#12: Raymond L.S. Patriarca: New England Mafia Boss (Part Two)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In today’s episode, the second of a two-part series, we’re finally branching outside of New York to cover Raymond L.S. Patriarca, one of the most feared and respected bosses in the history of the American Cosa Nostra.
Raimondo "Raymond" Loredo Salvatore Patriarca was boss over the New England area for over 30 years (1952-1984). Basing his family's operations in Providence, Rhode Island, Patriarca was one of the most feared and respected bosses in the history of the American Cosa Nostra. He ruled over the New England area including Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, etc. with an iron fist for more than three decades as the namesake of what is still known even today as the Patriarca crime family.
By most accounts, Ray Patriarca was one of the most ruthless and effective bosses, be it inside or outside of New York, in the entire country. In fact, legend has it that he allegedly even once ordered a solider to murder his own son.
So when I say ruthless, I mean about as heartless as they come. Even still, his men respected him, he was viewed as a good and fair leader, and due to that he was able to exert control not just Rhode Island but on the entirety of New England.
In this episode, we'll specifically discuss:
-When he takes over as boss in 1952
-His reputed presence at Apalachin
-Senate Hearings of late 1950's
-Mediation of the Gallo/Profaci Family War
-Discussions around the Bonnano Family War
-The Valachi Hearings
-Joseph "The Animal" Barboza
-His 1960s murder conspiracy conviction
-His other murder cases in the early 1980's
-His alleged involvement in the Bonded Vault Heist
-His death in 1984
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When patriarca died Paul Castellano was spotted at the cemetery days after the funeral, by the FBI, seeing Big Paul was o trial and didn't want to be seen at the service and Burial. This Guy was RESPECTED! All over the country.
I've heard that. Everyone respected the hell out of Raymond.
but he didn't go to Neil's services during or after because he was on trial. that was his underboss!
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@@GuidoLuzziI understand why he didn't go too much heat and to be seen their would of looked bad. It also looked bad that he wasn't there tho.
Cracks Me up...Joe Barboza is a Scumbag...And All The Rest Of Killers...Are not....What THE!!!!!
Great job!
I was born on Federal Hill in 1965, I remember him well, everyone had a connection to Raymond or someone in his crew, it was a great time to be in that area!
Thank you for watching!
After the Gallo brothers had taken on their boss.
What was ray like
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcastI'm from Detroit is it possible for you to do one on the combination or the partnership thats the names that were referred to them
I was born in Providence 1980. I always wish I was a generation earlier(1950 or so)…city was all Italian
I consider myself a real Mafia buff and you have lots of info and pics I have never heard or seen. You are doing an amazing job providing the history of the American mafia. You have real integrity in your information and thank goodness you cover unknown topics instead of retreads of what we all already know (Gotti for instance has been overdone). Kudos and big thumbs up.
Thank you! I also consider myself to know quite a bit, but with each episode I've learned a lot that I didn't previously know. Trying to dig to find the little tidbits for each topic and person I research.
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no such thing as the mafia. mafia is an acronym in italy that meant "get the french out"
Perhaps an episode on Frank "Bo Bo" Marrapese of Providence Patriarca Family. His story is so fascinating. A one man crew. He answered directly to Raymond L.S. No Capo. He was a serious soldier with murderous inclinations Look him up. Serious gangster
I'd like to cover Frank Marrapese as well as Gerard “The Frenchman” Ouimette in a future episode.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast Theres another criminal legend named Freddy Bishop. He is legendary. He once punched a policeman saying "Thats for being a cop" In the movie "Vault" they show Gerard the French or Raymond (I forget) with a pet goat in prison. It was really Freddy Bishop. He ran the north side of Maximum Security all the white guys. True story. I have so much info on him if your interested. He's a friend of mine. So wasn't Bo Bo. Freddy was a soldier in a sense to Raymond L.S.. He is Irish. Another guy who was down with The Fernchman. This guy was acquitted in the Bonded Vault case
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast my grandfather used to talk about Ouimette and his brother when I was young..your doing a really good job. The worse c4iminals were the fbi in NE lol..I would like to see something about thw Genevesse hierarchy shuffle especially in 70s and 80s u did great Mike Miranda, but would like to see Phil Lombardo to Gigante the behind the scenes rulers and how they really worked who was front or underboss Tieri, Salerno, Zicarddi ect. Did Salerno have more power from 75- 81 as underboss? Or in 81-85 as acting boss ect. Again love the show
I used to know BoBo's cousin. She was a sweetheart of a lady. Used to wait tables at Antonio's on Cranston
I find it interesting that the Patriarca crime family had two Underbosses Henry Tameleo in Providence and Jerry Angelo in Boston
My guess is that when Tameleo went to prison for a long stretch beginning in the 60's he was likely inactive, at which point Angiulo took over officially since he was still on the street. Maybe it was a situation of 'official' versus 'acting,' but I didn't see that distinction in my research.
