Nah Eminem was also on his way. Also this video lied, he didn't get his record deal from the rap Olympics. He got it after someone at the show asked him for a CD then took it to Dr dre.
He was not salty. That’s cap. I know him and I was there. He did not yell in Eminem face. Whoever has the footage won’t release it because it will show the real. It was rigged for for the team with Eminem and Juice to win. They won everywhere they went until LA.
@@davep5283 that footage is not out there anywhere. You can’t hear anything that otherwise says. Look up the elements documentary. Look up anything with otherwise battling in it. You see the way the kids battled today is a built on how he did it. And if that footage is out there, there’s no sound attached to it. and if it is link it or I’m calling you on that one!
Sometimes having talent doesn't guarantee your success. It takes consistency, dedication and discipline plus so much more to be the top and stay there.
Talent means understanding and persuing interest. You see any top artist or performer they replicate all their actions continuesly. In order to gain the knowlegde needed. Its like Reading the same book 1000 times you understand it in different ways than the first 10.
Right. This comments way under rated. Should be top. Every1 saying he lost the battle but won the war. Which is true But if u want it, u gotta but the work in..
Otherwize is dedicated enough to have put out 4 AMAZINGLY ARTISTIC PASSIONATE GRIMY WITTY GOOFY NON-GANG BANGING ALBUMS! He was w/ Project Blowed, a collective of conscious activists who's lyrics don't debase or diss & i think are on a higher level than all of em's combined. what has eminem said that truly HAD A MESSAGE THAT UR MOM WOULD BE PROUD OF?? has helped us grow?? has elevated people to their souls?? eminem is skilled but DEDICATED?? Passionate about power of the mic?? nah
What ....!!!????...you ...say he don't got skills!?!...Aks him how he do,....word up bro be trippin'.....word ....word ... double word my home slice....
I think Dave Chappelle said something similar happened to him. He got 2nd place in a comedy show and he said “what’s the name of the guy who won? Exactly!” 😂
I appreciate your concern and I know what a battle is I know someone of his music but I can't keep up with whatevs, I was wondering if it was new. See I've lost oxygen to my brain, died twice, come out of a coma. A better way to descriibe . I'm losing time again. Alrighty I will be waiting on you, again, til you get over what bothers you.its a sadness there. You just a person sweet cheeks swho cares about me. Don't run bc. I gotta bad knee and I feel like I've . either way you are definitely other.
@@B.J.Carter-ns6yv shit sorry to hear that bro it’s best to do your own research there’s many sides to that story I guess we won’t know what truly happen
That’s how it usually goes in life. Even when you loss, you find a way to succeed. Winning makes one complacent and that drive to better goes out the window.
Brother, that's reality. They have no hate towards each other. The battle rapper even admitted that it might aswell have been eminem that won. And to be honest. The majority including me gives it to Em, but it's close. Eminem does mention him in music to he murdered by with his name "Juice" I never knew he also went by "Otherwise".
Last time I saw Wize was about 8 years ago. He was super drunk on stage at KAOS (where Project Blowed was held, but it wasn't a Blowed event). I hope he's doing okay..
People don’t know about project blowed and how big this group is. I didn’t know of Wize from a battle, I heard of him from a Mums the Word album. Go fig.
@@parker_pubs Nah...like, REALLY drunk. And he wasn't even scheduled to perform...he just rushed the stage ODB style. Anyway, I was simply responding to the question asked in the video 😂
I'm working on a book with Otherwize & working on raising money to get the bootleg audio of the '97 Rap Olympics Otherwize vs. Eminem battle finally released
I’d say very few verses were just off the top of their heads. Sure a lot of the lines Em used ended up in his album. He had these lines written down for sure
Don't fall for that... EVERY rapper has lines they have written as Anchors for freestyling. They will use an old line in-between the ones they freestyle. It gives opportunity to think about what to say next.
@@StecHouse The Blowedians specifically worked to eliminate those fall-back lines as much as possible. That's discussed in Riddlore's book Born a Villain. They would call each other out when they heard those fall-backs.
