This channel could just as easy just show the ejection and why, but to go this in depth....amazing. This is turing into my faviorte baseball channel. Great Job!!
@@davidrivera9743 He should not be broadcasting, even as an "analyst". It's that simple. Mispronounces names consistently, sexist, racist, and according to statistical research, he is wrong over 60% of the time in his analysis. Need more be said? Oh - not to mention that he always rates among the top 10 hated players of the past 25 years. CCS said it right at the end: "It's a 2-0 count, A-Rod".
My favorite bit of this video is the remark about 1st pitch strikes with a 2-0 count at the end. Great overall insight in video and A-Rod simply giving mind numbing commentary again
I appreciate this video, and your channel so much. Jomboy Media understands the game, and can be very funny at times but the breakdowns rarely account for what has previously happened in a game (especially this one). I watched this game and thought the rookie umpire did very well you could hear the Cubs manager bitching before they even decided to show him on camera. You deserve more credit it’s the only baseball channel I’ve come across that has credible resources and is completely unbiased. Well done!!
This ump was all over the place. 62 called strikes in the game. I like Wainwright and Davies, but their stuff isn’t that deceptive to fool batters that many times. Willson and Yadi knew they could go way outside and get strikes.
Another horseshit from the announcers. I'm 173 cm which is about 5'7" I guess. Yes, sometimes a really big catcher can obstruct your view, but you still can adjust, just by standing a but higher or moving a bit sideways. Sometimes I tell a catcher hey man, you're blocking my view. I can't call it if I don't see it. And most of them will adjust, especially the expirienced ones. They know that the ump should have a good view of zone, they are not stupid.
Damn right, I'm even shorter lol...I'm 167cm (no idea how much that is in imperial system). Absolutely agree with you and total bullshit that height makes it difficult. Like you said, you adapt. I umpire with a lot of catchers that are big and I just stand higher or move and that's it...
I work with alot of inexperienced umpires who have had shit training. Gil is spot on about there being a learning curve for young/new umpires. In fact, when a partner is struggling, and a coach tries to turn me against my partner on obvious missed calls, I simply say, "There is a learning curve for all of us coach. He's new. He'll get better." Seems to work in most situations.
getting pitches 3 inches outside called strikes definitely helps. This whole game was bad on both sides. No wonder it was 0-0 at the end of 9 with the strike zone this guy had.
A-Rod borders between being so utterly obnoxious and unintentionally hilarious. But yeah. They need to take him off the broadcast, its definitely a net negative and even when its entertaining its definitely not for the right reasons. He's just such a goober.
I have to do the same thing. A rod literally is ruining Sunday night baseball. I’ve been watching this since day one and I almost stopped watching because of him. He’s terrible and just plain stupid.
@@steviehandsome4712 ESPN has to know that he isn’t any good. He makes up stats and stories and to be quite honest he’s one of the biggest cheaters in the history of the game. It is an insult and In my opinion he is just lacking the intelligence to keep up a decent conversation. I used to look forward to watching Sunday night baseball and now I really dread it all because of one person. He brings it way down.
What I see here is a rookie umpire with command of the upper part of the zone and off the plate but consistent on the outer edge. I think you only showed one low pitch. The number one thing players want is consistency. He's too off the plate to survive if he does not tighten up the outer half. As far as A-rod goes, the roids ate part of his brain stem. One thing most umpires can say is that they played the game at some level in their lives and have that perspective. I can't think of a single player who was an umpire before being player. He has absolutely no clue about what it takes to become a professional umpire at any level.
@Chris Smith What I am getting at is this: Professional ball players spent their lives becoming professional ballplayers. They may have umpired some youth games to get some money during the summer time. Games in which they used equipment belonging to the local league. MLB umpires worked to become professional umpires after playing ball whether it was only playing through HS ball or even college ball. I played HS ball and knew I did not have the talent to go any further. I worked just as hard as A-rod when I played HS ball. He had the talent, I didn't. But I still knew and understood the game I got started umpiring in my early 30's. Too late to even be considered to become a professional. Still, I was pretty damn good at it. Who knows what would have happened if I had started straight out of HS. I worked just as hard to become proficient as an umpire than those guys in the Majors. My peers would say I was pretty successful. My point is that I am pretty sure MLB umpires have a unique outlook on the game. They've played it at some level, probably only thru HS, but they understand the player's view. The vast majority of players have never umpired with any serious intent. Like I said, it was probably for walking around money in the summertime.
I would love to see those commentators umpire behind the plate a couple of games then they come back and criticize the way the way they do. I see a couple of mis calls, not big deal who doesn’t make a mistake here and there. Good umpiring for the young rookie.
So if I’m your college ump, and I miss a pitch at the bottom in the first inning, do you want me to miss it on purpose in the name of consistency for the rest of the game or try and get it right?
That's why if you were to put together best umpiring crew at the D-1 level and assign them on a game between two bottom MLB teams, the crew would still screw up the game. Conversely, were you to grab any four umpires at the MLB level and assign them to the two top college teams in the country, there would be no problems. The same holds true for basketball--perhaps more so. "Consistent" is a subjective, vague standard. Amateur officials are obsessed with optics (what they think others see). They fear the coach may not like them. Professionals place a premium on rules, mechanics, and systems. They are self-disciplined, focused, and hold themselves to the highest standards because they want to serve the game. Granted, there are many examples of amateur umpires exhibiting these qualities, but they are the exception to the rule.
@@josephgravina9834 Which D-1 officials or which pro officials? I have spoken with quite a few of the latter (over 25), all of whom worked amateur games at one time in their life. To be clear, there are many examples of amateur officials showing courage and acting on behalf of the sport they represent. However, that is the exception to the rule. College is about the coaches. Pro is about the athletes and the sport. Harry Wendlestedt made this clear on the first day of Umpire School. Ed Rush made this clear at Coast-to-Coast Camp. Compare the number of ejections between pro and college. Compare the number of technical fouls. College coaches exert a great deal of influence on who works their games. Are there some officials who disregard that reality and do what is right for the game? Undoubtedly. Alas, the college system does not reward that.
