Everything You Know About NUTRITION Is WRONG! Here’s Why | Herman Pontzer

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  • Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
  • How did your body respond to the last carb heavy dinner you had? Does eating a high calorie meal affect you worse than a lower calorie, higher carb meal? Herman Pontzer, an evolutionary biologist, did a research study on a hunter gatherer community called Hazda in Tanzania, to learn about energy expenditure.
    What he’s discovered flips everything you thought you knew about calories and carbs upside down. He’s joining Tom to expose why the data shows that carbs in a calorie controlled environment do not matter. Meaning, it is possible to theoretically go on a Twinkie diet (please don’t) and still lose weight when calories are adhered to. Herman is using data to push back on how calories are burned and how they signal your brain to control your weight.
    Order Herman Pontzer’s book, Burn: New Research Blows the Lid Off How We Really Burn Calories, Lose Weight, and Stay Healthy : www.amazon.com/Burn-Research-...
    Also check out the Hazda Fund (www.hadzafund.org/about) to learn more about the Hazda culture
    SHOW NOTES:
    0:00 | Introduction to Herman Pontzer
    1:40 | The Calorie Debate
    6:14 | How We Burn Energy
    12:09 | Obesity Starts In The Brain
    14:43 | Hypothalamus Function
    19:25 | Brain Response to Calories
    29:06 | Food Calorie Signaling
    32:36 | Optimal Lifestyle
    34:53 | Processed Food Brain Hack
    38:31 | Why Sugar Is A Problem
    42:22 | Hi Carb Diet Weight Loss
    45:24 | Fantasy Diet Study
    QUOTES:
    “The problem is that when we begin to say, oh, that must have been something in the food that you ate, rather than, oh, it's something in your individual response to that extra energy.” [21:33]
    “It really does come down to the calories or what determines the weight change or maintenance, not the carb level.” [24:13]
    “The argument is, is this more in the weeds? Is it fat cells and pancreas? Or is it brain cells and sensing?” [32:29]
    “It is my job to keep eyes open and look across cultures and look across human experiences and see that diversity and understand all of it is pretty normal. That the universe of normal for humans is pretty darn broad.” [33:11]
    “Sugar is a fructose molecule and a glucose molecule stuck together, and when it gets into your blood, that's what it is.” [38:38]
    Follow Herman Pontzer:
    Website: sites.duke.edu/pontzerlab/peo...
    Twitter: / hermanpontzer
    Instagram: / hpontzer
    Facebook: / herman.pontzer

Комментарии • 901

  • @TomBilyeu
    @TomBilyeu  2 года назад +32

    What is the biggest ‘nutrition myth’ you recently discovered wasn’t true?

    • @Rainbow2023
      @Rainbow2023 2 года назад +2

      👍👍

    • @philippegns
      @philippegns 2 года назад +35

      Salt and fat are wrong for you

    • @infinitemonty7753
      @infinitemonty7753 2 года назад +35

      That vegetable oils (seed oils) are much healthier than animal fats.

    • @inz_uzi
      @inz_uzi 2 года назад +3

      @colleenallmyfriends What is this 'natural sodium' and what's the difference between this 'natural sodium' and sodium in salt?

    • @inz_uzi
      @inz_uzi 2 года назад +11

      @colleenallmyfriends Sodium is sodium. It's a chemical element, like oxygen or carbon, and cannot contain anything.

  • @kibblelaura8920
    @kibblelaura8920 2 года назад +176

    I was 310 pounds when I found dr.Fung, dr. berg, dr. ekberg, and all the podcast channels and since then lost 40 lbs in 2 months. I'm in my 30s and my weight has gone up and up with no limit before learning about fasting and keto. Just got done with my 3 day fast and atm feeling great and energized to keep going. I cut almost all non fiber carbs and sugar out of my diet and have been eating medium protein and high fat. My old habits of eating junk keeps on enticing me when I do my fasts but when I eat my HFLC meals those habit thoughts just disappear which is great! It just feels great that I'm equipped with information and knowledge of what my body needs and what it doesn't need. This podcast was incredibly misleading in terms of understanding the psychology of weight loss and to the people that actually need real information. I know what works for me and will continue to lose weight until I hit my goal of 160 lbs! Good luck everyone and hope you have a great day!

    • @michaelmomot9470
      @michaelmomot9470 2 года назад +4

      Congrats Laura. I also found Dr Berg and lost 20 lbs and feel amazing. I agree with your assessment, but appreciate getting the opportunity to hear the details behind the calorie is a calorie sound byte. There are many qualifiers in the view that the interviewee conceded. Once you consider all the qualifiers, a calorie isn’t a calorie after all. All the best in your continued journey to better health.

    • @dort5436
      @dort5436 2 года назад +3

      I'm glad to hear of your success. I fast weekly for 48 to 72 hours. Dr. Fung and Dr. Boz changed my life to healthy and not hungry.

    • @NYManhattan21
      @NYManhattan21 2 года назад +2

      congrats @Kibble Laura, what you describe is awesome and understanding the psychology really is the way to reach your weight goal! I experience the same every day

    • @alextopalov6393
      @alextopalov6393 2 года назад +11

      Same boat here, lost 80 pounds on the ketogenic diet and do time restricted feeding 16:8 now. 3 years later I still eat low carb and just focus on protein and fats (mostly protein, because I workout a lot). As much as I like health theory this was one of the least informative podcasts that muddies the water. Remember your body is not a calorimeter, complex hormonal processes are at play and while you cannot eat like there is no tomorrow every day and expect lose weight - eating good highly satiating food (aka fat and protein) will naturally restrict the amount of energy.

    • @opheliepit
      @opheliepit 2 года назад

      Wow, thanks for inspiring me!

  • @gerardklauner902
    @gerardklauner902 2 года назад +114

    If I eat carbs, I am always hungry. I have "cravings" 2 or 3 hours after my meal. If I don't eat carbs (proteins and fat instead), I can easily skip a meal. So even if a calorie is a calorie, Keto makes me eat fewer calories and lose weight.

    • @qbatmobile
      @qbatmobile 2 года назад +4

      This comment.

    • @3ddon602
      @3ddon602 2 года назад +3

      That’s how I feel

    • @rajeshroshan2877
      @rajeshroshan2877 2 года назад +2

      I am in complete agreement with you. I have observed the same thing.

    • @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
      @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel 2 года назад +1

      same, but with added high fiber. I just feel better with more fiber

    • @matthewkaras7722
      @matthewkaras7722 2 года назад +5

      What are "carbs" to you? There's a difference between jelly beans and black beans. And eating snacks are fine if they're fruits and vegetables. If what you eat is calorie dilute you can eat more and fill your belly.

  • @robertryan1663
    @robertryan1663 2 года назад +223

    This agrees with my personal experience on diet. Eating a low carbohydrate diet give me appetite control that I can't get otherwise. It allows me to eat less calories without hunger. This may not be Universal but it's certainly the case for me.

    • @Healthify360
      @Healthify360 2 года назад +16

      Same for me. First time I can control my weight without being hungry all the time.

    • @marionmaierphilonatura
      @marionmaierphilonatura 2 года назад +11

      The same to me here, and I practise OMAD (one meal a day, 23 hours of fasting and 1 hour of eating window when I really get saturated, thus that I think I have to skip the next day eating. 😊)

    • @billyboyd1199
      @billyboyd1199 2 года назад +2

      Same here. Agreed

    • @cosmickate4947
      @cosmickate4947 2 года назад +14

      I think it's the case with most people. I've been watching a sugar addict lose weight over the past year and she admits it's extremely hard...higher proteins and fats suppress the appetite without doubt

    • @makaisenki
      @makaisenki 2 года назад +1

      You don't necessarily need to eat less calories with low carb. Higher protein consumption and higher metabolism can improve metabolic rate and protein is a bad ratio for calories in versus calories as energy

  • @GreyBeard_Fit
    @GreyBeard_Fit 2 года назад +102

    Dr. Jason Fung is the expert on this topic in my opinion.
    I’ll leave it at that.

    • @AyeshaMuzaffar
      @AyeshaMuzaffar 2 года назад +6

      yeah...hands down no one beats Dr Fung in this field...he has mastered it!

    • @RosemarieFit
      @RosemarieFit 2 года назад +4

      Dr. Fung is the man!! REAL clinical data

    • @delboy9617
      @delboy9617 2 года назад +2

      Iv'e just read a book by Jason Fung MD who starts off the book saying that calories in versus calories out does not work and that anyone who believes that this is the method to lose weight are dead wrong. He advocates a low carb diet because it reduces insulin. He says that the cause of obesity is Hormonal rather than a calorie inbalance. Lots of people have bought this book and he is often cited on weight loss forums etc.
      This is clearly wrong though. A few years ago I lost 4 stone and my diet was high in carbs, but I counted my calories and made sure I was below my maintenance level. Also, there has been numerous studies that have been done where people were put on low carb diets and high carb diets and they lost the same amount of weight. This is a fact, its rule 1 of thermogenesis. Jason Fung has been proven wrong by many experts who have actually conducted stuides to show evidence that calories in vs calories out is the most important thing.