Actually it was the performance that made Interscope want a tape, he happened to have a few on him at the time just gave it to them like ‘yeah, whatever’ because he didn’t know they were from that label, he got home to a boarded up house, and the day after whilst on his moms couch he got a call to be flown out to LA, a few days later he left for LA, he met Jimmy and Dre, and then they started working after signing the deal, he got a room in a hotel whilst this was happening, he flew back to Detroit and purchased a trailer, his single ‘My Name Is’ blew up, he goes back to LA for interviews etc, Guilty Conscience came out and blew people away, and finally the SSLP, and he still lived in that trailer until that phonecall he had with Paul, he found out he had $2-3M so he bought a house and a white 4x4 for his family
Sorry not it means nothing now but you dre chose em because he knew a white dude with his skill would be undeniable not saying that's the only reason but I know for a fact it had something to do with it dre knew exactly what to do
It's the same for America's got talent or any of the music shows. At the start of that trend of television, it wasn't first place that went far it was number two and 3 that got better deals because first place gets into contract with the television series.
I remember I battled someone one night in LA at a lil hole in the wall club and Otherwize was there battling someone too. I'm cool with him and his cousin Likewize.
Em got signed because they needed something unique in the rap game and at that time a white boy that was actually good was worth more than a black man that was a tad bit better
Slim continued his growth. He slipped back because of his drug problems. But to say that the Slim from 2000 is the same from 2021… that would be insane. If you pay attention to his progress… it’s like nothing else you’ve heard. Every hit was a level up.
That's because losing a battle don't make you lose the war, if rap battles were so much important the greatest rapers would constantly be at each other throats to battle
Imagine expecting one win to make your career, Eminem works hard. To phrase it this way gives people the idea they just need to win a rap battle and that's it.
@@vanessastefanova no you didn’t lmao 🤣 you responded pretty fast 👀🏃♀️. Remember it’s time stamped⏱️. You tried it 🤣. If we’re being 💯 I forgot all about this until I seen your response an hr later in my notifications 🤣. It’s not that major. Just using social media as it’s intended to be used lmao 🤣. Eminem ain’t work harder than anybody in that competition he just was blessed with an opportunity that the others were not and he took full advantage of it. Simple as that 🥱
@@BOOIZMit’s obvious you don’t know what it takes to be successful. Just because you are signed under Dre does not mean you will become successful. It takes a lot of hard work to make it in the industry and em put in a ton of hard work as did Dre. Em was mentored by Dre in case you’re unaware of that fact. Eminem studied a ton to get to the point of being a great lyricist and freestyler. If you think Em just had those skills you are pretty naive and ignorant to the hard work that takes. You sound like the kind of kid to think that everyone that is rich just got lucky and didn’t put any blood, sweat and tears to be where they’re at.
Didn't Otherwize meet again like a couple of years ago and that's why Eminem namedropped him 23 years later on "Discombobulated" and there were reports like last year that Juice wanted to see Eminem again at least
@@lolitsajoke710 Icr bc I ain't heard it in 2 years but that doesn't matter because that's not the important bit anyway. I'm 95% sure it's Verse 2 but just listen to it
That's how the show works...you could be the best, but the other artist has something better than best. It happened to me, I was the oficial drummer of the group. In our 1st recording we agree to bring a pro drummer whitch really didn't mind.And when the recording started, the studio engineer stop the recording and call me in.. I finished recording the album and the pro drummer hated me when it wasn't my fault. That's how the art works !!
Bullshit So what happened to the other white rappers that were considered good? Stop coming up with all these dumbass explanations that don't make sense. Em got a deal because he was damn good and continue to do so
He did lose to MC Juice. These uneducated heads that keep making these fabricated shorts about real situations should be banned. They don't know shit about Real Hip Hop. Thanks for your comment regarding Juice, these kids nowadays lack historical knowledge, Peace
Hometown crowd helped, Otherwize Em may have won who knows. But home field is 💯 fair advantage in sports. Gotta overcome. Em pushed it to overtime but lost period whatever circumstances were. Otherwize gave Em lotta respect in quotes i seen. Apparently they both went thru a dozen MCs to get to eachother. To still have energy and shit to say is krazy enuff. Otherwize even said he left the stage and hid to throw Em off. They felt Em was getting ammo from him being in front of him. Otherwize said it was cowardly but genius 😆. Love the craft. Em was a top tier respected battle MC in the nation. Fact is top battle rapper doesnt equal superstar. Its like the dunk contest winners aren't necessarily superstars. But dunking on mfs in battle was just one tool in Ems toolbox. 2nd in that dunk contest, but soon to b league MVP.
