Will be streaming some Clone Wars space battle gameplay for Fall of the Republic very soon (about an hour?): ruclips.net/user/eckstoo Stop by and say hi!
What i more like about in star wars legends is that the jedi became more humane and the stormtroopers once bad guys became the heroes fighting along side the imperial knights and jedi for the Galactic Triumvirate against the sith.
@@imperialspecialforce5769 It could even have happened with infighting between the red Sith troopers and the standard white First Order troopers in TRoS. That would make for a more believable victory for the Resistance
I always thought the idea that the Empire was nearly completely destroyed at the Battle of Endor and then quickly replaced by the First Order was pretty uninteresting. Canon never really explores the Galactic Republic after Endor save for a little in the Mandalorian. The idea that the Empire fragments but stays somewhat intact is much more interesting to me, and I think it's interaction and conflict with the new Galactic Republic would've made a much better backdrop for the sequel trilogy.
But it wasn't; the First Order only appeared 20 years later. Besides, The Mandalorian shows pretty well what happened to the part of the Empire that wasn't included in the First Order.
They weren't so much replaced as they were the reorganisation of the Empire. Basically, after Endor, a lot of the Imperials who remained fled into the Unknown Regions (and I presume a lot of the galaxy was inspired to rise up and overthrow the Empire on individual systems when they learned of the Death Star II destruction and Palpatine's "death") and spent a few decades reforming and reorganising into the First Order. It's also worth noting that the New Republic knew exactly what they were up to but the First Order was buying off New Republic senators to bog down the Senate in legal proceedings and useless embargoes against the First Order that the First Order just totally ignored, meaning the Empire had a few decades to reorganise and rebuild with virtually no major resistance against them. The only major opposition to the First Order was the Resistance, which was formed basically on the back of Leia's reputation alone. The New Republic only gave enough help to the Resistance to be able to plausibly deny being involved with the group in any way. Officially the Resistance was considered a rogue group, giving the First Order no legal precedent for war. In a way, it's comparable to the current situation in the Middle East, where global superpowers are waging a quiet proxy war by funding various groups that act in their best interests but can say they aren't themselves fighting. So yeah, the New Republic basically crossing their fingers and praying the First Order don't do anything too overt like attack them and the First Order gearing up to do EXACTLY THAT is the situation in the galaxy at the beginning of the Force Awakens.
Well, you can either read the book lost stars, watch a couple of videos on the storyline of battlefront two or anything like that to get the canon story of what happened to the empire immediately after Endor. And in both those instances, the battle of jaku as well.
I like how despite that stormtroopers and their variants are “not as common as people think” we rarely see army and navy troopers and so far solo’s movie was the only time I can recall large numbers of army “mud” troopers
I suppose that’s because in Star Wars we mostly follow stories of largely influential moments and battles of the galaxy, so the empire would probably throw their best soldiers into those battles, but it still would be cool to see those ‘lesser’ types of troops more rather than just stormtroopers
hey Eck, my friend just brought up an interesting topic, how are Star Wars governments able to build such massive ships? For example, Snoke's ship, First Order Dreadnoughts, and Star Destroyers. Where does all the material come from? How do they go about building them? (ship yards? slaves? etc?). Thought this would be an interesting video concept. Keep up the great work!
@@naruhinafan94 we know the Empire stripped planets for materials, and I'd assume the First Order is no different, but for a fleet of Star Destroyers, that's a massive amount of material and work
remember the rise of skywalker kids books saying the sith troopers were kylo rens bodyguard.... wish the sith guards had some more context, same with the knights of ren... my friend who is not a hardcore fan didnt get the knights.
@E115 this trilogy could have been decent....but hey...is way cooler bring everthing that was death and not add anakin,maybe sense or at least decent villians...i mean...i woulf love a live action show about Rose tycoon
2015, Me: *Sees trailer for the Force Awakens* “awesome! it would be so cool if the Imperial Remnants and the First Order existed, maybe the previous books and sequels will feed into the new stuff Disney wants to add! And all the stuff can coexist!” Disney: *Laughs in Rich Corporate Emperor* “No.”
As far as I can tell, the only reason Stormtroopers became worse over time is because their equipment had to be pumped out fast, and cheap. That's why you can hear a rattling sound with the Scout Pistol in The Mandalorian
@Funny Valentine I know. I'm one of those people who believe he's still a Mandalorian. I have one friend who says otherwise solely because Disney says so.
@Funny Valentine Disney is honestly just ruining everything for no reason. They've ruined Star Wars, and arguably almost ruined Marvel with Captain Marvel. Funny how a company who claims to be so woke likely supports sweat shops due to how much they cater to China.
And Legends has some incredibly ridiculous shit. Taking the entirety of Legends leaves us with so much low-tier garbage they just churned out to make money.
Has anybody noticed the scene where the final order destroyer comes out of hyperspace to destroy the world is almost exactly the same at the scene in rouge one where Vader’s star destroyer exits hyperspace and wrecks everything? Almost as if it was reused and just fixed up?
#AskEck *Faction Versus Battle* *Attempt 700* Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy. We are in the 700s since I started counting from 300 almost 2 years ago now boys. Still going strong.
@@bauermuhle3169 We don't know anything about them though. Their feats, technological advancements, ships weapons destructive output and armor durability, military power and numbers, FTL travel time, anything really.
@Flats the Flounder, professional ass pounder You've actually just gotten mad at a stranger on the internet over a dumb throwaway joke that doesn't affect or insult you. That's big brain energy right there.
Original Expanded Universe: So many different & interesting Stormtroopers, plus the Empire eventually makes peace with the New Republic & even recruits non-humans into their forces. Disney Expanded Universe: Yeah, they changed the armor design & Palpatine had secret Sith Stormtroopers on the side.
I love the First Order storm troopers. That they were indoctrinated children, abducted from their homes and brainwashed into a faceless drone just gives them a depth the original stormtroopers never really had. Even the little details go a long way.
Was browsing my recommended and this came up, I had forgotten that I had subscribed to you, and after watching this I remember why. Keep up the amazing work man! I’m really happy that I found you again.
