Drum Teacher Reaction: BILL WARD | Black Sabbath - 'Children Of The Grave' | Master Of Reality
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yeah, this recording seems bad to me, sounds like the levels are off from the version i know and love.
Congratulations on discovering the greatest band of all time. The first six albums are flawless.
Flawless is a great description but to me doesn't have the magnitude to do those albums justice.
SABBATH!!!
🤟🏻🤟🏻
Have you completed all the Sabbath reactions you plan to do?
Watching this guy kick himself every time for never listening to black sabbath when he was younger is so satisfying because he know understand no body’s better than black sabbath… Earned a sub 🤘🏼
Yo thanks!!
Lovin' the SABBATHHHHHHH!
The rototoms are a tape loop.
The voice at the end is Ozzy.
Admittedly, the version you listened to has the gain pushed up far higher than the original LP release. It shouldn’t be hard clipping that much
yup, that was hurtin' the old ears!
Rototoms, yes. I was trying to think of the specific term. For me, they bring the song to a new level. Great stuff.
Ah, so they’re rototoms…I’ve always wondered how those rattling drums fit in with the track.
Bill Ward has mentioned in interviews that there timpani drums.
@@21Piloteer Oh I thought they were timbales lol
One of Sabbath's best songs. Ward is so inventive, so interesting, I can not imagine another drummer with Sabbath. A bit of music magic, really.
To me this song is a massive influence on metal - the gallop! Iron Maiden's entire career is based on the gallop, and I don't think we would have thrash (Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, etc) without this song. Proto-thrash in 1971. This is why they're my favourite band.
Symptom Of The Universe even more an influence on thrash.
Bonham had Andy Johns working miracles. It makes a big difference.
Tony Iomi is the greatest guitar player on the planet considering his riffs and the fact he turned getting two finger tips being cut off into and advantage instead of a career ending accident. In my opinion.
He's gotta be right up there!
Ahh then I heard Ritchie Blackmores acoustic solo on you tube and he has to be the best guitar player around at this point in history. I wouldn't want to live off the difference.
How many guitar players create an entire genre of music??? Tony Iommi created Heavy Metal today. Only the Beatles were responsible for for modern rock music today. But heavy metal was all Black Sabbath with Tony Iommi. 🎸
I’m assuming you mean for rock/metal music.If so I agree, he’s just so creative and soulful with a great musical vocabulary from blues to jazz.I got blown away listening to black sabbath as a kid and had to play the guitar.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums He's the best soloist, very competent jazz player, along with the creative riffs, also a very fast guitarist like Alvin Lee when he chooses to be..
Loved watching your reaction on your first listen to Sabbath, amazing band, I grew up with them, a big fav of mine and re-living the enjoyment of listening to Bill, Geezer, Toni & Ozzy now at 67. Thoroughly enjoyed watching and listening to your comments on all their songs
I have to confess that I've been listening to hard rock for many years and even listened to Sabbath back in the day, but it's only been in the last five to ten years that I've truly appreciated the whole package. I grew up a massive Zep fan and didn't really have much time for other bands, but thanks to RUclips my eyes have been opened to the genius that is Sabbath. You can literally not find a bad song put out by Sabbath during the Ozzy years. And as for great drummers, well, we all know about Bonzo, but Bill Ward was truly a percussion maniac, and let's not forget Tony, the riff meister, Geezer (bass and lyrics), and Ozzy. Truly one of the great foundational powerhouses of rock.
Yea we had that problem I'm exactly the opposite, Zep was good and had some great songs but I stared on Black Sabbath bought my first stero because I heard Black Sabbath at my friends house. My first album was Paranoid, my 2nd was Master of Reality that came out a month later when I could afford to buy another album.
On the same journey, so much more Sabbath to discover, it's just the groove...
It's exactly the same for me, going back to about 1971. Massive Zep fan, didn't have that many Sabbath albums or listen to them extensively. I made the same mistake with Rush. But I'll make up for it now, I just bought 3 Sabbath albums.
I grew up around hippies that felt much of Zep's talents and reputation were overexaggerated, in spite of a fair number of hits. Some of Plant's high pitch nasal singing, 'oow-oww, ya-eh-yaaa'...especially live, was too much of a put off for many. And the 'everything turns to brown' stuff - ugh. They couldn't decide if they were a rock band, folk, blues or whatever, and they faded pretty fast from the mediocre Physical Graffiti material on
Yes they were that good.they were 4 working class lads from a hard place to live,and it comes out in the music.wait till you get to sabbath bloody sabbath
Bill Ward is an absolute genius in this song
It's triplet time. I hope you do all three parts (Orchid/Children/Haunting).
