Did Valve Finally Kill CSGO Surf?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
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The CS2 Call To Arms Update brought unforseen changes to community servers, including those in CSGO and CS2. While some of these are negative, others offer incredible opportunities for CS2 modding, and a glimpse into the future of CS2
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Timestamps
0:00 - CSGO Down?
0:33 - Call to Arms Update
1:41 - CS2 Surf
2:45 - CS2 Scripting?
4:03 - The Future of Community Servers 
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valve just needs to release the legacy version of csgo as a standalone game, the way that css currently exists. they don't even need to do anything to it, we don't need inventories or matchmaking servers, just a community browser
100 percent I don’t know why they didn’t do that
@@poorman9259probably wants to force player base to play cs2. if they released csgo as a separate game, they would lose players on cs2 as community servers on csgo would likely be hosting their own matchmaking servers with ranks, custom cases and stuffs
The move from css to csgo was painful. Valve actually had to listen to the community 😢😢😢😢😢
@@loneshxdow they own both games I don't understand how that is a problem. Just monetise both and it's worth it. Eventually people will move to CS2 if they keep update it.
True, and it can be proofed by the fact that cs 1.6 is still alive
TypeScript is effectively a superset of JavaScript so in a sense you're not incorrect.
John doe I know you from somewhere.Oh yea! My favourite test name.
It's *really just* JavaScript but Microsoft didn't want to go through all the BS of licensing.
@faei1897 Typescript compiles into JavaScript, so they're still using JavaScript
@@barry5 So my point isn't mute or invalid, because that's what I was referencing. Microsoft *didn't want to* license JavaScript so they just went around that process.
@@barry5 Not nessesarily, TS doesn't have to be transpiled to JS in order to execute
Despite the roadbumps, Im still happy Valve still gives us the option to host community servers in CS2. They could've easily gone down the route of every other big developer and just gut the feature all together and centralize everything in their own MM. It still shows that there's some people there who know how important the custom games scene is to CS.
valve's multiplayer games across the board fully rely on this feature, It would be the beginning of the end if they decided to start removing it.
i cant find any servers on community...
Remember when theres no snap map for doom eternal
gutting community servers completely would probably kill high-level competitive counter-strike though (even though at this point faceit's a functional monopoly on team leagues at this point)
1:14 Valve is adding more Roblox???! Crazy
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"roadblocks"
@@bxxtt No
@@glaveglave7000he said roadblocks stupid lol
@@bxxttokay weeb
Rip csgo surf will be missed
try css surf :)
Don't worry
Momentum mod is coming in 2052
unfortunately movement in css compared to CSGO is sucks@@umadd_
TF2 and CSS surf are still here mate
@@umadd_hell no lmao ksf can suck it with the p2w bullshit. Literally cant even use replay bot if youre not a vip
lol @ repster surf correcting himself about typescript and not javascript when essentialy any typescript code will be compiled to javascript so the end run code is always javascript. we appreciate the effort to correct yourself though
TypeScript is not JavaScript because it compiles into JavaScript. That‘s like saying C++ is C or C# is Assembly
@@sekki2554 that's literally what I said
@@yousfizakaria2726 "That‘s like saying C++ is C or C# is Assembly" thats not true, as what you said is also not true, he was giving an example of another wrong satement
The difference is that most interpreters (except ts-node and bun) requires a transpolation stage before they can actual run the .ts code. You have to run a seperate program that converts .ts files into .js, which is different from C# where the compiler is a single step.
@@ben-brady thats an implementation detail. the c# compiler isn't a single step either
they messed with the +left /+right and +strafe binds, which were essential in surf combat.
now the +left or +turnleftbind rotates you at light speed, same for the +right counterpart. in csgo it was much smoother.
and they just removed the +strafe bind, which allowed you to strafe with your mouse, which was useful once you mastered it.
theyre just turning it into casual strike
Valve removing CS:GO like: "if you don't have a good computer or didn't like CS2, we don't care about you"
I guess CS2 was the best news ever for the Valorant development team, here where I live (Brazil) everyone moved out.
For me it's just sad cause now I have to play CS2 alone.
if your pc cant run cs2 at even the minimum settings you really need to stop playing and get a job and save up for a graphics card made in the last 8 years its 2024 time to upgrade your pc you dont even need an expensive one
@@yunekoVT problem is a gtx 1050 ti and i7 4th gen isn't enough, from what I know cs 2 was meant to improve performance not make it worse
Also he literally said he's from brazil, I live in the balkans which is slightly better, wdym get a job when PC parts are priced for americans and you really can't give local prices to a physical good
@@fitmotheyap idk man I know a guy who lives in Thailand and he is able to get brand new RTX 4090tis for about $900.
