anti-personnel)
First Order Megacalibre Walker = Heavy walker on Steroids also remedying tow cable issues.
(super heavy walker is probably more appropriate for that monster; or, does it just shift the goal posts to redefine what a heavy walker is? In Episode VIII you can see retrofitted AT-ATs in between the Gorilla Walkers as I prefer to call them, relegated to a support role) That said, Episode VIII is diabolical toxic waste so the less said the better -.-
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Eckhartsladder: The AT-AT looks like a gigantic-
Me: (hoping for Family Guy reference) ROBOT CAMEL?!
Eckhartsladder: metal beast
Me: Aww man.
'Check it out! That one's wearing Crocs'.
I see both robot camel and a half-giraffe/half-sloth, with concrete overshoes.
@@MonkeyJedi99 "Why does this Imperial walker have concrete shoes?"
"It's outer rim Sicilian. It means the AT-AT swims with the fishes."
It's a giant dog, fight me
@@jakejohnson718 that's correct
Lived up to its all terrain as it could climb walls and shit. Something it’s successors missed out on.
Cyber Flame I was in shock as heck when I saw that TE Scale a Cliff side. I’m like HOLY SH”T!!
Yeah, definitely. The "All Terrain" in AT-TE is no joke.
But the AT-AT is good for deep water and swampland
@@florentitan1474 isn’t the interior of a TE pressurized? I wouldn’t be surprised to learn it could function under water
@@Rothana76 It is but I don’t think you can’t fire the weapons while underwater that and if it is to deep the damage can be to much for the walker
Reasons why the AT-TE is overall the superior Walker:
More legs and lower center of gravity, therefore has more traction candidates cant be "tripped"
Has a larger variety of weapons, especially considering the main cannon which cab allow the AT-TE to act in a mobile artillery role.
AT-TE can scale vehicle cliffs.
Overall a better troop transport.
Has weapons facing at both the front and rear, plus a traversing main cannon allowing it to defend itself from attacks in very nearly every direction.
Side note: that the AT-TE's main cannon "cant" penetrate the AT-AT'S armored makes absolutely no sense and I refuse to believe that the AT TE doesnt have superior firepower.
Edit: AT- TE is also smaller and lighter, and therefore able to be more easily inserted quickly onto the battlefield, vs an AT-AT which needs to be lowered from a warships lift directly or requires a very large and presumably slow, specialized dropship to land on the surface of a planet.
PYRO GOTHICA yeah I agree it’s main gun is much larger than anything the at-at has mounted in general you have armour that can stop your own weapons.
There's another thing with regards to the main gun of the AT-TE versus an AT-AT: you don't have to penetrate an AT-AT to kill it, just make it break a leg.
Gun measuring contenst.
The Empire didn't want the AT-TE, because the Empire wanted to instill fear and obedience into its population. The AT-TE is indeed the more practical weapon, but it's not that scary and intimidating as an AT-AT in terms of appearances. A tall war machine like the AT-AT allows it to have a height advantage, therefore being able to gun down upon short structures/vehicles and combatants.
The AT-TE would be at a disadvantage to an AT-AT up close, because all what an AT-AT has to is just point its guns downward and have a good time shooting at a short and stout target. But at long ranges or confined spaces (i.e. forests, canyons, and urban areas), the AT-AT is at a disadvantage, because the AT-TE can hide because of its shorter profile. Hell, the AT-TE can even hide behind a small hill or go inside a cave or a shed - something an AT-AT can't do.
But then again, both vehicles suffer from the likelihood of enemy combatants boarding and hijacking them, especially the AT-TE, where its short height in a confined space can allow infantry to get to high ground and jump on board. I suppose the Empire was trying to minimize if not outright avoid that kind of threat. Because the Empire is trying to police and frighten its citizens into submission, the last thing they want is for rioters or rebels to get to a tall structure and then hop right on top of the AT-AT.