Yeah, "be careful" about being realistic on the inherent difficulty seeing pitch locations as a diminutive (short) person, you don't want to hurt the sensitive umpires feelings by being honest.
Who cares about the average height of an american Male? He never said it was too short to be an umpire he said generally they are taller people and it can make it harder for shorter ones to see over catchers, especially taller catchers. While I agree it doesnt matter how tall you are as long as you are good at your job, and obviously you are if you are deemed good enough for a major league umpire, but it also is entirely true that it can make it harder to see over a catcher, especially a taller one. Also not a fan of Arod in anyway but theres so many reasons not to like him, and this just ain't one
Yeah I didnt like that, I thought that was really nitpicky and also putting words in Arods mouth (not a fan of arod tho btw). Arod never said 5'7" was too short to be an umpire. He said, speaking generally, it's not the profile of a major league umpire, and that its tougher to see over catchers, especially over taller catchers. What's next amusement parks are discriminating because rollercoasters have height requirements?
I’ve seen worse calls that’s for sure. He’s just got to get more consistency. As for his height....no catcher is going to block his view. He should see it even better.
correct me if I'm wrong, but in an NCAA training camp we were taught "call every borderline pitch a strike for both teams, all game..." ESPN has deteriorated in it's ability to attract. They fired all the good announcers, changed start time, "juiced" graphics, and now they shit all over umpires. And do we need "zzwoosh-swhish" fake explosion noises ever replay?
During some of the past few games the Cubs broadcasters have been talking about a guideline. The guidelines states that you have to have a mask on when you're on the field or something and if you don't have a mask on when you're arguing with an umpire that's an even bigger penalty. Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
@@HipsterDoofus100 one of the regulations is that if you don't have your mask on your fined and the money is actually donated to charity. I had thought that Ross was arguing without a mask and that was what originally caused the incident.
Well, the reason that they are picking on that high zone call. Is because he's expanding the zone on the bottom of the zone. So even if it's slight, it's expanding the zone high too. It would be, in a vacuum, ok of all these other expansions aren't happening. Imagine being a hitter, like arod, instead of being the ump
4:09 - this a bunch of BS from these announcers.... umpires squat, catchers squat. Height of the umpire has zero to do with it. Because umpires are taught, squat so that your chin is at the top of the catcher's helmet. If you are short, you do not have to squat as much. If you are taller, you have to squat more. So height has NOTHING to do with it. I am 5'8" and called ball for years with no issues.
Often seems like the managers are too eager to get thrown out. Later the Cubs almost made a big defensive mistake with nobody covering third on a bunt attempt with a runner on 2B. David Bote was looking somewhat angrily at the dugout as though he knew the signs or play was wrong, and I immediately wondered if that had anything to do with Ross' absence.
I'm not too picky about announcers for the most part. There's a few I really like but A-Rod has to be one of the worst IMO. Listening to him do national games is painful.
I really don’t like commentators ragging on a rookie umpire. Those calls weren’t even egregious. You would never hear them bag on a rookie player like that.
@Chris Smith This didn’t show his whole game here. From the pitches in the video they didn’t look that terrible. If that is the case i can understand it more but in any case you can’t have the commentators mocking a rookie umpire
@Chris Smith I heavily agree with that. they need someone like Mike Pereira for the NFL that can give insight from that perspective. I do understand why the broadcasters were on him though. I know there are really good umps out there that could really help out with analysis almost like Gil
Humans aren't assigned sex at birth. Sex is observed - before birth usually. The OBR don't require you to use the language of the trans-movement to describe females... yet.
ARod's commentary was worse than Errich Bacchus's strike zone! At least Bacchus seemed like he was willing to eat the words Ross had to say so to speak and actually had a really good upper strike zone. Criticizing the high pitches when they were correctly called and then making rude comments about Bacchus' height? I just hate ARod even more now if that's even possible...
2 things: A Rod is trash. His over analyzation has always been obnoxious and extreme. However, Discriminatory?? Talk about advantages of physical stature a persons gender. Mentioning that a shorter person is at a disadvantage to see over the catcher is about as discriminatory as saying someone who can’t jump high will be at disadvantage to plan basketball. 90% of the foundation of what makes people good athletes is their physical make up, not their gender. Great channel love your videos but making that a point was off base. Don’t promote unfounded discrimination. It dilutes and hides the harm and real discrimination that exists. Side note: those are great points about the rookie getting better. I think David Ross did his job in putting that in his head and “pointing him in the right direction” for lack of better term.
I thought that was really nitpicky and also putting words in Arods mouth (not a fan of arod tho btw). Arod never said 5'7" was too short to be an umpire. He said it's not the typical profile of an umpire, and that it may make it more difficult to make some calls, especially over taller catchers. What's next amusement parks are discriminating because rollercoasters have height requirements?
The reality is that these are all borderline calls. Having all these fancy graphics on the screen let fans at home nitpick on if a pitch is an inch outside, but the reality is if its very close to the strike zone, you cant expect it to not get called.
I like it. An umpire while not making a spectacle out of himself because nobody is there to watch them, however, should be demonstrative when calling strikes. It shows confidence in your decisions. I miss the classic umpires like Dutch Rennert and Ed Montague and Bruce Froemming. All of them were very demonstrative (and unique especially Rennert) in calling strikes behind the plate...
@@joelwisecup3306 Jim Joyce was my favorite among modern MLB umpires (1987-2016) because of his emphatic strike calls as well. Almost wish he hadn't retired in '17; lord knows MLB needs the help right now.
