yeah I think his take on Rhemondre is gonna age poorly, they spent a lot of money on him, when they fed him the ball he had good stats and they got rid of zeke.
Someone probably mentioned this but the issue I have with this analysis is what if these offenses improve? For example I could see the titans and maybe even the panthers be better. In that case it might be a decent situation for the rbs?
Vegas is actually pretty trash at projecting these kinds of things de pre-season, so don’t expect these teams to actually be the worst offenses in the NFL
If I were ranking these guys for redraft, it would be as follows: Devin Singletary - The Giants are bad, but he will be a true bellcow here. There really isn't anyone to steal workload from him. Javonte Williams - If you believe he can get back to his pre-injury level, he's a good ADP value. In 2021 he was scored 181.4 half-PPR fantasy points, which would have ranked as RB20 last year. Tony Pollard - I think he is overpriced, and he will be in a timeshare with Spears, but he is a better deal than the other two listed here. Pollard won't get the workload he had last year, so the comps really don't matter. Rhamondre Stevenson - He is going as RB18, which is far too high. He was RB31 on a points per game basis last year and he will lose the third down role to Gibson. Based on the underdog over/under lines, he will be a low end RB3 this year. Jonathan Brooks - He went out in November last year with an ACL, which means he could be out until this November. Hed also will likely not be 100% until 2025 either. RB22 is an insane price point for him. In all honesty, the only ones here I will consider are Singletary and Williams, the rest are just too expensive.
Pollard is so overrated. He’s gonna end up a 1B to Spear’s 1A. It’ll be a bit of a committee, but trust me, Tyjae Spears will creep up as the dominant back.
Hey mason, great vids. Most of these mock drafts are still rb heavy and I have a feeling my league is going to be as well. It is half ppr, no k, 2 flex… would you still go wr heavy.
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If you do a vid on the chargers, can you analyze the rushing upside of herbert in this new offense? I feel like that is going unnoticed and might be a buy low opp on herbert since hes basically free in drafts this year
I love this dude but i specifically remember in the beginning of the season last year him saying “yeah so I drafted a lot of Tony pollard this year” but now since he had a down year he says he never drafted him😭😭. I get it’s for marketing but dude you don’t gotta cap. I remember listening to him and I drafted him in the second of my 12 man ppr league but I had a feeling his production wasn’t going to be what was expected so I traded him for AJ Brown and Damion Pearce. And obviously I won the trade in the long run but I remember commenting on his stream and he said he didn’t like the trade 😭😭
@@hunterwagner4130 I mean it’s all situational… that’s why I’m staying away from Henry, Pitman and Nabers this year… I don’t play for money… but I’ve never missed the playoffs
@@casboi7472 I got logic behind all the guys I’m staying away from Henry had the least yards per carry and yards after broken tackle of his career last year, he’s 30 with not a lot of tred on the tires, the ravens run out of the gun and Henrey doesn’t do that, even to the extent Harbaugh openly expressed concern, and finally the ravens are replacing 3 linemen with a second round rookie, a second year guy and another guy who’s name I can’t remember… I mean Gus Edward’s had 13 TDs in Baltimore and still was RB 14… Henry’s going as the 10th RB, even with all those question marks
For Singletary, the Giants had a 3rd string QB playing last year, and did not have a game breaking WR. Last time Jones was the Giants QB for the year, they won 10 games and won a playoff game. I'm drafting Singletary at that price.
But if Vegas knew more than us, wouldn't they give us odds that would lead us to make bets which they know will favor them, meaning they probably can't be trusted?
Amon Ra will never finish as WR1, but bijan could be RB1. If coming 2nd or 2nd last is all the same in your league, play for upside and draft Bijan. History favors the bold!
You could argue a good RB makes an offense good, and good RBs perform no matter what… Listen to the names you listed… Chuba, Warren, Peterson with Washington, Murray at age 32 being tossed between 2 teams, Pierce, Bell with the Jets… guys washed… well and so on and so on Outside of James Robinson (in 2020) you don’t see these no names guys break through, but you do see the big name guys, proven guys break through… And put some respect on Jordon Howard’s name… put up 1000 yards and at least 9TDs with the bears until he was traded… and then played 2nd fiddle to sanders in Philadelphia… Howard got hurt with the eagles and they just threw him aside…
Rather than looking at individual RB's, you should look at team RB production. You aren't taking injuries or games played into consideration. Maybe look at fantasy points per game for these guys. You don't exactly define what "finish" is.