I don't understand why people are clowning him because his life took a different direction. They were in a competition with each other that year ....he beat him in that competition.... They both went their separate ways......END OF STORY
@@jamesmiranda1449 Hater in what? I know more than you ever could dream! Because EM is your rap god, that does not mean it true. . . You hate the fact that EM got outwitted by a street dude, not mainstream... haha chump!
Juice bodied Eminem at Scribble Jam. And it surprised me Em didn’t sign that dude now days! For the fact he is one of the best lyricist to be blessed with a skill of freestyle and no written! #juicechicago #juicemolemen #juicewakeupshow
@@VaultHunter36 you must not know about Juice than! The guy had an album out before Eminem with Molemen the producer. You should listen to it. One of my favorite songs he did it’s called Freestyle or Written! That’s a classic🔥
Bro put some respect on Otherwize. People act like just because Em makes good music he must've been a good battle rapper. He was decent for sure but names like Supernatural, Juice, Otherwize were just better.
He should be thankful Eminem was white; Otherwize he would have lost that rap battle. Let’s be honest. He probably won because they didn’t want a white boy winning. The very same way everyone around Dre told him he was committing career suicide by signing that same white boy. The same reason all these little bitches deny Eminem respect for being a white boy. You have motherfuckers like Benzino and his magazine denying Eminem mics for being white. Like he said to MGK, “my biggest flops are your greatest hits” - the numbers speak for themselves.
@@ionics378 yea but reality is rap is a black business. The number of success white rap artist can be count on 1 hand while there hundreds of black rap artist being created every year.
Just goes to show that not every loss is a loss, and not every win is a win.
Well put
Well technically it was a win 🤷🏾😂
thats some woody harrelson (from white men cant jump) wisdom.
@@hillbillyjimbo1732 got him 😂
All this sh** shows is how racist whites are. Just cause he's with Dre and 50 doesn't mean that racism hasn't largely contributed to his success.
“ I won but at what cost?” - Thanos
Old Marshall M. smoked otherwise... no one can deny.... 500$ lol and ROLLED FOR ROLEX LMFAO FIRE.... LOL 👍 M AN SLIM LOL 😮😊
😂😂
"I am inedible.." -Also Thanos
The win wasnot worth the loss. I wish i knew.
@@S0ull3ssroblox yeah you definitely can’t eat thanos
"Haven't you ever heard of losing a few rap battles to win a war?"
-Sun Tzu
Its called hov and nas
Yep Facts
Sun tzu definitely didn't say rap
@@JakethetaurusYou don't say
@@owanbavis1619😂🤣😂🤣🪦🪦💩🤣🤣
Otherwize won the battle but eminem won the war
Real
❤❤❤❤true
Eminem won the battle but EMINEM is white
@@presidentofplanetThe rapport ?? 😑😓
@@presidentofplanetwho cares
Goes 5 extra rounds... "Bodied Eminem"
We must have different definitions of "Bodied"
Right, and he even made sound like Otherwize had the home advantage
What is "bodied"!?!
@@Astro-y5v "bodied" means decimated, not even close, and completely 1 sided victory... Like in Mortal Kombat- Flawless Victory
"bodied" Eminem's movie produced by himself
@@bartonbella3131decimated is 10% destruction
Goes to show you don't always have to win to be a winner 😊
Eminem lost gold and found diamond
No, Eminem lost gold but went platinum.
@@thercanonlybeonewotblitz7670exactly
Otherwise lost the diamond and went multi platinum after destroying Eminem in Detroit Infamous 8mile rap war.
He found hell
@@robertoarriola-bustamante9169 how the fuck eminem found hell
You win some, you lose some but the one who keeps making the right moves when opportunities come around will never fail
Yeah, and I just ruined yoyr premiumly clean angel-number reversible 131 like-count and likes-number.
@@pokegamer2722yeah.
HE SHOULDNT FEEL JEALOUS, HE SHOULD BE PROUD THAT HES THE GUY THAT MADE EMINEM GO HARD AND BECOME A SUCCESSFUL, HES KIND OF HIS START UP!!!!!
Irl villian arc
Nah Eminem was also on his way. Also this video lied, he didn't get his record deal from the rap Olympics. He got it after someone at the show asked him for a CD then took it to Dr dre.
