Drum Teacher Reaction: BILL WARD | Black Sabbath - 'Lord Of This World' (FIRST TIME LISTEN)
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Master of Reality is a 10/10 album.
All first six Sabbath records are 10/10. Technical Ecstasy is an 8.5/10 and Never Say Die 5.5/10.
It really is 10/10...
For sure, Master of Reality and SBS are my 2 favourites.
All the other albums have weak tracks: Evil Woman, Electric Funeral (bit dated), Laguna Sunrise (🤢), Who are you? (Dated, great Ozzy vocal though), half of Sabotage, but I'm fond of all the tracks on Master.
Yeah. Their 70s catalog is classic, but Master of Reality is 100% perfect.
I knew you could not resist Sabbath's "grooviest' album
Bill Ward is a legend! Without him the band isn't Black Sabbath. It takes all 4 of them together to be Black Sabbath! Nothing but love from me!
I totally agree. Bills flavor is essential in the BS recipe
Much of Ward's drumming on this album make me think of a colossus leisurely striding across the world.
Ha ha, great description. I love when they were working on Iron Man, Ozzy said it sounded like an ‘Iron bloke’ stumbling around.
I have to say. I just love the Bass in this song.
Master Of Reality is Sabbath's 3rd flawless album in a row. Eventually, you should cover every song on it, like you did for the debut album (almost), but after doing the Paranoid album, of course.
Andrew than you for covering more Black Sabbath with Bill Ward's drumming. I always enjoy hearing your perspective.
Thanks Rick!
A lot of people have said Black Sabbath are a jazz band in how they play. It is just hidden under the heaviness of the music. Even Bill Ward has said they took the approach without intentionally doing it. He said the song that made him want to play drums was in the mood by Glenn Miller.
Oh wow! HAHA
Under the sun is a banger. The opening riff is almost death metal.
If you threw John Tardy Voice its not that different .
Vol 4 , despite the mix vs the alternate take , its a great oriented drum album.
Its where Bill was begining to really expand like octopus.
With more dramatics, still Jazz but also very symphonic as Tony said
By this time, even the following records through the end of the decade in his book , to bill " he tried to play like he had 8 arms , but bill , you have only 2 hands "..
I think as they were listening thoses musics , as Purple, and led zeppelin , budgie and stuff , the whole Mahavishnu orchestra Cobham Mouzon stuff influenced that expanding ..
To me at least i can hear that expanding within the old influences they had in Sabotage , technical ecstasy , Never Say Die...
Bill ward is unbelievable in thoses records
In Wicked World on the Live at Last album, there's a jazz blues bit in the guitar solo.
Bill and Geezer do a lot of jazz as a rhythm section. They are fantastic!
As a 40+ year fan and a songwriter and guitar/bass player, what really blows me away is how the parts are always complimentary. Black Sabbath was so unique and cool. I’m very happy to be learning Geezers lines, although I’ll never get them exactly right.
Andrew, love the sabbath videos! You should contact Bill Ward and get a zoom interview for your channel. That would be so cool! And get his take on the tracks and his inspirations for these great tracks. Bill is the reason that I play drums. "Dirty shuffle" is the best.
That whole album will melt your face off!
The first album they tuned the guitars down for.
Amazing album!
It has been over 40 years since I first heard this song. What joy it is for me to see someone's reaction so knowledgeable about music, listening to it for the first time. I learned something today! I like jazz... who knew!
My favourite Sabbath Album .
Into the void is my favourite Sabbath Song .
Peace and love brother ✌ 💚
Can't wait to hear that one Springy
Geezer puttin that stank all over the place! Nothing better than Butler and Ward as a team.
Geezer and Bill would have been an amazing jazz rythmic section. I hear jazz in everything they play.
100%
When they were Earth and further back, about everything they played was jazz and blues.