I think that this is the best channel on the mafia topic.
Great job.
Thank you
Absolutely brilliant content , would love lots of these for all the families around the US , heard everything about New York’s 5 families, these are much more interesting
100% agree
Thank you! Looking to balance NYC coverage with that of other areas. Thinking of doing something on the Smaldone's out in Denver of the families in Cleveland and/or Youngstown soon (since they are closest to me geographically speaking).
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast please do that.
Excellent! I’m glad I had an impact on your last video! Woostah👍😆💯 excellent video fratello
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Thanks for profiling Mr. Patriarca and his formative and eventful reign of this little-known borgatta. Especially appreciate the manner in which you underscore the Bureau's dependence on unscrupulous informants who themselves lacked the mettle to make in the Life. And, yeah, when you get a chance, take in a few of those online Italian language lessons!
I appreciate the kind words Raymond and yes, pronunciation is a work in progress. I appreciate you being kinder than most when pointing it out. After my very bad Worcester faux pas, I've realized that before I record watching some of the online pronunciation tutorials for various things is helpful.
And yes, there were very clear issues with FBI complicity and some downright despicable behavior that they knew about, and/or were guilty of.
Great video really enjoyed this one always looking forward to the next👍🏻
Thank you Rick!
bro i thought this was a ten minute video that was 50 mins ago 🤣🤣🤣, great work wish you all the best
Thank you so much!
In the 90’s, my friend (whose mother was Rita’s hairdresser) and I used to landscape Rita Patriarca’s home on Golini Dr. in Johnston RI. We also did some work at a second home they owned in South Kingstown, and in a garage on that property was a black Lincoln that Raymond used to be driven around in before his death. We sat in that car and imagined the conversations or “business” that was conducted in it. Rita was always very nice to us, offering a cold drink and tipping us well whenever we did work for her.
That's an amazing story Bob! Hope you enjoyed the video. If there are more stories, I'm certainly interested.
I would love to see a documentary on E.BOSTON . organize crime was very out of control in 60s -80s
You got the names right, I been associated with this family, since I was 7, I am now 70, vinne Terasa was the made guy ot captain in Brighton /Allston area/ big bar area, ran out of the Linden Cafe on the corner of Brighton Ave and Linden St. it's still there, nice guy.
I'm sure there are some great stories there!
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast HAHAHA! Correction North Beacon and Linden, e-Mail any time for facts only,
Love watching your show, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Could we get a video on Jerry Catena in the future? Your level of research would definitely shine a light on this guy.
Some day I will do a video on Catena for sure.
Great video can’t believe it Went by so fast he did a great job
Thank you!
Good job on research and presentation
Thank you
Would love for you to cover the Cleveland mob and the war in Cleveland too. Cleveland was so important, was one of the early Families that was on the commission and held a major say so on commission issues, also some interesting individuals that were In the family.
I'm an Ohio guy so it's safe to say I'll be covering Cleveland at some point
Blows my mind that high profile Boston attorney was F. Lee Bailey was Barbara's lawyer.
Man ! Glad i found this channel. Its better than " SitDown podcast. This channel shows more pics and crime scences. Hell yea im gonna suscribe. Good job dude ! Congragulations .
Thanks for watching RM! I appreciate the kind words. I honestly really like Jeff Nadu's podcast as well, and he certainly produces content more regularly than I do.
I've read over a hundred books on organized crime, especially LCN! Im from CT. This guy's okay by me.Good job bro! Dude diligence is key! Nicely done 👍.
Thank you!
