The problem with Star Wars is that they TELL us that the Imperial Army is more common but they don't SHOW us, which is way more important in film making.
This is why I love Andor because they're actually showing the difference and showing stormtroopers as a terrifying force as they should be considering they are based of of an elite force of the already elite SS, which were apart of the Nazi Wehrmacht. Instead of being cannon fader they're a force that are feared by the citizens and when they show up they realize something bad is happening. One could say they have a bad feeling about this.
@Gaius Wyrden that’s why the stormtroopers killed all the rebels on the Tantive IV, took out all of The Hoth Rebels, left Luke stranded and the main characters on the run, and also wiped out like half the rebels on scariff! Because their so worthless! And have *TeRrIbLe AiM!*
I wish Lucusarts etc.had decided to use the Imperial army more than the Stormtroopers as the Troopers have had their fear factor diluted so much over the films and cartoons they have become just comic relief instead of the Empires dreaded shock and awe unit.
@Gaius Wyrden I'm not saying that I don't agree, let alone that I don't *see* where you're coming from. But, particularly in Rogue One and Solo, if the production teams for these two films made stormtroopers and their various specialized variants truly competent, we wouldn't have had either film. Realistically, the Empire should've been large enough to be able to bury any insurgency in a mountain of corpses, and that's not even getting into the weight of its industrial capacity. If stormtroopers were competent, it would alter the dynamic between the Empire and the Rebellion. Admittedly, however, that's not a bad thing. I think it could've been interesting to force the good guys to really try in order to achieve victory, rather than just take advantage ofvyhe fact that their enemy came off as being too stupid to even make a sandwich.
Gaius Wyrden Lets be fair now Gaius. Stormtroopers are the default enemy in a film simply about good guys beating bad guys. Of course they won’t be the threat to the main heroes of the story, that’s just how it works.
Elite fanatical soldiers can mop the floors as good as the regular grunts! Not all patriotic duty is glamorous. Anyway, that's in the First Order. Getting back to the OT, past a certain point, the idea of Stormtroopers as the Empire's elite troopers is laughable. And I don't mean because of their poor performance. I'm talking about their ubiquity. You want me to believe that Stormtroopers are the elites when they're used for everything, everywhere, all the time? That's not elite. That's basic trooper stuff. I really had thought that the "Stormtroopers aren't part of the Army" BS was over and done with when LucasFilm junked 80% of Legends, but that old West End Games/Decipher nonsense that created most of the problems Legends had keeps creeping back into canon.
I use to play WEG, storm troops need very little tweking to kill off a player character's group. Star Wars is a one of the few War Movies that are kid friendly. damit the action figures came out before the movie did at places. John Wayne never got That kind of treatment.
That was probably his duty when performing barracks maintenance. Soldiers when not deployed have some basic duties that they're required to perform, in addition to the ongoing training to keep them in top form. And I figure if it works in real life, it can work in fiction.
It is possible that appearances of the Imperial Army core could happen in The Mandalorian television series. It is set after the fall of the Galactic Empire, which would be after the Galactic Concordance was agreed to. However Imperial Remnant factions might appear and these were forbidden to train and establish stormtrooper units, so other types of soldiers would have to be shown.
This is why I prefer Solo and Rogue One over the sequel trilogy. We get to see some fleshing out of the world that we know, I could not care less about First Order.
Michael Van Sise it’s weird how new elements are being fleshed out in the spin offs movies and not you know in the NEW sequel movies where things should be new and never seen before stuffs instead we get same old stormtroopers,same old x-wing fighters,same old atat and same old planet killing weapon.
but why do we see storm troopers policing small worlds in un-important locations such as Tattooine? or galactic new jersey? (Edit:) I mean this as in is there an actual valid reason? Or are they just thrown in for no real reason
Likely because stormtroopers are far more recognizable to the casual audience then an army trooper wich is wrong as it dilutes the supposed prowess of the stormtroopers but it is a very smart and easy way of telling your audience (I’m an imperial!) without making the person important enough to have lines and using armor to up production value
Gaius Wyrden that was literally the first star wars movie, it's makes absolutely no sense to say that George Lucas and his associates didn't understand their own original ideas, it's clear that originally the stormtroopers were supposed to be the main infantry in the imperial military, but Solo made it ambiguous with introducing these "imperial army troopers" causing people like Generation tech to have to bend over backwards explaining the events of the movie and the absence of the imperial army
The Inquisition is called, and Luke is exposed to specific training scenarios designed to bring out his Force-Sensitivity. When he obviously succeeds in these scenarios, the Inquisitors would take possession of him and probably hand him over to Darth Vader.
@@Tracer_Krieg The Inquisitors probably would've just taken care of training Luke and everything themselves. After all, Vader's a busy guy who can't be everywhere at once. And when Vader was first introduced to the Inquisitors, they already all had their black armour, red spinning lightsabers, "first brother, second sister" designations, their own hierarchy figured out, and some level of training under the Grand Inquisitor. By the time Luke would have become an Inquisitor, he would have stopped going by his own name, and his superiors would still continue to repress his individuality. So that said, it's entirely possible that if Luke became an Inquisitor, and eventually died as an Inquisitor, that Vader never would have learned that Luke - or "Nineteenth Brother" as he might have been called - was his son.
@@mitchellhayward6492 I'm not certain this would happen as it is establish Vader had a constant hand in the Inquisitions training and upkeep. Assuming this is the case, Vader would've dueled Luke at some point and sensing the power he possesses, would've taken him for special attention (ie, find out who he is). After this, a staged death might've occurred, and Vader would take over his training.
@@Tracer_Krieg Still sounds a bit unlikely, I reckon. After all, Vader encountered and tried to kill Luke multiple times before he knew he was his son - and even then, he only found out because Boba Fett told him. And he *never* found out that Leia was his daughter - and he'd been in a lot more contact with her. And besides, during his Stormtrooper training, Luke would've been drilled into addressing himself by / and answering to a alphanumeric designation instead of his name by the time an Inquisitor would come to collect him. And I see no reason why Luke would speak his own name aloud, especially to a superior, unless he was being a bit of a stumble-tongue. But I'm not saying Vader definitely wouldn't have found out. I'm just saying, with the logic surrounding these circumstances, I find it unlikely.
They are droids wearing masks, the separatists are using them to manipulate the masses into swearing loyalty to the CIS to betray the Republic. -This comment was made by the Federal Department of Propaganda for the Galactic Republic
You've been seeing them. The Imperial Army has been onscreen in the form of Stormtroopers since 1977. The Imperial Army as depicted in Solo is old West End Games sourcebook fanwank that never went away despite all evidence to the contrary in every movie, comic, game and book, and has infected the new canon via Solo. All making Stormtroopers separate from the regular army when they've been used as that by every Star Wars writer since the 80s does is create confusing problems like "Okay, so where *IS* the regular army all the time?"
@@williamhiers1280 The Imperial Army is the mudskippers, they basically have the armor of General Veers on the Hoth Campaign. And the stormtroopers on the Death Star are actually Naval Marines, so.
