Great Video mate and an impressive software. If you turn off the modules it won’t make any changes to the images other than NR, so you could then layer two files in photoshop and bring back some detail into the bird if need be. This also solves the problem where dxo sometimes over sharpens the image. With the modules turned off that doesn’t happen either
I've been using the full program from which PureRAW was pulled out to sell on its own - DxO PhotoLab. It's their competitor to Lightroom, though it can work with Lightroom the same way as PureRAW, by sending its output to Lighroom as a DNG, but it has many more features, including lots of image-refining modules to improve clarity and geometric distortion. I frequently send its output into Lightroom, but sometimes just have it write out an processed JPEG to share.
Great stuff. A friend of mine has been using DXO for a while and loves it. I'm still a newbie in LR so I may have t wait to get into Topaz and then DXO. Great tips and thank you. My images will improve for sure once I use those softwares.
I am experimenting since a week with DxO and I think it is currently the best solution. If you compare the DxO RAW output with the out of camera JPG they are worlds apart.
Thanks Duade - still using old 7d /6d found your photo processing and software presentations really useful, especially on noise reduction. No waffle and clear presentations with "how to" examples. Really impressive.
Thanks Duade. I never thought how amazing this software is. Its like magic. How on earth did they remove the noise without almost not sacrificing the sharpness? That is crazy! Its a must have software. If anyone can afford a $6000 then it doesnt make sense why they cant afford this.
Excellent software Duade, lifted my most recent chestnut breasted mannikin 100-fold! Thank for sharing, much appreciated. The best circumstances and variables don't always align in the field, post processing with this new software really helps bring confidence, motivation and sanity back.
I use DxO PL and ACR. DxO is my favorite for heavy noise shots. Didn’t like Topaz at all. I have to mention you did not use Masking slider in LR. It helps sometimes to hide NR processing in plain parts of image. Thanks for great video.
I've been using DXO PureRAW for about 2 months now. I also have Topaz DeNoise. I find DXO PureRAW much easier to use. Love the batch processing. I've never shot over 3200 iso on my R6. Thank you for the RAW files, Duade. I ran them through DXO PureRAW and was amazed!
Excellent video - with some beautiful images too - Ive been using PureRaw2 for about a month and its amazing, Im also going back through my old RAWs from other Canon bodies such as the 350D from 2006, also the 40D and 80D and reprocessing them with great results. Something I dont think was mentioned is that it enables you to not only push your ISO up without worrying about noise but it also allows for much faster shutter speeds as well - which are needed on my present camera the EOS 90D and its very large files on a crop sensor which is great for tight cropping. Ive been getting great shots of the sparrows and starlings wings frozen as they visit my bird feeder - which is all I get in Manchester UK (birds not feeders) - by being able to use ISO 6400 and 1/5000 shutter speed. Thank you for a really interesting video mate.
I recently bought Photolab 5 and Filmpack 6... Love it... It does magic to my M43 photos which are known for noise in High Iso.... Now upto ISO 8000 Noise is not that big an issue anymore. And although I still like LRc which I have used for Years... Photolabs UI is utmost intuitive... Ony miss the Black and Whitepoint and tge Making with pressed Alt Button Great video 👍 Just subscribed your channel🤗
Nice one buddy! I've just bought it too, Jans fault!!! 😂 lol... i watched his vid and tried the 30 day trial did one photo and bought it straight away lol 😂 it'd pretty flippin impressive!
DXO and Topaz both seem to work okay. It looks like Topaz causes less change and makes a processed image that is more true to the original, but it seems that DXO is simpler, and the changes can be restored with a little more editing. DXO's changes do not offend. Thanks for this video!
Wow! Fantastic tool and so simple to use. I had a few very noisy images of Torresian Kingfishers in the mangroves I wasn't happy with, but this has cleaned them up exceptionally. Thanks Duade for sharing it. Really enjoy all of your videos.
I will try the Software next time. Looks very good and it seams to be the solution for MFT problems with high ISO. I am looking forward for the next generation of denoising software.
Again great and really informative video. I am glad I have found this channel. I think this PureRaw sw is a great piece of sw to keep my 7D Mk II running for a couple of more years and saves my from buying the R7 now.
Great video Duade. I am convinced after watching your video. Thanks also for the link to Sean Bagshaw and PhotoJoseph. I was quite surprised at the amount of noise in my Canon R5 images and I now understand that this is is function of the high pixel count. Tried Lightroom noise reduction, NIK Dfine and Canon DPP all with mixed results. So I am now keen to get DXO Pure raw. If I can get anything like the results you are achieving as well as Sean Bagshaw then I will be overjoyed.
I have downloaded the trial and found this to be a very effective tool to improve a lot of my old images. I spent a few hours finding some old noisy ones and DXO PureRaw cleans them up exceptionally well. Thanks for your video. Good work.
@@Duade I admire and enjoy your delivery, I also admire your images. I am into raptors and would love to see some Aussie ones. You shot the wedge tailed eagle and poste a single image if my memory is serving me well..😃
This...this may be what I need? I have some egret pictures that need some help. I'm not sure if it's noise, or just need a lens with more focal length, but I'm going to start with this
Thanks! I will use your link and check this out. The Topaz product has not been a winner for me and it appears DxO might be more what I need, especially when I use my Tamron lens. Also, I will go back to the recent video you did on the Tamron 150-600 lens and add another comment. I see you used it in some of these photos. I forgot to mention that when I use this lens on my Canon 5D IV I turn off the lens aberration setting. It seems to help lens performance. I don’t know why it helps. I also don’t know if this same setting would apply to R6 and R5 cameras.
