This Moment Changed NHL Hockey Forever.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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On April 11th, 2023... The entire NHL changed with the outcome of one game. The Sidney Crosby and the Pittsburgh Penguins faced the Chicago Blackhawks in game 81 with playoff & draft lottery implications surrounding the entire game. With the chance at Connor Bedard on the line for the Blackhawks.. the outcome of this game would change the entire NHL as we know it.
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You forgot to mention that this one loss changed the Habs outcome as well. They went from having pick #13 to pick #31 since they owned Florida’s 1st.
in which this pick ( along with the second round pick ) probably wouldn't be traded for Alex Newhook.
@malatour27 and if Newhook wasn't aquired via trade, then the Avalanche wouldn't have traded for Ross Colton.
P.s. (prediction) watch Ross Colton or Alex Newhook get the game winning goal in next years cup final or something wild 💀🤣
doesn't change the Habs outcome for next year though. Still gonna finish dead last
The Habs woes will never end
This is why I love this sport. One single goal in the 2nd to last game of the season ends up shifting the entire league in different directions.
Me too!
I can’t believe a guy named Buddy Robinson may have scored the most influential goal in the last 10 years 😂
It all comes down to Buddy Robinson. Love it haha
The GOAT
On the one hand, Buddy. But on the other hand, Robinson. A baseball writer once said an All-Robinson team could probably beat any other team of players with the same last name.
It's crazy how an entire season can come down to one play. I never could figure out why Chicago tried so hard to win that game vs Pittsburgh but guess it all turned out ok for them anyway. 😕
Because Chicago wasn’t actually tanking. The players tried hard all year because of coach Luke Richardson. The players wanted to win every game and players didn’t actually wanna lose. We coulda taken guys out that were actually playing well like toews, athanasiou, raddysh, mrazek but Chicago didn’t unlike the ducks taking guys like zegras and Mictavish out of the lineup completely. Others were tanking, Chicago simply just sucked.
The players want to win games, get good stats and show some talent in order tho be noticed, have bonus, have some pride, etc etc
@@Blackhawkenjoyer Zegras (81GP) and McTavish (80GP) missed a combined three games last year. The Blackhawks absolutely, unquestionably tanked on purpose. Trading away young stars like Debrincat for three draft picks, trading away Kane, trading Dach, icing what was effectively an AHL team, etc. Like they tanked hard and purpose and got rewarded for it, just fucking own it. The fact that they are getting 1OA despite that fact and all the off-ice stuff with the Beach situation is absolutely fucked.
And I say this as a Sens who had no strong feelings about the Hawks or even skin in the game for the Bedard lottery.
@@mattfisher5402 trading players away is how you rebuild its not called tanking. At the end of the season those players were taken outta the lineup to lose on purpose weather it was 1 or 30 they still tried to lose. You must not know how rebuilding works. Trade away the older players to get good picks. And tanking is players and coaches legit losing on purpose. Huge difference. And stop acting like you care about Kyle beach because nobody said anything about 3 first rounders last year I went back and checked all the posts from than and nobody said shit.
@@Blackhawkenjoyer only from a blackhawks fan... I watched multiple games of your team's. It was some of the worst hockey I've ever seen in the NHL. Your team has multiple players with no image on the nhl site. Your team iced an AHL team while trading away your good players for no reason, and you got rewarded for it. Also, if you were to lose picks, it would've been this year. The three last year were traded to you do the league couldn't take them away. Also, sorry that Zegras and McTavish missed a combined 3 games, I'm sure that's really on purpose. Are you gonna attack Terry next for missing away games because his wife gave birth?
It's always interesting to find those "what if " moments in any sports league . The fact that it was game 81 for both teams makes it even more interesting. When people say they can't have an impact on the world around them , I always tell them they never know what their interactions with others will really do and you may never really know . A journey man nhl player scores a goal and the penguins fell apart . Who would have thought that would have lead to the Bruins losing in the first round after the season they had . It's a weird, weird world and time we live in .
Now I’m seriously contemplating that Bergeron would have played another season had the Bruins went on a run…
As a hawks fan, I was pissed when buddy scored, and now its the best thing since 2010, 2013, 2015 and ofc 2007.