@@PugnaciousProductions Ah, I get it. At first I thought you were talking about the Imperial Navy Commandos. Now, though, I see that you mean the Imperial Marines, a branch of the Stormtrooper corps that primarily served aboard Star Destroyers and at other Imperial Navy installations. They're not canon anymore, and their Legends entry on Wookieepedia only lists four appearances for them, none of which are any of the movies. Both they and the previously mentioned (ans also no longer canon) Navy Commandos were part of a trend that saw the classic Navy Troopers being pushed to the sidelines and replaced with increasingly more Stormtrooper-like troops (and in the case of the Imperial Marines, actual Stormtroopers). We're seeing this happen again with the new canon, sadly; despite Navy Troopers making a few token appearances in Rogue One (in the form of both Death Star Troopers as well as regular Navy Troopers aboard the shield gate), Solo (as security at the spaceport) and Rebels (in the Imperial facility in the series finale), they're once again being largely ignored. We keep seeing Stormtroopers when we should be seeing Navy Troopers. Every time there's an Imperial ship, it's full to bursting with Stormtroopers (again, not Marines who aren't canon anymore, but just regular, garden variety Stormtroopers) when logically we should be seeing Navy Troopers aboard them like we did in the OT. We did see Stormtroopers on the Death Star(s), but the only troops we saw aboard any Star Destroyers in the original movies were Navy Troopers. The Stormtroopers who boarded the Tantive IV and came with Vader to Bespin obviously came aboard the Tyrant and Executor respectively, but as passengers, not the ship's compliment of security. This set a precedent which most subsequent films and shows have seen fit to ignore for some reason. Rebels did it all the dang time, and now The Mandalorian did it too with Gideon's cruiser, though I'm willing to give the latter a pass because it's the Imperial remnant and not the regular Empire, and if Gideon wants to staff his ship entirely with Stormtroopers in full armor as opposed to more proper regulation Navy Troopers, that's his business. At least the dang Navy Commandos aren't canon anymore, and only ever even made one appearance. They were redundant. The Imperial Navy already had its own troops. I understand that there's several different variants of Stormtroopers and so there can be something similar for Navy Troopers, but from a design standpoint the Navy Commandos failed in this department because they didn't carry on any of the design aesthetic of their Navy Trooper brethren.
This channel is amazing. The amount of research that goes into the writing of the scripts is very impressive. If they handed out PhD’s in Star Wars, you guys would all have doctorates.
We would send in the Stormtrooper Corps to rescue Allen from the ficken Dolphins.. We would send in the Imperial Army to sustain the war against the Dolphins once our Troopers bring him home °^°
I think the rebels would help with that. They got the same enemy. The dolphins. We need to unite to fight the Dolphins and liberate earth from them. The dolphins are a big and strong enemy.
@@f4fphantomii468 Work with the Rebels..? The ones who use Mon Cal vessels and stolen Imperial frigates as their main warships? The faction who's backbone is the production of an *oceanic* race? Forgive me for the suspicion, but I have full faith in the Rebels (or just the Mon Cal and Quarrens) attempting to enlist the aid the Dolphins.. Combined, their forces would pose an actual serious threat to the humans of the planet (Earth) and the Empire! If anything we (the Empire) should engage our battle fleet first.. and if we -get our asses kic- decide to withdraw to a safe distance from the planet, send in the... Rebel... Forces. I understand that trust is a delicate commodity.. One which the Rebels and Empire do not have much of.. so we (The Empire) should simply bring enough ships to destroy the Dolphins *and* the Rebels! The only way this fragile union could fall apart is: A) if we have an incompetent, lying, plot device tier fool as the Admiral. B) The Rebels fire upon us, and we recieve visual confirmation that it is the Rebels doing so.. Hell we could try to contact them and speak while firing back. This mission will likely go undocumented but, if the Rebels uphold their end of the bargain, it could bring about lasting peace.
What do I deploy on the ground Storm troopers Scout sniper troopers Shore troopers Jump Troopers Death Troopers And watch out project Blackwing Has been detected The sickness....... The Horde is coming do you hear the screeching EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAEEEE!!!!!!! DEATH TROOPERS
@Lord Admiral Spire If this "Holy Terra" is your single divine base of operations.. Your most cherished planet.. The planet on which *your* God Emperor resides. Why was it necessary for the Empire to come rescue our boi Allen? Surely your God Emperor can detect these "Dolphins" in the warp. (Also, Galactic Basic ftw! High Gothic's mom gay 😳🔫)
Basically, Stormtoopers = Waffen-SS, Imperial Army Troopers = Heer, Navy Troops = Luftwaffe ground forces or Kriegsmarine Marine Stoßtrupp Abteilungs. The guys working with Lucas back in the '70s knew about this stuff (likely they worked on WWII movies as well) and purposefully pattered the Imperial military like this, uniform colors, weapons and helmets were also all pattered based on this idea with everyone armed with some kind of SMG, feldgrau officer's uniforms, and exaggerated stahlhelms for helmets on some troops.
"... and these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise." - They are only accurate when they use plot rifle.
@@FJDH11 "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise." "But Ben, this Jawa looks like he was beated to death with a rifle butt. The closest blaster impact is six feet away!" "That's what I meant."
Edward Hahm It reminds me of the Imperial Guardsman from WH 40k and looks like the Wehrmacht from WW1 and WW2. It also reminds me of General Veers. I always though Veers looked so badass on Hoth. He’s the Rommel of Star Wars after all.
Hey Allen, could you talk about the modern day war crimes committed by the various factions in Star Wars? I think it could help bring into view how dark the “good guys” are
hes done that plenty of times...specifically how shitty the Jedi really are, and how much collateral damage the Republic and Alliance cause to outer rim worlds go back to the beginning of the channel.
You gotta do what you gotta do to get rid of em terrorist. I mean Merica blows up towns, and hospitals, and such in the name of "freedom" because they thought to be holding terrorist and weapons. So before you ask the question you just did, pay attention to what over 300M people call "good guys" and then ask the question. Fun fact captured terrorist are actually tortured in the U.S.A because they are not considered POWs because they are terrorist.
Johnny Anderson2 - Roblox Actually, it’s against the UN rules/regulations to bomb hospitals, religious facilities, and other special buildings. Also, the US would _never_ interrogate a prisoner on the mainland. They’d take them to CIA blacksites like Guantanamo Bay.
@@darthzayexeet3653 Agreed. I thought also that too many died too easily in the mandalorian. It felt too easy for Mando and his band of rebels. The storm troopers should be able to hit stuff better and actually pose a serious threat.
I wish we'd get to see a more even mix of Stormtroopers to Imperial Army / Navy troopers in the future. Seeing the Stormtroopers all the time kinda diminishes their "super elite" status, makes them seem more and more like they're just the regular joes.
The Imperial Army is based largely on Imperial-controlled worlds and are on the front lines against local insurrections and Rebel operations. The Stormtrooper Corps operates on more of a galactic level, being able to conduct operations in diverse planetary conditions and environments. They're on the front lines of most major campaigns and battles.
"Finish the fight before tending to the wounded (unless a dedicated medic)" is SOP for most military's normal forces. Usually because it's a lot easier to tend to casualties when you're not being shot at and receiving even more casualties because you're not laying down suppressing fire.
Fun fact: Everything about the Empire being anti-alien has been retconned and is now Legends. For all we know, some of those ST's are Devorians or Zabraks. Having aliens seems to be more of a budget issue as even in the rebel alliance aliens were rare. You never saw any aliens in the rebel alliance until Return of the Jedi and even in Rogue One you only saw one alien gunner, no alien pilots, and no alien infantry.
@@neomcdoom Due to their rarity in both the Empire AND Rebellion, the alien would stick out and be noticed. That's a bad thing if you're trying to work under cover. Heck even in the new Star Wars movies seeing aliens in the Resistance is rare.
It's nice to know that although Stormtroopers had their helmets monitored. They were still allowed to engage in small talk. Like talking about Skyhoppers in Rogue One and the B'omarr Monks in a New Hope.
Unless it is unarmed, then they are super accurate. Even stone weapons are enough to effect their aim, hence why the Jawas were slaughtered and the Ewoks had BBQ.
@@veganhero1828 It is called plot armor. In the Star Wars universe, the characters are aware of this effect and refer to it as having the Force with you.
Here's a few: Stormtrooper Sandtrooper Snowtrooper Scout Trooper Death Trooper Shoretrooper Patrol Trooper Range Trooper Incinerator Trooper Dark Trooper (robot Stormtrooper) Those are the canon ones I can remember. The old EU ones like the Shock Trooper aren't canon anymore.
7:32 you said the Storm Troopers were more like light infantry, it's actually the other way 'round. Their heavier armor and individual weaponry would make them a heavy infantry force despite the lack of vehicle support. The Imperial Army was more light infantry because of their kit and lighter armor. The inclusion of vehicles would make for a mechanized infantry force, be it light mechanized infantry (IA with vehicles) or heavy mechanized infantry (Storm Troopers with vehicles). Cheers! 😊
Even though just about every movie and show and comic continues to contradict the official info. The Army Troopers were part of very early EU roleplaying stat stuff and the old EU barely used them. And despite them appearing for the first time in live-action in Solo, the new canon has also seen fit to mostly ignore them in favor of Stormtroopers. Stormtroopers can't be "the elite, used only for super mega special ops" if they're everywhere guarding every base, ship and podunk spaceport. Sometimes Star Wars' canon is problematic in that it doesn't reflect what we're actually shown. Either they need to start using Stormtroopers less, or revise their role as outlined in the official guide stuff.
