Its Great, but will it be enough? Lets talk Prehistoric Kingdom
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Today we are talking about prehistoric Kingdom and its future. Will the updates be enough? Will it be the game its meant to be?
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The update has definitely been speeding up since early access, if I recall correctly. There have already been 10 updates since the launch of early access a little less than 2 years ago, many of which included not only new species or cosmetics updates, but also updates on gameplay and management aspects. However, I do understand your concern and really wish for this project to become more like a real playable game sooner, so that it would also appeal to a wider audience, which in turn brings profit and potentially leads to more content or faster development.
PK feels very promising considering the small team that is making it. They have a trello board and just released an art book that gives some deeper insight into future management
Jup saw that. This is why it was so important to me to stress how much respect I have for what they are doing
I really don't agree with "the graphics need to keep up," many retro 16/32 bit pixel art indie games have proven that if the game is good the graphical look are not vey important.
That being said, they do need to turn the current sandbox toolkit into an actual game.
Also 100% agree with you on the LOD thing, having to basically get so close that the only thing on screen is the font for it to be readable is ridiculous.
I agree with the pixels art games. But IMO this game relys on good graphics as it's part of the experience. If it was a unique art style I would agree. But this aims for realism
Graphics can be updated, remastered and changed, but if the gameplay is bad, or worse just boring that is the death of a game. So perhaps the should shift focus to getting getting some gameplay in the game pretty soon.@@RudiRennkamel
Funny you talck about this, i steal plaz zoo taycon 2 and jurassic parck operation genesis.
For park builders we have nowadays with like over 70 animals.
29 animals is a decent number for a park builder, so I’m satisfied with what We have so far with prehistoric kingdom.
After that, they can very much improve with the mechanics and if they want to add more paleofauna, they can very much do so, I just hope it won’t be too much and stuffed like Planet zoo and JWE.
I just need a good simple and creative Park builder with a decent number of creatures and creative items, like zoo tycoon 2
I've only just started messing around with this game, and...Maybe I'm weird, but I don't really want a "game," at least not in the sense of managing guests and staff and all that. If I want that, I'll just play Planet Zoo and download extinct animals for it. With this one, I just want to create a world full of dinosaurs with completely natural boundaries between enclosures, and just watch them do their things. I want them to have babies that grow up and live and die, and I want the animals to be able to interact with the environment and each other, with proper herding and dominance fighting and stuff like that. I would love some actual nesting behavior. I'd like for the herbivores to be able to eat things in their environment rather than being fed, though I'm not sure I'd want predators to be doing their natural thing, as I'm a big softie and don't want to see my animals killing each other. :) Etc. So, ultimately, I guess I want more of an animal simulator and to focus on building naturalistic and self-sustaining environments for the animals than I want a traditional park builder/manager. LOL I know that's not what I'm going to get, though.
My point is that, if the guests stay lifeless, I'll still be happy. If they were less detailed, I'd still be happy. I don't really care about guests and, frankly, I don't really want to build stuff for them, aside from the bare minimum, and I don't want to worry about whether or not they can see animals properly, etc. I want it to be all about the animals. I guess, ultimately, I don't want this to just be "Planet Zoo, only with extinct animals." I want it to be its own thing, and I'd prefer it to be more animal-focused than anything else. I know, of course, that the developers are going more for "Planet Zoo, only with extinct animals," so I'm not going to get what I want, but I guess my point is that, so long as they keep developing the animals and their behaviors and so long as they keep them scientifically accurate (as opposed to the heavily fictionalized dinosaurs of the Jurassic Park franchise), I'll be happy, because the animals are why I bought the game.
Well, most gamers want a GAME, so you do you. I want to manage a park, not play in a sandbox mode, thats not worth it to me,and many others.
@@Eldenbruh I know. That's why I said "Maybe I'm weird" and things like "I know I'm not going to get what I want." And also that, in the end, I'll be happy so long as the developers keep developing the animals and their behaviors, etc.. Basically, I was answering Rudi's concerns about there not being a game yet with a different viewpoint.
im a mix of both sides. but hey, herds/packs and other dinosaur motions are coming in update 13, and update 11 is adding staff. so both sides are going to be getting what they want. they already revealed ontogeny and many more things.
Your opinion, even if different from others, is respectable. The problem is that at the moment the game is still in its infancy, even when it comes to animal behavior. So far I haven't seen any animation that shows dinosaurs interacting with each other, as happens for example in JWE2, or in Planet Zoo. Furthermore, the animations are still rather poorly done, in the sense that the movement of the dinosaurs is not natural and they often move jerkily or always repeat the same actions. The graphics, however, are a completely different matter and are at very high levels.
