Hey, Found this video through dwellers' video, and as someone who has an interest in Transit Maps and Map Design... I hate it with a passion. If they were going for the "spaghetti because it will be interesting" then they need to hire experts because it's a monstrosity. When I was first shown the images of the maps I went on a big fat rant to that person. There's somewhat an unwritten rule with transit maps where even if they look geographically inaccurate, they still have to be a "simplified" accuracy to where it's close to what it looks like on a real map. As well, Much like the Tube Map, New York Subway Map, A map of the Paris Metro or even a map of Chiltern Railways, There maps are easy to navigate and memorable and so good you can get from a 2 b easily. What I loved about the old map was that it had a clear and memorable design, when I thought of SCR, one of the things I thought was the map. If this was real passenger service, They would have never done anything like it considering a massive backlash would ensue and you would get several groups going after HR. I would love to hear what Charlie and the Managers reasons are for making this change and wish they would talk with the community more about this. My hope is for a revert to the old map with the update. There was no need for this map change.
@@JuliosStuff I think the map is really good! Right? And the “is this a bowl of spaghetti spilt on my screen? I really can’t help. Please help.” Is funny.
1. The managers have absolutely nothing to do with this. 2. This was just a simple mistake by tpx_jm, there already is a much better version. There really was no need to hate him so much
I already see the 6-year-old kids expanding Connect to Connolly, Waterline to Willowfield, Airlink to Stepford Victoria via Willowfield and *cries* Express to New Harrow. (Oh wait, Express will create a loop by extending between St. Helens Bridge and Newry Harbour + forming a triangle between Beaulieu Park and Morganstown Docks)
the thing I hate most is that Whitney Green and Greenslade are shown inbetween the Benton and Morganstown lines, when in reality they are past the Morganstown line
I officially quit SCR due to 1.9. The developers went to hell with Express to Newry Harbour, defeating the purpose of “Stepford” Express, they ruined Waterline, and the 195 and connect??? Worthless. But I still watch the videos like this people make :)
there is a unwritten issue with express, some people criticised Express being a "FAST CONNECT" reputation, and because of this, they extend express to newry harbour because of the criticism
the main things I hate about it is that it doesn't face north everything looks so messy round benton the benton area is so messy i cant even look anywhere else on the map my eyes just keep getting distracted by benton
I like the map as it looks more realistic to real life but it looks more confusing and “really not the best” it could be improved, also my boy waterline was destroyed. It could look a lot better, me and the map have a love hate relationship
I agree with the waterline bit, but i dont really think thats its more realistic because i dont really think that places like newry and stepford central are that close
The old map has been in the game since 1.0 it completely geographical inaccurate and makes its it so every thing to the left of Hampton hargate look too close together
The new map looks really messy, and it's have totally wrong geographical location In real life the Route map follow the relative position, but it also follows geographical location.
Well it's like this how express go to newry Express Manager: hey waterline add express to newry. I'll pay you 1billion $ Waterline: umm sure but i don't think it'll be good
i dont 100% like this 1.9 update as well.... Not just the map but the stupid eden transform accompany with a nonsense express to newry anddmorganstown, in terms of transportation management, this is terrible, the main role of express is as a quick point to point, connect+waterline connects nearby peoples, scr was originally really good managed on that with different operators operating different roles, but, not anymore, it used to be the Benton main line as the backbone of the whole system and waterline as as i branch up for residents, an express hav no point of it as it is not the role of express, also, if they want speed services in waterline, they shd have refer back to the japanese metro system, with rapid trains that does not stop at all stations but using the same operator, eg. Waterline rapid services to Newry. Some scenery and events updates i quite like it, but not the express extension and the eden rebuild and the map. Recents updates of scr started to be doing a bit of nonsense things instead of trying to get in some new connect lines or new waterlines.
@@roemerjonker284 I am allowed to express my own opinions, I didn't say that i literally hate everything in the game, i was talking about the map ONLY. Its ok if you like the map though
Hey,
Found this video through dwellers' video, and as someone who has an interest in Transit Maps and Map Design... I hate it with a passion. If they were going for the "spaghetti because it will be interesting" then they need to hire experts because it's a monstrosity. When I was first shown the images of the maps I went on a big fat rant to that person.
