Huge disappointment. Infinity ultron, the guy who beat up Uatu and brought strange supreme to his knees, somehow got one shotted by a group of watchers who struggled with empowered guardians of the multiverse. Infinity ultron stated he could one shot kahhori, storm and byrdie. He was considered the greatest threat to the multiverse, the only variant capable of breaking into the fifth dimension. I get it that the watcher granted peggy and the rest his power , but it still makes little sense how they faired so much better against the eminence and his disciples than ultron did. The only rewarding bit of this episode is strange supreme's intervention. The fact that he turned into a constellation and controls a whole universe even post defeat is crazy. Other than that, they pretty much wasted a lot of potential. Infinity ultron, watcher and celestial agatha should have been the ones fighting against the watcher trio. Ultron on his own should have been the game changer, eventually turning against his teammates before being outsmarted by the watcher and ending up depowered like the eminence did. Loki should have also made at least a cameo in this episode. This multiversal affairs should interest him now that he keeps the timelines together. The guardians of the multiverse stated they traveled to the tva, yet they could not break into the fifth dimension. Loki can time travel inside the tva implying higher dimensional existence as well. They could have made this conclusion so much better.
Yeah but he’s the thing, the Infinity Ultron that died here was *not* the same variant in season 1. The Watcher from season 1 considered Infinity Ultron a threat because he wielded every infinity stone across the multiverse when he gained sentience hearing the watcher. This is the variant that had the stones from his specific universe not the multiverse in addition to the fragment boost.
@@NASALunarLightno lmfao he took the stones from thanos and he heard the watcher bc he was observing him in his universe...they are both the same infinity ultron
different ultron bud. S1 ultron was the goat he has comprehend abilities beyond his own even without the fragments, blud just realize the existence of the watcher. And then decided to decimate the multiverse, and even with all of strange abilities he was only able to seal him not destroy him. This ultron did not surpassed the boundary he was confined to his own universe until carter gave him the fragment.
So you mean to tell me all the Watcher had to do was contact his peers or superiors. Tell them “a machine with the cosmic stones heard me monologuing and now is aware of our existence and is able go toe to toe with me, I need help” but instead decide to break his oath that cause everything up to this point to happened.
It's worse when you think about it, he could have just asked this "nice" version of Infinity Ultron to deal with the one meddling in the Multiverse... What if after season 1 should have continued as a "What if" not a whole series who's writing when through the window straight into the garbage.
@shindoliferp250yearschroni5 but they didnt know if there was a nice version. They were hesitant to contact him. And they were planning to ambush him and reprogram him. Also eminence defeating ultron doesnt mean they would easily defeat him in s1. He fought the watcher and won almost killed him. Eminence wasnt that stronger than uatu when they fought. He just knew some tricks but none of them are fighters.
I don't even understand, Infinity Ultron had beaten Uatu, and thoughtout the fight, Uatu fights evenly the Eminence, but Ultron gets no diffed? Nonsense.
@@eternalmindblocks8359 Maybe it could be because evil Infinity Ultron was fighting to absolutely kill The Watcher, but this Ultron was fighting to... I don't know what his plan was. Good Ultron sold.
Oh look. Captain Carter again. NOBODY saw THAT coming. Whoever wrote this show needs a timeout from professional writing. Unimaginative and a waste of a good concept. An INFINITE multiverse and they rehash the same characters in the season finale every time. Literally the worst thing you can do with an infinite multiverse is make it feel small.
@ unfortunately, we probably still have another couple of years of it because so much was already in the pipeline before the current election, which showed studios that tropes like that, in fact, do NOT sell well. The ship is beginning to right itself but it won’t happen overnight.
Shame. Ultron had finally evolved into a sentient being who understood the true meaning of life. It was lazy writing and they wasted the character. They should at least bring him back for Exiles with the Watcher going back in time to save him for his sacrifice.