@@tavariskaiser6742 The weapon of terror thing, they're not intended to be used, really. You build them in hopes that no one calls your bluff. If you want a real weapon of terror, you build something practical. Good example: WWII, sure the Germans had their Big Cats and these were indeed very effective weapons, but the Germans were probably dreading facing allied armoured forces because they just keep coming, and they just keep coming, and they just keep coming, and they just keep coming. Finally, having a height advantage can rapidly become a height disadvantage, because sure, you can see your enemy, but they can also see you.
The hijacking isn't such a huge issue, I don't think either vehicle has hatches in the roof, so they should be fine. There besides, the kind of terrain where hijacking would be likely if forested areas, or cities, where AT-STs would most likely be main walker present anyway.
I’ve always hated that the SPHA is a walker. Think it would have been cooler if they used a juggernaut chassis and put the gun and command center on it.
SPHA is from Attack of the Clones, right? Big electrical beam cannon thing on it?
Christian Bryan yes
Ok thank you cause eck showed that one repulsorlift tank vehicle from Episode 3 when he was talking about the SPHA.
It would look better. But, you know, it was designed first.
I swear that MT AT looks like the giant mechanical spider from The Wild West
Wild *Wild* West. Excuse you.
YES!
"The Empire generally went with more obviously destructive but less nuanced vehicles"
*laughs in top-mounted mass driver*
I mean wouldnt the most 'obviously destructive' vehicle be like, an SPHA? Dont see AT-AT's taking down capital ships.
@@lenkagamine4145 the whole first-gen clone army seemed to rely on the fact that more guns = more fun, and as the army progressed and even through the rise of the empire, focus seemed to shift on survivable force multipliers yet less survivable individual soldiers
The top mounted mass driver is highly inferior to the ATAT's heavy laser cannons
@@amirhaikal6672 According to the lore people made up to explain it. According to how it looks, one has a gigantic gun, one doesn't. Doesn't take rocket science to understand which is stronger.
@@hafor2846 in star wars rebels when the ghost crew first met rex and his surviving clones they were attacked by two ATATs the mas driver cannon barely able to punch through the ATATs armour while a single shot from the ATATs laser cannons highly damages the vehichle. dont believe me?
search star wars rebels clones vs the empire
The AT-TE is my favorite walker for various reasons and this video basically covers them all.
Should've just kept using the AT TE with a new empire paintjob, along with the AT ST. It has more guns, and its more intimidating imo.
Especially to rebel infantry. Good luck ambushing something that can fire in 360 degrees.
Do some functional redesigns to improve command protection. That forward cockpit is to exposed and under armored and the main gun could use better protection for its gunner.
Idk if you’re watching Bad Batch but I think they showed just how terrifying they can be in some of these recent episodes.
The AT-ST was an Imperial invention, my guy
@@commandercody2980 We know but the AT-ST would be great for supporting the AT-TE and any Infantry around them.
AT-AT: giant walking turtle with really tall legs
AT-TE: *b i g g u n*
Yup, I do remember that time we placed a few of them on an asteroid and somehow managed to outflank the Invisible Hand and concnce Grevious to retreat...
Hey Eck, have you considered doing a video on battle meditation? Like how it works and it’s history and stuff. Love your content.
#AskEck
The AT-TE is like the British Mk V while the AT-AT is like the Tsar Tank.
AT-ST is the Renault FT then?
nah the AT-TE's the Renault, the AT-AT is the A7V
Zekram Nordran The AT-AT is huge and not great in anything other than flat ground, like the tsar tank. I think the UT-AT is like the A7V. And the Saber tank is like the FT.
Don’t you mean the AT-AT is like the bob Semple tank
@@bengoodwin465 The FT unlike the Saber has a fully functional main turret
Even if im really ok with that video
The AT-AT is a siege walker ... it have been made to be able to shoot from long distance, and stay here for week, and be able to drop troups . . .
When you compared to what have faced the Empire after Order 66 . . . i mean, they've not fought against large droïde army ... they fought against Rebellion's, or small armed group, which is why they make the AT-AT
The successor of the AT-TE is the AT-ST . . . Fast, Well armored, great firepower ...
When you play with it on Battlefront II, you realized this is a beast, there's not manything that can stop you, exept an assault from multiple player ...
