5 Things you should NEVER do on Zenyatta
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Zen is a litmus test for playing any other character in the game. The barebones kit forces you to work your mechanics, positioning, awareness, and ult tracking more diligently than any other hero. If you can climb on zen, you can apply everything you learned to other heroes.
Ehh I respectively disagree i’m a one trick zen player in GM and feel as though his playstyle is too unique to be able to transfer onto every other hero in the game. If this was true i feel like i wouldnt be stuck in diamond on dps and tank.
@os3688 at a fundamental level they are right..
Zenyattas doesn't really have any bad matchups, he's just as much a threat to squishys as they are to him.. (aruguably he's the bigger threat)..
It comes down to player skill..
@os3688 well that's just cause your probably just not good enough on those roles support is way different then tank and support notice how he said you can apply everything on zen everywhere else which is why you're stuck in those ranks the things he's talking about are basic stuff that you can do on every character those alone aren't gonna make uou rank up you have to get better with your character and understanding of the dps role or tank role
This video is an example of what you can get for ANY hero on Awkward’s Rank Up Academy. Like an Unranked to GM except condensed into
I feel this way about Ana, honestly
Thanks awkward. I was actually hoping for a some more zenyatta educational content recently
I mean his unranked to GM video on zen is gold
@@eresoup7229is it still effective even after his nerfs?
@@kawxhn bruh the nerfs dont change the essential playstyle, supplement the unranked to gm with this video and youre good
@@kawxhnDefinitely. The nerfs mostly just weeded out the bad zen players that just spammed discord on a tank instantly. Now you just wait for the tank to move up a little and apply it. Not much different.
"the hard matchups is where most of the learning progress is" this is a very good lesson that applies to everything. Thanks for the help awkward.
got from diamond to gm2 in one season following your advice. Thanks isn’t enough - you are the Iris Zen is talking about
huh? This comment was made in the same hour the video was made and you got to gm from diamond that quickly?
@@eftscreenshotter8817that's not the first educational content awkward as made
@@jyhmz No need for the rude remark (that is now non-existent because they edited their comment,) I was just confused.
@@eftscreenshotter8817 I mean your question was kinda dumb but ok my bad
@@eftscreenshotter8817 not that video, the unranked to gm on Zen he has uploaded before. There he is applying the same 5 thinks there
when i was climbing from diamond to masters, zen was my go-to. i always struggled with the last tip bc my teammates would always flame me for using it selfishly LOL
It's a weird one. Definitely less advisable in OW1 because the enemy team likely has one more aggressive ult and a single pick isn't a huge deal in exchange for popping transcendence to escape. But in OW2 this could win a team fight. Depends I guess if it guarantees a payload checkpoint or an objective capture.
It completely depends really. Zen ult can be used to counter AoE or damage over time abilities and ults best, and you’d get much more value out of it by denying any value out of something like Zarya grav then just using it on yourself. However if you notice you are a prime target or key member of your team making a big enough impact that you are being picked on specifically, its not a bad idea to pop it for self-preservation so you keep up the pressure on the enemy team and deny them of an elim that could possibly win them the next teamfight.
I’m glad I already follow basically everything in this vid, however I do want to practice using my ult more proactively to save my team since I often do it a moment too late to really come in clutch.
I simply do not listen to my team when they try to tell me how to play MY character
Nah, by the time I get my Ult, I've already been flamed for a while for even picking Zen. So what's a little more flaming for using my ult selfishly? 😅
another thing that i've noticed allows Zen to be really sneaky is that he is the only hero who does not have footsteps, meaning it is impossible to hear him coming unless he is talking. very useful.
Just recently picked up zen, been finding him extremely fun to play. And I love beating my dps and tank in kills at the end of the game. The tip on the ult usage is gonna help me a lot, but I would like to hopefully see a vid on the future displaying the best positioning spots for zen on each map, and where he should position himself within a team.
Think of positioning like a set of guidelines, theres not a best position on each map for any hero. Sure, there may be some sneaky widow spots on some maps, but on almost every other hero that doesn't matter. Positioning is dynamic. The rule of thumb is: where can you maximize the damage you deal to the enemy, while minimizing the damage that the enemy can deal to you at the same time?
