Anti-air - Bootcamp | War Thunder SPAA Guide
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Good morning commanders, and welcome to War Thunder Bootcamp! In the long-awaited second episode of this series, we'll be taking a look at (self-propelled) anti-air. If you're tired of those pesky enemy planes wiping out your team, you've come to the right place. I'll go through all the tips and tricks to help you get better at SPAA in War Thunder.
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0:00 Intro
0:23 Aiming
1:47 How to practice
2:43 Positioning
3:33 Extra tips
5:53 Outro
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Big shoutout to Pmag and Bagpiper for helping out with the tips 
Игры
"some spaa's have great firepower"
Zsu-57-2 never being used as anti-air, instead being the best anti-tank at its br: 😶
That thing is an absolute menace lmao
You have to use the Chinese version to properly do AA work.
@@MultiKbarry what's the difference?
@@zalanpeleskei5641 The Chinese version AKA the WZ305 has access to a proximity fuse shell that triggers within 6 meters of the target. So you do not have to get a direct hit to down the target.
I've actually knocked out a number of planes with it before. It's not the best aa, but if you can land a shot It's game over for them, lol.
Every US main needs this. Once you've got a 50 cal slapped on top of you're roof you're effectively AA too
T-55A, IS-3, T-10M, SU-122-54, etc. with fully rotating HMGs are extremely good. For some unknown reason the simple small machineguns on swedish tanks seem to onehit helicopters too for me.
too bad that US 50s don't have a full 360 of use as they are limited.
My advice, that some poor sod gave me a few years ago, is simple.
"If in doubt, lead your target further."
especially when dealing with planes going fast as fuck
Facts
This is true with anything that uses the 40mil bofors
me who usually leads them too far (i rectify it after seeing my shot go past usually)
Honestly light tank with 20mm auto canon are better at Anti Air than actual Anti Air in mid tier tbh (Eg XM800 and USH-20, R3-T20)
True
r3 t20
Marder a1 with atgm for tanks too
@@MageOtter27marder also uses same autocannon as AA wiesel 1A4, and even has more ammo
But the R3-T20 is an AA
The last tip was low key the best. Not that the rest weren't informative but that that monitor dust do be looking like aircrafts.
spookston's teammates need to see this
hahahaha
you should do an entire guide on the missile radar (or without radar) SPAA's, because knowing when to shoot the different types of missiles is the hardest part when you want to kill jets.
even early missiles SPAA's like the ZSU-23-4M4 and even the "technically not SPAA" Shturm-S which can fire an HE-VT ATGM that has a range of 7 kilometers and has thermals and is fast (it acts as an SPAA at 8.7 lol), or talk about the SPAA without radar like the Strela-10M2.
there's lot of interesting vehicules with early missiles like this.
the Shturm-S is the funny one because no one expects to see an ATGM killing planes at such long ranges, it eats helis alive too and the HE-VT ATGM doesn't trigger on ground targets so you can take a full ammo load of the same ATGM's and still kill tanks/overpressure them.
Definitely planned for the future
For the 3 useful teammates on the team
Or the overpowered secret tank destroyers
AAM SPAM
Im over here using the dshk in my IS-3 as an anti air 😭 (and yes, getting kills with it too.) its super goofy because enemy planes thinks im just some unarmored truck with a machine gun, fun to watch them try to MG me.
I feel called out with the last one-
same brother same,though I play on a TV so yeah I got it even worse.
Sure
sometimes i want the enemy planes to fly towards me by shooting randomly in the sky so they can find me. when they start flying directly towards you then its MUCH easier to shoot them down (especially for SPAAs like ostwind) because you will only have to worry about aiming in one axis.
valid strategy for only 1 plane.
more than one or when you are in the front is asking for a bomb drop or and HE shell sent toward you. But i guess you rarely had it happen.
i say that because some i had slap some SPAA with HE just shoting at the sources of the shots.
I have clapped so many cheeks in low tier with 20mm HVAP rounds on the flakpanzer 💀
Honestly should be classified as anti-tank
@@skDogerfr
@@skDoger It should be classified as an IFV.
Something I think it really important for AA, that I don't think you touched on enough, was how to deal with multiple enemy aircraft.
Firstly, I like to set up with a building or cliff behind me, or at least a tree. Although trees can be risky as a smart player can 'blind fire' through the canopy, but smart planes are rare!
This means when you're engaging one air target, it prevents another plane coming in behind and strafing you.