I draft receiver heavy grab RBs later only need them to score like 10 points and I end up in the championship every year the RB position is dead unless you have a healthy CMC
any reason why Nick Chubb isn't getting drafted in the top 40 rb? He should be good to go for week 1, I think he's worth a shot given his potential upside
The take on pollard is alittle confusing based on the flock best ball ranking. If he’s not a great upside pick based on the offense why is the overall flock expert rank like a round in a half higher than adp?
Real question is, who will be the bottom 5 offensive teams in the NFL? Raiders, Broncos, Panthers, Vikings, Giants, Commanders, Patriots, Browns, Titans? Could be any of these teams. Plus what if a QB goes down like Rogers, Cousins etc.. Add those teams to the list of possibilities
@@waltergregg3706 Pretty solid selections, I'm sure a curveball will mix things up that we don't see coming tho. I liked Maye in college, I have a feeling with Polk and Stevenson they could get out of that bottom 5
@fundamentalbear8347 It will be a team that only has 1 or 2 stars at best on offense and loses them to injury for a significant portion of the season, or they just aren'tgood enough to change the outcome. I see teams like the Giants and Chargers as potentials for the worst spots.
I have a league where I can keep three players and I have the second pick in the draft. The players I have are Chase, JJ, St. Brown, Williams, Hall, Laporta and Gibbs. Who should I keep? I’m thinking Hall, St. Brown and JJ?
Think brooks is going to put up points once hes healthy. Bryce threw to gibbs a lot in alabama. Im not a believer in Ja'Tavion Sanders and if bryce is checking down I can see it going to brooks and hubbard which will lead to a lot of targets.
I think you are putting far too much credence in Stevenson's contract. Van Pelt likes using two RBs, he even did it when he had Nick Chubb, who is on a completely different level than Stevenson. Antonio Gibson will be the passing down back. Stevenson will not likely pay off at his current ADP. He's going to be a low end RB3 this year.
@@Flockfantasy i got a chance to give up Ferguson and a 2025 2nd to get Hockenson and a 2026 3rd. My other TE are Kittle/ Greg Dorch/ Noah Grey. Should i do it? Thank you in advance!
Only a few minutes in but a bit problem with this is that we are pretty bad at projecting which offenses are going to be completely terrible. Edit: why not just give full context and show how often the projected bottom 5 from Vegas are actually the bottom 5? Edit 2: immediately taking shots at pats…sure I agree it’s likely they are shit.. But You know who was a projected bottom 5 last year? The Texans. A bet on Mondre is a bet on Maye and that whole offense taking a large step forward because of it. Useless video for Underdog BB honestly.
From a quick scroll through the video, it seems like it’s jsut horrible offense = bad RB pick. My question is if you find can find an RB who as a talent is projected to be a lower talent at RB on a surprisingly great offense, they can be super valuable, some offenses that come to mind are Dallas, Texans, and bengals
Bad offense = higher chances they go down early in games. Trailng early on = bad game script (gameplan of team) w/ means RB gets less touches. Even w/ those touches, they'll be inefficient. Good offenses may nto have the best talent, but time and time again the NFL has proven if you have a good O-Line, a good passing offense, and the RB you have is athletic enough, they have the potential to thrive in fantasy even if they aren't the most skilled.
Stevenson is meh to me. Low rushing between numbers and catches a ton of passes from dump offs and bad QB play.; not impressive to me. Brooks is accurate hoping for a gamble to pay off on the second half of the year. Singletary I’ve been fine with actually. Hardly any competition behind him and durable. Pollard is also meh for me and Williams let me down last year, not expecting much.
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These videos always so funny to look back on after the season
Why is that
@@ItsBLADE42Some player projections end up being super bad
Can you do a video analyzing what percent of top 24 running backs were waiver wire before the season started. Goes hand in hand with zero rb build
Like this idea!
@@Flockfantasy me too it’s a good idea please do the Vid I will appreciate it 🙏
Does the microphone sound off to y'all?
No not to me
Yeah it does sounds a bit off but can really tell with the pops
Ya a little bit of gain or something for sure. It gets a little distorted when you amplify your volume at all. Sound engineer owes you a couple laps
Not really
gain is a bit heavy
Im in a 2 keeper league, last year was our first season and I lucked out because my keepers are CMC and Breece 🙌
Not me praying this wouldn’t be about Stevenson for him to be the first guy shown 😭
I keep drafting Gus Bus.
I can’t stop 😂
I had him for the 2 games he went off last year than traded high.