@@J.R.Swish1True, but showing some generally good positioning spots and explaining why they are good can go a long way in helping people understand positioning.
Awkward sees positioning as a relative thing. You walk forward when the enemy backs up and vice versa while using cover. Although there are strong sight lines and high grounds for zen on most maps, they aren’t good positions if you can’t do damage, they rotate you out of the fight while it’s happening, or you are too close to the enemy. It’s also going to change based on enemy comp. It’s dangerous to think about positioning as static.
Best positioning is learned by studying the maps and truly memorizing the details. Map mastery is almost as important as Hero mastery. Custom maps is a great way of exploring all of the details. I can be weak with a hero and still survive by knowing the map better than my opponent.
@@markbo3251it is way too dynamic to say though. Being safe and in position against a team with no vertical mobility is different than a team with it. Being in position is completely different against cree (deny movement abilities), mei (deny basic movement and los in a direction), bastion (shit ton of burst damage), genji (vertical mobility), and widow (high burst over a longe range). On just the same map with just the dps changing, the safe positions change significantly. When you factor in things like lucio speed or a full charge zarya, it keeps getting more difficult.
The basic rule is, can the enemies team punish me based off their cooldowns and resources? Am in the optimal spot to take advantage of mine? (your weapon, abilities, healers, etc.)
The reason why people always say the basic rule is if you can live a random high noon or dva bomb, is to get into the mentality of thinking of the enemies capabilities, rather than just the highest point, farthest point, or closest to obj
Another thing I want to say about number 4 is the left clicks make zen move his head hitbox very quickly. When he charges right click, he’s very very easy to hit headshots on.
I’m a masters 2 widow main and I struggle with hitting zen heads if he’s consistently putting pressure on me. A lot of people in this rank don’t play zen correctly, though.
Hmmm good to know
One thing about Zenyatta is every time you respawn as him, he gives advice/encouragement and I love that about him.
Since I started watching Awkward videos, specially the U2GM's, I feel like I'm playing better than never. I always remeber what he says in the videos, and keep repeating all the stuff in my head while I'm playing. Thank you sooo much Awkward, hope you continue making your excellent content for a while.
I find myself using right clicks more against someone that I discorded but they took cover to lose the discord and are coming back. That 240 burst does A LOT more damage in a short period of time. Left clicks do more damage over a longer period of time. Right clicks are also amazing against snipers like widow, Hanzo, and Ashe because of their movement speed penalty, and you only have to peek for a split second. Trying to kill snipers with left clicks will get you killed most of the time.
bro is running that donut media music
Thx, man ! Pretty insightful as always! Hope you keep em coming
this newer production quality is so underrated this guy giving pro tips with pro videos what a god
I find the crazy loud charge sound on the right click to be one of the biggest disadvantages of that ability. Everyone always turns to look at you when they hear it charging up from across the map.
Awesome video !! The struggle of a main Zen player.. the dps that has less damage than you saying that you need to do more healing ! To stop doing dps and focus on healing lol !!! I pass from bronze to plat with zen over 2 seasons, learning from you and Paz, and still learning each day
Thank you making awesome content! I would love to see even more videos on each champ just like this.
Man you are the reason I enjoy this game. Before I was stuck in gold, not understanding any fundamentals of the game, then I found u and Im now in masters on Zen. Appriciate everything you do for us ❤❤
Love this format and editing! Also some super helpful tips I’ve never thought about actually 😅 👍
love this format for you
nice work
thank for the vidéo dude , i'm a zen main and lately i been playing a lot of ana and since i watched your stream i can feel my gameplay improved , i do throw sometime but at least i don't blame my team cause i'm still learning how to get better and this zen tips will def help me even more . keep the good work !
I love this kind of format. Keep it up man!
I've been climbing a lot on Zen lately but the one thing I am struggling with is dealing with sombra especially when she starts spawn camping you. Its hard to play around cover 100% of the time when trying to walk back to your team from spawn and she waits until you just get out of cover range before nuking you. Even worst when the enemy team dives with 2 or 3 people at once and you get no peal. Still if they dont heavy focus you then Zen can bring insane amounts of value and really start carrying games with his damage.