@@yunekoVTbrazil is poorer than even china, not so easy
@@Omega-mr1jgthen dont complain, they wont hold back because people cant afford shit
Momentum Mod will be the future for these movement modes I think.
me too, the playtest is awesome
Momentum mod looks sick, I'm hoping they release it so I can actually play it. Me and my buddy signed up for the open beta day one and still haven't gotten access 2(?) years later. Everyone else I know that signed up afterwards has gotten access so it's probably some Steam bug
@@orangy57 check your library, its added silently (besides an email) and as someone with the playtest, updates are frequent with a major one coming soon and i expect it to release soon
@@orangy57 You should probably ask about it in the official momentum discord
yea same almost 18months here on 2 diff steam accounts
talk about losing "momentum" for the game lmao
devs are ironheaded idiots anyway..telling people to join livestreams for keys but they never ever gave any out and bots took the ones they did anyway
now they stream to 1 viewer for 6 hour streams because nobody even cares to try lol@@orangy57
Great work Repster! CS2 community staying strong 💪
What discord server were they talking about the typescript in?
On community servers i didn't get any rampbug but when using only commands on a custom workshop map happened a lot
No, simply that the community of mods and content creators for CS2 and the Workshop for CS2 is in its infancy. They just started trying out the new toys. Also, for some reason, many players only want the competitive and play only for the cosmetics (addition to betting, basically).
Didn't they fix collisions in the new update? I hope it worked
I think they did it...
also, why did you remove all your csgo vods on twitch :(
that was stuff we could watch in the future.
hey Repster! thank you for the info on how to get back in to servers, can you help me out? I want to host a 24/7 aztec map for cs2 because there is a really good port map in the workshop but I dont know what hosting service to use, could you recommend one? Help me Repster you're my only hope!
I can´t tell if there are more rampbugs after the update because cs2 got so many by default i quit playing surf on this version of cs
my favorite kz csgo server still says its online but it wont let me join it. I click to connect to it, it fully loads and then brings me back to the menu screen. :(
Feels bad man. I still can't believe how they handled all this.
its back they just needed to update it
@@gordonneverdies for now im good but I dont ever wanna lose this cuz i love it too much
@@yooiinkk Oh thank God. You never know with valve. They make me nervous.
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Yep, i'm an avid Combat surf player and the update has absolutely wrecked maps like Ski for me, its really sad :(
I saw a video about this few weeks ago. They will have some kind of system for scripting which they already used in the Arms Race and I think it will be public for people making workshop content.
we aleady knew about the typescript change and have known for some time now. valve wiki -> Counter-Strike_2_Workshop_Tools/Scripting
it is/will be implemented in VScript2 for cs2.
cs2 surf will be in its glory soon im sure
I don't know why people think it's the end when they literally received a better graphics and physics engine than Source. XD
Literally CS2 is better than CS:GO.
@@asterlofts1565Must be smoking some good crack to believe CS2 is better than CSGO. The only thing that is better is the graphics. Everything else has been a downgrade so far. I have no doubt the game will get better but currently it’s been nothing but disappointing.
@@user-bc7hq5cg5s You can not possibly believe CS:GO competitive is better than CS2 Premier mode? You can not possibly believe CS:GO's smokes are better than CS2 smokes? You can not possibly believe CS:GO back end is better than CS2?
yeah we can @@arog7493
@@arog7493 They are people who refuse change sadly, it's the same as in real life. It is better in any way you take it, and trust me they will be thankful in a few years for CS2.
I kinda miss the "SendMessage" and telnet style server they had running to interact with the console from outside of CS
locked out of invetory is because of the new stickers/skins which are not supported by csgo and would probably cause quite a few issues
you can access your inventory just fine if you open cs2 just before csgo, although you may need to use certain third party software although im not sure that using cheats is totally necessary for this
I was able to play csgo surf just like you said in the video, after the latest update it doesn't seem to work anymore :(
did u figure out what happened
@@ksonnyy after you click More Info and the steam overlay pops up, don’t close the steam overlay just minimise it and try to connect to a surfe server again. It should then show the server browser and you can connect. It’s a bit hit and miss but it does work eventually
@@taysr yeah I was doing that but couldn’t connect to anything :/
typescript is just javascript with types,
it needs to be compiled to javascript (unless you use bunjs)
Leafy in Shambles after this information
you just click more info the first time, press escape fast and can open the window.
the only time ill reinstall is if they add back 5.1 surround sound
Thanks repster!
I’m moving and found my old condition zero box and cd. Has a sneak peak for the upcoming half life 2 lol.
Let's just all move to momentum at this point.
