I was on a ride with a group a friends. We all discussed the price of bikes today. General consensus, what we all currently ride is good enough and the cost to “upgrade” just is too much. And for context we were all riding mid level Treks and Specialized, so nothing fancy. Bikes that sold for $2-$4K pre-Covid
Good for you Katie. It is time someone credible like you pointed out that there are fantastic bikes out there that are affordable.. The "name brands" have been ripping off the consumers for years. Well done
Happy for you Katie! What you described is probably the most beneficial aspect of carbon (besides weight) the stiffness translates to responsiveness. So, when you put the pedal down, the bike almost jumps out from under you compared to an aluminum or steel frame. On the flip side of that, the road conditions might be felt more acutely which can translate to “road buzz” in the arms etc. I hope you enjoy all the benefits and none of the drawbacks of your new ride! Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi Katie I got the same bike last year. Great bike. I assembled mine with SRAM force. Just finished a 350 mile ride in Colorado. Bike climbs great and it is solid descending. You are going to enjoy this bike.
I've used the hypers for few years now, no issues braking even in the wet, I've used swiss stop black prince, giants own pads, winspace pads and campag red pads, all worked just aswell, used them in pyrenees in June 85kg no problem
Great bike and great choices! Such a pity mainstream brands don't offer these type of bikes anymore. With carbon wheels and rim I'm always conscious not to drag the brakes, good technique is required to ensure the best longevity. I try to avoid wet rides, I have a spare Ultimate with alloy rims for that. For excessive noise a little toe in for the brake pads set up is usually enough. For the seatpost I love my Roval Alpinist, expensive but very light. Ciao!
SLC2 with direct mount rim brakes is a great frame - quality manufacturing, great handling and for the price a bargain really! The wheels. You’ll get used to the feeling but you really should get TPU inner tubes fitted, and Swiss stop brake blocks, for carbon, you’ll love the feeling and the braking with those slight upgrades.
Some TPU brands recommend they shouldn’t be used with rim brakes others say theirs are fine. I’ve used them for years in the UK with no issues. I am light (sub 60kg) only with my race bike (sub 8kg) and never done any alpine descents with them.
Press fit bottom bracket is nothing to worry about. I have BB86 on my Bianchi and never had a problem with it. I bought the tools and learned how to replace it myself and change it once a year as part of routine maintenance. However I could easily run it for years without changing but I’m fussy about maintaining my bike. There are a few horror stories about press fit but they are usually down to poorly manufactured frames with bottom bracket shells that are out of spec and should never have been released.
Happy new bike day, looks like an absolute weapon. I'd love to see a video where you show how you have your Garmin setup, what data screens you have and why etc.
Fab video, thanks for your open and honest approach to the review. I have a 12 year old carbon trek which I have just upgraded the groupset and wheels. First time for carbon (& tubular) wheels - wet riding is a bit scary due to the brakes being slow response,. I can't justify the price of new bikes, but my trek has been time trialled, audaxed, cafe ridden and commuted on. I love it and it works for me!
Nice bike! I like how you have chosen reasonably priced components. Great video. I like your climbing videos, especially when you talk about your training for rides with lots of climbing.I have rode up Haleakala (3000 meters in 56 km) in Hawaii in 2021 and am going to ride up Mauna Kea (4200 meters in 88 km) in December. I live in a flat area (Florida, USA), and training for rides with lots of climbing is not easy to do around here. Keep up the great work.
Good for you, not my first choice but that's only because I've got comfy with disc brakes and comfy tyres sizes. Looks lovely though and no doubt will be an excellent climbing bike.
I got myself a Trek Domane a while back with a big discount because it was previous' year model, it's quite heavy with the ~10 kg's but a great starting point to get into road cycling. Would love to ride a super light carbon bike myself one day though. Very nice build!
Well done on the new bike. I have a TCR rim brake and purchased some windspace Lun wheels I wasn't impressed with the braking and moved over to a set of boras and never looked back. Not all wheels are made equal the braking on the boras are soooo much better. The BB you can get a press fit locking bb like the hope Pf41 for this frame. Token also do one which locks the cups together stopping any unwanted movement 👍👍
I was lucky enough to snag a Canyon hybrid in November 2019 right before they tripled in price and a few months before lockdowns in the US, and then fortunate enough to snag a Poseidon road bike during lockdowns about 8 months later before their prices increased. I upgraded both seats to the Trek seats you recommended over a year ago and I’ve been happy as a clam ever since! Both have great components it the box!
A bike you can't ride in the rain is a bit of a chocolate teapot. Hydraulic disc brakes are also far less maintenance than rim brakes, way better braking too.
Morning Katie New bike day, whoop whoop🎉 Did you get the Winspace direct from the manufacturer or from Simon in Yorkshire? Winspace do some great cx rigs, just saying if you fancy a bash on gravel 😁
Ive got a winsoace gravel setup - very happy. I crashed those weels head on at 50km/hr, had a few small chips, two spokes pop out and tires did not go flat. These wheel are bomb proof! The newer hypers are even better. You should see if theyll send you their G2 gravel bike, its nice.
Hi Katie, bike looks good. I have lots of experience with carbon wheels with rim brakes ( Mostly HED ). I regularly use a full carbon tubular set and a tubeless set. The tubeless ones have an alloy rim which works great with the rim brakes. You probably already know that the full carbon rims require a brake pad compatible with the carbon brake surface. They will help keep the brake surface from overheating and causing the rim to fail. Also just be a little more aware when they get the wet. I'm sure you'll love them when you get use to them. Keep the Charming personality and have a great day.