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There was a car bombing at Ollie's Omlets at Dean and Atwells. Things got quiet after that. Ray collected yes but also opened doors of bureaucrats to residents and business owners. New pavement, parking, and sidewalks were ongoing projects to make it better for business. My family owned a cigar store, meat market, and restaurant at Dutton and Atwells until the mid 90's.
I'm sure you have some amazing stories. Thank you for watching and commenting!
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Lmao I remember that bombing the guy just opened he was from Italy Raymond sent over Henry to tell him how things worked that he had to pay protection to Raymond the guy was a hot head he said I no pay no buddy .
Sunday morning the place blew up his oven was sitting in the middle of Atwell and De Pasquale..
He Jump on the first plan and went back to italy
To answer your question, Genaro was viscious. He would order someone wacked in a New York second. He also went into business and befriended the Hells Angels which secured his stronghold in Massachusetts. He was a “weak” boss by no means!
Thank you for the context Jimmy! At some point I'd like to do a show on the Angiulo brothers (which may change my thought process).
Keep up the great work J! Go WooTown!
Surprised there was no mention of Buddy Cianci along the way in the final act. He started his storied and colorful political career by trying to prosecute Patriarca. He could warrant two episodes himself....
You're right! Buddy Cianci was surely a character, and I probably should have at least referenced him in passing as he handled the big trial against Patriarca in 1972. That said, Cianci probably deserves an episode all to himself at some point, but I didn't want to derail the focus here from Raymond.
Really interesting info here I haven't heard anywhere else. My grandfather grew up on Federal Hill from the 1940's to 1960's and told me a couple stories of things he heard and saw as a child, I should send this to him and see what he has to say about it.
I'd welcome his feedback! Just tell him to go easy on me with the pronunciation. :-)
Your Grandfather and my grandfather likely knew each other. My great grandparents were friends with the Srs.
Great Video! The amount of detail is amazing.
Thank you!
I always wanted to see a movie or series on Raymond but never knew what documentation was out there to support a telling of his story. Then I came across your Patriarca content. Great job in backing up your reporting with documentation
Scandalous Squadron
Barboza thestifying reminded me of Cicci hearing in Godfather II, they really look similar. Probably, just a coincidence, but still.
Honestly, that's probably where Coppola drew a lot of the inspiration from. If you look at the timeline, Barboza testifies in front of Congress around 1972 and GFII was filmed around 1973. Also of course there are parallels with the Valachi hearings as well.
I don’t think Angiulo “bought” his way in so much as he was an incredible earner and a criminal.
Not everyone in the mob was a killer.
And the NE mob had boatloads of killers.
Angiulo was powerful and capable.
Rising to underboss and eventually boss.
Saying he “bought” his way in might be too simplistic.
Although if he couldn’t earn I doubt he’d have been as respected by Patriarca.👍🥃
Cool video.
Would absolutely love a piece being done on Don Anthony 'Tony G' Giordano &/or The Giordano Crime Family of St. Louis that bore his name!
I've added them to my list of upcoming shows. My goal is to spend time on some of the lesser known families in the near future including St. Louis/Kansas City, Denver/Pueblo, San Diego, San Francisco, Milwaukee, etc. Thank you for watching!
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast Awesome! And ty so much! This is the kinda thing, pieces on the other families in America... Not just NYC, Jersey, & Philly! And as an aside... You'll find an old St. Louis Globe-Democrat article, or perhaps it was the St. Louis Post-Dispatch(?)... Regardless, you'll find that Giordano was apparently put in charge, by The Commission, of all Cosa Nostra activities in Colorado. And that included the older, Capone-era family, The Smaldone Family outta Pueblo/Denver! He was a very powerful man! Had strong ties w/not only the KC Civellas &.The Outfit, but also w/The Detroit Partnership!
Gerry Angulio,was a mathematical genius, along with his brothers. Big on gambling (so I heard).big earners. Thanks Bearhunter5
Gerry was a WW2 Vet. He operated a Higgins boat and transported GI's from ship to shore repetitively. Did I mention he did this on 6Jun44 D-Day......
Ayyyyy…. It took a mid westerner to tell me about the Hill
This Midwesterner took a lot of heat for pronouncing Worcester wrong, but I hope you enjoyed the rest of the episode. It was certainly fascinating to research in-depth.