Why does it matter what it looks like? I play surf sometimes and I couldn’t care less what the animation looks like
3:50 What is the name of that map
edit: nvm is Rogue
I'm certain Valve will come back around to fix any major bugs for all these fringe game modes like surf, KZ, zombies, etc. after they are in a position where the base game is up to their standards. There isn't really much point to putting in a lot of working to bring up all these other game modes if the base game is still in flux. Hopefully they manage to do it soon, I can't wait to surf these new gorgeous CS2 maps!
If the base game isn't up to their standards then they shouldn't have released it before it's finished...
@@Lightful777 I guess you would rather have waited another 5 years for CS2 to release in a potentially perfect state? That is 5 years with no updates to CS:GO either and a chance their testing team didn't even catch every bug.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you wouldn't like that very much. It's a simple fact that Valve needs help to find all the bugs and problems with the game. There's no better way to do that than to employ hundreds of thousands of passionate fans who know intimately what it's supposed to feel like to give feedback.
@@arog7493 I mean, I don't really care what happens with CS2. I just surf and so there's no update they could possibly do that would interest me either way. But yeah, if they released the game and it isn't up to their standards then it's below their standards. Therefore they released the game knowing that it's below their standards, rushing it out. They've had absolutely forever to develop new ideas for cs, and the only reason they've done anything at all recently is because their monopoly on the genre was toppled by Valorant. Defending a megacorp like Valve like they're some indie studio is hard cope.
@@Lightful777 they released the game to get feedback from everyone, they already fixed peekers advantage
I love how valve had a functioning physics engine for 20 years and somehow just... forgot how to do it again
I miss old CSGO community servers! Most of my time in CSGO was in the community servers.
Valve is cookin, hopefully they cook it well tho
csgo was shit when it first released too, cs2 will be million times better in the end for sure
Cs go ia better
Ramp bugs will be fixed/improved immensely soon. Not saying anything more
Fyi Typescript is converted/compiled into Javascript so it's basically javascript with extra syntax
W update
i think it will be good with the typwscript language
I just want ScoutzKnivez to be populated again. Had a 1v1 on the NA server yesterday and it was so much fun
you can still play community serve in csgo?
yes etreme shot ru
@@ourchicken how ?
vscript?
We need Momentum Mod
it cool to see csgo and cs2 being talked about tbh i hate the game its so damn boring to the point i purposely got my self vac banned so that i diddnt have friends asking me to play but im glad the community still enjoy it
What's the song in 2:53?
And Below - Awlee
@@Repster ty bro
valve should financially support servers, like fortinite supports map makers, would give so much incentive for creators to be innovative and actually try to bring the best experience to players
That doesn't make Valve X billion amount of dollars so they wont do it, Sadly.
@@GoibniuNihiliste it doesnt make fortnite money either? They made a billion just in 2023 with cases, so theyd definitely have the budget to try something like this, that would only make the game bigger and better
@@snifzz because they have been getting content made off the backs of their own fans for basically free for the past decade. Why would they pay for it now. What you are saying is very cool but I don't think valve would go that route.
@@GoibniuNihiliste The reason why they would pay for it now is because noshit csgo had a lot of free content madw but it was out for over a decade, no cs2 is new and the workshop and servers were literally reset, the financial incentive would boost it. Have you visited cs2’s servers, they are garbage
Valve always had a hate relationship with community servers. Thats why server token exist so they can ban servers who brake rules. (This was a big issue in cs1.6 lot of cracked server etc. Lot of cs1.6 server has gameplay breaking "extras" people who bought VIP servers etc.). But if i remember correctly they do support skin makers and map makers.
Every now and then i come back to see if we can play surf2 but they just keep trying to kill off surf1
I will continue to play CS:GO until Surfheaven2 is released
Go to console and then type connect (surf server ip)
you can still play community servers in CS:GO but via direct connecting.
How ?
@@momolalgero5849 you find a community server you want to play, launch CS:GO, and in console type "connect {ip of the server}"
i almost exclusively surf csgo gfl servers, was really annoying to go through the hoops just to surf on the game i prefer
the legs are hilarious. what the hell bahahaha
I miss GOKZ :'(
i think it's time for CS 1.6/Source o shine again
Rip
I'm sorry to say this repster but surf can't be fixed until sub-tick is fixed or removed. Sub-ticks create innacurate micro movements that causes the same inputs resulting in different results in terms of movement-wise. We need a fixed sub-tick system or the old tick system to fix this.
not first for sure
first in my heart
I don’t see why they don’t just let us surfers be and accept that we will stick with CS:GO. I love source as well but CS:GO’s newer engine is imo really nice. I mean they obviously see a ton of people still playing source and don’t force them, so why can’t it be the same with GO (prolly skins). They should just accept a small minority of players won’t switch over and let it be. I personally enjoy my constant 500fps when surfing for minimal input latency. Might just be me though. GO is a good balance between CS2 and source in terms of engine and playability.