Happy new bike day! Hope you've managed to get out more over the 'break in the weather' we've had this week :) My TCR weighs almost exactly the same as yours, and as you say, the stiffness makes such a difference. Onwards and (literally) upwards. Rim brakes on carbon though - wet northern downhills - keep it for dry days.
I really enjoyed this video Katie, you are one of the few cycling RUclipsrs that references more affordable options (the team at Cade do a good job on that too). Can I ask, have your found the GRX 46/30 great for spinning up hills? I don’t have much power in my legs due to some long term injuries and wonder whether this would be a good swap for me instead of my 50/34 with 11-32 which around here in the Peaks I struggle with sometimes. What cassette do you pair with it? Thanks
Interesting review, Katie. When I get some fitness back and can actually ride up steep hills, I must do a review of my Teschner bike, which I built up from a Trek 1.2. Despite the name (hello Peter!), Teschner is an Australian-made F&F in the 'traditional' style. Hmmm, something to work towards. Anyway, as you say, it wasn't a 'techy' review but your keenness for it certainly came across. May the wind be always at your tail........
Great video of your new bike experience, Katie!! 👏👏👏 And kudos to you for sticking to components that are still on the steep part of the cost vs. benefit curve. 🙌🙌🙌 I'm sure you know this. But not all brake pads for carbon rims are created the same and some have noticably better wet weather performance. I think viewers would love to have you share feedback on your experience with different manufacturer's carbon rim brake pads. At the risk if being pushy, I would highly recommend you try Kool Stop brake pads. In my experiments, these brake pads have been the best performers. One of the loveliest features of Kool Stop brake pads is the "plow" design which "scrapes away" water from the rim surface just before the rest of the brake pad does its work. Brilliant! I hope you love your new bike and have a beautiful time in France.
Great video Katie. Between yourself and Harley, you seem to be the only RUclipsrs standing up for traditional ethics of what bikes are all about. The marketers have stifled the bike industry and hoodwinked everyone in to thinking that the key to cycling is spending the price of a good used car. Keep doing what you do, it’s refreshing! 💪🏼 p.s Chapeau do a gilet with pockets which I know from watching your content over the years is a mutual pet hate! 🙏🏼
I am in the process of deciding which winspace wheels to buy for my gravel bike. Import charges are steep as got to pay top price due to lost packages in importing. They recommended DHL which is reliable. Super nice gear they have at a significant price reduction to the ridiculous mainstream competitors like specialised etc. Lovely looking bike Katie. Many smiles will be had on that
I'd give ces sport wheels a look. They are based in Wales (so no customs fees) they are super aero and the hubs are great quality. Husband has had his since 2017 and I've had mine for a year and a half and the difference they made were amazing.
I started off with a used Trek 1.5 with Tiagra components, I paid $500 for it. I wanted a fancy carbon bike so in2021 I bought a Canyon CF SL 8 with Ultegra. Is the canyon better? Most certainly. Is it $2,500 better? Not even close. And keep in mind, I love the Canyon and would buy it again. Bike are ridiculously expensive and not worth going into debt over.
Going outside of the European and US makers makes sense for us mere mortals. I remember a few years ago meeting a lawyer (who in all fairness acknowledged he was pretty privileged) at the TDU in Adelaide, and he'd just plonked down AUD$11k for a Canyon. I recently had 3 stolen bikes (Cube, Giant Liv and Merida) replaced with 2, both from an Indonesian maker, Polygon. They have been manufacturing since 1989. I got a gravel bike, Path X5, with Shimano 105 and it makes a great daily ride. My weekend bike is a 2023 Polygon Helios A8X, which has Di2 Ultegra gearset and Ultegra disks, carbon wheels, Metron cockpit etc. The cost in Australia is just under AUD$6k. The bike is much, much better than I can push it! I looked at BMC and others, to replace my stolen Cube, but I couldn't come close. The asian bikes are worth a look, especially for us amateurs.
Looks nice, Katy. I’m not a fan of rim brakes on carbon wheels in the wet, but they’re fine in the dry. I’m lucky that I have other bikes I can ride when it’s wet, so my one rim-braked, carbon-wheeled bike (now 10 years old) is for dry sunny days only!
Nice new bike Katie. Can you go tubeless because if so you can brake long on steep descents without worry. Latest press fit bikes seem to be much better and if you use a good BB you shouldn't get creaking.
Great video. I ordered mine on black Friday. Can't wait to build it. I think im gonna go SRAM red 10 speed with some aluminium wheels in order to have disc-like braking performance.
Great video Katie! I honestly thought you would keep pushing the Ribble brand and keep promoting UK craftsmanship - Winspace are cool, but, not sure if it suits the personality of your channel :) But! I understand you have a business to run, so! My 2c! Hello from Australia :)
Nice video. I have a question about road feel of your winspace with the carbon wheels. I recently built a similar bike, carbon, 11 speed Ultegra, carbon bars, rim brakes. Wheels are 50 mm carbon wheels, similar weight to your bike. How does your bike feel on a windy day, or gusty descent , or when a large vehicle passes near you ? Like your vids. Thanks.
Is your GRX group mechanical or electronic? What cassette do you run on the bike? (I'm thinking this could be a good candidate for a bike build) - thanks as always for your passion and down-to-earth advice. Good riding!!
