I loved this video, great job! You had an awesome line in Lava; perfect on the V-wave but Big Kahuna said not today! I paddled an IK there in '97 at 14k and did the same thing. Kahuna got me and the swirlie currents coming off Cheese Grater ripped me out of the boat before I could roll...
Damn. Nice line through Lava. I've never been there, but other than the massive wave that you caught at the wrong time and rolled, you took the exact perfect line that I would have drawn on an image of that rapid from an overhead view. I don't blame anybody for taking a swim there, especially not in a pool toy!
It looks like you maybe had a few different Alpacka models on the trip. Did anyone have a removable whitewater deck? Just curious how they all did comparatively if you're willing to share. Great video!
This was in 2014 so prior to removeable WW decks and prior to Alpacka making self-bailers, etc. I think everyone had WW decks on their main packrafts (i.e. no Cruiser Decks) although we did have two self-bailers with us. One I created by modifying a removeable Cruiser Decked Yak. We took the deck but found that we really didn't need it as the boat bailed well. Consequently we didn't use it. The other self-bailer was a Feathercraft Bolder. A number of us also took ultralight Scouts/Ghosts/Supai boats (non-decked) for short sections involving canyoneering. We were super-impressed with how well our DIY self-bailer performed and as a result I have promoting self-bailers ever since. We thought about going for a removeable WW deck on a recent Gnarwhal purchase but ultimately went for a WW deck as we hope to use this boat in cold water environments (one day) like Alaska. I have no actual experience with the Alpacka removeable WW decks myself so cannot comment. Cheers
Question: what happens if you get separated from your raft / belongings? Do you have to swim to the shore line and somehow manage to hike / climb your way out of that canyon? Thanks for taking time to respond to my question.
That is a really good question. For me it depends on the size of the group and the nature of the river. On this trip we had a group of 16 with about half in packrafts and half in large oar rafts so it was easy for others to help. Interestingly when we first started on this trip many thought that the big rafts would be looking after the packrafts but this was not the case as it was much easier for packrafts to rescue packrafters. This was done regularly on the trip! In a decent sized group of 4+ paddlers normally 1 or 2 confident and competent paddlers would chase the boat, paddle or any lost gear whilst the others look after the swimmer. In a small group of 3 or less it can be a problematic situation as there is the dilemma of whether to chase the boat or the swimmer or the paddle. Obviously the swimmer is more important than equipment however they can often self rescue by swimming to shore and in a remote environment, losing your boat, can actually be dangerous. It is one of the big reasons that I discourage solo paddling as the consequence on some rivers of being separated from your gear is severe. When in small groups (3 or less) I suggest that paddlers are carrying some emergency gear on them (e.g. a PLB in their PFD and some fire starting tools) as it is quite possible to lose a boat or even a couple - either temporarily or permanently. It happens! When I capsize I try extremely hard to keep hold of my packraft (& paddle) so even before I exit it I am hanging on to the thigh straps. The great thing about packrafts is that, with practice and good technique, self-rescue can be quick and 'relatively' easy. I have recently written a couple of articles for Hyperlite Mountain Gear on whitewater safety for packrafters and will put the link ups when they are published.
Great video! I last paddled the Colorado in 1991..just won permit for sept 2019..I’m 6’ 2” 205lbs..trying to decide on the Nharwal or the Alpackalypse for the trip..12 inch tube versus the 10 inch..I’ve paddled hard boats and squirt boats .Im experienced..any suggestions? I’m Kind of leaning towards the 12” tubes..cheers!
The one in the video is the original Alpackalypse. Alpacka have improved it further since then. This is the WW decked version and as much as I like self-bailers for the majority of my trips I would definitely stick with a WW deck for the Alpackalpyse due to its lower profile and lower volume. A great boat!
I loved this video, great job! You had an awesome line in Lava; perfect on the V-wave but Big Kahuna said not today!
I paddled an IK there in '97 at 14k and did the same thing. Kahuna got me and the swirlie currents coming off Cheese Grater ripped me out of the boat before I could roll...
Wow.
Man that was fun thanks. ✌🏻👊
This is insane.
Damn. Nice line through Lava. I've never been there, but other than the massive wave that you caught at the wrong time and rolled, you took the exact perfect line that I would have drawn on an image of that rapid from an overhead view. I don't blame anybody for taking a swim there, especially not in a pool toy!
That is some excellent paddling. Ran the Grand a couple years ago with a big guided group and would have killed to do some of this.
This is still the most epic video ever! Mark Oates is a legend!!!
Impressive stuff! That's some serious water!
Alle Achtung vor eurer Leistung. Sehr schönes Video, wo man selber Lust darauf bekommt. Grüße ronactive
Awesome!