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Bruh.......Why all caps?
When he first heard the rapper he beat got signed by dre you know he was seething hard asf lmao 🤣
He was not salty. That’s cap. I know him and I was there. He did not yell in Eminem face. Whoever has the footage won’t release it because it will show the real. It was rigged for for the team with Eminem and Juice to win. They won everywhere they went until LA.
Also, Dre heard Eminem for the first time when of Jimmy Iovines people first played Em to Jimmy whom then took it to Dre.
ESP. Being from LA
@@riddlorecvemiprethe footage can be looked up and you can clearly see dude yelling at eminem, so I'm gonna call cap on your comment
@@davep5283 that footage is not out there anywhere. You can’t hear anything that otherwise says. Look up the elements documentary. Look up anything with otherwise battling in it. You see the way the kids battled today is a built on how he did it. And if that footage is out there, there’s no sound attached to it. and if it is link it or I’m calling you on that one!
Em went toe-to-toe with the best and made him work for it. Thats what made him famous
But the best isn't even a name you knew before clip yup logical af cope bro he was marketable
I was into underground artists at the time. I did know who otherwise was😂😂
@@hoodyplzlove the hate, made the best in LA work for that win with 5 extra rounds, that’s amazing. Grow up
This comment is so real
Sometimes having talent doesn't guarantee your success. It takes consistency, dedication and discipline plus so much more to be the top and stay there.
Talent means understanding and persuing interest.
You see any top artist or performer they replicate all their actions continuesly. In order to gain the knowlegde needed.
Its like Reading the same book 1000 times you understand it in different ways than the first 10.
Right. This comments way under rated. Should be top.
Every1 saying he lost the battle but won the war. Which is true
But if u want it, u gotta but the work in..
Moments are Moments,BUT being truly dedicated to a thing is something else.
Otherwize is dedicated enough to have put out 4 AMAZINGLY ARTISTIC PASSIONATE GRIMY WITTY GOOFY NON-GANG BANGING ALBUMS! He was w/ Project Blowed, a collective of conscious activists who's lyrics don't debase or diss & i think are on a higher level than all of em's combined. what has eminem said that truly HAD A MESSAGE THAT UR MOM WOULD BE PROUD OF?? has helped us grow?? has elevated people to their souls?? eminem is skilled but DEDICATED?? Passionate about power of the mic?? nah
I love how this AI narrator voice sounds like some suburban dad wearing a sweater vest.
And argyle socks!!!😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds like the narrator from movie standby me
What ....!!!????...you ...say he don't got skills!?!...Aks him how he do,....word up bro be trippin'.....word ....word ... double word my home slice....
@@scottscheidler9431😂
I think Dave Chappelle said something similar happened to him. He got 2nd place in a comedy show and he said “what’s the name of the guy who won? Exactly!” 😂
He won regardless of losing that battle
What battle?
@@B.J.Carter-ns6yv a battle between him and a rival to see who would be better at rapping if you still don’t understand then I can’t help you
I appreciate your concern and I know what a battle is I know someone of his music but I can't keep up with whatevs, I was wondering if it was new. See I've lost oxygen to my brain, died twice, come out of a coma. A better way to descriibe . I'm losing time again. Alrighty I will be waiting on you, again, til you get over what bothers you.its a sadness there. You just a person sweet cheeks swho cares about me. Don't run bc. I gotta bad knee and I feel like I've . either way you are definitely other.
@@B.J.Carter-ns6yv shit sorry to hear that bro it’s best to do your own research there’s many sides to that story I guess we won’t know what truly happen
@@B.J.Carter-ns6yvI ain't reading all that
Anyways, sorry for what happened or I'm happy for you
Being forced 5 extra rounds is not the definition of ‘bodied’ 😂
That’s how it usually goes in life. Even when you loss, you find a way to succeed. Winning makes one complacent and that drive to better goes out the window.
Would be cool if they got along, years later, and Eminem had him on some of his new tracks, and helped prop is former rival up a bit.
Brother, that's reality. They have no hate towards each other. The battle rapper even admitted that it might aswell have been eminem that won. And to be honest. The majority including me gives it to Em, but it's close.
Eminem does mention him in music to he murdered by with his name "Juice" I never knew he also went by "Otherwise".
@@axlvanaudenhove6564 Juice and Otherwize are 2 different MCs. Both of them defeated Eminem.