Mason, it would be cool to see adp incorporated in the stats showing rb top finishes on worst offenses
Looking at usage trends for Rhemondre makes no sense. With BB gone and a new staff coming in, we have no idea what that offense is going to look like.
They just paid him. You think it’s to not use him??? Seems pretty clear what’s happening with that
@@dakotawiggins833 Yeah i meant it like that, he said his usage is trending down in the video
yeah I think his take on Rhemondre is gonna age poorly, they spent a lot of money on him, when they fed him the ball he had good stats and they got rid of zeke.
Someone probably mentioned this but the issue I have with this analysis is what if these offenses improve? For example I could see the titans and maybe even the panthers be better. In that case it might be a decent situation for the rbs?
Vegas is actually pretty trash at projecting these kinds of things de pre-season, so don’t expect these teams to actually be the worst offenses in the NFL
If I were ranking these guys for redraft, it would be as follows:
Devin Singletary - The Giants are bad, but he will be a true bellcow here. There really isn't anyone to steal workload from him.
Javonte Williams - If you believe he can get back to his pre-injury level, he's a good ADP value. In 2021 he was scored 181.4 half-PPR fantasy points, which would have ranked as RB20 last year.
Tony Pollard - I think he is overpriced, and he will be in a timeshare with Spears, but he is a better deal than the other two listed here. Pollard won't get the workload he had last year, so the comps really don't matter.
Rhamondre Stevenson - He is going as RB18, which is far too high. He was RB31 on a points per game basis last year and he will lose the third down role to Gibson. Based on the underdog over/under lines, he will be a low end RB3 this year.
Jonathan Brooks - He went out in November last year with an ACL, which means he could be out until this November. Hed also will likely not be 100% until 2025 either. RB22 is an insane price point for him.
In all honesty, the only ones here I will consider are Singletary and Williams, the rest are just too expensive.
Great
I feel like pollard is going to be a rb 25 so I feel his Adp is a steal do you have him finishing below 32 in ppr and half ppr ?
Pollard is so overrated. He’s gonna end up a 1B to Spear’s 1A. It’ll be a bit of a committee, but trust me, Tyjae Spears will creep up as the dominant back.
@@WenegadeWaiduh I respectfully disagree. 55 pollard 45 spears both are good picks depending on your team composition
At :37 of video, "I wonder if this is alot of overthinking and then you talk yourself out of a player. Pre draft anxiety."
Bishop Sankey my goat
You should look at the same bottom 5 offense idea with WRs. Super curious how Dionte Johnson's chances are looking
Hey mason, great vids. Most of these mock drafts are still rb heavy and I have a feeling my league is going to be as well. It is half ppr, no k, 2 flex… would you still go wr heavy.
By fourth/fifth round my best picks have been Gus bud or tyjae spears?
Need some ESPN mock draft vids/strategies for those who don't have underdog available in their states😢
Draftkings? Fanduel? They have a few other platforms that have money tournaments. If you're not playing for anything, and just for fun, what's the point, ya know?
If you do a vid on the chargers, can you analyze the rushing upside of herbert in this new offense? I feel like that is going unnoticed and might be a buy low opp on herbert since hes basically free in drafts this year
I love this dude but i specifically remember in the beginning of the season last year him saying “yeah so I drafted a lot of Tony pollard this year” but now since he had a down year he says he never drafted him😭😭. I get it’s for marketing but dude you don’t gotta cap. I remember listening to him and I drafted him in the second of my 12 man ppr league but I had a feeling his production wasn’t going to be what was expected so I traded him for AJ Brown and Damion Pearce. And obviously I won the trade in the long run but I remember commenting on his stream and he said he didn’t like the trade 😭😭
Spears is the clear cut RB 1 A
What scoring system are you using? In half PPR these guys finished: Hall 4th, Barkley 12th, Warren 25th, Hubbard 26th & Stevenson 36th.
Calling CMC a land mine to avoid last year didn’t age well. He will get some right and some wrong.
So you have a one in 5 chance of a BOTTOM 5 offense having a top 10 RB… just pick the best name with most upside…
Damn near my takeaway too😭
@@hunterwagner4130 I mean it’s all situational… that’s why I’m staying away from Henry, Pitman and Nabers this year… I don’t play for money… but I’ve never missed the playoffs
@@Thoughtpologeticswhy Henry?