I'm not coach or smth,but I would say, don't change hero when u get spawncamp or just getting F***,if u have problem,staying alive vs Sombra/Genji/Tracer...try to play ,,boring" game next to your support,so he can help u,and u can help him. It would also be good playing,or looking on some Sombra/Tracer/Genji guide. I would say playing them and understand how they need to be played to succeed is the best option,or u can go watch replay,and see where the Sombra was hiding,how she move around map...and with time u get third eye especially with zen, and u go,and say for yourself:
ok if I was Sombra,where I wanna fight Zen?
Where I be waiting to engage the ,,weakling ".
And sometimes,I become paranoid and shoot every corner,or room where I expect Sombra to be. Also use audio that u hear. Is Sombra in middle of the fight,or she is getting to spawncamp me? If u can't hear any of those sign's ,just use VC and say ,,Hey,did u see the Sombra?" Or just say if one of your teammate is near u ,just say to him to wait for u,and go with him.
If enemy team is diving u with two or three people,u gonna have a hard time,no advice here,meaby just to stay alive as long as u can. Because those two or three people are not in ,,main" fight (idk how to call it),so your team is 4v2/3. And sometimes the games are just for trading backlines,and which backline survive longer ,rest of the team can come back and help them,or do kill trade...
Pausing at the 1 min mark, GREAT production value and storytelling. Excited to learn. Cheers.
Thanks awkward for the Zenyatta content. Zenyatta is underrated. He can melt any 200HP character 1v1 but people don't like playing him because his kit is not fancy enough.
Love this kind of content. Really liked the widowmaker counterplay video too. Hope to see more of this in the future!❤
Thanks Awkward! From when I started watching your videos almost a year ago, I improved a lot. The knowledge that you transfered to me made me finally hit top200 with zen this season! I couldn't never say enough thank you!
I am glad to say that I already knew some of those things (from you of course!) but it's good to have a summary in one place. Great video, as usual!
Super high quality vid with invaluable info. Big fan 👊
Since watching your videos a week ago, mainly unrated to GM on Ana and Bap, I went from plat to masters in about a week and a half. You helped me realize that healbotting is not the right way to win, and that I need to take the games into my own hands and contribute. Thank you for helping me realize that and have a better mindset
The quality of the editing on this video was excellent. Thank you!
excellent editing. useful tips as well, thanks 👍
I literally JUST picked up Zen and now Awkward is making a guide?
Now THIS is a great day 😎😎
“Your healing is high and you lose games. My healing is low and I win all the games”
- a Rank 1 legend
Of course the tips are great they always are, but I really like how you have been stepping up the content recently its so much more enjoyable to watch!
Good shit bro, definitely my favorite content creator
Starting using zen a while back, now he’s one of my favorites and I win most the time when I use him. I learned how to use natural cover using him because I had too, and that helps out in the long run for other heroes too
Thank you. Absolutely look forward to all your videos.
My man just dropped this video from heaven when i decided to main zen this season
Thx for the tip on being patient with discord. I started using this and instantly went 5-0 with a ton of damage and quite some heals
This video was unexpected but made my day, I love playing Zen and I love how u teach to play him
love the content keep it up awkward. ❤
Awesome to see zen content, it's heartwarming to see you encourage players to get good with zen
Thank you sir.
Also hope your family is safe during all this chaos 🤙🏽
Thank you for stating cover and utilizing the discord/harmony orbs strategically. In higher ranks, I am finding people only damaging and not healing the DPS ever; or just standing in line of fire. Good tips
I watched your first unranked to GM on Zen and it he quickly became myt first real main in overwatch2, I made it from bronze to diamond 5 in a couple weeks after watching your video and I hope to climb to top 500 someday. We gotta represent for Zen!
How did you know I was hoping you’d put more zen content out. Literally the only support I like
Zenyatta is my absolute favorite support. Got to diamond with him before I stopped playing OW. The simplicity of his kit really forces you to focus on and appreciate the mechanics and game sense required to play properly
i started playing ow2 a month ago, and i just learn a lot from ur videos, love u so much from argentina💘
best zen educational vid I've ever seen, agree with everything said
Great Video! This is exactly the video I needed to take my zen to the next level!
