War Thunder Beginner's Guide to Anti Air / How to Anti Air
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
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0:00 Intro & Heinz
0:10 Don't fire at targets you can't hit
0:38 Leave the spawn
1:09 Don't shoot too early
1:52 Learn to lead
2:16 Shoot slow targets
2:40 Tracers are your friends
2:55 Use bait
3:21 Don't be greedy and lazy
3:44 Save your teammates
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Rule #1 is great, but it comes with a caveat. CAS mains are by nature lazy and greedy, so they will search out the easiest targets. As an AA, you are almost always lightly armored and stationary. I will often let a few salvos fly at circling aircraft to bait them into an attack that they will not survive. Another more situational tactic for defense against a strafing aircraft is to start your salvo high, then drag it low. I've noticed alot of players will bunny hop to avoid ground fire, and doing this will almost always trap them into flying straight into a salvo or having to push into the ground
Me who cannot hit anything :(
You who watches all my tutorials! :) Then hit everything. ^^
Same 😂😂
@@BrianLTU yes. Or R3.
@@WatchMysh but I can't kill any thing From afar with wirblewind
@@safavid_ball176 let it come closer :)
If ur having a hard time leading planes, a great way of atleast finding their heading is waiting for them to fire at the ground or another enemy and from their it comes much easier. They said it in the video kinda but hey I use it all the time
id argue that burst firing is best suited for quick firing AA guns , while a long sustained barrage is better for things like 40mm bofors gun or larger since there is basicaly no reload delay
I'd say so, too.
'Don't be like this guy'
I am exactly that guy because I feel like Patrick 😂
Thank you. Somehow your tips changed me from not hitting anything to now a few days after hitting planes very easily. Starting to hit something and positioning better gave me way more confidence and led to now having a really good feeling about where I have to aim. Waiting for planes to shoot and using their tracers for help changed everything for me because of that I started hitting and got a good feeling for lead
@@tim_schtz perfect! :)
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These are great tips! I'm not great as AA, and I've definitely been making some of these mistakes. I'm looking forward to putting these rules into practice to see if I can improve!
Let's go! Hf! :)
Don't forget to max out targetting for your SPAA crew too.
bro youur guides are so good. i watched your dive bombing guide and now this AA guide and in both cases i saw immediate improvement. In the instance of AA i got 2 plane kills and even got a "Svere Damage" award.
Thanks for this I was needing help with this too:)
it works.....but you should add how to shoot down PE-8.....you aim like 5km in front of him and just keep shooting there. He cant turn so he will eventually hit your laser of death and MAYBE he will die.
I will finally be able to have good game and save my team from rage quiting because someone press space and vaporize 3 tanks with one bomb, thank you !
That's the way
man this helped me a lot:)
Really? That's awesome. Thanks for watching and hf! :)
Very helpful video!
Thanks! :)
Would you recommend using the gunsight or shooting in 3rd person like in the footage shown?
I shoot 95% in 3rd. This may change
a bit once you get guided missiles.
I sometimes shoot random into the Air to get the attansion of Planes and when they come near me i feed them with some 37mm he shells.
Nice tactics :D
What a great guide! These tips actually worked for me
Thanks for letting me know! :)
I wanted to brush up on some tips for AA I unlocked the Yenisei yesterday now I just unlocked the Shilka I'm a lil more partial to the Shilka but one vehicle im probably using wrong but it's working for me for some reason I'd tjt BTR-80A it hauls on city streets I load up my ammo and it works nice doing AA then if a team mate needs backup I can burn rubber and go start throwing the aps rounds. Love that bus
i can't overstate how much i loath spaa noobs that just shoot at any dot they vaguely recognize. it messes up so many opportunities, if teamkilling was enabled i would do it and the team should be thanking me for it.
not only does it alert the enemy and make them fly evasive, they will also know where to long distance yeet you. practically a lasermarker, just made of tracers instead.
... And then they complain like "Can't do anything against planes". Not trying to shame people here - but most try to play spaa like another "generic tank" what just doesn't work.
all these are excellent tips.
and i do have this one excellent AA tank in the T-60 (it can elevate its 20mm rapid firing gun really well and it is mostly immune to bullets that would normally harm open top AA vehicles)... i found that its loadout of pure AP which has no tracers is the best for taking out aircraft because they simply cannot see anything shooting at them even from head-on. works best at RB but also effective at AB.
as for effective range, i tend to hold fire up until the last possible moment (AB it's about 500 to 100 meters)... blast them quick then GTFO. it's like playing chicken with bullets when you have to, but mostly it's like shooting rats in a barrel.