Your right but the one counter point I'll make is how easy it is to trip an AT-ST with only 2 legs. Not an issue in BF2 or anything but in a real battle scenario could be easily exploited
@@UnholyWrath3277 The AT-ST can be disabled easily, though.
Aim a rocket at it's "Achiilles Tendon's".
“I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Republic, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Chancellor’s Government-every man of them. That is the will of Senate and the Republic. The Galactic Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native planets, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength. Even though large tracts of space and many old and famous planets have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Confederacy of Independent Systems and all the odious apparatus of Separatist rule, we shall not flag or fail. And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Republic or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our nation beyond the stars, armed and guarded by the Republic Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in Force’s good time, the New Galaxys, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old and new. For ALL species in this galaxy. We shall go on to the end. We shall FIGHT in Anaxes, we shall FIGHT on the seas and oceans, we shall FIGHT with growing confidence and growing strength in the air and space, we shall defend our Republic, whatever the cost may be, we shall FIGHT on the beaches, we shall FIGHT on the landing grounds, we shall FIGHT in the fields and in the streets, we shall FIGHT in the hills, we shall FIGHT in space and the stars; we shall NEVER SURRENDER!!!”
nice ref
Only true intellectuals get this.
Grand Master Churchill, what about the Wehrmacht attack on the wookies?
*Slow salute with "All Stars Burn as One" playing in the background*
I love that you did this, easily one of my favorite inspiring speeches, and I'm not even British.
I came here for a video, I ended up reading a book
5:10 The SPHA could kill an AT-AT with one shot, while it's own heavy armour prevents the AT-AT from doing the same.
I think an AT-AT could probably one-shot an SPHA. I mean, we see them destroy a shield generator in a single hit. They seem to have basically turbolasers. So I think they'd both kill eachother instantly.
AT-M6
Laughs in turbolaser
I wonder what the AT-TE’s predecessor would’ve been if the Empire continued using them. I think an AT-TE Mk2 and the AT-AT could have done well in service together.
I like the idea of a walker Trifecta of the AT-AT, AT-TE, and AT-ST. Would bring a lot more balance and support to the ground battles for the Empire. I also don't see why the Empire didn't have an AT-AT variant that projects heavy shielding a lot like the animal used by the Gungans against the droid army. Would provide a lot of cover to troops and other walkers.
You know how I love anything with AT in it. Also...not sure whats changed but the video flowed super nice.
The AT-TE was quite versatile. In it's standard configuration, the Empire could've used it as a frontline assault vehicle, an armed and armored troop carrier, or as a fire-support unit with its mass driver. Then there's the fact that the Empire could've constructed it to be modular. They could swap out the mass driver cannon for missile racks, torpedo tubes, a dedicated indirect-fire artillery cannon (I'm thinking something similar to the SPMAT), or an anti-aircraft turret. And there are still countless other potential configurations. Come to think of it, an ion cannon could be quite useful. I'm picturing a scaled down version of the gun on the back of the AT-IC.
Also, I think the AT-AT would make for an excellent combination of a command vehicle, a fire-support vehicle, and (with the addition of top-mounted laser cannon and concussion missile turrets) an anti-aircraft platform. But as a frontline combat vehicle, I think it’s somewhat ineffective compared to the AT-TEs versatility and reliability.
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Favorite vehicle of the Clone Wars by far!
LAAT for me, but this one is a close second for sure!
Personally, the Venator is the bomb (literally in a couple cases)
Nice to see you come back to form w/ this vid
Im a simple man, I see AT-TE and eckhartsladder together and I click
That outro with the dog is what got me to subscribe.
Eck: the AT-AT is high.
So thats why they fell over so easily.
Man, that final clip with the dog and the music never get old! what a champ!!!
Do you think you can make what if Count Dooku never turned to the dark side or what if Yoda train Anakin Skywalker
A very extremely great second video EckhartsLadder.
ATAT’s have powerful weapons but the ATTE’s are far cooler and more capable.
Actually, the mass driver of a AT-TE could be capable of destroying an AT-AT by aiming at its underbelly, the one on Rebels was very old so it makes sense that it couldn't penetrate the underbelly armor
@@alejandroelluxray5298 And because they couldn't get a clear shot at the underside.
