It must be so frustrating for Dr. Schweitzer to have to deal with this all the time. You make a once in a lifetime discovery in a field you are passionate about and idiots try to corrupt your findings to push a personal agenda. It is very good of her to spend the time to personally debunk such things.
I appreciate that she is in it for the facts, but to keep invoking god(9:23) and that the reason it all makes sense and is ordered is because of that god, is kind of annoying in itself. She keeps talking about evidence, but is assuming the motivations and plans to a god for which she has no evidence.
@@EdwardThimbleHands Yeah the invoking is a tad annoying but she is still keeping it as a belief and not as a Fact and as such she won't tell you it's a Fact if asked.
@@guytheincognito4186 Well, at the very least, it wouldn't be a fact that directly affects the outcome of results that she is citing as evidence. The overall nature of her worldview is what I was questioning. If the worldview you hold is that things were magicked into being, even when you agree we me it puts into a suspect position as to how you truly came to your conclusion. In other words: the answer might be right, but how you got it matters in this case also. Anyway, I'm mentioning it as a general complaint against believers(especially in scientific, medical, and other practical fields) because, if their faith is held as fact for them, you don't know what other fantasies or superstitions influence their opinion or motivate their actions.
@@EdwardThimbleHands I understand and agree with your point there. I merely defended her because she is very critical minded and out of respect for her honesty and work ethic. As such i feel it would be a fallacy to conflate her character with that of the general godbotherer through simpel generalisation. I understand the worry such a person in general cause but i feel it would be inaccurately attributed to her based on what I've seen of her and heard from intervjues etc.
One of my brothers is a YEC. I have to remain at least four feet from him at all times at family gatherings because when he brings up this subject, it's almost a reflex to slap him. I don't think anybody else would stop me, either. I sent him a link to your channel and told him to get back to me when he had watched at least the first four parts of this series. Have not yet heard back from him.
Science! Skepticism! Research! Intellectual Honesty! Heart! By your powers combined, we are THE NOTIFICATION SQUAD! (RUclips doesn't usually actually notify me of anything, so I never get to make jokes like this)
Paul, you have some of the best skeptical/atheist content on RUclips. I love how articulate, civil, and informative you always are. We need more like you. Thanks, man. Keep doing what you do.
Thank you Dr. Schweitzer for taking the time out of your schedule to be a voice for reason. I appreciate that the majority of Christians are not represented by these YEC organizations.
I predict this video is going to far get more hits from being reposted in chats to debunk YE creationists who reuse the overfiltered 7th hand claims from webpages that never read the source materials than from subs and suggestions. Many thanks to Mary and Paul for this conversation and expansion/clarification of her findings.
_How many times does this need to be addressed before they (creationists) give up on dishonestly misrepresenting science?_ ... considering how long they have been using the same old claims based on poor logical arguments, I think we will be dealing with this for a long, long time to come.
Wahoo!!! _Always_ makes my days a bit easier when I see Paulogia's posted a new video! Yay, thanks Paul! I actually watched this one earlier but wasn't able to comment at the time, rewatched some Paulogia and Morgan Ham & AIG episodes and here I am again, saying: yay! thanks for sharing!
Rodney McLachlan 😖 Where is the honesty in maintaining two opposite states of mind? Either her science is correct to date, or her religion has precedence. There is no room for both in an intelligent person’s mind.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat I was referring to her honesty in sticking to the scientific method, and holding that above the claims of faith. She clearly doesn't believe the bible is literal either. Theism and a science are not mutually exclusive if your position is that one explains the natural, while the other explains the supernatural. Fact and fantasy might be another way of putting it.
Necko Agic 😖 I do not applaud anyone who chooses to cling to nonsense in the face of immense scientific research. Dr. Schweitzer is a real life personification of Robert Louis Stevenson’s ‘Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde’ albeit without the violence. The one true position she should claim is that of being a Deist.
I remember how big of news this was when it first came about, my dad (I'm a pastor's kid) was sooooo stoked. It wasn't until the last year or so I learned what the discovery actually meant. Even when I was a kid I had already been inoculated by science so I knew it was fishy but I couldn't ever dispute it because I didn't know exactly why.