BRO WHAT RULE 4 IS GOATED
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Is it possible that the aiming-helper circle in Arcade is inaccurate? Even at close distances, it’s pretty much luck whether my bullets hit or not when I aim at the circle.
Hm I don't know, sorry, because I only play RB
It's based on if your opponent flies in a straight line without gaining nor losing speed. Something that almost never happens.
So simple: If the the ennemy gains speed (probably when diving, or is flying straight), you aim a bit after the aiming circle, and if he's losing speed (maneuvering, pulling up), then aim before the aiming circle.
If he's turning, aim for the side he's getting to.
0:25 Literally me in my last game
Lol In the plane or on the ground?
my MASSIVE issue with low tier AA is that there is no preventing fighter bombers from bombing your teammates you can kill them after but at that point its kind of useless sure you prevent them from landing and bringing more bombs but most of the time people don't even do that they drop the bomb then cascade into the ground anyways
I never Seen a plane avoiding my Spawn they are dead locked in the Spawn and constantly attacking it😂
My tactic is to get their attention and get them to strafe me then when they are in range i fill them with lead 7/10 it works for me
Thank you.
You're welcome :)
Hey man can you do one on bombing? like cas how to aim bombs, rockets and other CAS stuff
Already recording. ;) Will be my next video probably or right after the next one. But no guarantee. Plans might change. I have a boat load to do besides RUclips atm.
Most of these are the same AA rules I use to great effect
guys i need help, in test drive the bot Aircrafts are so high in the sky that i cant hit them, do anybody know how to fix that? its kinda hard to play as a anti air when i dont have how to practise
Me before watch this video: miss
Me after watch this video: miss
What if I use M42 duster?
This shit shoots too slow to kill anything that isn't flying at me, and at the same time 1 20mm can kill entire crew.
Should I just switch shittt US anyways or try harder only to see US AA sucks in general?
You need to aim very well - or just ignore. Low BR US AA is (mostly) crap. M42 is quite good against some tanks, though.
I think I never managed to shoot a plane with the ZSU-37. 5 belt magazines with 290 rounds per minute is painful xD
I wish the planes in my lobbies flew normal instead of like their in d day 😂
I always use the planes tracers from their guns to hit
Nice profile pic lol
"Planes are mostly avoiding the enemy spawn"
Sir... i believe you have underestimated the stupidity of a great many people =D
Generally speaking he is correct however.
Is there not auto aim for anti air tanks?
My grandma can hit with high rate of fire AA guns. Any 37mm or higher tips?
Get even closer. Slow fire rate AA is hard to use. I usually also get the good results too by shooting stalled out planes from far away once they think they are save and start to do goofy shit.
Thank you
You're welcome :)
@@WatchMysh I still can't land any shots but hey at least I survived for longer :D
Also probably it was a bad idea to start off with tier 2 AA... Monoplanes are so fast, too fast for my low experience level xd
@@amysilverstone9059 Try to use a vehicle with a fast rare of fire! It's much easier to learn AA this way than using slow firing but hard hitting aa
@@WatchMysh I am using a fast firing one
It's German kfz 251/something
Problem is that I can't understand how fast plane is going, or distance to it...
@@amysilverstone9059 Yeah this takes a bit of practice. Try aiming "too far" in front of the plane and then "draw" a line towards it with your guns.
is it better when you shoot use sniper mode? or just basic zoom in without sniper? is there difference or accuracy remains same and will land same amount of shots?
Only the FOV and zoom changes. I mostly shoot in 3rd person in WW2 systems. No sniper mode
@@WatchMysh thank you for answer!
@@ArticWolfas I try to answer to every comment I get :)
I have this issue where my bullets dont want to hit, even tho I shoot following the tracker, I get 0 hits, I shoot a bit infront, no hits, a little higher, no hits. It's starting to annoy me
How far away is your target?
What is the best nation for aviation? For beginners
I'd say definitely one of the big three (Germany, Russia, USA). Maybe Britain.
I have a UHD Monitore but fr i cant see the enemy plane at 3:55 at all mate. Just the second between the 2 trees is a very lmost unnoticable shadow of a plane. wtf xD
Lol. That's why you observe the tracers and then fire a longer salvo. You don't need to see the plane this way and will still hit it if it doesnt change direction. People usually don't as long as they are greedily chasing a target.