Interesting to see that CS2 uses javascript, CSGO used lua, S&ndbox I believe is going to use C#, all while Portal 2 used VScript?
Interesting design decisions, wasn't every source game pretty much a lua heaven 10 years ago???
-pixelsurfs +rampbugs
It seems like the ramp bugs have gotten much worse. Nyx is my fav port in CS2 and it is borderline unplayable after the update. We hate to see it.
i just wanna play hns bruh
It's not nostalgia or anything, i just want cs go back because my computer can't handle cs2, and cs go goes smoothly, it was so freaking fun and they decided to destroy it, fuck you valve
I'm just glad I'm in the momentum mod alpha
me too
"there wasn't a scripting system"
Squirrel: *am i a joke to you?*
vscript
They did the same thing that they did to csgo that microsoft did to Minecraft legacy console edition aka the version before bedrock edition came out on consoles. Id suggest considering quitting counter strike because of them phasing out old csgo. They should have kept csgo but apperently they wanted to make sure everyone switched because they did it before and everyone stuck to 1.6 or something i dont play counter strike so im on an outside looking in prespective but csgo was a PC gaming classic so they really should have kept the game available for play instead of forceing people to switch to cs2
game as a service is a stupid model
I can play cs1.6 and cs Source, so why can't I play CSGO standalone
And people so badly wanted TF2 to be ported to Source 2..
they NEVER removed css or 1.6. f valve
I just host a csgo legacy private server for me and my friends
If valve isnt able to fix the CS serverbrowser, why not creating one on our own? It really isnt that hard of work. You Just need some Basic understanding about mysql. We could even add things as global leaderboards for the DM/Arena-scene. We could even create a community made verification process for serverowners wanting to list their Server. If the category/playeramount/language is incorrectly declared they might loose their right to get listed in the serverbrowser. By this both, honest serverowner and player would benefit from it. All we would need are Streamer/RUclipsr supporting the project and Admins monitoring the server.
valve so set on forcing us to play trash subtick :/
This is why friends, for the generous amount of 10$... THE GOAT, The Myth, The Legend... Counter-Strike: Source exists. 👍
I think they should just separate CS:GO into a separate game on Steam and let it work like CS 1.6 and CS:S does, instead of having it as this mess of two games currently.
i dont see valve fucking with surf quite yet unfortunatly, due to the fact that the base game is still in somewhat of a beta form id argue.
or ya guys could just switch to another source engine game, its not like csgo is the only game that has surf
The community server browser in CS2 kinda sucks
I hate smurfing so good finially
If they add a java scrips the hacker devs can eazly to crash a servers on the commonty and main servers. This is bad itea ever to add!
Thank god css surf is unaffected by this and has better surf than csgo in the first place
bruh, that's it ?
cs2 cant run in my pc 😢
Bye guys
no point playing csgo surf when css exists anyways
csgo the only version that will no longer be supported lol ?
tf2 surf servers still work :)
I'm one of thoose that quit csgo because of all the cheaters at global. I came back a while ago after cs2 was released to the legacy beta and started surfing on Surfhaven I feel comfortable at T3 but I'm having fun again in cs every day. a joy and comunity I havent seen for many years. I can outright say that I never met such an amazing comunity in any game as the surf comunity. Thank you all.
And being stuck in sweden I was forced on the EU servers placed in stockholm named russia....
And the russians only scream scream scream are toxic and griefing or cheating every single game thats why I quit csgo so just seeing how nice everyone was in the surf comunity I saw a side I wish I had seen earlier. I was top 3 in 1.6 in on Spelarenan/playzeek wich was a competetive site like example faceit is. So seeing the downfall of my favorit game series since csgo was released made me quite sad.
I hope they either fix cs2 or let us continue using csgo legacy for as long as we want instead of killing it slowly.
Really getting tired of the cs2 surfing, i didn’t think it would be as much of a bummer to me, but lately it’s just been killing my mood, don’t really care about the game anymore, and I’ve really kinda lost faith here in this. Kinda don’t understand why they are doubling down on locking everything down when clearly no one wanted it like this.
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
lol
CS2 surf is so bad because of the major update. I can't even finish easiest maps because there are so many collisions that didn't existed before the update.
potentianl virus maps incoming
Valve has not done a single thing right since cs2 launch. Game will die, skin prices will plummet, pro teams will switch games etc.
SO bad
none of these things will happen lol
Cope harder
@@dayne6475 I think so. Game is worse, never mind its very old. I predict sub 300k monthly in 6 months
@@chuckbass7276 We will see brother
@@chuckbass7276 hahaha you are actually schizophrenic if you think that is even a possiblity
I'm so disappointed by the way they handled CSGO.
you know when CS 1.6 and CSS work better than Cs2 you know they fucked up.
Go and surf in Team Fortress 2.
This is insanely disappointing