Duane, Decided to try Topaz DeNoise on recommendation previous video. Hard to believe DXO PureRaw could improve. Is best practice really using both softwares in tandem? Maybe subject for future video…. Thanks for your focus, helping to resolve “noise” issues.
What software programs or plug-ins are good for scanned film images? You can scan (digitize) old negatives and slides to re-use them in the modern online/digital age. But scanned/film images look _different_ to digital files. They are routinely more noisy _('grainy'),_ even with low ISO films. I'd love to clean them up so they resemble modern DLSR and mirrorless files. Any ideas, viewers?
G'day, I don't have a lot of experience with scanned film images to be honest, you could try both Topaz and DXO Pure Raw via free trials to see which one works best, here are some links. Cheers, Duade DXO: tidd.ly/3hH0Kta Topaz: topazlabs.com/denoise-ai-2/ref/426/
I thought Topaz Denoise was great except I found it would often introduce strange artifacts somewhere in the image. I tried DXO Pure Raw and totally sold after doing a lot of side by side comparisons. DXO doesn’t introduce the weird artifacts that Topaz does.
Bit of a coincident. I’ve just finished processing a file back from 2006 taken with my 30D. I wanted to check out the new update to Topaz and compare it to DxO PhotoLab. The file was taken at 3200 and not only had a load of noise, but banding. DxO was much better than Topaz and completely removed the noise and banding. Like you I find DxO does a better job at extreme high ISO’s.
Great video, thanks. I bought Topaz after you reviewed it in the previous denoise video but after a quick test today I think I might also get DXO PureRAW. I like the way DXO can use my camera profile to correct the image as well as dealing with the noise. I'm not so keen on the slight colour shift, but that can be correct back in Lightroom or Photoshop. What I have found interesting is doing the initial processing of the RAW image in DXO first and then applying a gentle denoise in Topaz works well. I've only processed a few test shots of my cat this way (R6 + Sigma 150-600 Sport @ 500mm), but it seems you can get DXO to do the initial heavy lifting and then get rid of any residual noise in Topaz. If you are gentle with the amount of denoising in Topaz the final image can look even better than with DXO alone.
Wow, I'm finally convinced. I'm going to get one of those (using your affiliate link). Thanks! ps: I just bumped up my auto ISO limit to 25k. I shoot with the Canon 800mm f/11, so the extra stop or two will be very helpful. It makes shooting at small apertures a non-issue.
@@Duade I think this (Topaz Denoise) will be very useful, but so far, I'm very unhappy with Topaz denoise. Maybe I have a system problem, but right now it goes into an endless process in which it says "processing" but after over 30 minutes isn't doing anything. The tiff file shows up in lightroom, but is in no way improved from the original RAW file. I'll do the usual, restart/reboot, but this is disappointing. Not your fault, of course, but I didn't have anyone else to listen to my complaint. Sorry 'bout that.
After two restarts (?!), Topaz Denoise is now working! Yea! It's doing a better job in my side-by-side comparisons with Lightroom - equal or better noise reduction but with better sharpness. I suspect Adobe will catch up or even leapfrog Topaz, but for now, I'm happy and am busily rescuing some older, noisier images. And I've bumped up my R5 to 51K! Thanks for convincing me!
Thanks I downloaded the trial and did some tests but I want to do it again, it has great potential :), it must be studied how to insert it in the flow do it at the beginning is good, but you could insert it after having done the development in ACR O C1 :-)
Thanks for this info and examples. I wish this could be used as a Lightroom plug in. For now I’m thinking I’ll stick with DeNoise for simplicity in the workflow. Again, thanks for the complete and thorough review.
Thanks James, yes, NR can often make the images look a touch softer but I find the overall quality looks better compared to the very noisy image. Comes down to personal preference I suppose. Cheers, Duade
Great comparison. I prefer the Dxo photo of the willie wagtail. It looks to have better detail and sharpness. I’m going to test out the trial version and will use your affiliate link to buy after testing. Thanks.
Great video. Exactly what i wanted to try too. 😂 Just curious, will there be even more improvement if you perform dxo pure raw follow by Topaz noise? Thank you.
Hi Duade, great video, I would have helped you out but after the trial I purchased DXO last weekend sorry, I just was not happy with Lightroom the way it handles the R5 RAW files, DXO is definitely a work around. I did try Topaz but didn't like it, it gives photos that vinyl look, I think what you are calling painted :-)
Excellent video. Thanks for taking us through each stage of the process. It helps us to get familiar with a new software/interface. I will give PureRaw a try and see how it helps me! :)
Hi, Trouble is where do you stop? I have Topaz DeNoise and as you say works well, I also have On1 photo RAW 2021 and although ON1 have launched there new noise app NoNoise it will be available in the upgrade to ON1 photo RAW 2022 so silly to buy the stand alone option, I tried DXO Pureraw trial and found it to over process the images (mentioned to Jan Wegener on his video and he said turn of the auto camera profile) as I stated at the start "Where do you stop" no doubt someone out there will come up with a better option for noise reduction in a few months. Russ.
Russ, yes, I hear where you are coming from. I actually hope that Adobe themselves come up with something as I use Lightroom and Photoshop already. Cheers, Duade
As per usual, great information delivered so well. Question if I may? Can you bring the noise reduced file into lightroom and blend it with the original file so as to keep the subject untouched but utilize the noise reduced background, ie, having your cake and eat it?