You should have mentioned that this is the Canon version. In Legends, the Stormtrooper Corps was its own branch and stood directly under the Emperor. Stormtroopers were also much less common than in Canon, being the elite shock troopers, while Imperial Army troopers were the standard grunts. This makes sense because the Stormtrooper Corps evolved from the GAR, which was also much smaller than the numerous planetary defense forces which were united and centralized in order to create the Imperial Army. Btw, fun fact: You actually can see Imperial Army troopers in the OT. The guys commonly refered to as AT-ST pilots are infact Imperial Army troopers in their typical uniform, only lacking the body armor General Veers wears on Hoth.
"Kill them Morthok their just clones!" *pew! "OH MY GOD SOMEONE CALL HIS WIFE AND KIDS!" "Rixuk th..their n..not clones!" "Their bureaucrats Morthok it was a figure of speech!"
2:35 was the point I wrote off Solo as a Star Wars movie and looked at it as just a SW-themed heist flick. Han was a naval officer, not an infantryman. He was courtmartialed after questioning his ship's CO. EU lives!!
As you said, Stormtroopers & Army Troopers are not comparable with US Marines & Army. A better comparison comes to mind with Soviet Shock Troopers & Line Infantry (Strelky and Guards) in the Great Patriotic War, or with German Stosstruppen & Landsers, Austrian JägerKommandos & Landwehr or Italian Arditi with the Line Infantry in the Great War. Is not their elite qualification, is their doctrine: Elite light Infantry specially equipped with short weapons and body armor, trained in infiltration doctrine for assaults, rapid deployment and fast movements, acting as spearhead for an Army's offensive. In a US context, a better comparison will be Rangers & Regulars. Great video as always
"Great Patriotic War" is hilarious. There was nothing patriotic about it as Stalin only used it for propaganda to get the Soviet people to fight harder. In reality, it was going to be a war about spreading Bolshevism and Stalin's power.
@@MrHogGamer and the Hundred Years War lasted more than a Hundred Years, if you want exact and scientific war names, you were born in the wrong species.
Im agreeing with BAZGOTH , it was just commie propaganda . also that's a horrible comparison , ww2 was around 70 years ago and the hundred years war was more like 700 lol.
The Guard status was awarded to the units of Soviet Army after they distinguished themselves in service. Basically any unit could have become a Guard unit.
This is one of my main issues with star wars since forever... the lore says stormtroopers are competent. Then any mainstream media shows them as incompetent cannon fodder. I really like the empire but man they are never depicted well outside the expanded lore
Well they are the bad guys and bad guy especially henchmen 101 they get beaten by the heroes (mainly main characters) which includes missing shots (which happens to many other villains no matter how "trained" they are)
Great analysis! I would have also cited the political factors that affected Imperial deployments - for instance key Imperial officials & officers were much more likely to have stormtroopers as bodyguards; as sign of the favor by the Emperor, and as part the various pissing contests that went on between the various Moffs, Grand Moffs, Grand Admirals, and such that made Imperial bureaucracy such a...vigorous...endeavor.
Emperor Vader (Any black project or sith special forces not officially in the military or listed) Grand Moff Regional Moffs Planetary Governers Grand Admirals (military but equal influence to a Moff) Fleet Admirals Star Destroyer Captains (Individual) Everything else not worth mentioning
Weren't there also physical requirements for Storm Troopers so that the armor would not have to come in multiple sizes, easing logistics? After all, Luke is a little short to be a Storm Trooper.
I see it different: Imperial Army - ground forces for conventional battles (assault on enemy, war in the trenches, using flyging machines, tanks etc.) Stormtroopers - not only soldiers, also law enforcement force and police itself also for keeping order and identyfying suspects - more police force than military force.
So it's like the Imperial Guard from Warhammer 40k. The massive amounts of Imperial Guardsman are more widely deployed and use, arguably serving the backbone of Imperium Manpower, but we always manage to see Astartes-- Space marines. Those who are used for the toughest of battles, to intervene when things are the most grim.
Amazing backstory on the Imperial Military. But now that I know Stormtroopers got elite training, it makes it even more perplexing that they were such bad shots.
Given that George Lucas modelled the Imperial military a great deal on the Nazi military i'd say that Imperial Army troopers were equivalent to the Wehrmarkt and the Stormtroopers to the SS.
The SS weren't as well trained as the infantry of the Wehrmacht, but the blitzkrieg experts of the German military (called Sturmtruppen or stormtroopers) were shock infantry and some of the main carriers of the blitzkrieg so it hunk that they would be more ideal
I feel like the writers determine how Stormtroopers are shown. Sometimes they're space cops who are mostly just fodder or kids trying to get through school, other times they're like SAS commandos, but other times shock troops bulking out numbers while the better units like Death Troopers, ISB agents, Dark Troopers, Inquisitors, Imperial Officers, Shadow Troopers, Evo Troopers Shock Troopers Terror Troopers or Range Troopers do the real hard work.
I always viewed as like the Samurai and the Ashugaru. A Samurai trained his entire life in the arts of war but of course they were very limited in numbers so you couldn't simply waste their skills, so you had the Ashugaru foot soldiers given very basic training to essentially bolster forces as essentially expendable cheap muscle. So you had a balance between quality and quantity And while yeah a Samurai is a better soldier then a storm trooper I found it a good over all comparison. As the idea of a Stormtrooper is a being souly dedicated to fighting wars.
Thank you. Most of the time when I click one of your videos they are like gold panning through all the excess fluff for maybe a minute of the information the title offers to provide. In this case though, on subject, no rambling, very informational. Thank you.
Technically Star Wars version of between wehrmacht and the waffen schutzstaffel. Plus seeing alan like this.. the bloody dolphins had made the 1st move. Time to depth charge the living F out of em..
That comparison makes sense further if you know that the Wehrmacht and Galactic Empire's Army & Navy all wore gray uniforms outside of combat, whereas the Schutzstaffel and Galactic Empire Stormtroopers wore black uniforms outside of combat.
@@anarchomando7707 The Sturmabteilung (SA) were the brownshirts. The SS used Brown shirts and black pants at first as a nod to the SA after the SA was disbanded, but later the SS started using all-black uniforms to appear more intimidating.
I see it from different point of view. The imperial soldiers we see in Rogue one should be taken as Auxilliary units. Like you said, conscripts recruited from rabble. Worthy only for guarding the rear, flanks, or already taken areas. Not as the main, most numerous army.
Excellent! Really Appreciate the way you break things down and give great summary overviews. Well Done. Be Safe out there folks. ~ Peace & Health to Us All.
We really should've seen Imperial Army units in other expanded materials (both Legends and Canon) as they would've far better fodder villain goons than the Stormtroopers. The Stormtroopers are supposed to be Elite units, but because from a story perspective they're treated like the main fighting force of the Empire, they also suffer the most amount of defeats and thus lose any real respect from the audience. Using the IAT's instead would've fixed that issue.
They are in books and comics occasionally, but really they are most common in role playing games which most people don't play. The RPGs like "Edge of the Empire" and "Age of Rebellion" offer tons of detail about the Empire and its military, and Imperial Army is the most common empire soldier in those games. Stormtroopers are treated like mid level enemies that you usually don't face until you are a bit more leveled up.
The Empire wasn't anti-alien. Alien stormtroopers definitely existed. I can't recall the exact details, but I believe at first they were a bit more selective so they didn't need different armor sizes. Eventually they even expanded the corps to allow aliens of various shapes and sizes.
Uh.. it's been pretty solid canon for ages that the Empire, at least during Palpatine's period, was pretty humanocentric. Maybe you're thinking of the Imperial Remnant era, or the Empire of The Hand, which both had alien Stormies?