@@casboi7472 I got logic behind all the guys I’m staying away from
Henry had the least yards per carry and yards after broken tackle of his career last year, he’s 30 with not a lot of tred on the tires, the ravens run out of the gun and Henrey doesn’t do that, even to the extent Harbaugh openly expressed concern, and finally the ravens are replacing 3 linemen with a second round rookie, a second year guy and another guy who’s name I can’t remember…
I mean Gus Edward’s had 13 TDs in Baltimore and still was RB 14… Henry’s going as the 10th RB, even with all those question marks
For Singletary, the Giants had a 3rd string QB playing last year, and did not have a game breaking WR. Last time Jones was the Giants QB for the year, they won 10 games and won a playoff game. I'm drafting Singletary at that price.
that third stringer was outplaying their starter for a minute.
javonte will also be a couple years off the acl tear too
But if Vegas knew more than us, wouldn't they give us odds that would lead us to make bets which they know will favor them, meaning they probably can't be trusted?
PPR redraft league. Do I go Bijan or Amonra at the 6?
Amon Ra will never finish as WR1, but bijan could be RB1. If coming 2nd or 2nd last is all the same in your league, play for upside and draft Bijan. History favors the bold!
Bijan 100%
When your team is down 2 scores the run game going into the 3rd quarter becomes irrelevant if you actually want to win.
How accurate is Vegas at predicting the bottom offenses year in year out when it comes to helping predicting possible fantasy numbers?
Simple. Compare previous seasons projections to end results
Pollard is gonna win me a lot of money this year
Yeah right
@@andreshernandez6053 keep sleeping that alright 👍 you can have your opinion
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD JORDAN HOWARD WAS… 😢
With all due respect, your takes the last couple seasons have gotten me into trouble for the most part. I will be selecting several of these players.
What about drafting Brooks in Underdog weekly winners?
You could argue a good RB makes an offense good, and good RBs perform no matter what…
Listen to the names you listed… Chuba, Warren, Peterson with Washington, Murray at age 32 being tossed between 2 teams, Pierce, Bell with the Jets… guys washed… well and so on and so on
Outside of James Robinson (in 2020) you don’t see these no names guys break through, but you do see the big name guys, proven guys break through…
And put some respect on Jordon Howard’s name… put up 1000 yards and at least 9TDs with the bears until he was traded… and then played 2nd fiddle to sanders in Philadelphia… Howard got hurt with the eagles and they just threw him aside…
It's almost like you should avoid guys on bad offenses.
Rather than looking at individual RB's, you should look at team RB production. You aren't taking injuries or games played into consideration. Maybe look at fantasy points per game for these guys. You don't exactly define what "finish" is.
Yeah this is a really bad approach to this topic. When it comes to RB's look at run block win rate and the general play calling scheme.
I have one question should i draft marvin harrison or chris olave im in a full ppr league
Marv no brainer
Agree 💯
Are NFL season long bets not available in FL? I seen you post the projections for the season in the video.
Does Amon Ra’s draft stock go up slightly after finding out about his MRI in week 4 of last season?
You forgot Ekeler. Tiny version of Antonio Gibson
I draft receiver heavy grab RBs later only need them to score like 10 points and I end up in the championship every year the RB position is dead unless you have a healthy CMC
When you won Best ball 150k how many lines did you have?
Good takes
any reason why Nick Chubb isn't getting drafted in the top 40 rb? He should be good to go for week 1, I think he's worth a shot given his potential upside
0% chance Chubb is ready to go week 1
He’ll be on the PUP
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He had a major knee injury. The same knee he injured in College. Two major injuries on the same knee means I'm not drafting once.
Good stuff 🪿
Thanks for naming all my RBs 😅
The take on pollard is alittle confusing based on the flock best ball ranking. If he’s not a great upside pick based on the offense why is the overall flock expert rank like a round in a half higher than adp?
Real question is, who will be the bottom 5 offensive teams in the NFL? Raiders, Broncos, Panthers, Vikings, Giants, Commanders, Patriots, Browns, Titans? Could be any of these teams. Plus what if a QB goes down like Rogers, Cousins etc.. Add those teams to the list of possibilities
Panthers, Broncos, Saints, Patriots, and Commanders are my choices.
@@waltergregg3706 Pretty solid selections, I'm sure a curveball will mix things up that we don't see coming tho. I liked Maye in college, I have a feeling with Polk and Stevenson they could get out of that bottom 5
@fundamentalbear8347 It will be a team that only has 1 or 2 stars at best on offense and loses them to injury for a significant portion of the season, or they just aren'tgood enough to change the outcome. I see teams like the Giants and Chargers as potentials for the worst spots.