G'day Peter, what you are describing can be done in photoshop using masks. This is what I do to apply NR to the background only. You can also do this with Topaz Denoise masks, you can mask out the subject which should then bring that file back to Lightroom. With DXO PureRAW you would have to use photoshop I think. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for this video. Let me try the 30 days trial too and then will buy. 👍 Is this licence is for lifetime? I checked the site but couldn’t find if it’s for lifetime or for a year!!! Any pointers would be great.
My understanding it is a lifetime licence for this version, I think what these companies are doing now is releasing new versions and then charging for those. Keep an eye on the sales as they often offer a discount. Cheers, Duade
Duade this is truly impressive results! Got a question for you. Does putting your camera in crop mode increase AF accuracy or at least decrease rolling shutter. What differences have you noticed if any. Thanks.
G'day Ravi, it's a balancing act, I find noise reduction can reduce the feather details in the bird. If it is very high ISO and there is lots of noise in the bird then I would use DXO on the bird also. Cheers, Duade 👍
It is great for sure only on my mac mini m1 i have big problems with processing i have to quit and start a lot of times before it finally works, it is terrible on Apple Silicon howevet DxO states it is compatible but it needs to have an * because it is not native it is working via Rosetta. On Intel macs it works great
Thanks for that, I was not aware of those issues. I have problems if Lightroom is open, it wont work, I have to close Lightroom before it will process the photo. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade It seemed to be an issue with Big Sur 11.5.1 on M1 macs, i just installed 11.5.2 from last week and all working fine! EDIT: after one batch of 6 photo’s it just stopped working again 😭
Hi Duade, I am a beginner in bird photography and using canon R7 with rf 100-500 lens. I use dxo pureraw4 for denoising. Here I face a problem, while editing in LRC, I send the file to dxo pureraw4 as plugin after just adjusting my white balance. But when the file is exported back to LRC , the basic panel slider names are changed. Why it's so? Is it a bug? Please advise. Thank you and hope you have recovered now and doing well
Do you think Pure Raw can compensate for the high noise levels (even at relatively low ISO) of the new Canon R7? or should I opt for a different camera?, Thanks
Kinda funny that I actually preferred the Jacky winter DXO file more than the ISO3200. The software is very impressive and from what I can tell, it seems better than topaz
Great software..used the trial version...but my only complaint is, it is slow to process and takes too much of processing time... If you wish to process 5 or 10 images then you will get bored
Santosh, yes, I probably should have mentioned that on some computers it does take some time. My R6 files take around 15 seconds and the R5 around 25 seconds on my PC. Cheers, Duade
What happened with the willy wag tail? only 1/500sec but ISO 25600! What was it, Midnight? haha! Thanks for the high ISO samples, its nice to know im not the only 1 battling noise on a latest camera. Ive taken some images at 6400 with clean image quality and some at the same ISO with terrible noise resulting in huge amounts of detail loss. This program looks like it cleans up the files nicely, good to see another option.
G'day Kurtis, I was shooting at high ISO on purpose to get some noisy images. Yes you would lower that SS to get a lower ISO in the field. Cheers, Duade 👍
sadly, couldn't play with the data and test (wanted to see how Neat Image v8 compared) as I'm running very old versions of Photoshop (CS6) and lightroom (v5) and I suspect that the camera isn't supported in LR5, so can't do anything with RAW.
David, you can use DXO PureRAW as a standalone product so you can run your own RAW images through that first. Then import the exported DNG into photoshop or lightroom to process. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I got the trial and used it on a RAW image taken with the Canon R5 then tried to process it with DPP4 but DPP4 doesn't work with png files. Not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Sorry to hear that it does not work with DPP, I think that maybe a limitation of DPP. Most image editors such Lightroom will process the DNG files. A free option I believe is GIMP which could be worth a try. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, thanks for this info - I will check into Lightroom. In case others experience this with DPP4 - I did check with DXO PureRAW and there seems to be no work around.
Great software and I love it. However, there is one small problem - I can't actually use it. You see it hard crashes my computer. I have a ticket out with the company support, but so far, no solutions. I spent the money for nothing...
Hi Duade thanks again for a very informative video. I tried last year to download Topaz, sadly my ageing laptop wasn't up to it. Thankfully this software is compatible. Like you i experimented with the 3 options. Deep Prime was fantastic, however 1 image took 45 minutes :[ If i was able to Crop a RAW image and save as RAW this would be brilliant. Is this possible? My Photoshop 2020 doesn't come with this option. Any ideas? PS Keep up the good work :]
John, I don't think you are able to crop a RAW file, some cameras do offer a slightly lower quality Raw file, on Canon its CRAW, I think Sony also does a compressed RAW file. These may help. My R6 files take around 15 seconds and the R5 close to 30 seconds on my PC. Cheers, Duade
Gday Johannes, there will be two versions in lightroom, the original RAW file and the DXOPureRaw DNG file. You can edit the DXO file as you would the original RAW file. Cheers, Duade
I tried DxO Pureraw and for me the images looks too artificial especially in the fury/feathery parts. Topaz is worst, EXCEPT the RAW method which do an amazing job when you use it in the standalone program, the other methods like Standard, Clean, Severe Noise are too artificial to my taste. The bad sides of Topaz is the horrible workflow and it alter the colors and exposure of the original, but it can be easily fixed. HOWEVER, all things considered, my findings were mostly done on photos around ISO 6400 crop sensors. I am not sure how it would perform with higher ISO.