@Black Bear don’t know what childish insult you refer to but that was an entirely different game and Phil was behind the plate. He was at third yesterday.
@Black Bear it wasn’t meant as an insult, but I’m respectful, I can avoid it if it’s offensive to you. I thought I was obviously referring to the play at third base from yesterday and not the fair/foul roller down the line from 2-3 nights ago but apparently I didn’t make it clear enough, I’m fine. Anyway from a couple nights ago it’s hard to tell if the ball is fair or foul on replay with pitcher in the way, but on such a slow roller Phil very likely got it right.
@Black Bear I’m a soccer referee and the rule for the ball going out of play over the white line is similar to baseball. I’m known locally for not tolerating argument on a soccer field and using the formal penalties in my sport to stop it. I had a player ask me if I was out of my mind once and I did not show a yellow card. I just shrugged and said “must be, I agreed to babysit you and your buddies for 90 minutes.” I penalize disrespect, I’ve never found that disrespectful.
@Black Bear if you say so, you seem quite upset though. Please put the conversation behind you and don’t let it spoil the rest of your day, as you seem to have taken the phrase quite personally.
An unfortunate thing about announcers today is that you can tell who they are calling the game for by the way they call things. What they would call the best call ever made by an umpire if it benefited the team employing the announcer would be the biggest travesty if it benefited the other team. I don't mind knowing that you support your team but please, don't make fools of yourselves.
The difference here is, the ESPN Crew is supposed to be neutral, and I'll admit, I don't know if they were favoring either team. That being said, when you watch a Team's Broadcast, you can go into it knowing that the announcers are going to be favoring their own Team, since they aren't being paid to be neutral, but to call the game for "their Team". The Great Crews, I think, would be those that, while they do still favor their own Team, they can be, more or less, neutral with the other Team, complimenting great plays by them, and so on, even if they're, for example, cheering for the ball to fall short of a home run for the other Team, and out for a home run for "their" Team.
Perhaps in this case, but even at this level announcers still show their bias. Back to one of the only times the Seattle Mariners made the playoffs, when they were behind they were a bunch of amateurs who had no business playing in the big leagues. The only time anything half-way complimentary was said about them was when they were leading. The situation is even worse when it you listen to a team's broadcasters. I can't help but think that if their team was so absolutely perfect then why do they lose any games?
@@kendog52361 I don't mind that so much as, as I said, when what would be the greatest call ever made by an umpire when it benefited their team but is an absolute travesty when it goes against their team. I like it when the announcers for one team appreciate a good play made by the other.
I remember a game earlier this year where the Marlins got absolutely jobbed by the umpires and lost because of it, and the Mets broadcast crew, instead of celebrating the win, made it very clear they did not like that call whatsoever. I think they've earned my respect just because of how they handled that call, and to be honest, when the Marlins play the Mets, I'd rather watch their broadcast crew than my own team's broadcast crew.
Around 2500 pitches a night, give or take a few hundred depending on the number of games. The calls even out for the most part. Quit your fuckin complaining.
The comment of discrimination of hight and females is not one that would be and issue until someone brings it up for no reason as in that case. Honestly if just left alone it’s not an issue. Only becomes one when someone unnecessarily makes it an issue. Stating facts isn’t being discriminating. Honestly the first thing I’ve disliked being said here. Sorry it struck me wrong.
This umpire is scared of pitchers that have been in the league. I just watched him umpire the red Sox/Yankees game and he gave every pitch (outside and low) to Cole while squeezing the red Sox pitcher that is in his first year. Cole doesn't need any help and just because he is garret Cole doesn't mean he doesn't throw balls. It's either he is scared of pitchers or he can't see shit cause he is so short either way he should not be behind home plate
With today's technology It's not arguing, you're informing the umpire he made a mistake. It's up to the umpire to receive the useful information he's getting and try to be better.
While I'll admit the height doesn't matter to be umping the whole thing about women not being umps because of heights is really reaching and quite frankly irrelevant.
I'm going to call out a factual error. I am good friends with Erich, and he is closer to 5'10", not 5'7". He's an excellent umpire, one I've worked with many times. Chalk this up as a rough go and move on. He looked great in the Orioles/Twins game on 5/26.
I can’t stand Arod. He talks so much crap about umpires on live tv. His episode on the runners lane violation and saying the umpires are wrong and they need to move the base out? Come on man!
I just have to say, a nationally televised MLB game can't be where you learn. That's crazy. He's calling pitches a foot off the plate a strike and the response is "well, he's still learning"? If you can't get any closer than that, then we need to accelerate the automated strike zone.
And why are you making height of an umpire a gender issue? As much of a douche as A-Rod can be, he wasn't wrong to bring it up. I would think even an up at 5'10 would have an altered perspective calling balls and strikes than someone who's 6'2-6'3.
Why is it important for MLB to hire female umpires? If it is more difficult to call a game from behind home plate if you are under 5'7", why is that discriminatory rather than simple fact? I do not like the idea of a female umpire. It changes the dynamic of the game. Female umps will not be treated the same as male umps. Managers will not be as aggressive and neither will players when arguing a call. If everyone is so up in arms about women being included in men's sports, then in the instance of baseball, shouldn't Women's Softball be eliminated all together? I'm guessing that there would be more female umpires in baseball if women actually played baseball.
The NFL and NBA both have female refs. As usual, MLB is always the last major American sports league to adapt to societal change. I'm not a baseball umpire, so I don't know how a female umpire or the umpires in general would react to a player or manager chewing out a female ump over a call that she made. but I'd like to think there would be some level of respect for treating a female ump the same way you would treat a male ump. that would be equality in its truest form.
Women play Baseball and Men play Softball. Just look it up on RUclips. The WBSC is making a good job in getting these sports accessible to all. And you might not believe it, but with 166cm I do see the zone just fine and I’m being treated just like my male colleagues.