    • @curtislavoie2242
      @curtislavoie2242 2 года назад +1

      @@delboy9617 Can you provide a link to these studies?

    • @UndertheNeedle282
      @UndertheNeedle282 2 года назад +1

      @@delboy9617 if I'm not mistaken, those studies were 100g of carbs or more... not keto at 25g or less so no, it hasn't been studied.

  • @annmarieknapp
    @annmarieknapp 2 года назад +22

    Intermittent fasting has been my holy grail for weight loss and getting my hunger under control. Am now 5'7.25" and down to 133lbs after years of weight loss struggles. In 2016 I was 200 lbs. Thin most of my life, but my mother's death and several traumatic events led to me eating my emotions and a ton of empty calories. I could never say no to chocolate. Now I eat very small amounts of chocolate and after my 8 hour window I stop eating. I tried keto before this, which worked, but I was sick of eating meat and no carbs. Lost weight, but only to a point. Was at a normal weight, but at least 20 to 25 more lbs than I am now.

  • @brandonolivera8486
    @brandonolivera8486 2 года назад +126

    He concedes that lower carb helps in a diabetic state and I mean, basically everyone is becoming diabetic now. So I'm not convinced yet about high carb and low carb being equal. Also, for weight loss, it's just so much easier doing low carb because the foods are so satiating. It's very hard to overeat vs trying to lose weight eating carbs because you're starving all the time and it's very hard to sustain.

    • @ElectricBikeLaboratory
      @ElectricBikeLaboratory 2 года назад +1

      Well said

    • @marcelclover6650
      @marcelclover6650 2 года назад

      u

    • @jameshenderson8615
      @jameshenderson8615 2 года назад +5

      Perhaps in theory, but studies with a side-by-side comparison of low carb and low-fat diets perform about the same over the long term.

    • @southstar87
      @southstar87 2 года назад

      Good point

    • @mitsealb3609
      @mitsealb3609 2 года назад +4

      I wonder how many diabetic or pre-diabetic people eat significantly too many calories?

  • @wilsonsclips_
    @wilsonsclips_ 2 года назад +65

    There’s all these smart weight loss gurus out here and there are contradictory opinions. I really want to see science around “are some peoples genetics better suited for high carb, some are suited better for high fat, some are suited better for high protein and some are all rounders”. I feel like this must be a missing part and we need to find which one works for us and therefore you can never have one style that works for everyone

    • @NatashaVincent
      @NatashaVincent 2 года назад +11

      Agreed. Looking forward to the conversation finally shifting from "weight loss" to "body composition." Being skinny fat is not healthy either

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 2 года назад

      I wonder about metabolic syndrome

    • @anthonygriffin9275
      @anthonygriffin9275 2 года назад +3

      Saying a calorie is just a calorie is like saying a Yugo is the equivalent of a Mercedes!!!

    • @TheDrKurtz
      @TheDrKurtz 2 года назад +3

      Look up the p /e diet. It's all about protein to energy ratio. Protein is the necessity, and the energy source can be fat or carbs, but healthy fats satiate you longer, and white carbs don't. Likely, only Complex veggie carbs and some low sugar fruits, in collaboration with butters, tallow and lard and healthy oils, olive, coconut, avocado. And healthy meat fats on non processed meats

    • @cosmickate4947
      @cosmickate4947 2 года назад +1

      @@anthonygriffin9275 haha...many years ago I had a Yugo Tempo, totally agree

  • @freesizes4081
    @freesizes4081 2 года назад +18

    I truly believe you have to interview Dr Ekberg, with your unique way of getting an interview! His videos are life changing! #DrEkberg

  • @LisaCapron
    @LisaCapron 2 года назад +36

    Oh wait… now he’s admitting that for those who have a deranged metabolism none of what he says works. Nice. I wonder if he puts that warning on his books?

    • @PNFLnetwork
      @PNFLnetwork 2 года назад +12

      Exactly, this doctor is a joke. If you are perfectly healthy you can eat a high carb diet, maintain proper calories. Wow, who guessed that. If you are broken and your system is a mess, than sure a low carb/high fat diet works better. This doctor told us nothing for 49 minutes.

    • @KJB0001
      @KJB0001 2 года назад

      Lisa, his science is based on a normal operating human body, not a type 2 diabetic shit-show where all bets are off.

    • @roqonu
      @roqonu 2 года назад +1

      His comment was wrong...from the 1940s until the 90s the Duke rice diet clinic was reversing t2 diabetes wtih a diet that was 95% refined carbs...mostly white rice.

  • @chrisallen5753
    @chrisallen5753 2 года назад +39

    For people who have metabolic syndrome, it truly is about carbs and insulin. End of story.

    • @michelleguerrero2848
      @michelleguerrero2848 2 года назад +2

      To be able to actually stick to eating the things that are good for you with out the feeling of hunger and being deprived. I dieted few times in my life actually because I felt so absolutely terrible when I came last 30 to 40 pounds each time and could not sustain the calorie count feeling all kinds of carbs. Now I have come to know the carb and the bad microbio him in the gut actually what make us crave the sugar and more food without ever getting full. I have been keto for almost 4 years have never gained weight back but been stalled for over a year and a half I would still like to lose approximately 30 pounds. I feel better eating this way than anything in my whole life and it has enabled me to have total confidence in myself now of how I feel and how I look.

    • @danytalksmusic
      @danytalksmusic 2 года назад +3

      Which is critical when 80% of people are metabolically dysfunctional!

  • @richarddickson7522
    @richarddickson7522 2 года назад +59

    Respectfully, I disagree with his premise. I would love to eat carbs such as sugars and starches daily. But what I've discovered in my body is they are bloating and cause me to gain weight. Whereas I can lose weight quickly with a fat, oil, nut, cruciferous/leafy vegetable, protein based diet. Maybe a calorie is a calorie is a calorie applies to some or many people, but not all.

    • @rgee5176
      @rgee5176 2 года назад +2

      I'm with you. I'm 4 yrs IF 20/4 & keto. Carbs & sugar just make me hungry, so I have to avoid.

    • @Michael-4
      @Michael-4 2 года назад +2

      What's happening in most cases is focusing on carbs, in turn, naturally leads to calorie deficit. Calorie counting usually means low fat, because of the calories, but fat (and protein) make you feel satisfied and if you are eating real food on low carb, not shakes, BP coffees or chugging olive oil, you'll have a very hard time overeating.

    • @rajeshroshan2877
      @rajeshroshan2877 2 года назад +2

      I agree with you. Each of us knows our bodies better than anyone else. I have observed that carbohydrates make me hungrier, more tired and fatter, whereas fat, meat and vegetables make me less hungry, less bloated, less fat and more energetic.

    • @Percyfaith7
      @Percyfaith7 2 года назад

      I agree!

    • @Omguserr
      @Omguserr 2 года назад

      I remember there was a study which showed that only 20% of population are good with high carbs diet the rest are much better off with protein/fat. So you have to find your food and one more thing is you have to watch the quality of calories because if the food is high quality you process it much and the process of processing by itself burns more calories if the food is junk usually it just get stored as fat to be dealt with at later times when you don't have nothing else to get your energy from.

  • @AhmetKaan
    @AhmetKaan 2 года назад +53

    *Pain of regret is much worse than the pain of discipline...*

  • @cameronembers
    @cameronembers 2 года назад +10

    My favorite new RUclips innovation, FYI, is the little topic meter you built at the bottom. Best video innovation in the last 5 years.

  • @LisaCapron
    @LisaCapron 2 года назад +189

    I’d love to see a discussion between this guy and Dr Fung. My guess is that this guy keeps his head in the lab and Fung is a clinician who is looking at actual results.

    • @sayss4611
      @sayss4611 2 года назад +30

      Agreed, insulin is significant in weightloss

    • @ibrahimrodriguez3995
      @ibrahimrodriguez3995 2 года назад +3

      @@sayss4611 not it isn't.

    • @RUDEGAMINGNATION
      @RUDEGAMINGNATION 2 года назад +19

      @@ibrahimrodriguez3995 yes it is, insulin is the hormone responsible for fat storage

    • @ibrahimrodriguez3995
      @ibrahimrodriguez3995 2 года назад +8

      @@RUDEGAMINGNATION yada, yada, yada, you're talking to someone that's lost 90lbs while eating donuts, explain that to me.

    • @DushaneBre
      @DushaneBre 2 года назад +5

      @@ibrahimrodriguez3995 nobody saying it's not possible, the point is the weight is just one symptom of unhealthy food, there are many more and you aren't affecting them at all and you should.