@@rclipse1985 Yeah, I think I was misremembering some old lore I heard. Are those other groups from the KOTOR time, I need to brush up on that. Old Sith seem way cooler.
I like how you said the Imperial Stormtroopers aren't Marines, the proceed to explain in great detail how they performed the exact jobs of modern Marines. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, you can call it an Imperial Marine.
I literally just realized that the Marine recruiter shown here is Sgt. Leifeight. I served with him in 3rd Battalion 5th Marines Kilo Co back in 2012-13. Good dude.
I’d like to see a small series about your ideal fleet, army, even squad breakdown for each era and from a mix of each. Or even how you would defend a planet in Star Wars.
Yeah. The concept of the Imperial Army have its own distinct troops like the Navy was a nice idea, but except for Solo, all we ever see are Stormtroopers (to the point where they're even replacing Navy Troopers as security aboard Imperial ships!).
@@ragemonkey117 not really, ISA invaded Vekta and the Helgans were just trying to retake it in Killzone 1. ISA were invading Helgan in Killzone 2 and 3 lol.
Just so you know my friend, the difference between Marines and the Army is that the primary purpose of Marines is to be an invasion force. The army is more of a defense and occupation force. They both do a bit of both but typically Marines are used for invasions because of their amphibious training. You nailed it
All human factions we need to defeat the dolphins. Imperium of man, UNSC, And Galactic Empire team up and take the fight to the dolphins The true villain is Aquaman
Will u make Imperial Army vs US Army video about both sides' training styles, philosophy, equipment (include weapons) and combat tactics if against each other in the future?
Its pretty obvious. The US army is much more concentrated on making their soldiers more relaxed and keeping a stable psyche. The equipment is pretty obvious, except with rifles they are designed to be used semi auto most of the time with engagement being on average 150m and oneshot affairs. Imperial storm troopers would use their rifle as an SMG probably and would use it normally within 10 meters or something. Since storm troopers are just a movie army, US troopers would have more advanced and reasonable tactics
I think they should have skipped introducing the army troopers... based on the original movies it always seemed that the Stormtroopers was the army or groundforces of the empire similar to the clones before them.
"just clones" they weren't "just" clones, they were clones of mandalorians. it wasnt till they changed the cloning regulations did storm troopers become trash
Stormtroopers were alleged to be fearsome and elite troops, it's just that having this fact and displaying it in a movie makes it harder to develop a good battle scene.
@@bluntcabbage6042 actually it's not, you just have to show the stormtroopers winning battles, unfortunately most star wars producers are pro rebellion
The problem with Star Wars is that they TELL us that the Imperial Army is more common but they don't SHOW us, which is way more important in film making.
@@Styfalled they could've shown us more battles on the Frontline during the galactic civil war
@@chaoticclonestudios simply 1917 movie
Thank goodness for Andor
@@libertyprime2013 Seriously, Andor has been a breath of fresh of air for the Star Wars universe
This is why I love Andor because they're actually showing the difference and showing stormtroopers as a terrifying force as they should be considering they are based of of an elite force of the already elite SS, which were apart of the Nazi Wehrmacht. Instead of being cannon fader they're a force that are feared by the citizens and when they show up they realize something bad is happening. One could say they have a bad feeling about this.
9:05 simply put it, Stormtroopers are assigned to operations where the Rebels are deploying their main characters.
Narayuga Prajna best summary
@ImWelkinHere Yeah remember the DT trying to hit the blind dude.
If Leia, Luke Skywalker... They're force sensitive!
@Gaius Wyrden that’s why the stormtroopers killed all the rebels on the Tantive IV, took out all of The Hoth Rebels, left Luke stranded and the main characters on the run, and also wiped out like half the rebels on scariff!
Because their so worthless! And have *TeRrIbLe AiM!*
@@felipeaugusto2600 it was the force, that was the point of the scene.
I wish Lucusarts etc.had decided to use the Imperial army more than the Stormtroopers as the Troopers have had their fear factor diluted so much over the films and cartoons they have become just comic relief instead of the Empires dreaded shock and awe unit.
In the books, the Stormtroopers got an “Oh shit” response. In the movies they got a “Great, more” response.
Kinda how it goes. Probably why they had to introduce Shoretroooers and Deathtroopers as well to kind of power creep the military for Rogue One.
@Gaius Wyrden I'm not saying that I don't agree, let alone that I don't *see* where you're coming from. But, particularly in Rogue One and Solo, if the production teams for these two films made stormtroopers and their various specialized variants truly competent, we wouldn't have had either film.
Realistically, the Empire should've been large enough to be able to bury any insurgency in a mountain of corpses, and that's not even getting into the weight of its industrial capacity. If stormtroopers were competent, it would alter the dynamic between the Empire and the Rebellion. Admittedly, however, that's not a bad thing. I think it could've been interesting to force the good guys to really try in order to achieve victory, rather than just take advantage ofvyhe fact that their enemy came off as being too stupid to even make a sandwich.
Gaius Wyrden Lets be fair now Gaius. Stormtroopers are the default enemy in a film simply about good guys beating bad guys. Of course they won’t be the threat to the main heroes of the story, that’s just how it works.
@Gaius Wyrden Shoretroopers were a bit better. They managed to destroy a rebel shuttle and they did ok in the firefight.
"The Stormtroopers were elite fanatical soldiers"
Finn: "I'm a trash man."
Elite fanatical soldiers can mop the floors as good as the regular grunts! Not all patriotic duty is glamorous. Anyway, that's in the First Order. Getting back to the OT, past a certain point, the idea of Stormtroopers as the Empire's elite troopers is laughable. And I don't mean because of their poor performance. I'm talking about their ubiquity. You want me to believe that Stormtroopers are the elites when they're used for everything, everywhere, all the time? That's not elite. That's basic trooper stuff. I really had thought that the "Stormtroopers aren't part of the Army" BS was over and done with when LucasFilm junked 80% of Legends, but that old West End Games/Decipher nonsense that created most of the problems Legends had keeps creeping back into canon.
tbf he was also a rookie
Almost all the first order has are stormtroopers, every other kind of soldier is a vast minority and therefore unable to be spared.
I use to play WEG, storm troops need very little tweking to kill off a player character's group. Star Wars is a one of the few War Movies that are kid friendly. damit the action figures came out before the movie did at places. John Wayne never got That kind of treatment.
That was probably his duty when performing barracks maintenance. Soldiers when not deployed have some basic duties that they're required to perform, in addition to the ongoing training to keep them in top form. And I figure if it works in real life, it can work in fiction.
Why was there a lack of camouflage for imperial stormtroopers on planets such as Endor?
Geroge Luca's plot and the Empire prefer fear over practicality
The white plastic for the costumes was a lot cheaper and they carried it over from A New Hope.
There's a video of jt
Nobody gonna say it? Endor was a moon not a planet. But really they could of used a few cans of spray paint to add a bit of flavor to the armor
They hid well enough that it didn't matter.
Would be nice seeing more of the Imperial army core, the Solo movie had the most
Yeah, same.
It is possible that appearances of the Imperial Army core could happen in The Mandalorian television series. It is set after the fall of the Galactic Empire, which would be after the Galactic Concordance was agreed to. However Imperial Remnant factions might appear and these were forbidden to train and establish stormtrooper units, so other types of soldiers would have to be shown.
This is why I prefer Solo and Rogue One over the sequel trilogy. We get to see some fleshing out of the world that we know, I could not care less about First Order.
Michael Van Sise true, that’s why I have so high for hopes for the Mandalorian show.
Michael Van Sise it’s weird how new elements are being fleshed out in the spin offs movies and not you know in the NEW sequel movies where things should be new and never seen before stuffs instead we get same old stormtroopers,same old x-wing fighters,same old atat and same old planet killing weapon.
Damn, the dolphins still got him.
He remembered his name this time.
I, for one, welcome our new aquatic overlords.
Alexthe360Great Heresy!
The wet side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be...unnatural.
He's been compromised by the Dolphins. Eliminate him now!