More content like this! Love your tips
Just started my zen journey I appreciate this awkward 😫
Thx for the Zen tips!! I shall improve my Zen and make it to Masters!!!
I actually love and care for this guy, thanks for all your videos bro.
Awkward videos are always so well done dude I swear
Was waiting for this, ty for the tips and Zen u2gm, got to masters 3 with that
Thank you so much for this, I've been wondering why I dotn perform as well with Zen and I make 4 out of 5 of these mistakes with him and I can't wait to improve and get better as him
Awesome video straight to the point thanks Awkward
I heard from the Chinese circle regarding Zenyata is that if you can't find picks as him, you should switch (similar for hanzo and widow). Idea is that zen has so much less utility compared to other supports, so if your damage output isn't making a difference (getting picks), you are putting your team on a disavantage by staying on zen. Not sure what you think about that. I think it makes a decent bit of sense but often I find myself being too aggresive looking for right click assassinations and missing out on left click damage.
How much you simplify characters is awesome. Simple but not easy.
It's a good thing seeing this video pop up, I reached GM last week as a (mostly) Zen one trick, been playing him since Ow 1, got to nearly 250 hours on the hero and it's still by far my favorite hero in the entire game. Granted, I'm not top 500, but I do think I know my fair share about Zen at this point, I'm at least kinda glad I don't do anything you mentioned on the video, but some things are so true it hurts, some Zens here and there are afraid to go for kills, stay in the backline all the time, they are afraid to use transcendence without a hard commit of ults from the other side which oftens results in a team wipe, people don't value enough that it's better to just pop transcendence and live than die and lose the fight because it became 4v5, staying alive as much as possible is a top priority with Zen (or with any character tbh) as well.
The nerf is annoying but honestly, I love the extra 25 hp they gave Zen, the best thing as Zen is how everyone thinks you're a free target and tries to dive you, many people don't realize how much damage Zen can throw at your face very fast, and to this day, so many people forget discord orb gives you a pseudo wall hack and don't play around it, which makes some 1v1s really easy.
Also remember guys, if Zen wasn't made to flank, he would have footsteps lmao
I gotta say, the quality of the latest videos are great!
I just started playing zen.
I have about 8 hrs in and am initiate level.
I decided to do placements for ranked using only zen as I've been having a lot of fun on him and I made gold 1. I've never played comp before and I'm super new to zen.
I used to main tank and played mostly wrecking ball and roadhog.
I've come to love playing zen and I am glad I found your vids
PC?
I will help you climb, if you're interested.
Ugh. You are such an underrated teacher. I’ve had a lot of people try to convince me that you’re wrong, but it was thanks to you I almost made it to diamond as Moira… I deranked because I listened to everybody who probably doesn’t have the credentials to comment after several games of people complaining about my gameplay. I even went on winstreaks 😭 Confidence is really key for this game and you give it… just need to remember not to listen to anyone else unless it’s helpful.
Thanks awkward! I really want to see you unranked to gm on Ashe, that’s the character I play and I want to see where I can improve
hi awkward, appreciate the great tips. bit of audio feedback though, your mic could use an EQ to filter out the low frequencies
Completley unmatched in the OW education community. Thank you for all your hard work!
dude seriously i love your stuff.....zen is my top 3 for sure.
Damage, damage, damage!
Dude, I'm going to tell you, I don't play this game even 1 hour a day most of the time, but I'm just following your tips and your content. I just got Grandmaster 3 and I'm still learning, thanks from Brazil
seeing this video made me realize i dont almost make mistakes as zen. saving the ult for shatters/freeze/blossom/blade is my prioroty as soon as i see it tho. also the melee does almost the same damage as a bodyshot, so sometimes spamming melees is the way to go upclose
Thanks you so much for your videos man!
Damn, the first advice hit me hard. I used to think my mechanics were so bad and that why I lost a lot, which made me afraid to play ranked, but now I think I'll probably go all into ranked.
Zenyatta is very fun to play. I only play zen, as a support. 25+ hp is huge. But I still think BZ should revert discord orbit tracking time to 3s. Considering the disadventage of 7s cooling time, 1.5s tracking time is just too easy to be avoid.