And secondly, keeping tabs on all the enemy aircraft is massively important because they WILL strafe you if they think you're distracted. Fire a burst at one aircraft, then check around for if anyone is coming at you. Fire another burst, look around. Repeat.
When the sky is swarming you might barely engage any individual aircraft as you'll need to be constantly switching targets.
Blocking your back helps here as it massively cuts down on the volume of sky you need to cover (and means you can traverse quicker to engage any targets that do present themselves).
You can also bait aircraft into strafing you (thereby making them much easier targets) by pretending to engage another target. Then, as they turn in to engage you, you rapidly swing round and shoot them down.
Falcon SPAA: I don’t get extra ammo, just what is already in the gun’s ammo boxes XD. Great SPAA though!
The belt with SAP-I, APDS, HE-I is just great as well. Works on any target. The amount of times ive killed Leo 1s or shot the barrel out on heavier tanks I meet from the front is too high. though I did once kill a AMX 50 Suribasse from the front due to one shot managing to ricochet behind the tracks and through the side of the hull and hit some ammo.
The shooting too early part hits so hard when you are playing early radar SPAA. I already got the waiting part down because it is very intuitive for me, and then seeing another Gepard fire as soon as the lead indicator appears is *painful*
as SPAA player kinda (i got more fly swatter than heavy metal after all)
there are at least two method optimal of aiming for SPAA which primarily depend on the kind of weapon you had.
1. For MG or sprayer is to use an intercept, in which you predict a little bit to the front of where they gonna go and just spray that location. This way you eliminate space variability to trade it with time certainty. This method take is where you use of your gun ability to "guarantee hit" on a space within a time.
2. For auto cannon, is to use tracking, in which you actually track the enemy plane then shot and correct on the go. This don't need much explanation as already shown in the vid.
both of these are not mutual and you can ofc use one tactic when appropriate.
For high flying bomber i prefer to use the intercept method even using auto cannon, because bomber had a very predictable flight path. In which i only need the timing, to simplify this i just aim at its path and spam it there.
so does when when enemy are flying low and close, just track them as usual regardless of weapon type.
Video Idea-
Make a vid on "Little War Thunder features costing games".
Here are "some" things I did not know before
> Click M to open map and then click on the map where ever u think there is an enemy
> You can see through your own smoke in thermals
> If the gun caliber is bigger than 100 mm then, HE can give consistent kills especially in lowtier.
> NEVER EVER BRING TOO MUCH AMMO , refer to war thunder wiki to know more about how much ammo u should carry
> [new trick] Shoot at the ammo inside of the barrel to kill Churchill AVRE. if u missed a shot, just turn and run away, he can't shoot u from + 150m
> Try to deduce the enemy team's future actions, like if 2 zones captured by enemy, they will try to reach the third zone.
> If u take time to kill a light tank, know that u must have been scouted.
> Certain maps have "exploitable" regions.
> Uptiers and Downtiers are key to success
> Sometimes very rarely, they newly researched shell is of lesser penetration.
> If no idea where to shoot, try shooting cupola for germany, gunner port for US, barell and tracks or lower front plate for Soviets
> Wiggling
> FOR GERMAIN MAINS, Always move after shooting a 2 km snipe, Yes, the enemy will attempt to CAS u
> You can make ur hit indicator last longer.
> Disable grass in tank sight
> Thumb rule- if camo white- good for snow maps, if camo mosty yellow/sandy- good for desert, if camo green and very messy- good for dense forest maps.
> Engine sounds
> Shut off engine in corners if u detect enemy.
> have different keys binded to primary and secondary weapons. very useful with dual armament tanks
There are many such tricks some less unknown and some nobody knows. I honestly wrote this to remember myself. XD
Good tips, I'll include them in a future video, thanks!
Caveat for number 2: You can see through your own ENGINE smoke/ESS in thermals. This does not work for launched smoke. Also this counts for ALL engine smoke/ESS.
One more thing to add to this laundry list of things is and i cant stress this enough
>Do not spawn camp if you dont have less cap points then the enmy/are still loosing the game
@@derick115_1 i agree!
@@BULL3THOL3S Actually I don't play toptier quite often, so i did not know bou that. Thanks :)
one thing I'd add about only shooting when you know you can hit:
IRL the main role of AA is to make it harder for planes to do thier job, so it could be beneficial to the team for you to fire some rounds when you see planes just to give the impression that yes, there is AA around. a CAS plane that thinks there is no AA around will be able to do a more accurate drop then one who's aware that AA is.