Imagine the Stormtroopers with highly eficient training and gear. And using light exoskeletons and jump packs (not confuse with jet packs). I imagine that no rebel scum would not decide to fight a OP trooper
Jesus Christ have you seen the spec force and spec ops rebels? As well as Kota’s militia? Bro you gotta respect the Rebellion more in terms of military power, not all of the rebellion is plot armor
@@illusive_Man22 What else did they need? They have the hand to hand skills to hang with jedi, fanatically devoted, and in peak physical condition. Each of them had advanced training to take up more specialized roles as well. It's like the best combination of Clone trooper and Stormtrooper.
CMDR_Kai Gaming no, they just fail at literally everything they do. Also are you being serious? I hope you’re so I can warn you to not dig into them they lead into a deep dark hole full of poo
I didn't think there were any Imperial splinter groups in canon. I thought Operation Cinder happened, Jakku happnened, and then the Empire gave up and died. Then somehow a tiny faction from the unknown regions managed to defeat the entire New Republic... except... not... The opening crawl of The Last Jedi said the New Republic surrendered. This was like five minutes after Starkiller Base exploded so... And then a ton of ships showed up to Exegal in Rise of Skywalker... Man f*ck canon! The three movies have more plotholes and inconsistencies than all of Legends!
There canonically were slinter groups most of them either got wiped out or surrendered The one that survived bided it’s time and became the first order The idea worked better in legends but it did exist in canon too
I really like the Death Troopers they're probably my favorite variant. The Sith Troopers were cool but should have been used more in TROS. Thanks for the video.
Yeah I mean the with eternal did have troop transports each containing 20 troopers “You can take some of my troops with you. As a preview of what our alliance will bring. They’ll prove themselves nicely”
Clones WERE trained by Mandalorians in Canon as well! Its tossed in as a line in Rebels when the Ghost crew visits Concord Dawn. "They are known for their elite warriors. They were brought in to train clones during the war" -Rex Makes my heart tingle a bit
I have a theory that the Sith troopers are clones. It makes a lot of sense in my opinion, they are all very young, and Palpatine is known for creating the clone army in the first place. Not to mention it’s clear he has cloning technology, as we see with Snoke.
That'd b Kool,they need to make a live action movie about the clone troopers from their point of view and as main characters as well as a live action movie about the sith from their point of view n as the main characters,that'd be awesome fr
Personally, and what I suggest to do is, I just cherry pick what makes good canon. Finn's story, a resistance against Imperial remnants, and the possibility of an Imperial Remnant made of authoritarian military officers and their abducted orphan Stormtroopers makes for good fiction. I just don't think it deserves to overwrite the new jedi order, new republic being half competent, the extended Skywalker family tree stories, and the Yuzhan Vong invasion.
The more star wars content I watch the more I learn that I truly don't understand the lore of star wars, it's like I'm discovering new topics that I didn't even know I knew so little about
Halo theory idea What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it goes not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck
Cheeky Limerick Cheeky Limerick Spartans were only effective on the ground, and the only way they could damage a Covenant ship was with a bomb from the inside, which usually resulted in the Spartan's death. However, the Covenant almost always had arial superiority out of sheer fleet power, not tactical prowess except for in the case of Thel Vadaam. The Infinity feel would offset that massively. Human naval tactics outclassed those of the Covenant. With a superior fleet and the tactics to match, the Covanent wouldn't even have gotten past Reach, and possibly could've been pushed back past Harvest, as the UNSC was already mobilized, and the building of a new Infinity class fleet would've been well possible. The UNSC would win. The Spartans may have been nigh unbeatable ground troopers, but that never mattered in the face of Covenant naval might and their ability to glass planets regardless of ground resistance. A contemporary UNSC fleet would reverse that, making Space battles almost always end in a UNSC victory. UNSC troops were also already a fair challenge to Covenant ground forces without the Spartans. Although they wouldn't win as often on the ground, that wouldn't matter when the carrier or corvette leading the assault is destroyed, leaving Covenant ground forces alone on a Human planet without arial support. With the proper tactics, one frigate, especially an Autumn class one, could challenge a battlecruiser any day. The Infinity would have no issues dealing with Covenant super-ships like Assault Carriers and Super-carriers, as the Infinity can be see smashing through one with no damage sustained. Though the Infinity is but one ship, it is obscenely powerful. Though unable to be replicated completely from the unique nature of it's engines, slower versions could still exist, though a little slower than the original, which wouldn't even matter with its might.
Adam and Eve Jango Fett, though an extremely skilled and aggressive warrior, couldn't hope to challenge the strength of a Spartan, and that's talking about the original, not the clones, which are slightly weaker. Spartans have superior mentality, as well as being better in every way to normal humans. One could argue that clones aren't normal humans, and you'd be correct, but the Spartans are even farther, and Mandalorians were always just a subrace of humans. A clone still operates like a normal soldier, though better and more dogmatic. They have social lives, sentiment, and fleshed out emotion. Spartans, fully grown ones, never had those distractions. Spartans were unique, and but one could likely take on even the likes of Grievous. A better analogy would be the Clone Commandos, but even they wouldn't be able to stand up to a Spartan, as they still share the emotional distractions of other clones. Clones aren't only soldiers. They have a chance to experience a bond besides soldier camaraderie, and have been known to do things well outside of their duties for little more than entertainment, not for the Republic. You simply can't break a Spartan's morality. They have and always will fight to the death. They may know defeat, but they have never flinched from it. They cannot be broken because they already are broken. Any mental weakness has be chipped away. They have no fear, remorse, or hesitation. They react to all situations accordingly and instantaneously. Clones, on the other hand, are able to break, just like normal humans. The feel fear, they can hesitate, they can make stupid decisions, and they flinch in the face of loss. All flaws which the Spartans don't have. Spartans are only Spartans. They are soldiers, nothing else. Clones are people. Soldiers may be human, but Spartans are made to be more soldier than human.
TheWingland With Master Chief the Halo Array would’ve been activated, with humanity losing. Sure the Covenant would be wiped out too, but they would have technically won because they accomplished their goals.