Awesome video as always Paulogoa. Dr Schweitzer is an awesome addition every time. I love to hear her debunk the twisting creationists do to try make her work/field of expertise fit there beliefs.
Is it, though? Is it really? I got told that the word 'data' comes from Latin. In Latin, a noun ending in -a is a singular nominative of the first declension, while a noun ending in -um is a singular accusative of the second declension.
Another excellent video. I'm certain that if I had stumbled across Paul's videos while I was still a creationist (had they existed back then), my journey out of superstition and to reality would have been much quicker than it actually was. I do not believe that any intellectually honest Young-Earth Creationist can watch Paul's content can maintain a young-earth position. By "intellectually honest", I mean they actually care whether or not their beliefs are true.
I love how Dr. Swietzer is a Christian, and therefore has every reason to include her findings to support the Bible if they actually did. The fact how she lamented how creationists hijacked all her findings should speak volumes to how her findings really don't lend any Credence to young Earth creationism. I also found it hilarious when I learned how much more similar dinosaurs are to birds than lizards.
Nice to hear Dr. Schweitzer once again. So sad she's been engaged by creationists in a "Christianity vs Evolution" war (and by "war" I mean false dichotomy), especially for her who's both an evolution biologist AND an Christian. 7:48 "I can't explain it to be honest." Another mined quote made by creationists in order to give us a God of the Gaps ("We don't know, therefore God"). Kind of a funny quote, since the explanation came from that same Dr. Schweitzer and her team through their study "A role for iron and oxygen chemistry in preserving soft tissues, cells and molecules from deep time."
I've probably said this before but what would AiG and various types of Hovind have to point at if it wasn't for the hard work of actual scientists? Without the work of palaeontologists, biologists, chemists, physicists, astronomers, computer scientists, philosophers and others, there would be less for them to misrepresent. A thank you from them would not be out of place.
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...then they could just do what they want: wield total control with impunity. No-one to question or oppose them. A practical theocracy.
I love this series probably more than you Ham and AIGs series. I know at some point it will come to an end but I wish it didn’t have too. I really like how you discredit all points of the “documentary?”.
The sad thing about being this early for a Paulogia video is there are no amusing trolls in the comments. Um... were you there? No new information... er... fossils prove the flood... No, it's no good, I can't do this by myself.
AiG allows people to comment on a lot of their stuff (i know some of their "movies" have comments) but they _heavily_ monitor them. At least while they are newly posted. I got my AiG ban by directly calling the AiG account holder out in the comments when they tried to lie about the Lucy find in someone else's post.
We're you there? no beecuse your a dirty athust whos going to hell 4 belivin in since because science is a religion u need to listen to fir dr hovind. There you are. 😉
I used to think they were deluded but honest in their beliefs , however the lies in this film of theirs shows them to be peddling "snake oil" for financial gain. At what point I wonder can you be prosecuted for fraud?
Fun fact: Hippocrates thought that female hair was a sexual organ that absorbed sperm. Paul was influenced by the science of the day when he instructed women to cover their heads while praying and also for the sake of the angels. Michael Heiser does a good piece on head coverings.
I want to point out that the "Nest Video" panel at the very end of this video is still only showing the base "coming soon" panel. I know this is a "next video" to follow because I'm watching the whole playlist of the series, and I see "9/12" within the playlist section of RUclipss UI.
There are ZERO salvation "issues". And stop applauding Mary. Sure it's nice that she doesnt pollute her work with her beliefs, but without the "moderates" we could eradicate the extremists. Think about THAT Mary... please.
I'm not sure... her lines were lifted from the hangout I participated on on Steve McRae's channel (link in description), and distinctly out of order from the original.
There are commandments about wearing mixed fabrics, stoning virgins, keeping slaves, no one follows them either. The only consistency is non consistency.
Mary brings up a question that has vexed to me for a long time: why would the Christian God mock up so much evidence in the natural world leading us away from the rib story he wants us to believe in?