I wish WT would reward this kind of play by giving SPAA specifically rewards for near misses but... sigh.
Yes exactly, your job as an SPAA is to make enemy CAS' payloads ineffective. Since most pilots spawn and then beeline for a bomb drop, you need to fire at them early and often to either force a miss, or force them to hold onto their payload for another pass
Wt may wont reward it, but sometimes teammates appreciate the unrewarded work for the team. ( same with flipping a tank back up)
Great! That is very useful. Do it for gunners in bombers and how to achieve Unapproachable. I found that the best planes to do it with in order of difficulty, easy to less easy, are N.C.223.3, Ju288 and G4M1 (I don't have money for BV238). Them 20mm are nasty. Turn your smoke on, keep climbing and then you get them kills. Sometimes 4 in a single session.
if you play semi decent SPAA and use strat bomber with decent gun,
you can easily get more kill in Sims than using fighter.
except if you somehow meet the red baron incarnate
Bagpiper02 again with the inside scoop, good work Sk
finally! I can have more than 1 competent spaa on my team… as a SPAA player you say it best. Though I think SPAAs in general should avoid being autocannon TDs. They’re almost always too vulnerable to everything, and when focused on ground targets airplanes will creep up. Smart plane players know to not go directly into the battlefield, and instead creep around the map. So when you start looking for planes in the line of sight to the air spawn, they strike from behind. All in all great guide.
The dirt in the monitor thing is so true, I always clean it before going to battle because it sometimes made me confuse a little dirt dot with an airplane...
love ur vids
really helps thanks!
Thanks man. It is great.
Thanks brother. I just unlocked the French 40mm bofors truck and now I finally know what to do with it
My favorite spaa is the type 99 😈
155mm tracerless proxy shells at 930 m/s every 7.8 seconds can easily clear the sky if you learn its balistics
bro got me with the last tip lmao
Very useful guide thanks SkDoger
Yessss I’ve been waiting for updated guides please do one for every type and updated factions guides would be cool too! Earned yourself a subscriber
Please do more boot camp.Love your videos
Sometimes if I see multiple enemy planes in the sky, I would shoot at the far off one. This usually leads the other one to think I'm tunnel visioning and go straight for me, making for an easy head on shot, just be sure to move and fire at the same time if you're unarmoured when the joust comes.
Amo el consejo de limpiar el monitor, honestamente si he tenido problemas con eso! 😅😅 Gracias por el vídeo y saludos desde España!
I NEED THIS
I can only recommend this vid's, its realy helping .... thx dude
I have a good tip which works more than you'd think it would. If you see an aircraft coming in but not on an angle you want, try and bait them by firing in a different direction or a distant enemy plane. Never take your eye off them and be ready to adjust when they turn right at you. They do it all the time, and it's basically a free kill if they come straight at you. Just be aware of your ammo, fast reloaders like the Wirbelwind are fine but careful with the longer ones. This legit works most times I do it.
Pretty clever actually
@@skDoger Please try it, it will bring you the happy 😂
As a 4k hrs player, I approve this video. Please stop shooting at air plane 1.5km away even if you have radar. You are not going to hit anything. I'm talking to you Gepard players
me able to kill enemies 1.5 km away with Marksman reliably
gud vid bro
A good rule of thumb is to fire at planes once you can hear thier engines, unless it is a big slow target like a bomber.
make sure to turn UP other player engine sounds to the max and turn DOWN your own in the settings
The max range the game will allow you to use guns is -4km. Even if you are shooting early, trying to hit anything beyond 4km will usually result in the game despawning a majority, if not all, your shells.
True that
wow, your channel doing really good, it's first time I watch your video again since I went to high school, I already watch your video since four or five years ago when I started playing war thunder and having trouble playing it, I watch every single tutorial for learn and curing my depression. Now I am free from the snail and addiction, more so I got accepted in top 10 state university and having fun with friend like camping. For you guys, I know playing this game is really stressful, I know ever single player ever say "I hate this game, I will never play it again, it just suffer!" But eventually you will login in the next day, after watching youtubers playing tanknin the right way and watch some toturial like this, but trust me, I can escape from the snail... Good luck everyone live is not just war thunder.