@@Prince_Luci By "canon" he means Disney canon, whereas "legends" refers to old EU canon. In both cases the films are obviously canon, but Disney canon disagrees with legends canon over other media.
Great video as always. You mention Thrawn being probably as close to the rightful heir to the empire... Yet another reason we need a Thrawn series. It would make a great project following up The Mandolorian. I would like to see Thrawns imperial legion head out towards Chiss space. Something like him over throwing the Chiss government. I remember hearing they had a civil war or close to it just before the death of Palpatine. Thrawn rushes in to establish his order.
100% love the Post-RotJ timeline from Legends. Just makes more sense and is more interesting to me at least. I prefer the corps to be a mix of natural born recruits and clones. Wish we got to see more from the Imperial Army in Legends though, that was my favorite part of Solo.
Given what we learned about Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker, do you think that Palpatine only viewed the Empire as means to an end to eventually achieve a form of total galactic dominance like Joruus C'baoth was seeking? Was the Empire only a stepping stone to the Final Order and then the greater Imperial military and bureaucracy would have been eliminated once it served it purpose?
Man, I love your channel and the videos! Much like many on here, I don't care for the canon stuff(and honestly don't consider it canon) but all the Legends info you go over is awesome.
Alien stormtroopers sounds like a very cool idea, i’d love to see how all of the armor looked. Also as stormtroopers are apparently rare, i Wonder if the other trooper types were also rare. Like patrol troopers, were they rare? I can imagine them not being as rare, because they were basicly cops.
I just recently was thinking about how much I liked the clones but I remember that things arent always the same. So like I said before whoever can play the role as an "empire" or a "republic" or whatever you want to call them. They have my vote.
Hope you talk about old republic troopers eventually. They're my favourite type of soldier in star wars because they aren't just jedi/sith fodder. They could actually put up a fight against them since they fought force users so much.
I like that to because there were quite a lot of sith around so to increase survivability, they needed the training. With the sith gone (Except for 2), intergalactic conflict being at a minimum, and the jedi in control/being peace keepers, combat against force sensitives was less needed.
#AskEck Can you do videos on the Stellaris factions like the endgame crisis events the Contingency, Unbidden, and Prethoyren Scourge and do analysis video about how strong they would be in a Sci Fi lore setting?
@@verixcvoin1432 If the Crisis Factions were placed in another sci fi setting how powerful would they be against factions like the Forerruners, Imperium Of Man, the New Republic, Federation, and others?
@Никола Майкич is that supposed to be an insult? I do have a boyfriend been together 8 years BTWZ... not that it's any of your business. I just also happen to be part of a trivia channel on youtube so spending hours researching a topic is pretty par for the course when you're a content creator. Or do you just think all girls who are into Star Wars Lore are just sad lonely women? Not that you should care but you look at my profile pic you can clearly see that i'm a solid 8...so am i not aloud to be smart and pretty and confident or do i need a man to teach me everything.
Excuse me i don't know what a gypsy is supposed to mean what is this a Stevie Nix song...but I'm American so where my ancestors were from doesn't matter. If you must know i'm mostly European White and also part Cuban if that makes my opinion or point of view mean more or less to you because apparently race matters now on a star wars lore video. My boyfriend is also European White not That matters. Again im just a girl who likes Star Wars and makes trivia question doesn't make me a gypsy who needs a boyfriend.
@Никола Майкич okay bro you're clearly a bigot peice of shit so im gonna report you for harassment. Your calling me racial slurs and saying all Americans should be white. The Russian school system has truly failed you bro.
What I liked about the o,d republic era was that the sith empire was not inherently evil, it had evil people in it of course but like in the story game you can see truly good people who fought for the empire, I preferred the areas of grey that that era was
Old republic troopers those guys can combat Sith. Which back then sith were much stronger than they are now not all but most. Clones and stormtroopers would have to team up to take down a few of these guys.
Legacy era- I did like that we saw a higher number of alien Storm Troopers, with Marasiah Fel taking command of a platoon of Tradoshan stormies in Legacy 2. While Pallaeon may have introduced aliens, their usage had clearly increased singificantly, with stronger aliens being used to form elite units. Plus there's a good number of stormie PoV stuff in Legacy 1 with Joker squad where we get to see their internal culture, how they've built the idea of 'the honor of the armor' and the POV character is a second gen stormie- a lot different than the indoctrinated conscripts of the earlier empire. Though the Sith were probably rolling that back and doing more heavy recruiting.
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
I agree with that. A half-dead Emperor, in the middle of Bumfuck, Nowhere, stealing/recruiting young ones for a Theocracy? Ain’t nobody got time for that!
@@javierlopez9789 wheres the proof. All I've seen is emperor is a master cloner has the obsession and resources to clone himself an army that's loyal to the sith, so him. He did it for the clone wars as an experiment, it worked now he can do it here it just falls in line with his history and obsessions
I know this is a joke but Arnold is just a body builder, if we wanted good clones we would need someone like Jango Fett, some combat veteran with good genetics.
I would have preferred to see the Empire remnant and their cooperation with the Republic in the new Trilogy, and a conflict between a much different enemy and this alliance.
The BSI/ASI format actually makes sense from an in-universe POV. The Empire reformed the calendar of the Galactic Republic into the Imperial Calendar which followed BFE (Before Formation of the Empire) and AFE (After the Formation of the Empire). To the Rebels/New Republic though it can be followed as BBY (Before Battle of Yavin) and ABY(After Battle of Yavin). so we know that the Starkiller base incident was in 34 ABY. If we follow that line and if I didn’t make a mistake, the starkiller incident format would be around 53 AFE in the Imperial calendar. it’s not resetting the time, it’s just another calendar for in-universe since the calendar has reset before. Edit: here is a screenshot from Matt Martin stating that the visual guide is only going to use the dates relevant to the era of that guide. So BBY/ABY isn’t going anywhere m.imgur.com/YxMO4sq?
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Will be streaming some Clone Wars space battle gameplay for Fall of the Republic very soon (about an hour?): ruclips.net/user/eckstoo
Stop by and say hi!