Read the bible. The book portrays their god as a complete psychopath with a strong narcissistic streak and severe anger management issues. Not to mention the sadism. Look at all the famous stories from the bible. Adam and Eve were reverse psychologied into eating the forbidden fruit; the flood was because humans angered god, yet he murdered every living thing; The Pharaoh was ready to let the jews go after the 5th terrorist attack, but god "hardened his heart", i.e. magically changed his mind, just so he could keep torturing a whole country. And look at the whole Jesus situation! God raped a married woman so she became preggers with his son, a son he only made to let people torture him to death in a most painful way. And why? To forgive mankind's sins. Except god could also just have said: "You know what? Forgive and forget." Or Job. All Satan (cast as the bad guy but actually just the voice of reason) did was remark that a guy who has everything has it easy to believe in a benevolent higher power. God could just have shown some poor bastard who also believed. (Or, better yet, not nave any suffering in the world), but he proceeded to completely destroy the poor fuckers life and took everything, just to brag about his faith racket being waterproof.
To give an analogy of how wrong Eric is on this one (and, to be fair, *all* apologists), imagine a co-worker you don't like. He's a jerk and you hate him. Then, as you're reading the police blotter from three counties over, you read an entry about someone getting mugged by a person, probably female, who looks nothing like your jerk co-worker. Eric just called the police and reported your jerk co-worker for that mugging. In the wrong *country.* Using one of his physically abused childrens' toy telephones that makes funny noises when you pull the string. About the only thing Eric would've gotten right in that analogy is that the mugging was committed by a person. Every other detail (sex, location, time, date, etc.) was wrong. Still following the logic? Well, Eric (and all apologists who misuse Dr. Schweitzer's find) got everything wrong except that some of the words they used are also used in Mary's published papers. It's similar to how you could claim to be able to recite _War and Peace_ from memory, but then all you do is say the alphabet and claim that since War and Peace uses all those letters you basically recited the whole book. Low effort bullshit and a blatant, inexcusable lie.
"I'm a piano virtuoso!" says Eric Hovind. "That's not a piano. That's a Tonka truck toy. It's not even a musical instrument. You're just smashing the toy on the ground over and over." says everyone else, followed with "Exactly how hard did your daddy beat you in the head when you were a kid?"
I haven't seen it. I've been boycotting all Marvel movies for the last year or two because they keep doing this whole 'post-credit scene' thing. It's just a cheap (and really frustrating) trick to make people stay and watch the credits. Movies these days don't even need credits at the end; If I want to know who was in a movie, I can just go on Wikipedia. I shouldn't have to waste a few minutes reading a pointless list of names before they finally show the last scene. [Sorry. Rant over now.]
"Coming up, but I am sorry about the onions were not around yet Besides that you don't want a fosiil onion, they are rocksolid and poisenous. Extra Mushrooms?'"
One wonders why "like structure" has to be used. What is the issue here? Could it be that the finds are so out of the expectation of what is possible based on presumptions of what is possible that this language is thought to be needed in explaining the finds? Trolling? Okay.
I heard about her once in the same regard as this video, you know what she found and said, being taken far far far out or context. Was that here, or did I hear it on or in another place or platform? Here or not, if it's all the same everyone needs to know how she was misrepresented. Keep up the good work Paulogia, whether you read this or not it needed to be said because you make the world a little better, and a little more rational. Thank you.
To say that you have a "fresh" DNA in these fossils is like to say that you have carrots when you have a glass of carrot juice. You have some of the materials (probably most of them), but you don't have the whole thing, just the materials.
It’s too bad there wasn’t DNA that was testable in that TRex and other fossils so we could see where they fall in our Aminote family tree and see if they match with cladogram we have now. Maybe we can finally see which side of the Dinosaur family tree birds lie on.
Ok, P-Gizzle, I have an off topic question...it's tough living life as a converted atheist, as you know, but is it tougher living as a cartoon? I mean, theists must not believe you exist because there is clear video showing how you are a cartoon and not human. BOOM, consider Christians served! Your welcome.
What is so shocking about there being fossilized red blood cells? Effectively, a blood cell is a single-celled entity - not unlike bacteria or yeast. Micropaleontology is a field of study, and fossilized microbes have been known for a long time. Given that the animal in question was fossilized, exposed to the conditions where fossilization can occur, its blood being in those conditions is a given. The question of it having DNA though is laughable.