”The female stormtroopers are tough as nails.”
Battlefront 2: Has a emote where they mimic a Tie-fighter
Ha ha pew pew
Girl power?????????? 🧐
@@orbitingsentientsatellite4361 no
@@orbitingsentientsatellite4361 stfu
@@darklaser8540 XD
but why do we see storm troopers policing small worlds in un-important locations such as Tattooine? or galactic new jersey?
(Edit:) I mean this as in is there an actual valid reason? Or are they just thrown in for no real reason
Likely because stormtroopers are far more recognizable to the casual audience then an army trooper wich is wrong as it dilutes the supposed prowess of the stormtroopers but it is a very smart and easy way of telling your audience (I’m an imperial!) without making the person important enough to have lines and using armor to up production value
They didn't have a presence until the droids were reported there.
Gaius Wyrden that was literally the first star wars movie, it's makes absolutely no sense to say that George Lucas and his associates didn't understand their own original ideas, it's clear that originally the stormtroopers were supposed to be the main infantry in the imperial military, but Solo made it ambiguous with introducing these "imperial army troopers" causing people like Generation tech to have to bend over backwards explaining the events of the movie and the absence of the imperial army
Becuase that planet is highly important for the empire for the space routes
Johnny Anderson2 - Roblox because George didnt think about regular soldiers back then. People need to stop trying to make sense of this fact
What will happen if Luke Skywalker had joined the academy will the last name Skywalker with the DNA of Anakin?
The Inquisition is called, and Luke is exposed to specific training scenarios designed to bring out his Force-Sensitivity. When he obviously succeeds in these scenarios, the Inquisitors would take possession of him and probably hand him over to Darth Vader.
@@Tracer_Krieg then he becomes a friking powerhouse and him and vader tale down sidious and they rule as father and son.
@@Tracer_Krieg The Inquisitors probably would've just taken care of training Luke and everything themselves. After all, Vader's a busy guy who can't be everywhere at once. And when Vader was first introduced to the Inquisitors, they already all had their black armour, red spinning lightsabers, "first brother, second sister" designations, their own hierarchy figured out, and some level of training under the Grand Inquisitor.
By the time Luke would have become an Inquisitor, he would have stopped going by his own name, and his superiors would still continue to repress his individuality. So that said, it's entirely possible that if Luke became an Inquisitor, and eventually died as an Inquisitor, that Vader never would have learned that Luke - or "Nineteenth Brother" as he might have been called - was his son.
@@mitchellhayward6492 I'm not certain this would happen as it is establish Vader had a constant hand in the Inquisitions training and upkeep. Assuming this is the case, Vader would've dueled Luke at some point and sensing the power he possesses, would've taken him for special attention (ie, find out who he is). After this, a staged death might've occurred, and Vader would take over his training.
@@Tracer_Krieg Still sounds a bit unlikely, I reckon. After all, Vader encountered and tried to kill Luke multiple times before he knew he was his son - and even then, he only found out because Boba Fett told him.
And he *never* found out that Leia was his daughter - and he'd been in a lot more contact with her.
And besides, during his Stormtrooper training, Luke would've been drilled into addressing himself by / and answering to a alphanumeric designation instead of his name by the time an Inquisitor would come to collect him. And I see no reason why Luke would speak his own name aloud, especially to a superior, unless he was being a bit of a stumble-tongue.
But I'm not saying Vader definitely wouldn't have found out. I'm just saying, with the logic surrounding these circumstances, I find it unlikely.
I just realized that I almost never see the backs of any RUclipsrs' heads...
Maybe they have none.
Same thing as their legs
They are droids wearing masks, the separatists are using them to manipulate the masses into swearing loyalty to the CIS to betray the Republic.
-This comment was made by the Federal Department of Propaganda for the Galactic Republic
@@idurisu930 That's how I discovered one of my favorite youtuber, that I thought was 1m70, is in fact 1m90+ !
Gonna call it. Soon a GT episode will be hosted by the Christmas tree
Yes
Deck the halls with Allen's insides. Fallahlalala, la la la.
@@Warhammered Allan if you see this... just the tree next video
WTF happened to u Allen at 0:02?! Are those dolphins still controlling u?!
Damn dolphins
Why Dolphins? I'm confuse
Are we sure one of us didn't upset him.
Production values have dropped
He remembered his name this time.
Would actually like to see the imperial army more.
You've been seeing them. The Imperial Army has been onscreen in the form of Stormtroopers since 1977. The Imperial Army as depicted in Solo is old West End Games sourcebook fanwank that never went away despite all evidence to the contrary in every movie, comic, game and book, and has infected the new canon via Solo. All making Stormtroopers separate from the regular army when they've been used as that by every Star Wars writer since the 80s does is create confusing problems like "Okay, so where *IS* the regular army all the time?"
@@williamhiers1280 The Imperial Army is the mudskippers, they basically have the armor of General Veers on the Hoth Campaign. And the stormtroopers on the Death Star are actually Naval Marines, so.
@@PugnaciousProductions Stormtroopers and Navy Troopers (the guys in big black shiny helmets) are different kinds of soldiers.
@@williamhiers1280 You misunderstood, Naval Marines and Navy Troopers are different too.
@@PugnaciousProductions Ah, I get it. At first I thought you were talking about the Imperial Navy Commandos. Now, though, I see that you mean the Imperial Marines, a branch of the Stormtrooper corps that primarily served aboard Star Destroyers and at other Imperial Navy installations.
They're not canon anymore, and their Legends entry on Wookieepedia only lists four appearances for them, none of which are any of the movies.
Both they and the previously mentioned (ans also no longer canon) Navy Commandos were part of a trend that saw the classic Navy Troopers being pushed to the sidelines and replaced with increasingly more Stormtrooper-like troops (and in the case of the Imperial Marines, actual Stormtroopers).
We're seeing this happen again with the new canon, sadly; despite Navy Troopers making a few token appearances in Rogue One (in the form of both Death Star Troopers as well as regular Navy Troopers aboard the shield gate), Solo (as security at the spaceport) and Rebels (in the Imperial facility in the series finale), they're once again being largely ignored.
We keep seeing Stormtroopers when we should be seeing Navy Troopers. Every time there's an Imperial ship, it's full to bursting with Stormtroopers (again, not Marines who aren't canon anymore, but just regular, garden variety Stormtroopers) when logically we should be seeing Navy Troopers aboard them like we did in the OT.
We did see Stormtroopers on the Death Star(s), but the only troops we saw aboard any Star Destroyers in the original movies were Navy Troopers. The Stormtroopers who boarded the Tantive IV and came with Vader to Bespin obviously came aboard the Tyrant and Executor respectively, but as passengers, not the ship's compliment of security. This set a precedent which most subsequent films and shows have seen fit to ignore for some reason. Rebels did it all the dang time, and now The Mandalorian did it too with Gideon's cruiser, though I'm willing to give the latter a pass because it's the Imperial remnant and not the regular Empire, and if Gideon wants to staff his ship entirely with Stormtroopers in full armor as opposed to more proper regulation Navy Troopers, that's his business.
At least the dang Navy Commandos aren't canon anymore, and only ever even made one appearance. They were redundant. The Imperial Navy already had its own troops. I understand that there's several different variants of Stormtroopers and so there can be something similar for Navy Troopers, but from a design standpoint the Navy Commandos failed in this department because they didn't carry on any of the design aesthetic of their Navy Trooper brethren.
This channel is amazing. The amount of research that goes into the writing of the scripts is very impressive. If they handed out PhD’s in Star Wars, you guys would all have doctorates.
And then I can tell my parents that there was a point to all the Star Wars comics and novels I grew up reading
We would send in the Stormtrooper Corps to rescue Allen from the ficken Dolphins..
We would send in the Imperial Army to sustain the war against the Dolphins once our Troopers bring him home °^°
I think the rebels would help with that. They got the same enemy. The dolphins. We need to unite to fight the Dolphins and liberate earth from them. The dolphins are a big and strong enemy.
@@f4fphantomii468 Work with the Rebels..? The ones who use Mon Cal vessels and stolen Imperial frigates as their main warships? The faction who's backbone is the production of an *oceanic* race?