Thanks, it does seem variable with each photo. I tend to use DXO on very high ISO over the entire image. Otherwise I will often use a mask and just use Topaz on the background. They are much better than they used to be and can be game changing for very high ISO. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for the recommendation. I bought this. While my photography skills are not up to par to push this to the limit, I did try them on Matt Granger's NEF files from his D850/810/500 comparison: ruclips.net/video/y_kk7QhS-MU/видео.html. The results are nothing less then impressive. It's shame that it doesn't recognise RAW files from my Samsung Note 9 or Google Pixel 6 Pro.
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Great Video mate and an impressive software. If you turn off the modules it won’t make any changes to the images other than NR, so you could then layer two files in photoshop and bring back some detail into the bird if need be. This also solves the problem where dxo sometimes over sharpens the image. With the modules turned off that doesn’t happen either
Ahh thanks for that, good to know. Cheers, Duade 👍
The DXO software clearly wins the day !
Thanks Robert, it is very good, Cheers, Duade
I've been using the full program from which PureRAW was pulled out to sell on its own - DxO PhotoLab. It's their competitor to Lightroom, though it can work with Lightroom the same way as PureRAW, by sending its output to Lighroom as a DNG, but it has many more features, including lots of image-refining modules to improve clarity and geometric distortion. I frequently send its output into Lightroom, but sometimes just have it write out an processed JPEG to share.
Great stuff. A friend of mine has been using DXO for a while and loves it. I'm still a newbie in LR so I may have t wait to get into Topaz and then DXO. Great tips and thank you. My images will improve for sure once I use those softwares.
This video was so informational! I don't have Topaz or DXO, but now I'm thinking I'll get DXO! I feel like I am always fighting with noise.
Thanks Caitlynd, maybe download the trial and give it a go on your noisy photos and see how it goes first. Cheers, Duade
Just downloaded the trial software and run some images through it and its game-changing for me shooting with APSC. Instant purchase thank you Duade.
My pleasure Jamie, it works very well on older APSC images. Cheers, Duade
I am experimenting since a week with DxO and I think it is currently the best solution. If you compare the DxO RAW output with the out of camera JPG they are worlds apart.
Thanks Michael, yes, it works very well, Cheers, Duade
Love the character that comes through on that first duck photo.
Berry, yes, I was happy with that shot. Cheers, Duade
Thanks Duade - still using old 7d /6d found your photo processing and software presentations really useful, especially on noise reduction. No waffle and clear presentations with "how to" examples. Really impressive.
Thanks for the feedback, great to hear it was helpful. Cheers, Duade 👍
Thanks Duade. I never thought how amazing this software is. Its like magic. How on earth did they remove the noise without almost not sacrificing the sharpness? That is crazy! Its a must have software. If anyone can afford a $6000 then it doesnt make sense why they cant afford this.
yes it is very impressive with how well it works. Cheers, Duade
I'm late to the party on this its def a game changer for me and as you say it's amazing revisiting photos you skipped before.
Great to hear Brad, it really is impressive, Cheers, Duade
Excellent software Duade, lifted my most recent chestnut breasted mannikin 100-fold! Thank for sharing, much appreciated. The best circumstances and variables don't always align in the field, post processing with this new software really helps bring confidence, motivation and sanity back.
Kiran, it is my pleasure, it is a fantastic tool should you have to bump up that ISO in low light. Cheers, Duade
I use DxO PL and ACR. DxO is my favorite for heavy noise shots. Didn’t like Topaz at all. I have to mention you did not use Masking slider in LR. It helps sometimes to hide NR processing in plain parts of image. Thanks for great video.
Thanks Ian, I appreciate the feedback, Cheers, Duade
Excellent video I compared it to Topaz and it definitely out performs in terms of results and time taken. I've now converted to DXO.
Steve, great to hear, Cheers, Duade
I've been using DXO PureRAW for about 2 months now. I also have Topaz DeNoise. I find DXO PureRAW much easier to use. Love the batch processing. I've never shot over 3200 iso on my R6. Thank you for the RAW files, Duade. I ran them through DXO PureRAW and was amazed!
that is great to hear, the R6 works very well at high ISO. Cheers, Duade
I stay with Topaz Denoise.
Just bought mine using your link. It was the spider attempting to balloon off of your hat around 6:26 that sold me. Hahaha.
Lol, thanks for using the link, the software is great. Cheers, Duade
Excellent video - with some beautiful images too - Ive been using PureRaw2 for about a month and its amazing, Im also going back through my old RAWs from other Canon bodies such as the 350D from 2006, also the 40D and 80D and reprocessing them with great results. Something I dont think was mentioned is that it enables you to not only push your ISO up without worrying about noise but it also allows for much faster shutter speeds as well - which are needed on my present camera the EOS 90D and its very large files on a crop sensor which is great for tight cropping.
Ive been getting great shots of the sparrows and starlings wings frozen as they visit my bird feeder - which is all I get in Manchester UK (birds not feeders) - by being able to use ISO 6400 and 1/5000 shutter speed. Thank you for a really interesting video mate.
Thanks Jim, yes, good point, you are free to use much higher ISO knowing DXO will clean up the files, Cheers, DUade
I just downloaded and installed it and I must say I'm very impressed with the results, thanks for the link.
dolly, that is great to hear, Cheers, Duade
Intelligence artificial is scary in certain way, that 5dmk3 shot was so beautiful really nice bird and nice red sun colors.
Thanks for the comment, Cheers, Duade
I recently bought Photolab 5 and Filmpack 6...
Love it... It does magic to my M43 photos which are known for noise in High Iso....
Now upto ISO 8000 Noise is not that big an issue anymore.