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Grand Admiral Thrawn versus Marshall Admiral Yamamoto Isoroku of the Japanese Navy.
EckhartsLadder ill be there
#AskEck
*Attempt 701*
Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy please.
@@betsydierlam561 I dont doubt it!!
Eck gonna be lookin fresh in front of a new droid army
What i more like about in star wars legends is that the jedi became more humane and the stormtroopers once bad guys became the heroes fighting along side the imperial knights and jedi for the Galactic Triumvirate against the sith.
Disney had a perfect opportunity to have a stormtrooper uprising, with Finn leading it. But no, it was wasted.
@@imperialspecialforce5769 Star Wars is a tale of missed opportunities my friend.
the fel empire is interesting stories anyways.
@@Prince-to5cf *Disney Star Wars
@@imperialspecialforce5769 It could even have happened with infighting between the red Sith troopers and the standard white First Order troopers in TRoS. That would make for a more believable victory for the Resistance
“Genetic sock” that just sounds nasty lol.
Lol
OmniPoticus 👀
Dalton Patterson ha, I needed that
nut sock
when mom finds the genetic sock
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I'm not the only one hearing eck's mic just shit itself right?
Nah, he just was in dark trooper mode
I believe that was called a "stroke"
but what do I know
I think that was intentional
Nah. He is attempting voice augmentation to be more like dark vader.
I think he just got to close to the mic. Lmao
I always thought the idea that the Empire was nearly completely destroyed at the Battle of Endor and then quickly replaced by the First Order was pretty uninteresting. Canon never really explores the Galactic Republic after Endor save for a little in the Mandalorian.
The idea that the Empire fragments but stays somewhat intact is much more interesting to me, and I think it's interaction and conflict with the new Galactic Republic would've made a much better backdrop for the sequel trilogy.
But it wasn't; the First Order only appeared 20 years later. Besides, The Mandalorian shows pretty well what happened to the part of the Empire that wasn't included in the First Order.
They weren't so much replaced as they were the reorganisation of the Empire. Basically, after Endor, a lot of the Imperials who remained fled into the Unknown Regions (and I presume a lot of the galaxy was inspired to rise up and overthrow the Empire on individual systems when they learned of the Death Star II destruction and Palpatine's "death") and spent a few decades reforming and reorganising into the First Order.
It's also worth noting that the New Republic knew exactly what they were up to but the First Order was buying off New Republic senators to bog down the Senate in legal proceedings and useless embargoes against the First Order that the First Order just totally ignored, meaning the Empire had a few decades to reorganise and rebuild with virtually no major resistance against them. The only major opposition to the First Order was the Resistance, which was formed basically on the back of Leia's reputation alone. The New Republic only gave enough help to the Resistance to be able to plausibly deny being involved with the group in any way. Officially the Resistance was considered a rogue group, giving the First Order no legal precedent for war. In a way, it's comparable to the current situation in the Middle East, where global superpowers are waging a quiet proxy war by funding various groups that act in their best interests but can say they aren't themselves fighting.
So yeah, the New Republic basically crossing their fingers and praying the First Order don't do anything too overt like attack them and the First Order gearing up to do EXACTLY THAT is the situation in the galaxy at the beginning of the Force Awakens.
@@NotQuiteEnglish01 if Disney allowed the rest of the New Republic to participate in the war it would've provided a much more interesting story
I think you would like the thrawn books. Also can you subscribe to me Beckham’s cool builds
Well, you can either read the book lost stars, watch a couple of videos on the storyline of battlefront two or anything like that to get the canon story of what happened to the empire immediately after Endor. And in both those instances, the battle of jaku as well.
Should have named the vid: history of “Bucket Heads”
racist! would you like to be called meat bag, or bucket of bolts?!?!?!!!!!???1111111
We needed that
History of the evolution to bad aiming
@@thatamericanloser2833 Comment - I am most excited to engaged in some unadulterated violence, Master.
Query - Which meat bag do I need to eradicate?
I mean clones were better than the human storm troopers
As a spartan this is my favorite channel
Nice picture 👍👍
Hi
Hello there trooper
We need an anthem
As a channel you are my favourite clone commando
Why is the Clone Wars called the “Clone Wars” and not the Droid Wars?
Because the victors get to name the wars.
In the short story “weapon of the Jedi” Luke runs into someone that calls it the droid wars.
My question is what is it called “Clone Wars” and not the “Clone War”?
Young Money probably cause clone wars sounds cooler then clone war
A better question is why is it called “the clone warS” when it was only one war?
I like how despite that stormtroopers and their variants are “not as common as people think” we rarely see army and navy troopers and so far solo’s movie was the only time I can recall large numbers of army “mud” troopers
I suppose that’s because in Star Wars we mostly follow stories of largely influential moments and battles of the galaxy, so the empire would probably throw their best soldiers into those battles, but it still would be cool to see those ‘lesser’ types of troops more rather than just stormtroopers
hey Eck, my friend just brought up an interesting topic, how are Star Wars governments able to build such massive ships? For example, Snoke's ship, First Order Dreadnoughts, and Star Destroyers. Where does all the material come from? How do they go about building them? (ship yards? slaves? etc?). Thought this would be an interesting video concept. Keep up the great work!
I’d imagine access to materials from asteroids, comets, etc. helps the situation but it’s Star Wars so yeah
@@naruhinafan94 we know the Empire stripped planets for materials, and I'd assume the First Order is no different, but for a fleet of Star Destroyers, that's a massive amount of material and work
That's the only government for which you would have such questions
Slave labour was used regularly in order to build these ships as cheaply as possible.
It’s a good question. Vader’s super star destroyer was bigger than the island of Manhattan.
I just feel it's funny that they're so on the nose with Sith Troopers in the battlefront game. Their grenades are called "Oppression Grenades."
My personal theory is that the devs meant to write "suppression grenade" but forgot what word they were originally going for
“Oppression grenades” is a pretty sick name though
Yeah Disney really has to hold our hand with the writing sometimes lolol
so is the implication due to the sith troopers ages is that once Palpatine arrived on exogol basically he had a big sith cult orgy take place.