Richtig cooles Video und stark, wie ihr das mit den Packrafts fahrt.
Definitely has a kayak background! Sweet!
Genial esas líneas, saludos desde Colombia
Many thanks! Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Man, that looked wild.
I surf and mess with the ocean but this absolutely terrifies me!
It looks like you maybe had a few different Alpacka models on the trip. Did anyone have a removable whitewater deck? Just curious how they all did comparatively if you're willing to share. Great video!
This was in 2014 so prior to removeable WW decks and prior to Alpacka making self-bailers, etc. I think everyone had WW decks on their main packrafts (i.e. no Cruiser Decks) although we did have two self-bailers with us. One I created by modifying a removeable Cruiser Decked Yak. We took the deck but found that we really didn't need it as the boat bailed well. Consequently we didn't use it. The other self-bailer was a Feathercraft Bolder. A number of us also took ultralight Scouts/Ghosts/Supai boats (non-decked) for short sections involving canyoneering. We were super-impressed with how well our DIY self-bailer performed and as a result I have promoting self-bailers ever since. We thought about going for a removeable WW deck on a recent Gnarwhal purchase but ultimately went for a WW deck as we hope to use this boat in cold water environments (one day) like Alaska. I have no actual experience with the Alpacka removeable WW decks myself so cannot comment. Cheers
Thanks for the info! Looked like a rowdy trip!
top Video - the Grand Canyon is beautiful and spectaktulär.
really nice video!
Nuts!
Amazing ❤
😎⚓
Presumably much more stable than a hard shell kayak, so long as there are no drops.
Goals and aspirations
Question: what happens if you get separated from your raft / belongings? Do you have to swim to the shore line and somehow manage to hike / climb your way out of that canyon? Thanks for taking time to respond to my question.
That is a really good question. For me it depends on the size of the group and the nature of the river. On this trip we had a group of 16 with about half in packrafts and half in large oar rafts so it was easy for others to help. Interestingly when we first started on this trip many thought that the big rafts would be looking after the packrafts but this was not the case as it was much easier for packrafts to rescue packrafters. This was done regularly on the trip!
In a decent sized group of 4+ paddlers normally 1 or 2 confident and competent paddlers would chase the boat, paddle or any lost gear whilst the others look after the swimmer. In a small group of 3 or less it can be a problematic situation as there is the dilemma of whether to chase the boat or the swimmer or the paddle. Obviously the swimmer is more important than equipment however they can often self rescue by swimming to shore and in a remote environment, losing your boat, can actually be dangerous. It is one of the big reasons that I discourage solo paddling as the consequence on some rivers of being separated from your gear is severe. When in small groups (3 or less) I suggest that paddlers are carrying some emergency gear on them (e.g. a PLB in their PFD and some fire starting tools) as it is quite possible to lose a boat or even a couple - either temporarily or permanently. It happens!
When I capsize I try extremely hard to keep hold of my packraft (& paddle) so even before I exit it I am hanging on to the thigh straps. The great thing about packrafts is that, with practice and good technique, self-rescue can be quick and 'relatively' easy. I have recently written a couple of articles for Hyperlite Mountain Gear on whitewater safety for packrafters and will put the link ups when they are published.
strong man!!!
WOW! pretty nice!
Brave guys with steel balls!
Great video! I last paddled the Colorado in 1991..just won permit for sept 2019..I’m 6’ 2” 205lbs..trying to decide on the Nharwal or the Alpackalypse for the trip..12 inch tube versus the 10 inch..I’ve paddled hard boats and squirt boats .Im experienced..any suggestions? I’m
Kind of leaning towards the 12” tubes..cheers!
Galleta's Dad at your size, get the Gnarwhal. You’ll be happy you did
Sic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
heftig
This packraft ordered in regular set or with extrsas( excl. white water deck and fly)?
The one in the video is the original Alpackalypse. Alpacka have improved it further since then. This is the WW decked version and as much as I like self-bailers for the majority of my trips I would definitely stick with a WW deck for the Alpackalpyse due to its lower profile and lower volume. A great boat!
Mark Oates how bigger reg. Alpaca when packed and how heavier? Price difference? Thanks for responding! )
Unsure on the new versions but www.alpackaraft.com/rafting/product/alpackalypse-2/ should have all this info!
Mark Oates thanks!) Really lovely craft! Think to buy or do myself something similar with some mods)
Doing 4 DIY for the price of one Alpacka packrafts, although id love to purchase one someday. 💯✌🏽
Die sind zwar nicht ganz dicht , aber geil ist das schon !!!
Зачёт!
Probably Lord of the Rings soundtrack worthy 😎
Great footage, but man, that music sucks!
Gnarly
holy f
Awesome!