And although I still like LRc which I have used for Years...
Photolabs UI is utmost intuitive...
Ony miss the Black and Whitepoint and tge Making with pressed Alt Button
Great video 👍 Just subscribed your channel🤗
Peter, thanks for the info re photolabs, sounds like an interesting alternative to LR. Thanks for the sub, Cheers, Duade
Nice one buddy! I've just bought it too, Jans fault!!! 😂 lol... i watched his vid and tried the 30 day trial did one photo and bought it straight away lol 😂 it'd pretty flippin impressive!
Thanks JP, yes it is pretty incredible, Cheers, Duade
DXO and Topaz both seem to work okay. It looks like Topaz causes less change and makes a processed image that is more true to the original, but it seems that DXO is simpler, and the changes can be restored with a little more editing. DXO's changes do not offend. Thanks for this video!
Thanks, it is my pleasure, yes, they both work slightly differently and its nice to have both. Cheers, DUade
Wow! Fantastic tool and so simple to use. I had a few very noisy images of Torresian Kingfishers in the mangroves I wasn't happy with, but this has cleaned them up exceptionally. Thanks Duade for sharing it. Really enjoy all of your videos.
Ben, yeah, it's pretty incredible I must admit, great to hear it has helped your images. Thanks for the support. Cheers, Duade
Part of my workflow now, great software.
Great to hear Robert, yes it works very well. Cheers, Duade
I will try the Software next time. Looks very good and it seams to be the solution for MFT problems with high ISO. I am looking forward for the next generation of denoising software.
Ben, yes, it is a great tool to allow slightly higher ISO. Cheers, Duade
Again great and really informative video. I am glad I have found this channel. I think this PureRaw sw is a great piece of sw to keep my 7D Mk II running for a couple of more years and saves my from buying the R7 now.
Thanks Harald, yes, it works very well for sure, great to hear it works on the 7D well. Cheers, Duade
I am constantly using ISO 3200 to 6400 thanks to DxO.
That is great to hear, it is pretty amazing. Cheers, Duade
Great video Duade. I am convinced after watching your video. Thanks also for the link to Sean Bagshaw and PhotoJoseph. I was quite surprised at the amount of noise in my Canon R5 images and I now understand that this is is function of the high pixel count. Tried Lightroom noise reduction, NIK Dfine and Canon DPP all with mixed results. So I am now keen to get DXO Pure raw. If I can get anything like the results you are achieving as well as Sean Bagshaw then I will be overjoyed.
Grant, that is great to hear, it really is wonderful software that works very well. Good luck with your photography. Cheers, Duade
Wow. Thanks for this. I am going to go back to a few shots that I love but just too noisy and try it out
Good luck Celese, I hope it worked well for you. Cheers, Duade
I have downloaded the trial and found this to be a very effective tool to improve a lot of my old images. I spent a few hours finding some old noisy ones and DXO PureRaw cleans them up exceptionally well. Thanks for your video. Good work.
David, great to hear it worked well for you, it really is impressive. Cheers, Duade
Great video, love the spiders web on your cap. Wildlife at it's best.. Keep up the good work.😂👍🏾
lol yes, I noticed that, we do have plenty of spiders around here. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I admire and enjoy your delivery, I also admire your images. I am into raptors and would love to see some Aussie ones. You shot the wedge tailed eagle and poste a single image if my memory is serving me well..😃
Thank you, yes you have a great memory. Raptors are amazing and I need to photograph more of them. Cheers, Duade 👍
This...this may be what I need? I have some egret pictures that need some help. I'm not sure if it's noise, or just need a lens with more focal length, but I'm going to start with this
Thanks! I will use your link and check this out. The Topaz product has not been a winner for me and it appears DxO might be more what I need, especially when I use my Tamron lens. Also, I will go back to the recent video you did on the Tamron 150-600 lens and add another comment. I see you used it in some of these photos. I forgot to mention that when I use this lens on my Canon 5D IV I turn off the lens aberration setting. It seems to help lens performance. I don’t know why it helps. I also don’t know if this same setting would apply to R6 and R5 cameras.
thanks for the tip, I have heard this elsewhere also. Cheers, Duade
Brilliant review, mate! I’m sold! 😅
that is great to hear, thanks for the ongoing support, Cheers, Duade
Awesome presentation and amazing software!
Thanks, yes, it is very good, Cheers, Duade
Duane, Decided to try Topaz DeNoise on recommendation previous video. Hard to believe DXO PureRaw could improve. Is best practice really using both softwares in tandem? Maybe subject for future video…. Thanks for your focus, helping to resolve “noise” issues.
Blane, they are very similar to be honest, DXO possibly works better at really high ISO like 12800+ Cheers, Duade
Excellent walk through in a practical man er. I think I have to try out this software. Thanks for your video.
Kind Regards, Jan, DK
G'day Jan it is my pleasure, good luck with the trial. Cheers, Duade 👍
What software programs or plug-ins are good for scanned film images? You can scan (digitize) old negatives and slides to re-use them in the modern online/digital age. But scanned/film images look _different_ to digital files. They are routinely more noisy _('grainy'),_ even with low ISO films. I'd love to clean them up so they resemble modern DLSR and mirrorless files. Any ideas, viewers?
G'day, I don't have a lot of experience with scanned film images to be honest, you could try both Topaz and DXO Pure Raw via free trials to see which one works best, here are some links. Cheers, Duade
DXO: tidd.ly/3hH0Kta
Topaz: topazlabs.com/denoise-ai-2/ref/426/
An excellent review Duade. Being using PureRaw for some time and agree with your findings.