The sit-up situation... Is a thing related to geometry and bike Fit... The stiffness on carbon frames is real ... Then if you or when you take a bump or a hole... Will amp and not feel comfortable but it might get you the PB rewards on Strava. Enjoy the new bike. Sounds good from here.
Winspace have always made decent bikes tbh , and if your wanting a challenge to test the bike out Macc wheeler's are doing hill climbs around Macclesfield every Friday night . You should sign up it's a great ride
Katie, That is a nice bike 👍👍 Does seem still quite expensive £3000 I would say , cycle to work scheme does a lot of good stuff.. Rim brakes , work for you , I am not so keen , coming down the one hill in Suffolk they didn't stop me just slowed me down ,, I am a bigger lump than you and its unfair on them rim brakes to expect/ hope they stop me ... Liked the aero bars ,and the bartape you chose, I retaped my bars 2 weeks ago very pleased with the end result. I was expecting a fly past from the Red Arrows in recognition of this achievement and a mention on the news but they both seem not to of received the email.
The fact you got pbs says it all, Katy! Seems like a fine bike and so light. Anyone who spend 10 grand on a bike is either extremely rich or bonkers! - or more likely, both! Lol. Another great video, Katy - you are always fun to watch - Enjoy France! 👍
Or maybe that person just likes nice bikes. You can lie to yourself all day. A top end bike rides completely different to this cheap chinese crap. Its not even the same universe.
It's not just bikes, I see this in a lot of industries. Everything for the shareholders (which they themselves often are as well) and ever increasing profit margins, come hell or high water. Enjoy the ride, everywhere I hear it is a solid brand. 👍
I have HUNT carbon rim brake wheels. Braking in the dry even going down steep hills is great. You learn to adjust braking levels in the wet, but never feels unsafe
Kate, I have carbon wheeled bikes with rim and disc brakes. The only way to go is disc brakes. No worries about stopping when its wet or over heating your rims on long down hill runs. Give them a try I don’t think you will be disappointed. Good luck with your new bike!
Great content Katie New horse looks fab. Bet she's gonna fly up the Tourmalet ! ⛰ Have fun tweaking the best setup to suit you & have a brilliant time at the TDF ☀️ ⛰🐐
Get a hambini bottom bracket if it's pressfit. It was a game changer on my tri bike. I'd love to try a winspace frame but they don't make anything larger than a 58cm frame and I always ride a 64cm. Great video though.
Interesting but I prefer a high end steel frame or a high end aluminium italian frame to anything carbon. I rode on a Trek OCLV and on a Specialized Roubaix, it was so uncomfortable that I had my back almost killed. Glad that you didn't chose a disc brake version. As for components for my road bikes , my choice goes to the older Dura Ace 7800 and for wheels either Zipp 404, Zipp 60 and Mavic Cosmic Carbone. Glad that you kep your Dedacciai stem and bar, I don't trust at all a monobloc carbon stem with integrated bar. As for pedals, I prefer look delta pedals. For saddle, I only chose, Selle Italia with eitheir the Flite or Turbomatic models. For the note, I have raced on the past with steel bikes and they still get my preference. Nice bike anyways and enjoy.
Press fit becomes an issue when the bike is not made to the specification required. If you are able to then think about a Hambini bottom bracket. Astonishing (and I am sceptical of these things) bit of kit that doesn't come cheap. Both Hambini and Mapdec do videos on the issues/solution.
Congrats Katie!! I spent soo much on my mountain bike and I wanted a gravel bike so I had to build one myself. Reason is the barrier of entry (cost) into gravel riding is extremely high atm. I will look into winspace as a frame though!
I agree. I don’t really see the need for a disk brake road bike that can’t fit tires wider than 28mm. I know how to brake, and I can beat all my friends going downhill on my rim brake bike.
I agree i managied to get my bike secondhand van nicholas titanium half the price and I changed groupset from shimano to campagnolo amazing bike your bike looks good too I will get a winspace wheelset sometime
Man. The SLC 2.0 has been on my list for a while. I moved to a place where I do a TON of climbing. New Bike Day is the best. Your excitement is awesome, and I hope you enjoy this bike for years1
Cool. Agree. I've been riding a Lightcarbon direct from the manufacturer the last 2 years and mega pleased with it. The paint quality could be better, but its climbed around 100,000 metres to-date, feels really stable on the descents. Still on rim brakes but would consider buying the same frame in disc.
Wouldn't worry much about the press fit BBs since it was professionally installed it's a matter of following protocol and doing it right ... that doesn't necessarily happen on an assembly line nor does anything else as far as that goes anyway. Just not very many good factory builds in my experience and worth a professional rebuild for the long haul for a trouble free bicycle. Its why we spent a lot of extra time doing some of that in the initial preparation at our shop to avoid the costly maintenance that we would have encountered during the warranty period and our trade ins were easy to prepare too. Sorry to say not all do this and it matters alot so bargain hunting isn't really a bargain. As Eddy said "Ride Lots " and it's best enjoyed on a well put together bicycle. My philosophy had always been build it right and it will be riden lots...so far this has been proven true. Recently one of the older mechanics where I worked all of my career mentioned that he was preparing a 30 year old bicycle and he was 100% sure I built it because it was 100% correct including the grease...that was the kicker he also knew that was the grease I used when I completely rebuilt it before it was sold (I was spending 4 hours on a initial build then so all the bearings had good grease including the hubs and everything properly torqued , lubed snd wheels tensioned and prestressed). He was right as I did do the initial work and it was a joy to see the 30 year results of doing things right. Just for the record I never left that philosophy behind and now I no longer have that job as I was recently let go mostly because of that. Having not missed a day through Covid and being one of the few senior mechanics that did so it was a real blow. Breaking my pelvis six months later has kinda kept me out ... definitely slowed down and riding a recumbent until I can get out on my trusty old Zurich. Everything changed in that split second slipping of an icey curb and hitting it on the way down. Thank God for the good surgeons that rebuit my pelvis and hip and the improved technology in the field of orthopedics because I now have a titanium acetabulem and ceramic bearing that will also last a long time. I'll never be seeing a surgeon about that unlike my grandfather. Technology a good thing.