Jealousy, becomes bitterness, bitterness becomes rage, and an angry man soon finds salt
wtf are you talking about? "fans said he got salty" .. where did the man say it himself?
That is the path to the darkside
@@platonicbuu7454😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And salt becomes a statue.... just.. standing... there.
Or use salt to make a body stump move on its own. 😂
When the crowd wants you to lose. You are facing a losing battle. It is better to make a statement and fight another day.
A Star is and always be a Star. . EM. We love you!!!
Last time I saw Wize was about 8 years ago. He was super drunk on stage at KAOS (where Project Blowed was held, but it wasn't a Blowed event). I hope he's doing okay..
People don’t know about project blowed and how big this group is. I didn’t know of Wize from a battle, I heard of him from a Mums the Word album. Go fig.
Someone was drunk at a rap show?? *clutches pearls*
@@parker_pubs Nah...like, REALLY drunk. And he wasn't even scheduled to perform...he just rushed the stage ODB style. Anyway, I was simply responding to the question asked in the video 😂
@@dogsandyoga1743 And this year he rocked the stage at Rhymefest LA and he's working on a new album
@@parker_pubs Dope! I still bump those old CVE and Hip Hop Kclan joints all the time. Glad he's still in the mix...
I use to see Otherwize battle back in the days at Elements in Hollywood. 🔥🔥🔥
I'm working on a book with Otherwize & working on raising money to get the bootleg audio of the '97 Rap Olympics Otherwize vs. Eminem battle finally released
Bruh I’m sorry but that shii had me 😂💀😂 He spent the money and got his watch took the same night 😂💀😂💀😂💀😂
They weren’t throwing hands they were throwing disses😂
He didn't say they were throwing hands lol 😂
Their battle was back when rappers battles off the top of their head instead of writig down their verses.
Eminem has admitted that he already had some written that he'd memorize and was common to do
I’d say very few verses were just off the top of their heads. Sure a lot of the lines Em used ended up in his album. He had these lines written down for sure
@@declanmalone1279 Otherwize was freestyling 100%. Eminem was using approx 35% writtens.
Don't fall for that... EVERY rapper has lines they have written as Anchors for freestyling. They will use an old line in-between the ones they freestyle. It gives opportunity to think about what to say next.
@@StecHouse The Blowedians specifically worked to eliminate those fall-back lines as much as possible. That's discussed in Riddlore's book Born a Villain. They would call each other out when they heard those fall-backs.
Actually it was the performance that made Interscope want a tape, he happened to have a few on him at the time just gave it to them like ‘yeah, whatever’ because he didn’t know they were from that label, he got home to a boarded up house, and the day after whilst on his moms couch he got a call to be flown out to LA, a few days later he left for LA, he met Jimmy and Dre, and then they started working after signing the deal, he got a room in a hotel whilst this was happening, he flew back to Detroit and purchased a trailer, his single ‘My Name Is’ blew up, he goes back to LA for interviews etc, Guilty Conscience came out and blew people away, and finally the SSLP, and he still lived in that trailer until that phonecall he had with Paul, he found out he had $2-3M so he bought a house and a white 4x4 for his family
Bad ass AF 💯💯
He told you this?
@@j.s-r2s986 no, I’m an Eminem fan 😂
@@j.s-r2s986public knowledge dumbass
Recheck your sources or maybe ask Em interview time @@DfiftyMusic
tf does he have to be salty about he can confidently say he legit beat the most lyrically gifted rapper of all time
He won 1 time, but Eminem has only gotten better since then. So I highly doubt he'd be able to do it again. He can gloat, but that's about it.
@@marcym.598 the dick riding is crazy you must've picked that up from your mother
@@marcym.598this is some crazy eminem dickriding looollll. Eminem really isnt that good of a rapper
@marcym.598 why's everyone shitting on otherwise? Don't you think he's gotten better too? You salty or sum bruv?
Eminem in 97 is not the same Eminem today. So no.
Bro's name is the definition of "Irony"
I wish Otherwise and Eminem can do a Track now.
the gatekeepers cancelled Otherwize a long time ago
To much competition....
His name was Juice not otherwize
Clearly, Dre found trust in Em.