Isn’t it crazy how this single moment LITERALLY changed the ENTIRE future of the NHL. No one will ever know the other chain of events that would happen if the Penguins won that game
yes we do. the Hawks were getting the #1 pick wherever they ended up.
I was at this Pens game and honestly you could not believe the frustration after that goal especially after the huge tie. After the game looking at the box score I was shocked at how good Chicago played. Then watching this postseason unfold was crazy. It’s really crazy watching this video because I was thinking all this SAME STUFF since that night.
I am a DIE HARD Pens fan this loss was the first in a while that genuinely made me cry, idc what people say, I think the Pens could have beat Boston in Round 1, not to mention that the next 2 years might be it for Crosby.
No shot they would have beaten Boston.
@@cqpzg And Florida.... in 7, We got an AMAZING Top 6. Sid Geno Letang, Guentzel, Rakell, Zucker, Rust
@@coltoncarson_UKR-RUS Yeah but I don't think they had the goaltending, Bobrovsky stoled the series.
@@coltoncarson_UKR-RUS And terrible goaltending. Jarry would not have performed like Bobrovsky.
@@cqpzg He was a VESINA nominee in 2019
And Florida have won the Stanley Cup now. This butterfly effect keeps expanding (and it isn't close to finished).
YES
Buddy Robinson fan, here. I met him at a Binghamton Senators Kids Club event because I was a child when he was playing there. I have some pictures with other guys like Nick Paul and Ryan Dzingel. So happy to see this guy again!
Awesome to hear that!
I'm a Pens fan and this game made me mad as hell. But after watching this, I realize that loss might be what we really needed. No way were the Pens going to beat the Bruins in the first round. That would have opened the door to the Bruins winning the Cup and I hate the Bruins. But more so than that, we cleaned house of our garbage management and got arguably one of the best management options out there. Had we won that game, we might still have our old garbage management.
Before I dive into this video, I'm from Binghamton NY, where Buddy began his pro career. I am deeply honored to have watched and met this guy from his humble beginnings. Very underrated journeyman who was a class act and a great player.
I love stuff like this!!! Great job guy!!! All I know for sure is that Boston Bruins fans will NEVER get over be the highest Presidents trophy award winner to lose in the 1st round and not to say Pittsburgh couldn't have done it but it took a truly David & Goliath hot team to oust Boston and as we all saw Florida was that once in a lifetime 8th seed got hot team this year!!!
Thanks for watching!
Nice breakdown, well done!
Thank you!
This is why its the best sport, one event can spark a chain reaction!
I watched this game while it was happening, and I had a weird feeling it was gonna be very impactful because I knew it would kill the pens if they lost, and I knew florida could be dangerous in the playoffs, But EVEN STILL it went well past even my expectations. The NHL's newest cannon event.
This goal came with pure shock. It’s crazy to think how all this panned out, and this is just the beginning.
I watch all ur vids but this one especially was another level.
Best hockey content on the platform 🔥
Definitely not. It's too long
@@paskit219 yup
As coaches have told kids since they were 4: "Get to the net, Buddy. Good things happen there."
I still say the greatest upset in NHL history is Columbus sweeping Tampa. Boston might have dropped the last 3 games but Tampa didn't even show up.
As a Blackhawks fan, I think we should sign Buddy Robinson to the "Cory Perry" deal 🤣 ONE Million Dollars per each of his HISTORIC 4 career goals!
Great video. I disagree on Florida over Boston being the biggest upset in playoff history. The expansion San Jose Sharks in their playoff debut took down the president's trophy winning and soon to be Stanley Cup dynasty Detroit Red Wings in the 1st 8 seed over 1 seed in NHL history. Florida was a pretty good team that was a first place team just 2 seasons ago. The Sharks were a recent expansion team in an era where the league didn't reward you for being a new team like they do today. The Sharks were not anywhere near the caliber of team relative to the rest of the NHL that the Panthers are. That happened in '94.
i think this says a lot about the hawks tho they never gave up the whole season even when losing was in their best interests they played hard until the end i love that as a fan
I was there at my first pens game cheering them on while my boyfriend was cheering on Chicago. I was devastated. We just saw bedard return after his fractured jaw two weeks ago, and I finally got to see my penguins win!