Way to break up the hype Disney, a character so powerful, returned, made the watcher flee, became a threat to the multiverse only to lose without even a fight? (Also still cant get over ultron losing to an old hydra virus) Dude even got an redemption arc.... Well we whats done is done nothing we can do about it lol
I don't get it, who is the villain here? The ones who swore an oath of non-interference and abide by it... or Uatu, who tries to have his cake and eat it too by playing favorites? Man, even Doctor Who managed an arc where the Doctor attempted to defy his rules and immediately met repercussions hitting him like a truck. This is just confusing.
To those wondering, no, Infinity Ultron was not nerfed. Way back in season one, Infinity Ultron "matched" with Uatu because he is merely a disciple of the Eminence, alongside his two other confidants. With their three powers combined, Ultron was nothing compared to them. They are not beings within a universal plane; they reside in a higher plane of existence, namely the fifth dimension. They are cosmic entities beyond anything you could possibly imagine, but not higher than the Living Tribunal.
If other Watchers can kill infinity Ultron, why Uatu (Main Watcher character) bother to create guardians of the multiverse team to begin with ,he could seek help from the other watchers (specially from the Eminence, the Watcher) to simply defeat infinity Ultron in season 1.
@@carlxd467 bro what do u mean use your head? Maybe you are the one not using yours. Uatu never intervened until ultron discovered his existence. What can you do if you get spotted and the one who spotted you starts beating the living hell out of you? You just observe? nice analogy bud
I think alot of people confused here, The Eminence were a being can't be killed as Uatu said, meaning it need another watcher to kill another as we seen they were almost dead in the fight. Infinity Ultron was very powerful but seems his powers aren't going to kill all 3 of them leader decided to kill the machine and went for the head. Remember a simple virus deactivated Ultran before? If Ultran were only fighting one by one involving power attacks most likely Ultra would've able to overwhelming them. For example Ultron is water and Watchers are fire but sadly Ultron water doesn't work on them physically but their fire will works on him physically.
In retrospect, A watcher standing up to someone with a full infinity gem set was always fishy. They were always on the lower end of the cosmic hierarchy in Marvel comics, should've known they'd be gassed up so even more absurd ends.
I know right. Like they missed on the chance to build a very interesting and powerful character and slowly build a story around him and increase the powerscale in a good pace but no they just had to kill ultron after we become interested in a good version of him arriving and to no surprise Peggy gets more powerful somehow.
At this point should just stick to movies cuz they suck ass at making series like how tf you go from making ultron the most op character in the verse to him getting one shot by a watcher 💀 marvel yet again fails to make a series that’s worth watching
Bro held off three watchers. Prime him could solo one. I think this is a great showcasing of his power. And I'm sure there are other Ultrons who have came to this ones conclusion. So dont be to sad about this ones death. And stop with this m she u bs. The team won by the skin off their teeth. If the captain didn't pull the words WILL POWER from the depths of their soul. We would have gotten the bad ending. Or I guess you'd call it the good ending. They didn't even "beat" the Eminence. They subdued him. God knows if they didn't land in Supreme Stevens verse. The slaughter would continue.
No the eminence overpowered the powers of the stones combined easily...he wasn't even affected by them there is nothing that infinity ultron can do here he is getting destroyed badly
@@kangconqueror8661 I think it was their dimension otherwise in season 1 he did beat watcher with infinity stones power , and even he wasn't that powerful , he could have bought more time by fighting hand to hand
@LeonScottKennedy69 They were getting wrecked before taking the watchers oath. Also those supreme watchers were still holding back. They had powers to erase every variant from the universe whenever they wanted.
@@Alertchase even if they take the waychers oath still they are not watchers Uatu was fighting equal against eminence but in s1 he got his ass whooped by ultron Power scaling is not making any sense
Then why is Uatu can puch the Emesence down to the ground and nearly defeated him later. The episode totally wasted Ultron . I wish I could see him fighting together with Uatu.
It is unknown if snapping away the three Watchers with the Stones could/would work in the 5th dimension. Also, Infinity Ultron number 2 was trying to redeem himself on some level for eliminating all life in his universe.