Forgive me for the suspicion, but I have full faith in the Rebels (or just the Mon Cal and Quarrens) attempting to enlist the aid the Dolphins.. Combined, their forces would pose an actual serious threat to the humans of the planet (Earth) and the Empire!
If anything we (the Empire) should engage our battle fleet first.. and if we -get our asses kic- decide to withdraw to a safe distance from the planet, send in the... Rebel... Forces.
I understand that trust is a delicate commodity.. One which the Rebels and Empire do not have much of.. so we (The Empire) should simply bring enough ships to destroy the Dolphins *and* the Rebels! The only way this fragile union could fall apart is:
A) if we have an incompetent, lying, plot device tier fool as the Admiral.
B) The Rebels fire upon us, and we recieve visual confirmation that it is the Rebels doing so.. Hell we could try to contact them and speak while firing back.
This mission will likely go undocumented but, if the Rebels uphold their end of the bargain, it could bring about lasting peace.
What do I deploy on the ground
Storm troopers
Scout sniper troopers
Shore troopers
Jump Troopers
Death Troopers
And watch out project Blackwing
Has been detected
The sickness.......
The Horde is coming
do you hear the screeching
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAEEEE!!!!!!!
DEATH TROOPERS
@Lord Admiral Spire If this "Holy Terra" is your single divine base of operations.. Your most cherished planet.. The planet on which *your* God Emperor resides.
Why was it necessary for the Empire to come rescue our boi Allen? Surely your God Emperor can detect these "Dolphins" in the warp.
(Also, Galactic Basic ftw! High Gothic's mom gay 😳🔫)
Cool The Ocean til its Frozen
Basically, Stormtoopers = Waffen-SS, Imperial Army Troopers = Heer, Navy Troops = Luftwaffe ground forces or Kriegsmarine Marine Stoßtrupp Abteilungs. The guys working with Lucas back in the '70s knew about this stuff (likely they worked on WWII movies as well) and purposefully pattered the Imperial military like this, uniform colors, weapons and helmets were also all pattered based on this idea with everyone armed with some kind of SMG, feldgrau officer's uniforms, and exaggerated stahlhelms for helmets on some troops.
*How'd it go with the recruitment?*
_Washed out._
*How?*
_Firing range… too accurate._
Moon's haunted...
Ok, I laughted too hard after that...
"... and these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise." - They are only accurate when they use plot rifle.
@@FJDH11 "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise."
"But Ben, this Jawa looks like he was beated to death with a rifle butt. The closest blaster impact is six feet away!"
"That's what I meant."
@@FJDH11 I think Obi was being sarcastic...
The Imperial Army soldier in the brown/grey armor looks more badass than stormtroopers.
Heh, I'm with you pal! I just love the Imperial Army Mudtrooper outfit.
Edward Hahm while good I prefer the stormtroopers for some reason
Edward Hahm
It reminds me of the Imperial Guardsman from WH 40k and looks like the Wehrmacht from WW1 and WW2. It also reminds me of General Veers. I always though Veers looked so badass on Hoth. He’s the Rommel of Star Wars after all.
and more realistic
olodemolo MCAroon
True dat
8:48
If this move had been Rated R, the poor rebel who took that AT-ST shot to the torso would have been nothing but a fine mist.
Totally melted
Depends in the strength of the blaster
@@theleanbusinessman5431 enough to blow up a tree as seen on endor by the same model of vehicle
@@krosskreut3463 incinerated, we saw that in the comics
Hey Allen, could you talk about the modern day war crimes committed by the various factions in Star Wars? I think it could help bring into view how dark the “good guys” are
hes done that plenty of times...specifically how shitty the Jedi really are, and how much collateral damage the Republic and Alliance cause to outer rim worlds
go back to the beginning of the channel.
Dom Vern Well, the rebels were terrorists, so...
You gotta do what you gotta do to get rid of em terrorist. I mean Merica blows up towns, and hospitals, and such in the name of "freedom" because they thought to be holding terrorist and weapons. So before you ask the question you just did, pay attention to what over 300M people call "good guys" and then ask the question. Fun fact captured terrorist are actually tortured in the U.S.A because they are not considered POWs because they are terrorist.
@@north7764 Are* that were could easily bring you in for an Imperial "rehabilitation" camp.
Johnny Anderson2 - Roblox Actually, it’s against the UN rules/regulations to bomb hospitals, religious facilities, and other special buildings. Also, the US would _never_ interrogate a prisoner on the mainland. They’d take them to CIA blacksites like Guantanamo Bay.
Would be nice if the imperials didn’t *always* lose. It would just add a dimension to SW
They won in ESB
Empire?
They should have just continued to make clones. They were clearly more effective at doing their Job.
@@darthzayexeet3653 Agreed. I thought also that too many died too easily in the mandalorian. It felt too easy for Mando and his band of rebels. The storm troopers should be able to hit stuff better and actually pose a serious threat.
@@darthpepo1 no they didn’t. No important leaders were lost during the Battle of Hoth and Luke and his friends still got away in the end.
I wish we'd get to see a more even mix of Stormtroopers to Imperial Army / Navy troopers in the future. Seeing the Stormtroopers all the time kinda diminishes their "super elite" status, makes them seem more and more like they're just the regular joes.
Not to mention when shows like Kenobi make a total mockery of them
The Imperial Army is based largely on Imperial-controlled worlds and are on the front lines against local insurrections and Rebel operations.
The Stormtrooper Corps operates on more of a galactic level, being able to conduct operations in diverse planetary conditions and environments. They're on the front lines of most major campaigns and battles.
3:16 Is that guy wearing a Vader helmet!?!?
Yup saddams brothers gave his irregulars Vader helmets
@@GenerationTech sons
Lol
Those helmets were issued to Saddam's irregular forces called the Fedayeen.
Okay, who let Todd Howard program Alan? This is clearly Bethesda levels of bugs.
It just works
"Finish the fight before tending to the wounded (unless a dedicated medic)" is SOP for most military's normal forces. Usually because it's a lot easier to tend to casualties when you're not being shot at and receiving even more casualties because you're not laying down suppressing fire.
Fun fact: Everything about the Empire being anti-alien has been retconned and is now Legends.
For all we know, some of those ST's are Devorians or Zabraks. Having aliens seems to be more of a budget issue as even in the rebel alliance aliens were rare. You never saw any aliens in the rebel alliance until Return of the Jedi and even in Rogue One you only saw one alien gunner, no alien pilots, and no alien infantry.
Randall Sanchez
Did you even see solo? There is literally an alien in disguise because he isnt allowed to join normally.
@@neomcdoom Due to their rarity in both the Empire AND Rebellion, the alien would stick out and be noticed. That's a bad thing if you're trying to work under cover. Heck even in the new Star Wars movies seeing aliens in the Resistance is rare.
Randall Sanchez
I think he says he can’t join because he’s an alien
Ackbar wants to know your location
Bro I’m rouge one there was infantry
It's nice to know that although Stormtroopers had their helmets monitored. They were still allowed to engage in small talk. Like talking about Skyhoppers in Rogue One and the B'omarr Monks in a New Hope.
I have always wondered how an alien such as ki adi mundi would fit into a stormtrooper suit.
This video has answered my life's ultimate question
Imperial Army: Can hit a target.
Stormtrooper: Can’t hit a target.
Unless it is unarmed, then they are super accurate. Even stone weapons are enough to effect their aim, hence why the Jawas were slaughtered and the Ewoks had BBQ.
If they hit a target every time that wouldn't any protagonist or any rebel soldiers alive so probably wouldn't be a story to talk about
They could hit all their targets on Tantive 4. I think anyone who fires at important characters has bad accuracy.
I’m pretty sure both can hit targets till plot armor shows up
@@veganhero1828 It is called plot armor. In the Star Wars universe, the characters are aware of this effect and refer to it as having the Force with you.