Thanks mate, yes it is a wonderful piece of software, Cheers, Duade
Impressive piece of software!! Worth to give it a try! Thanks for sharing!!
Josep, my pleasure, Cheers, Duade
I thought Topaz Denoise was great except I found it would often introduce strange artifacts somewhere in the image. I tried DXO Pure Raw and totally sold after doing a lot of side by side comparisons. DXO doesn’t introduce the weird artifacts that Topaz does.
Thanks Mark, yes, it is very good that is for sure. Cheers, Duade
Bit of a coincident. I’ve just finished processing a file back from 2006 taken with my 30D. I wanted to check out the new update to Topaz and compare it to DxO PhotoLab. The file was taken at 3200 and not only had a load of noise, but banding. DxO was much better than Topaz and completely removed the noise and banding. Like you I find DxO does a better job at extreme high ISO’s.
Great to hear Frank, we are lucky to have these options, Cheers, Duade
Great video, thanks. I bought Topaz after you reviewed it in the previous denoise video but after a quick test today I think I might also get DXO PureRAW. I like the way DXO can use my camera profile to correct the image as well as dealing with the noise. I'm not so keen on the slight colour shift, but that can be correct back in Lightroom or Photoshop. What I have found interesting is doing the initial processing of the RAW image in DXO first and then applying a gentle denoise in Topaz works well. I've only processed a few test shots of my cat this way (R6 + Sigma 150-600 Sport @ 500mm), but it seems you can get DXO to do the initial heavy lifting and then get rid of any residual noise in Topaz. If you are gentle with the amount of denoising in Topaz the final image can look even better than with DXO alone.
Tosh, I agree, I have used Topaz to remove a little bit of noise in the background after DXO, they do seem to work well in combination. Cheers, Duade
What a great idea, thanks for that, will definitely try this!!
outstanding comparison, as always very detailed and professional . Thankyou
Thanks Ian, I appreciate it, Cheers, Duade
Wow, I'm finally convinced. I'm going to get one of those (using your affiliate link). Thanks! ps: I just bumped up my auto ISO limit to 25k. I shoot with the Canon 800mm f/11, so the extra stop or two will be very helpful. It makes shooting at small apertures a non-issue.
Kevin, glad to hear it is working well, it does give you a bit more flexibility that is for sure. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I think this (Topaz Denoise) will be very useful, but so far, I'm very unhappy with Topaz denoise. Maybe I have a system problem, but right now it goes into an endless process in which it says "processing" but after over 30 minutes isn't doing anything. The tiff file shows up in lightroom, but is in no way improved from the original RAW file. I'll do the usual, restart/reboot, but this is disappointing. Not your fault, of course, but I didn't have anyone else to listen to my complaint. Sorry 'bout that.
After two restarts (?!), Topaz Denoise is now working! Yea! It's doing a better job in my side-by-side comparisons with Lightroom - equal or better noise reduction but with better sharpness. I suspect Adobe will catch up or even leapfrog Topaz, but for now, I'm happy and am busily rescuing some older, noisier images. And I've bumped up my R5 to 51K! Thanks for convincing me!
Thanks I downloaded the trial and did some tests but I want to do it again, it has great potential :), it must be studied how to insert it in the flow do it at the beginning is good, but you could insert it after having done the development in ACR O C1 :-)
Thanks Marco, good luck with the testing, Cheers, Duade
Thanks for this info and examples. I wish this could be used as a Lightroom plug in. For now I’m thinking I’ll stick with DeNoise for simplicity in the workflow. Again, thanks for the complete and thorough review.
Woody, yes that would be handy for sure. Cheers, Duade
11:24 you compared DxOPure Raw 32000 vs ISO 1600. I would love to see how PureRaw would have processed the 1600 raw file!
Thanks Marlo, probably pretty well, I tend not to apply NR to images that don't really need it or just to the background. Cheers, Duade
Hi dude. Just seen this and painterly look means softer.
Thanks James, yes, NR can often make the images look a touch softer but I find the overall quality looks better compared to the very noisy image. Comes down to personal preference I suppose. Cheers, Duade
Awesome video as usual ! Thank’s for sharing
Dominique, my pleasure, Cheers, Duade
Great comparison. I prefer the Dxo photo of the willie wagtail. It looks to have better detail and sharpness. I’m going to test out the trial version and will use your affiliate link to buy after testing. Thanks.
Thanks Mike, I appreciate it, good luck with the trial. Cheers, Duade
Great video. Exactly what i wanted to try too. 😂 Just curious, will there be even more improvement if you perform dxo pure raw follow by Topaz noise? Thank you.
Hi, I don't think so, might make it worse, but you could try yourself. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, great videos. It's now 2024, are you still recommending DXO vs. any other comparable software?
Hi Duade, great video, I would have helped you out but after the trial I purchased DXO last weekend sorry, I just was not happy with Lightroom the way it handles the R5 RAW files, DXO is definitely a work around. I did try Topaz but didn't like it, it gives photos that vinyl look, I think what you are calling painted :-)
Thanks Tony, I think I am a little late to the party but great to hear it's working well for you. Cheers, Duade 👍
Excellent video. Thanks for taking us through each stage of the process. It helps us to get familiar with a new software/interface. I will give PureRaw a try and see how it helps me! :)
Sagun, good luck with the software, Cheers, Duade
Great Videos! Thank you.