  • @BigPictureYT
    @BigPictureYT 2 года назад +30

    I'm disappointed. I thought that Herman would teach me how to get lean. His whole argument is that "if you stick to the diet" you can lose just as much weight eating a high carb diet as you can eating a high fat diet. Anyone who has struggled with obesity knows that a low fat diet makes you cold and ravenous, and that you eventually binge and gain back all of the fat that you lost. Anyone who has become keto adapted knows that it is much easier to reduce your caloric intake on a high fat diet because you are not nearly as hungry. I did learn that protein and fiber send satiety signals to the brain, which is scientific evidence that keto/paleo is a good way to go.

    • @whatsapp0576
      @whatsapp0576 2 года назад

      ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️✉️✉️📧📩🗳️

    • @doddsalfa
      @doddsalfa 2 года назад +1

      Have you experience in plant based diet?i ask because when I started pbd I did lose 30 kg in 7 months eating 4 meals a day ,first time in my obese life I could lose weight without effort but yes I was cold most of the time

    • @shawnsanborn2057
      @shawnsanborn2057 2 года назад +8

      Such a incredibly complicated subject. My head spins at all the conflicting information. So i kept it as simple as possible. I started eating less, no sugar, moderate excercise. No junk food. I lost 34 lbs in six months. No dieting, no supplements. Just eating less and hour of walking per day.

    • @doddsalfa
      @doddsalfa 2 года назад +3

      @@shawnsanborn2057 sounds like the right way

    • @arthurfonzarelli9828
      @arthurfonzarelli9828 2 года назад

      I've lost tons of weight numerous times in my life eating more less garbage. I would say I'm more unhappy when I do low carb or no carb. It's all about discipline which isn't that hard

  • @DreamGirl650
    @DreamGirl650 2 года назад +10

    Pretty much all of us have “broken responses” due to SAD therefore carb restriction is essential for most modern humans on Western diets.

  • @grantbaker7062
    @grantbaker7062 2 года назад +20

    My #1 rule is avoiding anything with added sugars, which straight away cuts out about 90% of processed foods from my diet, and honestly I don't miss them, I enjoy cooking my own meals from base ingredients and always look forward to what I eat.

  • @LisaCapron
    @LisaCapron 2 года назад +30

    He keeps saying “if you stuck to the diet it worked.” There’s no analysis here of which group had better compliance.

  • @DemetriPanici
    @DemetriPanici 2 года назад +13

    I feel like the more time goes on the more info on this that I was just completely unaware of!

  • @ocmetals4675
    @ocmetals4675 2 года назад +25

    I think this guy just made me realize how much we don't actually know about the human body. You can't use a one size fits all, there too many variables. Fortunately I found Dr. Fung and I've lost 20 lbs. It's the only thing that has worked consistently for me.

    • @whatsapp0576
      @whatsapp0576 2 года назад

      ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️✉️✉️📧📩🗳️

    • @genta88able
      @genta88able 7 месяцев назад

      Can you please elaborate, what the Fung are you talking about

    • @ocmetals4675
      @ocmetals4675 7 месяцев назад

      @@genta88able Oh sorry. Yeah, Dr. Jason Fung. He is on RUclips. He is really good at explaining why Intermittent fasting works.

  • @peaklabs
    @peaklabs 2 года назад +29

    Excellent conversation, guys. Cutting out processed foods would be such a big win for some many people, and positively impact our nation as a whole.

    • @jenshark4
      @jenshark4 Год назад

      Yes it’s all about WHAT we eat. We need to eat foods that our bodies can pull nutrients from. i.e. nutrient dense foods. When we eat empty calories or bodies have nothing to use to sustain our energy. So as the old saying goes “past the lips, in the hips” for junk foods.

  • @miriammaru
    @miriammaru 2 года назад +11

    Whenever I ingest sugar on a daily basis I literally get sick, anyone experiencing this too?

    • @mrmalone28
      @mrmalone28 2 года назад +3

      I have more joint pain for sure…

    • @miriammaru
      @miriammaru 2 года назад

      @@mrmalone28 oh no! Try to avoid it by all means.

    • @Paulijah_
      @Paulijah_ 2 года назад

      So if you eat fruit daily you get sick?

    • @morriscim6887
      @morriscim6887 2 года назад +1

      @@miriammaru For me, whenever I take fries or refined carbs such as table sugar and wheat, I just feel sluggish and sleepy about half an hour after - like some sort of brain fog. However, the story is different when I eat "organic" carbs such as sweet potatoes or arrowroots.

    • @miriammaru
      @miriammaru 2 года назад +1

      @@morriscim6887 I understand you totally! Truly our bodies speak to us each minute! Listening to it can save us from a lot!!

  • @Biohackthefat
    @Biohackthefat 2 года назад +16

    It’s about Insulin, Gherlin, leptin and Glucagon!!!

  • @newstart6107
    @newstart6107 2 года назад +35

    I can't believe I just spent nearly an hour of my life to hear that weightloss depends on how many calories you eat!
    I agree - by it all depends on what works for you and what keeps you satiated.
    He did say that amongst a load of other jargon which is quite honestly irrelevant.
    Well irrelevant to me anyway.
    That could have been said in less than 5 minutes.
    Stay away from processed foods as much as you can and don't eat more calories than you need in the way that feels most comfortable to you.
    The End 😁

    • @Omguserr
      @Omguserr 2 года назад +1

      And include fasting in your routine

    • @ydonnay3145
      @ydonnay3145 2 года назад

      Thank you for sharing your summary, you saved me 13 minutes.

    • @uelude
      @uelude 2 года назад +1

      Yeah this guy isn't helping anyone.
      If you're eating more carbs at the expense of protein then that's got fail written all over it.

  • @jeffreyrh
    @jeffreyrh 2 года назад +7

    He needs to debate Jason Fung

  • @gurudra
    @gurudra 2 года назад +23

    The correct food can heal the body, mind and the soul🙏🌿🌺

  • @WayneKaminsky
    @WayneKaminsky 2 года назад +11

    Nice feedback... its nice to put the carb debate to bed (in a way... i.e. we need to discuss QUALITY of food)
    But I feel Herman isn't getting to the point about why processed food is bad.
    So here goes:
    Processed food has NOT got the vitamins, bioactive compounds, fibre, antioxidants, inflammation-reducing fats, omega, amino acids (these processed ingredients lack micronutrients: white sugar, white flour, emulsifier, colourants, artificial colours) etc.
    Surely if your body is not getting the nutrients it needs you are not going to feel satiated despite the calories balance... so the twinkie diet or wine-gum diet can still cause fatty liver disease (NAFLD), you won't grow muscle and you won't look after your gut and you won't promote autophagy... and your sleep is likely to be messed up.
    Surely micronutrients have something to do with feeling full... we know they have everything to do with feeling healthy and operating optimally (i.e. focused thinking and enough energy to perform with your thinking).

    • @shawnsanborn2057
      @shawnsanborn2057 2 года назад

      Makes perfect sense. I do try and avoid processed foods. I kept it as simple as possible. I started eating less. I walk an hour per day. Thats it. I lost 34 lbs in six months.

  • @marim7784
    @marim7784 2 года назад +10

    However when I cut carbs my waist size goes down and my double chin is gone period even if there is no change on the scale. Low-carb is the way to go.

    • @t1mmytiger
      @t1mmytiger 2 года назад

      That’s water weight. Let me guess, it returns soon after?

    • @bradturner7678
      @bradturner7678 Год назад

      Could also be inflimation and gas from a certain carb source.

  • @busbystandup1337
    @busbystandup1337 2 года назад +24

    Before agriculture, humans only got carbs during the warmer months (fruits). So it makes sense that humans evolved to store fat (insulin response) in the warmer months. Then, during cold months, our metabolisms switch to burn fat because carbs aren't available.... repeating this cycle every year. If we eat sugar and other carbs all year long, our bodies will always think it's fat-storing season

    • @monicabostan1081
      @monicabostan1081 2 года назад +4

      That actually makes sense 100% thank you🥰

    • @LetTheWritersWrite
      @LetTheWritersWrite 2 года назад +1

      This is just some made up quasi evolutionist theory you just typed out. Low carb diets are bad on the liver because proteins should be spared for building muscle. Using proteins as fuel is a last resort mechanism and it's bad on the liver because it creates amonia as a by-product.

    • @busbystandup1337
      @busbystandup1337 2 года назад +2

      @@LetTheWritersWrite Perhaps you should read my post again... I don't mention protein at all. But even if I did, I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion on protein consumption. But that's fine... the world would be a pretty boring place if everyone had the same opinions

    • @TehKaiser
      @TehKaiser 2 года назад

      @@LetTheWritersWrite Insulin promotes lipogenesis and that lipid formed is palmitate.
      No surprise that even before modern times, diabetes was observed in grain-based societies like Egypt and ancient Chinese.