@@anzaca1 yup
Alejandro Hernández I actually knew that the gun wasn’t at it full for the sound it make. Compared to the one in the clone wars and you will see the difference
@@ezequielrivera5480 yes, its pretty notorius how worn out that AT-TE was, I wonder how many technical difficulties Rex, Wolf and Gregor had while living in that walker
Looking forward to this week's Tapcaf Transmission! I'm actually reading the book along with you guys this time!
The atte is my favourite walker as well as what I would use in all of my armed conflicts
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Well, if the empire was designed to be effective rather then solely focusing on being as scary as possible, there wouldn’t be a rebellion, not the one we know and love anyways. Our rebels had no real business winning, the empire had the tools already built and laying around after the clone wars to bolster the newer vehicles made to fall in line with the Tarkin Doctrine. In space, imagine greater use of the lighter supportive Lancer, the Lancer being a highly effective anti star fighter ship, one that even puts the fear of god into famed revel pilot Wedge, and Carrack vessels in combination with the incredible power of ISDs and victorys which should of also been accompanied by Venators and their rather overkill star fighter carrying capabilities. The alliance had a very limited if not nonexistent ability to face brawl Star destroyers, now imagine filling in the anti star fighter gap the empire so desperately needed to close... Now on the ground, ATATs are perfect at front toward enemy style combat. Brute forcing their way through enemy lines. Now combine that with the ATTE, which’d do great to shield the slower ATATs from smaller, faster threats, and of course them being comparatively small yet still packing plenty of firepower in order to combat infantry and armored targets, they could effective fit into and fight within more obstructed environments, or dangerous and uneven terrain like on Hoth. Being able to be deployed closer and faster and in greater numbers. ATSTs I think would still make good light scout walkers and with the ATTE in the mix, would be more effective as they could better focus on light scout duties. On a side note, I think the Venator if they had kept it on common use within the navy, would be more effective on its carrier role if it sacrificed heavier firepower in favor of anti star fighter and/or lighter anti frigate sort of weapons along with better armor and or shielding. The Venator with its fair size and durability could better protect ISDs by being able to stick closer to them whichd come into play mostly when fighting other capital ships. Since it’s tricky when trying to deal with the issue of being able to utilize your smaller frigates in doing their intended duties while also trying to keep them safe, it’s hard to deal with fighters coming at you if you’re behind the ISD you’re supposed to protect, yet you’re behind the destroyer because you’re trying not to get blasted by opposing capital ships. Just a thought. Curious about anyone’s opinion on this.
You have essentially written out all the flaws of the Tarkin Doctrine and how it still could have been effective
Throw in the idea of the empire not neglecting the fighters themselves and you have fixed the Galactic Empire!
You have just pulled every thought out of my head when it comes to republic to empire transition, and why the poor bastards kept getting clapped by a bunch of children.
Eckharts: *Lists the advantages of a walker over repulsorlift.*
Me: *REEEEEs in tracks*
All so true and the ATTE makes much more sense as well
Wow 😂
H311 yeah, I mean they’re called tactical enforcers for a reason
In legends there was this one battle, where the Republic used experimental AT-ATs. They got stuck in the mud and they lost the battle.
#AskEck
*Attempt 748*
Remember to do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man faction versus video.
One of the problems with making a weapon that is supposed to inspire fear or appear monstrous for psych warfare is that eventually that fear will diminish. You are bound to lose one eventually and once the enemy sees that they can be killed, you’ve instead created a boogyman for the enemy to rally against.
The only thing between the driver, the gunner, and the enemy is a glass pane.
Allows for about 180 degree field of view
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View is irrelevant when your super heavy assault vehicle can be immobilized with a single shot.
Alackofcaring transparisteel, not glass
buffalo wt it’s confirmed
buffalo wt i think that’s just a specific power windu has, shatterpoint or something like that
Nobody:
Nobody at all:
The Empire weapons department: LOOOOOONG LEGSSS!