I wonder if siths are into BDSM
RFN Kami Yes. That’s not even a joke, the answer is yes.
@@renatonovis They're really into BDSM. Trust me.
@@renatonovis hahahahahahahaha... yeah
@@renatonovis have you ever seen asajj ventress?
Clone troopers are the best troopers... Unless they're trying to kill you😐
Which they probably will...
Old republic troopers are better in some aspects
@@rickf.4656 do u not see that I'm trying to make dark Comey bruh
@@sagetheassassin3192 that was a poor joke then
Mr Burger Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend. So is comedy
@@rickf.4656 My joke was 👌, you just don't HAvE EnOUgh SpICe iN YoUr LiFE.
They are all “bucketheads”.
Liam Walsh, amen.
Amen sir
I CANT SEE
Liam Walsh with the racial dlur from left field😂
At least clones can actually aim.
That 140 After the Battle of Yavin trooper looks amazing
And he didn't say a single word about that era...
I'm pretty sure that's concept art for the first order troopers
The Legacy Stormtroopers looked similar to the Palpatine era stormtroopers. There’s differences in armor, but it’s subtle compared to the First Order.
Yeah, wonder how good their aim is.
First Order Stormtroopers look like they're pulling a cat smile while wearing sunglasses.
Now you can't unsee it, you're welcome.
I saw that first time I saw the FO Stormtroopers XD
I always thought about that😂
Now you made the sequels worse for me
I just love how shiny their armour is
I dont get it. Wtf is a cat smile?
Respect for our boys in white
And red, black, partially blue, orange, etc
Sir this is a documentary about slavery
Respect whites
@Big Jimmy you have a problem with respecting whites?
In buckets
remember the rise of skywalker kids books saying the sith troopers were kylo rens bodyguard.... wish the sith guards had some more context, same with the knights of ren... my friend who is not a hardcore fan didnt get the knights.
Even hardcore fans didn't get them.
The Knights are being explored more with The Rise of Kylo Ren comic series.
@E115 this trilogy could have been decent....but hey...is way cooler bring everthing that was death and not add anakin,maybe sense or at least decent villians...i mean...i woulf love a live action show about Rose tycoon
@@Burning-Twilight Too little too late.
@@Prince-to5cf The comic right now is still a fun read.
Interesting with sith troopers looking like a first order stormtrooper with a T like visor or a phase two clone
Sith troopers look like that Adidas storm trooper.
Aiden Brantley Shit Troopers*
Actually, the sith trooper looked as if it was going back to its clone wars design with the T in the middle, not a bad design
I’m better
They are the walmart disocount version of the old republic sith trooper
EckhartsLadder: uploads 41 secs ago
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2015, Me: *Sees trailer for the Force Awakens* “awesome! it would be so cool if the Imperial Remnants and the First Order existed, maybe the previous books and sequels will feed into the new stuff Disney wants to add! And all the stuff can coexist!”
Disney: *Laughs in Rich Corporate Emperor* “No.”
Bucket Head I love how you're implying Disney is being greedy by not copying Legends and instead using its own ideas.
@stealthballer what you mean?
Most of the post-ROTJ EU blew anyway
When I saw/heard TFA was being released, I thought "well there goes another childhood franchise that I loved but will be ruined by pointless reboots."
The first order started out as imperial remnants
Last time I was this early the resistance still had a few new era vessels
None of them can shoot straight regardless of colour type.
That’s canon now thanks to The Mandalorian.
ZealousProp In the literal first scene it happens
As far as I can tell, the only reason Stormtroopers became worse over time is because their equipment had to be pumped out fast, and cheap.
That's why you can hear a rattling sound with the Scout Pistol in The Mandalorian
You can say a lot of shit (rightfully) about the new Disney Star Wars conten but Mando is awesome
I hated that.
2:36
Jango is and will ever be a Mandalorian!
in his dreams maybe
@@Audifaram In the good canon
So dumb how George and Disney suddenly decided Jango and Boba were not Mandalorians.
@Funny Valentine I know. I'm one of those people who believe he's still a Mandalorian. I have one friend who says otherwise solely because Disney says so.
@Funny Valentine Disney is honestly just ruining everything for no reason. They've ruined Star Wars, and arguably almost ruined Marvel with Captain Marvel.
Funny how a company who claims to be so woke likely supports sweat shops due to how much they cater to China.
Legends are far superior than canon right now
But of course.
Not that I’m too keen on canon but legacy had significantly more time to build lore and context when compared to the new canon
And Legends has some incredibly ridiculous shit. Taking the entirety of Legends leaves us with so much low-tier garbage they just churned out to make money.
IMO, Legends IS the cannon. Not all this Disney Bullshit they're churning out to make money.
@ShardRadio IMO, Still better than this new shit Disney keeps churning out.
Has anybody noticed the scene where the final order destroyer comes out of hyperspace to destroy the world is almost exactly the same at the scene in rouge one where Vader’s star destroyer exits hyperspace and wrecks everything? Almost as if it was reused and just fixed up?
chris purrone details like this is why I wish I was willing to pay for Disney plus
Well yes it's a xyston class star destroyer which is basically an Imperial 1 class Star destroyer.
I mean, they steal fanart for their comics, so... I wouldn't be surprised if they're that lazy.
yeah disney is a money-hungry company made by a crazy madman. there is nothing "good" about this evil corporation. just as evil as the galactic empire
Jimmy Johnson the IV ...what’d walt do?
Never change Home Resonance, it's the best and now makes me think of star wars and you
For the people that don’t know it’s the song at the beginning of the video
You’re killing it !
#AskEck
*Faction Versus Battle*
*Attempt 700*
Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy.
We are in the 700s since I started counting from 300 almost 2 years ago now boys. Still going strong.
Patience: 100
@@simonyesh
Indeed.
Pre heresy imperium would still get shit on. DAOT humans would be a much more fair fight
@@bauermuhle3169
We don't know anything about them though. Their feats, technological advancements, ships weapons destructive output and armor durability, military power and numbers, FTL travel time, anything really.