Dr. Mary Schweitzer is awesome, but I couldn't disagree more that this "is not a salvation issue". Because how are you saved? By accepting Jesus as your savior. How do you accept him? By believing. How do you believe? By being convinced anyone should care what the bible says. Why should anyone care what the bible says when it gets so much wrong about our world? If the Garden of Eden story is false, there is no sin, if there is no sin, Jesus died for nothing, assuming he even existed and was crucified at all.
It must be so frustrating for Dr. Schweitzer to have to deal with this all the time. You make a once in a lifetime discovery in a field you are passionate about and idiots try to corrupt your findings to push a personal agenda. It is very good of her to spend the time to personally debunk such things.
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She has stated how much it annoys her.
I appreciate that she is in it for the facts, but to keep invoking god(9:23) and that the reason it all makes sense and is ordered is because of that god, is kind of annoying in itself. She keeps talking about evidence, but is assuming the motivations and plans to a god for which she has no evidence.
@@EdwardThimbleHands
Yeah the invoking is a tad annoying but she is still keeping it as a belief and not as a Fact and as such she won't tell you it's a Fact if asked.
@@guytheincognito4186 Well, at the very least, it wouldn't be a fact that directly affects the outcome of results that she is citing as evidence. The overall nature of her worldview is what I was questioning. If the worldview you hold is that things were magicked into being, even when you agree we me it puts into a suspect position as to how you truly came to your conclusion. In other words: the answer might be right, but how you got it matters in this case also.
Anyway, I'm mentioning it as a general complaint against believers(especially in scientific, medical, and other practical fields) because, if their faith is held as fact for them, you don't know what other fantasies or superstitions influence their opinion or motivate their actions.
@@EdwardThimbleHands
I understand and agree with your point there. I merely defended her because she is very critical minded and out of respect for her honesty and work ethic.
As such i feel it would be a fallacy to conflate her character with that of the general godbotherer through simpel generalisation. I understand the worry such a person in general cause but i feel it would be inaccurately attributed to her based on what I've seen of her and heard from intervjues etc.
"If we're going to have a debate about science, can you at least be honest about it?" Bwa ha ha ha ha! That cracks me up every time.
And they all use that same plaintive tone of voice... I wonder if they practice it?
Have you listened to how fast they all talk? Say it quickly so you don't get a chance to figure out the BS they are spewing.
One of my brothers is a YEC. I have to remain at least four feet from him at all times at family gatherings because when he brings up this subject, it's almost a reflex to slap him. I don't think anybody else would stop me, either. I sent him a link to your channel and told him to get back to me when he had watched at least the first four parts of this series. Have not yet heard back from him.
Update?
Science! Skepticism! Research! Intellectual Honesty! Heart!
By your powers combined, we are THE NOTIFICATION SQUAD!
(RUclips doesn't usually actually notify me of anything, so I never get to make jokes like this)
Just as in Captain Planet, I feel the "Heart guy" is getting the raw end of the deal :D :D
cute thanks for sharing your wit
@@Archermit
Maybe we should have him replace "heart" with "intellectual humility". Lol
Paul needs at least a million more viewers/subs. Love the content
at least! spread the word.
oh don't worry ... you'll get there
Yep best channel on RUclips. Hate it when Paul has breaks!
Paul, you have some of the best skeptical/atheist content on RUclips. I love how articulate, civil, and informative you always are. We need more like you. Thanks, man. Keep doing what you do.
Thanks, Malachi!
Thank you Dr. Schweitzer for taking the time out of your schedule to be a voice for reason. I appreciate that the majority of Christians are not represented by these YEC organizations.
I predict this video is going to far get more hits from being reposted in chats to debunk YE creationists who reuse the overfiltered 7th hand claims from webpages that never read the source materials than from subs and suggestions. Many thanks to Mary and Paul for this conversation and expansion/clarification of her findings.
You are all of the awesome all of the time!
You are.
Both of you are! And go get a room you two! But love both of your content, keep making great vids!
Come on. Every time?
Can't be helped :)
THANKS!
"Uh...janitor. janitor."
"What is it, scientist?"