João, I am glad you have enjoyed them, Cheers, Duade
Hi, Trouble is where do you stop? I have Topaz DeNoise and as you say works well, I also have On1 photo RAW 2021 and although ON1 have launched there new noise app NoNoise it will be available in the upgrade to ON1 photo RAW 2022 so silly to buy the stand alone option, I tried DXO Pureraw trial and found it to over process the images (mentioned to Jan Wegener on his video and he said turn of the auto camera profile) as I stated at the start "Where do you stop" no doubt someone out there will come up with a better option for noise reduction in a few months. Russ.
Russ, yes, I hear where you are coming from. I actually hope that Adobe themselves come up with something as I use Lightroom and Photoshop already. Cheers, Duade
Very Informative... thank you.
As per usual, great information delivered so well. Question if I may? Can you bring the noise reduced file into lightroom and blend it with the original file so as to keep the subject untouched but utilize the noise reduced background, ie, having your cake and eat it?
G'day Peter, what you are describing can be done in photoshop using masks. This is what I do to apply NR to the background only. You can also do this with Topaz Denoise masks, you can mask out the subject which should then bring that file back to Lightroom. With DXO PureRAW you would have to use photoshop I think. Cheers, Duade
Very informative as usual and inspiring
Thanks, I am glad it was helpful, Cheers, Duade
unbelievable good and helpful video !👌
Im sooo glad that I've subscirbed to you. Your videos educate a lot !👍
That is great to hear, Cheers, Duade
You didn't mention how the processing changes the look of the photo, apart from being less noisy. They seem more contrasty afterward too.
Good video, I will try it with my Mac mini M1, thanks Duade
Thanks Luis, good luck with it on your Mac. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for this video. Let me try the 30 days trial too and then will buy. 👍
Is this licence is for lifetime? I checked the site but couldn’t find if it’s for lifetime or for a year!!! Any pointers would be great.
My understanding it is a lifetime licence for this version, I think what these companies are doing now is releasing new versions and then charging for those. Keep an eye on the sales as they often offer a discount. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade. Great video. Have tried out on1 no noise plug-in? It’s relatively new to the market.
no not yet, I will have to give it a go. Cheers, Duade
Duade this is truly impressive results! Got a question for you. Does putting your camera in crop mode increase AF accuracy or at least decrease rolling shutter. What differences have you noticed if any. Thanks.
Robert, I answered in the other comment, possibly AF improvement but not verified and it would not help with rolling shutter. Cheers, Duade
Really useful video Duade. Very impressed. Does it work with C-RAW files?
Alan, yes it should. It is well worth giving it a go. Cheers, Duade
Good day mate! Thanks for the wonderful video. Can I ask a quick question please? Why would you not reduce the notice on the bird? Thanks
G'day Ravi, it's a balancing act, I find noise reduction can reduce the feather details in the bird. If it is very high ISO and there is lots of noise in the bird then I would use DXO on the bird also. Cheers, Duade 👍
Incredible!!! Awesome!!!
Thanks Carlos, Cheers, Duade
It is great for sure only on my mac mini m1 i have big problems with processing i have to quit and start a lot of times before it finally works, it is terrible on Apple Silicon howevet DxO states it is compatible but it needs to have an * because it is not native it is working via Rosetta. On Intel macs it works great
Thanks for that, I was not aware of those issues. I have problems if Lightroom is open, it wont work, I have to close Lightroom before it will process the photo. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Hey thanks for this i will try this out, however i think i did not had Lightroom open but i will try it out maybe that is my problem too.
@@Duade itried without Lightroom open but still after two hours it did not processed 1 24mp shot
@@Duade It seemed to be an issue with Big Sur 11.5.1 on M1 macs, i just installed 11.5.2 from last week and all working fine!
EDIT: after one batch of 6 photo’s it just stopped working again 😭
There was another guy who sharpened prior to importing to Topaz. I think he used clarity first.
Thanks Donovan, there are a number of different methods one can use, Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I am a beginner in bird photography and using canon R7 with rf 100-500 lens. I use dxo pureraw4 for denoising. Here I face a problem, while editing in LRC, I send the file to dxo pureraw4 as plugin after just adjusting my white balance. But when the file is exported back to LRC , the basic panel slider names are changed. Why it's so? Is it a bug? Please advise. Thank you and hope you have recovered now and doing well
After using DXO PureRAW do you use Lightroom to make adjustments afterwards and also sharpen after DXO PureRAW ?
Hi Rodrigo, yes, I make adjustments in lightroom after and will often sharpen as well. Cheers, Duade
Do you think Pure Raw can compensate for the high noise levels (even at relatively low ISO) of the new Canon R7? or should I opt for a different camera?, Thanks
Thanks Terry, I think DXO should work very well once it works with R7 files. I am unsure exactly how long that will take. Cheers, Duade
Moore ... its a little bit moore details in DXO. I also use Topaz but very selldom
I use DXO for the entire image and usually use Topaz for the background only. Cheers, Duade
Kinda funny that I actually preferred the Jacky winter DXO file more than the ISO3200. The software is very impressive and from what I can tell, it seems better than topaz
Thanks Micki, it is pretty incredible really that they can even look similar. Cheers, Duade
Great software..used the trial version...but my only complaint is, it is slow to process and takes too much of processing time... If you wish to process 5 or 10 images then you will get bored
Santosh, yes, I probably should have mentioned that on some computers it does take some time. My R6 files take around 15 seconds and the R5 around 25 seconds on my PC. Cheers, Duade
What happened with the willy wag tail? only 1/500sec but ISO 25600! What was it, Midnight? haha! Thanks for the high ISO samples, its nice to know im not the only 1 battling noise on a latest camera. Ive taken some images at 6400 with clean image quality and some at the same ISO with terrible noise resulting in huge amounts of detail loss. This program looks like it cleans up the files nicely, good to see another option.