@THEStein_ Why would a woman want to umpire for MLB? Not saying she can't do as good or better job than the males currently doing it. Should men be allowed to play on their college softball team? What happens when men take over the majority of spots on the team?
those are strikes....all the ones he called..watch some real baseball..pre-questec...and that annoying dumb box on your screen..mlb today is the worst it has ever been as far as the play on the field
Terrible zone, but also MLB just shouldn’t put triple digit numbers on the umpires. It looks terrible on that sleeve. Very tacky looking. Just looks weird and goofy.
As long as it's because they are good at their job and not to pander I dont care. But if it's to virtue signal lemme know where to meet up for a beer buddy, cuz I'm right there with you.
@Black Bear apparently he is need of more AAA training. The big leagues implies you have paid you dues and are ready and competent. Adjustments ? How does he do that? Remedial work or just keep making mistakes at the highest levels.
@Black Bear same to you my friend. We can agree to disagree without insults. A player maybe at the AAAA level in the bigs, but umpires calling balls and strikes need to be more accurate. I don’t agree with Gil BTW. Those calls were terrible for both sides. Embarrassing lack of quality behind the plate last night and it probably will repeat the next time he is behind the plate.
"He will get better" I think is an unfair argument. As a team if you feel your being screwed by what you see as unfair calls are you supposed to just sit back and watch because"oh in a couple of years this guy will have a better strike zone". As unfair as it is players have the chance to struggle and bounce back because the game is about them. If an umpire cannot handle being in the major leagues there are plenty of other leagues to practice and get better.
@Joel Zand Yeah you're right....he did a perfect job because of the fact that I couldn't do better and that you have done it for 34 years..... awesome logic..... 🤡
This channel could just as easy just show the ejection and why, but to go this in depth....amazing. This is turing into my faviorte baseball channel. Great Job!!
@Black Bear Is Gil an active MiLB?
I think all the juicing has rotted A-Rod's brain.
You CAN’T argue balls and strikes, it’s that simple.
Agreed maybe A-gone should be the one run next.
what brain?
@@davidrivera9743 He should not be broadcasting, even as an "analyst". It's that simple. Mispronounces names consistently, sexist, racist, and according to statistical research, he is wrong over 60% of the time in his analysis. Need more be said? Oh - not to mention that he always rates among the top 10 hated players of the past 25 years. CCS said it right at the end: "It's a 2-0 count, A-Rod".
*There was a famous ump who was less than 5'7 back in the 1980's and loved the way how he called strikes with full body movement*
Bruce Froeming.
That was Dutch Rennert of the National League
@@far02222 Dutch...no one beat him for motions!
Dutch Rennert
@@far02222 you know how he his dinner steeeeeeak rare. Lol
My favorite bit of this video is the remark about 1st pitch strikes with a 2-0 count at the end. Great overall insight in video and A-Rod simply giving mind numbing commentary again
This young umpire can take heat. I'll give him that. Reminds me when one of the young umps got yelled at by Aaron Boone.
that young ump is brennan miller, and that was his second career mlb game. what a way to start!
I appreciate this video, and your channel so much. Jomboy Media understands the game, and can be very funny at times but the breakdowns rarely account for what has previously happened in a game (especially this one). I watched this game and thought the rookie umpire did very well you could hear the Cubs manager bitching before they even decided to show him on camera. You deserve more credit it’s the only baseball channel I’ve come across that has credible resources and is completely unbiased. Well done!!
Thanks! You're very kind!
This ump was all over the place. 62 called strikes in the game. I like Wainwright and Davies, but their stuff isn’t that deceptive to fool batters that many times. Willson and Yadi knew they could go way outside and get strikes.
You are so much smarter than broadcasters. Laughing. At least you are consistent
You CANNOT argue Balls and Strikes, it's that simple.
That's Bc
He was standing up for his team. He could give a damn if he got ejected
Lol we have a boomer here
He wasn’t arguing then, he just went to tell the umpire he was garbage.
If you can't stand up for your team then you shouldn't manage .. simple
Another horseshit from the announcers. I'm 173 cm which is about 5'7" I guess. Yes, sometimes a really big catcher can obstruct your view, but you still can adjust, just by standing a but higher or moving a bit sideways. Sometimes I tell a catcher hey man, you're blocking my view. I can't call it if I don't see it. And most of them will adjust, especially the expirienced ones. They know that the ump should have a good view of zone, they are not stupid.
100% only Rats will say stupid shit like A Fraud
Damn right, I'm even shorter lol...I'm 167cm (no idea how much that is in imperial system). Absolutely agree with you and total bullshit that height makes it difficult. Like you said, you adapt. I umpire with a lot of catchers that are big and I just stand higher or move and that's it...
It's better to watch ESPN broadcasts on mute they are so bad to listen to.
I am best friends with this umpire, he is my height, 5'10"! Not sure where they are picking their numbers from.
I work with alot of inexperienced umpires who have had shit training. Gil is spot on about there being a learning curve for young/new umpires. In fact, when a partner is struggling, and a coach tries to turn me against my partner on obvious missed calls, I simply say, "There is a learning curve for all of us coach. He's new. He'll get better." Seems to work in most situations.
That’s a terrible thing to say to a coach about a partner. You stick up for your partner, not say “he’s gonna get better”
“It’s a 2-0 count Arod” had me rofl
I really like the intellectual extrapolation, subscribed.
Fuckin fuckin fuckin...
BE BETTER!
BE BETTER!!!
Wainwright had 31 called strikes tonight which set or neared some records.
I mean Wainwright is fucking top tier as a pitcher
@@TeemoQuinton not really
Wainwright is washed up but still serviceable
getting pitches 3 inches outside called strikes definitely helps. This whole game was bad on both sides. No wonder it was 0-0 at the end of 9 with the strike zone this guy had.