_How many times does this need to be addressed before they (creationists) give up on dishonestly misrepresenting science?_
... considering how long they have been using the same old claims based on poor logical arguments, I think we will be dealing with this for a long, long time to come.
"Dem Soft Bones" got me in the preview in the last episode. It got me again at the beginning of this one..
Wahoo!!! _Always_ makes my days a bit easier when I see Paulogia's posted a new video! Yay, thanks Paul!
I actually watched this one earlier but wasn't able to comment at the time, rewatched some Paulogia and Morgan Ham & AIG episodes and here I am again, saying: yay! thanks for sharing!
Morgan back soon... I hope
Paulogia
Yay! I hope so too!
I liked Dr. Schweitzers honesty. Nice work Paul.
Rodney McLachlan 😖 Where is the honesty in maintaining two opposite states of mind? Either her science is correct to date, or her religion has precedence. There is no room for both in an intelligent person’s mind.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat
I was referring to her honesty in sticking to the scientific method, and holding that above the claims of faith. She clearly doesn't believe the bible is literal either.
Theism and a science are not mutually exclusive if your position is that one explains the natural, while the other explains the supernatural. Fact and fantasy might be another way of putting it.
I applaud Dr. Schweitzer for her ability to compartmentalize her belief in god and her scientific career. Great video, Paulogia.
*Necko Agic* Another option; The Who singing "Substitute"
Necko Agic 😖 I do not applaud anyone who chooses to cling to nonsense in the face of immense scientific research. Dr. Schweitzer is a real life personification of Robert Louis Stevenson’s ‘Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde’ albeit without the violence. The one true position she should claim is that of being a Deist.
great video as usual...love your background flashes, that Replacements(one of my favourite bands for 30+ years)flash was priceless...
I remember how big of news this was when it first came about, my dad (I'm a pastor's kid) was sooooo stoked. It wasn't until the last year or so I learned what the discovery actually meant. Even when I was a kid I had already been inoculated by science so I knew it was fishy but I couldn't ever dispute it because I didn't know exactly why.
Awesome video as always Paulogoa.
Dr Schweitzer is an awesome addition every time. I love to hear her debunk the twisting creationists do to try make her work/field of expertise fit there beliefs.
Thank you, Dr. Schweitzer, for acknowledging that data is plural.
Are you talking about his brother, Lore ?
Is it, though? Is it really?
I got told that the word 'data' comes from Latin.
In Latin, a noun ending in -a is a singular nominative of the first declension, while a noun ending in -um is a singular accusative of the second declension.
Data does come from Latin. It's the plural form. The singular is datum. It's a second declension neuter noun.
I think you might be right there, actually. I kinda forgot about the neuters (been a few years).
Another excellent video. I'm certain that if I had stumbled across Paul's videos while I was still a creationist (had they existed back then), my journey out of superstition and to reality would have been much quicker than it actually was. I do not believe that any intellectually honest Young-Earth Creationist can watch Paul's content can maintain a young-earth position. By "intellectually honest", I mean they actually care whether or not their beliefs are true.
That's the key, isn't it? Caring if your beliefs are true.
I knew it!!! I knew it would be about Dr. Schweitzer.
Thumbs up for showing a picture of the band the Replacements.
Truly enjoying this series and your analysis of their claims.
Awesome series! So happy you broke it down like this. Excited to see a new one.
I love how Dr. Swietzer is a Christian, and therefore has every reason to include her findings to support the Bible if they actually did. The fact how she lamented how creationists hijacked all her findings should speak volumes to how her findings really don't lend any Credence to young Earth creationism.
I also found it hilarious when I learned how much more similar dinosaurs are to birds than lizards.
I try to use Christian scientists wherever possible. That they use Mary themselves is somewhat crazy.
Paulogia 😖 What? Do you mean Mary Baker Eddy? (Runs for the hills . . . !)
Me scrolling through new subscription vids: "I wonder what new vids came out"
*sees Paulogia GPL vid*
*clicks immediately*
Liked before watching. Was not disappointed.
The comment about iron make me chuckle, because I have an amateur interest in history and archaeology, where iron has a bad habit of rusting away.