Great video as always🙏
TLDR: tranc into the backline to surprise the enemy if you dont need it to save your team and they are alone.
one thing that you can do with zen also with tranc as someone who was gm last season playing mostly zen. If you tranc to save someone but there is no threat of danger sometimes if you see someone alone, you can just use the remaining transcendence to run into the backline and surprise them and get picks from there, this could get you some picks and positioning that forces the enemy to look at you in retreat or let you kill them from behind while your team is in the front. this is situational and have to read it right but when done right you can win games because of it. For example, im playing junkertown first point and its last fight I tranc to save my teamates from dying, and their widow is free in the backline and so when there was no treat to my team for dying i used the last seconds of tranc to go on to the widow and killed her and their ana later and we won the fight because of it.
Everytime I feel discouraged to play Overwatch I just watch a video from Awkward and my motivation goes up faster than a launching rocket
I'm top 500 on console and I only play Zen after watching some of your original Zen vids. He's so fun
Thank u Awkward. I've been playing zenny recently because of your ur2gm on the character
I got top 500 on Zen as a Brig main thanks to your videos. Zen just keeps being the hero I stop playing thinking he isnt viable, drop rank, main him again and climb back up. Maining Zen and Brig together is really fun and dynamic and all the things you pointed out in the video are good habits to get and really are the difference I notice between when I'm Masters and when Im back in GM.
I would love to know tips on brig from a Zen main
So just a helpful tip based on number 4 - try imagine your full charge shot is similar to a hogs hook / Most hog players will prediction hook to see if they can literally grasp value out of fin air - * so using a zen charge shot like a sniper trying to get a 1 shot can flip games if u hit the shot / 1 last tip if u getting chance in let's say a hall way you can do a 180 charge 5 orbs at a door way if it hits cool u could kill or they back off but if it doesn't hit it buys you time as - not a lot of people are going to risk running face first into 5 orbs
Awkward really makes the best videos
I like how you mentioned people will blame their mechanics when they’re just too far away. Very positive instead of just saying “bad aim lol”.
@projectzeeno did a great job editing this one. Great tips
Appreciate it 🔥
i watched the full U2GM video on zenyatta, then this one, and after listening to the discord nerf tips, i started winning games again, and i decided to try out ranked.
5-0. i had 7k - 10k healing on zen. i got POTG twice.
and in the end, i just got the same rank. i was silver 5, i got 5-0, and got silver 5 again.
Thanks for the tips
been my fav support ever since i started, smth about throwing balls at people just feels right
Always your videos are top tier
Such a good video ❤️
learning zen helped me learn all the fundamentals of overwatch and carry that knowledge to other characters.
Just want to say once again that your advice applies to other hero shooters and I’ve gone from S in Splatoon to S+ thanks a lot for your devotion to making other people better instead of just keeping your secrets to yourself. It’s better to be a teacher than a master and I respect you a lot for it
I finished at about #10k when the season ended last week and I’m hoping to keep learning from you to get the top 3k badge this season and hopefully someday top 500 ❤🥹
Number 2 is the one I struggle with the most. I like playing hanzo the most yet I cannot play him because I don't know how to take covers properly. Would appreciate tips and tricks to improve it. Also looking out for a hanzo unranked to gm in the future. GGs
Ever since your unranked to GM on Zen I have been an avid Zenyatta enjoyer. I've gotten from hardstuck plat to low masters with your advice :)
Always the best advice
I feel like there are a lot of decent supports in plat, Diamond and Masters, but they don’t take any risks to set their team up for success. Landing a 5 man anti from a flank or off angle, gets their rein to turn around and let’s your rein shatter. It may result in your death but a won teamfight.
So I played at least 10 hours on almost every character when I started playing this game just to get an understanding of everyone , and these videos are cool to me. Cause once u start to play a character enough these thing you’d think would be second nature and kinda seem like common sense.
Personally i like this format way more than the u2gm videos, great editing
im doing the distance thing because I thought projectiles are stronger at long range as they don’t have falloffdmg lmao
recently picked zen on a wim. have been going hog wild ever since
I hit t500 after watching your videos! started watching when i was hardstuck plat for years