I honestly have to mute games that are on ESPN and find a radio broadcast online.
A-Rod borders between being so utterly obnoxious and unintentionally hilarious. But yeah. They need to take him off the broadcast, its definitely a net negative and even when its entertaining its definitely not for the right reasons. He's just such a goober.
I have to do the same thing. A rod literally is ruining Sunday night baseball. I’ve been watching this since day one and I almost stopped watching because of him. He’s terrible and just plain stupid.
What an insult it is being subjected to Mendoza as well. How far ESPN has fallen, used to be great.
@@steviehandsome4712 ESPN has to know that he isn’t any good. He makes up stats and stories and to be quite honest he’s one of the biggest cheaters in the history of the game. It is an insult and In my opinion he is just lacking the intelligence to keep up a decent conversation. I used to look forward to watching Sunday night baseball and now I really dread it all because of one person. He brings it way down.
Anyone remember this? Back when the card were good?? It’s amazing the difference about two months can make.
What I see here is a rookie umpire with command of the upper part of the zone and off the plate but consistent on the outer edge. I think you only showed one low pitch. The number one thing players want is consistency. He's too off the plate to survive if he does not tighten up the outer half. As far as A-rod goes, the roids ate part of his brain stem. One thing most umpires can say is that they played the game at some level in their lives and have that perspective. I can't think of a single player who was an umpire before being player. He has absolutely no clue about what it takes to become a professional umpire at any level.
@Chris Smith What I am getting at is this: Professional ball players spent their lives becoming professional ballplayers. They may have umpired some youth games to get some money during the summer time. Games in which they used equipment belonging to the local league. MLB umpires worked to become professional umpires after playing ball whether it was only playing through HS ball or even college ball. I played HS ball and knew I did not have the talent to go any further. I worked just as hard as A-rod when I played HS ball. He had the talent, I didn't. But I still knew and understood the game
I got started umpiring in my early 30's. Too late to even be considered to become a professional. Still, I was pretty damn good at it. Who knows what would have happened if I had started straight out of HS. I worked just as hard to become proficient as an umpire than those guys in the Majors. My peers would say I was pretty successful.
My point is that I am pretty sure MLB umpires have a unique outlook on the game. They've played it at some level, probably only thru HS, but they understand the player's view. The vast majority of players have never umpired with any serious intent. Like I said, it was probably for walking around money in the summertime.
I love this channel. I love these vids. Thank you. A-Roid sucks so hard.
I would love to see those commentators umpire behind the plate a couple of games then they come back and criticize the way the way they do. I see a couple of mis calls, not big deal who doesn’t make a mistake here and there. Good umpiring for the young rookie.
Bacchus did make some bad calls, but he'll learn from them. He's new. Like Gil said, you have to start somewhere.
In college we never ask for Umps to have a perfect strike zone. We only ask them to be consistent.
Thats the more annoying thing is when one pitcher gets a call that may be a little off the plate but the other pitcher doesn't
So if I’m your college ump, and I miss a pitch at the bottom in the first inning, do you want me to miss it on purpose in the name of consistency for the rest of the game or try and get it right?
That's why if you were to put together best umpiring crew at the D-1 level and assign them on a game between two bottom MLB teams, the crew would still screw up the game. Conversely, were you to grab any four umpires at the MLB level and assign them to the two top college teams in the country, there would be no problems. The same holds true for basketball--perhaps more so. "Consistent" is a subjective, vague standard. Amateur officials are obsessed with optics (what they think others see). They fear the coach may not like them. Professionals place a premium on rules, mechanics, and systems. They are self-disciplined, focused, and hold themselves to the highest standards because they want to serve the game. Granted, there are many examples of amateur umpires exhibiting these qualities, but they are the exception to the rule.
@@1970volvo144S which D1 officials do you talk to that are more concerned about optics than accuracy?
@@josephgravina9834 Which D-1 officials or which pro officials? I have spoken with quite a few of the latter (over 25), all of whom worked amateur games at one time in their life. To be clear, there are many examples of amateur officials showing courage and acting on behalf of the sport they represent. However, that is the exception to the rule. College is about the coaches. Pro is about the athletes and the sport. Harry Wendlestedt made this clear on the first day of Umpire School. Ed Rush made this clear at Coast-to-Coast Camp. Compare the number of ejections between pro and college. Compare the number of technical fouls. College coaches exert a great deal of influence on who works their games. Are there some officials who disregard that reality and do what is right for the game? Undoubtedly. Alas, the college system does not reward that.
I wonder what the total was for pitches called strikes that were not over the plate. It seemed like a ton watching the game.
Yeah, "be careful" about being realistic on the inherent difficulty seeing pitch locations as a diminutive (short) person, you don't want to hurt the sensitive umpires feelings by being honest.
Hell, the average American man is 5'9." A-Rod sucks in so many ways.
hes a A FRAUD! he cheated his way to fame! he will never be a HOFer, EVER
Who cares about the average height of an american Male? He never said it was too short to be an umpire he said generally they are taller people and it can make it harder for shorter ones to see over catchers, especially taller catchers. While I agree it doesnt matter how tall you are as long as you are good at your job, and obviously you are if you are deemed good enough for a major league umpire, but it also is entirely true that it can make it harder to see over a catcher, especially a taller one. Also not a fan of Arod in anyway but theres so many reasons not to like him, and this just ain't one
Not being tall enough to do a particular job is not discrimination..
Yeah I didnt like that, I thought that was really nitpicky and also putting words in Arods mouth (not a fan of arod tho btw). Arod never said 5'7" was too short to be an umpire. He said, speaking generally, it's not the profile of a major league umpire, and that its tougher to see over catchers, especially over taller catchers. What's next amusement parks are discriminating because rollercoasters have height requirements?