Can you make a video on the roles of different stormtrooper types? (Such as Deathtroopers, Shocktroopers, etc)
Here's a few:
Stormtrooper
Sandtrooper
Snowtrooper
Scout Trooper
Death Trooper
Shoretrooper
Patrol Trooper
Range Trooper
Incinerator Trooper
Dark Trooper (robot Stormtrooper)
Those are the canon ones I can remember. The old EU ones like the Shock Trooper aren't canon anymore.
Confirmed
Alan is not a Hologram
Possibility of being a high render model remains unconfirmed
7:32 you said the Storm Troopers were more like light infantry, it's actually the other way 'round. Their heavier armor and individual weaponry would make them a heavy infantry force despite the lack of vehicle support. The Imperial Army was more light infantry because of their kit and lighter armor. The inclusion of vehicles would make for a mechanized infantry force, be it light mechanized infantry (IA with vehicles) or heavy mechanized infantry (Storm Troopers with vehicles). Cheers! 😊
After watching a lot of his videos and then seeing him have his back facing us in the beginning of the video is so funny lol
Everyone: Empire's army is stormtroopers
Official information: No
Even though just about every movie and show and comic continues to contradict the official info. The Army Troopers were part of very early EU roleplaying stat stuff and the old EU barely used them. And despite them appearing for the first time in live-action in Solo, the new canon has also seen fit to mostly ignore them in favor of Stormtroopers. Stormtroopers can't be "the elite, used only for super mega special ops" if they're everywhere guarding every base, ship and podunk spaceport. Sometimes Star Wars' canon is problematic in that it doesn't reflect what we're actually shown. Either they need to start using Stormtroopers less, or revise their role as outlined in the official guide stuff.
@@williamhiers1280 makes sense
New Supervisor: So, how did you “wash out” of the Stormtrooper Corps?
Me: I hit my targets consistently.
You should have mentioned that this is the Canon version. In Legends, the Stormtrooper Corps was its own branch and stood directly under the Emperor. Stormtroopers were also much less common than in Canon, being the elite shock troopers, while Imperial Army troopers were the standard grunts. This makes sense because the Stormtrooper Corps evolved from the GAR, which was also much smaller than the numerous planetary defense forces which were united and centralized in order to create the Imperial Army. Btw, fun fact: You actually can see Imperial Army troopers in the OT. The guys commonly refered to as AT-ST pilots are infact Imperial Army troopers in their typical uniform, only lacking the body armor General Veers wears on Hoth.
Shoretroopers are easily the best looking troopers in Star Wars.
Correction: the tank driver on 7:36 is the best looking trooper
Sorry boys arc troopers, phase 2 Rex and deathtroopers exist
@@mybawzarerichie Introducing the Imperial Heavy Trooper
gun runner nah, Phase II Arc Troopers take that award
gun runner I think death troopers are
"Kill them Morthok their just clones!"
*pew!
"OH MY GOD SOMEONE CALL HIS WIFE AND KIDS!"
"Rixuk th..their n..not clones!"
"Their bureaucrats Morthok it was a figure of speech!"
"Holodramas" I've never heard that term to describe a SW film before
2:35 was the point I wrote off Solo as a Star Wars movie and looked at it as just a SW-themed heist flick. Han was a naval officer, not an infantryman. He was courtmartialed after questioning his ship's CO. EU lives!!
"Welcome BACK". Good one, alan.
Blink twice if the spacedolphins have taken you hostage!
The real Alan must be locked up in Area 51
Then the mission has changed from "raid" to "rescue"
@@ariesstorm9577 The bois will not rescue him.
They're all focused with aliens and female cat/dog-humans.
As you said, Stormtroopers & Army Troopers are not comparable with US Marines & Army. A better comparison comes to mind with Soviet Shock Troopers & Line Infantry (Strelky and Guards) in the Great Patriotic War, or with German Stosstruppen & Landsers, Austrian JägerKommandos & Landwehr or Italian Arditi with the Line Infantry in the Great War. Is not their elite qualification, is their doctrine: Elite light Infantry specially equipped with short weapons and body armor, trained in infiltration doctrine for assaults, rapid deployment and fast movements, acting as spearhead for an Army's offensive.
In a US context, a better comparison will be Rangers & Regulars.
Great video as always
"Great Patriotic War" is hilarious. There was nothing patriotic about it as Stalin only used it for propaganda to get the Soviet people to fight harder. In reality, it was going to be a war about spreading Bolshevism and Stalin's power.
@@MrHogGamer and the Hundred Years War lasted more than a Hundred Years, if you want exact and scientific war names, you were born in the wrong species.
Im agreeing with BAZGOTH , it was just commie propaganda . also that's a horrible comparison , ww2 was around 70 years ago and the hundred years war was more like 700 lol.
The Guard status was awarded to the units of Soviet Army after they distinguished themselves in service. Basically any unit could have become a Guard unit.
Just point out facts. You can keep getting mad about it.
I'm quite glad that you presented accurate information instead of painting the Stormtroopers as useless cannon fodder like so many others do.
I was sure we bombed the Dolphin's base of operations! I was absolutely sure!
Perhaps some type of substitution jutsu or an ordnance issue. Time to call in snake plisken.
This is one of my main issues with star wars since forever... the lore says stormtroopers are competent. Then any mainstream media shows them as incompetent cannon fodder.
I really like the empire but man they are never depicted well outside the expanded lore
Well they are the bad guys and bad guy especially henchmen 101 they get beaten by the heroes (mainly main characters) which includes missing shots (which happens to many other villains no matter how "trained" they are)
Great analysis! I would have also cited the political factors that affected Imperial deployments - for instance key Imperial officials & officers were much more likely to have stormtroopers as bodyguards; as sign of the favor by the Emperor, and as part the various pissing contests that went on between the various Moffs, Grand Moffs, Grand Admirals, and such that made Imperial bureaucracy such a...vigorous...endeavor.
The being heavily monitored part might explain why storm troopers aren't allowed to remove their helmets. Really enjoying this vid.
Can you make a video on the hierarchy of power in the Empire?
Emperor
Vader
(Any black project or sith special forces not officially in the military or listed)
Grand Moff
Regional Moffs
Planetary Governers
Grand Admirals (military but equal influence to a Moff)
Fleet Admirals
Star Destroyer Captains (Individual)
Everything else not worth mentioning
Weren't there also physical requirements for Storm Troopers so that the armor would not have to come in multiple sizes, easing logistics? After all, Luke is a little short to be a Storm Trooper.
I see it different:
Imperial Army - ground forces for conventional battles (assault on enemy, war in the trenches, using flyging machines, tanks etc.)
Stormtroopers - not only soldiers, also law enforcement force and police itself also for keeping order and identyfying suspects - more police force than military force.
So it's like the Imperial Guard from Warhammer 40k. The massive amounts of Imperial Guardsman are more widely deployed and use, arguably serving the backbone of Imperium Manpower, but we always manage to see Astartes-- Space marines. Those who are used for the toughest of battles, to intervene when things are the most grim.
Amazing backstory on the Imperial Military. But now that I know Stormtroopers got elite training, it makes it even more perplexing that they were such bad shots.
I wish the Imperial Army was more commonly explored
Given that George Lucas modelled the Imperial military a great deal on the Nazi military i'd say that Imperial Army troopers were equivalent to the Wehrmarkt and the Stormtroopers to the SS.
The SS weren't as well trained as the infantry of the Wehrmacht, but the blitzkrieg experts of the German military (called Sturmtruppen or stormtroopers) were shock infantry and some of the main carriers of the blitzkrieg so it hunk that they would be more ideal
I feel like the writers determine how Stormtroopers are shown. Sometimes they're space cops who are mostly just fodder or kids trying to get through school, other times they're like SAS commandos, but other times shock troops bulking out numbers while the better units like Death Troopers, ISB agents, Dark Troopers, Inquisitors, Imperial Officers, Shadow Troopers, Evo Troopers Shock Troopers Terror Troopers or Range Troopers do the real hard work.