    • @makaisenki
      @makaisenki 2 года назад +3

      @@LetTheWritersWrite I'll listen to a doctor with 20 years of clinical experience that says that keto improves liver function and that back in the 70s 3 dialysis clinics served all of Tenesee. Now there are hundreds. Now there's 120 with a mere doubling of population. But you look up and you can find in the 1960s food companies paid off scientists to gloss over sugar and demonize fats.
      The problem is that nutritional science is abysmal at best. The people who tend to eat meat on food surveys tend to be more likely to smoke and drink because of a healthy user bias, and the surveys aren't done with apps after every meal, they are done with surveys you fill out every 3-6-12 months that ask you how many cups of chicken you eat, and our guidelines are so absurd that they recommend half a slab of bacon like 3-5 ounces at most for a meal and a ton of beans and peanuts and stuff to make up for the lack of protein and they tell you the amount of animal protein you should have is like 1.5 chicken nuggets...
      Keto isn't going to wreck my liver. You don't find liver disease in meat focused tribes in Africa but in less tribal areas of Africa you find liver disease rampant because of hepatitis, liver parasites, and alcohol consumption.
      "People with fatty liver also got more of their total calories from protein: 16 percent compared with 15.4 percent without the liver condition."
      If you think that a 0.6% increase in protein calories is going to give you fatty liver then man let me sell you some Shiba INU for 0.001 per coin that shit's going to $1 I promise you I'm totally not taking advantage of lack of information and gullibility I promise! /sarcasm
      Not only that but there have been 2 studies I know of recently that have reversed non alchoholic fatty liver disease. 1 in children, 1 in adults. They had to cut out all sugar (which we have a lot of sugar in our bread for example in America) no sugary beverages especially not fruit juices. They also had to cut out of their diet anything high in unsaturated fats. Canola oil, soybean oil, pretty much anything that you can't cook or squeeze the oils out yourself had to go. Avacado oil is fine, I'm not sure about olive oil to be honest, but lard and bacon grease were fine.
      They also were not allowed to lose weight. They had to get on a scale every night and any weight loss they were told to eat more. Every night they talked to the doctor doing the study.
      Everyone reversed non-alchoholic fatty liver disease in both studies. No weight loss, not even keto, just cut out fructose, cut out added sugars, cut out chemically extracted unsaturated fats, eat what ever the hell else you wanted. Everyone improved.
      What kind of studies am I going to give a fuck about? Studies like that? Or "How many cups of beef did you eat over the past 6 months" surveys with very little controls and a thousand confounding factors?
      Pretty easy solution. Dietary science is utter shit and we need to raise our standards. Elon Musk would be bankrupt if he had the kind of intellectuals that produce the scientific research that you're looking at. Nutritional science is in a dark place. It's shit. Utter shit. Almost everything is correlations, they're trying to work out causations, but the foundations are sand. The first nutritional organizations were based out of the 7th day adventist churches, especially one where a young girl had a fever dream that god told her not to eat animal products, and then the food industry pays for the science they want, and the science reporters are pretty much just churning out articles without ever talking to the scientists, assuming they even have good scientists.
      Nutrition science needs to go back to first principles and really develop a healthy outlook. The early foundations of nutritional science came from a poisonous tree, not first principles and people are getting more sick the more we "know"
      Yeah some of the things you know WILL help. However there is newer science, with a different bias based on the Weston A Price philosophies and he started with first principles. He studied indigenous tribes barely touched by society.
      I'll take that over a teenage fever dream in a radical church every second of every day all year long.

  • @winnersofchampions
    @winnersofchampions 2 года назад +5

    Sugars are okay if you don’t have sugar or carb addiction. The Doctor makes it seem like everyone can have a little sugar and walk away. That is why we have eliminated carbs and sugar in our society.

  • @555Trout
    @555Trout 2 года назад +23

    "If you stick to the diets" is where this all falls apart.
    Who here thinks sticking to a Twinkie diet caloric intake limit is doable?

    • @555Trout
      @555Trout 2 года назад

      @@roxchblickt What's the point?

    • @555Trout
      @555Trout 2 года назад

      @@roxchblickt And what exactly did I say that made you think I disagree with this?
      Learn to read better.

    • @roxchblickt
      @roxchblickt 2 года назад

      @@555Trout starting my reply with "that's the point" I just acknowledged your critique and then describes how I don't have to struggle with "sticking to the diet". Learn to comprehend!

    • @555Trout
      @555Trout 2 года назад

      @@roxchblickt Stay off comment boards. You are not ready for prime time and annoy the rest of us.

  • @BloodySod33
    @BloodySod33 2 года назад +3

    Just wondering if the elephant in the room is our modern over consumption of processed vegetable seed oils. I've been told they have a strong link to obesity and heart health. Both of these epidemics were nearly non existent until all of our food was being routinely filled with processed vegetable seed oils.

    • @bradturner7678
      @bradturner7678 Год назад

      Calorie dense, highly processed, nutrient defecient food, you are eating over 3000kcal a day easily and still defecient in all vitamins, you arent moving at all, you get little sleep, your stress is through the roof, little muscle mass, and people want to blame one macronutrient for their issues lol.

  • @MsK-pt4kc
    @MsK-pt4kc 2 года назад +17

    But these people that were eating the high carbs and honey were probably not eating snacking and junk food, fast food, soda and seed oils either. They're probably not on their screens all day, they're not sitting in front of a desk all day. Although I do believe calories do count they are still not the end all- be-all; you can put someone on a 700 calorie per day diet and then give them insulin and they will gain weight. Also these studies of these random people far far away do not have the same outcomes if if you would do it with people here in the US or in Canada as our lifestyles our stress levels are so much different. Plus I'm more interested in burning fat as opposed to calories as you can burn 300 calories riding a bike and then eat a muffin and you've put those calories right back. I'd rather burn fat. Also your body burns fat and is more efficient if you add resistance training. Cardio can make you hungry and it burns calories in addition to leveling out where you constantly have to increase your cardio which is a vicious cycle, but again it does not burn fat. These people did not utilize resistance training but only movement/steps/cardio.

    • @KJB0001
      @KJB0001 2 года назад

      Ms K, no the Hadza don't eat processed food! LOL!!!

    • @shawnsanborn2057
      @shawnsanborn2057 2 года назад

      I kept it as simple as possible. I cut sugar, started eating half of what i used to. Moderate exercise walking an hour a day. Thats it. I lost 34 lbs in six months.

    • @TehKaiser
      @TehKaiser 2 года назад

      I can sit in front of a screen all day and remain at 120 lbs as a 6ft male.

  • @Straightdeal
    @Straightdeal 2 года назад +49

    I can support the carbs in-carbs-out theory from experience. When I was in my thirties, I wanted to lose weight. I ate less, and ate a lot of carbs (fruit), and lost a lot of weight.
    Now I am 66, a little more knowledgeable about foodstuffs, fats, proteins and carbs, and chose to go on a HFLC diet around 3 years ago. Once again, I lost weight (and am keeping it down!). From a health perspective, the HFLC seems to make more sense, e.g. avoiding metabolic syndrome, and the issues that go along with that, like cardiovascular disease, Type 2 diabetes and so on.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 2 года назад +4

      I started adding more fat and now I have high cholesterol, which I've never had before, yet I've lost 10 lbs

    • @darrenwalshe8513
      @darrenwalshe8513 2 года назад +4

      @@snowbird6855 cholesterol has jot a bad rap that is a myth, joel greene has great info on this, u need cholesterol xx

    • @laraoneal7284
      @laraoneal7284 2 года назад

      I’m doing high fat somewhat low carbs. Carnivore diet but I have to eat leafy greens with the meat. Too much meat is too heavy feeling for me thus adding the leafy greens ie spinach, arugula it lessens a full feeling.

    • @Apexpurrfection
      @Apexpurrfection 2 года назад +1

      @@snowbird6855 that's good that your cholesterol went up.

    • @recrutementagronome339
      @recrutementagronome339 2 года назад +1

      @@snowbird6855 switch to olive oil like source of fat

  • @spiikedude
    @spiikedude 2 года назад

    This was fascinating, thank you for hosting this interview. How do we fund the lock down study? Let's start a kickstarter

  • @michellelee6306
    @michellelee6306 2 года назад +2

    Nice conversation. Tom did an amazing job directing the conversation so that there was an open exchange of ideas.

  • @livthedream5885
    @livthedream5885 2 года назад +16

    I’ve done both AIP and strict plant based diets. They both allowed me to shed weight, but after a period on each I craved the “forbidden” foods from each. Finding balance and what works for you seems to make sense to me, bearing in mind basic rules of nutrition, gut health, and energy balance.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 2 года назад

      Basic rules of nutrition do t work for people with high insulin..as it doesn't take it into account, especially with age and people become insulin resistant.

  • @baska168
    @baska168 2 года назад +4

    I guess the "problem" is not just about fat vs sugar or calories. I imagine Hadza don't eat flour, cereals and are outside all day, etc. 😉 Sometimes I'm like let's just go live in a forest, I imagine it and I crave it so much! We're missing out so much in our civilised environment..

  • @mucefitadonelly9457
    @mucefitadonelly9457 2 года назад +12

    In my personal EXPERIENCE, when I did low carb, low calorie ( and calorie counting) diet it was so hard to lose weight for me. With IF and keto I consistent eat 400 or more calories a day and I have lost more weight than the previous diet. So my experience doesn't really match what this dude days.