Unlike some arguments I dont think the manager is yelling to the umpire about what they are ordering for dinner.
One thing we can definitely count on is A-Rod saying something completely stupid.
Too short to see over a catcher... Meanwhile, umpires squat down to get to the appropriate head height...
I’ve seen worse calls that’s for sure. He’s just got to get more consistency. As for his height....no catcher is going to block his view. He should see it even better.
This was the worst umped game in the league this season. 83.3% correct strike calls is so brutal. Better tighten it up or he’s gone soon.
The sad truth is that you're only as good as your last call!!
correct me if I'm wrong, but in an NCAA training camp we were taught "call every borderline pitch a strike for both teams, all game..." ESPN has deteriorated in it's ability to attract. They fired all the good announcers, changed start time, "juiced" graphics, and now they shit all over umpires. And do we need "zzwoosh-swhish" fake explosion noises ever replay?
During some of the past few games the Cubs broadcasters have been talking about a guideline. The guidelines states that you have to have a mask on when you're on the field or something and if you don't have a mask on when you're arguing with an umpire that's an even bigger penalty. Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
No
@@HipsterDoofus100 one of the regulations is that if you don't have your mask on your fined and the money is actually donated to charity. I had thought that Ross was arguing without a mask and that was what originally caused the incident.
@@PriceRight89 well I'm not really sure but there is a guide line that MLB put forth
www.mlb.com/news/health-and-safety-protocols-for-2021-mlb-season
A-rod was just horrible last night. I watched this game, and he was insufferable.
Time to fire A-gone?
I had no idea Rodriguez knows so much about umpires, just rattles off McClelland, Baker, Layne, Barrett, like it's nothing.
It's easy because a lot of these umps have been in the big leagues longer than Arod was.
he knows names, not the game! he juiced and took HGH ! he is a CHEAT
Well, the reason that they are picking on that high zone call. Is because he's expanding the zone on the bottom of the zone. So even if it's slight, it's expanding the zone high too. It would be, in a vacuum, ok of all these other expansions aren't happening. Imagine being a hitter, like arod, instead of being the ump
4:09 - this a bunch of BS from these announcers.... umpires squat, catchers squat. Height of the umpire has zero to do with it. Because umpires are taught, squat so that your chin is at the top of the catcher's helmet. If you are short, you do not have to squat as much. If you are taller, you have to squat more. So height has NOTHING to do with it. I am 5'8" and called ball for years with no issues.
Exactly hell I'm like 5'4" (167cm) never had problems...just stay higher and that's it
Often seems like the managers are too eager to get thrown out. Later the Cubs almost made a big defensive mistake with nobody covering third on a bunt attempt with a runner on 2B. David Bote was looking somewhat angrily at the dugout as though he knew the signs or play was wrong, and I immediately wondered if that had anything to do with Ross' absence.
Close Call Sports, just out of curiosity, what was the umpire's stats from this game?
Go to ump scorecards on Twitter, you can see the game report there
@@cameronballarino657 oh cool,
That ump was horrible. But he was consistent. Called it bad both ways
A-Rod knows nothing about umpiring.
he definitely knows how to cheat! 162 game suspension? A Fraud
I'm not too picky about announcers for the most part. There's a few I really like but A-Rod has to be one of the worst IMO. Listening to him do national games is painful.
This.
Reminds me of Leslie Nielson in naked gun
I really don’t like commentators ragging on a rookie umpire. Those calls weren’t even egregious. You would never hear them bag on a rookie player like that.
@Chris Smith This didn’t show his whole game here. From the pitches in the video they didn’t look that terrible. If that is the case i can understand it more but in any case you can’t have the commentators mocking a rookie umpire
@Chris Smith I heavily agree with that. they need someone like Mike Pereira for the NFL that can give insight from that perspective. I do understand why the broadcasters were on him though. I know there are really good umps out there that could really help out with analysis almost like Gil
ah, they are just following Lou Pinella's theory of game management
BRING BACK ERIC GREG! you want a big zone, a zone all over the place! big wode man with a zone the size of china! RIP EG
Of course, this was back in the day when the AL and NL each had their own umps, their own strike zones, mound visitations rules, etc.
He's dead, but his 400+ lb fat ass quote that 'nobody can carry my jock" comment lives on. The irony is rich and steamy.
When did they lower the age to 12 years old to be an umpire in Major League Baseball?
Dude is 30
@@kenconnelly773 ... I guess the sarcasm went right over your head? Keep trying, slugger.
Humans aren't assigned sex at birth. Sex is observed - before birth usually. The OBR don't require you to use the language of the trans-movement to describe females... yet.
I think A-Rod does crack
ARod's commentary was worse than Errich Bacchus's strike zone! At least Bacchus seemed like he was willing to eat the words Ross had to say so to speak and actually had a really good upper strike zone. Criticizing the high pitches when they were correctly called and then making rude comments about Bacchus' height? I just hate ARod even more now if that's even possible...
2 things: A Rod is trash. His over analyzation has always been obnoxious and extreme.
However, Discriminatory?? Talk about advantages of physical stature a persons gender. Mentioning that a shorter person is at a disadvantage to see over the catcher is about as discriminatory as saying someone who can’t jump high will be at disadvantage to plan basketball. 90% of the foundation of what makes people good athletes is their physical make up, not their gender. Great channel love your videos but making that a point was off base. Don’t promote unfounded discrimination. It dilutes and hides the harm and real discrimination that exists.
Side note: those are great points about the rookie getting better. I think David Ross did his job in putting that in his head and “pointing him in the right direction” for lack of better term.
I thought that was really nitpicky and also putting words in Arods mouth (not a fan of arod tho btw). Arod never said 5'7" was too short to be an umpire. He said it's not the typical profile of an umpire, and that it may make it more difficult to make some calls, especially over taller catchers. What's next amusement parks are discriminating because rollercoasters have height requirements?