I doubt Henry Tameleo was a member of the Bonanno family and the New England family at the same time. It is known that transfers were made where a member of one family was allowed to switch to another. I would say that is probably the reality of it.
You’re wrong about Jerry. He was extremely feared. Still respected to this day; from the grave
Perhaps I am wrong, but from my research it seems that the Angiulo's were fairly polarizing figures. I've received and observed comments on both sides of the fence with respect to the brothers.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast wrong is a strong word. I’m sorry. But he was made underboss over Larry for a reason.
This was very good.
Thank you
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast if you haven’t already check out Vito Rizzuto & the rizzuto crime family
Great video 👍
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Great work
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Fantastic!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
I know HENRY TAMELIO FROM NORFOLK PENAL COLONY MASSACHUSETTS. 1978. He was friends with my dad and uncles TONY AND YOGI BRAZZO. I was sentenced to 6yrs 1day. I was 24yrs old. I had no problems with anyone. Thanks to MR TAMELIO(aka) THE BEAR.
Any stories from meeting him?
Angelou might have been weak, but he was an earner and Patriarca protected him.
I use to work with Ray jr.s ex wife Linda Levy . We worked at the horse tracks in New England and New Jersey .. nice lady extremely intelligent. She also had some good stories
Would love to hear some of those stories Danny! Thank you for watching.
I would love to hear those stories.
Jerry was A HUGE EARNER...
This is what I have found! Thank you for watching and providing additional context.
As for Raymond and the legend that he once ordered his son Junior to be whacked, That is incorrect. I grew up on The Hill and know all the legend and rumors. The story or legend is that he ordered his own brother to be killed. Raymond loved his son greatly. I love this Patriarca stuff. He was the real deal. New York would actually have Raymond mediate family beefs. His power and respect was such that his word was final. Nice that Lucky and those that succeeded him always were patrons to the Patriarca family and strengthened them further
I see that you added the hit on his brother Joe. As for the hit on Junior.... never
It was his brother Joseph that I cited in the episode
If remember the cigarette heist correctly, he demanded the money back because the associates guaranteed the delivery. It was honor the deal or wind up in a vendor cart outside Fenway mixed into peppers and onions. You really don't ask how the sausage is made.
Great videos about Raymond patriarca. How about a video about Boston mobsters Buddy mclean and Steven Flemmi?
Thank you Fishwick! I do want to cover the Boston wing of the Patriarca family. Probably first the Angiulo's, but eventually the Patriarca war in the 1980's. The McLean war in the 60's was certainly interesting as well, as are the Bulger and Flemmi stories which crossover with the Patriarca's quite a bit. That said, for the time being my plan is to stick with the Italian mob and only touch on outside groups occasionally. However, that may change at some point when I've knocked out more episodes.
I just discovered your channel, and was glad to see Raymond Patriarca featured. If you haven't read it already, I recommend "Boston Mob", by Marc Songini. It delves deeply into many of those you mentioned. Also, if you've not given it a listen, check out the podcast "Crimetown"; it looks closely at crime in Providence of both the political and organized varieties.
Thank you Rick! Raymond is a legend in the world of the mob, and his story was certainly one I enjoyed digging into. I haven't read Marc's book, but I'll have to put it on my list. As for the Crimetown podcast, I've listened to it probably 3 times (I also love Crooked City Youngstown), and it's so good it makes me jealous.
@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast I forgot all about "Crooked City Youngstown"! Man, that was a good one!! Youngstown's history is so rich, and its location between two hubs of organized crime meant a lot went down in that small town. I was surprised to learn that Ed O'Neil (from "Married With Children" and "Modern Family") is a Youngstown native!
If I'm not mistaken, Russell Buffalino's influence was felt in Youngstown, too. Do you have any plans on researching his reign?
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Dude I like your videos. Great video about him man! This Will help me with my documentary I am making about the mafia! Is there a certain website you use to find all this info?
I use FOIA requests, newspaper archives, books, genealogy sites, etc.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast thanks for the tips! Keep it up you got a great show!
I also know as a young child and spent many times. Including vacations with Frank "Butsey" Morelli in Manomet, MA. We would go to Chez Joey's ownes by Joey Palladino. Frank died the summer before I was in 5th grade. Frank and my father were b ery close.