Hi Katie glad your happy with your bike carbon wheels are good l hope you got a life time warranty after a few months check the frame for hairline cakes you will feel better climbing have a good weekend
Awesome Katie Strange, I just watched a video comparison between elves and winspace a pommy lad carbon expert did a detailed inspection. One was by far better than the other
Nice. Smart build I think. Besides the other things here, like weight and stiffness, the smaller chainrings will feel more peppy on a steep climb. Curious to see if you find a 46T big ring enough on faster days.
The trouble is that each incremental increase in quality comes at ever increasing costs to the manufacturer and the consumer. Put it down to the price of the unobtainium that the frame, post, pedals, spokes, etc are made of and the demands of setting up jigs etc that can cope with that material. It is a bit like high end audio equipment: for a poofteenth increase in quality you have to pay twice the price.
Hi Katy, I love your new bike. I was just wondering if there was a particular reason for moving away from the Ribble brand? I had a recent bad experience with their customer service, but the bike itself in working order was amazing.
You don't have enough gray to understand in 89 I debated dura ace or canpy on a hand made Italian frame from slx tubing with beautiful castings $2600 inflate that forward they were stupidly expensive and still are.
I know this doesn’t work when one needs a sponsor (making videos about nice bikes and beautiful destinations ain’t cheap), but if I had it to do all over again, I’d get a custom randonneur bike made by a small reputable builder, preferably local. It’s not racy, but I’m not, either. It’s expensive, but perfect fit and flex and practical bits are really really nice.
Great review Katie, I’ll admit I dropped off you channel a while ago , this popped up and I wanted to have a look. Nice work, a decent, open and honest review with no BS. Keep it up .
The rake is a brute 😢 well done Katie. Bike looks mega and there super nice people at the trek store. Looking forward to seeing your adventures on the new rig. Would be great to see how it copes on the French hills
@@KatieKookaburra yeah she’s a brilliant bike! Really comfy! Not sure if it’s the build quality of the fact I’ve dropped down a size than recommended of if it’s I’ve gone to a shorter crank.
I was on a ride with a group a friends. We all discussed the price of bikes today. General consensus, what we all currently ride is good enough and the cost to “upgrade” just is too much. And for context we were all riding mid level Treks and Specialized, so nothing fancy. Bikes that sold for $2-$4K pre-Covid
2-4k isn't fancy?! Lol
Good for you Katie. It is time someone credible like you pointed out that there are fantastic bikes out there that are affordable.. The "name brands" have been ripping off the consumers for years. Well done
Happy for you Katie! What you described is probably the most beneficial aspect of carbon (besides weight) the stiffness translates to responsiveness. So, when you put the pedal down, the bike almost jumps out from under you compared to an aluminum or steel frame. On the flip side of that, the road conditions might be felt more acutely which can translate to “road buzz” in the arms etc. I hope you enjoy all the benefits and none of the drawbacks of your new ride! Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi Katie
I got the same bike last year. Great bike. I assembled mine with SRAM force. Just finished a 350 mile ride in Colorado. Bike climbs great and it is solid descending. You are going to enjoy this bike.
I've used the hypers for few years now, no issues braking even in the wet, I've used swiss stop black prince, giants own pads, winspace pads and campag red pads, all worked just aswell, used them in pyrenees in June 85kg no problem
"Impassable by vehicles in ice or snow" I looov that sign !
Great bike and great choices! Such a pity mainstream brands don't offer these type of bikes anymore. With carbon wheels and rim I'm always conscious not to drag the brakes, good technique is required to ensure the best longevity. I try to avoid wet rides, I have a spare Ultimate with alloy rims for that. For excessive noise a little toe in for the brake pads set up is usually enough. For the seatpost I love my Roval Alpinist, expensive but very light. Ciao!
Katie's rocking them rim brakes that's why you're the GOAT 🐐
SLC2 with direct mount rim brakes is a great frame - quality manufacturing, great handling and for the price a bargain really! The wheels. You’ll get used to the feeling but you really should get TPU inner tubes fitted, and Swiss stop brake blocks, for carbon, you’ll love the feeling and the braking with those slight upgrades.
You really shouldn’t use TPU inner tubes with rim brakes! They specifically warn you not to.
Some TPU brands recommend they shouldn’t be used with rim brakes others say theirs are fine. I’ve used them for years in the UK with no issues. I am light (sub 60kg) only with my race bike (sub 8kg) and never done any alpine descents with them.
Press fit bottom bracket is nothing to worry about. I have BB86 on my Bianchi and never had a problem with it. I bought the tools and learned how to replace it myself and change it once a year as part of routine maintenance. However I could easily run it for years without changing but I’m fussy about maintaining my bike. There are a few horror stories about press fit but they are usually down to poorly manufactured frames with bottom bracket shells that are out of spec and should never have been released.
big fan of Winspace, love my rim brake hyper wheelset. Great to see you riding one and keeping rim brakes alive!