Hi Andrew, I was 14 when I got this album for Christmas. It came with a blacklight poster, blacklight and some incense. There was an aura about them. It was special then but now Master of Reality is even more special after becoming a decent musician and knowing what I am hearing. Thank you,Tucson,AZ.
Finally Master of Reality No band sounded heavier than Sabbath. I've mentioned before Jazz and electricity dark lyrics Metal was truly born Children of the Grave must play this Bill Ward (percussionality) Great choice
Man... I've LOVED Sabbath for years and years and listened to all aspects intently, but you really made me appreciate Ward even more. Thanks for your insight🤟
all three members of this band had a lot of jazz experience growing up, especially bill ward.
I'm assuming you mean the three who played instruments, in which case, I agree, yep. For proof, check out Air Dance.
this song is scary-beautiful
I know Black Sabbath tunes back to front, but I know very little technically about drumming. I know Bill Ward does not just keep time. I can hear all his random fills and his personal effect on Sabbath as a band. Nice to have it explained Andrew!
Thanks for watching!!
I can never get tired of listening to Bill and Geezer working together and off each other!
In a lot of ways, I would say that these two are the glue between Tony and Ozzy.
If either one had not worked so well with the other, the sound just would not have come out right and we might not have metal as we know it today.
It's a special rhythm section
Bill Ward makes this heavy, doomy, slow, groovy grind verse fucking swing. no one else could do it. no one. and he's not choking the crashes, he's hitting them on the hats
My Fave Sabbath Album Nice Work
When you can close your eyes and imagine the bass line played on a upright bass... Yup.
yup yup
I don't always listen to 'Sabbath, but when I do, so do the neighbours. Hahahah, absolutely brilliant! 🤣
Bill Ward is one of the greatest of all TIME! Gets no recognition
Very underrated IMO
not true unless ya lived under a rock all your life..well regarded drummer in the industry.
FINALLY a reaction to Lord Of This World … a couple have done their other best non-hit track, Hand Of Doom, but I cant think of anyone else who has reacted to Lord Of This World. One of their best tracks, easily top 10.
You're a man of taste, Erik!
@@mikeg.4211 great music is great music :)
Andrew, I know we are listening to Bill, but Geezer is killing it in the background.
Tony and Bill grew up with Jazz influences.
Well, you have to do Into the Void after this one.
I'll get there Alan!!
The 1st TRUE, all Metal album.
What a great analysis of Bill Ward’s work!👍
Thank you kindly!
When Candlemass came out all the magazines were like, "The next Black Sabbath!" But I was like, uh, no, they sound like a metal band. The next Black Sabbath will sound like nothing we've heard before.
14:33 The first track from the Master of Reality album Sweet Leaf is awesome -- it has a sort of "freak out" part in the middle of it that will blow your mind
I'll get to it!
Can i just say, we discuss the musical brilliance of the band, which is spot on, but where would they have been without Geezers brilliant lyric writing. The man was a master wordsmith.
The pace that they were releasing material is even more intense than you think. Their debut was released in the UK in Feb 1970, with Paranoid (featuring War Pigs & Iron Man) following in September. Then they kept an album per year pace through their FIFTH record.
Black Sabbath (1970)
Paranoid (1970, again)
Master of Reality (1971)
Vol. 4 (1972)
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (1973)
Then they took a little break... before releasing three more albums in 1975, 76, and 78.
That's when Ozzy left the band in 1979.
... and then with a revolving cast of bandmates, Tony Iommi continued to crank out Sabbath records every year or two until 1995 (18 albums in total), before the original lineup reunited and they became a touring act (one last album coming with the original lineup minus Bill Ward in 2013).
So, yes, they were productive.
Ozzy got kicked out due to his massive drug and alcohol addiction, he did not simply leave. Geezer gave up drugs in 76, but Bill, Ozzy and Tony kept on. By the time they went to record Never Say Die! In 78 after the flop of Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy was MIA for six entire weeks.
For sure. Those just weren't details I was including. I mean, he did leave....
But yes, thank you for the additional context.
