Great review, Steve! Gorgeous dial execution, I like this much more than the Cronos. That instant day/date switch is impressive, I had to replay that section multiple times to catch it!
After owning 7 watches I have realized that my favorite " The watch for life" is " Rolex Day Date" (Homages). My love for day dates started with Citizen AW0100-86A. I have recently bought Pagani DD40 Green dial with Gold bracelet and love it to bits. I dream of getting a more expensive Sugess ice blue day date in the near future , may be as a gift to my self when I become a father again. I love your videos. May you and your family be well and happy. With metta loving kindness to you and your family.
I appreciate the kind words, and right back at ya'! I found just the opposite with the DD homages. I love the look and the thought of wearing them but always felt too flashy for me in the end. 🤷
@@EscapeWheel Mr Steve, My Pagani watch came un-regulated and it gains around 30 seconds per day . I am wondering if this Sugess day date comes regulated ? If not what Chinese brands regulate their watches before shipping ? This is because I have somewhat of an OCD regarding the accuracy of watches. May be that is why I love Casio and Citizen so much as they are super accurate even after months. I really appreciate your reviews and insights on RUclips and Reddit and we immensely enjoy the fruits of your work. Thank you and may you be well.
@@MettaLovingKindness Pagani definitely does NOT regulate their movements. I'd say only a couple do regulate and only 1 guaranteed. Proxima does indeed regulate, and they send a picture before they send the watch. I believe San Martin and IXDAO also regulate. Possibly Baltany as well. If you stick to quartz movements you'll be happier. VK chronographs, and VH31 3 handers
I just got mine, screws are destroyed! I hammered the screw pins back in, scratches everywhere. Looks like a used watch, and only had it for two hours. It's definitely going to be a beater watch now! I ordered the 'Daytona ' Sugess on sale, also. If the screws are like this one, it's getting sent back! And all stick to San Martin's. 5 San Martin's now and never an issue!
Another very nice video! My DD40 should be there by the end of next week. I ordered the version with the black dial. It takes Sugess a whole week to send the clock off
Hi Steve! I love both the Cronos and Sugess watches shown in this episode. I have the Cronos on my wish list in that color way for awhile now, and just put the Sugess on the list last week. Both great homages of two of my favorite watches.
Great review as always. That instant switch over on the date is pretty damn cool. I only have Seiko movements and have worked overnight shifts watching them agonizingly switch the date over a three hour span. Ha! Seestern is hands down my favorite Ali Brand, but I’ve never really given Sugess a look. That may be changing. Thanks again!
I think (but could be wrong) sugess and seestern are the same brand in the same way seiko and Lorus are the same brand or i guess more so king seiko and seiko
@@MyNameIsGhost I think you’re absolutely right. I think Sugess is like Lexus and Seestern is more like Toyota, but Seestern seems to make just Homages.
I didn't think I would like that much the white dial. It really is a good looking watch. It's on my wishlist, but I have to choose between this one and the Cronos. But I have to save money 😅 As always, great review, Steve! Honest, complete, with wonderful pictures at the intro. This is excellent 👌
It looks nice and the price beats the hell out of a Day-Date. I might be interested if they put a Miyota or Sellita in it, but not that cheap chinese movement!😮
I cant decide if i want the Cadisen or Sugess. Since the Sugess is double the Price, is it worth it? Is there any difference in the quality? i like the Sugess Logo way more, but idk if i wanna pay 140$ more if theres no other difference.
Very tough. My only complaint with to sell is from the past and I don't know if they have fixed the issues...it's with their bracelets being of lesser quality steel, rusting basically.
Why do you prefer this to the iron watch? Looked like the iron watch had a better date and the bezel had that bling. Just curious on your reasoning as I’m in the market for either one.
@@EscapeWheel Cool, no problem Steve. If you still have the watch and have the time I'd love to see a quick Short of the watch. I'm kinda in love with this dial colour and itching to pick it up hah. Thanks.
Does look decent, but I have this strange tolerance view with homages. If it's a tool watch, I can tolerate and generally accept them. But when they are more moving into the dress category, I find them tacky, even though this is a decent watch. Just some weird quirk in my mind. I'm not much of a fan of the fluted bezel, even on the R brand. I much prefer the thin high polish bezel and dome sapphire combo on the SN020 instead. Only my 2 cents worth. The white dial is very nice for these types of watches though.
@@EscapeWheel I find with white dial watches it's like a slow burn love, rather than the instant dopamine hit of something novel looking. You sort of appreciate the simplicity of them. I was initially gonna say the purity of the white colour, but then dang, that sounds a bit whack in this multicultural world we live in. So had to rephrase. Lol
I've selected a few Sugess watches for purchase but I refuse to pay online for obvious security reasons. They will not accept CERTIFIED BANK CHECKS. Screw them, I'm moving on to competitors.