    • @uelude
      @uelude 2 года назад +2

      And all of it is a waste of your time if you put the weight back on in 6 months. 400cal a day is typically a recipe for disaster.

    • @mucefitadonelly9457
      @mucefitadonelly9457 2 года назад +1

      @@uelude that's not what I meant, I meant in eating 400 more calories than I usually did and still losing weight. Now I eat around 2000 calories when I used to eat around 1600

    • @coachvdberg
      @coachvdberg 2 года назад +1

      @@mucefitadonelly9457Yes but that's probably because of your body didnt work how it should work and with the new amount off food 2000 calories it does, now youre doing a great job!

    • @DanEngell
      @DanEngell Год назад

      He says you can lose just as much weight eating carbohydrates in a calorie deficit. No s*** Sherlock. At least he sort of admits that the only way to stick to doing that would be to lock yourself in a room for a year and have a researcher providing the food.

  • @aaronbearchi
    @aaronbearchi 2 года назад

    "And... I'm asking as someone who wants to be able to eat ice cream.." - oh, its me! Got a good laugh out of this. Great video!

  • @MsK-pt4kc
    @MsK-pt4kc 2 года назад +6

    People don't go on low carb and say "this is great I can eat all the calories I want." No because they're eating high levels of protein and higher fat and they're going to be satiated much faster, they're actually going to automatically and intuitively eat less food so they're sort of auto regulating their own calorie intake But when you eat a high carb diet you're going to crave more carbs you're not going to be satiated because you're probably not eating enough fat enough protein and your body is going to keep seeking more protein and fat. Only someone with very little knowledge and nutrition and brand new to keto or low carb with things such a thing like they could eat as many calories as they want.

    • @montycora
      @montycora 2 года назад

      If after all research done he still thinks that it is a simple matter of calories, he obviously knows nothing about nutrition...

    • @bradturner7678
      @bradturner7678 Год назад

      Im willing to bet 99% of people who go on diets dont even track calories, everytime ive known people to "diet" theyll do whatever is popular or currently in, and they lose weight because theyve been restricted to a great deal of the usual food people eat, and people have a lot more trouble losing weight eating carbs compared to fat when not counting calories.

    • @bradturner7678
      @bradturner7678 Год назад

      @@montycora because at the core it is calories, the nuance is what can we do to eat less thats practical to the average joe. Keto seems to do well for this, people enjoy carnivore and others do plant based.

    • @montycora
      @montycora Год назад +1

      @@bradturner7678 - at the core it's the hormones, not the calories. Each body processes calories differently. Calories is a guide, not the core.

  • @yanostropicalparadise755
    @yanostropicalparadise755 2 года назад +16

    man people just constantly overlook the obvious, yes the hadza eat carbs but what types of carbs and do they mix carbs with fat? no they don't. in a standard american diet we mix carbs from grains mainly, eat sugar with it and mix in vegetable oils. so no is no the same as that tribes eating habits. we eat low nutrition foods which are high in energy it keeps us hungry so we eat more. the hadza eat tubers, honey and hunted animals, all high nutrition, all healthier than anything americans eat. you body changes with your diet not the other way around. your misunderstanding your own data and your experiment is failed.

    • @Paulijah_
      @Paulijah_ 2 года назад +1

      Yeah I feel more confused after this video, what’s carbs are they talking about, I don’t see how fruits and veggies which are carbs being bad for any human being.

    • @yanostropicalparadise755
      @yanostropicalparadise755 2 года назад +1

      @@Paulijah_ depends on the vegetable ad the quantities of fruits. high starch vegetables and tubers when eaten with vegetable oils will cause immediate fat gains. this tribe eats lean meats with tubers or alone and separately, honey they eat at other times not with their meals. its a misrepresentation of facts to say they eat all those things. in america we eat everything in the same meals this causes fat gain. you can eat fruit all you want but don't eat anything else till the next meal hours later. you can eat proteins and fats all you want but eat carbs with it and you gain fat immediately. its not confusing once you understand how the body works. yes some people can eat everything at one time and not gain fat but eventually as the years increases they will gain the fat. this is due to the damage eating those things together causes.

  • @christopherelong7214
    @christopherelong7214 2 года назад +2

    A couple of things to be noted
    1, injecting insulin by athletes is different from eating high carb foods to trigger insulin. Eating carbs comes with sugar why the former doesn’t.
    2), table sugar contains fructose and sucrose . Fructose doesn’t affect blood sugar and has to be metabolized solely by your liver which can be a problem if
    It’s consumed in high amounts.
    3, Everyone is different when it come to carb management. Some people know when. Stop and others can’t control it ( know yourself).
    4, High carb diet while eating less often and exercising works for weight maintenance and hardly for weight loss.
    5, if you go zero carbs for extended periods be careful when you come back because your body might not know how to handle sugar anymore because of metabolic switch .
    6) if you go for some carbs eat them during your first meal not dinner .
    Good luck.

  • @atheplummer
    @atheplummer 2 года назад +10

    One thing to look at is the refined food industry's expanded use of HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) as the primary sweetener and the rate of society obesity. I hypothesize that that particular additive must have something in it that scientists aren't seeing that may be triggering the obesity epidemic in the west.
    HFCS is made from 'horse' or 'field' corn, That particular type of corn is not digestible by human beings.
    I wish someone would look into this possibility, but unfortunately most of the funding for food research comes from the same producers of these types of sweetener or 'sugar' producers. The obesity epidemic is a result of political pressure.... Don't believe me? Remember the 'food pyramid' put out by the government in the 70's? I was a elementary student then and when it was presented to me as a 'healthy diet', I knew it was BS. Ask yourself this question. Why do animal farmers pen up their animals and feed them nothing but grain a few weeks/months before they send them to the market? To fatten them up. The food pyramid just replicates the same diet for humans.... Go figure....

    • @inz_uzi
      @inz_uzi 2 года назад

      HFCS is just a mixture of glucose and fructose and I doesn't differ much from table sugar (which can be only absorbed after being broken to glucose and fructose by enzymes).

    • @atheplummer
      @atheplummer 2 года назад +2

      @@inz_uzi I've been assured of this in the past too... However, much like 'science' is sure the Aether doesn't exist, because they don't know how to look for it (it has been found to exist but mainstream science won't acknowledge the experiment), I wonder if there isn't some unknown/unobserved substance contained within HFCS that isn't being identified that may be causing the tendency for the trend in weight gain.

    • @michaelmomot9470
      @michaelmomot9470 2 года назад

      You may find Dr. Lustig’s work with obese children interesting. He has a video on how the body deals with fructose of any kind, and it’s very sobering. It will begin to answer your questions on HFCS.

    • @shawnsanborn2057
      @shawnsanborn2057 2 года назад

      Lol… i remember the food pyramid. So many servings of this so many of that.

  • @warriorsoftheheart
    @warriorsoftheheart 2 года назад +3

    The more I educate myself (qualified personal trainer, chef, and further studies in nutrition), the more I come back to the premise that everything is related to gut health. Yes, some people thrive on carbs, other thrive on keto... Everyone says green veg is good for you, yet personally green veg causes inflammation in my body.. Especially asparagus which makes me unable to bend my fingers... But have I had gut problems? Oh hell yeah. We need to listen to our body and workout what is right for us.. I don't think there is any one diet or lifestyle to suit us all.. If our gut health is as unique to us as our fingerprint, then so too is our nutritional needs.

  • @waynebullock6676
    @waynebullock6676 2 года назад +6

    The insulin theory of weight loss has been known for over 100 years! and yes you can lose weight or maintain weight on both eating fat or carbs however it depends on if your insulin sensitive or insulin resistant. If your insulin sensitive your ability to mobilize glucose and burn it is better than if you are insulin resistant and there are several factors that can
    cause this such as generics and most importantly diet. However if you are insulin resistant losing weight is harder especially if you’re eating sugar and carbs. If you
    reduce the magnitude of your insulin response and wait for it recede over time via fasting so you can burn stored fat. Dr Fung and many others that support this theory,
    support fasting, reduced feeding windows with low carb eating to limit the insulin response to those with insulin resistance, but again it is for those with insulin resistance and it is not for everyone!

  • @philippegns
    @philippegns 2 года назад

    Awesome content as usual !

  • @Bubagigant
    @Bubagigant 2 года назад

    What a balanced discussion. Thanks Tom!

  • @Piratebreadstick
    @Piratebreadstick 2 года назад +5

    Except the minute I start eating a cup of steamed rice per day in place of say, lots of cheese, I immediately start gaining a kilogram per week, even when walking 10 kilometres a day ( and no, it wasn't muscle I was gaining).
    Carbs ARE !!!! the problem. Only a person who's never had a weight problem will tell you otherwise.

    • @minhnguyenthai5582
      @minhnguyenthai5582 2 года назад +1

      Did you really do count your calories?