I always viewed as like the Samurai and the Ashugaru. A Samurai trained his entire life in the arts of war but of course they were very limited in numbers so you couldn't simply waste their skills, so you had the Ashugaru foot soldiers given very basic training to essentially bolster forces as essentially expendable cheap muscle. So you had a balance between quality and quantity
And while yeah a Samurai is a better soldier then a storm trooper I found it a good over all comparison. As the idea of a Stormtrooper is a being souly dedicated to fighting wars.
Thank you. Most of the time when I click one of your videos they are like gold panning through all the excess fluff for maybe a minute of the information the title offers to provide. In this case though, on subject, no rambling, very informational. Thank you.
Those Vader helmets that the Saddam Fedayeen wore are hilarious.
They were also made of basically plastic
I pretty much knew this stuff already, but I love star wars lore videos and fillers. Thank you for the video, very good job, and very informative.
Man if you think about how brutal the stormtrooper corp training was imagine being a death trooper or some other special forces
This explains why iden versio as a special forces stormtrooper seems so much more battle hardened compared to her fellow inferno squad members
Generation Tech: “These edibles ain’t nothing”
*Generation Tech in the first minute*:
Technically Star Wars version of between wehrmacht and the waffen schutzstaffel.
Plus seeing alan like this.. the bloody dolphins had made the 1st move. Time to depth charge the living F out of em..
That comparison makes sense further if you know that the Wehrmacht and Galactic Empire's Army & Navy all wore gray uniforms outside of combat, whereas the Schutzstaffel and Galactic Empire Stormtroopers wore black uniforms outside of combat.
Except outside of a few W-SS units the Heer was largely better equipped and trained. Especially early in the war.
@@PsychoticSorcerer666 weren't they labeled the brown shirts
@@anarchomando7707 The Sturmabteilung (SA) were the brownshirts. The SS used Brown shirts and black pants at first as a nod to the SA after the SA was disbanded, but later the SS started using all-black uniforms to appear more intimidating.
@@PsychoticSorcerer666 that explains it sorry
I see it from different point of view. The imperial soldiers we see in Rogue one should be taken as Auxilliary units. Like you said, conscripts recruited from rabble. Worthy only for guarding the rear, flanks, or already taken areas. Not as the main, most numerous army.
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We really should've seen Imperial Army units in other expanded materials (both Legends and Canon) as they would've far better fodder villain goons than the Stormtroopers. The Stormtroopers are supposed to be Elite units, but because from a story perspective they're treated like the main fighting force of the Empire, they also suffer the most amount of defeats and thus lose any real respect from the audience. Using the IAT's instead would've fixed that issue.
They are in books and comics occasionally, but really they are most common in role playing games which most people don't play. The RPGs like "Edge of the Empire" and "Age of Rebellion" offer tons of detail about the Empire and its military, and Imperial Army is the most common empire soldier in those games. Stormtroopers are treated like mid level enemies that you usually don't face until you are a bit more leveled up.
@@Clumsy-vp3if Now that makes a lot more sense.
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The Empire wasn't anti-alien. Alien stormtroopers definitely existed. I can't recall the exact details, but I believe at first they were a bit more selective so they didn't need different armor sizes. Eventually they even expanded the corps to allow aliens of various shapes and sizes.
Uh.. it's been pretty solid canon for ages that the Empire, at least during Palpatine's period, was pretty humanocentric. Maybe you're thinking of the Imperial Remnant era, or the Empire of The Hand, which both had alien Stormies?
@@rclipse1985 Yeah, I think I was misremembering some old lore I heard. Are those other groups from the KOTOR time, I need to brush up on that. Old Sith seem way cooler.
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I like how you said the Imperial Stormtroopers aren't Marines, the proceed to explain in great detail how they performed the exact jobs of modern Marines.
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, you can call it an Imperial Marine.
I literally just realized that the Marine recruiter shown here is Sgt. Leifeight. I served with him in 3rd Battalion 5th Marines Kilo Co back in 2012-13. Good dude.
So the big question is
Would imperial army have the accuracy to actually kill Luke's family
Mr MacGuffin most likely it just wouldn’t be as quick
I’d like to see a small series about your ideal fleet, army, even squad breakdown for each era and from a mix of each. Or even how you would defend a planet in Star Wars.
tbh this is such a stupid retcon. Not because the concept is bad, but because it's too late.
Yeah. The concept of the Imperial Army have its own distinct troops like the Navy was a nice idea, but except for Solo, all we ever see are Stormtroopers (to the point where they're even replacing Navy Troopers as security aboard Imperial ships!).
Why can't I find any comments mentioning the host facing the wrong way talking to a wall at the beginning?!
Imperial Trooper looked like the HelGhast Shock Trooper from KillZone
The helghast was the good guys tho
@@Typhoon820 They certainly didn't see that though. *cleans my thumbs of their eyeball juices*
Shame can't play as them in killzone
@@Typhoon820 nobody were the good guys in killzone. Just two different shades of evil.
@@ragemonkey117 not really, ISA invaded Vekta and the Helgans were just trying to retake it in Killzone 1. ISA were invading Helgan in Killzone 2 and 3 lol.
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Just so you know my friend, the difference between Marines and the Army is that the primary purpose of Marines is to be an invasion force. The army is more of a defense and occupation force.
They both do a bit of both but typically Marines are used for invasions because of their amphibious training.
You nailed it
Just woke up and didn't had my glasses on so I thought it said Stormtroopers vs Imperial Guard. Great video btw
All human factions we need to defeat the dolphins.
Imperium of man, UNSC, And Galactic Empire team up and take the fight to the dolphins
The true villain is Aquaman
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I know Death Troopers were part of ISB but they *were* the de-facto Special Forces variant of the Stormtrooper.
Will u make Imperial Army vs US Army video about both sides' training styles, philosophy, equipment (include weapons) and combat tactics if against each other in the future?
@c t maybe
Cool
Its pretty obvious. The US army is much more concentrated on making their soldiers more relaxed and keeping a stable psyche. The equipment is pretty obvious, except with rifles they are designed to be used semi auto most of the time with engagement being on average 150m and oneshot affairs. Imperial storm troopers would use their rifle as an SMG probably and would use it normally within 10 meters or something. Since storm troopers are just a movie army, US troopers would have more advanced and reasonable tactics
When do they teach the storm troopers to shoot?
I think they should have skipped introducing the army troopers... based on the original movies it always seemed that the Stormtroopers was the army or groundforces of the empire similar to the clones before them.
"just clones"
they weren't "just" clones, they were clones of mandalorians.
it wasnt till they changed the cloning regulations did storm troopers become trash
Stormtroopers were alleged to be fearsome and elite troops, it's just that having this fact and displaying it in a movie makes it harder to develop a good battle scene.
@@bluntcabbage6042 actually it's not, you just have to show the stormtroopers winning battles, unfortunately most star wars producers are pro rebellion
3am posting? Im here for it
Ahem (Cough) i need one of my voices for this, ah, Annoying Timmy voice: How do we know your not an Imperial Recruiter, Ho?
I like how he sometimes just does something silly and random in the beginning. Nice touch
So the Stormtroopers are like the Waffen-SS and the Imperial Troopers are like the Wehrmacht.
No the correct term would be Heer which means army. Wehrmacht means Armed Forces which consisted of the Heer, Kreigsmarine and Luftwaffe.
The Communist Doggo Heer is the name of the modern German militaries Army, Wehrmacht is what the army was known as during WWII
@@TheDeathOmen yeah but the heer was still the actual military name just the Luftwaffe is still the modern German air force
@@TheDeathOmen nah m8, the equivalent of the Wehrmacht would be Bundeswehr, wich lets itself categorize in Luftwaffe, Heer and Marine
Everbodys angst until they remember early stormtroopers had better aim then later renditions.
This is getting more werid over time. I kinda like it.
Whoever directed Solo should make a WW1 movie change my mind
But do they eat crayons
Lol only servicemen would get this joke 😂
Stormtrooper : who are you ?
Imperial Soldier : I am you but less iconic
I wish too become a Colonel, in the Stormtrooper Corps...Frickin outstanding...HOOWAHH!!
Join the inperial gu-I mean inperial stormtrooper today. Cough cough
The Marine Recruiter you used is in my Battalion which is insane.
HI ALANS BACK :)