I think all these concerns are unfounded at this point since the PK devs have said multiple times that certain aspects, like visitors models, are more like stand-ins for the moment and I can see why they would first put in all the things that they did because people want the dinosaurs, so if they would put in other mechanics first, people would constantly scream for more animals (I see that all the time in the comment sections of their social media posts. I think it's better that they take their time with the management and Ai overhauls.
The team is extremely small so I rather wait a few years more than have something half cooked rushed out. The game is out, it's getting regular updates, there are frequent hot fixes and they listen to concerns from the community. And I might be biased here because I know some of the devs and follow the project very closely but besides some bugs I see no issue with the pace of development in the moment.
I might also be biased because I work in paleoart and in paleo we are used to wait sometimes decades for certain publications to come out, besides the point but it trains your patience. This is nothing compared to me waiting 6 years for a paper that I made an illustration for to be published so I can finally post the image online.
My concern, as I said multiple times, is not the quality or the updates atm. It's the other end of the gaming industry atm. Many A+ games are rushed. But many indie titles never get released. I love this project so much and I want it to succeed. I just see the problem it all takes so long because of the small team.
Plus, and that's nothing against their talent, especially management and people are so so so hard to nail. So many big studies failed with it.
And yes I agree, people always want what they don't have. But I try to see it as a whole. And that's where my issue lies.
The people bother me to the point I don't want to open the park I'm building on. I know that will likely be fixed later, especially now that they're giving staff and management focus. It's just lacking a bit of personality that is in PZ or JWE2. Because it's not done, I keep looking forward to the next updates.
Same!
I agree. I barely touched the game because I can't stand the guests. Got the game on release, but I'm not mad because I understood the risk; small studio, small publisher and ambitious project. Still, I'm a bit disappointed. Not lucky with dino park games since I was dejected by JWE which I stupidly pre-ordered.
Personally, I think the foundation of PK is stronger than Planet Zoo or other similar types of games. Those other games are certainly impressive, but when you start to pry away the layers of them the mechanical layers to them have their limits. PK still has a lot of those mechanics that makes those other games great, but it fills in gaps and brings in totally new features that often leave me wondering "why isn't this the standard?" And then you remember just how indie this game is...No, I was an original Kickstarter backer way back when and I have only been thoroughly impressed since.
It's indeed insane what they have achieved!
I didn't realize how much I depended on guest reactions like in Planet Zoo for creative satisfaction until I started building in PK. The creepy PK robots should be removed until they actually start doing something other than randomly walking around. It is a very affordable game however so I don't feel bad if I don't use it as much as PZ and I hope with time it will be as entertaining to play.
I have just started playing this game and its mechanics are just so good!! However, the people make me close the park and just some bugs and glitches
I haven't gotten the game yet only because it's not the fully finished game. I'm just holding out and waiting until the game has a full release.
You nailed the Guest aspect. That was my biggest concern since the first Trailer dropped, while everything else looked fantastic, the people looked pretty dead to me. To actually see Guests interact and enjoying themselves with your creation is what makes a Theme Park/Zoo Game for me. But until then, it will remain untouched in the Library.
ive been following pk from 2016. i remember there was another project called mesozoica, its good to see how far prehistoric kingdom has come
Apparently mesozoica was a scam just to take peoples money. They asked for money to help develop the game but took the money and ran.
@@andrewpayne5093 yes I remember that. I also remember some people discussing pk team was part of mesozoica but the lead dev was scetchy so they split apart
@@monkeydsasco9200 The precursor of PK+Mesozoica was Jurassic Genetics, an attempt to make an unlicenced sequel to Jurassic Park Operation Genesis. Aside from the obvious legal issues, one of the project leads became notorious for stealing art assets. This led to a mass-walkout of almost the entire devteam in early 2014 who set up PK as a successor project with no connection to the Jurassic franchise. One of those early devs (Max) served as head of public relations and ran PK's social media. Towards the end of 2014, he left PK under highly acrimonious circumstances and founded his own dinosaur-zoo project (Mesozoica) in direct competition with his former colleagues.
If I wanted a great dinosaur park management game, I would play the Jurassic World Evolution game.
To me, the appeal of PK was paleo accuracy and the modular building system. So maybe I’m the minority, but I would actually just be happy to have more species, more props and building pieces, and transportation rides to flesh out creative opportunities. And more robust guest and animal behaviors would also help the game feel more complete.