This is an excellent hockey video. Great subject matter, great analysis, great data and context provided. Keep up the good work my man
1st time on this channel. Great video and analysis, I was almost sure I was watching a SB Nation video at some point. Keep up the good work, you just earned yourself a new sub.
You deserve at the least a million subs you make incredible videos
My team wasn't even mentioned in the video, yet I suspect that this butterfly effect will affect them.
If the Penguins had won, then they would have been the worst-record playoff team, and thus in line for the 17th pick in the draft, pending the question of which teams make it to the conference finals (and thus automatically get the last four draft positions). If Pittsburgh was that fragile, then they probably would have lost to Boston in the first round, and stayed in 17th place in the lottery, unlike the Panthers who made the final four (and ultimately the final two), thus causing all twelve playoff teams that did not make the conference finals to move up a position in the draft.
My team is not one of those twelve teams, but the New York Islanders are. They had the second-worst playoff record among playoff teams, and were eliminated in the first round by Carolina. So they started with the 18th pick, but moved up to 17th because of this Panthers run which presumably wouldn't have happened if Pittsburgh had won against Chicago.
Why does this affect my team? Because the Islanders traded their first round draft pick to Vancouver, who later traded it to my team, the Detroit Red Wings.
Assuming that we ultimately select a player with the 17th pick (instead of trading it away yet again), then we will have to remember this game with respect to whatever success that drafted player has as a Red Wing, because if Pittsburgh had won then we would presumably be picking 18th instead, and that player might very well have been gone before our pick.
I'd credit Hextall for being so extraordinarily incompetent at the TDL and making PIT worse despite trading away some futures.
Great video. To be able to tie this all together is really some Sherlock Holmes stuff. This video will end up being timeless in the history of the game. Very impressive.
That infamous missed ENG in the Dallas-Edmonton game in 2007 created the butterfly effect that allowed Chicago to win the Kane lottery as well
I think "The Butterfly Effect" should forever be renamed to "The Buddy Robinson Effect"
On behalf of the cities of Boston, Toronto, And Raleigh,
We can never and will never forgive the Pittsburgh Penguins for what they have allowed to take place the weeks and months following this game. All they had to do was beat a poverty draft lottery team, and they make the playoffs and save they're season. BUT NOPE! They really let a bottom feeder franchise take them out of playoff contention in one of the final games of the regular season.
And not only did you fail to make the postseason, but you have allowed the Florida Panthers to take your playoff spot, who would go on to... Knock out the historic record setting 65 win Boston Bruins in 7 games, Nearly sweep the first Toronto Maple Leafs team to win a playoff series since 2004, And hand Carolina their 3rd consecutive eastern conference final sweep.
This game will forever be a mark of overwhelming disappointment.
Look
This was actually a entertaining game, for both Penguins and Blackhawks
Buddy Robinson for the All Star game.
florida's first round pick owned by the habs would be 16 tops instead of 31
lol
This earned a subscribe from a Pens fan.
Except it's a regular season game, meaning it's still 1 of 82, unlike a playoff game which is 1 out of 4-7. So you could pinpoint any one of their regulation loses--and therefore a specific moment within that game--of having impact.
I fail to see what it changed for NHL hockey? While it seems to be the catalyst that spurred the Blackhawks to win the game, it didn't change anything vis-a-vis the rules, or style of play, moving forward. Not even close.
you have a very special talent for analysis...tremendous insight that i would have otherwise overlooked. thank you...
This game made the Panthers the cup champs.
Perhaps none of you knew it, but I’ve always known that Buddy Robinson was the single most important player in the modern era. This goes all the way back to the first time that I ever noticed him…like three minutes ago.
Crazy how one game can change all of hockey history. If Pittsburgh won this game as they should’ve, either the Panthers or Islanders miss the playoffs. There’s probably no way the Penguins pull off the upset against the Bruins. If the Leafs lost in the second round to the historic Bruins instead, they would not have fired Dubas rather than how they reacted by getting smoked by the eighth seeded Panthers. Lastly, who knows where Bedard ends up. Lastly, if the Panthers win that last season game, then they make the playoffs and the Devils win the division and play them while the Canes play the Rangers. Incredible
Not to mention the last time the ducks we’re supposed to have the number one pick they missed out on Crosby
Man, you are one of the best Hockey Channels out there. I love all your videos. Love from a Panthers fan.