    • @serenityjewel
      @serenityjewel 2 года назад +2

      That's not true for everybody. There are y people who go on a vegan diet and lose tons of weight. There are many people who go on a high fat diet and lose tons of weight. Why everyone thinks their truth is everybody's truth is beyond me.

    • @minhnguyenthai5582
      @minhnguyenthai5582 2 года назад

      @@serenityjewel ok, the only reason people lose weight is because they are on calories deficit. You can be on whatever diet and still lose tons of weight, but they still obey the law of calorie in and calorie out.
      You might be on low carb or low fat diet and not count your calories and still lose weight but that doesn't mean calorie don''t work out.
      And that is true for everybody on this planet. Get your head together. Do your own research. I highly recommend you check out Layne Norton channel.

    • @serenityjewel
      @serenityjewel 2 года назад

      @@minhnguyenthai5582 I already know that. I've already done my research. Apparently you think you're the only person who's ever saw a video or read a book. I also know, like it was pointed out in this video, that people's bodies respond differently as far as how their metabolism responds to excess calories and different types of foods so what works for one person might not work for the next person. And I don't follow people. I follow the research and I'm open to changing my mind when new information is discovered. The fan girl/boy obsession people on RUclips have with nutritional gurus is not for me.

  • @sssousaaa
    @sssousaaa 2 года назад +3

    What about blue zones where it appears that a high-carb diet from essentially whole foods might be associated with longevity? It seems to me that 1-year studies give us little answers in terms of the long-term lifestyle outcomes. I believe it would be more useful to design long-term follow-up studies to assess our nutritional habits more accurately, including to understand if different people may benefit from different diets.

  • @marksandison3642
    @marksandison3642 2 года назад

    Hi Tom. After watching this video I immediately went to a doctor who prescribed Ozempic that is a semaglutide and took my first weekly injection a few hours ago. I became a diabetic two years ago and have tried all the usual blood glucose lowering drugs from medical doctors and homeopaths none of which worked! Also tried intermittent fasting that was easy to do and lost 10kgs.
    Your video makes total sense and I often used to say to friends that the medical fraternity does not have the proper answer to diabetes especially as we know that IMMEDIATELY after bariatric surgery a patient's blood sugar levels go back to normal never to become abnormal again!

  • @wellnesspathforme6236
    @wellnesspathforme6236 2 года назад

    What is the sample size you did your study for each of the high carb and high fat diets? What kind of carbs and what kind of fats did you use? What effect was there on satiety?
    What did the bodies do with all the extra metallic iron filings ingested in the high carb, high processed food diets?

  • @Biohackthefat
    @Biohackthefat 2 года назад +5

    Hormones drive the fat burning process

  • @mikecarrato9253
    @mikecarrato9253 2 года назад +7

    Amazing to me that intelligent people still don’t recognize the primary importance of insulin. Sure, some people regulate insulin fine; for them, carbs don’t matter and calories are primary. But for the majority of us IR westerners, whose insulin is chronically high, weight loss will not occur until insulin is fixed, and that means carbs are primary. Why is this so difficult for these people to understand?

  • @BackoftheLineTennis
    @BackoftheLineTennis 2 года назад +1

    Hey Tom, I think the title is a bit misleading based on the interview, but maybe I just missed this. Herman really doesn't talk in terms of all nutrients and their importance, but seems the study strictly focuses on weight loss comparison between high fat or high carb. He actually avoids wandering too far from the linear rule that in homostasis both provide the exact energy burn to sustain the body. The gray area comes when talking about insulin, actual nutrition and health (he kinda touches into it the the optimal lifestyle and parts in sugar, but quickly goes back on line), and then no real follow up to sustain weight loss and healthy living or overal nutrition after. Really, he is pretty much in line with what most recommondeation are anyway, with reduced processed food and more whole foods, moderated eating, and exercise. Anyway, appreacite all you do and love you provide access to these guest and always provide engaging content.

  • @tima4167
    @tima4167 2 года назад +2

    Dr. Fung is the leading medical author on this subject

  • @Rooster_Sailing
    @Rooster_Sailing 2 года назад +5

    What if we’re getting fat because our bodies don’t have to optimize for seasonal diets and we’re no longer cleaning house with intermittent fasting?

    • @bradturner7678
      @bradturner7678 Год назад +1

      Because if that was the case humans would have been obese throughout the last 10000 years, medieval people lived almost exclusivley on flour/wheat, or grains, yet that wasnt the case because they didnt have an excess of food, what we have now is access to cheap, highly processed food that keeps us hungry despite eating far over calorie needs.

  • @thorstenwanoth6774
    @thorstenwanoth6774 2 года назад +7

    Awesome discussion guys! there is another channel I watch - Dr. Eric Berg on YT, seems pretty clued up about food inputs into the body and what particular things do. More on the keto side but a collaboration of the 3 of you may give even more food for thought.

    • @nancymarrero6781
      @nancymarrero6781 2 года назад +2

      Love Dr. Berg

    • @RosemarieFit
      @RosemarieFit 2 года назад +1

      Fun fact. Did you know he’s a Scientologist? His son Ian came out on TikTok a few months ago and called him out. Also said he was a narcissist. I was so bummed bc I’ve watched Dr Berg for years, although never bought any of his products.

    • @nancymarrero6781
      @nancymarrero6781 2 года назад +1

      @@RosemarieFit yes I saw that as well

    • @KJB0001
      @KJB0001 2 года назад +2

      @@RosemarieFit Most doctors are narcissists as are most male Scientologists. This doesn't change the science that he reports, nor does it change how carbs affecet your body. Don't be part of the blind cancel culture. A personal relationship between a son and father are none of your business anyway.

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Год назад

      @@RosemarieFit and ?

  • @janetmckush8603
    @janetmckush8603 2 года назад +2

    There was no discussion about the degree of misery / hunger during the various dietary studies. Obviously the high carb folks are going to generally feel more hungry / compliance lower than in the more balanced macro diets. Or not? Was that considered in these studies? Thanks for your podcasts.....enjoy them immensely,

  • @ZombieJohn
    @ZombieJohn 2 года назад

    Great stuff! (Pro tip: Fast-forward through the parts where the Host is talking and you can watch whole vid in about 18 minutes!)

  • @iga6085
    @iga6085 2 года назад +5

    After years of yo-yo dieting, chronic inflammation and constant fatigue I discovered clean keto and turned my life around. Nobody can tell me that calorie is a calorie. I am a living and breathing proof of exact opposite to what that guy is saying. Thank you dr Berg, dr Egbert and dr Fung for literaly saving my life!

    • @stephischill2823
      @stephischill2823 Год назад +1

      ? He had nothing good to say about ultra processed / hyper palatable foods, refined sugar etc....nor did he say anything bad about doing keto, or any other lifestyle choice. In fact, he said more than once that he recommends avoiding most of what you would avoid on a ketogenic diet as much as possible. All he conveyed is that weight loss is awesome for your health, regardless of how it's achieved & that it CAN be done no matter how you choose to eat....as long as you lower your calorie intake. Keto has been amazing for me as well & that's what I'm going to stick with for the foreseeable future. I guess I just don't get where "this guy" got you feeling like he's disagreeing with your personal choices or saying any of the people you learned from are quacks. He simply presented data that he collected proving that no matter what people eat in controlled studies, equal amounts of calories had the same end result. Weight loss & better health. 🤷 It's up to us as individuals to decide our preferred diet, and keto is not a good option for everyone. Is it really that hard for you to objectively listen to an evolutionary biologist on what he's (to his surprise) discovered without feeling diminished? Kinda sad imho.

  • @scottk1525
    @scottk1525 2 года назад +4

    If you're gonna make a title like *Everything You Know About Nutrition is Wrong," you better follow it up by dropping some groundbreaking, bleeding-edge, paradigm-breaking knowledge bombs. But this is all old news.

  • @michaelmomot9470
    @michaelmomot9470 2 года назад +1

    I have a million questions. Bottom line, our bodies are super complex, and in no place more than in the brain and the digestive system/microbiome. So exciting to see science focusing on unraveling the mysteries and complexities of these processes. So humbling to see how little we know. So exciting to see the frontier of that knowledge advance. Thanks for putting all this out there Tom. You have educated me lots during the pandemic and ignited an unquenchable curiosity.

    • @rogos2528
      @rogos2528 2 года назад

      Thank you for mentioning the gut biome. The research coming out is completely changing the way we are looking at food and the body.

  • @rdance3
    @rdance3 2 года назад

    This changes everything! In efforts to keep my calories burned vs. consumed equal, I'm always logging my intake vs. estimated caloric burn ( using a BMR and adjusted to activity for the day). I've been way overthinking it. I've been trying to match them every day. Now, I'm going to try a different approach. 2300 calories per day, regardless of how hard I train. We shall see.

    • @cherishliberty7663
      @cherishliberty7663 2 года назад

      Just curious! How has the last 3 months gone with your adjustment?

  • @Paulijah_
    @Paulijah_ 2 года назад +7

    The term Carbohydrates is thrown around so loosely. When you guys say high carb diet what foods are you thinking of ? Your not talking about fruits and veggies strictly are you?