That kind of creativity and work load is very destructive.
Must've been a hell of a time
Its great to see Bill getting the credit he deserves.
Thank you Andrew, for your reaction, but also for putting it bluntly: This is Jazz! It may be (called) many other things, too - but the fact remains, early Sabbath swings hard!
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I watch every Black Sabbath review I can find and youres are my favorite .
I played drums when I was young... high schoolish timeframe (mid 70's). My drum teacher was a jazz and orchestral drummer. I'd already been into Sabbath for a long time before that, but I never put it together at the time what type of drummer Bill was at first. Then I read something a few years later about his drumming that stated that, at his roots, he is a jazz drummer. A lightbulb went off. Of course he is! Just add doom and metal riffs and it's hiding in there.
I've thought for decades that Master of Reality was the perfection of heavy metal.
Remember: the first few albums Ward was playing on "my first drum kit", very few pieces of kit. He did so much with so little on those first few albums.
Every single Doom and Stoner Rock band owes Black Sabbath a massive debt for the groundwork they laid.
It is the creativity and not following the norm that is so dang inspiring
my favorite guitar-drumm-bass jamming of all time this outro is insanely satisfying they were too good for their time
After Forever from same record!
Sabbath Rules!
I'll get to it!
Oh you are going to love Children of the grave... and pretty much all of the album, Master of Reality is a true master piece.
This was SOOO good. Can't wait to hear the rest
Children of the grave is a MONSTER!
Mind-blowing
Yes Rob!
Black Sabbath was a blues band when they first started called earth. Bill Ward was drinking buddies with John Bonham before he died, that might explain the similarities.
What similarities? Bonham was a very average drummer in the most overrated band ever.
From what I understand Andrew, when the guys jammed they totally went for it. In those days, without digital cutting and pasting, they did it the old (physical way). I'm probably wrong, but I can hear through the finished work, there must have been the early jam stages where they locked in the ideas they wanted to keep and work up. Iommi has been cagey about this and we never really know their process. I also heard somewhere Iommi was also into the drums and would spend time with Bill to work out the changes and nuances of what he heard in his head. Thanks for posting. As a youngster I really enjoyed the variation Black Sabbath offered, and dined on it big. Great posts man.
Thank you John!
Yes different era of making and recording music. Wonderful
Yes, Iommi originally wanted to be a drummer, in fact, but couldn't afford them, luckily for the world.
@@mikeg.4211 Yes indeed Mike.
This is so cool, I have to go lie down for awhile now.
Me too.
Thank you Michael
@@AndrewRooneyDrums , the “too cool” reference was also intended to include your expert and tasteful reaction! 😎👍
I know I've said something three times in the same night. But he's absolutely right this is beautiful Jazz metal
What majestic power chords to introduce this song!
Favorite sabbath album. I tuned my guitar to C standard because of this record. Real powerful grooves, and secret funk breaks. After forever is a good one as well.
C# for Into The Void, though
Another full album review incoming haha (I hope)
Love "Master of Reality". The whole album rocks.
Andrew, being a beginner drummer, I found it incredibly awesome for you to be stepping through the notation like you did in this video. Please do more reviews with the notation!
When you say Sabbath, I say "nothing else."
Master of Reality is a masterpiece. And yeah, I'm sure all the guys in Soundgarden would agree that Sabbath was a huge influence...HUGE.
Geezer’s bass playing is epic on this track!
Yessssss
More Black Sabbath !
YUP YUP
around @9:00 - explaining section break, then Bill Ward intro “this is a jazz set up, setting a new tempo, with a 16th note partial fill.... ” ‘this is jazz, guys... I don’t know how to break it to you, but...”