Thank you for watching Bob and also thank you for sharing the few stories! You have some very interesting connections for sure. The mention of Chez Joey's reminds me of the club in A Bronx Tale (which I believe was called the Chez Bippy).
Only in RI will a Rep call an assault "catching a beating"!!!!! Love from Pawtucket!
Yes, I found that verbiage interesting for sure. Thank you for watching!
All the bosses sold buttons. Jerry was respected, his brother Danny was a tough bastard & Stone cold killer. Ray saw Jerry was a great organizer & earner. Jerry was a decorated WW2 vet, so he may not have been a " tough guy " per se but he wasn't a sissy.
Thank you for the context
I can remember my dad and his brother TONY would say we’re going to see the old man meaning Patriaca on federal hill. The Italian flag 🇮🇹 color was everywhere. My dad would take me into the arcade to play pinball machines . Uncle TONY would exit the office and we returned to Boston. I was 14 then. Later in yrs after TONY and YOGI were whacked for skimming from the night club called the SURF LOUNGE in REVERE MASS.
That is an interesting story for sure! Thank you for sharing.
So you got inside the office?
Prince st in the North End also called tbe office. Took rides there weekly as a kid to drop/pick up with my uncles.
I'm sure you have some interesting stories!
Uncle Ray awarded loyalty and always kept his word.
You mean REWARDED. Did he appoint loyalty like a medal or something? Same same, but different.
Thanks for your research well done , growing up in Rhode Island, it was widly known that the Mafia ran the state in all aspects from Politicians , all state construction, unions etc…. It was just normal to know a guy who knows a guy lol , St Joseph’s day on Federal Hill is to this day a huge festival of Italian heritage and cuisine, The infamous Mayor Buddy Cianci has a book called the Prince of Providence, No one dared to mess with Ray the boss of bosses, He was feared and respected by the 5 families, 🌎
Thank you Frank! I'm glad you enjoyed the episode. I'm sure growing up in Rhode Island, you probably have a lot of stories and overlap with many of the people in the life. If you haven't seen the podcast, Crimetown, it's a really good one and covers Providence very well including Buddy Cianci.
That first picture you have of him wth the cig hanging out his mouth, is right infront of the Providence Superior Court House on Main st. I can tell them Pillars from anywhere. Spent some time in that building myself lol
There are a lot of pictures with him, but that one in particular is probably the best and most legendary.
ALSO, theres LOTS of ppl who bought their buttons. All over the country, in every family.
He was made so that the Boston crew couldn't shake him down any longer. Also, being made by Patriarca prevented any accidents to him. We're talking serious money. It was an administrative move to protect the cash flow.
Very interesting for sure. I just wondered if anyone had a harder time respecting him knowing he bought his way in. And of course there are the supposed "rules."
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast they probably did but wouldn't dare open their mouths. Keep in mind as well that there was a problem going on in Boston. Italian crews were getting exposed by Bulger but no one knew how it was happening. Ray protected his interest. It (Bulger) presented a more clear and present danger to overall business operations.
These are very solid points David! I started to tackle the Irish component and the Whitey Bulger stuff and then realized it was too big a can of worms for this episode and cut it out. That may be a future show.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast my mother's cousin's husband (yeah, it's an Italian thing) was Whitey Conroy, Bulger's safecracker and second story man. The New England family was really just an extension of New York. It's roots go back to prohibition when booze was moved out of Canada through Maine and waters off Nova Scotia. New Jersey was pretty much the same. I met Ray a few times as a kid. He was good friends with my great uncle. He used to give me $5. A fortune as a kid. Tribute wasn't always cash for him. My uncle would deliver a nice rib roast to him at Christmas. Prepare a few pounds of tripe once in a while. It was a tight community. Three churches. One on each end and one in the middle. All full on Sunday. Ray attended lots of wakes and funerals. He sent "il posto" (the seat), a cash donation, to a widow to get her stable and then get the mayor to expedite benefits. His payment was Omerta. It's how we lived. When you weigh it against crooked and lying politicians, it was a better system in many ways. If you were a civilian, you needn't worry. Arlene Violet was a douche. Many shop owners played the ponies at either of the two tracks and lost big to the books and got beat up. Ray didn't shit where he literally ate. If someone had a down week at a store they simply paid what they could. He respected the tribute and effort. He was a monster among monsters but good in the neighborhood.