In five minutes Bill changes rock music forever.
Master of Reality was the first album I bought in '71, when I was 13. Sabbath was the root of metal and Tony was the riff king.
I bought it when it came out at ten years old. It rotted my brains, in a good way! hah hah hah!
I was 16 and my mate brought their brand new first album to school..can you imagine? I then played drums for thirty odd years..it was literally life changing for me
My favorite track from my favorite Black Sabbath album. This really rocked me back in 1971 when I was in Junior High. The galloping drums and Tony and Geezer's very heavy riffs really got my heart (and fists) pumping.
Respect OG
A little bit of history for you Andrew, before Balck Sabbath the band were called Earth. Earth played blues music which explains why they sound the way they did.
Before Earth, they were the Polka Tulk Blues Band.
@@jdbelloni And that was with Iommi and Ward, I believe, with plenty of jazz (trumpets and sax too) with blues numbers.
Bill Ward loved experimenting with overdubbed drums and percussion items. On his solo song STRAWS he actually has another drummer playing along side him.
Yes, BLACK SABBATH were an electric blues band, as were all the other bands creating hard rock at the time. I still don’t understand how a professional drummer lived this long without listening to BLACK SABBATH.
Little fishy
@Greg-om2hb Head in the sand. Uninformed of the quality of some hard rock? Maybe even a bit prejudiced. The name scared most music listeners and players away, even back then. Yet they have the most sequence and time changes in an astonishing amount of melodic songs, except perhaps for Jethro Tull. Rooney does state somewhere that there are Hendrix touches to some of Iommi's material, I think it was on 'Killing Yourself To Live'. A very insightful expression from a man who picks up on things fast though. And what is more impressive, unlike Randy California or Stevie Ray Vaughan ad infinitum, he was never attempting anything of the kind.
Ward and Bonham were friends before zeppelin/sabbath. Crazy how many great drummers came from the same place (Birmingham I believe). Great vid!!
They became friends in their teens. Tony Iommi and Bonham were very close friends as well, so much so that Bonham was the best man at Tony's wedding to his first wife. I've included links to two different RUclips clips of Bill Ward talking about Bonham below as well as a link to an interview in which Tony talks about his stag night with Bonham the night before Tony's wedding. The wedding photo in the Lava Lamps & 8-Track Theater clip is from Tony's wedding. Bonham is partially cut off on the far right and Bill Ward is on the far left.
Lava Lamps & 8-Track Theater: ruclips.net/video/L9JMGuM9BBg/видео.html
Bonzo Bash NAMM Jamm: ruclips.net/video/kKXJPUoyn_g/видео.html
Tony Iommi Planet Rock interview: planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/tony-iommi-john-bonham/
Don't stop with the Black Sabbath!
hell no...
I am getting old when a drummer of note is hearing Children Of The Grave for the first time...
You're not alone, I was 10 when I bought my first metal vinyl, master of reality.
@@rb343 the most amazing part of Rooney's tour thru the Sabbath catalog is he is given me a new appreciation of how amazing and revolutionary their sound was back in the day... and also I do enjoy learning about the influence jazz had in that sound.
@@rb343 the most amazing part of Rooney's tour thru the Sabbath catalog is he has given me a new appreciation of how amazing and revolutionary their sound was back in the day... and also I do enjoy learning about the influence jazz had in that sound.
52 years ago Sabbath laid the groundwork for all of Metal. 52 years later, few equal them, none are better. I cannot wait for you to react to Into the Void or A National Acrobat.
Already done Into the Void a couple of weeks ago, you'll enjoy Andrew's reaction 😄
Second that A National Acrobat or Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
A National Acrobat is my personal favorite Sabbath song all-time. That whole album is just a dream though.
In my opinion Sabbath in the 70s were even more than just proto metal, they were fearless artists with many directions outside the metal realm. I feel they are often reduced to this fathers of metal thing.
Great as always, Andrew! Loved it! One of the many many innovations Iommi started was his idea of two separate solos that were laid on top of each other as you hear here, which was one of his many innovative trademarks. The voice at the end is Ozzy speaking. And of course even the lyrics are heavy in a way which was not done at the time either ("Show the world that love is still alive you must be brave. Or you children of today are children of the grave.").
The live clip of this song from 1974's California Jam is a killer verdion of this song that I highly suggest people see!
Yup, would've loved to see the reaction to the live video....I ALWAYS got chills watching Bill Ward literally beat the living piss out of his set on this one especially...