The reality is that these are all borderline calls. Having all these fancy graphics on the screen let fans at home nitpick on if a pitch is an inch outside, but the reality is if its very close to the strike zone, you cant expect it to not get called.
Some of those were way off. Unhittable at that level.
That new ump is a screamer.
I love it. Everybody knows he called a strike. I do the same qt my games, I yell strike so everybody knows it was a strike.
Field mics
I like it. An umpire while not making a spectacle out of himself because nobody is there to watch them, however, should be demonstrative when calling strikes. It shows confidence in your decisions. I miss the classic umpires like Dutch Rennert and Ed Montague and Bruce Froemming. All of them were very demonstrative (and unique especially Rennert) in calling strikes behind the plate...
@@joelwisecup3306 Jim Joyce was my favorite among modern MLB umpires (1987-2016) because of his emphatic strike calls as well. Almost wish he hadn't retired in '17; lord knows MLB needs the help right now.
@@GaIeforce Jim Joyce was very good at calling strikes as well he should be added to the list for sure along with Harry Wendelstedt
This ump has a good eye. Much better than Joe West, who appears to not watch the game at all.
Ross gets elected and Bryant strikes out😂
What the hell does an umpire's height or weight have to do with their job?
Everything
This umpire is all over the place
Phil Cuzzi nearly cost us the game with that horrendous call in the seventh at third base.
@Black Bear you’re out of your mind. He was clearly out on the force and the tag after was likely in time as well just for good measure.
@Black Bear don’t know what childish insult you refer to but that was an entirely different game and Phil was behind the plate. He was at third yesterday.
@Black Bear it wasn’t meant as an insult, but I’m respectful, I can avoid it if it’s offensive to you. I thought I was obviously referring to the play at third base from yesterday and not the fair/foul roller down the line from 2-3 nights ago but apparently I didn’t make it clear enough, I’m fine. Anyway from a couple nights ago it’s hard to tell if the ball is fair or foul on replay with pitcher in the way, but on such a slow roller Phil very likely got it right.
@Black Bear I’m a soccer referee and the rule for the ball going out of play over the white line is similar to baseball.
I’m known locally for not tolerating argument on a soccer field and using the formal penalties in my sport to stop it. I had a player ask me if I was out of my mind once and I did not show a yellow card. I just shrugged and said “must be, I agreed to babysit you and your buddies for 90 minutes.” I penalize disrespect, I’ve never found that disrespectful.
@Black Bear if you say so, you seem quite upset though. Please put the conversation behind you and don’t let it spoil the rest of your day, as you seem to have taken the phrase quite personally.
An unfortunate thing about announcers today is that you can tell who they are calling the game for by the way they call things. What they would call the best call ever made by an umpire if it benefited the team employing the announcer would be the biggest travesty if it benefited the other team. I don't mind knowing that you support your team but please, don't make fools of yourselves.
This was a national broadcast
The difference here is, the ESPN Crew is supposed to be neutral, and I'll admit, I don't know if they were favoring either team. That being said, when you watch a Team's Broadcast, you can go into it knowing that the announcers are going to be favoring their own Team, since they aren't being paid to be neutral, but to call the game for "their Team". The Great Crews, I think, would be those that, while they do still favor their own Team, they can be, more or less, neutral with the other Team, complimenting great plays by them, and so on, even if they're, for example, cheering for the ball to fall short of a home run for the other Team, and out for a home run for "their" Team.
Perhaps in this case, but even at this level announcers still show their bias. Back to one of the only times the Seattle Mariners made the playoffs, when they were behind they were a bunch of amateurs who had no business playing in the big leagues. The only time anything half-way complimentary was said about them was when they were leading.
The situation is even worse when it you listen to a team's broadcasters. I can't help but think that if their team was so absolutely perfect then why do they lose any games?
@@kendog52361 I don't mind that so much as, as I said, when what would be the greatest call ever made by an umpire when it benefited their team but is an absolute travesty when it goes against their team.
I like it when the announcers for one team appreciate a good play made by the other.
I remember a game earlier this year where the Marlins got absolutely jobbed by the umpires and lost because of it, and the Mets broadcast crew, instead of celebrating the win, made it very clear they did not like that call whatsoever. I think they've earned my respect just because of how they handled that call, and to be honest, when the Marlins play the Mets, I'd rather watch their broadcast crew than my own team's broadcast crew.
Around 2500 pitches a night, give or take a few hundred depending on the number of games. The calls even out for the most part. Quit your fuckin complaining.
The comment of discrimination of hight and females is not one that would be and issue until someone brings it up for no reason as in that case. Honestly if just left alone it’s not an issue. Only becomes one when someone unnecessarily makes it an issue. Stating facts isn’t being discriminating. Honestly the first thing I’ve disliked being said here. Sorry it struck me wrong.
This umpire is scared of pitchers that have been in the league. I just watched him umpire the red Sox/Yankees game and he gave every pitch (outside and low) to Cole while squeezing the red Sox pitcher that is in his first year. Cole doesn't need any help and just because he is garret Cole doesn't mean he doesn't throw balls. It's either he is scared of pitchers or he can't see shit cause he is so short either way he should not be behind home plate
With today's technology It's not arguing, you're informing the umpire he made a mistake. It's up to the umpire to receive the useful information he's getting and try to be better.
The way these two catchers exaggerate their framing. They mind fucking the rookie ump.
While I'll admit the height doesn't matter to be umping the whole thing about women not being umps because of heights is really reaching and quite frankly irrelevant.
that box does not represent the strike zone
Your arguments about the manager discriminating against women is dumb. He's not talking about women umpiring so why are you making it about that?