So honestly, management tools and scenarios are pretty low on my wish list, since there already is a dino park building game to scratch that itch. Anyone else feel that way?
I have this game, I've had it so long I can't even remember when I downloaded it from Steam. I got it because I thought 'This looks like a cross between Jurassic World Evolution and Planet Zoo... Awesome!' However, I haven't played it anywhere near as much as those other games because I love playing the scenarios most and that's what I think is lacking for me in Prehistoric Kingdom at the moment.
I have played Planet zoo for 1681.1 hours and that's because I keep going back to play the career mode and timed scenarios. I do play in Sandbox sometimes, but I lose interest because I like having goals to keep me motivated.
Every time I see a Prehistoric Kingdom update announcement, I hope to see the introduction of a career mode or even a more in depth tutorial. Until they introduce one of those, I probably won't go back to the game.
This is exactly my point. I'm very fortunate I'm a sandbox person. The majority isn't
@RudiRennkamel I love playing sandbox mode in Planet Zoo but I rarely get past building the entrance and a couple of enclosures because I lose inspiration. I have so many unfinished zoos
its sad that the cave bear, megaloceros and bison are not be added yet... they are planned, but not added yet.
my fav game ever and its not even close to being finished yet
starting your video with "this is a video i did not want to make" is such a fucking meme. The only thing missing is the wounded britisch/amarican voice
Sorry I can't. Bad at accents despite my own German:D
The dinosaurs need to interact, hunt and herd together. This is a major drawback.
That's already being worked on
@@joschuaknuppe5849 Yeap but till then, its not a real simulator. Just a nice exhibition.
I hope someday the devs can add in exhibit animals.
Great video
Thank you!
Its great in vacuum, but its in a market against the biggest dinosaur media franchise on the planet, which had teamed up with the best park management focused game company thats been around since 1990s bringing decades worth of experience. Its an uphill battle which sadly is very one sided.
PK had that small window between JWE1 and JWE2 to drop the game and made the biggest impact , but against monster of a game company and experience which Frontier have, time will favor the latter.
Ruddiii ich hab das Spiel selber aber es ist sehr schwer da es noch immer nur auf Englisch ist ich verstehe viel Englisch aber im Spiel mit all seinen Kniffen und Tricks fällt mir das super schwer nich da rein zu fummeln
Deshalb doch eher Planet Zoo aber Ich hoffe das Prehestoric Kingdom bald mal im German Overlay spielbar wird
Wat?! Natürlich gibt's PK mit deutscher UI! Die Stimme von Nigel Marven ist immer noch Original aber sonst gibt's das ganze Spiel in ner passablen deutschen Fassung.
Finally a youtuber who isn't constantly glazing prehistoric kingdom!
well, those are kind of the reasons why I did NOt buy the game yet. Im love to build and the animals are stunning... but why build when there is no simulation and management? I just miss the reason, challenge and stuff that made management sim games fun. Its just like a doll house, same as sims 4 :D just pretty to build and look at.
I see your point in the things you say in your video, but I want to say that I'm a bit tired of these kinds of videos, not least because it contributes to a problem I feel is seen with many indie games.
game is a demanding thing and making it takes a lot of time and there are many aspects in it, as you say yourself, the game is still being developed and many of the core systems have not been incorporated at all, now we are already talking about whether the game is enough
if we are not willing to throw our eggs in one basket as a community and support the project there will be more stories like the mesozoica game and all dino dino content we will get in for this style of game the end will be meduim developed park builder with jurassic park theme or a DLC for eg planet zoo.
Totally get what you´re saying, however I feel like we must balance out where to protect a project and where to be fair also for the people spending their money on something.
I mean look at Manor Lords for example, totally different story and may be released as a fully finetuned title. There is no golden way of doing it.
And I personally think the focus of PKs development would need to change in order to get to a working "game" sooner than later. Adding content over years is way more easy to do and to sell
like you say its a very hard way to getting a inde game out and in this type of game are very complex
manor lord im very knowing about but im also afried fore its going to be the new normal for if it hold op like it see its a one time wonder
i think they working on the game mekanisk first and there will coming content to the game the next update starting to look like they starting to work on gameplay :)
but i understand but i also think there are a trendt for you youtubers to make drama maby its not what you try to do but after bigfry i starting to see a loot of pro consumer youtuber
i hope this game not end like mezosoica and im afreid fore to must dest trust will kill it look on star citysen its a very long story a loot of ting have ben say but they tryinig somting there all most out of this world but they have some problem i know
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I just want PC2 to have most of these building features in it like rescaling and a better path system.