Nice to hear Dr. Schweitzer once again. So sad she's been engaged by creationists in a "Christianity vs Evolution" war (and by "war" I mean false dichotomy), especially for her who's both an evolution biologist AND an Christian.
7:48 "I can't explain it to be honest." Another mined quote made by creationists in order to give us a God of the Gaps ("We don't know, therefore God"). Kind of a funny quote, since the explanation came from that same Dr. Schweitzer and her team through their study "A role for iron and oxygen chemistry in preserving soft tissues, cells and molecules from deep time."
I've probably said this before but what would AiG and various types of Hovind have to point at if it wasn't for the hard work of actual scientists? Without the work of palaeontologists, biologists, chemists, physicists, astronomers, computer scientists, philosophers and others, there would be less for them to misrepresent. A thank you from them would not be out of place.
...then they could just do what they want: wield total control with impunity. No-one to question or oppose them. A practical theocracy.
Tumbs up for The Kinder egg! It’s nice to see something from my country. Nice work anyway! I love this series.
I love this series probably more than you Ham and AIGs series. I know at some point it will come to an end but I wish it didn’t have too. I really like how you discredit all points of the “documentary?”.
The sad thing about being this early for a Paulogia video is there are no amusing trolls in the comments.
Um... were you there? No new information... er... fossils prove the flood...
No, it's no good, I can't do this by myself.
AiG does not allow anyone to comment on their videos.
@@rajanogray9088 That's because it would completely destroy their viewership. They wouldn't be able to scam nearly as many people.
AiG allows people to comment on a lot of their stuff (i know some of their "movies" have comments) but they _heavily_ monitor them. At least while they are newly posted. I got my AiG ban by directly calling the AiG account holder out in the comments when they tried to lie about the Lucy find in someone else's post.
We're you there? no beecuse your a dirty athust whos going to hell 4 belivin in since because science is a religion u need to listen to fir dr hovind.
There you are. 😉
@ Agreed!
I used to think they were deluded but honest in their beliefs , however the lies in this film of theirs shows them to be peddling "snake oil" for financial gain. At what point I wonder can you be prosecuted for fraud?
Pisses me off that they got someone who sounds JUST LIKE Neil DeGrasse Tyson!! 😫
There is no bar low enough; they'll dig under it !
Creationist = Intentional self deception
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Love the "We're Alive" opening parody.
Always good, sir. Thanks.
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Paul thank you for inspiring me.
Keep up the great work Paul!
I see Part 10 in the list of related videos on the right, but that spot on the video still says "Coming Soon."
Paul, there's an audio issue around 11:41 with Tony's narration - really enjoyed the video
had to come back to thumbs up, I forgot the first time.
Honestly these videos are insanely good!
Fun fact: Hippocrates thought that female hair was a sexual organ that absorbed sperm. Paul was influenced by the science of the day when he instructed women to cover their heads while praying and also for the sake of the angels. Michael Heiser does a good piece on head coverings.
As always. Brilliant.
I want to point out that the "Nest Video" panel at the very end of this video is still only showing the base "coming soon" panel. I know this is a "next video" to follow because I'm watching the whole playlist of the series, and I see "9/12" within the playlist section of RUclipss UI.
Otherwise, great video and series on the topic. Keep up the good works. :)
The soft tissue argument is getting really, really annoying. Before it was just annoying
I'm with you.
It's because it's so sensational.
It is annoying, but so are the rest of the dishonest arguments, like the infamous Darwin quote about the complexity of the eye.
Thanks. All your videos are quality, and this one is just as good.
that means a lot Dominic, thanks.
Fantastic work.
Thanks!
Keep on doing what you do Paul, I love your content.
Oh those crazy YECs!
This is excellent. Your track should be added to the film.
Again, my Patreon buck well spent.
(...the age of the earth) "it's not a salvation issue."
This is great. Lots of points yecs should hear and actually THINK about. Thanks Paulogia!
Thanks, Leisa
There are ZERO salvation "issues". And stop applauding Mary. Sure it's nice that she doesnt pollute her work with her beliefs, but without the "moderates" we could eradicate the extremists.
Think about THAT Mary... please.