@@joea7876 Yes indeed the camera scenes that are shot from behind Ward's kit are amazing! The part where Ozzy gets the entire crowd to flash the peace sign over and over during the songs middle breakdown gives me goosebumps every time I see that footage.
That show was just plumb great, start to finish...
I have listened to Black Sabbath & Hendrix since the early 70's, & I have never heard the comparison between them! But I think your onto something!!! Bill Ward is great watching him live! I saw them in 1977, Memphis,TN!!!
Tanks for rhe tribute to grandmaster Bill
Have you seen my playlist!?
I have a Bill Ward/Sabbath playlist. Growing all the time
The embryo is the intro to the song, I mean the drums here hitting you 360 , I mean we talking essence, dramatic breaks, skull blowing grooves
'Embryo' was the name.
Every Week is Black Sabbath Week :)
Whats so cool to me about this song is most of the time it's the guitar or the singer doing overdubs, harmony parts, things like that... this is one of the few instances where the DRUMMER has decided to add what is essentially a lead over his main rhythm track. And it's not just a moment, it's the backbone of the song, especially during the instrumental chorus (note that the chorus and bridge in this song are both instrumental). That is way out of the box, especially in 1971, and it just goes to show how open the band was to letting everyone shine in service of the song. There could have been lyrics over the bridge, but Tony got to take the lead (note that the overdubbed drum stops during that segment). Bill gets to take the lead over the chorus. Everyone is contributing and are absolutely on fire. This album was recorded just a few months after Sabbath brought the house down in the infamous Paris 1970 video, they were so clearly riding a wave of massive technical development and interpersonal chemistry that makes this album their most firey.
Another great reaction to Sabbath. Sabbath was raw and dirty, and they needed to be that way. I don't really trust anyone who doesn't or hasn't owned the first 5 Sabbath albums.
HAHA!
That's a tough yardstick. But I like it
All 6 albums. Sabotage is also incredible.
Don't forget sabatoge
Raw, heavy edged and loud. The 'dirty' moniker must be some New Zealander slang. That's insulting where I am from.
I'm really enjoying these Black Sabbath reactions; I jam along on bass, learning Geezer's parts. 😉
Just bought their first album on vinyl. Can’t believe I’m just owning that album on vinyl. Been a fan since I can remember music. Literally, 3 or 4 yrs old. What an amazing drummer Bill Ward all the way!!!
100%
And vinyl rules, still.
Haven't heard that song in a long time but what a song!!! Took me way back 🔙 Thanks Andrew 🥁🥁🔥🥁
I Listen to the LP when I was q4 years old. My friend and I played the songs in our cellar, with accustic guitsr and my simple drumset. A great time and long ago. 😊
Thanks for sharing!
The really interesting part is the bass he filled it like no one could. And did you notice that Tony is not a shredder? Every note meant something
💯agree!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums and that's with two missing fingertips! Tony's pure Magic
The tips of Tony Iommi s finger tips were cut off in an accident,I think he was able to do more with his playing because of that.Either way he's one of the best and underrated guitarists ever
Definitely underrated James
How is Iommi underrated? He is one of the most revered guitar dude ever.
Can't wait to see your drumcover Andrew. Yes thanks to you i got more appreciation for Black Sabbath, never really listen much of their songs but they are briljant.
I LOVE that overlaying tom part. I was always confused how he played it, but it being an overlay makes so much more sense
It's so fun falling down the rabbit hole of your videos of you falling down the rabbit hole of Black Sabbath.
I've enjoyed their music for
50.
FREAKIN'.
YEARS.
When I saw you had done Children of the Grave, I was really curious if you would pick up on those extra toms. I've always thought they were overdubbed, but was never quite sure.
Hey man, just came from a zep video. Did you know Bill Ward grew up with John Bonham? They grew up playing together and I think they're the 2 most unique drummers of their generation.
One of the best Black Sabbath songs
thx
My favorite Sabbath song.
You had me at "imperfection make music great". Now following!
🙌
11:54 That was the genius of Jimmy Page -- his studio musician experience gave him a huge advantage when it came to mixing and producing the Zeppelin albums
And MONEY
Master of Reality is still one of the heaviest albums to date.
Hi Andrew! Great review and commentary on a classic Sabbath song. Well, really, they're all classics to me. I'm so pleased you've discovered the mystic beauty of my favorite band of all time. And yes, it's loaded with overdub. When you listen to an album like Master Of Reality it helps to commit and listen to the entire album top to bottom. It really does put you in a dream state. 😎
I hear ya!