I can prefer new pathing over scaling but yes ! Give it to us now
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The guests are the reason for me to not play. I always want guests like planet zoo...
Prehistoric Kingdom is great and all, but besides it's cons and pros...
it's sorta not a game for me, coz if ya add modular building to your game then we aren't friends (im an old school player, im used to prebuild structures like in ZT2 or JPOG, im making my own game aswell and it doesn't have modular building, just old-fashioned building techniques as in ZT2).
You can just play with prefabs with no issue. Nobody is forcing you to use modular building.
The feeling is mutual. When i bought PZ I was so confused & ended up using the steam workshop to use the "pre built" by the community. But it did not applied perfectly and needed some adjustments. I kinda gave up and now i play PZ for watching ppl zoo and do some minor editing. I wish simulation/building game have EZ mode for ppl like me😅
I really want the fnece issue fixed i dont wnat to have to put the invisible fence to keep the dinos in also...dinos need jiggle it would make them seem more meaty that plastic also it is updating like the isle slooowly
Jup that's the point
The Isle releases an update every half year, but PK has had far more frequent updates. Only when they completely revamped locomotion was there a wide gap in between.
Whats the issue with invisible fence ? They can walk through it , it just needs to be there so the game can have an idea of where is the habitat , how big is it , how much water and forest does it have and what animals and bioms are used . U can just delete it if u dont want it there is absolutely no problem, also the game is in early access its not fully releasd so it is within expectations that there are some bugs in the game , the team is also quite small the last update was 2-3 months ago i dont think that quite bad , the last update added 4 new species , new navigation ( swimming ) mechanic , a new map , a new biome and new fonts and in this update this month they added 2 species with alternates , meaning 4 species , a new map , updated biomes and some structures and also a new structure theme its not bad at all for a small development team
@@night.panther4870 I don't like putting a regular fence down and then the invisible 1 to keep dinos in the enclosure
@night.panther4870 it annoys me alot and gets repetitive after a while
Early access games. Yeah just wait til its out people dont fall for it.
I've been wondering for awhile how they even still have the funds to keep this game running. Ik its a small dev team and they probably aren't getting paid a ton, but the launch sales for this game aren't the greatest and all the dlc content is free. This would explain the slow content releases, but eventually with how base game sales are performing, I don't know if they're going to be able to keep this game alive for much longer. The game desperately needs new content, and with the pace they are going they'll be lucky to keep players around or even bring in new players for much longer. We are in a different Era of gaming where newcomers expect quicker and more mainstream content. It doesn't have to be a lot but something to chew on for a few months is what gaming companies need at the very least. And with PK not even charging for content makes me feel like the team might be self funding a lot and working a lot of overtime to get some of this out.
Seems like the community around park building games is mostly based on creativity and mind blowing builds, not so much management skills.
I could be way off, but I wonder if they shifted development focus away from all these new management tools and more time to releasing new species, building themes, biomes, and guest/animal behavior to allow for greater creativity and diversity. I would imagine marine species or tour vehicles would create way more hype than how the DNA gets extracted or how to assign staff members to pick up poop. Right?
Game is dead on arrival
We need a Challenge Mode like in JWE
for example yea!
100 percent disagree. I hope, pray, will sell my first born, for Planet Zoo 2 to include a more realistic rendering to humans if it ever becomes a thing. They way they all move together in groups with the same exact animations in PZ ruins the visuals of the game for me and most of my friends. But listening to you I can imagine that Frontier has been listening to the so called influencers when it comes to this, I wish RUclips did not give you guys such a platform to ruin good things.
I would be proud if my tiny reach would influence a game like this 🤣 dude chill, it's a artistic style that overcomes a lot of issues with real depiction of people. And it's many times proven that this helps as long as you can only do people like...well in PK. I mean look at JWE2, the people are lifeless and emotionless.
If, only if, they find a way to make realistic people with emotions, diversity and loads of animations - hey I'm sold.
They don't have to be super realistic either, no one is asking for that. But something that at least does not look like a coconut with painted eyes and a mouth, reminds me of Russian cartoons from the 60s.
There are a million games and cartoon movies outhere with cool looking artistic renderings of people that do not have to be exactly life like.
Also one of the worse things that Frontier did is having so many of them, moving all at once in large groups, it looks tacky and conjested. There is no need to have so many visitors, individual movements with less visitors would look way cooler.@@RudiRennkamel