I got the feeling that Mary was uncomfortable near the end. Why was that?
I'm not sure... her lines were lifted from the hangout I participated on on Steve McRae's channel (link in description), and distinctly out of order from the original.
💚 *quality content* 💚
Hey, I heard you're gonna be on Drunken Peasants!! Can't wait!! 😎👍
should be fun! not my usual thing.
There's a commandment about dishonesty. Isn't there?
There are commandments about wearing mixed fabrics, stoning virgins, keeping slaves, no one follows them either. The only consistency is non consistency.
Thou shall not bear false witness, except on topics like biology and cosmology.
Mary has my sympathy. So clever yet so confused.
Mary brings up a question that has vexed to me for a long time: why would the Christian God mock up so much evidence in the natural world leading us away from the rib story he wants us to believe in?
Read the bible. The book portrays their god as a complete psychopath with a strong narcissistic streak and severe anger management issues. Not to mention the sadism.
Look at all the famous stories from the bible. Adam and Eve were reverse psychologied into eating the forbidden fruit; the flood was because humans angered god, yet he murdered every living thing; The Pharaoh was ready to let the jews go after the 5th terrorist attack, but god "hardened his heart", i.e. magically changed his mind, just so he could keep torturing a whole country. And look at the whole Jesus situation! God raped a married woman so she became preggers with his son, a son he only made to let people torture him to death in a most painful way. And why? To forgive mankind's sins. Except god could also just have said: "You know what? Forgive and forget."
Or Job. All Satan (cast as the bad guy but actually just the voice of reason) did was remark that a guy who has everything has it easy to believe in a benevolent higher power. God could just have shown some poor bastard who also believed. (Or, better yet, not nave any suffering in the world), but he proceeded to completely destroy the poor fuckers life and took everything, just to brag about his faith racket being waterproof.
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN?
Appreciate the Alice In Chains shout out.
Dem bones, dem bones, dem soft(dry) bones.
To give an analogy of how wrong Eric is on this one (and, to be fair, *all* apologists), imagine a co-worker you don't like. He's a jerk and you hate him.
Then, as you're reading the police blotter from three counties over, you read an entry about someone getting mugged by a person, probably female, who looks nothing like your jerk co-worker.
Eric just called the police and reported your jerk co-worker for that mugging. In the wrong *country.* Using one of his physically abused childrens' toy telephones that makes funny noises when you pull the string.
About the only thing Eric would've gotten right in that analogy is that the mugging was committed by a person. Every other detail (sex, location, time, date, etc.) was wrong. Still following the logic? Well, Eric (and all apologists who misuse Dr. Schweitzer's find) got everything wrong except that some of the words they used are also used in Mary's published papers. It's similar to how you could claim to be able to recite _War and Peace_ from memory, but then all you do is say the alphabet and claim that since War and Peace uses all those letters you basically recited the whole book. Low effort bullshit and a blatant, inexcusable lie.
All the right notes, but not _necessarily_ in the right order. *Eric Morecambe*
"I'm a piano virtuoso!" says Eric Hovind.
"That's not a piano. That's a Tonka truck toy. It's not even a musical instrument. You're just smashing the toy on the ground over and over." says everyone else, followed with "Exactly how hard did your daddy beat you in the head when you were a kid?"
Dino science & Paul 😍😍
3:21 Awwww, still too soon!!!
Oh no, say it isn't so! Answers in genesis quote mining and distorting the truth!?!?! I'm so shocked.
Whoa! Infinity War spoilers! :O
lol jk, who hasn't seen it at least twice already?
Me. Never gonna watch it even once.
I haven't seen it.
I've been boycotting all Marvel movies for the last year or two because they keep doing this whole 'post-credit scene' thing. It's just a cheap (and really frustrating) trick to make people stay and watch the credits. Movies these days don't even need credits at the end; If I want to know who was in a movie, I can just go on Wikipedia. I shouldn't have to waste a few minutes reading a pointless list of names before they finally show the last scene.
[Sorry. Rant over now.]
Haven't seen it yet either
I have a Blu-ray copy....
But so much time has passed that I don't really have any interest
Distort, exaggerate and out right LIE is standard practice for Creationists.