I'm going to call out a factual error. I am good friends with Erich, and he is closer to 5'10", not 5'7". He's an excellent umpire, one I've worked with many times. Chalk this up as a rough go and move on. He looked great in the Orioles/Twins game on 5/26.
I can’t stand Arod. He talks so much crap about umpires on live tv. His episode on the runners lane violation and saying the umpires are wrong and they need to move the base out? Come on man!
Cubs fans are crazy.
In Miami, we all think he is a major duche bag. Since his days at Westminster Christian HS......
I just have to say, a nationally televised MLB game can't be where you learn. That's crazy. He's calling pitches a foot off the plate a strike and the response is "well, he's still learning"? If you can't get any closer than that, then we need to accelerate the automated strike zone.
Anyone else notice the Wolfman in white shades, and Mr. Sidevisor behind the plate? ruclips.net/video/ZULRzjnaVqc/видео.html
We need a robot back there
It’s coming . . .
Will.never happen
And you'll still be mad when a cross up happens or the computer shits on itself mid game. Then what?
And why are you making height of an umpire a gender issue? As much of a douche as A-Rod can be, he wasn't wrong to bring it up. I would think even an up at 5'10 would have an altered perspective calling balls and strikes than someone who's 6'2-6'3.
Commentators have ruined sports for me.
Jomboy does a good job of this imo 💯💪👍
Why is it important for MLB to hire female umpires? If it is more difficult to call a game from behind home plate if you are under 5'7", why is that discriminatory rather than simple fact?
I do not like the idea of a female umpire. It changes the dynamic of the game.
Female umps will not be treated the same as male umps. Managers will not be as aggressive and neither will players when arguing a call.
If everyone is so up in arms about women being included in men's sports, then in the instance of baseball, shouldn't Women's Softball be eliminated all together?
I'm guessing that there would be more female umpires in baseball if women actually played baseball.
The NFL and NBA both have female refs. As usual, MLB is always the last major American sports league to adapt to societal change.
I'm not a baseball umpire, so I don't know how a female umpire or the umpires in general would react to a player or manager chewing out a female ump over a call that she made. but I'd like to think there would be some level of respect for treating a female ump the same way you would treat a male ump. that would be equality in its truest form.
Women can be officials in the NFL ... But not the super tough manly man's man man sport of baseball huh? Gimme a break
Women play Baseball and Men play Softball. Just look it up on RUclips. The WBSC is making a good job in getting these sports accessible to all.
And you might not believe it, but with 166cm I do see the zone just fine and I’m being treated just like my male colleagues.
@THEStein_ Why would a woman want to umpire for MLB?
Not saying she can't do as good or better job than the males currently doing it.
Should men be allowed to play on their college softball team? What happens when men take over the majority of spots on the team?
@@thestein_8362 Congrats! But I guarantee you are not being treated exactly the same as the male umps in your league
Worst umpire ever
Ha ha Ross got kick out 😅😂🤣😆😁😄😄😃😀👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Putting it simply- A-Rod is a horrible announcer
Start bad and get better? Until then, "Don't recommend channel."
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
"OH SHUT UP DAVID!" XD
Time stamp?
Molina is just so slick. It's amazing how a good catcher can impact a game. Molina got Ross ejected. Hahah.
those are strikes....all the ones he called..watch some real baseball..pre-questec...and that annoying dumb box on your screen..mlb today is the worst it has ever been as far as the play on the field
Arod is awful on ESPN. Can’t stand him.
Terrible job, Arod is right!
These managers more worried about their mask than anything. Talk about being controlled.
ARod should just go back where ever he came from. Back to taking illegal steroids. Cheater
Terrible zone, but also MLB just shouldn’t put triple digit numbers on the umpires. It looks terrible on that sleeve. Very tacky looking. Just looks weird and goofy.
A-rod has no business in the broadcast booth. His commentary is just plain horrible and quite frankly just stupid.
Cubs managers should be ejected just for being Cubs managers
Cubs won the series on the road.
When I see a woman behind the plate, I'm done with baseball.
Baseball won’t miss you.
Agreed, will.never happen, unless they do it for views.
Wow. Sexist much?
As long as it's because they are good at their job and not to pander I dont care. But if it's to virtue signal lemme know where to meet up for a beer buddy, cuz I'm right there with you.
There's 2 sore winners. Both of them needs to start struggling. Cubs and royals.
Umpires at this level should be able to call balls and strikes before their major league debut. This guy is the next Angel Hernandez.
@Black Bear ....he also missed that this is NOT his first game .....
@Black Bear apparently he is need of more AAA training. The big leagues implies you have paid you dues and are ready and competent. Adjustments ? How does he do that? Remedial work or just keep making mistakes at the highest levels.
@Black Bear same to you my friend. We can agree to disagree without insults. A player maybe at the AAAA level in the bigs, but umpires calling balls and strikes need to be more accurate. I don’t agree with Gil BTW. Those calls were terrible for both sides. Embarrassing lack of quality behind the plate last night and it probably will repeat the next time he is behind the plate.
@Black Bear Arod is an idiot on that we can both agree!
"He will get better" I think is an unfair argument. As a team if you feel your being screwed by what you see as unfair calls are you supposed to just sit back and watch because"oh in a couple of years this guy will have a better strike zone". As unfair as it is players have the chance to struggle and bounce back because the game is about them. If an umpire cannot handle being in the major leagues there are plenty of other leagues to practice and get better.
Miserable strike zone.
I actually do. He was inconsistent most of the night, I thought.
@@natemarroquin he was fine. Well done young man!
@Joel Zand Watching the whole game, it was pretty inconsistent. However as mentioned in the video, you get better from these moments.
@Joel Zand Yeah you're right....he did a perfect job because of the fact that I couldn't do better and that you have done it for 34 years..... awesome logic..... 🤡
Announcers are the worst. Pretty much no matter what