The explanation at @10:53 - “Absolutely Textbook Bill Ward”
“in between [the main beat] are all these * Set Up fills - and they are different every time”
"This is what Bill Ward does.” It’s his amount of vocab, and - straight up - amount of chops, ... call & response”
The point around @15:30 where the production may have held back (converting the band into recording] (thus Bill Ward may not have had the kudos...) Have never heard it expressed & articulated this clearly, and even better pointing to a specific spot in the recording. Agree 1000%
Thank you so much for the comments and support! 💯🙏
To answer your volume question, Tony Iommi famously played and still plays on an absurdly loud Laney amplifier, so yes..... they were recording loud as hell, but that also adds to that vintage heavy metal fuzz. Their stuff isn't perfect, but that just adds to it
Early rock bands had to have their inspirations too. Apparently Sabbath loves jazz and Zeppelin loves the blues. Rock n Roll has always been a fusion of earlier music mixed with loud guitars and drums, distortion and naughty lyrics. That's why I love it. 🤘🏻SABBAAAAATH!!!!!🤘🏻
So glad your gave into you’re preconceived notions and decided to listen to Sabbath
“Dirty Women”
It's the supporters of my channel I have to thank for exposing me to Black Sabbath!
Hi Andrew. I must agree with your critique about the sound engineering. I'll bet it caused some conflict in the studio. That being said, Black Sabbath changed my life, set me on a path of music and discovery from a very young age. No regrets. 🎼🎵🎸🎹🥁🎤🔈🔉🔊
I´ve always loved Bills style to play. As i was teenage, i listened alot of BS (that time all the records came out as remastered CDs). Best of Black Sabbath were actualy second LP that i ever bought (AC/DCs Blow up your video were the first). It was impossible to play air drums and keep up with the stuff Bill was playing if you didn´t had heard the song enough to memorize what kind of fills he would play in the songs.
I don´t play drums at myself (i used to play guitar), but Bill were always one of my favourite drummers. So i got to say good choise to listen out more of BS. I hope you make few videos when you reach to fifth album Sabotage. At that album Symptom of the universe is a killer track with drums. No wonder that Sepultura ended up to make cover from that track. The drummer of Sepultura (Igor Cavalera) is amazing.
Master of Reality and Volume 4. are hands down my favorite Sabbath albums! Hope you get to all of them someday, songs like Supernaut and Snowblind off of Vol. 4 and Into the Void off of Master will blow your mind! I always say this, but Supernaut was Bonham's favorite Sabbath song. He broke Bill Ward's kit attempting to play Supernaut during a Sabbath rehearsal he was hanging out at (they apparently hung out a lot at each other's rehearsals)
the bass on this record is really pushing the limits of your hi-fi setup lol
YES lol
"Fairies in boots", concert in Paris 1970. Very interesting version of this song👍
This song is kind of like Heavy Metal Sesame Street. I know, it’s a weird thought, but I could see Ernie walking down Sesame Street to this heavy, groovin’ beat! Rhymes were unintentional I swear😎
Watch them do "War Pigs" live in Paris, 1970. Ozzy gets lyrics wrong, and Bill Ward rushes the hell out of it. It was LIT.
I've done it!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I just found and watched it, lol. Since you're actually listening... Ginger Baker and Cream were who both Sabbath and Zeppelin were most influenced by.
Going even earlier, i recommend looking at Keith Moon of the Who.
7:16 The lyrics were a mixture of the original song Walpurgis and the studio album Paronoid War Pigs.
It’s been written that ward didn’t have the same level of production of his sounds as say a Bonham.. I’m not a drummer but a fan and this I remember being clearly stated in regard to him not receiving the same accolades as Bonham or other key drummers.
I'd totally agree with that
Andy, you Have yo get a zoom video Q & A with Bill. He just turned 74 in May and I'm sure he would love to talk jazz, trading 8's, swing and all round percussionist 'comping' and both of you would love it. He does have a web site and is based in Southern California. Don't hesitate- now is the time to chat to him! Even better, he would love the idea of reaching all of us drummers that subscribe to your channel and maybe do questions from each album Era! We could all submit questions!! Cheers and good luck!