If this works in my favor ill be back to subscribe
It will
i had a great shot today i was able to kill the pilot of a yak 1 but that was luck i barely hit my targets as aa
what game mode is this? i wanna play this can someone PLEAASE tell me
Ground Realistic Battles
Me watching this with 10.0 Anti Air.
Which 10.0? :)
Simple problem with the game is that CAS is so over powered compared to AA and you don't get any good rewards for shooting down air targets.
Only from 8.X upwards in my opinion. I also have a different opinion in general. I focused on counter CAS for the last few days because the CAS complaints are rampant in Reddit - and came to the conclusion that a single decent fighter pilot can lock down the whole sky. Don't know how it's in top tier, but for anything below BR 8 or 9 this is mostly true. So I believe the problem mostly lies beyond these ranks. And I guess I have a solution that doesn't involve banning CAS or creating other game modes. Will make a video in the near future. :)
//edit: I can also mostly lock down the sky at 5.7 in a single Ostwind. The "magic" is positioning and good gunnery. Especially if you're early and switch to spaa when the first attackers spawn after 3 or 4 minutes. You'll send 2-3 people straight to the hangar if you blow up their planes because they couldn't accumulate enough spawn points yet.
This is hard when teammates are stupid by default
honestly the biggest problem i have using anti air is a complete inability to accurately lead planes so hopefully this can help
I struggle even today when I switch to vehicles I haven't played in a while. Often it helps to check shell velocity again. And as always: try to hide until the target gets so close you could score a hit with eyes closed.
@@WatchMysh I always find that when the target is close enough it’s because either i’m the target and my Ostwind doesn’t have the turret rotation to kill them, the dispersion shoots rounds directly over and under the plane, or if I actually hit the plane I’m aiming for it’s irrelevant because there’s already another P47 and F4U in the process of bombing me from 2 other angles
@@rainbowappleslice leave spawn, find good cover. Like a house that protects you from at least one direction. You need to anticipate where the planes are going to bomb / strafe. Position where they will start or end their run. If you can't get a killshot, don't shoot. If you lose one or two team mates but shoot down three planes it's a good trade in regards of sp. There's no use in you hitting a plane once without downing it but you lose your AA in the process.
If you need to rely on your rotation you're probably in a less than optimal spot.
Guess I need to do another video lol... There's so much more to say.
@@WatchMysh the problem isn't that I can't find good cover, the problem is that I will not survive long enough to find some. I was playing earlier and spawned a wirbelwind after dying, and while trying to drive out of spawn and into literally any spot that would've been better, i was strafed by 3 seperate planes all at once. The points you made in the video are good points and make sense, they just often aren't feasible because they require you to escape spawn and find a good spot while being lucky enough to not get spotted and dived on from multiple angles. If I get the chance to position myself properly I can do fine in AA, it's just being able to actually move anywhere that's the problem. it's less about the specifics of how i'm playing and more of the pure saturation of US CAS in the air at almost all times that makes the problem unbearable.
@@rainbowappleslice I sometimes run into the same problems but not a lot. If you're in a situation like this the match mostly is over anyways. I'm one of the guys that thinks CAS isn't that problematic in War Thunder, at least not at low to mid tier. One good player in a plane can secure the whole sky again multiple strike planes. Especially if they are sluggish P-47. When CAS ruins my day I fly counter CAS in the next match and slap them all over the place. :D Learning to dog fight at low altitude pays off here. The 109 F4 is your friend. ;)
What's also good is to have some backups on the SPAA. Never paid a dime for them. I get them via warbonds because I always have too many. Need to spend them somehow. If CAS blows up your first SPAA observe a bit and spawn in at the right time. Like when they focus another AA. Don't move out of the spawn protection radius an blow up 1-2 planes. This most likely helps you clear the area and find some cover.
Rule 10, use ostwind not wirbelwind
It's really good nowadays!
@@WatchMysh which one lol
@@MyLordZeus lol the Ost
@@WatchMysh phew, thought for a moment you were one of them, but I dont understand. Why use the wirbel when the ost one shots anything not a bomber
What if i want anti tank
play spg
Okay
In arcade I thought there was auto aim??? Not on anti air ?
You get a lead indicator iirc
@@WatchMysh In arcade? I only get it when I play regular tanks not anti air ???
@@squidy4082 Oh sorry ... haven't played arcade since years now. The lead indicator possibly is only available on anti air with radar.
@@WatchMysh when I play regular tanks I get the lead when their close but not on Anti air which is weird ?
you didn't warn me
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@@WatchMysh 0:32 (probably)
@@visitor_05 oooh
lazy and greedy 90% of the victims. :P
oh yes ...