There's somewhat an unwritten rule with transit maps where even if they look geographically inaccurate, they still have to be a "simplified" accuracy to where it's close to what it looks like on a real map. As well, Much like the Tube Map, New York Subway Map, A map of the Paris Metro or even a map of Chiltern Railways, There maps are easy to navigate and memorable and so good you can get from a 2 b easily. What I loved about the old map was that it had a clear and memorable design, when I thought of SCR, one of the things I thought was the map. If this was real passenger service, They would have never done anything like it considering a massive backlash would ensue and you would get several groups going after HR.
I would love to hear what Charlie and the Managers reasons are for making this change and wish they would talk with the community more about this. My hope is for a revert to the old map with the update. There was no need for this map change.
Really good comment! Pinned!
Yeah its almost like the HBD didnt know what they were doing
@@JuliosStuff I think the map is really good! Right? And the “is this a bowl of spaghetti spilt on my screen? I really can’t help. Please help.” Is funny.
1. The managers have absolutely nothing to do with this.
2. This was just a simple mistake by tpx_jm, there already is a much better version. There really was no need to hate him so much
I already see the 6-year-old kids expanding Connect to Connolly, Waterline to Willowfield, Airlink to Stepford Victoria via Willowfield and *cries* Express to New Harrow. (Oh wait, Express will create a loop by extending between St. Helens Bridge and Newry Harbour + forming a triangle between Beaulieu Park and Morganstown Docks)
lol
Lol
Ich mag dein Profilbild :)
@@oevspotteryan meins?
Lol 😂
the thing I hate most is that Whitney Green and Greenslade are shown inbetween the Benton and Morganstown lines, when in reality they are past the Morganstown line
Proputterplayz journeys when 1.9 map out: aight let's go walk to llyn from elsemere junction as they are near and let's save money!
The map feels like it's trying to be geographically inaccurate and not necessarily helpful to passengers
Not used to this map, I want the old one back!
YES LETS BRING THE OLD ONE BACK 👏👏👏
No! This new map rules!
No
@@disappointingmarbleraces9028 Yes. I mean the new map’s cool and all. What’s the matter with that?
@@disappointingmarbleraces9028 Calm the flunk down!
The best way to describe the new map:
Spaghetti.
yup
1:36 love the pacer literally going through and him not even ranting about how he hates pacers
The new map does look messy tbh so I don't blame you and in my opinion I recon it would be better in a tube map format. Idk what do you guys think??
I love how he forgot to add the express dot at westercoast
WESTERCOAST NOO MY FAVORITE STATION
At that point there should be a Railway from Llyn to Elsemere Junction
there is already express
They mixed the operator with the slowest lines with the operator with the fastest lines x)
I can agree, although the Connect map is my no. 1 reason for hating the map. I hope that they bring the older map back or something similar in 1.9.1.
I forgot to point out the operator maps lol
@@JuliosStuff no
No
Just no
3:28
Mario POV
Mario: Luigi has made lotsa spaghetti!
Trainspotting Mayhem: 'Berrily aint pog'
Julios Stuff: 'This New Map aint pog'
I officially quit SCR due to 1.9. The developers went to hell with Express to Newry Harbour, defeating the purpose of “Stepford” Express, they ruined Waterline, and the 195 and connect??? Worthless. But I still watch the videos like this people make :)
there is a unwritten issue with express, some people criticised Express being a "FAST CONNECT" reputation, and because of this, they extend express to newry harbour because of the criticism
at least check out the airport update
when i first saw the new map i was really confused, it took me a few mins to understand everything lol
The new map is an eyesore and I can’t see the station properly
What if I ate the SCR map for lunch?