Maybe you get it at attempt 40k
Sith Troopers: *Have "Sith" in the name*
Also Sith Troopers: *Don't do any thing Force related*
they're literally Deathtroopers but if someone to ate Taco Bell with ghost peppers took a shit on them
sith troopers are VERY good for 1 thing: bf2
@@santiagoorgeira9142 true
You stupid or?
@Flats the Flounder, professional ass pounder You've actually just gotten mad at a stranger on the internet over a dumb throwaway joke that doesn't affect or insult you.
That's big brain energy right there.
Eckharts: now let's take a look at canon....
Me: smash like button and close tab
honestly gets harder and harder for me to determine what video is your best after new posts, i think one's incredible and then boom, even better
Hey Ech! Have a good day! Thanks for all the vids!
Original Expanded Universe: So many different & interesting Stormtroopers, plus the Empire eventually makes peace with the New Republic & even recruits non-humans into their forces.
Disney Expanded Universe: Yeah, they changed the armor design & Palpatine had secret Sith Stormtroopers on the side.
I love the First Order storm troopers.
That they were indoctrinated children, abducted from their homes and brainwashed into a faceless drone just gives them a depth the original stormtroopers never really had. Even the little details go a long way.
Was browsing my recommended and this came up, I had forgotten that I had subscribed to you, and after watching this I remember why. Keep up the amazing work man! I’m really happy that I found you again.
I prefer the kind of stormtrooper where they actually used aliens
I LOVE RESONANCE - HOME BEST INTRO IVE SEEN IN YEARS
I remember playing with those old clone troopers when I was a kid. Such good nostalgia
So cool to learn of all the trooper. Great video love your star wars content and empire at war streams
Imagine the Stormtroopers with highly eficient training and gear. And using light exoskeletons and jump packs (not confuse with jet packs).
I imagine that no rebel scum would not decide to fight a OP trooper
Jesus Christ have you seen the spec force and spec ops rebels? As well as Kota’s militia? Bro you gotta respect the Rebellion more in terms of military power, not all of the rebellion is plot armor
... I think you just described a Titanfall Pilot, a truly unstoppable force
Sounds like the first order to me.
@@shyarusu7755 The First Order could easily made the Stormtrooper Corp even more fearful by doing more modifications. But nope
@@illusive_Man22 What else did they need? They have the hand to hand skills to hang with jedi, fanatically devoted, and in peak physical condition. Each of them had advanced training to take up more specialized roles as well. It's like the best combination of Clone trooper and Stormtrooper.
The First Order? Who are they? I don't recall seeing or hearing about them.
Did they do anything important?
CMDR_Kai Gaming no, they just fail at literally everything they do.
Also are you being serious? I hope you’re so I can warn you to not dig into them they lead into a deep dark hole full of poo
I think they won a participation award once....
@@Beandobbin Participation trophy and a Medal for Effort.
CMDR_Kai Gaming not at all
IDK, something from like a bad AU series. Don't worry about it.
I didn't think there were any Imperial splinter groups in canon. I thought Operation Cinder happened, Jakku happnened, and then the Empire gave up and died.
Then somehow a tiny faction from the unknown regions managed to defeat the entire New Republic... except... not...
The opening crawl of The Last Jedi said the New Republic surrendered. This was like five minutes after Starkiller Base exploded so...
And then a ton of ships showed up to Exegal in Rise of Skywalker...
Man f*ck canon! The three movies have more plotholes and inconsistencies than all of Legends!
There canonically were slinter groups most of them either got wiped out or surrendered
The one that survived bided it’s time and became the first order
The idea worked better in legends but it did exist in canon too
BBY: Before baby yoda
ABY: After baby yoda
No fuck that little shithead baby
Totally Unreal • 42 Years ago and •, i mean it kinda works
Empenguin woosh
@@Bone-fd5tj go back to redit NOW
@@Bone-fd5tj
That's not an wooosh youre using it wrong
I really like the Death Troopers they're probably my favorite variant. The Sith Troopers were cool but should have been used more in TROS. Thanks for the video.
Yeah I mean the with eternal did have troop transports each containing 20 troopers
“You can take some of my troops with you. As a preview of what our alliance will bring. They’ll prove themselves nicely”
Clones WERE trained by Mandalorians in Canon as well! Its tossed in as a line in Rebels when the Ghost crew visits Concord Dawn. "They are known for their elite warriors. They were brought in to train clones during the war" -Rex Makes my heart tingle a bit
Les go baby love the look of the type 1 clones
nice, but i like the look of the type 2 clones
Love the new content. Good start for a new year. Cant wait to watch the gameplay. Thanks for your awesome show.
I have a theory that the Sith troopers are clones. It makes a lot of sense in my opinion, they are all very young, and Palpatine is known for creating the clone army in the first place. Not to mention it’s clear he has cloning technology, as we see with Snoke.
And himself
11:53 you can tell how disappointed eco sounded when he was talking about the sequel storyline where palpatine comes back to life
I like how the star wars trilogy is over but the lore keeps going.
thanks for some of the best content out there, eck
I hope we get an old republic trilogy so that we can see the original sith troopers like the ones from knights of the old republic
That'd b Kool,they need to make a live action movie about the clone troopers from their point of view and as main characters as well as a live action movie about the sith from their point of view n as the main characters,that'd be awesome fr
Here's a game: go an an EckhartsLadder binge and take a drink every time he mentions the Ruusan Reformation.
I was just watching one of your old videos when I got this notification
So now that the sequel trilogy has concluded can we all pretend it didn't happen
Nah
I know I do!
Personally, and what I suggest to do is, I just cherry pick what makes good canon. Finn's story, a resistance against Imperial remnants, and the possibility of an Imperial Remnant made of authoritarian military officers and their abducted orphan Stormtroopers makes for good fiction.
I just don't think it deserves to overwrite the new jedi order, new republic being half competent, the extended Skywalker family tree stories, and the Yuzhan Vong invasion.
Idk what your talking about? What sequels?
There is no "sequel trilogy".
There's the Original Trilogy.
The Prequel Trilogy.
The Disney Shame Collection.
And Rogue One
Legacy era is my favorite comic run of SW.