@@davidaidala6605 you have a great deal of knowledge, my friend. Have you ever considered starting your own podcast? I'd listen to it.
My great grandparents grew up with Ray Sr and my grandparents Junior. Cousins to the Nicolettis, the Furtaw and Brophy's.
I'm certain you have some amazing stories!
In answer to you question, the idea that Jerry never clipped anyone is foolish, Ray sent Larry Bione/Illario Zannio to lean on Jerry, there were two sides to the family, Jerry's area was limited and ended at Huntington and south Huntington avenue at that corner was the dividing line, from there clear through Hyde Parks was run from the office/federal hill not in Town, The price was a hundred Thousand to save his life, and millions a year after that. As for drugs there was a rule if you gave Ray drug money, you were dead, nobody did that, Ray passed on millions on drugs.
I don't think I was questioning if he clipped anyone, I was questioning the idea of letting someone who was supposedly weak and had to pay their way in to get protection. I would generally think the family would want guys who are perceived as being strong.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast Jerry had four brothers, all capable guys but Mikey, Danny was a wrecking crew and a half, Jerry was a navy Veteran, he was not a guy to push around unless you were Ray. On Henry being in two families, that's not uncommon, but it was a favor to uncle Frank that got Henry here for Joe Bonnano, Ray told the Commission no; when the request first came, Frank and Ray were very close, back in the late 60's there were a ton of veterans and old duffle bags, I moved money back and forth in those bags between both, who I knew all my life, most the extraosseous is conjecture, the facts right, no we don't want anything, but get the stuff right if you can, you did a good job, your not expected to know. thanks for your time Bostonruclips.net/video/V_RXge3nNgg/видео.html&pp=sAQB
Kudos on the correction. I have family ties to the mafia in east boston
Thank you for noticing! I'm sure you have some interesting stories.
wow man u dig deep, ive read so many mob books. great stuff.
Thank you so much for watching!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
‘Crime Town’ season one podcast tells the tale in the actual players own words. 😎
I listened to the podcast after I released the episodes and I have to say that I was instantly hooked. Their style of story-telling and the production value are top-notch, and I can only aspire to be half as good as they are. I highly recommend Crooked City as well. It was created by the same production group and shares the story of the Youngstown Mob.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast I appreciate the response my friend. I enjoyed your presentation very much as I am very familiar with ‘The Hill’ and everything that went down..being from the area. You were concise and to the point.😎
There more than one way to get in a family. A while ago a columbo mobster was caught saying that the Genovese family or had w to kill somebody in order to be initiated but by the Colombo saying that it referred that other families did not make the members kill
Would love to see a full history of Dallas mafia information.
Because Ray was only next to (not second to) Carlo Gambino. Ray was second to no one. Ray was man. You will never find a more powerful boss. Carlo And Ray top all. Anyone who knows this thing knows ray carried weight. Russel carried the same weight but it was a few years later. Tony in Chicago had rays back. NewYork couldnt do shit.
Amazing how so many people were privy to LCN in the 50’s - 80’s. How many people are alive today that had Raymond’s ear on the commission and who did he exactly tell that New York was nothing and he was Carlo Gambino’s equal? I can think of maybe one or two guys one is about 95 or 96 and doesn’t live in the state anymore, and he would not have shared that with every Tom, Dick and Harry.
Good video my friend
I'd like to see something like this on the boss of Tampa Florida Santo Trafficante..
All in good time! In the meantime, I highly recommend the book Havana Nocturne by T.J. English. Santa is in there quite a bit.
1) the boss is the boss 2) Gerry had brothers who did lots of work. Gerry was a math genius.
Good to know! It just didn't make sense to me, and I know a lot of my listeners know some things I don't.
Maurice Pro Lerner not Werner (Castro plot true story. Pro was gonna utilize "Frogman" style scuba assault
Yep, I did say Werner. Sorry about that miscue. Lots to fix going forward.
Doing an episode entirely on him next.
If You get a Chance try to do a piece on the frenchman Gerad Oumette He was part of Raymonds Crew ,,Look Him up ,,
Hi Frank! Yes, eventually I think I'll have to cover "The Frenchman."
IMO, the reason he had Angulo as underboss is because it was someone who wouldn't challenge him in or out of prison, plus he was a huge earner
That is a good point Brian.