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this plus the alex lyon tear in the last 7 games of the season causing maximum chaos
Great compilation of this domino-effect!!! At the time, I just thought that the Pens had blown their playoff hopes, but who could have forseen the multiple consequences??? Thanks for putting this all in the proper perspective!
Yes it did. In a good way though. This game cause the firing of Hextall and Burke and actually hired a component front office decision to get Kyle Dubas involved. I asked myself this question: if the Penguins made the playoffs, they would get crushed by Boston and the organization would have been okay with Hextall and that would been bad decision right now. yes, it would’ve been a good Stanley cup final between Boston and Vegas, but once again, there’s no point of keeping the incredible playoff consecutive streak alive. Go ask Red Wings fans how they feel about playoff streak in their last couple of years in the 2010’s.
as a Panthers fan, I officially now love Buddy Robinson
Very well thought out masterpiece.
Heh, like the league was ever gonna let Bedard go to Anaheim or Columbus over Chicago...
I wonder if having all those electronics in the puck has something to do with all the f ups
watching this game live after witnessing the sabres elimination loss brought a smile to my face
Best name in Hockey, without even thinking Tiger Williams comes to mind
Buddy!! Ridiculous title. But whatever do your thing click boy.
Now we've got the Patrice Bergeron retirement kicking off a Bruins rebuild, the Leafs hiding cap hits in LTIR, and goodness knows what else..
Make more videos in this format.... this is your best video and id love to see more butterfly effects. Maybe the lead up to ovi being deafted or crosby being drafted..
Love hearing that. As the off season goes on.. we will definitely get more of this.
@@hockeypsychology there was an old sports chalnnel forget the name of it but they did somthing similar if your looking for inspiration it was essentially "a moment in sports history" the beginning of of the video sets the moment up and goes over whats at stake but doesnt quite show the resolution of the "moment" then the rest of the video was the build up of storylines, trades, injuries victories losses whatevr that lead up to that moment. Then the video closes out with the "moment"
Damn, I love hockey analytics!!
Wow this is crazy. Great video
GO HAWKS!! I’m never rooting for my own team to lose ever again. Celebrated every goal all year because I couldn’t help it but actually felt pain when we won. Never again. Celebrate EVERY WIN GO CHICAGO FOR LIFE!!❤️🖤🤍
I have been a fan of this team for over 50 years, and I couldn't bring myself to root for them to lose. But, I wasn't upset when they did lose. I went into the season with the attitude that as they tried their best, I am okay with it. Most nights they did not disappoint me, even when they got their butts kicked.
I've long said that the relocation of the Nordiques shifted NHL history. Assuming no other changes, there is an absolutely 0% chance that the Habs trade Roy to their hated provincial rivals.
If Buddy didn't score, Chicago would finish last, and NOT win Bedard draft. Boston would have gone on to win the Stanley Cup and not VGK. Since he did score, FLA embarrassed Toronto, they fired Dubas, Dubas now GM of Pens, the Pens will go on to win a Stanley Cup during his tenure, Bedard will also win a Cup in Chicago down the road.
how people think that boston would somehow beat vegas even though florida didn't is funny to me
buddy lived his purpose
and montreal fans were left jumping and pulling hair,lol
The only outcome that was hard to swallow was having to watch the odious Florida Panthers go deep in the playoffs.
Naw that was awesome. It was even more awesome to watch them hoist the cup this year. GO PANTHERS!!!!!
6:09 lol you synced it so its like the dude is saying your voiceover
Florida's upset isn't the biggest in history. In 1981, 13th place Edmonton upset 3rd place Montreal - 2 years removed from a 4-year dynasty. The St. Louis Blues 2019 Stanley Cup has got to be a much bigger upset - dead last in January, then winning the the Cup against the favoured Boston Bruins.
The Leafs didn't fire Dubas, they just didn't renew just contract.
Aside from that, yhe statements are probably true, correct and accurate if Connor Bedard lives up to the projections.
Imagine if the Blackhawks tanked the game, finished last, the Penguins lose to the Bruins in round 1 and then Chicago lost the draft lottery anyway to Anaheim.... let this be a lesson, always play hard for pride and let it play out as it will.