@@christopherwilkens4460 you can use PayPal for most sites and AliExpress. So you have the backing and security from them. I have purchased soooo many times, without an issue.
My only gripe about the sugess and it's kinda a big deal for me, is the bezel. I noticed it right away, owning a cronos myself, that bezel was a huge it factor for me of getting it and I never regret. Too bad cronos doesn't make a dd homage. I have a sugess sub and imo it's the best sub homage out of all the ali Express brands subs
I am just VERY underwhelmed with the Cronos Colorways. if they made it in a bunch of colors I'd be more inclined...white, black, dark blue, ice blue, "grape" ...but they chose silver, gray, and an electric blue...and I think now a green?
There is ice blue sugess.Sugess meringue does not shine beautifully.If I buy Cronos, will it take off the bezel and attach to the sugess watch?Are the measurements equal?
I do. Not sure how I would compare them though, they are very different watches. I'd say the Daytona had a more "wow" factor for me...but both are equally as nice
I’ve recently bought the ice blue version of this watch. Great overall. However I am returning it because there’s some major friction when I wind the watch. I am afraid that if I wind it more and more that I would break it. I don’t know how lenient Sugess is with returns. Does anyone have issues returning their Sugess? Thanks.
They seem to be hit and miss. My suggestion is to just not wind it at all, or much. A few turns to get it going, set the time, and wear it. No need to crank the crown 40 times a day
Good idea. I was considering the Pagani Design 1752 Ice blue in 36mm but the bracelet killed the deal for me. If PD did a full presidential bracelet, I would get it hands down. A couple of gripes with DD40, that winding resistance and the slight cant of the date to the left. Other than that, the watch is great quality for under $300. Some Seikos don’t even come close to this level of finishing. Tremendous value. My wife thought I bought a Rolex Day Date. 😂 I told her, I’m not dropping a mortgage down payment on a watch. That wouldn’t be financially unwise. 😂 I told her one day though I will get a Rolex OP or DateJust. Those are my two favorite Rolex watch styles.
@@EscapeWheelI got a cadisen c8215m but later I saw this, I don't like the dial as there isn't any lume so I airways wanted a Cadisen C8215M Meteor dial with seagull st2146 movement 😢😢😢 as cadisen didn't have seconds hacking function
Great review! Just some random feedback that I think could help your views. The intro to the video was too long and I was tempted to find another review. If you make the intro shorter or just get rid of it completely I reckon you will get more views. Just an opinion and opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.
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Sugess has been knocking on San Martin’s door for a year already
Both are same brands already 😂
@@gradtechiethey are not the same company
@@markokoli7460same manufacturing I bet
Great review, Steve! Gorgeous dial execution, I like this much more than the Cronos. That instant day/date switch is impressive, I had to replay that section multiple times to catch it!
Probably my fav El Presidente homage, props to Sugess for using the president Clasp and not a 🦋 Clasp. Thanks for the review 👍
After owning 7 watches I have realized that my favorite " The watch for life" is " Rolex Day Date" (Homages). My love for day dates started with Citizen AW0100-86A. I have recently bought Pagani DD40 Green dial with Gold bracelet and love it to bits. I dream of getting a more expensive Sugess ice blue day date in the near future , may be as a gift to my self when I become a father again. I love your videos. May you and your family be well and happy. With metta loving kindness to you and your family.
I appreciate the kind words, and right back at ya'!
I found just the opposite with the DD homages. I love the look and the thought of wearing them but always felt too flashy for me in the end. 🤷
@@EscapeWheel Mr Steve, My Pagani watch came un-regulated and it gains around 30 seconds per day . I am wondering if this Sugess day date comes regulated ? If not what Chinese brands regulate their watches before shipping ? This is because I have somewhat of an OCD regarding the accuracy of watches. May be that is why I love Casio and Citizen so much as they are super accurate even after months. I really appreciate your reviews and insights on RUclips and Reddit and we immensely enjoy the fruits of your work. Thank you and may you be well.
@@MettaLovingKindness Pagani definitely does NOT regulate their movements. I'd say only a couple do regulate and only 1 guaranteed. Proxima does indeed regulate, and they send a picture before they send the watch. I believe San Martin and IXDAO also regulate. Possibly Baltany as well.
If you stick to quartz movements you'll be happier. VK chronographs, and VH31 3 handers
Steve I’d buy the Sugess just for that almost precise day/date change! I have a few high end watches that can’t match that!👏🏼😎👍🏼
I just got mine, screws are destroyed! I hammered the screw pins back in, scratches everywhere. Looks like a used watch, and only had it for two hours. It's definitely going to be a beater watch now! I ordered the 'Daytona ' Sugess on sale, also. If the screws are like this one, it's getting sent back! And all stick to San Martin's. 5 San Martin's now and never an issue!