    • @KJB0001
      @KJB0001 2 года назад +1

      aully, right? Tired of ppl using the term CARB when they actually mean sugar/pie/bread/fries and not kale/cauliflower/raspberries.

  • @david.walters
    @david.walters 2 года назад +12

    One of the ways to feel positive energy is to take your attention away from the negative and focus on everything that transmits positivity to you. Have a beautiful day! 💜💜💜

    • @jackcarter9872
      @jackcarter9872 2 года назад

      but then evil grows unchecked because we're ignoring it to be happy....

  • @coolgrl3700
    @coolgrl3700 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Tom , I love dr. Fung but it's great to hear alternative theories.

  • @T4KKFI
    @T4KKFI 2 года назад

    So I'm 25, fasting (At least 7 16oz bottles) , just got back to working out intensely, weigh 244 from a couple weeks being at a peak of 255Ibs. Now I eat once a day and eat the same stuff everyday (Two turkey burgers, five eggs, Oatmeal With 2.5 teaspoons of Raw sugar, cacao powder, maca powder, granulated flax seed, Quinoa, Organic cinnamon), take supplements and drink pomegranate and kombucha on the regular. Is the 2.5 teaspoons of raw sugar too much, I decided to keep it at that amount because of all of the dried powders wasn't giving the oatmeal any shine?

    • @bradturner7678
      @bradturner7678 Год назад

      It isnt going to cause much harm, the issue is sugar just makes you hungry a lot more, if you can manage that youll be fine, maybe tey some low cal/sugar syrup for your oatmeal its what i do.

  • @rosilatrailera
    @rosilatrailera 2 года назад +3

    I have insulin resistance and low carb Keto has brought my numbers down to normal.

  • @thereligionofrationality8257
    @thereligionofrationality8257 2 года назад +6

    Is this a case of missing the forest by focusing on a tree? It's a verified fact that many tens or hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, have reversed obesity and diabetes by going on a low carb diet. They also lose the craving to eat all the time. Excess sugar is poisonous to the human body. It specifically damages LDL through glycation which leads to oxidation. This prevents the liver from reabsorbing it, so macrophages end up doing the job. But these macrophages lodge under the intima of arteries, causing atherosclerosis. This is simple, known human physiology.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 2 года назад +1

      So if I want to lower cholesterol, what should I do?

    • @thereligionofrationality8257
      @thereligionofrationality8257 2 года назад +4

      @@snowbird6855 Instead of trying to lower cholesterol you should try to rid your body of the damaged cholesterol (called small dense LDL). The only way to do that is to stop eating sugar and by limiting carbohydrates. In other words, no bread, cereal, or other processed foods, and limited amounts of whole starchy foods. It also means cutting out seed oils. Healthy cholesterol is not bad; damaged cholesterol is.

    • @zeehedge9176
      @zeehedge9176 2 года назад +1

      l tend to agree with low carb diet but then l saw a video which says that the people of papua new guinea who eat 95% carb have no case of obesity, heart disease or diabetes... Their diet consists mostly of sweet potatoes. Maybe most high carbs foods are bad for us but there must be something good in sweet potatoes??.

    • @thereligionofrationality8257
      @thereligionofrationality8257 2 года назад +1

      @@zeehedge9176 There are certainly many factors involved. Total calories ingested, for example, along with physical activity, quality of carbohydrates eaten, use of factory fats (processed seed oils), etc. But it's a physiological fact that high carb diets cause insulin resistance, even in thin peoples. To illustrate: The average age of death in Papua New Guinea is less than 65 years. The average age of death in Japan is over 85 years. Japan has an obesity rate of less than a tenth of that of America (3% vs. over 30%). Yet Japan's diabetes rate is nearly that of America (off the top of my head, about 7 1/2% vs. 9 1/3%). So, no, it's not simple to unweave all the variables in a population's health, but those variables don't change human physiology: we evolved eating primarily saturated fats and protein, and have not had nearly enough time to evolve into a plant based diet.

    • @whytemancanjump
      @whytemancanjump Год назад

      There are no populations in the world that i am aware of who live long healthy lives on low carb. I think it's easy to assume that you think that people have reversed this and that on low carb, but the proper science says otherwise, and practical science of blue zones is high carbs for a lifetime works. Most low carbers i come across have been doing this for 3 or 6 months. Big deal! Where are all the healthy Atkins low carbers from the 70's and 80's? They don't exist, probably dead...or changed to another diet. At least high carb longevity is sustainable and real, not man made to prey on the vulnerable who are fat and sick who have been seduced by low carb, Keto, Paleo. It supports people's bad habits. Like eating a burger...it's not the processed beef, the processed bacon or the processed cheese...it's the bun that made you fat and sick, ha ha.

  • @nb8298
    @nb8298 2 года назад +2

    I love Tom's audience in the background :)

  • @erlabjork1054
    @erlabjork1054 2 года назад

    To you have a link to the caloriemith show he talks about

  • @dort5436
    @dort5436 2 года назад +3

    Maybe I carbohydrate sensitive but if I eat over 40-60 carbs I gain weight. Given the obesity problem most of the population has hormones out of wack. Thank goodness he's not a doctor, MD, that's treating people.

    • @Paulijah_
      @Paulijah_ 2 года назад

      Just curious what carbs are referring to? Like plants and fruits?

    • @dort5436
      @dort5436 2 года назад +1

      @@Paulijah_ When I eat more total carbs in particular fruits, I gain weight. I don't over eat above ground vegetables no desire.

    • @LisaCapron
      @LisaCapron 2 года назад +5

      He may not be an MD… but he’s saying the same things they do. As a nurse I cringe at the “nutrition” information I hear doctors giving out.

  • @Kaztrofy
    @Kaztrofy 2 года назад +4

    Not sure I buy that weight is the most important aspect of health. There's alot of inflammatory foods out there you can get sick from even if you don't eat enough to get obese.

    • @matildawendelin5210
      @matildawendelin5210 Год назад

      I agree with you. What I've understood from binge watching different experts talk about scientific discoveries, fat is not the problem - only the symptom of underlying problems (in the case of inflammations - which are also symptoms of a vast array of problems, usually started in the gut), and at the same time the body's normal way of storing energy for times of food or water scarcity (triggered by high blood sugar spikes, and longer bouts of thirst in combination with high carbs). Dr. Richard Johnson explains this really well.

  • @TheExpeditionUK
    @TheExpeditionUK 2 года назад

    I've done the Keto several times, eating less overall (due to appetite control) but I believe my metabolism has decreased accordingly even though I'm exercising the same, so that when I go to Madeira on vacation, where there are lots of delicious carbs, I immediately start putting on weight and I'm forced to fast/keto to get it back down. I am now trying to increase my intake in order to take my metabolism back up to where it was, which means making sure I eat enough everyday. I am easily maintaining my weight but I have to do keto or fasting to affect it downwards. My gf is having even more of a problem post keto. Her metabolism has gone right down so she gains weight very easily in Madeira.

  • @marionmaierphilonatura
    @marionmaierphilonatura 2 года назад

    Very interesting. Thx. I wonder whether the kind of fat on a high fat low carb diet affects the outcome.

    • @whatsapp0576
      @whatsapp0576 2 года назад

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  • @nenengjackson
    @nenengjackson 2 года назад +3

    as far as i know there are two best types of diet for rapid weight loss, one is high fat low carbs and others whole plant base diet, both restricted the refine sugar, refine carbs, alcohols and any high processed foods... but sometimes for starting just cut refine sugar, alcohols and junk foods is enough for some people .... dont forget not to stress, reguler and reasonable exercise and expose yourself to sunshine.... btw intermittent fasting is kindly of working in my experienced. but its true, count calories method never work on me...

  • @loopy7057
    @loopy7057 2 года назад +4

    This guy taught me nothing new

  • @MickeAndersson67
    @MickeAndersson67 2 года назад +1

    When I thought I had it figured, everything is thrown out the window. What's now? Eat sugar? Stop excercising?

  • @darrenm8383
    @darrenm8383 2 года назад +1

    @Tom Bilyeu - Hey Tom, I've been following you for some time and you've really helped me in a number of areas like motivation, mind set, and health. What I've always found with your show is I see it as introduction to concepts that allows me to investigate further. In this particular episode I found the research vey interesting but the logic seems flawed.
    It seems that his premise is that for each of us there is a caloric level that if we eat below or above we will lose or gain weight with no consideration for other factors. One of the indicators of a flaw in Herman's logic is that he glossed over your example of the differences between your wife's and your own bodies reaction to food. As you noticed, your body processed those calories differently than your wife's did. An extreme example of this that I experienced was someone that I knew was house bound. They were dependent on me for the food they consumed. Having met with the doctor they were at a significant caloric deficit (diagnosed) and gaining weight (more body fat). She was morbidly obese.
    I actually agree that a caloric threshold exists, but I believe that our body state/chemistry/genetics and the type of food we consume interact to determine what our bodies do with those calories. Outside of your show, one of my favorite shows is the Huberman podcast. I love the abundance of references to and the time spent looking at high quality scientific studies as well as the holistic consideration of the complexity of the human body. I found this episode
    , ruclips.net/video/9tRohh0gErM/видео.html, particularly compelling. It looks at fasting and the impact on health and weight loss.
    I think you might find this presentation, ruclips.net/video/W9KC-91Dq2c/видео.html, by Eran Segal very interesting. It gets into an amazing series of studies that show that different people's bodies react differently to food and then they uncovered a correlation between individual body state and reactions to different foods. Seriously interesting stuff.
    The changes I have been able to make in my life (body and mind) based on following you and then digging deeper has been amazing, so thanks for doing what you do.