I've never bought into the 'separating themselves from the Republic' reason for why the Empire did a lot of what they did. After all, the major symbol of both to the general public. The troops themselves, hardly changed appearance at all. Noticeable, but all together minor changes in helmet and armor design is hardly going to make a difference. Now of course the real reason for these changes is of course that these weren't designed when the original trilogy was made, but in universe the only explanation is a lot of arrogance and idiocy on the part of the Empire. The demand for a display of power, at the expense of practicality and serviceability. Which only worked at all because they had most of the galaxy under their control. Vader's hate, and Palpatine's Dellusions of Grandeur seemed to have deprived the Empire of a lot of it's capable military strategists. Which of course, is why they lost.
Great video as always, keep it up
AT-TEs could really at least be a complement to the AT-ATs, then again, so could some air speeders
They should be both in service, but in different roles. An AT-AT is beat at being either a siege weapon or artillery, putting high energy rounds at long ranges. An AT-TE is more your main battle tank that would be doing clearing the way for your AT-ATs to come in and fortify a position.
damb, i hope the empire sees this and takes your advice
They could’ve made the joint for the middle leg an imperial symbol. Missed opportunity.
There was a great strip from the Imperial Heroes comic where one of Luke's best friends from Tatooine, Tank, is the central character. In this story, Tank as an imperial officer is attached to an Imperial Stormtrooper and Army Trooper company which has been dispatched to find out about the situation with an outpost. During the operation, the Imperial detachment has 2 Clone Wars Era Juggernauts and 1 AT-TE modified as a command platform to give the command some mobility and firepower.
until you realize that this thing is a pain in the ass to use in galactic assault Geonosis
Eck - “But that’s just my opinion.”
I would never question the tactical genius of Eckarts ladder.
There is a great scene in Rebels where an AT-TE knocks down an early AT-AT model.
No You Bulldog vs English Mastiff
My god... The AT-TE had plot armor... The AT-ATs should have blown up the drivers area.
Yeah lol but it did get destroyed and they had Rex and wolf two of the most skilled clones ever
Argentineball you could say that about any battle.
@@501ststormtrooper9 Also it they were commanded by agent Kallus one of the dumbiest imperial officers by far be for he joined the rebels. Kallus was be suited to be an agent of the empire work for the ISB and what not as he seem to be decent enough in working as agent in the empire. Not mech commander I wouldn't even trust him with a small squad of at pts let along a company of AT-ATs. in addition to plot armour. General Veers was the perfect man to Command AT-ATs as even as early as his Junior Officer days got know how the AT-AT works and how to best use it in combat. He even played a big role in its design development in his senior ranks as a career officer at least with later models we see in the Battle of Hoth.
But come on who was the moron that let Kallus command 3 of them let alone give him the car keys for to drive an AT-AT
*My #1 favorite Star Wars vehicle of all time. Thanks for this video, Eck. 💪💝*
At at are in back line and at te are infront them to protect the legs of at at
the AT-AT's legs are well armored and basically impervious to fire though.
Yes but snow speeders can confuse at at's legs but if are infront the at tes can destroy the snow speeders before they are to close to shoot their rop to confuse at at's legs
Ah, endless reflexions. Man of culture, electronic gems is really a gem channel
#AskEck
The Shadows (Babylon 5) vs the Dominion (Star Trek DS9).
Say the ATTE has crab droid style legs for better maneuverability and maybe even become faster as well, the heavy cannon can charge for even stronger blast, and it had a shield generator added to it, then we have a walker
That would be one hell of a walker
Chromiia YT thank you
Ahh yes, the AT-AT or as I like to call it the “Please obliterate me with heavy weapons because I’m a slow, massive target that can’t use cover.”
They cant be killed by any heavy ground weapons that the enemies of the empire have though. Even laser cannons are inneffective against them.
@@lenkagamine4145
After rewatching rebels and other .media outlets that's simply not true, a rocket launcher aimed at joint is apparently enought to cripple it
I was thinking that an artillery battery or two would be an AT-AT's worst nightmare.
@@CallanElliott
Not really just hit joints with rocket, high explosive rail gun
Thos e weapons can work to as well given its size.