It's crazy how 1 game has led to Chicago yet again getting a generational player.
i hate these kind of takes, its a 82 game season, you could say this about any game of the year
Exactly, each game changes one teams win to loss ratio ect. Thats the point of big games.
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interesting video, thanks for making. Glad it worked out the way it did.
I had no idea so much had come from this one game. I was just happy Chicago had won.
Watched this game on TV, I had no emotions after this loss, just dumbfounded
There is one fundamental flaw with the premise of this video. You don't seem to understand how the draft lottery works. Each team is assigned number combinations randomly, and the lower you finish, the more combinations you are awarded. Think of it like a regular lottery: the more tickets you have, the better your chances of winning.
If Chicago finished lower in the standings they simply would have had more number combinations allocated to them and it would not have made a difference in the outcome of the draft lottery.
You didn't have to make this video man :'(
Yea...no! Buddy had as much to do with changing the league...as I did! There's 82 games a season full of wins, losses, injuries and bounces. Some lucky, some unlucky!
Just like I taught my young players when coaching youth hockey, one call from a ref, one bounce lucky or not, doesn't decide games. What they do and don't do over 60 minutes or...in this case...over 82 games... Is what decides what happens. Just like in a game, it's full of chances and opportunities. Blowing a scoring chance, unforced turnovers, being lazy and not skating ur a$$ off to get back to the defensive zone....all are factors in the outcome of a game. It's never..... EVER...one play!
So no....Buddy had a good goal on a lucky bounce that had ZERO to do with Chicago winning the lottery.
The CBJ SWEEP of Tampa Bay was more impressive than Fla. beating Boston. Especially after being down 3-0 in game 1....
Well done. You and Buddy. Go hawks.
Moreover, with Pittsburgh loosing, and Florida going to the playoffs instead, it changed the lottery % of Montreal to win the Connor Bedard lottery, as apparently, Montreal arrived second by 0,3% stats result behind Chicago. So in other words, if Pittsburgh would have won this game, Bedard would have been in Montreal. And following their own list, Montreal would have chosen Pellikka as defenceman with the 15th pick. They would not have Newhook, but would have chosen Quebecois Ethan Gauthier on early 2nd round. So that goal of Robinson changed history for Montreal, as that instead of Reinbacher and Newhook, they would have Bedard, Pellikka and Gauthier. Chicago would have had Mitchkov and Reinbacher would probably be ending in Arizona, leaving Philadelphie with Leonard and so on.
Arizona lost their 1st & 2nd round picks in 2020 for giving prospects physicals outside of offial NHL combine facilities. The Blackhawks cover up a rape of a player who was then harassed by players on the team over being a victim. (Nice leadership, Toews.) However, after all that came to light, they not only kept their 1st round pick, they got the 1st overall for a generational talent. Funny how when the Hawks sucked & the scandal came out, all the Chicago fans were outraged & very boldly declared no further support for the team. Fast forward where they watch Chicago get the 1st overall pick & there's a record-setting number of tickets sold immediately after the draft lottery announcement. The NHL dropped the ball on this. I guess Arizona isn't a big enough market to skirt violations on where prospects can be screened. The league takes a stand & says, "No, you dirty Coyotes! You will play by the rules!" An original 6 team in a market that the NHL sees as a cash cow gets the, "Dammit, Chicago, that's your one warning on covering up a rape & sitting back while your players torment the victim for being a victim. If you do it a few more times, we're taking your 6th & 7th round picks in the 2030 draft away. We're serious." Bettman making the NHL look like clowns again.
First time I've ever been happy of the result of the Penguins losing as a lifelong fan.
Bruins get embarassed by Florida (Bruins would have smoked the Penguins this year sadly) Florida beats Toronto and Florida loses to the Knights for the cup. Bruins are going to be a shamble next year. Penguins dump Hextall and Burke and get Dubas. It couldnt have worked out better unless Anaheim had got Bedard instead of fuckin Chicago.
This up there when a player for the Buffalo Bills in the 1970s where a playing dropped an easy touchdown pass in the last game of the season. This put the Bills in last place where they drafted OJ Simpson the next year. OJ met Nicole in Buffalo, OJ of course didn't do it, Rob Kardashian defended OJ, and today, all from the dropped touchdown pass, the Kardashians exist and "literally" doesn't mean literally anymore.
so many penguin fans crying this year about missing the playoffs by 1 point after having the longest streak in North American sports (although in 2015 they almost missed just 2 points ahead of Boston). They must feel like they've taken their success for granted lol and don't realize the might get back in next year or in 2025 we'll see.