  • @Biohackthefat
    @Biohackthefat 2 года назад +4

    Biohacking is the way to go!! High fat protocols changed my life!

  • @DoctorHemi
    @DoctorHemi 2 года назад +13

    Great discussion! I've tried various versions of low-carb over the years and never had the "miraculous" results other people claim. Granted, I'm not obese, so maybe that matters, but I do like to lose fat each year for the summer and the ONLY thing that has ever worked for me is to monitor my calories closely and make sure I'm in a calorie deficit...and it always sucks! For me, the take away message of this discussion is that in order to make it suck LESS, you have to avoid foods that bypass the normal body/brain satiety signals...that is, avoid processed foods as much as possible.

    • @PNFLnetwork
      @PNFLnetwork 2 года назад +4

      You are not obese and expected magic from a low carb diet? You are exactly who this guy was talking to. A normal person who is not broken. So, keep your energy in/out in balance and life is wonderful. My problem with this doctor was, his discussion is irrelevant for people who are broken.

    • @DoctorHemi
      @DoctorHemi 2 года назад

      @@PNFLnetwork , interesting point.

    • @serenityjewel
      @serenityjewel 2 года назад

      I was 260 lbs and I lost weight on a low carb diet. I also lost weight on a high carb, low fat diet. You can lose weight on any diet as long as you stick to it.

    • @serenityjewel
      @serenityjewel 2 года назад

      @@PNFLnetwork Lots of people do a high fat, low carb plant based diet and lose weight. Just Google WFPB diet.

    • @Anna-rb6rg
      @Anna-rb6rg Год назад

      The problem is that everyone understands lowcarb differently.
      (and the fact that you mention different "versions of lowcarb" does not speak in your favor)

  • @Crywolf1337
    @Crywolf1337 2 года назад +2

    Let me save you 50 minutes " ITS CALORIES IN VS CALORIES OUT " *flies away*

  • @Belltuck
    @Belltuck 2 года назад +1

    Any diet will work -IF you stick to it. What causes so many of us to give up on our diets? That's the question. Personally, if I stay up late, I crave carbs. Low carb, exercise and early nights works for me -so far!

  • @vieraviera3278
    @vieraviera3278 2 года назад +27

    It’s a fascinating thought hw investors pull through this in the investments space When stocks n coin at a time Inflate and deflated without notice, lol for me I would have had a cardiac arrest longtime!!!😂

    • @masong827
      @masong827 2 года назад

      great say on crypto and passive platforms 👍 my honest opinion is only promoting what is working

    • @zackfred7512
      @zackfred7512 2 года назад

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    • @zackfred7512
      @zackfred7512 2 года назад

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    • @zackfred7512
      @zackfred7512 2 года назад

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    • @aadilatumpe6719
      @aadilatumpe6719 2 года назад

      @@zackfred7512 This lady right here, I tradr with her she’s inventive and the P.O.T are no jokes, i won’t look awestricken u made mention of her

  • @josephsoucy3314
    @josephsoucy3314 2 года назад +5

    It would be nice if you answered your questions. Rather than promoting his hypothesis.

    • @josephsoucy3314
      @josephsoucy3314 2 года назад +1

      Also, break the hot tub pretty much everybody's got the same DNA in the same gene pattern because they live all by themselves in a small little community. How does this affect those of us are all inbred from all different parts of the world. Bottom line is everybody's different. I'm not really getting this.

  • @kristaG73
    @kristaG73 2 года назад

    My mind is literally blown right now. I've been tinkering for 12 years with all of this. I'm not even done with this video, and I bought his book. Wow. I don't even know what to say.

  • @bullittuk
    @bullittuk 2 года назад +1

    I am 53, I eat a high carb diet but never put weight on and I sit or lay down most of the day when I'm not working but for 30 years I've done a hard physical job for 7/8 hours a day and also do well over 10000 steps. We aren't designed for a sedentary life

  • @dannytheman2217
    @dannytheman2217 2 года назад +4

    Weight loss is easy, just have one meal a day:
    Problem solved,

  • @NathalieLazo
    @NathalieLazo 2 года назад +4

    Incredible person reading this, go after what it is that you want in life! Learn the skills, do whatever it takes! You are capable of anything! I believe in you! ✨
    Love - Nat ❤️

  • @Damudean
    @Damudean 2 года назад

    Please explain, I was exercising an incredible amount, Eating in a caloric deficit but often. Why was I still not able to burn the fat around my stomach. It’s obvious not only calories in is it?

    • @whatsapp0576
      @whatsapp0576 2 года назад

      Helpline ⬆️ 👆🏻 be a part of my success today, for questions or guidance, support 💙

  • @robertmiller2367
    @robertmiller2367 2 года назад

    So how do we accurately determine the amount of calories that we burn no matter the activity so we can then cut back and in turn lose weight (at home lol)

  • @QuanTheAlchemist
    @QuanTheAlchemist 2 года назад +10

    Here are my 10 extra tips to INCREASE your daily manifestations that I’ve learned over the years..👇🏾
    1. Practice gratitude every morning. When you wake up, list everything that you are grateful for and feel that gratitude in your core. Feel free to write things down in a journal so it is easy for you to remember.
    2. Replace your negative thoughts with positive ones. Every time you feel a negative thought coming on, make a positive spin on it right away.
    3. Take ownership for things that happen in your life. It's easy to blame others however you will feel much better when you realize that most issues stem from us.
    4. ALWAYS believe that good things are about to happen. By being open to new possibilities you are inviting abundance into your life.
    5. Remember that like attracts like so you get back whatever you put out, whether it is good or bad. So do good AND received good.
    6. Meditate for five minutes a day. During this time focus on how you want your life to be; but place your focus on how you feel AND feel that feeling as if you have already accomplished those goals.
    7. Step outside of your comfort zone. Stop playing it safe and make that decision to finally go for your dreams.
    8. Focus on activities that make you feel truly happy. When you are truly happy you have the best vibrational frequency to manifest your desires.
    9. Avoid the naysayers and surround yourself with people who only lift you higher. Downers will be downers, don't let them drag you into their misery.
    10. Don't be afraid to dream and know that you are always supported by the universe.
    Hope this helps!
    - Your Friendly Neighborhood Coach ❤

    • @LAinAustralia
      @LAinAustralia 2 года назад +1

      Tops, Quan! Thank You.👋🇦🇺

  • @questioningthoughts2152
    @questioningthoughts2152 2 года назад +4

    @Tom Bilyeu
    This was One big word salad, this guy seems to talk in empty circles producing no real information, this was a Fat Free empty Calorie episode, totally disappointed just like a shitty diet. I am not sure why Tom aired this episode.

    • @montycora
      @montycora 2 года назад

      I couldn't agree more, also truly disappointed. Calorie counting??? REALLY??? What are we, back to the 90's??? This is ridiculous. This guy is ridiculous.

  • @makaisenki
    @makaisenki 2 года назад +1

    The low carb is about high fat diets being sustainable weight loss via reducing the amount of exogenous fat being stored. If your insulin goes up but there's no fat consumed to get stored away and no carbs eaten to get stored away and protein to fat conversion is highly inefficient requiring say 30-70% more calories needed to produce the same calories this does not in any way invalidate the low carb model.
    It's like over inflating your tires. Yes you'll save on gas but the wear on tires is increased. Insulin without calories will produce weight loss yes because there is no calories.
    You'd have to do a low carb diet, a high carb diet, a mixed ratio diet with placebo controls in a hospital controlled setting to really do any work to debunk low carb ideology.
    Type 1 diabetics have been able to eat MORE calories with low carb and lose weight and without carbs your metabolic rate goes up 200-400 calories conservatively.
    Fasting with high insulin is still fasting and extreme low carb.

  • @dagan07
    @dagan07 2 года назад +1

    I'm glad Tom did push back, it exposed some blind-spots in Pontzer's thinking.

  • @knartfocker_
    @knartfocker_ 2 года назад +3

    That's a bold statement considering I know nothing about nutrition.

  • @catalinghinea7583
    @catalinghinea7583 2 года назад +4

    BS really big BS it apears one every week like the mushrooms after the rain

  • @dort5436
    @dort5436 2 года назад

    I would like the particular studies he referenced in show notes.