Happy new bike day, looks like an absolute weapon. I'd love to see a video where you show how you have your Garmin setup, what data screens you have and why etc.
Fab video, thanks for your open and honest approach to the review. I have a 12 year old carbon trek which I have just upgraded the groupset and wheels. First time for carbon (& tubular) wheels - wet riding is a bit scary due to the brakes being slow response,. I can't justify the price of new bikes, but my trek has been time trialled, audaxed, cafe ridden and commuted on. I love it and it works for me!
Nice bike! I like how you have chosen reasonably priced components. Great video. I like your climbing videos, especially when you talk about your training for rides with lots of climbing.I have rode up Haleakala (3000 meters in 56 km) in Hawaii in 2021 and am going to ride up Mauna Kea (4200 meters in 88 km) in December. I live in a flat area (Florida, USA), and training for rides with lots of climbing is not easy to do around here. Keep up the great work.
Go do the Horrible Hundred in Clermont, Florida. With 115 km you get 1000 m of climbing. Yes, Florida.
Good for you, not my first choice but that's only because I've got comfy with disc brakes and comfy tyres sizes. Looks lovely though and no doubt will be an excellent climbing bike.
anyone choosing rim brakes in this day and age is just completely baffling to me
I got myself a Trek Domane a while back with a big discount because it was previous' year model, it's quite heavy with the ~10 kg's but a great starting point to get into road cycling.
Would love to ride a super light carbon bike myself one day though.
Very nice build!
I bought a Trek Demone second hand. I wanted to try a road bike. I LOVE it. Not bad for £400
Love my Domane
Well done on the new bike.
I have a TCR rim brake and purchased some windspace Lun wheels I wasn't impressed with the braking and moved over to a set of boras and never looked back. Not all wheels are made equal the braking on the boras are soooo much better.
The BB you can get a press fit locking bb like the hope Pf41 for this frame. Token also do one which locks the cups together stopping any unwanted movement 👍👍
I was lucky enough to snag a Canyon hybrid in November 2019 right before they tripled in price and a few months before lockdowns in the US, and then fortunate enough to snag a Poseidon road bike during lockdowns about 8 months later before their prices increased. I upgraded both seats to the Trek seats you recommended over a year ago and I’ve been happy as a clam ever since! Both have great components it the box!
Glad you went with rim brakes, lighter & simpler to maintain - I usually don't ride my aluminium Trek Emonda ALR4 rim brake in the rain ☺️
A bike you can't ride in the rain is a bit of a chocolate teapot.
Hydraulic disc brakes are also far less maintenance than rim brakes, way better braking too.
Thumbs up to the Trek shop for doing the build for you. Hopefully other 'brand' shops won't be sniffy about doing the work either. Bon voyage!
Have you not seen the Trek Lidl advert Katie is in.
@@luketoms6110😂 I thought taking a Chinese bike to trek might be a bit awkward
@@luketoms6110 No!?!? What?!🙈
@TB41n0 it's not like they're not already building Chinese bikes anyway
Morning Katie
New bike day, whoop whoop🎉
Did you get the Winspace direct from the manufacturer or from Simon in Yorkshire?
Winspace do some great cx rigs, just saying if you fancy a bash on gravel 😁
Ive got a winsoace gravel setup - very happy. I crashed those weels head on at 50km/hr, had a few small chips, two spokes pop out and tires did not go flat. These wheel are bomb proof! The newer hypers are even better. You should see if theyll send you their G2 gravel bike, its nice.
Hi Katie, bike looks good. I have lots of experience with carbon wheels with rim brakes ( Mostly HED ). I regularly use a full carbon tubular set and a tubeless set. The tubeless ones have an alloy rim which works great with the rim brakes. You probably already know that the full carbon rims require a brake pad compatible with the carbon brake surface. They will help keep the brake surface from overheating and causing the rim to fail. Also just be a little more aware when they get the wet. I'm sure you'll love them when you get use to them.
Keep the Charming personality and have a great day.
nothing better than a tuned, stiff and light bike! Love that murdered out look.
Happy new bike day! Hope you've managed to get out more over the 'break in the weather' we've had this week :) My TCR weighs almost exactly the same as yours, and as you say, the stiffness makes such a difference. Onwards and (literally) upwards. Rim brakes on carbon though - wet northern downhills - keep it for dry days.
Yeahhh that's my thoughts just carbon rims - but will see how I go :)
@@KatieKookaburra indeed. Enjoy France!
@@KatieKookaburrawhy don’t you tell us about Ribble rather than not say?
I really enjoyed this video Katie, you are one of the few cycling RUclipsrs that references more affordable options (the team at Cade do a good job on that too).
Can I ask, have your found the GRX 46/30 great for spinning up hills? I don’t have much power in my legs due to some long term injuries and wonder whether this would be a good swap for me instead of my 50/34 with 11-32 which around here in the Peaks I struggle with sometimes. What cassette do you pair with it?
Thanks
Great new bike Katie😊
You heading down to the New Forest Garmin ride next month?
Have a great time in France 🇫🇷 ❤
Interesting review, Katie. When I get some fitness back and can actually ride up steep hills, I must do a review of my Teschner bike, which I built up from a Trek 1.2. Despite the name (hello Peter!), Teschner is an Australian-made F&F in the 'traditional' style. Hmmm, something to work towards. Anyway, as you say, it wasn't a 'techy' review but your keenness for it certainly came across. May the wind be always at your tail........