Damn! This is beyond nonsensical! Why is Peggy in every finale fighting multiverse beings with cosmic powers?!! This is one of the worst thing coming out of this show! So if any character at any point say the watcher's oath become a watcher 😂😂😂😂 who wrote this? What a way to disrespect the unstoppable force that is infinity ultron!
sinister strange and superior iron man would've been better than byrdie and peggy carter (even though byrdie and peggy are both baddies) and it would equalize the exiles better.
Idk about the others but byrdie kinda oneshotted all of the mcu villains as a newborn. But that portal girl and peggy are kinda useless. Storm is cool tho
Ah yes my guy is a type he laugh when a character who is a biggest threat to whole what if ss 2 and now he getting bully like a punching bag ? Yall rl have a good taste on movie ngl 💀
Also for both in case if yall dont know those shitty ass nerf is because woke Js look at main chars team fulk of female u already understand no need to be a pro yapper here
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Huge disappointment. Infinity ultron, the guy who beat up Uatu and brought strange supreme to his knees, somehow got one shotted by a group of watchers who struggled with empowered guardians of the multiverse. Infinity ultron stated he could one shot kahhori, storm and byrdie. He was considered the greatest threat to the multiverse, the only variant capable of breaking into the fifth dimension. I get it that the watcher granted peggy and the rest his power , but it still makes little sense how they faired so much better against the eminence and his disciples than ultron did. The only rewarding bit of this episode is strange supreme's intervention. The fact that he turned into a constellation and controls a whole universe even post defeat is crazy. Other than that, they pretty much wasted a lot of potential. Infinity ultron, watcher and celestial agatha should have been the ones fighting against the watcher trio. Ultron on his own should have been the game changer, eventually turning against his teammates before being outsmarted by the watcher and ending up depowered like the eminence did. Loki should have also made at least a cameo in this episode. This multiversal affairs should interest him now that he keeps the timelines together. The guardians of the multiverse stated they traveled to the tva, yet they could not break into the fifth dimension. Loki can time travel inside the tva implying higher dimensional existence as well. They could have made this conclusion so much better.
It’s not that deep 💀
Yeah but he’s the thing, the Infinity Ultron that died here was *not* the same variant in season 1. The Watcher from season 1 considered Infinity Ultron a threat because he wielded every infinity stone across the multiverse when he gained sentience hearing the watcher. This is the variant that had the stones from his specific universe not the multiverse in addition to the fragment boost.
@@NASALunarLightno lmfao he took the stones from thanos and he heard the watcher bc he was observing him in his universe...they are both the same infinity ultron
different ultron bud. S1 ultron was the goat he has comprehend abilities beyond his own even without the fragments, blud just realize the existence of the watcher. And then decided to decimate the multiverse, and even with all of strange abilities he was only able to seal him not destroy him. This ultron did not surpassed the boundary he was confined to his own universe until carter gave him the fragment.
It’s one of em
“The boss when you unlock em” things..😂
The boss when you unlock him:
Hahaha this is the best comment😃
So you mean to tell me all the Watcher had to do was contact his peers or superiors. Tell them “a machine with the cosmic stones heard me monologuing and now is aware of our existence and is able go toe to toe with me, I need help” but instead decide to break his oath that cause everything up to this point to happened.
It's worse when you think about it, he could have just asked this "nice" version of Infinity Ultron to deal with the one meddling in the Multiverse...
What if after season 1 should have continued as a "What if" not a whole series who's writing when through the window straight into the garbage.
tbf they seemed to have excused the ultron incident since that mf was just causing chaos
@shindoliferp250yearschroni5 but they didnt know if there was a nice version. They were hesitant to contact him. And they were planning to ambush him and reprogram him. Also eminence defeating ultron doesnt mean they would easily defeat him in s1. He fought the watcher and won almost killed him. Eminence wasnt that stronger than uatu when they fought. He just knew some tricks but none of them are fighters.