I bet it’s gonna get lots of backlash that the devs will be forced to change it
Probably not
@@JuliosStuff true
Let’s see, we will never know
the main things I hate about it is that it doesn't face north everything looks so messy round benton the benton area is so messy i cant even look anywhere else on the map my eyes just keep getting distracted by benton
I hate the express map, it looks like a gun
True
Honestly this update in general should of been 1.8.5
the lines on the map now look like squiggly worms
lol
Stepford Central is more Stepford SouthWest, I think the Benton area holds the title Stepford Central at this point
1:36 “I feel bad for waterline”
*waterline train appear*
I like the map as it looks more realistic to real life but it looks more confusing and “really not the best” it could be improved, also my boy waterline was destroyed. It could look a lot better, me and the map have a love hate relationship
I agree with the waterline bit, but i dont really think thats its more realistic because i dont really think that places like newry and stepford central are that close
@@JuliosStuff I didn’t mean realistic as in geographical. I meant a real life Train map would be more like that lol, I see the confusing
@@AdistuffRBX i havent seen one map in my whole life that looks similar to that lol
after i ONLY DRAWING WATERLINE ON THE SCR MAP, I think its some kind of dog in a bad look, the mgt shuttle branch looks like the tail
1.10s map is minorly inaccurate as the greenslade line is BELOW the AL,CN AND EX tracks but the map ssys its ontop
The 1.9 map was so bad that he broke the sound barrier when he saw it at 0:13
How did you open the map
What I think: if Stepford Express Extension was shown on the old map, well i think its badder then the new one
sry badder -> worse i havent learned superlatives yet
1.8 style map was better. Please in 1.9.1 or 1.10 bring the old map back.
No 2.0
@@kaseycaseyiel 2.0 means complete overhaul
I don’t think the James street extension would fit on the map
1.10 redrew the map already
How do you get it?
0:34 You can see me by the transparency
lol "rant pacer" more sedate than a "rant turbo" or a "rant sprinter"
Hmmm. Its very fine once youve seen the new 1.10 map
The old map has been in the game since 1.0 it completely geographical inaccurate and makes its it so every thing to the left of Hampton hargate look too close together
I was making a video and the map was so confusing that i couldn’t figure out what line i was ment to show my veiwers
Opinion on new map
I'm am very disapointed, i am waiting WATERLINE JAME STREET EXTENSION.
Is this a bowl of spaghetti spilt on my screen I can't even
imo it makes stepford look like its small and not that relevant
welp benton area is more cramped on the map
The new map looks really messy, and it's have totally wrong geographical location
In real life the Route map follow the relative position, but it also follows geographical location.
At first that map was SCARY.
i swear the new scr map looks like a boiled potato cake
Elsemere-By-The-Sea and St Helens Harbour
Well it's like this how express go to newry
Express Manager: hey waterline add express to newry. I'll pay you 1billion $
Waterline: umm sure but i don't think it'll be good
I think the sneak peek made it look worse than it actually was.
Yeah thats true but it still doesnt look great in my opinion
The map doesn't even look similar to what the network looks like
Rip 1.9 map. Hello 1.10 map.
Finally someone agrees with me.
When you say water line water line train comes
give me the gun, im going to destroy the map
Yer map is very wired but it's well ok igs
I have a friend who begin the game 2 days before 1.9 maybe he get lost xD
Awwsnap here we go again
I honestly agree tbh
1. Hate The Map Because Noobs Don't Know what to do and Noobs Will Say did Mario cook it
I love the new map. Fight me
I think that everyone hates the map
i dont 100% like this 1.9 update as well.... Not just the map but the stupid eden transform accompany with a nonsense express to newry anddmorganstown, in terms of transportation management, this is terrible, the main role of express is as a quick point to point, connect+waterline connects nearby peoples, scr was originally really good managed on that with different operators operating different roles, but, not anymore, it used to be the Benton main line as the backbone of the whole system and waterline as as i branch up for residents, an express hav no point of it as it is not the role of express, also, if they want speed services in waterline, they shd have refer back to the japanese metro system, with rapid trains that does not stop at all stations but using the same operator, eg. Waterline rapid services to Newry. Some scenery and events updates i quite like it, but not the express extension and the eden rebuild and the map. Recents updates of scr started to be doing a bit of nonsense things instead of trying to get in some new connect lines or new waterlines.
Me too
i hate it too
I want to throw up 😩🤢🤕🤮
I agree
It’s confusing
#Maps
0:16
Julios 1.10 has came out go look at the map now 😅😅😅😅😅 your your not gunna like it
I like the new one way more
I can see why you would like it, but in my opinion, it doesn't look any better then the old one
If you hate the map then you hate the whole game
No lol
@@JuliosStuff then live with the new map
@@roemerjonker284 I am allowed to express my own opinions, I didn't say that i literally hate everything in the game, i was talking about the map ONLY. Its ok if you like the map though
@@JuliosStuff like I said live with it
@@roemerjonker284 you live with the fact that practically everyone hates it