@@thealexgundam5006 True, but still, why risk the tanks when you can have the artillery do it from a safe distance, and render the terrain unsuitable for the AT-ATs to pass in the future?
Good Vid Eck! Beerio cart the other night was hilarious as usual. See ya when ya when you, Charlie, and Corey do another show. Peace. Stay Healthy.
When you’re so early there’s no comments and 3 likes
Man that spider walker looks like a structural nightmare. Long thin legs with lots of moving parts, prime targets for heavy artillery and explosives
Even with the Tarkin doctrine, it's still really, really stupid that the Empire decided its main walker, the AT-AT, should have two defining features:
1. Guns that can only fire directly forwards in a small cone
2. The almost complete inability to turn at any reasonable speed
Pretty sure any ground soldier could be safe from one of these things by just running to the side continuously, since you can probably out-strafe its turning speed on foot.
Well, from a long way away you couldnt get a reasonable distance around them unless your running dozens of miles. But still pretty dumb regardless.
@@lenkagamine4145 Star Wars has the capacity to make some pretty scary tanks. Imagine a Star Wars version of the M1A2 Abrams, that'd make use of repulsorlift engines, deflector shields and a laser cannon. You could construct dozens of them for the same price as an AT-AT. In a battle you'd lose some during the initial "charge", but once the tanks outflanked the AT-AT they'd be perfectly safe kiting around the beast and targeting joints/mechanical weaknesses with their cannons.
@@RJALEXANDER777 repulsorlifts and lasercanons are terrible
@@prvt.harumi6821 repulsorlift because they're often made on the cheap. Speeders are repulsorlift after all. And only difference between a laser cannon and turbo laser is essentially calibre. Still an AT-TE style mass driver would be a good alternative.
@@RJALEXANDER777 where do you plan on storing all that energy. Repolur lifts are terrible bcs you burn fuel just to stay/hover at the same place
You should make a hour long episode explaining the entire universe of Star Wars from the beginning of the universe to the most recent
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
Thats why i love SW: Empire at War mods. Most of these questions can be at least somewhat tested.
It would've been so much more powerful if it had armor for the gunman on top though
I just love the look of everything in the Old Republic, the ships, the walkers, the guns, everything has so much variety...
Now we only have letters for ships and a bunch of balls that shoot lasers
Everyone: *"AT-TE are the best!"*
-Gets destroyed by a single missile
-Thin armour,great against laser, useless against missiles
-Cockpit sealed with just glass.... Hell, even dwarf spider droids can destroy this huge fat target
-Main gunner exposed to the elements and snipers
-almost no armor on the underbelly
-a *LOT* of weakspots
-slow yet not too slow tbh
-big fat target for tanks,artillery and bombers
-have 6 legs but can no longer move when 1 is taken out
-did I mentioned the glass cockpit? Yes! But still... *GLASS*
its transparisteel but i understand the cockpit truly is shit
AT-AP: exists
EckhartsLadder: wHeRe Is ThE hILl
My favorite mecha from the anime Star Wars: the Clone Wars: Anakin’s Counter Attack.
I think the venator could have been terrifying with tie fighters. Imagine if one showed up in system and unloaded 500 TIE's in one go, terrifying
Hell V wings and ARC-170s would be scarier tbh. Both have deflector shields.
@@Sorry_2026 yes but if we're talking about the empire here they are not using V wings and ARC-170's. But imagine if your on a planet and the skies turn black from TIE Bombers
@@MultiYogibear Oh that would be such a "fuck you". Just hundreds of them per Venator.
What about a Venator armed with X-wings, a complement of droid tri-fighters, Y-wings and A-wings. All missiles would have buzz droid variants too.
Im happy you made a vid on this its my favorite star wars vehicle.
Ghost in The Shell is the only franchise I've seen with legit practical walkers, the Tachikomas have wheels embedded in the legs. They use the wheels for fast travel, legs for super tough terrain.
I think the Covenant scarab is also practical. In general I think crab-like or spider-like walkers make sense, they have wider strides which would help with rougher terrain. I mean I guess the whole "pretty much open and vulnerable to boarding" thing is dumb with teh scarab, but hte overall design is fine.