Yeah, what is season three episode eight is kind of bullshit because Ultron was even more powerful in that episode and he still got one shot
They fucking wasted Dr. Strange Supreme, then Infinity Ultron. Wow…
I don't even understand, Infinity Ultron had beaten Uatu, and thoughtout the fight, Uatu fights evenly the Eminence, but Ultron gets no diffed? Nonsense.
@@jxstiredI think this ultron is weaker then the original infinity ultron
@@eternalmindblocks8359 Maybe it could be because evil Infinity Ultron was fighting to absolutely kill The Watcher, but this Ultron was fighting to... I don't know what his plan was.
Good Ultron sold.
@@jxstiredbut that makes no sense when you remeber he uses a shared from the 5th diemension to power himself up
Imagine, building up one of the most interesting spin off shows and then ending it with a season like this.
Oh look. Captain Carter again. NOBODY saw THAT coming. Whoever wrote this show needs a timeout from professional writing. Unimaginative and a waste of a good concept. An INFINITE multiverse and they rehash the same characters in the season finale every time. Literally the worst thing you can do with an infinite multiverse is make it feel small.
The girl-power trope is so worn out and tiresome
@ unfortunately, we probably still have another couple of years of it because so much was already in the pipeline before the current election, which showed studios that tropes like that, in fact, do NOT sell well. The ship is beginning to right itself but it won’t happen overnight.
People are becoming more and more lazy these days and when we address their laziness (not judging, just addressing) suddenly we become hateful.
They should be blacklisted from all typed of writing jobs!
For some reason it seems to me that in the next season she will return as if nothing happened and they will also somehow bring Ultron back to life
At this point, Vision's body just exists to die in EVERY marvel project EVER.
Thanos vibes
Boss when you unlock them as a playable character.
if Ultron was a woman he would have won
True asf😢
Facts
if he became trans and non-binary then he would definitely win over everyone
Ultron’s a robot, they don’t have genders
You can really tell that the writers have 0 interest in feedback from the audience.
Shame. Ultron had finally evolved into a sentient being who understood the true meaning of life. It was lazy writing and they wasted the character. They should at least bring him back for Exiles with the Watcher going back in time to save him for his sacrifice.
Way to break up the hype Disney, a character so powerful, returned, made the watcher flee, became a threat to the multiverse only to lose without even a fight? (Also still cant get over ultron losing to an old hydra virus)
Dude even got an redemption arc....
Well we whats done is done nothing we can do about it lol
This has gotta be one of the worst shows ever
Season 3 was the worst
True
@mawinstallation6626 the worst part is that was the last season i was expected to going on for much more seasons
It fell off SOO HARD. Season 1 was great and now we got this...
@jeremiahgreen5632 woke studio took over so
I don't get it, who is the villain here? The ones who swore an oath of non-interference and abide by it... or Uatu, who tries to have his cake and eat it too by playing favorites?
Man, even Doctor Who managed an arc where the Doctor attempted to defy his rules and immediately met repercussions hitting him like a truck. This is just confusing.
To those wondering, no, Infinity Ultron was not nerfed. Way back in season one, Infinity Ultron "matched" with Uatu because he is merely a disciple of the Eminence, alongside his two other confidants. With their three powers combined, Ultron was nothing compared to them. They are not beings within a universal plane; they reside in a higher plane of existence, namely the fifth dimension. They are cosmic entities beyond anything you could possibly imagine, but not higher than the Living Tribunal.
Basically Powerpuff girls with watcher as professor utonium
I can't believe they kill infinity Ultron😢
Again. Like Kenny.
Bruh I was so hyped to see him go head to head with the other watchers, and then he fuckin dies
@TheOldestPrimordial like a bantha?
If other Watchers can kill infinity Ultron, why Uatu (Main Watcher character) bother to create guardians of the multiverse team to begin with ,he could seek help from the other watchers (specially from the Eminence, the Watcher) to simply defeat infinity Ultron in season 1.