Facts my brother
Mistaking an ant for some planes and planes ahead of you irl for some bombs in the game is all we'd experienced
I killed 5 planes with the M8 LAC in 2.7 china, while having a uptier, M8 gotta be the best SPAA, and 50 cal being the best AA gun
Mate, this video made me from an AA baffoon in realistic to a decent issue for CAS players
Edit: (Tho it might be because im in upper low to middle of mid tier)
Always lead more than you think
If you think you got enough lead, lead more anyways, if its too much it will slowly drift into the right lead amount anyways
I was once in a crusader aa mk2 and despite being literally next to it i couldnt side pen an su (dont remember which also it was arcade)
There are also custom missions that allow you to practice your AA aiming skills.
True, forgot to mention those
I've kind of like the stock belts because changing belt to fight a tank when trying to shoot down a aircraft or the other way around usually got me killed.
Fair enough
"Babe wake up skDoger posted"
I wouldn't really ever tell anyone who plays mostly rb to invest in keen vision. In ab it has its uses but in rb it's basically just a dead skill, and most of the time you have something better to invest into.
I hated using the m24 i believe it's what its called? Cause i was never able to get kills or hardly ever, soon as i got that gatling gun AA i was able to get all the kills
"if the tracers fall off" yeah, if I could see them. I'm using my glasses and still need to hug the screen to even catch a glimpse of the tracers' trail😅. It's not a video problem, I just like to share some thoughts
Lmao I feel you brother, sometimes you have to chase those pixels
The amount of teammates I’ve seen shooting where the planes are instead of leading the shot is alarming
What belt do i go with the zsu 37 2? because i can load only 1 type
Then the stock belt should be good, since it's got a mix of AP and HE
@@skDoger Thanks cool tutorial guy
❤❤
Can you do a beginner Guide on Ground RB for new players?
Planned for the future
the ystervark is arguably the best spaa in rank 3
Man im so full from eating planes, Yum
Hungry ass
In my experience shooting without the scope is much more easier to hit
How can I shot down enemy aircraft at 7.0 with my M42 duster?
(US is the only nation now with such big AA gap, even France and Sweden got their fixed)
Pray for a 7.0 anti-air to be added next patch lmao, that thing struggles
@@skDoger gajoob being intersed in maverick fans more than core gameplay:
Aa is fun :).. I particce with ab
Any information on how to read the Air alert?
If you look at the top of your screen when using a tank, you'll find a bunch of numbers. This represents the azimuth which is pretty much the direction. When someone uses the air alert command, a small plane symbol pops up on the azimuth of the enemy's direction. Aside from that the command also tells you how far away the enemy plane is.
Ohh. Im blind. After 700 hrs of WT, its only now i noticed the number on top of the screen
I am the first person to view this... I feel goood👍
Notification gang
One of the things that irritates me the most about this game is the Gepard players. While I'm waiting in Veak-40. York or other gun SPAA in higher BR until the plane comes closer to kill it by surprise, then of course the Gepard players shoot at 7 kilometers, blocking the option of killing the enemy plane XDD
can we get the conversions on screen please cause not everyone uses km and I dont like having to convert to my unit that I use in game... I ask because no content creator even flashes the conversion on screen and thats all I really want
I'll keep that in mind for the future
The only problem is the rate of fire and turret rotation in the old anti-aircraft
My tip is to get a AA with a radar.
Honestly half of being good at anti air is just being experienced In the game. At around 500 hours, you just start to know how fast rounds are and planes are, and your brain just computes the rest
Do naval guide :D
Planned for the future
Don't open fire the guns until the target is within 1.2km.
shooting too early and camping in spawn is the most common things i see people do and it allways make me cringe
War Thunder algorithm, come over here!
Pst pst pst
Comment for algorithm
My man 🤝
WZ-305 with dky-1 is the most satisfying spaa in game
As a Sweden main, I don’t think this applies to me…
Me who just shot down 3 aircraft in SB 😎 (its nothing special)
I chooose p51
Dont trust sweden AA just because youre in a tank. The Lvkv 42 can kill a tiger lol....
Last time I saw a guy using aimbot i killed him with my trusty TU-2S using friendly planes as bait. Don't use aimbot or I'll come for you.
(the guy is already ban)
war thunder spaa guide: Rule Nr.1, only play russian spaa´s
Smh didnt use the Wirbelwind thumbnail. Instantly unsubbing!
remove this video please i wont be able to cas anymore
Cope and seethe