Another very nice video! My DD40 should be there by the end of next week. I ordered the version with the black dial. It takes Sugess a whole week to send the clock off
Hi Steve! I love both the Cronos and Sugess watches shown in this episode. I have the Cronos on my wish list in that color way for awhile now, and just put the Sugess on the list last week. Both great homages of two of my favorite watches.
Which did u end up getting? Im like literally about to buy the sugess as we speak but wanted to rewatch this before i pulled the trigger
@@MyNameIsGhostI ended up buying a Cronos “sub m” homage because of a great price.
Great review as always. That instant switch over on the date is pretty damn cool. I only have Seiko movements and have worked overnight shifts watching them agonizingly switch the date over a three hour span. Ha! Seestern is hands down my favorite Ali Brand, but I’ve never really given Sugess a look. That may be changing. Thanks again!
I think (but could be wrong) sugess and seestern are the same brand in the same way seiko and Lorus are the same brand or i guess more so king seiko and seiko
@@MyNameIsGhost I think you’re absolutely right. I think Sugess is like Lexus and Seestern is more like Toyota, but Seestern seems to make just Homages.
Great review. I suspect I’m not alone in thinking that a 36mm version would sell really well.
Yes, I'm sure many would like a 36mm
I wouldn't get anything else. 36mm needed!!
@@gideonMorrison Yup, only interested in this model as a 36mm.
I didn't think I would like that much the white dial. It really is a good looking watch.
It's on my wishlist, but I have to choose between this one and the Cronos. But I have to save money 😅
As always, great review, Steve! Honest, complete, with wonderful pictures at the intro. This is excellent 👌
Thanks Jonathan! It's a tough call for sure
It's a great looking watch, but that date alignment would drive me nuts! lol Great review bro!
It's just so obviously off, I think someone just put in the dimensions for a window for an NH35 and forgot to update them for the seagull 🤷
Great in depth review as always 👍 . The bling bezel, polished case and bracelet are just too much, a leather strap would tone it down, but 21mm lugs 👎
Beautiful watch, that Cronos looked pretty good as well.
Looks sharp, do wish there was a good 36mm option
RIMALTI has a nice 36mm DJ, just not a Day date. And IIRC no white dial
It looks nice and the price beats the hell out of a Day-Date. I might be interested if they put a Miyota or Sellita in it, but not that cheap chinese movement!😮
Seagull 's been making watch movements since 1955, before Miyota which started in 1959. Their movements are top notch.
I owned a replica of the daydate 40 made by BP factory. I feel like sugess sourced the case from the same supplier
Im not a watch expert but what watch is this sugess based from?
I cant decide if i want the Cadisen or Sugess. Since the Sugess is double the Price, is it worth it? Is there any difference in the quality?
i like the Sugess Logo way more, but idk if i wanna pay 140$ more if theres no other difference.
Hi Steve, Tisell Explorer 36 or Cronos Explorer 36? Tough choice for me 😢
Very tough. My only complaint with to sell is from the past and I don't know if they have fixed the issues...it's with their bracelets being of lesser quality steel, rusting basically.
Why do you prefer this to the iron watch? Looked like the iron watch had a better date and the bezel had that bling. Just curious on your reasoning as I’m in the market for either one.
Branding, dial color, and most importantly, this one is over a mm thinner.
Steve I can't find the review of the silver dial Cronos on the channel? I already own the blue one thanks to your earlier review of it.
No review of the silver. Sorry
@@EscapeWheel Cool, no problem Steve. If you still have the watch and have the time I'd love to see a quick Short of the watch. I'm kinda in love with this dial colour and itching to pick it up hah. Thanks.
The emblem is pretty cool. I like it.
Me too!
Does look decent, but I have this strange tolerance view with homages. If it's a tool watch, I can tolerate and generally accept them. But when they are more moving into the dress category, I find them tacky, even though this is a decent watch. Just some weird quirk in my mind. I'm not much of a fan of the fluted bezel, even on the R brand. I much prefer the thin high polish bezel and dome sapphire combo on the SN020 instead. Only my 2 cents worth. The white dial is very nice for these types of watches though.
I hear ya. Feels a little more awkward wearing this around. But Rolex wasn't the only fluted bezel out there, just the most recognizable
@@EscapeWheel I find with white dial watches it's like a slow burn love, rather than the instant dopamine hit of something novel looking. You sort of appreciate the simplicity of them. I was initially gonna say the purity of the white colour, but then dang, that sounds a bit whack in this multicultural world we live in. So had to rephrase. Lol
@@garyk8285 lol. I hear ya though 👍. Love me some white dials
How do u like the bezel in Sugess vs Cronos?