Because they wouldn't help uatu, their soul purpose was just to observe, nothing else
bcz s2 and 3 didn't exist at that time
Use your head, their job is to observe not interrupt. Uatu broke the oath
@@carlxd467 bro what do u mean use your head? Maybe you are the one not using yours. Uatu never intervened until ultron discovered his existence. What can you do if you get spotted and the one who spotted you starts beating the living hell out of you? You just observe? nice analogy bud
@reddvortex7554 Wow what a great answer. Dumb a**
I think alot of people confused here, The Eminence were a being can't be killed as Uatu said, meaning it need another watcher to kill another as we seen they were almost dead in the fight. Infinity Ultron was very powerful but seems his powers aren't going to kill all 3 of them leader decided to kill the machine and went for the head. Remember a simple virus deactivated Ultran before? If Ultran were only fighting one by one involving power attacks most likely Ultra would've able to overwhelming them. For example Ultron is water and Watchers are fire but sadly Ultron water doesn't work on them physically but their fire will works on him physically.
In retrospect, A watcher standing up to someone with a full infinity gem set was always fishy. They were always on the lower end of the cosmic hierarchy in Marvel comics, should've known they'd be gassed up so even more absurd ends.
why do my favorite villains always have to get this boss when you unlock them treatment 😭
I know right. Like they missed on the chance to build a very interesting and powerful character and slowly build a story around him and increase the powerscale in a good pace but no they just had to kill ultron after we become interested in a good version of him arriving and to no surprise Peggy gets more powerful somehow.
At this point should just stick to movies cuz they suck ass at making series like how tf you go from making ultron the most op character in the verse to him getting one shot by a watcher 💀 marvel yet again fails to make a series that’s worth watching
It was the eminence the most powerful one he isn't a simple watcher
The woke movement killed what if
Because it makes the all girl team look better.
Bro held off three watchers. Prime him could solo one. I think this is a great showcasing of his power. And I'm sure there are other Ultrons who have came to this ones conclusion. So dont be to sad about this ones death. And stop with this m she u bs. The team won by the skin off their teeth. If the captain didn't pull the words WILL POWER from the depths of their soul. We would have gotten the bad ending. Or I guess you'd call it the good ending. They didn't even "beat" the Eminence. They subdued him. God knows if they didn't land in Supreme Stevens verse. The slaughter would continue.
@@kangconqueror8661 The inifinity stones can make even eternity kneel. Eminence should NOT be able to overpower the stones.
What if had so much potential marvel really fumble the bag
He could have beaten them if he used combat over same beam blasts
Ultron betrayed everyone ?
No he couldn't...they were immune to the power of the stones so yeah
No the eminence overpowered the powers of the stones combined easily...he wasn't even affected by them there is nothing that infinity ultron can do here he is getting destroyed badly
@@kangconqueror8661 I think it was their dimension otherwise in season 1 he did beat watcher with infinity stones power , and even he wasn't that powerful , he could have bought more time by fighting hand to hand
@@kangconqueror8661 also I think he wasn't fighting for kill while in season 1 Ultron was going for kill no matter who is in front of him
Ultron should've got a gender switch, maybe that way he'll be a woman and actually powerful enough 🤡
I'm a little disappointed cus like infinity ultron was wasted just like that. I expected him to go out doing better than that.
They are more powerful
@@wilhempatrickmbassinzie370nah
@@wilhempatrickmbassinzie370yeah but struggle against some wannabe watchers
I got excited for nothing, how much I depressed what if, seriously, they redeem a character. so that he only comes out seconds
I think Ultron Infinity's death has good meme potential
Thank god that girl power crap is over
Mad
Lol
infinity ultron easily defeated weird!
What can Infinity ultron do against the 3 stronger version of watcher?
The friendly watcher was just their student.
Yeah but 3 woman can definitely overpower those watchers do u even have brain bro? Or u just being ignorant?
@@LeonScottKennedy69it gets worse when you realize that it only took Captain Carter to defeat the combined watchers ☕️
@LeonScottKennedy69 They were getting wrecked before taking the watchers oath.