Great video of your new bike experience, Katie!! 👏👏👏 And kudos to you for sticking to components that are still on the steep part of the cost vs. benefit curve. 🙌🙌🙌 I'm sure you know this. But not all brake pads for carbon rims are created the same and some have noticably better wet weather performance. I think viewers would love to have you share feedback on your experience with different manufacturer's carbon rim brake pads. At the risk if being pushy, I would highly recommend you try Kool Stop brake pads. In my experiments, these brake pads have been the best performers. One of the loveliest features of Kool Stop brake pads is the "plow" design which "scrapes away" water from the rim surface just before the rest of the brake pad does its work. Brilliant! I hope you love your new bike and have a beautiful time in France.
Great video Katie.
Between yourself and Harley, you seem to be the only RUclipsrs standing up for traditional ethics of what bikes are all about. The marketers have stifled the bike industry and hoodwinked everyone in to thinking that the key to cycling is spending the price of a good used car.
Keep doing what you do, it’s refreshing! 💪🏼
p.s Chapeau do a gilet with pockets which I know from watching your content over the years is a mutual pet hate! 🙏🏼
I am in the process of deciding which winspace wheels to buy for my gravel bike. Import charges are steep as got to pay top price due to lost packages in importing. They recommended DHL which is reliable. Super nice gear they have at a significant price reduction to the ridiculous mainstream competitors like specialised etc.
Lovely looking bike Katie. Many smiles will be had on that
I'd give ces sport wheels a look. They are based in Wales (so no customs fees) they are super aero and the hubs are great quality. Husband has had his since 2017 and I've had mine for a year and a half and the difference they made were amazing.
@@cyclingwoman8798 thank you for your recommendation, I will give them a look. I like scribe wheels, but always looking at companies
I started off with a used Trek 1.5 with Tiagra components, I paid $500 for it. I wanted a fancy carbon bike so in2021 I bought a Canyon CF SL 8 with Ultegra. Is the canyon better? Most certainly. Is it $2,500 better? Not even close. And keep in mind, I love the Canyon and would buy it again. Bike are ridiculously expensive and not worth going into debt over.
Going outside of the European and US makers makes sense for us mere mortals. I remember a few years ago meeting a lawyer (who in all fairness acknowledged he was pretty privileged) at the TDU in Adelaide, and he'd just plonked down AUD$11k for a Canyon. I recently had 3 stolen bikes (Cube, Giant Liv and Merida) replaced with 2, both from an Indonesian maker, Polygon. They have been manufacturing since 1989. I got a gravel bike, Path X5, with Shimano 105 and it makes a great daily ride. My weekend bike is a 2023 Polygon Helios A8X, which has Di2 Ultegra gearset and Ultegra disks, carbon wheels, Metron cockpit etc. The cost in Australia is just under AUD$6k. The bike is much, much better than I can push it! I looked at BMC and others, to replace my stolen Cube, but I couldn't come close. The asian bikes are worth a look, especially for us amateurs.
Looks nice, Katy. I’m not a fan of rim brakes on carbon wheels in the wet, but they’re fine in the dry. I’m lucky that I have other bikes I can ride when it’s wet, so my one rim-braked, carbon-wheeled bike (now 10 years old) is for dry sunny days only!
Nice new bike Katie. Can you go tubeless because if so you can brake long on steep descents without worry. Latest press fit bikes seem to be much better and if you use a good BB you shouldn't get creaking.
Good vid Katie. Interesting it uses a Cannondale mech hanger.
Congratulations Katie! 🙌🏾❤
It’s been a while I had a new bike day, and a new wheel day! My last was during covid lockdown.
Congrats! I guess it was dealing with rim brakes for about 40 years, but would never consider a rim brake bike today. Hope it works out for you!
Great video. I ordered mine on black Friday. Can't wait to build it. I think im gonna go SRAM red 10 speed with some aluminium wheels in order to have disc-like braking performance.
I’m confident when I say… you will love it! Mega bike 🤩
Great video Katie! I honestly thought you would keep pushing the Ribble brand and keep promoting UK craftsmanship - Winspace are cool, but, not sure if it suits the personality of your channel :) But! I understand you have a business to run, so! My 2c! Hello from Australia :)
Nice video. I have a question about road feel of your winspace with the carbon wheels. I recently built a similar bike, carbon, 11 speed Ultegra, carbon bars, rim brakes. Wheels are 50 mm carbon wheels, similar weight to your bike. How does your bike feel on a windy day, or gusty descent , or when a large vehicle passes near you ? Like your vids. Thanks.
Is your GRX group mechanical or electronic? What cassette do you run on the bike? (I'm thinking this could be a good candidate for a bike build) - thanks as always for your passion and down-to-earth advice. Good riding!!
The sit-up situation... Is a thing related to geometry and bike Fit... The stiffness on carbon frames is real ... Then if you or when you take a bump or a hole... Will amp and not feel comfortable but it might get you the PB rewards on Strava. Enjoy the new bike. Sounds good from here.
Congrats on the new brand, the bike looks wicked 👍 Chris
Winspace have always made decent bikes tbh , and if your wanting a challenge to test the bike out Macc wheeler's are doing hill climbs around Macclesfield every Friday night . You should sign up it's a great ride
Great video as always, Katie! Are you keeping your Ribble Endurance, is the Winspace replacing it?