Sorry not it means nothing now but you dre chose em because he knew a white dude with his skill would be undeniable not saying that's the only reason but I know for a fact it had something to do with it dre knew exactly what to do
Amazing Video When I Watched His Battle , on here 👌👌👌
Eminem already talked about this in his "All Access Europe" (2002) documentary in the interview during the end credits of the film.
So he had to go 5 rds with Em and that's considered "bodied"?
Young, inexperienced Eminem, at that. Eminem today, though......
He lost so yes 💀💀💀
@@adzkebabz7278getting bodied is getting smoked, not losing by the skin of your teeth
@@sccdddf1595 Yeah I was 95% sure but he does exaggerate everything so that's why so yeah he didn't get bodied
@@adzkebabz7278 nice vocabulary you don’t even know what you’re saying
Eminem is by far the best rapper off all time best rapper in the world 🌎 💯 🙌 he's the 🐐 king 👑
Sometimes you have to lose to win 💁🏼♀️ so that’s what Em did
I always learn more when I lose or do wrong too lol 😂😂😂
Well he had to lose otherwise he wouldn't have got that deal😂😂
It's the same for America's got talent or any of the music shows. At the start of that trend of television, it wasn't first place that went far it was number two and 3 that got better deals because first place gets into contract with the television series.
Is this live somewhere? I would love to see the battle.
It's 1997 rap Olympics, too old, idts there would be any clip left of it
@@timepass4783 Too bad. That would be a real gem. Like the 8 mile rap battle but real.
Of course there is but not entierly
Yeah just need to go on the search bar and " 1997 eminem rap Olympics" ( on RUclips )
@@τανγκύΑνκ I already found it. Gave me some massive 8mile vibes
We need the full tapes, let’s go
I remember I battled someone one night in LA at a lil hole in the wall club and Otherwize was there battling someone too. I'm cool with him and his cousin Likewize.
Its call discipline & professional integrity 👏 😊
Never been truest words.
i'm all for that stuff but what does that have to do with the story (other than him blowing the $500 because in reality it's not that important)
Em should get him on a track that would be the real flex
Eminem has never spoken to him after the battle.
Em got signed because they needed something unique in the rap game and at that time a white boy that was actually good was worth more than a black man that was a tad bit better
To make any argument to the contrary would be dishonest.
Token white rappers
There are better white rappers they could’ve picked from
Isn't it amazing how a whiteman is the goat rapper
Who wouldn't be salty??😢
I dont think otherwise is salty, but it is impressive that he was able to beat Eminem in a battle
I love you Eminem....whet is a Rolax...you are singer...you dont have to know the time...i will help you...with a wacth from Action..❤
Slim continued his growth. He slipped back because of his drug problems. But to say that the Slim from 2000 is the same from 2021… that would be insane. If you pay attention to his progress… it’s like nothing else you’ve heard. Every hit was a level up.
Sometimes history ignores you, doesn’t mean you weren’t apart of it
That's because losing a battle don't make you lose the war, if rap battles were so much important the greatest rapers would constantly be at each other throats to battle
Damn, that’s gotta sting…😬😬😬
Grace supercedes talent. Yes, talent takes you that far but that light in you takes you to the sky
M & M is the baddest white boy rapper
with his fierce lyrics very underrated 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Imagine expecting one win to make your career, Eminem works hard. To phrase it this way gives people the idea they just need to win a rap battle and that's it.
Eminem got a call from Dr. Dre soon after this. What hard work? He was guaranteed to be successful under Dr. Dre.
@@BOOIZM I forgot you were there
@@vanessastefanova no you didn’t lmao 🤣 you responded pretty fast 👀🏃♀️. Remember it’s time stamped⏱️. You tried it 🤣. If we’re being 💯 I forgot all about this until I seen your response an hr later in my notifications 🤣. It’s not that major. Just using social media as it’s intended to be used lmao 🤣. Eminem ain’t work harder than anybody in that competition he just was blessed with an opportunity that the others were not and he took full advantage of it. Simple as that 🥱
@@BOOIZM lol maybe I did, trying to get more into YT since insta died. See what the community here's like 👀
@@BOOIZMit’s obvious you don’t know what it takes to be successful. Just because you are signed under Dre does not mean you will become successful. It takes a lot of hard work to make it in the industry and em put in a ton of hard work as did Dre. Em was mentored by Dre in case you’re unaware of that fact. Eminem studied a ton to get to the point of being a great lyricist and freestyler. If you think Em just had those skills you are pretty naive and ignorant to the hard work that takes. You sound like the kind of kid to think that everyone that is rich just got lucky and didn’t put any blood, sweat and tears to be where they’re at.