Also those supreme watchers were still holding back.
They had powers to erase every variant from the universe whenever they wanted.
@@Alertchase even if they take the waychers oath still they are not watchers
Uatu was fighting equal against eminence but in s1 he got his ass whooped by ultron
Power scaling is not making any sense
@@LeonScottKennedy69hes basically saying the watchers could’ve ended them before they even met 😂😂😂💀
Just lazy story writing , boring and uninterested characters everything's predictable 😂😂 worst season
My Guy Nerfed
6 stones nerfed
At comic
6 stones can deafet all cosmic entitys
And watchers power below all cosmic entity at comics!
They wasted Strange Supreme and now Infinity Ultron. This show definitely has to renamed as "The Life Story of Captain Carter".
WTH were those three bozos during the original crisis!?!
This is the worst season of what if ...no logical explanation of anything....
Is Peggy a nexus being... I dont get why what if likes her so much.
This what happen when unlocked and use the boss characters in games
I wish we had dialogue between Ultron and the eminence
This how you unplug your Pc when its on fire
Then why is Uatu can puch the Emesence down to the ground and nearly defeated him later. The episode totally wasted Ultron . I wish I could see him fighting together with Uatu.
she is a woman
What a waste of a character
What If ended at season 1 and you cannot tell me otherwise.
No fucking way they got him like that….
We could be seeing cooler what if episodes but we're stuck watching the watchers favorites
The lesbian Captain isn’t going to happen marvel. 😂
A beautifully written character ruined by horrible people and writers……Just another modern MCU project…
mary sue ?
yes, exactly, and there were four of them
couldn't ultron could've snap the Eminence out of existence
It is unknown if snapping away the three Watchers with the Stones could/would work in the 5th dimension. Also, Infinity Ultron number 2 was trying to redeem himself on some level for eliminating all life in his universe.
Ultron would've won if he transitioned to a woman mid-fight. 😁😁
Kindly watch Creature Commandoes its made by James Gunn
I thought the strike was over. What the hell is this??
Damn! This is beyond nonsensical! Why is Peggy in every finale fighting multiverse beings with cosmic powers?!!
This is one of the worst thing coming out of this show!
So if any character at any point say the watcher's oath become a watcher 😂😂😂😂 who wrote this?
What a way to disrespect the unstoppable force that is infinity ultron!
neft utron
Time to rewatch the episodes where Infinity Ultron actually kicked watcher booty
sinister strange and superior iron man would've been better than byrdie and peggy carter (even though byrdie and peggy are both baddies) and it would equalize the exiles better.
Idk about the others but byrdie kinda oneshotted all of the mcu villains as a newborn. But that portal girl and peggy are kinda useless. Storm is cool tho
season 3 really tried hard to be trash, and the most disappointing
So marvels what if is now a captain carter story damn waste time
Bad writing i wanted Ultron to win
At this point just make captain carter one above all already. Who the hell is writing these stories
A lot of infinity ultron fanboys are coping 😂
Yeah, not so surprising after they hype people up with a redemption arc just the previous episode and one shot him immediately.
Ah yes my guy is a type he laugh when a character who is a biggest threat to whole what if ss 2 and now he getting bully like a punching bag ?
Yall rl have a good taste on movie ngl 💀
Also for both in case if yall dont know those shitty ass nerf is because woke
Js look at main chars team fulk of female u already understand no need to be a pro yapper here
Ofc they are, infinity Ultron is a lot cooler character than that dumb peggy carter
And a peggy carter simp who literally is a tier 1 level character laughing like he made a cool joke
Like that ? Really bruh ????
Man infinity Ultron was the King of kings and you eradicated my homeboy like that 😢😢😢. Gtfo man.
But the watchers r even more powerful, they r gods on another level, so yea
Yea sure kriso. Tell me how did the watcher in S1 beat Infinity Ultron?
@@Matias.1.2.3 these 3 are more powerful