I own a Cronos and personally im suprised by quality of the watch.
Yup, Cronos wins. Best fluted bezel out there.
I just am not a fan of the colors they offer, only reason I got this.
Nice choice of music. Pretty.
Thank you!
All these chineses manufacturers should start using moissanite to simulate diamonds. It would bring it to a whole other level.
I also found that the date is misaligned to the left, not center. 😢
If Sugess can correct this defect, it is a nice watch.
yup, just a tiny bit.
Doubting between this and the san martin. thanks
Can't go wrong with either, really. SM will be nicer, but it's not like this was bad, at all.
I've selected a few Sugess watches for purchase but I refuse to pay online for obvious security reasons. They will not accept CERTIFIED BANK CHECKS. Screw them, I'm moving on to competitors.
@@christopherwilkens4460 you can use PayPal for most sites and AliExpress. So you have the backing and security from them.
I have purchased soooo many times, without an issue.
My only gripe about the sugess and it's kinda a big deal for me, is the bezel. I noticed it right away, owning a cronos myself, that bezel was a huge it factor for me of getting it and I never regret. Too bad cronos doesn't make a dd homage. I have a sugess sub and imo it's the best sub homage out of all the ali Express brands subs
I am just VERY underwhelmed with the Cronos Colorways. if they made it in a bunch of colors I'd be more inclined...white, black, dark blue, ice blue, "grape" ...but they chose silver, gray, and an electric blue...and I think now a green?
Bezel on watch : SS , Bronze with plated palladium OR SS PLATED ?? CRONUS has bronze bezel plated.
Hi can I ask if this has the same high beat standard as the Grand Seikos?
There is ice blue sugess.Sugess meringue does not shine beautifully.If I buy Cronos, will it take off the bezel and attach to the sugess watch?Are the measurements equal?
I don't know. I wouldn't count on the bezel being a direct swap
This looks very good
Do you still have a Sugess Daytona homage? Can you compare them side by side?
I do. Not sure how I would compare them though, they are very different watches. I'd say the Daytona had a more "wow" factor for me...but both are equally as nice
They need to improve the sharpness of the fluted bezel, nobody can do it proper it seems..
Cronos sets the bar
I’ve recently bought the ice blue version of this watch. Great overall. However I am returning it because there’s some major friction when I wind the watch. I am afraid that if I wind it more and more that I would break it. I don’t know how lenient Sugess is with returns. Does anyone have issues returning their Sugess? Thanks.
They seem to be hit and miss. My suggestion is to just not wind it at all, or much. A few turns to get it going, set the time, and wear it. No need to crank the crown 40 times a day
Good idea. I was considering the Pagani Design 1752 Ice blue in 36mm but the bracelet killed the deal for me. If PD did a full presidential bracelet, I would get it hands down. A couple of gripes with DD40, that winding resistance and the slight cant of the date to the left. Other than that, the watch is great quality for under $300. Some Seikos don’t even come close to this level of finishing. Tremendous value. My wife thought I bought a Rolex Day Date. 😂 I told her, I’m not dropping a mortgage down payment on a watch. That wouldn’t be financially unwise. 😂 I told her one day though I will get a Rolex OP or DateJust. Those are my two favorite Rolex watch styles.
Mine does it too, major friction when winding....has it been better over time?
Well made
Finally you did it😂😂😂
What did I do? 🤣🤷
@@EscapeWheel you said, you won't review it but you did finally 🤣🤣
@@gradtechie ah, yup, I couldn't resist it...lol
@@EscapeWheelI got a cadisen c8215m but later I saw this, I don't like the dial as there isn't any lume so I airways wanted a Cadisen C8215M Meteor dial with seagull st2146 movement 😢😢😢 as cadisen didn't have seconds hacking function
Great review! Just some random feedback that I think could help your views. The intro to the video was too long and I was tempted to find another review. If you make the intro shorter or just get rid of it completely I reckon you will get more views. Just an opinion and opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.
I appreciate the feedback...I have since cut it about in half...typically around 33 seconds these days.
any advice on searching ali? its so bad.
Lol, use Google. It'll usually have the Ali lol you are looking for.
If the bezel is not platium, you dont buy it. Buy the cronos
Don't like the crinkle bezel. Never have
I got one and the crown was so bad I had to return it
It's not great. It's just so small.
40mm is too big for this type of watch imo.
Killed by the pathetic clasp !
@50mm lug2lug. it's made for big wrist