The more star wars content I watch the more I learn that I truly don't understand the lore of star wars, it's like I'm discovering new topics that I didn't even know I knew so little about
Halo theory idea What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it goes not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck
They lose. Spartans are the only reason they had a chance
Cheeky Limerick Cheeky Limerick Spartans were only effective on the ground, and the only way they could damage a Covenant ship was with a bomb from the inside, which usually resulted in the Spartan's death.
However, the Covenant almost always had arial superiority out of sheer fleet power, not tactical prowess except for in the case of Thel Vadaam. The Infinity feel would offset that massively. Human naval tactics outclassed those of the Covenant. With a superior fleet and the tactics to match, the Covanent wouldn't even have gotten past Reach, and possibly could've been pushed back past Harvest, as the UNSC was already mobilized, and the building of a new Infinity class fleet would've been well possible.
The UNSC would win. The Spartans may have been nigh unbeatable ground troopers, but that never mattered in the face of Covenant naval might and their ability to glass planets regardless of ground resistance. A contemporary UNSC fleet would reverse that, making Space battles almost always end in a UNSC victory. UNSC troops were also already a fair challenge to Covenant ground forces without the Spartans. Although they wouldn't win as often on the ground, that wouldn't matter when the carrier or corvette leading the assault is destroyed, leaving Covenant ground forces alone on a Human planet without arial support.
With the proper tactics, one frigate, especially an Autumn class one, could challenge a battlecruiser any day. The Infinity would have no issues dealing with Covenant super-ships like Assault Carriers and Super-carriers, as the Infinity can be see smashing through one with no damage sustained.
Though the Infinity is but one ship, it is obscenely powerful. Though unable to be replicated completely from the unique nature of it's engines, slower versions could still exist, though a little slower than the original, which wouldn't even matter with its might.
Up to developers. This needs on quora or reddit.
Adam and Eve Jango Fett, though an extremely skilled and aggressive warrior, couldn't hope to challenge the strength of a Spartan, and that's talking about the original, not the clones, which are slightly weaker.
Spartans have superior mentality, as well as being better in every way to normal humans. One could argue that clones aren't normal humans, and you'd be correct, but the Spartans are even farther, and Mandalorians were always just a subrace of humans.
A clone still operates like a normal soldier, though better and more dogmatic. They have social lives, sentiment, and fleshed out emotion. Spartans, fully grown ones, never had those distractions. Spartans were unique, and but one could likely take on even the likes of Grievous.
A better analogy would be the Clone Commandos, but even they wouldn't be able to stand up to a Spartan, as they still share the emotional distractions of other clones.
Clones aren't only soldiers. They have a chance to experience a bond besides soldier camaraderie, and have been known to do things well outside of their duties for little more than entertainment, not for the Republic.
You simply can't break a Spartan's morality. They have and always will fight to the death. They may know defeat, but they have never flinched from it. They cannot be broken because they already are broken. Any mental weakness has be chipped away. They have no fear, remorse, or hesitation. They react to all situations accordingly and instantaneously.
Clones, on the other hand, are able to break, just like normal humans. The feel fear, they can hesitate, they can make stupid decisions, and they flinch in the face of loss. All flaws which the Spartans don't have.
Spartans are only Spartans. They are soldiers, nothing else. Clones are people. Soldiers may be human, but Spartans are made to be more soldier than human.
TheWingland With Master Chief the Halo Array would’ve been activated, with humanity losing. Sure the Covenant would be wiped out too, but they would have technically won because they accomplished their goals.
Eckharts using that illegal non-canon BBY and ABY the absolute Madlad
Hey Ech, I have a question what do you like better, canon or legend's?
Balloonswing can’t have one without the other
@@Prince_Luci By "canon" he means Disney canon, whereas "legends" refers to old EU canon. In both cases the films are obviously canon, but Disney canon disagrees with legends canon over other media.
@@Prince_Luci lol, true
I'm a Canon kind of guy.
@@Snoke1912 nice I like both canon and legends.
Great video as always. You mention Thrawn being probably as close to the rightful heir to the empire... Yet another reason we need a Thrawn series. It would make a great project following up The Mandolorian. I would like to see Thrawns imperial legion head out towards Chiss space. Something like him over throwing the Chiss government. I remember hearing they had a civil war or close to it just before the death of Palpatine. Thrawn rushes in to establish his order.
100% love the Post-RotJ timeline from Legends. Just makes more sense and is more interesting to me at least. I prefer the corps to be a mix of natural born recruits and clones. Wish we got to see more from the Imperial Army in Legends though, that was my favorite part of Solo.
Doing Legends and then Canon is the right way to go. I know when exactly I can stop watching. Legends forever!
Given what we learned about Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker, do you think that Palpatine only viewed the Empire as means to an end to eventually achieve a form of total galactic dominance like Joruus C'baoth was seeking? Was the Empire only a stepping stone to the Final Order and then the greater Imperial military and bureaucracy would have been eliminated once it served it purpose?
Man, I love your channel and the videos! Much like many on here, I don't care for the canon stuff(and honestly don't consider it canon) but all the Legends info you go over is awesome.
*12 minutes in*
“Well guys this videos getting long”
Alien stormtroopers sounds like a very cool idea, i’d love to see how all of the armor looked. Also as stormtroopers are apparently rare, i Wonder if the other trooper types were also rare. Like patrol troopers, were they rare? I can imagine them not being as rare, because they were basicly cops.
Some Mandalorians were involved with Clone training in Canon too.
I subscribed, I can’t stop thinking I already watched these videos
I just recently was thinking about how much I liked the clones but I remember that things arent always the same. So like I said before whoever can play the role as an "empire" or a "republic" or whatever you want to call them. They have my vote.
I love the nod to Dark Forces with the voice distortion on the mention of dark troopers!
140 aby looks badass
Hope you talk about old republic troopers eventually. They're my favourite type of soldier in star wars because they aren't just jedi/sith fodder. They could actually put up a fight against them since they fought force users so much.
I like that to because there were quite a lot of sith around so to increase survivability, they needed the training. With the sith gone (Except for 2), intergalactic conflict being at a minimum, and the jedi in control/being peace keepers, combat against force sensitives was less needed.