The FBI corrupt?!?!? Goodness gracious, Melanie Fallacious, bring me my smelling salts!!!
Well resaearched.
Thank you
much safter !!!!
This is a pretty common sentiment from what I have heard from those who lived in the neighborhood during Patriarca's time.
You should do a video on Youngstown
I absolutely want to, along with Cleveland and Pittsburgh
Raymond used to give me change for candy when i was a boy my grandmother carmela was a friend of MR P good guy.
I'm sure you have some interesting stories James!
My great grandfather, Benjamin Cianciarullo, represented Raymond and Joseph Patriaca when they were charged with white slavery in the early 1930's. Still have the newspaper articles.
Wow! What an interesting connection. Would love to see those articles.
Do a Story about Timmy The Bat Mello, From Fall River......
I've heard a few people mention Timmy the Bat. I'm unfamiliar with him, but maybe at some point I'll dig into him.
You never question a decision the boss makes , he has reasons behide what is decided .
Sorry I would explain more about *Angiulo* an about *Ray SR* ( as je was referred to as )
. but I grew up in an Italian neighborhood nn Providence and you learn early
" Never talk outta school " 🤐😶
Ray was the boss of bosses
He certainly was very powerful and influential during his time.
all about the money , he can do what he wants,
That's true. He is the boss after all.
I would imagine the meeting the between the angiulo brothers and raymond was more like make us or else type of deal and they payed him the 50k and 100k a year just out of respect to let everyone know Raymond is the boss, all of metrowest MA like Waltham Framingham Watertown all of the north end and east boston would have backed jerry and his brothers tbh
Thank you for the response Aaron! It was a question in my mind during the research process, so I thought it could be a nice, health point of discussion within the comments.
Thank you for your interest, time and obvious effort invested in providing this biography that was very compelling in terms of interest level and loaded with information about Raymond Patriarca.
Since you appear to be genuinely interested in correct pronunciation, let me leave you with another word for you to reconsider approaching.
The word is "Consigliere", which when you pronounce it phonetically, it makes me cringe. Would you please seek out out a person who speaks Italian and has knowledge about the Mafia to help you with this word.
Since this particular word is very largely associated with the Mafia, saying it correctly adds more credibility to your presentation.
Even though I am not Italian nor do I speak it, I have been studying this subject for quite a long time, and besides that, I am a writer who loves both the written and spoken word.
Again, your devoted committment to these presentations certainly deserves well deserved merit. THANK YOU !!!
Sorry about the redundancy, in the second to last sentence.
I appreciate the kind words Robert and yes, pronunciation is a work in progress. I appreciate you being kinder than most when pointing it out.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast Thank you! I have never been able to figure out why anyone would think that their opinion would be considered to be of any value to the person whom they are disregarding.
I wrote an Ebook on Amazon called "Satirical Diplomacy", which displays my love of words and the value that I place on posing my thoughts in a manner in which to illustrate humor and hopefully intelligent substance.
Since I admire the results of your determined efforts in regards to a subject that we are both fascinated by, there would be no need to be dismissive towards your courage in approaching unfamiliar words.
My book specializes in a candy coated approach to rebuking the very type of inconsiderate behavior that was very ill prepared to ask you to hear their feedback in a thoughtful manner.
I encourage you to go forth with your presentations, you provide valuable insight to human behaviors as well as entertainment that we can learn from.
In regards to pronunciation, oh well, if we we perfect in everything, there would be no purpose for our being here to learn.
In my book, I make fun of myself as well. Since I am poking fun at other people's imperfections, I would come across as rather self righteous, if I did not include
myself in my assessments of understated sarcastic humor.
@@robertanderson7333 thank you so much! It truly means a lot, and I now can see why people can be discouraged from putting themselves out there. People on the Internet tend to be far more brutal then they might otherwise be in person. Either way, I plan to keep creating great content while I continue to make improvements to my pronunciation.
I am sorry that I somehow failed to previously mention that the word CONSIGLIERE, unlike most words is pronounced so entirely differently than the manner in which ii is spelled. It is indeed a tricky word to deal with.
moods change , the old man had nothing to do with the husson brake in !!!!!