I never buy the idea of 23 men, collectively trying to lose games so an organization they may or may not even be playing at in future seasons can get a good draft pick. I don't think that's how these people operate at all. They go out there to try to win every game they can and let the chips fall where they may.
Now maybe the coach can be convinced by the GM to pick a scuffed lineup, but once the players hit the ice, all bets are off. Those guys go out there to win. Period. Those 23 guys picked for the lineup, don't care about Bedard. They've got their own careers to care about.
And besides, as we know now; Bedard went to the Blackhawks regardless, and even if Chicago had lost this game, who knows, maybe Bedard is a duck instead.
Fun video ... with one flaw. Buddy's goal put the Hawks in third place and they drew the lucky lottery odds. BUT, the odds wouldn't have been affected by that goal. Say they lost. That doesn't mean Anaheim might have got the third best odds. So, while the goal ended up causing Pittsburgh to miss the playoffs, the goal had nothing to do with Chicago getting Bedard. The rest though, is fun to speculate on.
LOL! I thought only the Chicago media and fans saw this as a thing.
Career journeymen D man Buddy Robinson alters the course of hockey history by scoring one of a small handful of goals of his career.
There was a collective groan from Hawks fans when that puck went in, as this was seen as hurting their chances for the first overall pick.
We were watching jealously as Anaheim lost what, 13 straight to end the season?
Little did we know that the third worst record was the golden ticket in this years lottery.
Well as a pens fan this can be good and bad. Bad cuz the playoff streak ended but good that Heckstall and Burke are gone. That was ridiculous trading a 2nd for Grandlund who did nothing is so bad. Now with Dubas idk if I like him yet or not. We’ll see. I wanna see Sid Geno and Letang compete in their later years but idk if they will or not. Signing Jarry to a huge extension seems like a huge mistake. But we’ll see. I said that the whole playoffs. Florida shouldn’t have even made the playoffs and they almost won it all.
The Devils blowing a 3-1 lead in the last few minutes but then winning their final game of the season in the 2018-19 season in overtime. If they had lost that game they would have ended up picking 5th instead of 1st and Jack Hughes would be a LA King.
if we're playing what ifs, what if pittsburgh wins this game, which makes the panthers play harder against the canes, and the panthers win that game? now pittsburgh and florida are tied in points, and the panthers hold the tie breaker and still make the playoffs. what ifs are pointless.
RIP Bruins, RIP Leafs, maybe hype for Penguins, not even giving the Panthers the time of day, and the Blackhawks are gonna be a force to be reckoned with come 2026
Pretty confident the Leafs would have choked regardless of what team they played. Boston would likely have made quick work of Pittsburgh though, so we might have had the Leafs-Bruins round two series everyone hoped for.
Connor Bedard will be picked 1st in NHL draft by Chicago and undoubtedly they gonna use him immediately and Bedard gonna have injury after which he gonna abandon hockey. End of story.
I'm as die hard Hawks fan as they come. I'm Canadian, military brat who has no hometown, but how when i was 10 i came to be a Hawks fan would be too long of a story. Why they became Stanley Cup champs, this confirms my superstition and i can't tell you why.
No one believes that Chicago getting the #1 pick was luck. A BIG market team loses Toews and Kane / magically got Bédard. The league couldn’t have it any other way.
At any time during a season you could have ref make a mistake and give up a goal leading to a loss creating a different scenario... Or you could just play better and make the playoffs anyway that's what po teams do!!!
If you have been around hockey for awhile you know that shit happens. In golf it's called the rub of the green, miss a 3 foot putt, make a 72 footer, wtf!!!!!!
This game didn’t matter. The draft lottery is a joke. Bettman decides where the number 1 pick goes. Bettman sucks. Ultimately Bettman is gonna ruin this game.
As a lifelong Pens fan, I can attest to the number of times some guy who should be selling marble countertops at Home Depot gets into the opposing crease and plays like Patrick Roy against Pittsburgh. I don't know if that happens a lot to other teams, but it happens to the Pens a lot, especially in the last few years.