Lost 1 puny rap battle, but won at life. Em became legend.
That's called confidence and humility 👌
Didn't Otherwize meet again like a couple of years ago and that's why Eminem namedropped him 23 years later on "Discombobulated" and there were reports like last year that Juice wanted to see Eminem again at least
What verse was it?
@@lolitsajoke710 Icr bc I ain't heard it in 2 years but that doesn't matter because that's not the important bit anyway. I'm 95% sure it's Verse 2 but just listen to it
why u callong him juice
Juice and Otherwize are 2 different MCs bruh
That's how the show works...you could be the best, but the other artist has something better than best. It happened to me, I was the oficial drummer of the group. In our 1st recording we agree to bring a pro drummer whitch really didn't mind.And when the recording started, the studio engineer stop the recording and call me in..
I finished recording the album and the pro drummer hated me when it wasn't my fault. That's how the art works !!
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Sometimes you must lose the smaller battles to win the biggest ones
"Rap Olympics"
😂😂😂
There’s a difference between just rapping bars
And making rap songs
A lot of people can sing
But not everyone can produce a song
True
That was the Budweiser line and the first ‘can’t sell 2 copies if made a double album’ line. That was a great battle.
Great Battle rappers are not always the best rappers. It's a whole different skill set. M had both
Eminem had the complexion for the protection!
Yeah, ok. 😒
Salty black people mad cuz white people take their music and make it better.
Bullshit
So what happened to the other white rappers that were considered good?
Stop coming up with all these dumbass explanations that don't make sense. Em got a deal because he was damn good and continue to do so
hahahahhaha that was so good! you rhymed it like a rap! and you brought race into it! oooohhhhh SNAP!!!
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And those racist songs Eminen made before he was famous? I'll bet he didn't tell dre about those
Where's this Otherwise Guy at the moment?
He can still do something productive with his talent... TODAY!!😮😢😢
Otherwize is more of an active MC than Eminem. He's done two shows this year and put out two albums and a dozen singles.
Yeah, no he lost to Jucie… totally wrong guy.
He did lose to MC Juice.
These uneducated heads that keep making these fabricated shorts about real situations should be banned. They don't know shit about Real Hip Hop. Thanks for your comment regarding Juice, these kids nowadays lack historical knowledge, Peace
yeah i was confused for a bit because i’m certain it was juice too
YEA WHEN HE DIDNT SAY MC JUICE ....I WAS ALL CONFUSED 😂😂
Juice world is juice kid?
"The same Marshall Bruce in that battle who lost to Juice"
Discombobulated, MTBMB Side B
They just aint listening lol
This guy gets alot of facts Rong.
That's not how Dre found out about em, he found his demo tape on the floor, at a house party. 💯
Hometown crowd helped, Otherwize Em may have won who knows. But home field is 💯 fair advantage in sports. Gotta overcome. Em pushed it to overtime but lost period whatever circumstances were.
Otherwize gave Em lotta respect in quotes i seen. Apparently they both went thru a dozen MCs to get to eachother. To still have energy and shit to say is krazy enuff. Otherwize even said he left the stage and hid to throw Em off. They felt Em was getting ammo from him being in front of him. Otherwize said it was cowardly but genius 😆. Love the craft.
Em was a top tier respected battle MC in the nation. Fact is top battle rapper doesnt equal superstar. Its like the dunk contest winners aren't necessarily superstars. But dunking on mfs in battle was just one tool in Ems toolbox. 2nd in that dunk contest, but soon to b league MVP.
Marshall is the dopest rapper of all time and always will be his battles got him here n he’s here for life ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🔐 king 👑 of rap ❤
i DISAGREE
Play the contest please would luv to hear it 🙏
I don't understand why people are clowning him because his life took a different direction. They were in a competition with each other that year ....he beat him in that competition.... They both went their separate ways......END OF STORY
Whyte privige!
well said bro bless you
@@NinerEmpire5xWhite privilege? He lost a rap battle.
So a black Dre gave him white privilege?
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True talk
@@NinerEmpire5x😂😂😂 that makes no since..😂😂
That’s why he’s the GOAT! THE GOAT!!!!