Don't forget about cable launchers fo spider-like vertical traverse!
@@lenkagamine4145 I believe in cannon the Scarabs you fight are primarily used for mining, so the lack of defenses is somewhat forgivable.
The manufacturer of the AT-TE, Kuat Drive Yard, had commissioned the weapon via subcontract with Kamino specialized for clones. Not sure why they didn't produce more, but they were used in the Galactic Civil War in the Outer Rim.
I tried at one point to figure out exactly how tough AT-AT armor is. There are diagrams from which one can take reasonable guesses of just how thick the armor is, which mainly just left the question of how tough durasteel is in RHA equivalency (RHA: Rolled Homogenous Armor, was the standard type of steel used for tank armor before the invention of composite armor. The strength of modern tank armors are still often given in RHA equivalency). The closest I could find for the strength of durasteel was this line from Wookieepedia "More resistant than standard steel but weaker than the common alloys of titanium". So I found an article comparing the relative strengths of titanium and RHA (I am assuming that "standard steel" is RHA, really there is no such thing as "standard steel". Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon, and you can get very different steels with very different properties by changing the amount and distribution of the carbon added to the iron (some steels are actually stronger than titanium)). It gave the mass of a cubic centimeter of titanium at 4.45 grams and a cubic centimeter of RHA at 7.85 grams (so titanium is about 43% lighter per unit of volume than RHA), and the hardness of titanium at 302-364HB and the hardness of RHA 241-331 HB (so titanium seems to be somewhere from 50% stronger to 10% weaker than RHA per unit of volume). So I figured that titanium is probably about 2.2 times stronger per unit of mass than RHA, and if durasteel is a bit weaker than titanium I'll just call it at twice as strong as RHA (I am being generous with the strength of durasteel by assuming that it has the same density as RHA but is "weaker than common alloys of titanium" per unit of mass, rather than per unit of volume). So now all I need to do is figure out the thickness of AT-AT armor, double it, and I'll have the strength of AT-AT armor in RHA equivalency. I did find an image cross section of an AT-AT, from which it might be possible to get an exact thickness (I haven't done any math on it yet (there are humans in the picture, so all it would take would be to take the average height of a human and divide it by the number of times the shown thicknesses will fit into one of the shown humans) but just eyeballing it I seriously doubt an AT-AT could survive an APFSDS round fired from a modern tank (considering such rounds generally have 400-700mm of penetration I would say they will probably slice right through the AT-AT from end to end like it was butter. Although some areas, such as the sloped section just above the main viewport, might just be thick enough to withstand some modern tank rounds).
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Durasteel
cdn.ymaws.com/titanium.org/resource/resmgr/2010_2014_papers/GOOCHWilliam_2011.pdf
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I come for the knowledge/lore and end up staying to listen to the intro/outro
AT-AT: You think your better than me!!?
AT-TE: Perhaps.
Finally a video about an idea I've had for a looooong time
This guy deserves 1 million subs let’s get him there
Just a little request for you eckhartsladder can we do Darth Revan vs Master Chief
Even though I think it's a bit Overkill I'm taking my chances
Hi I’ve been waiting for this video for ever thx for making it😀
Dammit Eck! You put thoughts into my head again for 'Imperialised refits' of MORE Clone-wars vehicles!
AT/IE: 'All Terrain Imperial Enforcer' - Remove the dorsal mass driver, replace two of the forward guns with heavier versions, add docking attachments to the top so it can be carried under a Gazonti. BAM!
AT/TC: 'All Terrain Tactical Command' - Remove Dorsal and rear weapons, remove transport capacity, add advanced sensor and communication suite. BAM! Ground-based AWAKS/command vehicle.
AT/ARL: 'All Terrain Artillery Rocket Launcher' - Remove dorsal and rear weapons, completely replace rear pod with a 'pop-up' MRLS type launcher. BAM! light artillery on a armoured platform.
I'm gonna have to pursue some of these ideas to be ground forces for my IDSEF concept... ^^;
~JD
Awesome video man! I really agree that they empire should at least have kept the AT-TEs in their arsenal, but you know how they are with all their Tarkin Doctrine nonsense