Great song! It blew us away when we were in high school. Everything Black Sabbath did blew us all away!👍
Sabbath!!
Try "symptom of the universe" I want whatever bill ward was on when he did that.
Yes I've done a few on that one
Never too late to discover great music. I also vividly remember when I discovered them, thanks to my dad who brought home a Black Sabbath greatest hits double cd, it immediately blew my mind
Sabbath are the masters of metal
GEM OF A CENTURY !!!
I think there is lot of buzzing/distortion on this that's not on the record. It's very "fuzzy". It SHOULD sound exactly the same quality as Into the Void.
It sounds like somebody cranked up the gain without listening back, and the whole thing is clipping.
I can’t wait for you to hear the opening track of VOL.4 let alone all of the album. The progression of this band through their first 6 albums is jaw dropping.
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One of THE greatest metal tracks of all time and yep sounds like timbales to me!
Thanks for checking out this song. Oh, the memories.
Great track. So much energy...
Both Jimi Hendrix and Tony Iommi had accidents that shaped their musical styles and led to heavy metal. Hendrix broke his leg after joining the army, or paratroopers? He parachuted and broke his leg. He recuperated on his dad's porch, playing a right handed acoustic guitar with the strings turned upside down. Then he went to London in the swinging sixties.
Iommi, had a job lined up on a cruise liner, playing guitar in a show band. On his last day at the sheet metal work factory, he cut the fingers off of his right hand and thought he would never play again. But he melted a fairy liquid bottle and made supports for his fingers, with leather from an old jacket.
Both were left handed. Both had accidents that transformed both themselves and heavy music.
Perhaps there is a third person who had an accident? I don't know? But good things tend to come in 3's.
Black Sabbath the king of Heavy Metal🤘❤️😎
The two GREATEST Rock bands of all time, Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. They have to share the mountain top. I do understand how both have their followers proclaiming one greater than the other.
Yeah I say Bill Ward was a more powerful drummer than Bonham. But they just didn't get the recognition because of a myriad of reasons including the coke and the dark content.
2nd song on this album is my favorite all time Sabbath song. After Forever. ....
It's magical.
The lead up guitar piece is called Embryo.
I bought this 8-track in 1979 or 1980 , because I loved the Paranoid album ! Back when I was 9 or 10 years old ! They was great before they broke up , then they was just good !
Even later Bill Ward keeps to his Jazz roots. Try "A National Acrobat" from the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album.
So happy you played Embryo and the spooky ending this song is an absolute banger.
Another great reaction Andrew. You keep it real just like Sabbath.
@3:31 "four human beans, in a room, makin' music"
That's what creates the magic
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Truer words have never bean spoken. Praise the bean!
The odd instrumental intro is a separate song called "Embryo", by the way. On some CDs (especially those from Early 'Castle Communications' releases) "Embryo" got mistakingly added to "Children" and the outtro of "Children" got wronfully entered as a separate short. 'Castle' were a messy bunch in the early to mid-nineties, judging by the things I saw for their Black Sabbath and Uriah Heep releases.
I would really like to know what you are thinking about Ozzys new album 🤩
The album sounds so good to me, I'm completely speechless!!! It's just a huge gift!
I'm not a metalhead, I like good sound, good lyrics and melodies. I don't think in boxes and have been a die-hard Ozzy Osbourne fan since I was 15 (I'm 30). I actually think this is his best album so far!!🔥🎶❤️! I can't choose which song is my favorite one on the album but "Mr. Darkness" hits me very personal and "Dead And Gone" is such a banger with good lyrics which is very overlooked. But every song on it is such an earworm 😬
This song "Mr. Darkness" touches me very personally... 😢 Never let go of my first great love and he never showed himself again, I haven't found him again for years and suffered from the breakup for a very long time. He is my "Mr Darkness" .
Ozzy's music got me through depression, lovesickness, worldache and self-doubt and helped me a lot to reflect :) And when I can't find the right words he's like a speaker for me
Are most Black Sabbath songs written in sonata form? As was Deep purple's "The Mule".
Exposition, development and recapitulation, with a first and second subject.
When I was young, during the 80.s/90's I though this was weak and old sounding crap, now I absolutely love the drive, the grime and heaviness of bands like Sabbath
Bill Ward, on the Master of Reality album (and this song): "This is the most enduring Black Sabbath album for me. The production is extremely good: Tony was trying a lot of new things, and I’m very pleased with the drumming. I was pulling off a lot of new things that I’d been trying to do for three years, such as my double bass work in Children Of The Grave. There’s a lot of different bass drum movement, and I play the timbale with my left hand on that song too.”