I say it’s between Stevenson and Williams who will hit… Identical situations…
I have a league where I can keep three players and I have the second pick in the draft. The players I have are Chase, JJ, St. Brown, Williams, Hall, Laporta and Gibbs. Who should I keep? I’m thinking Hall, St. Brown and JJ?
Yeah Hall & your 2 favorite WRs
4 man league ?
Hall, Chase, ARSB
Depends on what round those players will be kept
@@MambaSauce24 no I just sold my whole team last year to get JJ and Chase and got lucky with the others
Also consider these teams SoS
Brooks in dynasty is a hold. Redraft u don’t draft him
I traded for Chuba in my Dynasty then used my 1.03 pick to select Brooks
Todd Gurley was amazing his career ended because of an injury
Think brooks is going to put up points once hes healthy. Bryce threw to gibbs a lot in alabama. Im not a believer in Ja'Tavion Sanders and if bryce is checking down I can see it going to brooks and hubbard which will lead to a lot of targets.
l got a team starting Breece Hall & Jamyr Gibbs on DraftKings
I was able to get that once on underdog and i was able to get JJ & MHJ once
Hit wr hard right after. Win% drops drastically when waiting on wr. Even when stacking two really good ones
Gibbs was dropping close to the end of the 2nd rd a month ago due to injury news during a spring practice. I have a lot of different starts with him
Las Vegas doesn't get everything right. Look at the odds last year with rams and Texans.
what % of people are ahead of FF what % of people create ADP ??
All I did was sing diamonds last night 😂 funny you mention it this video😅
Haha sounds like a good night
@@Flockfantasy exactly
Derrick Henry or Devonta smith in my keeper league
I think you are putting far too much credence in Stevenson's contract. Van Pelt likes using two RBs, he even did it when he had Nick Chubb, who is on a completely different level than Stevenson. Antonio Gibson will be the passing down back. Stevenson will not likely pay off at his current ADP. He's going to be a low end RB3 this year.
It's laughable that the Vikings and raiders offences are expected to be better than the Titans.
It’s laughable to think that titans offense will be better than the Vikings
Who do you think is WR 1 this year?! I’m saying St. Brown?
Boring, but Lamb
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Ceedee was WR1 last season and will be WR1 once again
“Joseph add-die” really shows your age
Need an 8th for $250 8 man ppr league, lmk is someone down
Breece was top 5 year last year…?
Let’s go!!
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@@Flockfantasy i got a chance to give up Ferguson and a 2025 2nd to get Hockenson and a 2026 3rd. My other TE are Kittle/ Greg Dorch/ Noah Grey. Should i do it? Thank you in advance!
How come guys like Swift and Zamir go so much higher in ESPN redraft mocks? Dumb money?
Only a few minutes in but a bit problem with this is that we are pretty bad at projecting which offenses are going to be completely terrible.
Edit: why not just give full context and show how often the projected bottom 5 from Vegas are actually the bottom 5?
Edit 2: immediately taking shots at pats…sure I agree it’s likely they are shit.. But You know who was a projected bottom 5 last year? The Texans. A bet on Mondre is a bet on Maye and that whole offense taking a large step forward because of it. Useless video for Underdog BB honestly.
From a quick scroll through the video, it seems like it’s jsut horrible offense = bad RB pick. My question is if you find can find an RB who as a talent is projected to be a lower talent at RB on a surprisingly great offense, they can be super valuable, some offenses that come to mind are Dallas, Texans, and bengals
Instead of scrolling the video why don't we watch it? :)
Bad offense = higher chances they go down early in games. Trailng early on = bad game script (gameplan of team) w/ means RB gets less touches. Even w/ those touches, they'll be inefficient.
Good offenses may nto have the best talent, but time and time again the NFL has proven if you have a good O-Line, a good passing offense, and the RB you have is athletic enough, they have the potential to thrive in fantasy even if they aren't the most skilled.
For the Steelers last year, harris did better than Warren so you should have used him instead
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Idgaf about Vegas I’ll bet money NE isn’t the WORST prob bottom 5 tho
Stevenson is meh to me. Low rushing between numbers and catches a ton of passes from dump offs and bad QB play.; not impressive to me.
Brooks is accurate hoping for a gamble to pay off on the second half of the year.
Singletary I’ve been fine with actually. Hardly any competition behind him and durable.
Pollard is also meh for me and Williams let me down last year, not expecting much.
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Are you still saying brooks is better than Najee????
For BBM yes
I have also been drafting a bit of javonte, but I think that the Broncos will be better than the second worst team in the NFL.
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