2PAC Goat Otherwize Em would have won!
@@anthonyjones1316hater... I like Eminem's songs more. No disrespect, just my opinion.
Em is the GOAT!!! Check out my mix of him (& other artists) ruclips.net/p/PLONE5VsjyDBTkLsFsdNLdv80KiuPPHBqy&feature=shared
@@jamesmiranda1449 Hater in what? I know more than you ever could dream! Because EM is your rap god, that does not mean it true. . . You hate the fact that EM got outwitted by a street dude, not mainstream... haha chump!
Best white rapper maybe,, GOAT never. Google who MM says is the best. If he knows he's not the best why do you not believe your idol.
If i was em i wouldve signed him
"now everybody from the 3 1 3 put ur mf hands up and follow me"
God had bigger plans for Eminem , bigger than those 500$
Juice bodied Eminem at Scribble Jam. And it surprised me Em didn’t sign that dude now days! For the fact he is one of the best lyricist to be blessed with a skill of freestyle and no written!
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Factz
being a good rapper and being a good artist are two completely different things.
@@VaultHunter36 you must not know about Juice than! The guy had an album out before Eminem with Molemen the producer. You should listen to it. One of my favorite songs he did it’s called Freestyle or Written! That’s a classic🔥
@@jdportwerks6795 I'll check it out.
Bro put some respect on Otherwize. People act like just because Em makes good music he must've been a good battle rapper. He was decent for sure but names like Supernatural, Juice, Otherwize were just better.
Mcjuice was the goat
Otherwise is the only person that can complain about Eminem being white.
He should be thankful Eminem was white; Otherwize he would have lost that rap battle.
Let’s be honest. He probably won because they didn’t want a white boy winning. The very same way everyone around Dre told him he was committing career suicide by signing that same white boy.
The same reason all these little bitches deny Eminem respect for being a white boy. You have motherfuckers like Benzino and his magazine denying Eminem mics for being white.
Like he said to MGK, “my biggest flops are your greatest hits” - the numbers speak for themselves.
Uhhhhh why?
@@sggsdsgdgsd6897 in his situation I'd definitely see anyone not white to blame Eminem being white for his rise to fame even tho he lost the battle
Oh okay misunderstood you @@ionics378
@@ionics378 yea but reality is rap is a black business. The number of success white rap artist can be count on 1 hand while there hundreds of black rap artist being created every year.
Otherwize probably got out worked over time. If he could REALLY beat Em at a battle in 1997 then he could have had a career.
Stuff happens
I’m glad Eminem just walked away . Otherwise otherwize would have probably started a fight.
I see what you did there
@@aparent 😄
NOBODY goes toe to toe with HarryMack 🐐 🔥
Old Otherwize: " When i was in my prime, i once had a "rap battle" with Sir Eminem, and i Beat him in the rap olympics"
Child: " suuuuuure grandpa"
It may has been recorded.
I think it was MC Juice not “otherwize”
@@Sicarius13 Juice won Scribble Jam. Otherwize won the Rap Olympics. Different events. Em took 2 Ls.
Otherwize is the goat
reel
Shows us that temporary defeats does not mean failure
We, as black people, don't help one another. Otherwise, should have had a record deal from Dre
Otherwize auditioned with Dre for Chronic 2001. Dre wanted him to act gangster, and Otherwize wouldn't do it.
Lost in one fight, but won the whole war.
I turn a loss to a lesson
I turn a curse to a gift and a blessin'
Its about who you can sell. The best rappers are ghostwriters. Rappers are the performers.
Well, sometimes the scoreboard doesn’t account for how well you played the game. Only points.
Career gone reduced to atoms 😂
Man......black forest never disappeared. Otherwize has put out numerous classic tracks. Yall just slept.
Sometime you never know the real story behind the music industry..people can disappear and forgetten so easily
There are alot of lessons to learn from this short story.
Everyone things it’s all about rap skills. But you just need the right connection. Every rapper is nothing without the producers 😇
I would love to see another battle between them now.
Trust me otherwise Black Forest Los Angeles legend is a beast a fkn beast
This just proves no matter how much good you are in something if you don't have support and luck you won't make it.
That's great. Karma got him and Eminem came out on top
Every time he said "Otherwize" I thought he was moving on to a better point