Andrew have you heard the tripping snare in Fairies wear boots? There is also the soup pot brush effect in the middle of the cacophony of drums in Snowblind. Love those Drummers back then, check the short Ian Paice with Chad Smith clip on YT.
1 of the best. Like all the other Black Sabbath hits😊
Too bad about the clipping on this one.
I've been loving you're Black Sabbath discovering journey, It seems like you experience the same pure joy that I did (and still do).
This is one of those bands that just never left me, I always return, I may have some Sabbath free years now and then, but I still feel the same joy when I hear them again.
haha... I grew up with Black Sabbath, Great vid!
Heavy Heavy track.. Never saw sabbath play this but saw plenty of bands cover it { west Auckland NZ } in the 80's . Might not of been at this quality but hella totally enjoyable . It's so brutal.
Yo I’m a westy too! 🤘
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Nice one Andrew. Westy proud. 👍
A must listen with head phones. Bill Ward at his best.🤘
I lived 11 years until I got Master of reality in 71. My life began on that glorious day. Got Black Sabbath and Paranoid shortly after from pocket money 💸. I also got Zeppelin 1 and 2. They never threatened my absolute undying for Sabbath.
I also got Deep Purple . They I thought were better than Zep.
Still no threat to Sabbath.
Don't call my closed minded. When I went to work in 76. I went on an unremitting album buying spree that lasted for years . I had at one point over 4,000 albums. Every conceivable rock type.
Nothing repeat, nothing comes close to Sabbath in all their various forms.
Ozzy, Dio, Gillan, Martin.
Nothing.
I have never missed a beat with
Tonys leads make me feel like there’s a thousand angry bees shouting in my ears and I can’t get enough
One of my favs.
Hey man. Check out Circle Jerks song "Red Tape". I think you'll dig the drums. Its a punk band with a jazz drummer.
Thanks for the tip!!
THe opening guitar run is like a medieval, gothic, Teutonic mad spell.
Yeah that bit was glorious
The opening guitar run is a different track (Embryo) it's like an intro to COTG. PS. the audio quality of this pretty awful, it should (& does) sound better than this elsewhere.
Never realised till now about the overlay drum part, have never played drums , just air drum!!Checkout children of the grave California Jam
I'm pretty sure this is the 1st time they got to record on a 16 track. Lol. Funny to say today. So, ward put up a WALL OF SOUND!!!!
A couple of other old-school metal drummers/tracks to check potentially check out: Iron Maiden, Where Eagles Dare - Nicko McBrain might be the only single bass drummer left in the metal world? ... and Judas Priest, Painkiller - Scott Travis... the drum intro from hell...
Maiden isn't metal.though
Hello Ludwig Rooney. ;) Now when you have started this sabbath thing on this fabulous channel I'l just want to remind you of the tony martin era. It is not 70ies sabbath but stil quite good.
If they had better production on some of these albums Ward would be as well-known as Bonham among the casual fans.
Totally agree Kent!
Slight shame. But doesn't detract from the awesomeness
Bill did some of the 'overdubs' live in the studio with his left hand, the rest are actual dubs
Recorded on an 8 track. I believe this one was upgraded to a better systen but still very old technology.
My favourite Sabbath song. The rythm has a triplet feel or maybe it is a 6/8 . It is like the traditional greek rythm zonaradikos ( ζωναράδικος) from the Thrace area, listen to the song lianochortaroudia ( λιανοχωρταρουδια ) for example, the phrases on the percussion in that song and the rototoms in the Sabbath song are a perfect match
I always thought the drums were double tracked like Bob Seger's Hollywood Nights.
I auditioned for vocals with a band but they went with a screamo type singer instead. Several good covers of this song.
Timpani (kettle) drums.
The Ozzy live version from the Tribute album is so amazing.
Awesome video! I'm a guitarist not a drummer so excuse my lack of proper drum terms. I love this song! This is obviously a studio recording. The drums are unbelievable. It sounds like there is a 2nd drummer or drum track playing over top of the triplets? Was this drummer really that damn good? Your thoughts?
Couldn't agree more about the imperfections. Not only is it so much more authentic but the message/emotion is still conveyed perfectly, if not more so (as this genre is very human and as humans we are imperfect), which makes the music all the more moving. Metallica's 'The Call of Ktulu' for example just wouldn't be the same without the non-intonated guitars going slightly sharp when James plays the clean intro higher up the fretboard.
If you have not checked it out try the drum sols on Black Sabbath Live Evil.