Joe Lombardo gave the sports book to Jerry. Ray wanted that sports book back in the family. The real question is why did Joe Lombardo give the sports book to a non member
I didn't see anything specifically that said that, but I'd agree it's plausible. I still have thousands of FOIA papers to get through eventually, so maybe I'll find something along those lines. It's clear that the Kefauver hearings was a signal for the prominent members of the family to back away and give up their positions before the law caught up to them.
I'm not sure due to the muscle and respect that Patriarca held with the New York families. Besides that , Raymond was old school which garnered his class a different form of respect. That is all possible with the continued earning brought in.
Actually take a look back. Lombardo wanted to get out because of the Kieffer hearings. The sports book is how Jerry actually got into the family. He was getting slacken down by wise guys. He paid Patricia $100k to get into the family plus $50k a year after that. Ray wanted that sports book back in the family.
@Eric Neill Good eyes and ears. Thankyou brother.
Massachusetts
Some guys killed for there button and some paid. Make no mistake Ángulo showed his balls when he got pinched and did his time like a man, unlike some wise guys that killed for a button. And who really knows what Ángulo did to be inducted into the family. It's non of our business
I've definitely gotten a lot of perspectives since asking that question on both sides of the fence. The Angiulo's seem to be fairly polarizing.
Before I started watching this video I said to myself “ he better not hit me with that westshire shit (Worcester) (woosta) after part one…:let’s see how it goes ….508 ❤
How did I do?
backed Russo, Zannino... NOT Angiulo
JR Russo is the most un-mob looking mobster maybe ever….the blond hair and the blue eyes if nothing else is extremely unique in the mob outside of Joey Gallo
I would tend to agree. He had a very unique look and style.
dear friend mine a Capo under Russo...
There is no clarity or understanding of them because they are liars. You waste your time trying to understand Evil.
It's OK to blink dude 😂
Haha, I only blink to signal that I'm in trouble. If I could only send screenshots of how many weird mid-blink faces I see in editing... :-)
Where'd this guy come from? Dude it's pronounced Wooster! Not warchester! I'd like the podcast, it sounds like he's reading from a book! He's pretty accurate, It'd be better if he was a paisan, lol ! Subscribed, Nobody does any shows about Hartford and Connecticut LCN, patriarca had everything east of the CT river, The Genovese people had west of it. Raymond used to go to the casa Loma across the street from pippies on wethersfield Ave.
Yes, I certainly found out about the pronunciation of Worcester (Woos-ta), and tried my best to fix it in Part Two. Not being a local, I had no idea honestly. That said, I find it funny as an outsider that Worcester, MA is pronounced Woos-ta (or Wooster), and Dorcester, MA is pronounced Door-chester like it reads. My family always says I should have been Italian, but alas I am what I am. Thank you for subscribing!
Good episode. Just shows you that without any education, no degrees or financial expertise he and his brother had few options in order to provide for his family. Without their dad they had few actual options for work and did what they had to do. Back then if you were someone with money or connections you got an education and good job but they were nobody's. Remember there were no welfare, education scholarships, food stamps or free housing/medical care like we have now. ++The reason his father died was due to infection from poor wound closure on his head. It was not an easy death. Imagine how intelligent he was in running this large multimillion dollar business empire with many employees thru many states who make money for the "company" and to do it with no profit and loss paperwork, HR offices, staff positions or any actual business structure. He rose to the top on smarts and cunning, he was always a step ahead of all the smart people trying to get him. ++He did not do a contract on his brother he was irritated a bug was placed in the office. He loved his son and grandson immensely.
Many stories are embellished but they the government did want him to kill Castro with cigars but never got out of planning state.
How many made men did new england have?
This Bonded Vault Heist is one huge lie again. Simple obfuscation to avert our eyes from the truth. Let's keep it going, ok?
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Is RUclips serving too many ads? If so, I apologize but I don't control it other than to turn on monetization generally speaking.
@@TheGanglandHistoryPodcast I watched the whole thing. And was impressed with the knowledge and presentation. But it was a comical literary every four mins towards the end. I understand thats how you make money. But I found it highly distracting from your video. Merry Chistmas
@@makincash3337 sorry about that. RUclips has definitely increased the frequency of ads which is annoying.
Rip RP 🙏
Cool video next time ask me before u steal my whole concept
To what concept are you referring?