Waiting for "Under the Sun"
I've always told people that Black Sabbath's got a lot of Jazz in their first 4 records Ozzy antonio omni we're pretty good also but that rhythm section the best Of their time
Alls I can think is “ where have you been all your life!
More Black Sabbath?
PLEASE do Cornucopia by Black Sabbath! Bill thought he was going to be fired from the band because it took him so long to get down the drum part he wanted to play. He actually had to play it slower and they sped the entire track up on the album but it’s SO GOOD!
Masters indeed! Thanks Andrew -lu it!
Mad syncopation in this band, shows how tight they were as a unit. Even Bill's straight 8th notes have a slight swinging quality to them, the space between notes. Good that you're so enamoured with the Sabs, Andrew, there's a lot to dig into.
Even Bill's post-Ozzy stuff was great - listen to him on "Children of the Sea" and "Die Young" off the Heaven and Hell album, or "Trashed", "Disturbing The Priest" or "Keep It Warm" off Born Again.
My favorite Tune
Yeah this is up there for me too
Gallows swing that’s what Black Sabbath are heavy jazz😅😅
Looking forward to the the next sabbath week.sabbath were soooo tight from years on the road,it was interesting when you talked about the cymbal choke I always thought it was bill's hihat
Love it Craig
Soundgarden's sound during the early years of the Seattle grunge scene has been described as consisting of "gnarled neo-Zeppelinisms".[157] The influence of Led Zeppelin was evident, with Q magazine noting that Soundgarden were "in thrall to '70s rock, but contemptuous of the genre's overt sexism and machismo."[158] According to Sub Pop, the band had "a hunky lead singer and fused Led Zeppelin and the Butthole Surfers".
"Soundgarden are quite good..." remarked Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi, "It's very much like the same sort of stuff that we would have done.
Wikipedia.
You mentioned John bonham...he was best man at Tony's wedding and a big Bill Ward fan
Beautiful Jonathan
This is one of my favorite sabbath songs. Corrosion of Conformity does a great cover of it that I actually prefer to sabbath’s, but that’s only because I heard theirs first. They had a little bluesy edge to the guitars, here and there and close with a nod to the debut album toward the end.
It's my favourite cover of a sabbath song.
@@ozzythecats I like most of the NIB tribute album. I heard sabbath covers before hearing them.
Wasn't as keen the the 2nd NIB album but i still listen to the first one now.
@@ozzythecats same
I really enjoyed this Andrew. Not only am I a huge Sabbath fan (almost as much as Yoyoka!) but I’m learning so much more about them as I watch your videos. Thank you. Pat 🏴
When recording this album, the record label gave them a lot more money and a good, dedicated studio, so they had a lot of time to record this one. They spent a full month just recording and experimenting. There's unreleased studio recordings of the same songs with different parts or instruments and whatnot. As for Ozzy's voice. He's almost always doubled his voice but this specific song I have not been able to figure out what they did to them because the sound of the vocals is completely unique. I posted the link for Black Sabbath - Lord Of This World (Studio Outtake) in the reply to this comment. There's definitely an effect on Ozzy, a really light phaser or tremlo, it just sounds a lot bigger than the outtake.
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First three albums all recorded at Regent sounds Studio London England
You picked up on an intersting production point as well, by the way. After this album, Tony Iommi took over the production for the following album (Vol. IV) himself.
@03:09 when that change hits ooohhhh weeeeeee
3:54 Chris Cornell praised Sabbath many times over the years
I bet Chris!
Thank you. Entire album is masterful 😉
Thanks Rick!
Listen to wheels of confusion it starts with a swing feel and has swing feel sections
Mr. Andrew Rooney I love watching your reactions I think you're a fantastic individual. Also I also I really appreciate how informative of a teacher that you are you've got a great personality and I'm sure that your students are Benefiting from that
I appreciate that Nicholas!
You are spot on, on where you were going as far as the production is concerned.
This album is great
Love this Danny