Lovely bike health to enjoy :) I’m 90% the liv is the same as giant tcr the top of the seatpost comes off and turns and is then inline?
Love the setup. Looks amazing. Loved my Hyper wheels. Winspace delivers pretty 🤌 stuff.
Katie,
That is a nice bike
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Does seem still quite expensive £3000 I would say ,
cycle to work scheme does a lot of good stuff..
Rim brakes , work for you , I am not so keen , coming down the one hill in Suffolk they didn't stop me just slowed me down ,, I am a bigger lump than you and its unfair on them rim brakes to expect/ hope they stop me ...
Liked the aero bars ,and the bartape you chose,
I retaped my bars 2 weeks ago very pleased with the end result.
I was expecting a fly past from the Red Arrows in recognition of this achievement and a mention on the news but they both seem not to of received the email.
Great review Katie. What cassette are you using with that chainset? I’m looking to lower my wife’s gearing to make climbing a bit easier for her.
Awesome 😎.
Congratulations on the beautiful new bicycle.
How come no disc brakes on the bike?
I love your channel. ❤
Great video! How much was the bike and do you have a power meter on it?
Congrats on the new ride and bon voyage for the TDFF.
The fact you got pbs says it all, Katy! Seems like a fine bike and so light. Anyone who spend 10 grand on a bike is either extremely rich or bonkers! - or more likely, both! Lol. Another great video, Katy - you are always fun to watch - Enjoy France! 👍
Or maybe that person just likes nice bikes. You can lie to yourself all day. A top end bike rides completely different to this cheap chinese crap. Its not even the same universe.
It's not just bikes, I see this in a lot of industries. Everything for the shareholders (which they themselves often are as well) and ever increasing profit margins, come hell or high water.
Enjoy the ride, everywhere I hear it is a solid brand. 👍
Hey Katie! Move your passion for riding bikes. How many bikes do you have and how do you use them? 😊
I have HUNT carbon rim brake wheels. Braking in the dry even going down steep hills is great. You learn to adjust braking levels in the wet, but never feels unsafe
Oooh, been waiting for this video since I saw your post on Strava!
Kate, I have carbon wheeled bikes with rim and disc brakes. The only way to go is disc brakes. No worries about stopping when its wet or over heating your rims on long down hill runs. Give them a try I don’t think you will be disappointed. Good luck with your new bike!
I've thought about getting that same frame. Thanks for the review! My Giant with a press fit BB just started creaking this last weekend. Boo.
Great content Katie
New horse looks fab.
Bet she's gonna fly up the Tourmalet ! ⛰
Have fun tweaking the best setup to suit you & have a brilliant time at the TDF
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As always, thanks so much John :)
Looks like you've found a fun climbing rig. Is the geometry more relaxed...?
Get a hambini bottom bracket if it's pressfit. It was a game changer on my tri bike.
I'd love to try a winspace frame but they don't make anything larger than a 58cm frame and I always ride a 64cm. Great video though.
Durianrider will be Proud! Great bike! Rim Brakes for the Win.
Interesting but I prefer a high end steel frame or a high end aluminium italian frame to anything carbon. I rode on a Trek OCLV and on a Specialized Roubaix, it was so uncomfortable that I had my back almost killed. Glad that you didn't chose a disc brake version. As for components for my road bikes , my choice goes to the older Dura Ace 7800 and for wheels either Zipp 404, Zipp 60 and Mavic Cosmic Carbone. Glad that you kep your Dedacciai stem and bar, I don't trust at all a monobloc carbon stem with integrated bar. As for pedals, I prefer look delta pedals. For saddle, I only chose, Selle Italia with eitheir the Flite or Turbomatic models. For the note, I have raced on the past with steel bikes and they still get my preference. Nice bike anyways and enjoy.
Press fit becomes an issue when the bike is not made to the specification required. If you are able to then think about a Hambini bottom bracket. Astonishing (and I am sceptical of these things) bit of kit that doesn't come cheap. Both Hambini and Mapdec do videos on the issues/solution.
Congrats Katie!!
I spent soo much on my mountain bike and I wanted a gravel bike so I had to build one myself. Reason is the barrier of entry (cost) into gravel riding is extremely high atm. I will look into winspace as a frame though!
Love that rim brakes bike. I hate it that these days, many bike companies don't sell rim brakes bikes anymore for the top end carbon bikes.
I agree. I don’t really see the need for a disk brake road bike that can’t fit tires wider than 28mm. I know how to brake, and I can beat all my friends going downhill on my rim brake bike.
Great video Katie and enjoy France !!!!
I agree i managied to get my bike secondhand van nicholas titanium half the price and I changed groupset from shimano to campagnolo amazing bike your bike looks good too I will get a winspace wheelset sometime
Looks good. Enjoy. I must say I use carbon wheels. I love the comfort. But I am using 303s disc versions. Safe travels.
Congrats on a new bike! And Winspace is great bike for what you pay for it. Enjoy!
Thanks Jack x
Man. The SLC 2.0 has been on my list for a while. I moved to a place where I do a TON of climbing.
New Bike Day is the best. Your excitement is awesome, and I hope you enjoy this bike for years1
Cool. Agree. I've been riding a Lightcarbon direct from the manufacturer the last 2 years and mega pleased with it. The paint quality could be better, but its climbed around 100,000 metres to-date, feels really stable on the descents. Still on rim brakes but would consider buying the same frame in disc.