Yeah the 140 aby one is from the Force Awakens art book, kinda misleading
We don't have too much from the legacy era. So I'd give it a pass. Beside he gave light to a nice looking concept design.
Phase II clone Troopers will always be my favourite
#AskEck
Can you do videos on the Stellaris factions like the endgame crisis events the Contingency, Unbidden, and Prethoyren Scourge and do analysis video about how strong they would be in a Sci Fi lore setting?
Agreed, more hypothetical and he becomes game theory though. Which is still awesome.
@@verixcvoin1432
If the Crisis Factions were placed in another sci fi setting how powerful would they be against factions like the Forerruners, Imperium Of Man, the New Republic, Federation, and others?
@@thorshammer7883 good question...
Eckhart’s Audio Quality at 5:49:
Me after spraying water near my iPad not realizing it’s an issue with the audio recording: 👁👁
5:50 Did you distort your voice here on purpose to make ot more menacing? 😂
I literally spent 2 hours researching all types of Troopers for My Trivia question Yesterday ...and now you decide to release this vid.......
@Никола Майкич is that supposed to be an insult? I do have a boyfriend been together 8 years BTWZ... not that it's any of your business. I just also happen to be part of a trivia channel on youtube so spending hours researching a topic is pretty par for the course when you're a content creator. Or do you just think all girls who are into Star Wars Lore are just sad lonely women? Not that you should care but you look at my profile pic you can clearly see that i'm a solid 8...so am i not aloud to be smart and pretty and confident or do i need a man to teach me everything.
Excuse me i don't know what a gypsy is supposed to mean what is this a Stevie Nix song...but I'm American so where my ancestors were from doesn't matter. If you must know i'm mostly European White and also part Cuban if that makes my opinion or point of view mean more or less to you because apparently race matters now on a star wars lore video. My boyfriend is also European White not That matters. Again im just a girl who likes Star Wars and makes trivia question doesn't make me a gypsy who needs a boyfriend.
@Никола Майкич okay bro you're clearly a bigot peice of shit so im gonna report you for harassment. Your calling me racial slurs and saying all Americans should be white. The Russian school system has truly failed you bro.
About to say first, but then I scrolled down
There’s so much information I wanna know about the Final Order and Sith Troopers, I wish they’d been around for more than just one film
I want to see the exiled, a legion of troopers being hunted to the ends of the galaxy in the wake of Palp's death. Could be a cool thing to explore.
What I liked about the o,d republic era was that the sith empire was not inherently evil, it had evil people in it of course but like in the story game you can see truly good people who fought for the empire, I preferred the areas of grey that that era was
The battle you showed in the background, empire vs rebels, where did you get it from
Phase 2 clone is the best. Seriously want more clone wars on the big screen. Super cool stuff.
Are Old republic trooper are better than clones and stormtroopers?
possibly better than storm troopers because they also volentered but i think the clone is far superior because of being trained at a very young age
Old republic troopers those guys can combat Sith. Which back then sith were much stronger than they are now not all but most. Clones and stormtroopers would have to team up to take down a few of these guys.
stormtroopers yes but not clone troopers,it's stated many times that the clone army is the best army the galaxy has ever seen
The bodyguard outfit has been and will forever be one of the slickest armors in star wars!!!!!
So, we have moved past the rise of Skywalker I approve
Legacy era- I did like that we saw a higher number of alien Storm Troopers, with Marasiah Fel taking command of a platoon of Tradoshan stormies in Legacy 2. While Pallaeon may have introduced aliens, their usage had clearly increased singificantly, with stronger aliens being used to form elite units. Plus there's a good number of stormie PoV stuff in Legacy 1 with Joker squad where we get to see their internal culture, how they've built the idea of 'the honor of the armor' and the POV character is a second gen stormie- a lot different than the indoctrinated conscripts of the earlier empire. Though the Sith were probably rolling that back and doing more heavy recruiting.
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
12:48 greatest outro of all time
I suspect the sith troopers are clones.
I agree with that. A half-dead Emperor, in the middle of Bumfuck, Nowhere, stealing/recruiting young ones for a Theocracy? Ain’t nobody got time for that!
Why cant they be zombies? I mean revived corpses.
@@javierlopez9789 Then they are stupid, because they dont know what way is up.
@@javierlopez9789 wheres the proof.
All I've seen is emperor is a master cloner has the obsession and resources to clone himself an army that's loyal to the sith, so him. He did it for the clone wars as an experiment, it worked now he can do it here it just falls in line with his history and obsessions
The Clones just have a special place in my heart.
lets clone ourselves an army of Arnold Schwarzenegger lol
I know this is a joke but Arnold is just a body builder, if we wanted good clones we would need someone like Jango Fett, some combat veteran with good genetics.
I would have preferred to see the Empire remnant and their cooperation with the Republic in the new Trilogy, and a conflict between a much different enemy and this alliance.
"BBY" is now "BSI" according to Disney...
It’s pretty stupid to just restart the timeline, and bsi just sounds kinda stupid
Tommy Faust What does BSI mean?
@@provablegrub4581 before starkiller incident
The BSI/ASI format actually makes sense from an in-universe POV.
The Empire reformed the calendar of the Galactic Republic into the Imperial Calendar which followed BFE (Before Formation of the Empire) and AFE (After the Formation of the Empire).
To the Rebels/New Republic though it can be followed as BBY (Before Battle of Yavin) and ABY(After Battle of Yavin).
so we know that the Starkiller base incident was in 34 ABY. If we follow that line and if I didn’t make a mistake, the starkiller incident format would be around 53 AFE in the Imperial calendar.
it’s not resetting the time, it’s just another calendar for in-universe since the calendar has reset before.
Edit: here is a screenshot from Matt Martin stating that the visual guide is only going to use the dates relevant to the era of that guide. So BBY/ABY isn’t going anywhere
m.imgur.com/YxMO4sq?
Hello
I just noticed that they actually weren't fighting a full on war for say but crushing Rebelions. At least until the Rebels became the New Republic.
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*Damn I’m early early*
You should honestly make more Legacy Era content