I believe dem dino bones aren't me. The Devil put dinosaurs here.
7:06 - I'd like a slice of _T. Rex_ steak, please. Well done. With mushrooms and onions.
"Coming up, but I am sorry about the onions were not around yet Besides that you don't want a fosiil onion, they are rocksolid and poisenous. Extra Mushrooms?'"
One wonders why "like structure" has to be used. What is the issue here? Could it be that the finds are so out of the expectation of what is possible based on presumptions of what is possible that this language is thought to be needed in explaining the finds?
Trolling? Okay.
I agree that these people waste a lot of time that doesn't affect my day-to-day like.
Why didn't you animate Dr. Schweitzer?
Wesley for the win.
Ah, okay. Makes good sense.
I heard about her once in the same regard as this video, you know what she found and said, being taken far far far out or context. Was that here, or did I hear it on or in another place or platform? Here or not, if it's all the same everyone needs to know how she was misrepresented. Keep up the good work Paulogia, whether you read this or not it needed to be said because you make the world a little better, and a little more rational.
Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words, Galloe.
Lol who put a thumb down definitely cares less about facts and evidence
To say that you have a "fresh" DNA in these fossils is like to say that you have carrots when you have a glass of carrot juice. You have some of the materials (probably most of them), but you don't have the whole thing, just the materials.
And the narrator sounded suspiciously like Neil D. Tyson... but I'm SURE that wasn't intentional... cough.
I like her! :)
The original Bone, was that consentual?
Am I the only one who thinks they picked their narrator specifically because he sounds quite a bit like N.G.T?
Yet Mary says she believes in God because he can't be disproved, when will she use data to prove his existence?
Dino-jerkeys... actually might be a thing if dinosaur cloning & revival does become a reality.
...maybe like chicken jerkeys?
It’s too bad there wasn’t DNA that was testable in that TRex and other fossils so we could see where they fall in our Aminote family tree and see if they match with cladogram we have now. Maybe we can finally see which side of the Dinosaur family tree birds lie on.
NEW PAULOGIA! (happy dance)
I'd like to take this opportunity to express my massive crush on Dr. Mary Schweitzer. That is all.
Ok, P-Gizzle, I have an off topic question...it's tough living life as a converted atheist, as you know, but is it tougher living as a cartoon? I mean, theists must not believe you exist because there is clear video showing how you are a cartoon and not human. BOOM, consider Christians served! Your welcome.
they got a guy that sounds like neil degrasse tyson to muddy the waters i see.
nothing nefarious about that!
You just cannot defeat logic.
What is so shocking about there being fossilized red blood cells? Effectively, a blood cell is a single-celled entity - not unlike bacteria or yeast. Micropaleontology is a field of study, and fossilized microbes have been known for a long time. Given that the animal in question was fossilized, exposed to the conditions where fossilization can occur, its blood being in those conditions is a given. The question of it having DNA though is laughable.
So are you trying to tell me a sky daddy didn't create this world and everything we see around us in 6 days, 6-10 thousand years ago?
Yeah, using Data... after all, he is fully functional. Wait, what have we been talking about?
That was most upsetting to see how dr Schweitzer's work was so misrepresented in EH's film. Has she sued Hovind?
There's nothing to sue for. Even if there were, what are the damages?
Working on Sunday? How un-Christian! ;P
I'm six hundredth and sixty six like. I'm a Christian (Old Earth). The irony is real lmoa :)
Winner of the most ironic creationist request?
"If you're going to talk about science could you please just be honest about it." Lol.
Nothing found in dinosaur bones folks. Nothing to see here. (Hand waving)
Now you got me craving a good thick deer steak.
Exercising my membership in the other PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals.
yum
Dr. Mary Schweitzer is awesome, but I couldn't disagree more that this "is not a salvation issue". Because how are you saved? By accepting Jesus as your savior. How do you accept him? By believing. How do you believe? By being convinced anyone should care what the bible says. Why should anyone care what the bible says when it gets so much wrong about our world? If the Garden of Eden story is false, there is no sin, if there is no sin, Jesus died for nothing, assuming he even existed and was crucified at all.