It´s 2023. Discs is a given imo.
Wouldn't worry much about the press fit BBs since it was professionally installed it's a matter of following protocol and doing it right ... that doesn't necessarily happen on an assembly line nor does anything else as far as that goes anyway. Just not very many good factory builds in my experience and worth a professional rebuild for the long haul for a trouble free bicycle. Its why we spent a lot of extra time doing some of that in the initial preparation at our shop to avoid the costly maintenance that we would have encountered during the warranty period and our trade ins were easy to prepare too. Sorry to say not all do this and it matters alot so bargain hunting isn't really a bargain. As Eddy said "Ride Lots " and it's best enjoyed on a well put together bicycle. My philosophy had always been build it right and it will be riden lots...so far this has been proven true. Recently one of the older mechanics where I worked all of my career mentioned that he was preparing a 30 year old bicycle and he was 100% sure I built it because it was 100% correct including the grease...that was the kicker he also knew that was the grease I used when I completely rebuilt it before it was sold (I was spending 4 hours on a initial build then so all the bearings had good grease including the hubs and everything properly torqued , lubed snd wheels tensioned and prestressed). He was right as I did do the initial work and it was a joy to see the 30 year results of doing things right. Just for the record I never left that philosophy behind and now I no longer have that job as I was recently let go mostly because of that. Having not missed a day through Covid and being one of the few senior mechanics that did so it was a real blow. Breaking my pelvis six months later has kinda kept me out ... definitely slowed down and riding a recumbent until I can get out on my trusty old Zurich. Everything changed in that split second slipping of an icey curb and hitting it on the way down. Thank God for the good surgeons that rebuit my pelvis and hip and the improved technology in the field of orthopedics because I now have a titanium acetabulem and ceramic bearing that will also last a long time. I'll never be seeing a surgeon about that unlike my grandfather. Technology a good thing.
Congratulations on your NBD !!👍🎉🎊🥳🚴♀️💨💨💨
Do you still have Ribble gravel bike or did they all go back?
I asked a similar question! She hasn’t answered which is annoying one minute recommending Ribble then no mention. I won’t follow her now.
Nice Bike. Have been looking at the winspace as my next ride. Also prefer rim brakes. Enjoy your new steed, looks good😊
Colin, let me know how you get on with it if you get one. I will also do a longer term review of it x
Hi Katie glad your happy with your bike carbon wheels are good l hope you got a life time warranty after a few months check the frame for hairline cakes you will feel better climbing have a good weekend
Awesome Katie
Strange, I just watched a video comparison between elves and winspace a pommy lad carbon expert did a detailed inspection.
One was by far better than the other
Nice. Smart build I think. Besides the other things here, like weight and stiffness, the smaller chainrings will feel more peppy on a steep climb. Curious to see if you find a 46T big ring enough on faster days.
What was the overall rough estimate for the build? Thanks Katie!! Can't wait for France videos!
Congrats Katie enjoy your bike and France 🚴🏼♂️🚴🏼♂️🚴🏼♂️🎉🎉🎉
Happy New Bike Day and safe travels to France 🇫🇷 I can’t wait to see your view of the action at the womens tour ❤
The trouble is that each incremental increase in quality comes at ever increasing costs to the manufacturer and the consumer. Put it down to the price of the unobtainium that the frame, post, pedals, spokes, etc are made of and the demands of setting up jigs etc that can cope with that material.
It is a bit like high end audio equipment: for a poofteenth increase in quality you have to pay twice the price.
Hi Katy, I love your new bike. I was just wondering if there was a particular reason for moving away from the Ribble brand? I had a recent bad experience with their customer service, but the bike itself in working order was amazing.
She won’t reply re Ribble
Just wondering why 46/30 chainset? Is it because you are using a shorter crank? Or just for better gearing on climbs?
You don't have enough gray to understand in 89 I debated dura ace or canpy on a hand made Italian frame from slx tubing with beautiful castings $2600 inflate that forward they were stupidly expensive and still are.
Real world, review!! Thanks KK.
Enjoy the Tour de France Femmes, have a lovely time!
Awesome choice, would love one !
Do you think you'd ever try their gravel frame as well?
Looking forward to seeing how you get on in France, could do with some new wheels
I know this doesn’t work when one needs a sponsor (making videos about nice bikes and beautiful destinations ain’t cheap), but if I had it to do all over again, I’d get a custom randonneur bike made by a small reputable builder, preferably local. It’s not racy, but I’m not, either. It’s expensive, but perfect fit and flex and practical bits are really really nice.
Have fun with it katie!
Nice bike Katie, and impressive weight and price tag. Did you notice if the bike accelerates well on carbon wheels?
I’m surprised you didn’t go for a disc braked frame. Might be a bit heavier but if you are going with carbon wheels, the braking is better with discs.
Great review Katie, I’ll admit I dropped off you channel a while ago , this popped up and I wanted to have a look. Nice work, a decent, open and honest review with no BS. Keep it up .
The rake is a brute 😢 well done Katie. Bike looks mega and there super nice people at the trek store. Looking forward to seeing your adventures on the new rig. Would be great to see how it copes on the French hills
Cheers Russ, you enjoying your new Trek??? 😍
@@KatieKookaburra yeah she’s a brilliant bike! Really comfy! Not sure if it’s the build quality of the fact I’ve dropped down a size than recommended of if it’s I’ve gone to a shorter crank.
I got a sharpie paint marker to cover up ugly white writing on bike parts, works great!