G'day Kurtis, I was shooting at high ISO on purpose to get some noisy images. Yes you would lower that SS to get a lower ISO in the field. Cheers, Duade 👍
@@Duade I know it was for test :) But I just was saying must have been really dark for the ISO to be that high and still under exposed.
Hi Duade! Good information-video, as always. I guess that jpg-photos won't be applicable in this software? (The name kinda implies it quite clearly.)
thanks, yes at this stage it is RAW only, Cheers, Duade
Great review!!! i think DXO looks a bit better then Topaz
Thanks Boris, yes it works very well, Cheers, Duade
If it's a little bit "smeary" after a process just pull back it to life with a little bit of noise in PS.
Magnus, I agree, always a matter of finding balance, Cheers, Duade
sadly, couldn't play with the data and test (wanted to see how Neat Image v8 compared) as I'm running very old versions of Photoshop (CS6) and lightroom (v5) and I suspect that the camera isn't supported in LR5, so can't do anything with RAW.
David, you can use DXO PureRAW as a standalone product so you can run your own RAW images through that first. Then import the exported DNG into photoshop or lightroom to process. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I got the trial and used it on a RAW image taken with the Canon R5 then tried to process it with DPP4 but DPP4 doesn't work with png files. Not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Sorry to hear that it does not work with DPP, I think that maybe a limitation of DPP. Most image editors such Lightroom will process the DNG files. A free option I believe is GIMP which could be worth a try. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, thanks for this info - I will check into Lightroom. In case others experience this with DPP4 - I did check with DXO PureRAW and there seems to be no work around.
DXO seems better, more contrast. Have Topaz so probably have to stay with it.
Ozi, yes, I tend to agree. Cheers, Duade
Great software and I love it. However, there is one small problem - I can't actually use it. You see it hard crashes my computer. I have a ticket out with the company support, but so far, no solutions. I spent the money for nothing...
Are you still using it as this point, or has Lightroom become better?
Good day! Does DXO have to be used with Lighroom, or can it export to a file?
Hi Roger, no it can be used as a standalone product where it exports a DNG file that can be opened by any editor. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade thanks again for a very informative video. I tried last year to download Topaz, sadly my ageing laptop wasn't up to it. Thankfully this software is compatible. Like you i experimented with the 3 options. Deep Prime was fantastic, however 1 image took 45 minutes :[ If i was able to Crop a RAW image and save as RAW this would be brilliant. Is this possible? My Photoshop 2020 doesn't come with this option. Any ideas? PS Keep up the good work :]
John, I don't think you are able to crop a RAW file, some cameras do offer a slightly lower quality Raw file, on Canon its CRAW, I think Sony also does a compressed RAW file. These may help. My R6 files take around 15 seconds and the R5 close to 30 seconds on my PC. Cheers, Duade
So can you bring it (Original photo) back to lightroom from dxo ?
Gday Johannes, there will be two versions in lightroom, the original RAW file and the DXOPureRaw DNG file. You can edit the DXO file as you would the original RAW file. Cheers, Duade
Your video quality is looking great, can I ask what format you record in?
Robert, I filmed it on my R6 in 4k with the RF35 1.8 lens. Cheers, Duade
Does it work with any editing software or only Lightroom?
G'day, it should work with any editing software, you can download the trial for free and try it if you like. Cheers, Duade 👍
As I understand, the software is generating Adobe raw files. Since I use DPP, the software is not for me.
That is a pity.
It creates DNG files which I don't think DPP can read unfortunately. Cheers, Duade
DXO requires Windows 10 "or above" but I can't find the system requirements for Denoise......does anybody have them?
Philip, I am not sure, email their support team, they are very quick to respond. Cheers, Duade help@topazlabs.com
Dxo pureraw work with jpeg as well ?
G'day Ryan, unfortunately not, only RAW files at this stage. Cheers, Duade 👍
will dxo work with j pig only
G'day David, it only works with RAW files unfortunately. Cheers, Duade 👍
Does this work with all kind of images?
G'day, works with RAW files only as far as I am aware. Cheers, Duade 👍
@@Duade thanks
I am using dxo pure raw and its epic!!!!
But my pc broke😭
Thanks Altima, Cheers, Duade 👍
I tried DxO Pureraw and for me the images looks too artificial especially in the fury/feathery parts. Topaz is worst, EXCEPT the RAW method which do an amazing job when you use it in the standalone program, the other methods like Standard, Clean, Severe Noise are too artificial to my taste. The bad sides of Topaz is the horrible workflow and it alter the colors and exposure of the original, but it can be easily fixed. HOWEVER, all things considered, my findings were mostly done on photos around ISO 6400 crop sensors. I am not sure how it would perform with higher ISO.
Thanks, it does seem variable with each photo. I tend to use DXO on very high ISO over the entire image. Otherwise I will often use a mask and just use Topaz on the background. They are much better than they used to be and can be game changing for very high ISO. Cheers, Duade
Thanks for the recommendation. I bought this. While my photography skills are not up to par to push this to the limit, I did try them on Matt Granger's NEF files from his D850/810/500 comparison: ruclips.net/video/y_kk7QhS-MU/видео.html. The results are nothing less then impressive. It's shame that it doesn't recognise RAW files from my Samsung Note 9 or Google Pixel 6 Pro.
It is my pleasure, happy to hear it is working well for you, Cheers, Duade